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Anyone got this game yet?
I am having a blast with itThe reviewers are full of shit as usual, I got used to the controls in less than five minutes, and I haven't played Splatoon
>>335132770
I ordered mine yesterday, will be getting by next week. This will be probably GOTY 2016 for me since I have nothing else in my wishlist and Zelda will be certainly delayed.
I couldn't give less of a shit about the controls, the game itself looks poorly designed.Venom is a tiny space rock, Venom is a teleportation portal, and Metal Andross is fought in chickenshit mode
>>335132770
The game will probably sell well regardless of reviews.Because what else are Wii U owners going to buy?
>I got used to the controls in less than 5 minutea
And that's how I know you're full of shit, haven't playes the game, and you're probably just shilling.
>>335132770
I think reviewers tried to play by putting the pad in front of them and see the game trought it.
>>335133434
the thing is, he's not the only one to say that. Lots of comments on some reviews and forums said controls are damn easy to master if you're not a complete retard.
>>335133912
They're all shilling then
Nintendo can afford it
>>335134073
Everyone's shilling. You're shilling for Sony and I'm shilling for Nintendo and we're all shilling for 4chan. Except the people who are from reddit, they're shilling reddit.
Fuck off, shill.
Can you turn off the motion controls? I've heard lots of people act like you can't but Giant Bomb's review said you can except for some random spots like hacking or whatever.
I just got done playing a bit of Star Fox Guard, it's pretty fun. It can get hectic as fuck too.
The controls of SFZ are genius once you get used to them. Having the loop de loop and turn around mapped to actual buttons really help, and when used properly maneuvering is a cinch.
Also having the tilt/barrelroll/boost/brake all mapped to the right stick feels natural as fuck, especially when looking through the game pad. This makes the dog fights fun as fuck.
The co-op is a good time as well, but you'd better have a competent pilot.
>>335134505
Weren't those always buttons?
>Lock on to an enemy
>wonder why the aim squares are gone
>its only on the cockpit view now
Why
>>335134745
It was always a boost + up or break + up.
Now all you gotta do is hit one button.
>>335134962
Oh right.
>>335133315
>Because what else are Wii U owners going to buy?
What else are they going to buy? Heh
>Definitive versions of Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Bayonetta, Re: Revelations, Tekken 5, Skylanders, Mass Effect 3 and Rayman.
>Massive hits like Minecraft, Assassins Creed, Splinter Cell and Call of Duty with offscreen gamepad support unseen on any other console.
>New Super Mario Bros U.
>Just Dance (not my cup of tea but it looks fun especially on Wii U)
>Super Mario 3D World, Dong Freeze, and Pikmin 3 are a steal at $20.
>Bayonetta 2 (game of the year 2014)
>Wonderful 101
>Endless 3rd party support in the form of the Lego games
>Skylanders
>Amiibo functionality makes DLC more fair than it's ever been
>Monster Hunter 3
>Lost Reavers
>Devils Third
>Super Mario Maker
>Mario Kart 8
>Definitive version of Super Smash Bros. For Wii U
>Nano Assault Neo
>Fast Racing Neo
>Literally hundreds of Nindies to choose from!
>Cult classic titles like Metroid: Other M, Star Fox Command, and Donkey Kong 64 all available with a click of the button.
>The only console you can experience My Nintendo.
>The ability to stream whatever you want through the Internet Browser using Plex.
>Hundreds of control types to fit any play style.
>The ability to select burn in reduction
Nintendo owners sure are "suffering" with all these options.
>>335135148
>Amiibo functionality makes DLC more fair than it's ever been
Game looks cool, the star fox I wanted since 64, but how is the gyro? Work well? Do I have to twist and turn in my seat like a spaz?
>>335135148
He's talking about new games senpai
>>335135296
It just worksafter you get adjusted to it, an hour max
I'll admit that I did find myself moving along with the game pad when I got really into it, shits just immersive brah
But you don't have to move it around a whole lot, minor movements will do. You can recenter the reticle anytime on the fly.
My copy's supposed to come in today. I feel like I might have spoiled myself too much by watching so many videos showing off the game. At the very least I haven't watched anything regarding the final level/boss
>>335132770
I can't believe people were complaining about the motion controls
FFS you can literally play it as Star Fox 64 by holding the pad relatively still
I like what little I played of it this morning before I had to head to work, though I'm a little concerned about the lack of extra paths. I unlocked the walker and went back to Corneria to go right at the fork but doing so and saving Bill didn't seem to have any effect on the boss fight or the path afterwards.
I could've sworn I'd seen that Corneria has a boss on the water so there must be a third path or something
3
HOURS
>>335137382
You gotta play through the levels they give you first, then portals will show up on the map eventually, that's when you can access the different paths.
After you beat it once, Arcade mode unlocks and that plays more like SF64 in terms of branching paths.
>>335138110
Makes sense, have to do one playthrough with fake Andross before you can start teleporting around and shit
>>335135148
>Lost Reavers
>buying a F2P game
>>335132770
Treehouse please go.
>>335137509
3 amazing hours if you are lucky to not die even once and then indepth playthrough where you actuall care about hitting things and gathering secrets and unlock rest 1/3 of missions
>>335137509
length of this type of game doesn't matter, it's the replayability you get out of it.
>>335133434
Nah, the controls are piss easy to get accustomed to. Especially with the arwing, hell, having motion controls set only to when you press fire is essentially classic star Fox
>>335134271
For the gyro wing and walker no. Arwing you can disable them to an extent so it only uses them when you press ZR the fire button.
So let me get this straight:
The reward for getting all the medals on all the stages isNOTHING.
>>335137509
That video has blatantly dishonest. No one knows how long it will take to 100%. Stop believing everything you read on /v/ like an idiot.
>>335139139
And there is no alternative "true ending", where andross reveals his "true form" either?
>>335135304
why would someone only talk about new games?
most old games are better than most new games. and there are only, at most, 5 new games at a time.
this isn't a "news" site. It's a video game site.
>>335135148
>Being this madbutt
Jesus, he's talking about new games anon
Also you're not helping WiiUfags with that comment at all
>>335139176
Yeah, there's no way that wasn't a rehearsed run.
>>335132770
>The reviewers are full of shit as usual, I got used to the controls in less than five minutes, and I haven't played Splatoon
didn't one site throw a tantrum and refuse to review the game because the game was "unplayable"? Kek. Just how much of a tool do you have to be to do that
>>335139139
The satisfaction of a job well done. And Miiverse bragging rights, I guess.
>>335139730
I guess that's what happens when someone is used to having their hand held throughout every single game they've played and cannot comprehend the phrase "git gud".
>>335139730
Yup, that was Polygon, not surprisingly.
>>335139690
No, I mean the player did not play through all level permutations and didn't get all the medals. I think I'm missing something but I can't remember. He didn't touch arcade mode either but I don't know much about that one.
Anyways it was not 100%, just claimed.
>>335139897
So this game has less shit than the game that it's imitating.
No Expert Mode with aviators. No multiplayer. No multiplayer with unlockable tanks and bazookas.
I bet they don't even change the fucking title screen when you get the medals.
>>335139730
>That gamexplain discussion where they tear that guy a new asshole.
They weren't exactly blown away by the game either, but at least they called out the bullshit reviews where people couldn't even finish a 3-4 game with the month of review time they had.
I got the game today and its pretty fucking good. Just finished my first run. I'd definitely say its the best game in the series since 64.
I don't even think the controls are that bad to be honest. I had the same experience with Kid icarus. Everyone said that game had bad controls but I found them fine.
My copy should've come today but I'll probably get it early next week. Fairly excited since but I really don't have any expectations.
>>335140064
It's a reboot, not a 1:1 remake youconcerned fan.
>>335140313
It should have more content than a game made in the same style from 1997.
>>335133434
The controls are easy if you're not retarded. I just got the game 10 mins ago.
>>335140394
I think if you actually played the game, you wouldn't be disappointed.
>>335140145
Was that the review or the one with completionist?
>>335135790
>At the very least I haven't watched anything regarding the final level/boss
You might as well save yourself the disappointment.
>>335133315
uh....tv subscription services?
>>335140246
A lot of games that get flack for unorthodox control schemes tend to become my GOTY or even all-time favorites. Kid Icarus Uprising, The World Ends With You, Wonderful 101,Skyward Sword.
I'm really hoping Star Fox Zero is like that as well, but I am a little concerned about the sparse content. I understand you gotta replay stages for new paths and gold medals, but there's no denying that there's a lack of content compared to previous titles. Even a half-assed online dogfighting mode would have encouraged people to master the controls and play it more.
>>335140585
Oh I will. I'm not going to buy it though. This is an obvious rental.
I'm just horribly disappointed and somewhat alarmed by this regression.
>>335138731
SIXTY DOLLARUS
is there a demo? i'd like to try it but i don't know if i can justify the purchase
>>335140835
For 60 dollars, you're also getting Star Fox Guard, which amounts to quite a bit more than 3 HOURS.
I got the game 4 days early and fucking hated it.
Guard is fun as hell though. needs a fleshed out portable sequel.
It's not hard to get used to the controls but that doesn't mean they aren't ass. Anyone with half a brain would know something is up when there's a dedicated re-calibration button present, shit is annoying just like Skyward Sword was.
>>335132770
The controls take literally an hour to master and I've never played a rail shooter before.
>>335141453
>Anyone with half a brain would know something is up when there's a dedicated re-calibration button present
The "thing" being the existence of motion controls, because having motion controls without a re-calibrate button is fucking retarded
The controls are piss-easy to learn and allow for much more variety in what happens on screen because your reticle isn't tied to your position on-screen.
>>335140835
Because the game comes with another game, which is Guard.
Without Guard, the price goes down to 50 or 40.
>>335140774
>there's a lack of content compared to previous titles
Not really, I'd say its no shorter than 64.
Amazon sent me two copies instead of one, who wants it?
It's PAL
>>335141657
If your controls are so busted they need a dedicated button to fix them, the game is shit plain and simple.
>>335141774
100%ing 64 would take at least 5 or 6 runs and probably take about 7 hours, and you unlock shit for doing it.
Zero was 3 and a half hours and you get nothing.
>>335134962
You can also do the classic commands as well, which feels pretty good now that you're tilting both sticks.
>>335141848
Splatoon does the same shit and many pros use the motion controls for that all the time.
>>335141657
>allow for much more variety in what happens on screen because your reticle isn't tied to your position on-screen.
because the dumb game was designed to force you to do this crap
you wouldn't need it if the gameplay wasn't designed to be shit so you have to use their control scheme
>>335141848
That just comes with the territory of motion control idiot. If it didn't have it THEN it'd be busted.
>>335132770
>No brain Andross
Literally why. Why the fuck would they not include a second Andross form? A game from 20 years got it right and this one can't. Fucking Neo-Nintendo
>>335142094
maybe it shouldn't have bad motion controls in the first place
>>335141848
You're like the dipshit who says "Duke Nukem 3D had full reflections why don't modern games!"
Motion controls that aren't tied to an IR require a recalibration button, it's the reality of the technology.
>>335142047
>you wouldn't need it if you restricted the design so that it wasn't necessary to aim independently of your ship
>>335141959
Yeah no 100% ing 64 would take about 2. And we've established that the video was not in fact a 100% run
Waiting for the mall across the street from my condo to open up so I can go pick up my copy. Fucking stoked.
Anyone else got Falco and Fox amiibo? The retro arwing looks great.
>>335142253
>2
>have to get medals on every single fucking level, requiring multiple runs
>have to do it on 2 difficulties
>Solar alone would require its own run since it drains you teammate's health
yeah no, you're retarded.
>>335141959
You literally cannot take the secondary paths on your first playthrough, the portals don't pop up yet.
>>335141959
Nigga SF64 is a 40-minute to an hour game unless you're a 5-year-old
>>335142253
You don't get shit for doing it
I'm going to pick up a copy from the store later and I'm sure I'll get used to the controls just like with Uprising, but unlike a lot of people I'm not going to pretend like this is the optimal control scheme and having options is somehow a bad thing.
>>335135148
I kekked anon thanks this is grade A falseflag
What the fuck us Plex tho
>>335142346
>4
>have to beat the game once to unlock all the secondary paths
>have to collect all 3 gold ring medals and all 5 medals on each path of each stage requiring multiple playthroughs
Yeah, nah, you're retarded, it takes more than 3 hours to 100% Zero
>>335133315
If I didn't like Star Fox, I would probably buy Dark Souls III, because I'm not retarded enough to swear loyalty to a videogame company
>>335142129
There's seriously no SO ANDROSS YOU SHOW YOUR TRUE FORM moment?
How in the fuck.
No unlockables, no control scheme options, no alternate paths that lead to the real final boss.
Have we really gone that far backwards in nearly 20 years?
>>335133315
They first have to remember that they bought a wii u in the first place and dig it out of their thrash
So has anyone actually gotten 100% 100% yet? Aka all medals on all stages?
>>335142243
OK autist
>just got it in the mail
>Zero and Guard each have their own boxes
I was expecting it to be shoved into the Zero case like Bayonetta 1 was. Taking up more shelf space, but still, very nice.
>>335142547
I seriously am wondering what the fuck they even delayed the game for.
>>335132770
>Wii U
LOL
>>335142872
>I seriously am wondering what the fuck they even delayed the game for.
The game was having serious framerate issues which is why they brought in Platinum
You can get to the end if this game in FIVE MINUTES. How is this allowed?
>>335142684
They have, you getnothing
THREE
HOURS
SIXTY U.S. DOLLARS
Feels good to not be poor.
>>335142936
I thought Platinum was brought in before the delay? Didn't it get delayed from December 2015 to now?
>>335132770
I agree, the controls feel natural after a bit, and actually help a shitload when you can't quite turn in on an enemy, but it's easy to just do a minor adjustment with the gamepad. I feel that mapping that to the right stick wouldn't have felt good because of how much it would want to snap back. You'd be fighting it more, whereas this just feels like mouse movement. It's smart. When you get to the end of the first mission and you have to hit those little targets just right, that's when it all clicks.
The one problem with it I have is that when you do the lock on, you lose the reticle, even if you adjust it into view. I get why: they want you to look at the game pad, but when your ship is facing a completely different direction, you just won't see what you're locking onto, so if you use the pad to see what you're shooting, you'll often lose it by the time it flies around you.
In the linear shootouts and the all-range modes where you're not dog-fighting it's easy to quickly swap between viewing the screen and tablet, because what's in front of you will still be line of sight, but when something is out of your front 120, you can't really turn to see it on the gamepad, and still manage your control of the ship at the same time, so if my cursor was still on screen like it is every other time with the motion controls on, it would be a lot easier to shoot those fuckers down.
The lock on was clearly designed to solve a problem with the dog fighting, but I feel by removing the targeting reticle, it just takes it a step back further, especially since now there are no other indicators of where that enemy is.
Other than that it feels pretty good, but it just bums me out that the dog fighting (something that I really wanted to be good), feels so rough and clumsy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw5UN4yu1jc
>GETTING ALL 70 MEDALS LETS YOU USE THE BLACK AND RETRO ARWINGS
>GETTING ALL 70 MEDALS LETS YOU USE THE BLACK AND RETRO ARWINGS
>GETTING ALL 70 MEDALS LETS YOU USE THE BLACK AND RETRO ARWINGS
>GETTING ALL 70 MEDALS LETS YOU USE THE BLACK AND RETRO ARWINGS
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN SF0 SHITPOSTERS WERE BTFO!?!?!
>>335141453
Splatoon has one to, and you can't be retarded enough to think those controls are bad.
>>335143032
Can't you use those from the beginning with amiibos?
>>335142970
>LE 3 HOURS FACE
Is this the birth of an epic new meme?
>>335143084
you can, but now they aren't amiibo exclusive
>>335142959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_PMab-SGgY
>>335143032
>no expert mode
Just kill it
>>335143032
It's called Amiibos, anon
jesus christ, the damage control
>>335143032
>blue engine
>>335143126
Then I wish there was something more that you can unlock that you can't get with amiibos. Just kinda cheapens the whole thing.
Still salty about how there's no true form Andross too.
>>335143109
>The Order
>5 hours
>cinematic experience
>everyone is allowed to shit on it
>Star Fox Zero
>3 hours
>cinematic experience
>no one is allowed to shit on it
why is this allowed?
>>335143227
Its okay when Nintendo does it.
Miyamoto even referred to Star Fox Zero as a "cinematic experience" in interviews.
>>335143152
oh don't give me that crap. Yesterday everyone was bitching how they were amiibo exclusive. Now that you've been proven wrong you're trying to backpedal and say 'Oh it didn't matter'
>>335143032
Aww sheeyit, I thought it was weird that you'd get nothing for collecting all those medals.
I'm glad I don't have to buy amiibo to unlock them.
>>335143141
Beat it with the black arwing, if you're so great
>>335142405
Yes and?
He skimmed the game rather than doing a true 100% run
>>335143227
Probably because StarFox isn't a cinematic experience, it's a fucking STG. Thise of us who are older than ten have been playing them for decades.
>>335143227
>Star Fox Zero
>cinematic experience
What the fuck am I reading?
>>335143227
>calling the order a game, when it requires , like 40 button presses from start to finish.
orderfags will never be able to overcome how shit that "game"is
>>335139937
Well in theory, you can 100% in 3 hrs, but lets be honest it wont happen until you get really good at the game, it took me 2 years to get expert mode as a kid
>>335143448
That's nowhere near the same as expert mode you faggot
>>335143480
Shiggy literally said this himself
>We want it to be that you can complete the course of the game in the same amount of time you would spend watching a movie, so it's a cinematic experience. While there are still some branching paths, the main thing we are focusing on is having second and third missions available for each planet
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/06/16/a-star-fox-zero-conversation-with-shigeru-miyamoto-and-his-team.aspx
>>335143480
you are a true autist
>>335143478
>>335143480
Straight from Miyamoto himself.
This time, by having the two screens coupled with the aiming and the flight controls separately, what that meant is that we had an ability to create really cool cinematic sequences on the TV that you could still play through, and fly using the cockpit screen on the Gamepad
>It also gave us an ability to make a more cinematic experience that’s still interactive.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/04/star-fox-zero-preview-shigeru-miyamoto-interview
>>335143227
>The Order
>5 hours
HAAH WAAW
>Star Fox Zero
>cinematic experience
fuck off retard
>>335143608
We have the game anon we know that it isn't, unlike you.
>>335143691
So Shigeru Miyamoto knows nothing about his own game, but some random drone on a Mongolian belly dancing board does
Whatever you say
>>335143661
>that you could still play through
Important thing to note here. And that's always been sort of the thing with Star Fox, even with 64 it got comparisons to Star Wars space battles that you could actually play, because characters are talking and shit while you still had control. You look at Mario 64 or Ocarina of Time, those games do come to a standstill during cutscenes and story development in comparison to Star Fox.
Hell Kid Icarus Uprising did the same thing, 90% of the plot is done while playing the game instead of cutscenes.
>>335143661
>>335143608
Read some Roland Barthes you retards
>>335143665
So I guess Shiggy is a retard then, because that's literally what he said.
>>335144059
Who the fuck is that?
>>335144081
I find no issue with that statement
>STG
>Cinematic experienxe
>>335144059
"Death of the Author" was not implying that the author's opinion is completely irrelevant, faggotron
>>335144149
I shpuld have expected /v/ to be incapable of google.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_Author
>>335144272
I can Google but why the fuck should I read anything by him?
>>335143921
>>335144081
>you could still play through
Good job twisting his words, I bet all those QTEs and cutscenes rotted your brains
I had always assumed that Nintendrones were just a meme. Until today.
Guys, the Wii U has plenty of good games (I would know, I fucking own one) but that doesn't mean you need to defend every turd Nintendo shits out. Sometimes even masters make mistakes.
>>335144212
It is implying that a work is not only what the author says it is
Comparing Star Fox to The Order is full blown retardism, no matter who said it.
>>335143608
>>335143227
>>335143661
Here's something very important that you missed in your eargerness to shitpost: In Star Fox Zero, you're playing the game, shooting shit and dodging attacks while that "cinematic experience" is happening. What they meant is that it feels like you're in a movie scene, like the Star Wars space battles, while you play, with other characters constantly talking and interacting while you're doing your objectives. You're not sitting in your chair with the controller on the floor watching a movie clip like with The Order, Metroid Other M, or any Metal Gear Solid game.
>>335144326
That's all the spoonfeeding you get today, pleb.
>>335144337
That would be Implying this is a mistake in any shape or form.
>>335144334
He still said it was a cinematic experience. The only one twisting his words is you
But go ahead and keep rationalizing in your head how it's justified to spend 60 dollars for a 3 hour game
>>335134073
>It can't be that game reviewers are retarded despite them clearly showing that they are for the past 10 yers
>No, it must be Nintendo paying people to post comments, even though said comments are from users that has been on the site for years
>>335144272
>the author doesn't know what he's talking about
Possibly the stupidest shit ive ever heard. What kind of authority does the faggot who wrote that even have? His subjective opinion is meaningless to me.
>>335144523
>>335143478
>>335142939
Didn't you fags get sick of the short game meme when MGR came out?
>>335144619
Wow so if Shiggy said that StarFox was a volleyball sim, would he be right because he made it?
>>335144554
Remember, all video game journalists are stupid, suck at games, and are full of shit. UNLESS they hate a game that you also hate, in which case they become the absolute authority on video games and are always correct which allows you to yell "ROLF BTFO (company name)DRONES!!!".
>>335135148
>>Cult classic titles like Metroid: Other M, Star Fox Command, and Donkey Kong 64 all available with a click of the button.
it took me until here to realize you were taking the piss
nicely done
>>335144337
Just let it go anon. These idiots are marketers, they're paid to defend Nintendo's little gimmick shitbombs.
>>335144771
He didn't say that though so that point isn't even worth discussing. Retard
>>335132770
Haven't played Starfox so I can't comment on how well I use it, but in general gyro aiming is met with a "I wont even bother to adapt to it" mentality even in situations where it outright superior to console controls.
It's honestly annoying how companies are asked to be technologically progressive in that are trendy but get panned for progressing technology in areas that aren't. Just let technology progress and tweak shit as we go along.
>>335144824
Except it is, because he said somethig retarded about his game
The rail segments are fucking great and if the game was just that I'd have no complaints at all. Landmaster is okay, chicken walker I'm not super into but no complaints with it either.
My only complaints are the gyrowing which is basically an entirely different game and slow as shit, not the cool rail shooter Star Fox is, and that all range mode can be mad fucking awkward because of no map and the way lock on works.
The controls are much the same - they're great during rail segments but can be more awkward at other times.
Bosses are fucking amazing so far though. They're huge and fun to fight.
>>335144890
Nope. He said something accurate about his game
>>335144784
No, they are retarded and bad at games at all fucking times
Review posters and Metacritic cocksuckers should be burned at the fucking stake
>>335132770
can you turn off waggle/meme controls and play it regular?
I love starfox but cant into waggle motion gimmicks
>>335135148
>A tonne of old games from 2011-2015
wew so many games
all sales combined the wii u barely got 60mil units of software and what 12mil hardware.
So yeah they have fuck else to play once they purchase their overpriced nintendo shovelware.
i loved the snes n64 gc but the wii and u are poor excuses for a console.
>>335144905
Yet another shill, how much is Nintendo paying you, tasteless faggot, play a real game like anything that's not made by Nintendo.
>>335144969
And this is where I'm sure it's b8
Incoming intense shitpost because I called you out
>>335144986
No, you can set it to activate only while shooting but you can't get rid of them
Which ones am I missing?
>>335145102
You do not know more than fucking Shigeru Miyamoto about a game that he himself made you pretentious piece of human garbage. You're like those retards who claim to know better than doctors
>>335142984
Nice, is Ratchet and Clank good?
Too much of a poorfag to get PS4 yet but it looks fun. Never tried the Ratchet and Clank games either.
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>>335145278
Wow anon, you must really suck, everyone knows you can 100% this game in 3 hours
>>335145137
damn, thanks. that ruins it for me, i couldn't stand 10mins of skyward sword because of forced waggle.
Was hoping it was like splatoon and you could turn them off
>>335145329
It's worse than the original release and HD version on PS3, not a very good reason to buy a PS4.
>motion controls are actually good I swear
When will this meme end?
>>335145327
I do know more than the creator because creators always lie while I hold the truth in my hands.
>>335144970
>No, they are retarded and bad at games at all fucking times
You just reminded me on the one that died in kirby of all things
>>335145451
>I suck therefore everything else is the problem
>>335145327
Nice try. Shitpost somewhere else.
>>335142460
>What the fuck us Plex tho
A media server that plays your files on almost any device.
>>335145451
Motion controls is not the end all be all answer to everything, but it does at least attempt to bridge the game between console controllers and superior control schemes.
>>335145424
SFZ was built entirely around the gyro aiming, you literally cannot beat the game without them. Therefore an option to turn them off isn't feasible. At least give it a rent before you completely write it off, it's a solid Star Fox game.
>>335145470
lol okay kiddo
>>335145451
>motion controls are bad
When will THIS meme end?
>>335145634
Fuck off shill
>>335145615
Try not to wear your butthurt on your sleeve.
>>335145451
Have you played Splatoon? It is genuinely the best alternative to M+KB, almost on par with it even.
>>335145721
Delusional
>>335145721
>shilling awful gimmicks this hard
The cancer is real.
>>335145614
Waggle garbage will always be objectively inferior. No exceptions.
>Star Fox 64 came out nearly two decades ago
>in that time, three main titles and two spinoffs have released
>the only game that is ARGUABLY an improvement over 64 is 643D
>>335145424
>Playing Splatoon without gyro
Why the fuck would you ever
>>335132770
Should be arrive tommorow
>>335135148
>Definitive version of Mass Effect 3
Doesn't have the Leviathan or Citadel DLC though.
Also
>Cult classic titles like Metroid: Other M
>>335145709
Why don't you learn to adapt instead of whining about things you cannot change?
>>335145278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNUNAL4LeQ
>>335145448
bullshit. i mean the it's worse than the original part. not worth buying a PS4 for i can agree with.
>>335145329
yes i'm 5 hours in and it seems good.
basically an updated version of the original using all the modern systems like strafing and gun upgrading and shit.
also looks real nice and it's fun to explore.
Funny how both games feature animal characters in space.
Ratchet even has a "do a barrel roll" moment.
>>335145634
the game is 80 dollars with no way to rent, i'm just gonna skip it and play starfox 64 for the 1000th time
>>335145451
When they stop being good for aiming
So never
>>335145803
This. Everything odl is superior, everything new is inferior, only shills and retarded kids prefer useless waggling to what we've been using for thirty years with absolutely no problem. Change is bad, and anyone who wants change needs to die.
>>335145791
>>335145796
Then please explain why the Gyro control for Splatoon is bad.
Because as it is currently, it allows for fairly precise aiming while still allowing you to move about freely. The main downside is that it can be awkward to get used to at first but once you get the hang of it, it feels pretty natural and allow you to do some good snap shots and other shit.
>>335145412
>unironically using twitch memes
>>335145897
You're right. Ride to Hell Retribution isn't a shitty game, I just need to play it enough times so I can adapt to it so it becomes fun
>>335145803
>All motion controls are waggle
I know the word waggle lost it's meaning years ago but it's still annoying as fuck
Motion controls kill any kind of comfort factor while playing.
>>335146043
It's forced Nintendo gimmick garbage for kids who think they need to be different. Fuck off.
>>335145917
>had to focus on Pigma & Andrew
Well I'm retarded.
>>335135148
Man if they just release newer FIFA, COD, and Assasin Creed it there would totally awesome, with gamepad support off course
>>335132770
>The reviewers are full of shit as usual
>>335134073
>Nintendo
>Ever paying for shills
>The company that removes youtube videos left and right
...
>Being this retarded
>>335146079
>>All motion controls are waggle
Yes.
>>335146128
>forced
Whoops.
>>335132770
Game is great. The only legit thing reviews said is that the game is short, like SF64. Everything else is very very stupid.
>Hurr this game could be hood ten years ago, not now
This is the dumbest one. If a game was good two, ten, twenty or thirty years ago, it is good even today.
>>335146128
Nice fucking counterargument there. You can't even come up with a single thing to say why it's bad?
>>335135148
>Definitive versions of Deus Ex: Human Revolution
>>335146191
No you retard, waggle is the stupid shit in Twilight Princess, the Wii version of Forgotten Sands, DKCR, etc.
>RANDOMLY FLAIL YOUR ARMS AROUND TO DO [ACTION]
But you're too new to know that. You probably also think Weeaboo means "Japanese".
>>335146069
No one is defending shitty games here m8
Star Fox Zero is good, the controls just require actual skill.
>3 hours
>60 dollars
>replayability excuse
This is just tragic.
>>335142130
it's a failsafe you ingrate
>>335146375
You're right, Ride to Hell Retribution is good, it just requires skill
>>335146156
>m-muh nintendo would never pay for shills
>>335146305
It's bad because it's forced on the players, it's inferior to the traditional control style, and it's typical Nintendo shit. You must be getting rich with all this shilling.
>>335132770
Just did the first 3 levels, not seeing any validity with the complaints.
>Motion aiming isn't as "intrusive" as /v/ would lead you to believe and even then it can be mapped to only activate when you hold down Zr
>Graphics are solid but simple so they could be better but aren't the shit show /v/ would lead you to believe
>Lots of variety with each mission, again, /v/ would have you think it's a bad thing but it mixes up missions pretty well
Overall Reviwers are casuals, and /v/ hates anything Nintendo. probably because it takes attention away from DS3 or some shit.
>>335146401
Found the literal child
Go back to you epik 140 hour RPGs
>>335144674
I got sick of it when Dishonored came out
>>335146589
Tragic.
>>335135148
>Cult classic titles like Metroid: Other M, Star Fox Command, and Donkey Kong 64 all available with a click of the button
>Other M
My sides have reached the astral plane
>>335146494
You're clearly beyond reasoning Ride to Hell Retribution-San
>>335146589
Found the literal retard
Go play the Order if you want a 4 hour, 60 dollar "cinematic experience"
>>335146565
>It's inferior to tradtional control style
You've never actually played Splatoon, have you? Or are you seriously so fucking retarded that you're going to claim that normal console controllers are better?
>>335146589
Found the nintencuck. Enjoy your 2 hour $60 experience
>>335135148
this is an already debunked meme post from some time ago
>>335146061
>unironically using pepes
>>335146565
>forced
Wasn't forced in Splatoon.
>>335146618
What's tragic is how you missed out on the arcade area, and how kids like you are going to keep pushing for more cutscenes and walking to pad out your games while gameplay is left on the side of the road to rot
>>335146565
>it's inferior to the traditional control style,
>faster
>considerably more accurate
>immersive
What's bad about it?
This isn't sixaxis you know.
>>335145634
>rent
Can you even rent games anymore?
>>335144674
/v/ has always, consistently, shit on short video games that cost substantial amounts of money for being short and costing substantial amounts of money
Gone Home, Firewatch, Halo 5, the Order, etc.
It's not some anti-Nintendo conspiracy
>>335146535
>Once again implying the Nip company removing shill videos themselves would pay for shilling
>>335146713
>not this one
The hard truth is that we all thought we wanted Star Fox but.......... we didn't. Star Fox is an unfun outdated relic from the past
>>335146683
>Star Fox
>"cinematic experience"
What the fuck
>>335145278
>only 4 hours
I thought Guard was supposed to come in a download code in regular boxes but I got nothing. What gives?
>>335146823
People didn't bitch at them because they were short, people bitched because the gameplay was horrendous.
>>335132770
Eh it was okay...
>>335146912
Im wondering this also. I thought guard got a physical release?
>>335146823
I don't know how you'd think I thought that, since I was talking about a game that was not released on a Nintendo console.
>>335146809
Well there's GameflyOr you could find a used copy at Gamestop and return it before 7 days, more than enough time to beat SFZ
>>335146823
No the reason Firewatch, Gone Home and Order were shit on is because of their shit gameplay. Not to mention Gone Home and Firewatch's abysmal story. I won't speak on Halo 5 since I didn't play it
>>335146912
>>335147006
There is also a release that just comes with SF0 and no Guard, from what I've heard.
>press start
>go into controls
>turn off always-on gyro aim
Holy shit. That was fucking easy. I fixed the fucking controls.
Surprise, surprise, reviewers are retarded.
>>335132770
>I am having a blast with it
Yeah keep telling that yourself.
>>335146948
Firewatch and Starfox 0's gameplay are on the same level of quality
>>335146997
Only with the first print edition.
The cheap version only has zero
>>335147108
>Spreading lies
>>335146872
Straight from Shigeru Miyamoto himself
see
>>335143608
>>335144402
and the good posts always get ignored
man /v/ is shithole when its comes to nintendo
Took a sick day to play it. I honestly really like it. I was pessimistic due to shit posting but as usual /v/ was wrong.
>>335147171
Post your copy of star fox if
>>335146298
That really is dumb as all hell. If it weren't for the platformer revival they'd be saying the same shit about that genre
>>335147221
>he didn't press start to fix the controls
It's literally in the game, Totilo. Just press start. Just press start.
>>335147234
>taking his words or of context
>not knowing that he's talking about the fact you have full control during cutscenes
>>335146823
Plenty of games /v/ likes are short and the games you mentioned were shat on because of gameplay you fucking retard. The gameplay length didn't help either since Gone Home for example had zero replayability.
Why the fuck is the concept of there being other aspects of a game that can justify a price so alien to faggots like you? All I've ever seen in this thread is "3 HOURS 3 HOURS 3 HOURS"
Not a single time have I seen you faggots mention gameplay, replayability, characters, story or anything like that and how they affect the value of the game as a whole.
You're a bunch of fucking parrots, repeating the same shit over and over without anything of substance to bring into the discussion, because even if I bring up replayability and score system, something common in these types of games and the reason why they are enjoyed, not the length of the campaign. you'll ignore it and just keep spouting the same bullshit.
The worst part is that it makes it obvious that you're either a shitposter or fucking underage kiddo that has zero experience with the original Star Fox games, Gradius and other games like it.
>>335146948
Nigger, how new are you? Everyone was complaining about how short they were. There were other complaints too but the length and price were definitely one of them
just played the first two levels a couple times
its fun. going between screens is either frantic and cool or frustrating depending on if youre in the groove. the ground bits aren't the best but they arent out of place
>>335147398
>Plenty of games /v/ likes are short
Like Vanquish.
>>335143661
>nintencucks will defend this
>>335147086
Fuck. I read online that the retail version came with a download code, I thought there was only the regular version and the special edition with the steelbook and physical Guard.
Fucking Nintendo being vague as shit.
>>335147427
How new are YOU.
The majority of the complaints were due to the fact that the game play was terrible and there was no reason to replay them the length was just the icing on the shit cake that were those games
>>335146298
Agreed 100%. To make matters worse, a large amount of the games considered good now are incredibly mediocre. The shifting taste of the video game media can only hurt the quality of future games.
>>335147376
>full control during cutscenes
look at all of that full control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TixCoczLzhU
it's a cinematic experience, buddy
>>335147398
>>335147497
Superhot, Nuclear Throne, Lisa too
>>335144081
When Shiggy said "cinematic experience" he was not thinking of shit like Gone Home and The Order. I doubt he even knows what those games are.
Use your head for a second, bro. The game is a "cinematic experience," atleast in the eyes of miyamoto, because it moves independently of the player.
Miyamoto also said that movies are inherently "passive" and video games are "active." SF is a "cinematic experience" because it blurs the line between those two. As all on-rail shooters have ever been ever.
>>335147265
/v/ isnt wrong about this game other than shitposters who havnt played it
the reviewers are the ones who are wrong who hate arcade style gameplay in the current age. Id hate to say it, but I see why AAA games cant makes short skill based games anymore.
I guess its expected to be 15$ indie titles if you want arcade style games nowadays
>>335147578
(you)
>>335147398
truth
>>335146984
>metascore
>>335147578
>not knowing you control it on the gamepad
You stupid nigger.
>>335147601
Were they all a full $60?
>>335147234
I don't care who said it. Take a casual fucking glance at the actual game.
>>335147398
>characters
>story
>helping justify 60 dollars
>implying star fox has ever done these two right
>>335147697
So?
>>335147717
I don't see what that has to do with anything when only the first print of zero was full price, and it came with another game and other shit.
>>335147765
Yes, Shigeru Miyamoto is wrong and everyone else who bought the game for 60 dollars and has post-purchase rationalization is right
>>335147717
I would have payed 60 for all of them. Even Lisa if it came with Joyful
>>335147796
Star Fox Zero is actually 50$ :^)
>>335147398
Fucking this
Leave my Shmups alone faggots, go play whatever shit game you like
>>335147697
Real replayability
Longer game
Deserves a higher score than Star Fox Zero
>>335145451
Mouse is motion control dumbass
>>335147398
All of what you said might be reasonable if the game was like $20-$30.
>>335147634
>but I see why AAA games cant makes short skill based games anymore.
A literal retard 100% the game in 3 hours, playing terribly
>b-b-but its edited!
Yeah, I'm sure level selection adds so much value.
>reviewers are wrong
>/v/ still side with reviewers
What in the actual fuck is going on around here
>>335147806
I'm saying i dont exactly trust a score from a site with a favorable opinion of one of the most overrated games of the decade
>>335147881
Unless it's 10 dollars and an eshop exclusive, don't reply to me.
>>335147920
Star Fox has better gameplay. Hell even it's story is better
iso + title key when
>>335147920
that may be true but a 96?
becaues its longer and has more replayability? I guess that means skyrim deserves a higher score than like literally any game released before 1999
>>335147601
>Superhot
Everyone was mocking it because the ending literally encouraged you to shill it left and right. There were also people bitching about how expensive it was for its length
>Nuclear Throne, Lisa
Did not cost 60 dollars
>>335147920
>real replayability
No lie, I played skrim for 5 hours at release, stayed up all night to try it out
Ive never been so dissapointed with a game
>>335147975
Anti-Nintendo shills that hate fun for a living
>>335147931
A short game can be worth 60$
>>335147843
I haven't even played the fucking game, I'm just not dumb enough to think that Star Fox is a cinematic experience
>>335132770
You have a copy already?
Can you post pics?
Also
>all the shitposting about this game
Jesus christ.
>>335148062
As opposed to what? Nintendrones who think a game that takes 3 hours (much less if youre not a dumbass) to 100% takes skill?
>>335148128
So Shigeru Miyamoto, who was involved in making the game, is a retard
Good to know
>outright rehashed bosses now
Come ooooon.
> it's another Nintendrones defending any scraps that come their way thread
Lel
>>335148050
>Superhot
Literally nobody talked about the story. Every thread I saw was having fun with the gameplay
>Nuclear Throne, Lisa
I would pay 60$ for them. Length should not determine value
>>335148112
Maybe two decades ago.
>>335148240
You don't hear me arguing, do you?
>>335148062
Nintendo shills want to rationalize how it's justified to spend 60 dollars for a 3 hour cinematic experience while shitting on the Order
>>335148257
>its another shitposters vehemently shitpost about nintendo without ever playing the game thread
lal
>>335148286
You mean when gaming wasn't run by shills and retards?
>>335132770
Downloading it now. I look forward to it, a lot.
>>335148286
Literal children should leave
>>335148219
You must be 18+ to post here, faggot
>>335132770
im picking it up later tonight. ill probably play it with my girlfriend in 2p mode.
>>335148264
>Literally nobody talked about the story. Every thread I saw was having fun with the gameplay
Where the hell were you? Everyone was complaining about how the game was being shilled. The ending in particular was mocked all over the place and there were tons of people saying it wasn't worth the price
Stop making shit up
>>335148358
When games had more limitations.
Star Fox Zero has no excuse for being 3 hours long in 2016.
>>335147963
>A literal retard 100% the game in 3 hours, playing terribly
Through the magic of rehearsal, editing and not actually getting 100%.
See, you can't use that to shitpost now that the game is out
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpdhGlySwH4
>$60 now and forever
>3 hours to 100%
>No multiplayer
>GameCube graphics
>Get nothing for beating the game, buy the amiibos
>Arcade mode is literally just a fixed route with nothing changed
>That limp Andross fight is the final boss
>>335148396
See you in 2 hours (if that) when you've completely mastered the game.
>>335148331
>going to bat for THE ORDER
Holy shit, fuck off
>>335148331
That's easy: the Order has nonfucking gameplay and can be beaten with fucking double digit button presses
Wew, did I help?
>>335148358
Are you 18? Nintendo Power magazine was basically a monthly shill rag. Same with most of the other magazines with a console in the title.
>>335148219
>he fell for the 3 hour misinformation
leave, that shit was completely false. Way to eat up anything that confirms your biases faggot.
>>335148478
>editing
Gee, level selection is so exciting and adds so much to the game. Never mind that he left the story bits in.
>>335148463
There's no reason for it to be longer. Short =/= bad
>>335148503
Thanks.
>>335148602
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt Nintoddler
>>335148602
No, it wasn't. The only thing false was that it didn't include arcade mode, which basically gives you nothing and allows you to replay the levels, and a music player.
>>335148582
Who the fuck is talking about gaming magazines
>>335148404
Go ahead and leave then, faggot. Sixty bucks for a 3 hour game in 2016 is a rip off, and if you think otherwise you're either a hardcore unpaid shill for whomever is trying to pull that shit, or underage and have your parents buy you everything.
>>335148478
>editing
Literally grasping at straws at this point m
>>335148651
>Never mind that he left the story bits in.
Oh you mean the gameplay? Because there's never a moment during a mission where you don't have control.
If a cutscene is happening you're most likely getting shot if you aren't looking at the gamepad.
>>335148582
It was a great way to learn about games pre-Netscape.
>>335148657
There's no reason for it to cost $50.
>>335148704
Scratch that. You seem at least somewhat smart. Make it 1.
>>335148807
>Bloodborne
Literally irrelevant now that Dark Souls 3 is out. How do Sonyfriends feel now that their only exclusive is obsolete
>>335148807
Is that iwata's skeleton?
>>335148657
should've been $30 or $40 then.
Ground Zeroes cost $30 ($20 on last gen consoles) and has about as much content as SFZ
>>335148935
If it plays well there's no reason not to. There's long boring games that exist that aren't worth 60$
>>335147253
>man /v/ is shithole
You coulda just stopped there really
>>335149052
Because that was a glorified demo retard.
Hell that shit should have been free.
>>335148738
I'm assuming when you were referring to shills you're talking about the gaming journalists and not people who are paid to make games under some development team. Or do you not know what a shill is?
>>335147497
You can get Vanquish now really, really cheap. Same thing for Revengeance. On release it was criticized for its length like any other game
If Nintendo dropped the prices of their games then this might just be initial criticism eventually forgotten later when the game gets cheaper but they never do. This is why 60 dollars for Star Fox is particularly unacceptable
>>335149087
>If it plays well
Well, SF0 fails there. Too bad its a baby-mode, 2 hour, cinematic experience.
>>335149167
>A glorified demo has as much content as SFZ
How is this a good thing
>>335149052
People were and still are bitching about GZ's price. The fact is /v/ just don't want to pay for games but won't admit it
>>335149052
Ratchet and Clank was also cheaper, and there were still some people complaining about cut content there
>>335149218
I remember people shitting on both Bayo 2 and MGR for weeks for having 12 hours of content or some garbage.
>No brain Andross
They literally had one job
>>335142936
>Platinum in charge of good coding
No, Platinum and Nintendo were working together from the begenning
>>335149387
They retconned Andross so that he no longer has the brains to rule Lylat
>>335149479
I heard that this one isn't the real Andross and the real one is in another dimension, is that true?
>>335149251
>>A glorified demo has as much content as SFZ
Yeah because SFZ is a half hour open world demo. You fucking retard
>>335149545delete this
>>335149387
>Miyamoto has an entire interview about alternate paths and their incidence of the game
>80% of them just lead to slightly different version of the same mission or individual boss battles, all of them lead to the same obnoxious Andross battle anyway
Seriously, some time they don't even acknowledge that you warped. What the fuck went on during the development of this game?
>>335149556
You never played GZ
>>335149545
No, the metal head you fight in chicken mode is the last boss.
>>335149632
And you never played SFZ :^)
>>335149218
All those games like Star Fox are built around replayability. It's games like the Order which are justified in critique because they're entirely QTEs and linear hallway stories.
>>335148804
You're fuckkng underaged
Games in the style of Star Fox have ALWAYS been short and 64 is much shorter. If you don't like the STG genre, that's fine. Leave it the fuck alone. Don't whine to pad that shit with a fuckload of walking and cutscenes like most modern shit. Let me have my fucking videogames
>>335149730
Too bad Star Fox Zero has no replayability this time around, you don't get shit other than a different arwing and music player. They couldn't even be assed to implement leaderboards.
>>335148721
he did not get all the medals and did not get every stage ending. Did you even watch the video or did you mindlessly jump on the shitposting brigade? Do you not know what "100%" means? Are you seriously treating a random fucking youtube video as the word of god?
the moment I see this >>335145278 with 70/70 medals, all stages, and 3 hours I'll shut up. That's never going to happen, though.
>>335149730
But there's no expert mode or multiplayer and even when using alternate routes it's still 3 hours.
>>335149762
I think it'd be cool if we could walk around the Great Fox
>>335149632
More than you have that's for sure.
>>335149730
>built around replayability.
You mean the replayability that goes into the (at most) 3 hour 100%?
>>335149000
Oh fuck off, there's already enough console warring in this thread
>Fox didn't want those grapes anyways
>>335149762
>64 is much shorte
And 64 was made two fucking decades ago when making a game like that would be much more expensive and difficult to make.
Stop being such a huge cuck. You don't have to defend everything Nintendo does.
>>335149838
>Multiplayer
>Implying you played multiplayer in any of the star fox games or even owned a Nintendo console in your life
>Expert mode
see
>>335143032
>>335149898
You're right. There's no point in arguing because PC wins
>>335149840
And I hope you get a game where you can walk around a big spaceship someday anon
But please leave it out of Star Fox. That's how shit like Assault gets made.
>>335145873
The definitive of edition of Mass Effect 3 shouldn't have the Citadel DLC. It was a shitpile.
>>335150009
You don't get shit for that you idiot, you get an extra arwing but no fucking expert mode
>>335150042
>didn't play Assault' multiplayer
>>335147398
>Not a single time have I seen you faggots mention gameplay, replayability, characters, story or anything like that and how they affect the value of the game as a whole
>gameplay
Disappointing, because I was quite excited for it. Feels clunky, yet easy.
>replayability
Quite decent, there's plenty of reason to keep coming back, but on the other band I'm quickly bored of the game itself so I'm not motivated to.
>characters
Same as they've always been, nothing of note.
>story
Not a big factor in Star Fox, so the fact that it's nothing special at all isn't really an issue.
>graphics
Biggest issue for me. FPS is fine, but everything just looks so dated.
There you go.
>>335150042
>he didn't play Assault
>he thinks black arwing is expert mode
Fuck off you idiot, you probably don't even know what expert mode is
>>335149972
And 64 is still a great fucking game you pleb. And it wasn't as more demanding as you're implying.
>>335148243
nice PS2 graphics nintendo friend, enjoy your 60USD videogame :)
>>335150249
I can't tell if you're deliberately being obtuse or have some kind of learning disability.
>>335150368
>he actually bought a full priced 3 hour game
>>335150368
>So mad he paid $60 for a shit game he flipped it off and posted it online
>>335141821
If you're still alive I'll take it, whats your email address?
>>335135148
>this post
I'll take buyers remorse for 500 Alex
>>335150368
Are you a manlet?
>>335150434
Whoops, did you run out of arguments?
>>335150145
That arwing is expert mode you retard.
This Gyro is complete trash. Fuck this gimmicky bullshit.
Why can't I remap my fucking buttons?
Why can't I turn off this shit.
God fucking DAMN this game would have been good without the fucking gyro. It doesn't fucking add anything to the game. Fuck nintendo and their refusal to give people OPTIONS.
>>335150440
The best part is that he bought it solely to shitpost
There are literally shitposters here that will waste money just to shitpost harder.
>>335150627
But thats not what expert mode is
http://starfox.wikia.com/wiki/Expert_Mode
>The expert missions have the same layaouts as the normal missions, but there are more enemies to defeat, and some enemies will be tougher and smarter than before.
The arwing gives you more firepower at the expense of taking more damage, that's not what expert mode is.
>>335150627
No, the arwing is 2x damage both received and sent. Expert Mode in 64 has more agressive AI and different enemy placement.
>>335139897
>The satisfaction of a job well done. And Miiverse bragging rights, I guess.
Oh god this is to much my sides can't take it
>>335150152
>>335150245
I never said I didn't, faggot. I said you didn't.
>No one in Star Fox threads ever bring up multiplayer
>Only suddenly bring it up when the new game doesn't have it
>>335150627
>The thing that plays nothing like expert mode.
>>335132770
Yeah, me too, yeah they are, and yeah, they're as tight as Splatoon's. You only have to look at the gamepad sparcely, I don't know what's those assholes' problem. It also is pretty challenging at times. That fucking giant walker just destroyed me, and it looks you really have to try your best to do all the things you have to do in time
>>335150627
Here's why it's not
>It buffs your firepower to stupid high levels and nerfs your armor but does nothing to any of the enemies or bosses
>It's DLC because amiibo
>>335150874
>No one in Star Fox threads ever bring up multiplayer
Assault's multiplayer mode has been brought up every time the game was mentionned and is often quoted here as the only redeeming feature of the gamewhich I disagree with but whatever. You're full of shit.
>>335150917
One, the ai and bosses far surpass that of 64 in the Base game
Two it's not locked to an amiibo it's another shadow mewtwo, Mario maker situation.
>>335150612
You literally keep side stepping the argument of limitations and cost of game development in the 90s. It would make sense for an ambitious game stepping into the 3D realm back then to be full price, despite it being short.
But just keep responding with "but it's FUUUN" posts, buddy.
>>335151182
My nigga.
>>335151182
>Assault's multiplayer mode has been brought up every time the game was mentionned
Since the announcement of zero, before that Assault was regarded as shut in every facet and for good reason.
>>335151182
>Has been brought up every time the game was mentioned
Bull fucking shit. I'm in most of those threads and I've seen it talked about once. And that was to bitch about how Wolf was overpowered.
>>335151348
No, it would not be vastly wasier to make StarFox 64, espexially with improved graphics, today, from the ground up. Technology makes us slightly more agile and gives us higher cieligs but people still have to actually make the fucking game.
Regardless, I don't give a fuck. I want a good STG. I hope StarFox is a good STG. I haven't played it yet. But most good STGs are shorter than 3 hours. If you don't like that, GO PLAY A DIFFERENT FUCKING GENRE
The game is offered at a reduced price anyways from standard releases
>>335151678
Holy fuck this phone keyboard is shit and I'm shit at using it
Mobile was a mistake
After playing the Star Wolf fight, yeah. Multiplayer for Zero would have been fantastic, but I'm just happy to have had a good Star Fox game for once.
Miyamoto was talking about doing it at one point, so let's hope it's featured in the sequel.
>>335150783
>This Gyro is complete trash.
>>335150368
Nice shop.
The original was posted a day ago and the hand was giving a thumbs up :^)
>>335151945
The fucking Gyrowing is garbage.
The motion controls are complete fucking trash.
They ruined the fucking game.
>>335152049
Here ya go retard
>>335150783
>Fuck nintendo and their refusal to give people OPTIONS.
With most Wii U games having just about every single controller usable, they give people plenty of options. While I agree about starfox not having enough control mapping options, your claims are not that valid.
>It's bad because I think it's bad
>>335152597
My claims are fucking valid. The same shit happened with smash and their fucking online modes.
>>335152281
But it's not, it controls perfectly, what the fuck are you doing?
The gyro controls are great, they bring you the precision of a mouse for when you need them. You're supposed to use both the stick and the gyro at the same time, btw, I'm guessing the problem is that you're only using the gyro?
>every single game now gets shitposted to hell and back
Get laid, virgins
>>335152704
What?
You can play Smash with any fucking conrroller you can find, and you can map attack to the D-pad and jump to a shoulder button or whatever the fuck you want
>>335152945
>Get laid
Ok cum here bby ;)
>>335153101
I'm not talking about the controller for smash. I'm talking about how they have no fucking options for matchmaking whatsoever. Can't decide not to be matched with laggy foreigners, or see people's connections.
>dont care about Star Fox
>can just wait a month to find out if the game is trash or a hidden gem like with KI:U
t. dumb Umaru-poster
>>335152493
>so mad that he photoshopped the hand out entirely
>>335153454
Its on a different background you dumb fuck. First one was on a desk that ones on a bed. What more do you want?
So only the first run of copies get Guard?
>>335150368
Next time don't use the magic wand tool
>>335153602
Yes.
>>335153641
stay delusional you autistic crybaby
>>335153575
He's counter shitposting you
>>335153761
I don't know why he's being such a pissbaby about it, I never said I disliked the game, just that it doesn't have enough content to justify the price
>>335153575
>He can't even provide a receipt.
You don't own this game faggot. You probably just printed off the box art and put it in to the case of an old game.
the star fox shillers are out in full force today
>>335153856
Because everything on this board is a fucking console-based dick measuring contest. No one here like videogames, they like defending the single console they bought
>>335153894
Just for you, you big autistic pissbaby.
>>335154183
>Only shows the deposit
>can't post the receipt along with the physical copy of the game
>>335154183
>Stealing pictures from fucking neogaf because he doesn't like a bideogame
Fucking. lel. Jesus christ /v/ it's just a stranger on the internet
>>335153998
I bet you don't complain about the dozen of Dark Souls 3 threads.
>>335153998
Happens with every game from every company, but for some reaon you people only care this much when it's a Nintendo game.
>>335146535
>He thinks people shill on /v/
You are the cancer killing /v/. Literally. You're so fucking paranoid that everyone is a shill that you won't talk about video games. Instead you sit there and bitch and whine.
>>335154183
lol spent $50 and didn't get an actual game for it, just a promise of a game later on
how much money did you put into star citizen?
>>335154326
>>335154392
Happy now? Or do you want me to sit here and entertain the rest of your autistic delusions?
>>335154768
>photoshopping all that shit in
What a loser there's nothing proud about owning that game anyways
>Ruined Zoness for a Gryowing stage
>Playing the alternate version where you do with with the Arwing/chicken shows how pointless it is because it ends up being more enjoyable and streamlined than stopping and deploying a robot each time
>>335154768
>LITERALLY BOUGHT A GAME HE CAN'T PLAY BECAUSE HE HAS NO WII U JUST TO SO HE COULD SHOW UP SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET
JEEESUUS CHRIIIISSSSTTTT AHAHAHAHHAA
"autistic delusions" indeed holy shit
>>335154714
>star citizen?
i'm not a mustard
>>335154872
But I do have a Wii U, I'm playing it right now. I've said more than once that its a good game but just doesn't have enough content to justify the price.
Why are you so defensive?
>>335154768
>still just the deposit
>anyone can print off box art
>can't show picture of final receipt, game case, disc, and picture of the main menu on screen
No one believes that you have played this game.
>>335154898
yeah that was dumb of me
clearly you couldn't afford a gaming pc if you have to trade in your whole game collection just to play spaceship animals
>>335153998
>Game comes out today
>WAHHH WHY ARE THERE SO MANY THREADS ABOUT IT?!
Think Sherlock! Are you pissed at all the DS3 threads too?
>>335154768I'm neither of the people who replied to you after my first post.
But I find it amusing that you got baited so easily.
Also.
>trading so many games
>at a fucking retail store while we're at it, when you could easily earn at least 10 or 30 more bucks through Amazon
>buying Mario Tennis
You're probably a retarded nigger either way.
>>335154768
Stop dude. You're making everyone cringe. Photoshopping a fucking receipt is pathetic.
>>335154768
Dude won't even cover his dick in mustard and put in a hotdog bun inside the pic to prove it's real.
Fuck off, go shill your game somewhere else!
>>335152945
It's gotten worse, but nearly every Wii U release goes through this. Non-Nintendo games aren't immune, either. I remember Bloodborne getting hit pretty hard last year.
I guess since casuals "can't" play games, all they have left is shitposting.
>>335154991
>HAS A WII U
>BACKPEDALING THAT ZERO IS A GOOD GAME BECAUSE HE'S AFRAID OF ANONYMOUS BEING RUDE TO HIM
this is beautiful. simply beautiful. the fuckin characters we get around here.
>>335154493
>>335154510
>>335155208
But Dark Souls 3 is actually good. People shill because they actually like it, not because Nintendo pays them
>>335155345
>No receipt
This is just embarassing. Did you load a picture of the main menu on to the Wii U browser?
Also clean off your gamepad. It's disgusting. If that's even yours.
>>335155345
Nigger you just painted a gameboy advance black to look like the gamepad. This is getting ridiculous.
>>335155345
hahahahahahahahaha you can't even afford a tv
you do realize this game actually uses the gamepad right? you can't just use it as your primary display for the whole game. i know people have been giving you shit but i guess it turned out to be a good thing you didn't really buy it
>>335155345
He keeps doing it!
I bet this anon is literally shaking with rage.
>>335135148
Holy shit the nintenyearolds get worse every year.
I have to point out
>cult classic titles like Metroid: Other M, Star Fox Command and Donkey Kong 64
Holy shit how underage can you get. Or maybe you don't know what cult classic means.
Also my cousin picked it up this morning. We played it for a bit, but it's just poor feeling. Like they didn't play test it. We went back to playing pokken and he's gonna return it. You're just a fanboy, you need to realize it.
Can we all agree that this is the worse place to discuss vidya?
>>335155464
I've done more than enough to prove I have the game, I'm not even shit talking the game design itself or its mechanics just saying its too fucking short. It has less paths than SF64. Don't know why you guys got triggered so easily.
>>335155441
>I don't like something that means no one else does
>>335155385
Never backpedaled, retard.
>>335155587
Worse than what? Your grasp of the English language?
>>335155630
If you seriously think the game design and mechanics aren't bad you're worse than a shill, you have bad taste.
>>335155697
>all reviews say the game is shit
But it's only me who doesn't like it, anon
>>335155587
probably, but I like the shitposting vs a hugbox
>>335155828
Its just opinions man.
>>335155630
>done more than enough to prove I have the game
>can't convince anyone that he actually owns the game
>>335155587
It has its moments. Especially with the most niche games.
But this is the worst place to discuss a AAA game after release.
>>335155959
I don't give a damn if you don't believe me, you can choose to be a retard if you want to.
>>335155789
>your
it's "you're" faggot, if your gonna complain at least learn how to write you'reself first
>>335155345
You're a dumbfuck, stop encouraging them
>>335156050
i, too, spend hundreds of dollars on photoshop when i can't even afford video games without trade ins because i don't give a damn
I'm torn with this game. At one side, remembering how I played Star Fox 64 to death for days in my cousin's place.
At the other, I doubt I'll ever be that addicted with Star Fox ever again. I feel it was a one time thing. Maybe after 5-8 hours I would be done with the game.
So, it all depends on Guard. How good is it guys? What can you say about it?
>>335133315
Probably the countless other Wii U games or idk maybe a game for another system because they aren't poor and retarded and have to subscribe to only one console.
I have yet to come across someone who doesn't shit on consoles that it doesn't come down to they can't afford to have it all. Get a job kid.
>>335156236
I dont even know how to use photoshop.
I traded those games in because I hadn't played any of them in over a year and wasn't ever going to play them again.
I'll ask again, why are you so defensive? What did I say that triggered you so much?
>>335156395
He's just shitposting you and you're falling for it hard
>>335155831
>reviewers and journalists are infallible and truthful when they hate a game I hate too
It's so funny how quickly /v/ turns for and against game journalists and reviewers depending on what they say about a game, especially Poly"I'm not going to do my job"gon.
Got it today. The copter and walker are awful. Any time they're required you end up starting and stopping continuously while fighting with the motion controls.
>>335156334
This.
>>335156313
If you're looking for SF64 then this isn't it.
The new vehicles are terrible and most levels are all-range mode.
Even the fucking attack carrier boss from corneria's alt exit is now an all range mode boss. It makes no sense.
>>335156987
>you can only fight a boss in one way and one way only
>>335156750
I'm really not sure why they've been so damn afraid to fully embrace rail shooting. Every game since 64 they've added unnecessary bullshit if not eschewing it entirely. It's a perfectly acceptable genre just like anything else.
Waiting for the ISO dump then I'll check it out.
>>335156395
well yeah if you actually knew how to use photoshop people would have actually been fooled by your pathetic charade
>>335155630
you're being fucked around with mate
>>335157310
Cry some more
>>335157069
It's the same boss you fucktard but now you end up having to circle round to it needlessly.
The small change at the end with the lasers was then so incredibly easy it may not have been added.
They just recycled old content and made it WORSE.
>>335156395
>I dont even know how to use photoshop.
We noticed. That's why no one fell for your bullshit.
>>335157225
Because that would be fun.
I haven't played assault but everyone said it was best when on rails and the ground combat was shit but Nintendo doesn't listen to criticism.
>>335157362
ok i'll go cry and you can go play your game that you can't play because you don't own it which is why you're here arguing on an online forum instead of playing a game you allegedly sold your whole collection for
>>335157440
>>335157483
pissbabies
>>335132770
I'm playing it right now, and I have similar sentiments. Anyone who says the controls are difficult to use is retarded. I thought the addition of the helicopter thing would be a fucking nightmare, but not even that is difficult to use. Arwing and Landmaster feel the same. Chickenwalker is fun as fuck.
>forced to use the dual screen shit
I have no idea why they thought this was good.
>FORCING THE FUCKING LOCKON IN BOSSFIGHTS
FUCK THIS GAME
>>335157574
>I thought the addition of the helicopter thing would be a fucking nightmare, but not even that is difficult to use.
The issue is that it's completely boring.
Zoness lasts for about 25 minutes and you kill about 25 enemies.
You just float about and "hack" about a dozen panels. It's shit.
>>335157587
Yeah, the lock on is terrible.
Also for some reason it takes away the reticule when locking on, just to force you to use the screen.
Also, what was up with the landmaster NOT being able to lock on during Titania? The one place I wanted the fucking lock on and it wasn't available.
>>335157803
Minus button switches screens. There is literally no need to look away from the TV ever.
>>335156548
I have the game and I'd bet that Polygon stopped during the helicopter bits. I turned off the console at that point, it was that painful.
>>335157520
i see we're at the "lashing out with juvenile insults because i have no actual substantial proof" stage of things huh
>>335132770
Sry, but starfox lacks of semengless univers. I'll stick to No Mans Sky with the a big univers and endless planets.
>>335157928
Yes it is. The fucking aiming for bosses is completely fucked because of the retarded lockon.
>>335157928
Then you've no clue where you're driving.
I have an idea for a revolutionary system which allows you to have all the content on one screen. Some day it'll take off!
>>335158039
If they just made it so locking on centred the cannon on the target then it wouldn't have been quite as bad.
>>335158010
I posted more than enough proof, if you want to continue being an autistic crybaby about it then thats your choice I guess
People complain about looking away from the screen, but how is it two player? Was planning to play through it with my roomate on guns and me on steering
Also what is up with the game zooming in on every single thing that happens which removes your ability to see where you're going?
Either stop the game and have a small cutscene like Sf64 did or just have radio chatter announce things.
I could be flying towards a carrier in All range mode and the game gives me a point of interest and i plough into the fucking thing.
>>335158210
If they just made it optional like it fucking should be then it would be ok.
>>335158282
You are such a fucking retard, why are you still replying to him? Are you autistic? Is someone holding a gun to your head and demanding you keep replying to shitposts? Are you just trying to shit up the thread around you?
>>335158449
Making things optional would have made this game great.
That and removing the ground vehicles other than the LM.
>>335146565
>forced
>implying Splatoon doesn't allow the player to switch off motion controls
Shut the fuck up, you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>335158537
The walker COULD have been good with a better control scheme.
And a better design.
>>335157471
>I haven't played assault but everyone said it was best when on rails and the ground combat was shit
The ground combat was shit because the characters moved at breakneck speed, but you had to stop and aim whenever you shot anything like in Resident Evil 4 and other 3rd-person shooters. You could change the controls to do dual-stick aiming, but the GameCube's C-stick was atrocious for that.
Now that Nintendo has the amazing Pro Controller they finally have a way to do 3rd-person shooters the right way, but they're never going to let Star Fox out of the cockpit again because people bitched too much about Assault. Once again, the nostalgic "fans" ruin another series.
>>335158678
The chicken walker basically is a third person shooter and it's still shit.
>>335158627
I'd rather they just had more tank sections than trying to polish that turd.
>>335158620
Why would you ever
Do you hate hitting things?
>>335158678
Assault's on foot levels were acceptable once you changed the aiming to the C Stick dude.
>>335158318
I think the P1 pilots while the P2 aims and shoots, but I could be wrong.
>>335159000
landmaster was atrocious whatever you did if I remember right.
Yeah though on-foot was the best part of that game, which isn't really saying much but sure
>>335159000
It's almost like a dual analog system works well.
Why does Nintendo hate fun?
>>335159431
They don't hate fun they just think they have you best fun interest in mind or some shit.
>>335158957
I play with the motion controls.
I was just informing that anon that Splatoon allows the player to turn them on or off, instead of being forced.
>>335157283
Do you still have to use an SD card to load backups?
>>335159538
Thank god
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