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>It's another unexpected assrape episode
>it's a "tough" DaS3 enemy
>its has a 10 billion hit combo with infinite stamina which it can randomly pause or extend to fuck you up, as well as a weapon with the reach of the entire universe
do people not get tired of this?
>>335120609
Just stay glued to their right and the mini-Vordts are a piece of cake.I was a little sad that the Outrider Knight set used the generic helmet and not Vordt's ;_;
He's probably the most aggresive enemy in the whole game
>>335120750
Definitely slower than Pontiff
Yeah this guy definitely surprised me with how strong he was. And then I had forgotten by the time I got to the one at Lothric castle.
>>335120609
Maybe I should've enjoyed the fight, but I just went passed the door and shot arrows from there, realizing he can't pass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmWNjeVY3sc
>>335120842
I'd say he's slightly faster than Pontiff though, definetly more relentless
>>335121004
I'm far from considering myself good at this game but this guy really plays like utter shit
>>335121162
>bad player talking shit about another bad player
Like pottery. An endless cycle.
>>335121469
At least I know when I have to git gud rather than blaming the hitboxes, the camera or even the fucking music
>>335120954
I do stuff like this. Like in Lothric Castle, that room directly in front of the stairs from the dancer bonfire. The knight can't go past the doorway so I lured him towards it, wait until he does a forward lunge then hit him with a fully charged R2 from the machete and back off. Fuck that other thing in there that buffs him.
>>335120609
>its another just roll behind him episode
they dont have any moves that hit behind them
Its a "Where is my hard difficulty?" episode
>>335121852
The only enemy I cheesed was the spooky spider that builds up curse with its bites in the Cathedral.
Thought I could do the same with the one in Anor Londo but that fucker jumped through the main door and fucked me up
>>335120726
I mean, I'm sure they'd probably get tired of the fictional scenario you created, but since that's not really what we deal with in the game I don't think so, no.
>>335121987
>It's a "doesn't know about calamity and skull ring" episode
nah dont really need them, already started a sl1 run, that works too
>>335120609
The one in the Grand Archives is worse because you can't cheese him.
>>335122118
I cheeses both of them two. The one in Anor Londo loses aggro pretty easily. I just ran back up the stairs and around the other way and could walk him behind him unnoticed. Four R2 machete smashes and it was dead.
>>335120726
>which it can randomly pause or extend to fuck you up
Here is a protip. If you're in range he'll do his entire combo. If you're not he'll stop it at some point.
>it's another rapier user episode
>>335122118
you can cheese him on the stairs. You should still be able to shoot is legs even when he is right up against the wall.
I reserve my right to cheese the fuckers with arrows. they give me the heebie jeebies
>>335122298
>going to fight an invading phantom armed with a thrusting weapon in an a narrow area
you asked for it. should have just waited the fucker out, kill that silver knight while you're at it
>>335122298
Rapiers are easy as fuck to counter, just roll away or back step when they spam R1 and get the easiest parry of your life, or just use a fucking spear.
>>335122298
rekt
>>335120609
What's the best PVE skill weapon?
I'm tired of Uchigatana
>>335122298
that was the host being utter shit and you know it
>>335122298
>know they are around corner
>run diectly into them and close any distance that gives you an advantage with a greatsword
>initiate a swing that was bound to hit the wall being completely unaware they could have countered just by walking to the side a little
>attempting another swing after a roll when they're still right in front of you
You did fucking everything wrong.
>>335122489
Smough's hammer
>>335122298
No matter what weapon, if you get hit your only option is pretty much to roll away or you get raped.
>>335122298
Bwah, why isn't my huge slow sword good in an area with no room to move. And it's so damn easy to parry rapier users.
>>335122536
Come on man its str and not even the best str weapon
>>335122265
The black bow of pharis would like a word with you from way over here.
>>335122606
I'm just fucking around, but by skill did you mean like it actually takes skill to use effectively, calling Dex skill for some reason or the weapon art?
>>335120750
>>335120842
Nah, that would be that crocodile-thing guarding the bridge. It has attacks that cover both it's sides, his back, it has more than one gap closer and can combo, 100x more aggresive than both those bosses.
>>335122390
>>335122529
That wasn't me, I saved this webm in another thread, and rapiers are definitely too aggressive as they are now, regardless of the situation on the webm.
>>335122717
I meant dex
>>335122717
I assume he's talking about Dex-weapons. I'm interested too.
Katanas might be alright, but doesn't seem to be my thing. Are there any good weapons with the dashing skill?
>>335122720
>that crocodile-thing
Fuuuuck those things.
>that covenant guarded by two of them
I didn't want that achievement anyway
>>335122746
No idea, I never bothered with dex builds.
I'm doing a new run with a quality build, I'm using the lucerne for the most of the playthrough, but I need a sidearm, are there any piercing weapons that isn't rapiers that would fit my freelancer look?
Pike is my third weapon
>>335122845
ornstein's spear
Any boss soul weapons good or at least fun to mess around with? I've only gotten the dancers twin blades and they're ok. The weapon art seems useless though, really weak unless I'm doing something wrong.
>>335122823
Aggro them, climb half way up ladder, wait till they are bunched up beneath you and then drop and plunge attack
then repeat until dead
>>335122894
Read thinking of something of the lighter sort, already have to pole weapons
>>335122976
none of the boss weapons are good, don't bother
>>335122979
I've got a pole you can use
*unzips greatlance*
>>335122978
That seems better than my idea of luring out one, get minimal room to move around, and just learn every single tell and ability through death. It was frustrating
>>335122979
Warpick
>>335123017
Yhorm's Great Machete and the Profaned Greatsword are amazing.
>>335122978I broke down and used a trainer.Pls no bully.
>>335120609
Wait, it was already pathetic when people were claiming uchi-guy was hard to beat, but now this thing? God damn why do you people suck so much?
>>335123063
I liked the greatlance in 2,it's so weird that they included one weapon with that moveset. Too bad they put it so late game
>>335123214
Astora greatsword has the lance charge
Its pretty kickass
>>335123138
dark sword swings faster than both, doing more damage in 2 hits than 1 in either of those
>>335123180
But why anon?! It's not impossible to beat, and trainers are a slippery slope.
I expected more of you. Please apply yourself more in the future
>>335123272
Yeah, it's a cool move,but ,you know ,it isn't a Lance made for jousting. It's a big sword
solo'd it first time git gud fag
I'm at the cathedral and I'm scared.
The health draining is making me paranoid.
I bought like 8 homeward bones.
I want to explore and not die.
noob here. can someone tell me what to do when being invaded?
I don't know where the fuck the guy is, and I can't seem to use bonfires. what the fuck am I supposed to do? can I end this bullshit somehow?
>>335123346
Sorry anon-Sama but I just got fed up after so many attempts and wanted to move on.I used it on the Nameless King too.I should just uninstall it at this point.
>>335123505
Either shoot the jailers from far away or kill them before they can react to you.
>>335123508
it doesnt matter if you dont know where he is since he is the one who is supposed to find you
>>335123505
I hate that place so god damn much. You can move out of their Los and wait for the bar to regain it's length, heal up and kill them asap
>>335122298
OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED
>>335123606
I see.
Only issue is that I'm on a STR build. But I might have enough Dex for a bow/crossbow.
The other part that makes me paranoid (this area is really good for that) is the graveyard and the respawning zombies. I have to run past them now and try to avoid being ganked. Definite dick move combining these two together.
>>335120609
>be me
>pretty shit at the game
>die lots
>reach this guy
>dodge his attacks and assfuck him
How have you NOT gotten good yet?
>>335123559
Anon, I'm not angry, just disappointed in you. You'll get more pleasures in life when you work hard for them. Cheating doesn't just ruin it for you, but for every single hardworking anon out there. I'm sure you can do it without peddling with the devils software
is there any way to know how many times i died? it was possible in Des, DaS1 and DaS2 (not sure about BB) so why not in DaS3?
>>335123505
Just run up to the jailers and kill them. They're always either alone or just with other jailers so it's not as dangerous as you think. Also, you can use the Gwynevere ring to regen while you explore so you don't have to waste as many estus.
>>335123778
It's not a problem, my first character was STR. Dragonrider bow is really good for a STR character and I used Butcher's Knife as my trusty melee weapon. Really, at first I used an unupgraded Longbow with wooden arrows and still killed the jailers or at least aggroed them.
>>335123912
>You'll get more pleasures in life when you work hard for them
I think I'm missing whatever makes people feel like this. Aldrich took me like 15 tries and I was still mad after I beat him, that nigga I did legit.
>>335123936
>>335123926
Ah right. I'm going to have to track down the ring and bow then.
Well, I might just have a crack at it regardless. I do have 10 +2 etsus. I already made it to the catacombs but thought I'd go back and explore here since I missed out the boss in the previous area.
>>335123912
>pleasures in life
>working hard
...
>vidya
lmao senpai
>>335120609
>them crisp textures
>that AA
I fucking love bullshots
>>335123926
Speaking of Gwynevere, the one we saw was just an illusion in 1 right? Is she actually somewhere out there still alive?
>>335124121
Let me guess, you either from southern Europe or East Europe
>>335124098
Do try it. You can safely rush most of the jailers. There are some hollows in the cells, but the jailer should be dead by the time they're ready to do anything. There's that one room with three jailers, there you can use a bow to lure them up the stairs and kill them safely. Same applies with a later room.
>>335124156
>the one we saw was just an illusion in 1 right?
Yeah
>Is she actually somewhere out there still alive?
Yeah possibly.
>>335121004
>It's a giant armored knight-looking thing with a mace size of the player
>I'm going to stand in front of it and try to trade hits, surely that's going to work well
wew lad
>>335124156
I'm not sure if she's still alive in DaS3 but her ring's description says that she left her home, became a wife and raised a big family so it seems she lived a good life at least.
What's the best bow for a Dex-character? Pharis bow seems like an obvious choice, but I'm not seeing any real use for it's skill.
>>335124054
No trying to sound like most fuckers here being like "hurrrr u shit he so easy" but I don't understand the difficulty people encounter fighting Aldrich. He has very few attacks and can't do much once you're in range to hit him. The only problem I see is the arrow rain in phase 2 which is actually quite avoidable by just running without trying to cut corners
>>335123508
Fight him off. If you can't find him, just play the level and keep your eyes peeled. If you enter the boss room, the invader gets kicked out.
>>335124553
Shortbow is a lot of fun
>>335124553
The longbows skill is the only one worth a shit. Pharis is good for better dex scaling though, and has more range
>>335124553
Slap dark arrows on it, then try the skill out
>>335120609
>it's another dumb /tv/ memes thread episode
>>335122298
That's why you have a shield so you can PARRY
fuck rapier everytime
>>335120842
Pontiff is easy to done, just dodge to your right. Also he is way slower.
The irrithyl knights are pure crazy speed.
How the fuck do I infuse bows
>>335124845
You don't
>>335120750
That would be Champion Gundyr by far
>>335124553
I've done a bow only run, and composite is probably the best one, even though it has less dex-scaling then pharis. Other contenders are the dragoniders or the darkmoon.
Pharis' only real advantage is the range, but the skill is pretty good for bursting some dudes down combined with the range and some dark arrows.
>>335120726
Nothing in DS3 is anywhere near as bad as the giant mace-weilders in DS2 when comes to infinite stamina.
>>335124748
>>335124987
What's special about dark arrows, do they just do better damage? I can't try them out for some time yet.
What are some games that are actually difficult no matter what?
As opposed to the souls games where it's only dificcult if you deliberately cripple yourself by ignoring numerous prominent gameplay features, and have people tell you that you played the game wrong if you don't.
>>335124507
That depends on if she is Rosaria. Its left kind of unclear if she is though. She is heavily tied to her and her ending up being compleatly corrupted would fit the dark souls narrative.
>>335124996Jailers
>>335124610
The arrow rain is exactly what kept getting me. Everything else was easy honestly. Took me way too long to figure out how to avoid it properly.
>>335125318
Jailers aren't even close
I will never understand why people bitch about them, Jailers were a cool enemy with a neat gimmick but considering how much you have to fuck up for them to actually hit you and otherwise can't kill you, how do you have a problem with them?
>>335125102
They home in on enemies you're locked on to
Useless in PvP, but neat nonetheless
>>335125185
lol
>>335125448
Sounds neat, but I guess they don't home very well if they're useless in PvP. I might go Longbow/Dragonrider bow then, puncture sounds good against shield-users.
>>335125102
>>335125448
This, and dark damage is pretty good, not many thing's seem to resist it
>>335125374
I don't, but they make clearing the dungeons a chore, that fucking room with them circling around forces you to kill them one by one, if you rush it you're fucked.
It's worthy of a "that fucking level" thread.
>>335125185
castlevania 3
>>335124996
>Oh man, it's one of those big enemy with telegraphed slow attack for sure
>I'm just going to roll past his swings and counterattack that bitch
>tfw you ran out of stamina
>tfw he's still going
Ancient Dragon was a fucking shit boss too.
Fuck everything in that area.
>>335124495
>>335124507
Well at least it sounds likemy waifudidn't end up in as bad a situation as most other people.
>>335125374
Agree, they went quite vanilla regarding enemy placement for these ones. They did so many vicious enemy encounters before that I was expecting a more creative use of the jailers to put the player in hard situations
>>335125623
>playing Scholar
>decide I don't want to fuck with them
>mfw the dragon fuckers chase you if you don't kill the Giants
Fuck that place
>>335125597
No that game is just SHIT
>>335125951
No, anon. You're just SHIT at it.
Do you guys summon grapists and/or do you play as one? What do you tend to do when summoned with a soapstone?
I'm done couple runs that I help the host kill enemies and generally progress. Until the host/white phantom is taking heavy damage or nearing the boss, then I'll try to finish them and get my kill.
>>335125801
Imagine if the enemies didn't despawn in that game. How fucking atrocious it would be to face the Ancient Dragon.
Good thing I killed the shitter in one try. Just equip all the fire resistant items and run to its tale everytime it takes fly. The vanilla taught me that much.
>>335125652
More creative use huh.
You mean like this?
>summon for dancer
>they die at second form
pls, you dont need dps, just survive to draw aggro for a few swings
>>335126230
Add a bunch of those faced dog-things on the lower level so you can actually die and we're golden.
>>335126338
>dog things
No anon, you can do better.Silver Knights.
>>335125652That one room with the two invisible jailers. Thank you messages.
>>335125374
unavoidable damage
>>335126475
Goddamn, I nearly shat my pants there. I wanted to check the window, but couldn't get there for some reason. So I decided to swing my weapon and suddenly there's two jailers in front of me.
I left a message there too, saying "stealth!".
>>335126338
>>335126427
Holy fuck do I suck at drawing.
>>335126427
Even better, those ninja skeletons that throw kukuris
>>335126691
Now we're talking. Put one of those ice sword using things and two tree-wielding giants from the swamp near the exit and nothing gets through.
>>335125203
Rosaria may also just be a descendant of Gwynevere. The Dancer is implied to be one, so Rosaria could be another and that could the extent to their relationship. Or she could be Gwynevere, who knows really
>>335126230
More like for example fighting a big fucker with a shield in a narrow corridor with a jailer or two standing right behind him
>>335126579
at no point is the damage unavoidable, through proper pulling, use of LoS, stealth or just sprint and poking you should be able to kill them without taking any damage. it requires planing and a bit of skill, but in no way is it unavoidable (although it will probably fuck you up once or twice before you work out what's actually happening).
I still feel those infinite stamina mace knights in DS2 were far worse
>>335120609
>lure him to the area entrance
>dash to the door
>open it
>the crack is too small for him to get out
>wait for him to charge at the door, get stuck, then hit him with a heavy attack
>repeat until dead
you guys are casuals
Only battle I thought was unfair was Twin Princes. So now I invade anyone in the area and fuck them up while they try to cross the bridge. Gotta love me!
>>335127051
Or just lead him back to the elevator and make him fall through the hole in the ground.
Even easier.
>>335126794
The thing with the ice sword is out of vision so you can't see it when until it's jumping down on the top of your head.
>>335126925
Ah.
>>335122298
This is you right now.
>>335122845Worst sister.
>>335127428
Holy fuck calm down satan
>>335127428
Beautiful
>>335122298
>SMASSSSHHHH :'D:'D DAT FUKKEN R1 BUTTON :'D :'D:'D:'D:'D:'D:'D:'D
I accidentally gave the Firekeeper her eyes back and she asked me if I wanted to let the fire fade and I said no. What happens now?
>>335122298
>mfw R1 R1 R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1R1 R1 is the most effective PvP tactic now
Thanks Bloodborne
>That jump and grab spamming goat demon variety
>nothin' personnel skeleton ninjas
>Knight Slayer Tsorig
>Parry Spammer Hodrick (final encounter with Sirris, aka 1 shot ville)
>The fucking niggers that pop out of hollows that render you deaf while spazzing with their infinite poise hard to fucking see combo because they take the entire fucking screen and it's hard to see the black on black limbs especially in consumed nigger garden
>>335127925
I think you can still get both normal endings. I said no too, but went for that ending anyway.
>>335127428
Put Regis just after the exit and it's perfect
Fuck this fucking guy.
I've been trying for two hours and can't even get him to half health.
I just can't dodge his fucking attacks and if you make even one mistake you are dead because he 2shots me. All those fucking lightning res rings don't do shit.
And don't even get me started about the RNG bird phase where the camera is so fucked up it was the cause of 80% of my deaths.
>>335123194
>uchi guy was hard to beat
who said that? literally killed him first time i saw him.
>>335127991
>That jump and grab spamming goat demon variety
HOLY FUCK
AND OF COURSE *HIS* HITBOX IS GONNA BE PERFECTLY MADE SO IF HE'S IN THE AIR YOU CAN'T HIT HIM AND INTERRUPT HIS JUMP ATTACK
>>335128078Don't use lock-on when you're dodging the birds attacks.
>>335128078
The worst thing you can use on him is a GS. Either use a fast weapon with the highest AR, or the heaviest weapon and try to stagger lock him as much as possible. You could always go full bitch mode and rob yourself out of the experience by using a greatshield though.
>>335127991
>>That jump and grab spamming goat demon variety
No seriously who the fuck designed them ?
>>Knight Slayer Tsorig
Fuck him too btw
>>335127991
>Those little niggas who pop out of nowhere in the Cathedral and gang rape you
>Anything that throws firebombs
>Spin2Win bitches and their frosty variations
>>335128168
most of the enemies have i-frames while jumping. it's not funny. I think only the Gargoyles can be hit while mid-air, but they're technically not jumping.
>>335128245
>Rob yourself out of the experience because you'll not experience the same thing as me and my 50lbs dark assassin class femboy
So is sorcery still not viable in DS3?
When he first spoke I thought he sounded like Idris Elba.
>>335128205
I'm trying not too. But then I can't see shit. The fly up and breathe fire attack is fucking unavoidable if you don't see which direction he's pointing at and you can't even lock on on him properly for that. Other times the bird would move it's head back, which would make the game kick you out of lock on instead of turning you around which is then followed by a spear in the back every single time. Other times he just does the horizontal fire which is extremely easy to punish. Sometimes it staggers for critical sometimes it doesn't.
>>335128245
I'm using aClaymore. I gave up on blocking and just try to dodge everything. I know when my opening are I just can't, for some reason dodge his attacks. I had no real problems dodging other bosses. Abyss watchers and Dancer took me like 3 tries.
>>335128616
So what's the deal with this fag?
His arm is in the position as if he was holding a baby and you can even hear the cries in his second phase but what the fuck is all that about?
>>335128515
Butthurt greatshield user detected. Just go to the boss area and check the summon signs. Every fucking casual retard is naked with havel's GS + their choice of scrub weapon (broadsword, estoc, dark sword) because it's the easiest way to cheese the fight. Using greatshields on Nameless is the same as parrying Gwyn, it's the bitch way out.
>>335128670
It's the first phase that's really hard, once he starts using lightning bolts there are a lot more openings to land attacks and regen stamina if you dodge the bolts. Problem with using shit like claymore is that you're doing the same damage as a straight sword, but slowers, with more stamina. Stamina management is the key to Nameless, since his attack window is literally a single swing with anything larger than a straight sword, or 2 straight sword swings.
>>335128670
I just beat this guy last night for my first time. I used the Wolf Knight Greatsword. The best advice I can give you is maybe put on the ring that increases i frames of rolling. Also something important, is always stay on the RIGHT side of THE BIRDS neck. If you do that, he will commonly start using the flamethrower thing giving you a good 3 or 4 free hits.
Also make sure you are 100% safe in the 2nd phase before healing, he will fuck you over if you try to heal.
>>335122845
warpick? doesn't look stylish though. estoc looks good but its a meme now.
>>335128730
OCELOTTE
REEE
>>335128670
Greatswords are fine, your real problem is dodging, and the tricky thing with NK is just that you have to learn to delay your rolls otherwise he'll smash you down at the end of them anyway. It can be a bit hard to get used to but really, all you can do is keep trying.
I for one did much better against him with a greatsword (artorias GS) than I did with a long sword. This "longsword is just as strong" meme is retarded and mostly comes from people who don't know how to use slower weapons.
>>335129114
SNAAAAAAKE
BROTHERRRRRR
>>335129204
t. max vigor estus chugger
>>335128730
>he doesnt have eyes on the inside
>>335128740
Yes of course fedoraman, Using the weak-point of your ennemies are the bitch way to do things.
I just hope you didn't kill wolnir by breaking his bracelets, kill the dragon by one shoting him by jumping off the ledge, kill Yhorm with the storm weapon and I sure do hope that you don't use any weapons that the game offers you by the way, I can maybe accept caestus. :^)
>>335128740
get out of here rudeboy, greatshields are great
>>335129412
Why is pepe so drawable and likable? Is he a god?
>>335128596
No one?
>>335129596
Where do you get Tarkus' armor?
>>335129713
kill the guy wearing it in smoldering lake
>>335129347
I had a quality build with vigor, endurance, str and dex all at 25 when I did this fight. A fully upgraded wolf knight's greatsword did something like 100-150 more damage than a lothric knight sword and it was way more effective at bringing down the dragon with its longer reach vertical strikes, that whole phase became effortless with the GS. I also got to stun NK twice with it fairly quickly and for all the free hits you get while he's stunned it was over before I knew it.
>>335129801
Probably missed him, then. Thanks.
>>335129204
imo put all your weapons except longsword and greatsword away, first phase use longsword second phase use greatsword for the stagger.
First phase you use the longsword cause its easy to get frustrated over the chicken swinging its neck around all over the fucking place. And youre basically gonna be humping it anyway when its grounded. Second phase you use the GS for the stagger.
>>335129817
the thing is, with how slow greatswords are, you do a bit more damage but not enough to make up for the nearly 2 swings that faster weapons get for every one of yours. straightswords/thrusting swords are faster and safer, and the damage is comparable, the only thing big weapons have left is range and maybe stunning bosses, but you can do that with R1 spam anyways.
>>335127951
with a fast weapon it was always like this
>>335129840
its on the way to disable the ballista, before the black knight
>>335129713
buy it from the shrine maiden after killing the tarkus in smouldering lake, he's down near the lava lakes and the basilisks. if you go to the bonfire right next to the fog door and then backtrack it's right across the bridge, i think.
>mfw I ran from the frost dude and he fell into the elevator shaft
>>335129817
I used a LKS and still stunlocked him twice (the riposte killed him actually). I don't think it really matters that much, the big issue is, as you noted, getting the timing for dodging right because a lot of his moves have a small delay. although he's still got a couple of quick moves to fuck you if you simply delay all your rolls. You've really just got to learn the fight
>>335127428
switch half of the jailers on the top with spinny wheel skeletons and throw in two of those nothing personnel ninja skeletons in front of the swamp monsters that look like rayman guys. Then it will be perfect
>>335130045
I disagree. I prefer going for two GS hits than four LS hits. It's easy to get caught away in R1 spam and find yourself eating shit because you hit R1 one time too many, with the GS I find that each hit is much more controlled and I have a much easier time telling if I'll be able to sink in one more hit or not. On top of that you've got the superior stagger effects and reach, and generally speaking, with a greatsword, I think you'll adapt better to rolling over guarding which is ultimately the more efficient way to play.
>>335127428
As soon as you take a few steps down that hallway, have a skeleton ball drop behind you.
Why did they bother to even include magic in DS3? It's completely useless and gimped because everything is in your face 24/7
>>335124948
this, gundyr is so aggressive I think i got a nosebleed mid fight
>his anime punch combos where he zooms across the map and smashes you down
>mfw champion gave me more trouble than any boss yet
>on the 17th attempt i took off all of my armor and shield, and rolled around in nothing but a loincloth
>i discovered i HAD learned his entire moveset by heart, could see all of his telegraphs, predicted his shoulder, and pushed his fucking shit it
fuck you gundyr
currently working nameless king and he seems much easier, if it weren't for the two-phase bullshit
>invade the archives after finishing the game
>get into a seemingly empty word, mobs are untouched
>spend 30 minutes searching for the host
>pass 10 other invaders meanwhile killing themselves or returning because they can't find the host
>run back to the start of the level
>notice some shiny stuff on those ladder things
>its the host and his friend curled up
>they jump down after I hit them and start applauding me for finding them
>host runs in circles around us while his friend does a one-combo-kill on me with the dancer's sword
Wish there were more players like these, most of the time I only get shitters with 2 additional summons escorting his ass
>>335130287
>tfw the wheel skeletons in DaS3 were shit
>>335130669
pyro is strong tho
>>335130672
>"alright, he exhausted his move, time to puni-"
>shoulder charge
>>335123313
But Anon, that's why I use Yhorms +5 in one hand and Heavy Dark Sword +10 in the other
>>335130841
Except dps wise it's not
>>335130828
they just weren't the ruinous stunlocking nightmares of DS1
it was charming how fucking destructive and terrifying those things were, but come on. I think DS3 wheelies are a fun and reasonable enemy. Maybe they could do a bit more damage, but at least they're there.
>>335130672
He reminded me too much of that Akira using Akio AI in VF
>bait him back to the elevator
>send the lift up
>watch the idiot fall in the bottomless pit
being a tricky cunt is fun
i killed Champion Gundyr and was told that Artorias' Armor set is sold by shrinemaiden after killing him but its nowhere to be found. what do?
>Sup, I heard you like getting 1 shotted if I touch you at all
>>335131638
it's sold by the handmaiden in the shrine after CG. not your own handmaiden.
>>335131664
"Why not lie down for a while?"
>>335122978
I tried that but it never seemed to work out well so I just used a greatsword and would stun them and heal.
>>335131638
look in the dark shrine, not your regular one.
>>335131708
>>335131761
fuck, i gotta trudge through those fucking black knights again...
thanks
>>335131664
>My friend and I are invisible by the way
>>335131913
don't forget that enemies can't go through boss doors. Most of the time. Dragonslayer Armor seems to be a painful exception.
>>335131664
>tfw still the best
>>335128078
Well I did it. Put on some gear with ok lightning res to scrap a few pixels of health and just was very patient and mostly punished for his fly in the air and jump on you attack because I found it to be the easiest to punish.
Managed to pull out an ember and adivine blessingout of my inventory without him killing me somehow
Is there a DS3 boss that hasn't been complained about yet? Which boss is fucking impossible to die to?
>>335132073
Tree is pretty easy.
>>335123214
>I liked the greatlance in 2
You're a cool guy
>>335132073
Tree, Deacons and Yhorm
>>335132256
>>335123214
anyone who used a lance in 2 is a shitter
>>335132323
>anyone who used a lance in 2 is a shitter
Thanks.
>>335120609
There are plenty of opportunities to attack whilst he's busy doing one of his 10+ hit combos in the wrong direction.
Add to that the fact that he has small health pool. I never really had much trouble with these guys.
>>335132425
>Maldron the Assassin
Of all the NPCs in DaS3 I was seriously hoping that they would work that dick in somehow. He was such a fucking terrible shitter that it was beautiful to experience.
>DS1
>there was a widely recognised meta
>but you could still build a dumb character and do well with him
>if you were good you could win with a fun gimmick
>it took effort and skill to get a low level darkwraith twink
>DS2
>absolutely incredible amount of variety
>can build anything
>use any weapon
>power stances
>could stunlock people with the right combo
>first weapons were good
>backstabs and ripostes actually did more damage than 2 R1 hits
>DS3
>rolling costs no stamina
>estus is unpunishable
>longswords and thrusting swords are broken beyond belief
>backstabs do no damage
>riposte only does damage with a rapier & leo ring
>changes to poise means that you can roll out of any attack after 2 hits, no matter the weapon
>fist weapons and claws do so little damage they might as well do 0
>weapon upgrades tied to matchmaking means you can't overcome the host advantage with a better weapon
>all damage is flat
>fights take forever
>just roll spam into estus chug back into roll spam
>meta is already incredibly stale and pvp is less fun than any souls game in less than 2 weeks
Putting aside the changes to invasions and phantom advantages, the pvp just isn't as fun as DS1 or 2. There's no unique or fun things to do because you just get annihilated by a longsword.
>>335132125
i probably died on that boss more times than most of the other bosses
If i finished my Questline with Yuria and Anri and then use the Rebirth from Rosaria's Fingers will i fail the quest anyways? the Wiki says you fail an NPC quest but doesn't state which one or if its randomly chosen.
>>335132592
Let's pray that they will include him on the dlc.
>>335132691
Only Sirris fails when you join fingers.
I might wanna do a character like pic related at some point.
Closest weapon would be a whip and a dagger or a small sword.
Any recommendations for weapons and armor set? I doubt there's a maid set, but is there anything even remotely like that?
>>335132762
thanks, i only remember talking to that person once, lol.
>Get invaded
>Use white tree branch to hide in plain sight
>Walks past me several times until he rage quits
>Even though I have cinders basically shooting out of me
>Proceeds to call me an Alt-f4er on my profile
Being a master of disguise is pretty fun sometimes.
One of the most annoying things to me about the game is that no matter how much I upgrade weapons and put points into stats,sometimes enemies will survive my attacks with a pixel of health. Sometimes I can 2 shot enemies and I learn to rely on that but then suddenly there's the same enemy surviving with a pixel of health. it happened more times than I can count.
I started caring throwing knifes for that reason.
>>335132653
PvP in souls games have always been shit and I never understand how people can take it seriously.
It would be decent if you actually interacted with the opponent as you see them, but instead it's endless guessing game where the lag put their hitboxes this time.
>>335132967
>invade
>harass somebody's with greatarrows and the obscuring ring
>host continues through the level and I can't escape before he sees me
>white branch up, turn into an object
>he runs right past me several times
>creep behind him when he goes through a door
>he comes out as I'm creeping and I freeze up in the middle of the room
>there's a moment of confused silence as he looks at me
>don'tmovedon'tblinkdon'tbreath
>eventually turns around and continues on
>keep peppering him with greatarrows
I fucking love chameleon when the game is new and everybody and their great grandma hasn't memorized the placement of every single item in the game.
>>335120726
This.
I've started thinking that the game would be better if rolling still took stamina down but when you were out you could still roll since there are so many enemies that are just endless R1 spam.
Dodging endless R1 spam is fun and pretty easy, but not when it just carries on past the point that you can physically do anything about it.
>>335122287
Not that guy, but that doesn't always apply, especially not with bosses. The twin fuccbois especially pissed me off with that as the two, three, and four swing combos all had the same animations and there were no tells as to when he'd use which.
>>335130828
Yeah but the point is that you can only survive one hit since you are running low due to jailer health sap. And it'll bring back fond memories like
>>335131061
is saying.
>>335133242
That shit works on me even when I'm familiar with the place as I'm slow enough for anyone to get an edge over me with that shit.
>Dark Souls 2, the first bell tower.
>Run around trying to find an invader.
>Run to the tiny bridge outside.
>Sudden moment of realization "wait! that thing is not supposed to be there"
>Falling down.
>>335133198
pvp was fun in 1, amazing in 2 and just boring in 3.
I'm not one of these honobru 1v1 no estus dudes. I just wanna fight and have fun and the amount of ways you can have fun in ds3 is almost none.
>>335133242
I break anything breakable on my way through a level so if I see a prop I know its the invader.
Hiding in plain sight as a host is super effective though, since nameplate doesnt show for invaders you can crouch behind a wall or in some bushes and be completely hidden
I did sprawl out in some deep water once and the red literally couldnt find me
>>335127951
The only people who die to R1 spam are absolute retards who try and outmash someone mid combo. You can NEVER get combo'd for more than two swings at a time, EVER. Anything past that is you being shit or your opponent outskilling the fuck out of you.
>>335126148
In the original DS2 I figured out a run that would get me to the boss fog every time without getting hit and not killing anything. It took maybe 10 minutes of experimentation. So it's definitely possible, just tedious.
Why didn't they include some of the actually cool things from DaS2?
Where's the dual wield variety?
Where are bonfire ascetics?
Where's the hardmode covenant?
>>335128078
>Bird flies up to do the aoe breath attack
>Start sprinting away the second the fucker leaves the ground
>Still get hit
FUCKING
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Boss only took me like 3 tries but holy FUCK that attack is so god damn annoying.
How do I counter rapier or Farrons greatsword with a longsword+ shield?
In the first case I guess I can try parrying.
>>335129412
>>I just hope you didn't [...] kill the dragon by one shoting him by jumping off the ledge
>Read the messages, instantly know its a gimmick fight where you one shot him doing some stupid bullshit
>tfw I spent like 10 min baiting fire breaths and punching his neck anyways
>>335134643
>parrying rapier
>not just getting hit another 2 times because it attacks so fast
>>335129590
>Full black iron + greatshield
How much fucking vit do you have? Or are you just fat rolling everywhere?
>>335134819
i had 35 or so in the pic, and no, i wasn't fat rolling
>>335123791
Nobody over the age of 20 either starts a conversation with >be me, nor takes seriously people that do.
Try writing a paragraph without quoting if you want people to reply to you seriously.
He's not too bad. I got him down first try.
>>335134932
>over the age of 20
>on a video game board
Pathetic desu. There's no fucking way I'll be a manbaby playing video game when I finish HS.
>>335133084
Ds2 had the same, enemies will randomly decide to negate fatal blows
Like if an enemy has 25% and my r1 does 75% of his health normally he does not survive an r1 at 25% unless he literally cheats like that.
>b-but sweetspot-
No, I hit the enemy with the same part of the weapon that did 75% of its health, its not a matter of not hitting the sweetspot. The AI just cheats.
Speaking of cheating AI
>fighting Tsorig
>try to kick his shield away
>frame perfect input read backstep away from kick into perfectly trackig backstep attack that magnetically tracks me and pancakes my ass for the kill
>Hodrick parry spam
How is no one complaining about the crablords in the swamp? I had a harder time with them than this faggot
>>335134491
He doesn't even do that attack if you don't go under him. And if he does it while you around the neck level you have plenty of time to get out of the AOE.
In other words, stop hitting the fucking legs.
As a phantom I dreaded the times when the host went for the legs.
>>335122489
Try the Sellsword Scimitars. Tonnes of fun.
>>335135146
Because nobody bothered fighting them.
>>335135242
>stop hitting the fucking legs
I wasn't hitting the legs you gaylord, I was exclusively attacking his neck. And whether you choose to believe it or not, sprinting the second he flew up would still not give me enough time to avoid the breath; the only time it did was when I was summoned for the fight and the fire breath was targeted on someone else.
>Just beat the last boss
Oh man that was a nice payoff. Such a cool concept for a boss.
Also I felt like I had a worse grasp on the story this time than in the other games.
>Dark Souls is basically and endless loop of kingdoms rising up and people rekindling the first flame over and over
>Time to do that again
>But this time people who linked it before come back alive and you have to kill them first?
Why? Is this different from any other theoretical cycle?
>>335132653
>>fist weapons and claws do so little damage they might as well do 0
Nigga I'm destroying people in PvP with Caestus only. No magic, no cheap tricks, just resin and a good ol' fisting.
But seriously, the Caestus is amazing when built for quality. The running L1 has deceptive range and can punish backwards rolls half the time, the damage isn't something to shrug at (although of course it isn't at the same level as most of the heavy weapons) and it can somewhat effectively counter some current meta weapons.
Just make sure you go quality with the Caestus though. The A scaling it gets when heavy infused isn't as good as the C scaling in both str and dex when refined infused.
>>335135694
>Wow these demon fists sure are radical!
>They're fucking garbage (like nearly every single non normal weapon) because infusions are too strong to pass up
T-thanks
>>335135797
Yeah, no, don't go with the demon fists no matter how cool they are and how much damage they seem to do on paper. Caestus or bust.
>>335135146
I never have problems with them when they're alone. Just strafe right or left and roll when they do a slam. if you stay a specific distance it'll continuously do only 2 moves, the right/left claw smash and water jet spray.
>>335130669
>2016
>fifths souls game
>you still cant aim magic
>magic is still consists entirely of shooting different colored balls for all 4 schools
>you now even have to compromise important healing item for magic use even if your prefered magic schoold doesnt have healing spells
>even with heavy investment into stats you still do considerably less DPS than someone who just dumps all points into VIG and spams r1 with rapier
when will these assholes learn?
>>335135573
each time the flame is relit it's weaker and warps timespace even harder, it also requires stronger and stronger souls each time. Nobody might be able to link it anymore at all because you beat the soul of cinder which was EVERY soul that linked the flame combined.
>>335135573
The only person who linked the flame before you in Dark Souls was Gwyn.
>>335120609
Some OC
>>335135954
>frogposting
>all magic is blasters
>important healing item
>DPS
please go
>>335136135
muh
>>335135694
I found the caestus does maybe 70 damage a hit compared to the 200-300 of the current best swords in the game.
You can only hit twice because they ruined the poise system from DS2 so you can't stunlock people
dual wielding does *less* damage somehow than a regular R1 hit, despite attacking twice, and then you can only do that once because of the bad poise system.
How can you say they're amazing?
>>335135093
just cheese the AI invaders, they're bullshit, especially when you start going into NGs and they start one shotting you and shit
>>335136180
because their damage is so bad I lose myself in my anger and my mind turns into a maze shaped like a caestus
>>335136163
nice shitpost brah
>>335122978
>mfw I pulled two of those fuckers by accident and tried to GTFO only to killed while climbing the ladder
they have ridiculously retarded hitboxes, I swear every attack extends way behind and above them
>>335134081
you also cant parry mid combo. Its eat a few hits and then attempt another parry. With the speed of a rapier and the small parry window, only people looking to sound cool see it as a super easy counter. The estoc is OP.
>>335130730
>Iudex 6
>Wolnir 2
>Pontiff 0
???
>>335136469
hardest boss in the game is that room
>>335136718
I was so happy to find out that those don't respawn.
>>335120726
I love such things, defeating them give you a lot of satisfaction once you learn their combos.
>>335136180
>I found the caestus does maybe 70 damage a hit compared to the 200-300 of the current best swords in the game.
>I found the caestus does maybe 70 damage
>70 damage
Then obviously you haven't upgraded it fully or it's not quality infused. I constantly get 300 damage or so on opponents in pvp, and dual wielding is literally the only way to go. if you're talking about PvE though, yeah, it's definitely not the best weapon for that, but it's still alright.
>dual wielding does *less* damage somehow than a regular R1 hit, despite attacking twice, and then you can only do that once because of the bad poise system.
Try using perseverance (weapon art), then following up with a barrage of L1 attacks. Occasionally you'll get someone trying to spam attacks against perseverance and they'll get caught in a built up barrage which will sometimes kill them outright.
>>335132035
Jailers aren't even dangerous.
These fucking assholes stun you and run all the way over to one shot your ass.
>>335136980
What are your stats?
The thing I miss most is that first weapons in DS2 got their own kick which you could combo into attacks to catch people hiding behind shields.
Anyone use the kicking ring you can buy from Patches? Does it do anything fancy or is it just more stamina damage to blocking enemies?
how people find aldrich hard i will never understand.
Having estus halved when being summoned through red sign was a weird decision.
>>335137586
You can kick away greatshields, but it's only really useful in PVE against lance knights because noone uses a shield in pvp
>>335137586
Just stamina from what I could tell, no fancy animation
>>335137683
/v/ is shit at videogames.
They think Abyss Watchers is hard.
>>335137728
>>335137738
Bummer, it'd be neat if they'd get knocked back more or something.
>>335137467
Main stats are the typical ones: 40 Vigor, 40 Strength and 40 Dex, and like 25-30 in endurance and about 20 in vit or something. Caestus must be at the highest upgrade level you can manage and either quality or heavy infused early on. When you get to 115-120, your caestus MUST be quality infused to get the most out of it. Also make sure you run light armour (I'm running Lothric's hood and robe, and Shadow legs and gloves) both for the roll and speed, and for Flynn's ring. If you keep your weight around 20%, you'll reach about 300+ damage with the caestus thanks to flynns.
>>335137728
Shush, loads of shitters use a greatshield in PvP because they hate fun. Estoc and Havel's shield is utter cancer.
>>335138191
I've seen it 2 times in hundreds of invasions and they still manage to win because ripostes do no damage if you're not using the leo ring.
>>335122298
only shitters complain about rapier and longsword in pvp
you take out a shield and parry them period
>>335138380
Still, a good rule is to black crystal out whenever you see a greatshield, otherwise you subject yourself to a lucky win or a lifetime of turtling and poking.
>>335120609
you can run past it if you're too bad to beat it.
>Invade in DS1
>Occasionally find host and phantoms dancing around with the tridents in a field of prism stones
>Invade in DS3
>Everyone just lays there splayed out on the ground
Komm sûsser tod
>>335139761
>you will never experience this in ds3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPRCKdJKMsI
>>335139852
Holy shit Green Leaves!
Time to find my microphone to play some Karaoke.
>>335139852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d13fCKP6hB4
The best of times
>>335124553
Onislayer
>>335136469
That enemy is definitely a leftover B-team asset.
Yhorms Machete is literally the only weapon you need in this game
>>335120743
The set still looks great
>>335140524
i can't use weapons if i don't like how they look, and i hate how the machetes look
>>335128596
I've heard at like 60 int you can get good results but then you're sacrificing other stats so idek. I'm sticking with pyromancy and loving it though
>>335120609
>first phase
>stay under it and you're invincible
>second phase
>bait ice breath
WOW SO HARD
>pontiff knights
>>335145954
This is not Vordt you blind donkey.
Where the fuck is Anri?
>>335139761
>tridents
Do we have any joke weapons in DS3? I honestly can't think of any
>>335146568
>being oneshot by 868
He has nobody to blame but himself.
Who killed Yorl? Eygon?
>it's a shitter wearing the fallen knight set and using the irithyll straight sword episode
>>335147836
There's literally nothing wrong with fallen knight set.
Irithyll isn't bad either until catacombs or so.
I haven't seen anyone else mention this but was anybody else really impressed by the voice acting in Dark Souls 3? Some characters, especially Yoel have really, really good voice work.
>>335120726
>do people not get tired of this?
No because I leveled up my stamina to roll out of the way.
>>335147972
fallen knight is great fashion, why does everyone hate it?
>>335122298
>it's a katanafag episode
>>335120609
for the first one that you encounter, I was out of estus so I just went back up the elevator, he jumps down the hole and died.
GIT GUD OP
Im a huge dark souls scrub. i've played them all but Im very base level.
Im curious, is the firelink shrine from the first game supposed to be the same as 3? Whats the correlation? Or is it just in name only?
>>335148126
Basically, if it's a popular armor set or weapon, then it's shit according to mouthbreathers.
So is this the undead curse? Resorting to murder turns me into a nigger?
>>335148126
Easy to get a hold of, edgy and it looks nice enough that a lot of people use it.
If I had a Pale Tounge for every shitter I've killed who was wearing full Fallen Knight and wielding a straight sword and a Crest shield, I'd be the king of cunnilingus.
>>335127552
haha, the first thing that came to my mind
>>335147767
He dies by himself. You can affect the time a bit, but he always dies.
Whats a fun dex weapon to use?
Doing my second playthrough with rapiers but they are kinda boring compared to str weapons.
>invade someone near the Vordt fog gate
>the host has a greataxe and katanafag phantom summoned
>they miss every time as I guard break the turtling host with the lucerne
He easily could've just ran to the boss gate.
>>335148480
Now don't be badmouthing crest shield, it's a one sexy piece of equipment.
>mfw I missed the Crystal Sage and went straight to Farron and killed the Abyss Watcher
>mfw I attacked the priestess and fought Dancer before Yhorm
can anyone tell me how softban works?
I changed Value of some items, but I haven't got any messages like "YOU HAVE BEEN PENALIZED" or "INVALID GAME DATA HAS BEEN DETECTED".
people still can summon me, I can see summon signs but I rarely see them.
is this happening because of softban? or dark souls server is just being shit?
>>335148480
sounds like a decent build honestly. my first playthrough was knight gear plus grass crest and it worked nicely.
I'm planning on doing fallen knight for my 4th playthrough, using only the most edgy and over the top ridiculous weapons I can. Start every fight with some ridiculous artorias swing, pull out dual katanas and do anime jump
>>335148559
I beat the game with a pure Dex/End, Sellsword Twinblades, and Longbow.
Pretty fun, Carthus Bloodring is OP as shit.
I might try making a battlemage in the vein of pic related.
>>335147303
She's dead, Anon.
>>335148848
Nothing will beat Bloodborne for edgy builds. Going full Bloodtinge with Cainhurst armor, Chikage, and Evelyn with bone ash marrow is fun as fuck and fucking grossly overpowered in PvE and PvP.
>>335148559
You might find poking swords boring, but Estoc is literal easy mode.
I've also heard that scythes are fun again.
>>335123138
>being a slow weapons fag
>>335148693
missing crystal sage isnt that unusual.
however dancer before yhorm sounds like a pain
>>335148480
>If I had a Pale Tounge for every shitter I've killed, I'd be the king of cunnilingus
>beat first two bosses in one attempt with warrior
>get constantly assraped when using a dex character like merc
halp
>>335148951
Fuck that. She can't died before I kill her to get her sword.
>>335148986
Took me about 6 tries.
Why is it that bosses always seem easier on the first attempt? I swear I've gotten almost every boss down to a sliver but always choke and die. Then every attempt after seems like Omaha beach.
>>335148693
>mfw I killed Emma and the Dancer at like SL30 because I needed Greirat to come so back so I could buy a Zweihander from him
It was totally worth it too.
>Get him chasing me
>Back up to lift
>Step on button and jump backwards
>He swings at me and falls down the hole left by the lift
>No damage taken
It felt a bit cheesy because the room he's in was clearly set up for a fight, but why waste the effort when I can get him to one hit kill himself?
>Find big enemy
>Run through doors
>They cant follow me
>Burn them down with projectiles
Honestly From really should give some kind of ranged punish that procs anytime an enemy gets hit by a ranged spell. I remember one NPC would actually hit with me a throwing knife every time I started doing any animation at range.
>Mimic grab attack that turns insanely fast and has a massive hitbox
>Goat enemy who literally just spams grab over and over again
>Dragonslayer Armor with an attack that goes through the environment and knocks you back in an area where railings break
>The one knight on the way to the Dragonslayer Armor that sees you so far away that he barely loads in before he starts coming towards you
>Playing red light green light with the jailers
>Dragon at the start that can breathe fire up on top of where the bonfire is
>BRINGING BACK THE ARCHER KNIGHTS IN ANOR LONDO
Dark Souls please, I'm trying to have fun here.
>>335149105
I always kill every NPC on my first run becuase I don't know bupkis about the questlines anyway and I'm more focused on finding weapons/fashion souls/not dying to care.
>>335130730
Shit, I should've kept track of my deaths too, is there any death counter in game?
Are there any light cloaks in the game? Similar to the fallen knight set but without the edgy?
>>335149195
there's gonna be some nasty porn of Goatlegs McFacefuck
>>335122462
>backstep
Somebody thinks they're playing Dark Souls 2
>>335149195
>Mimic grab attack that turns insanely fast and has a massive hitbox
Just strafe on his nutsack and it can't get you. Two free hits.
Never EVER put range in between a Mimic and yourself or he'll roundhouse the shit out of your bowels.
>>335149137
i think its because you play solely of instinct rather than patterns that may or may not exist.
I always have the same experience, nearly win first try, get a stupid death, and either win next try or struggle for ages
>>335135954
>fifth
>>335148848
>>335148585
Problem is that for someone like me, who has a lot of stamina and a long poker, someone using a shield is basically just like them holding a big sign which says "KILL ME".
The facts are:
>1. If you block, I have more stamina to hit you than you have stamina to block me.
>2. I will be hitting you until you stagger once you've put that shield up.
>3. When you stagger, I have more than enough time to step forwards for that delicious visceral attack.
>4. After that, you will back off and try to heal, and even if you manage to do that, your playstyle which was dependent on a shield will prove useless, as this will just repeat itself until you've run out of Estus.
Shields provide a very false sense of security.
>>335149504
Weird I always found it easier for me to keep my distance and I never once got hit by his roundhouse, He misses that shit/goes through me everytime
>>335150085
This was true in old souls games, but being that R1 spam is the meta
>Opens the option to parry which is 99% successful when executed after a block
>Faking people out with blocks
>Blocking the first blow of a high speed weapon then rolling away is much more reliable then rolling away from it.
In DS3, shields have a drastically high skill ceiling.
If I wield one of those twin weapons like drang hammers, do I still get 1.5x strength when using it in both hands?
>play DS3 for a while
>exploring firelink shrine
>find Patches there, first time seeing him in the game
>he talks to me as if we've already met, apologizing for 'what happened'
>you even have the option to forgive him
It this meant to happen? I must have missed him before.
>people using estus after they summoned me for a duel
instant blackcrystal outta there, ffs
>>335150858
You missed him either in the tower or the cathedral.
>>335150858
Supposedly you're supposed to see him in Cathedral of the Deep, but I've never seen him myself.
>>335150858
He locks you in the tower with the firekeeper soul, you probably took the alt exit without noticing him.
He also pranks you in the cathedral near a giant.
>tfw stuck at Pontiff Sulyvahn
>>335150858
Might've locked the door on you if you went to explore the tower behind firelink. He locks the door behind you but if you already dropped down/went up the elevator you may not have even noticed. Otherwise he dicks you over in the Deacons area, but that one is a bit more obvious.
>>335151016
99.99% of the time they will do two rolls and estus.
>Cleave guy
>he rolls once
>Fireball
>Rolls second time
>Goes for the estus
>KERPOW THE BALL HITS HIM
>DED
Its a shame there are so few ranged punishes that work in DS3
>>335151081
Both him and phantom are harmless and vulnerable during summoning animation, so go crazy. Then finish off the phantom so he spends another 5 seconds summoning.
>>335151081
Throw a fire resistance ring on, learn to dodge his shit, wait until his combos are done before going in for hits, parry him if you can, and in his second form his duplicate tends to do the attack he's about to do so watch that for reference. Also, the duplicate can be killed. Not something you may want to focus on, but still useful since they often get caught in the same attacks since they stick close. And when he's summoning a new one after the initial one died you can get a shit ton of hits in.
>>335122823
Easy way to kill them.
You start in a small rectangular area that opens out into the giant room. BOTH aggro if you enter the wide area, so if you stay in the smaller box you don't aggro the second one.
Get one of them to come over to you using a bow. I used a greatbow.
Once I did that it was EZ. They don't respawn and a bonfire appears.
>>335122298
>chasing invaders
>>335150714
In my experience, shields always get put up because the player is confident he can tank a couple of hits from me, then strike back when I'm out of stamina.
Sure, some people might be able to use shields well, but the majority of shield users are probably playing their first souls game and unexperienced when it comes to rolling. I really get that impression from fighting them.
Also, the parriers always seem miss their first couple of parrys, which kind of ruins their advantage because then I'll just switch to baiting them.
>mfw I just killed 3 invaders in a row right after Sulyvahn's fight
You fuckers know that there's a stat that can increase your health, right?
>>335151465
You know they get a chunk of their health cut off and half the estus when they invade, right?
>>335127321
my nigga
that's my cheese
learned that shit at the bottom of Sinner's Rise in DS II
>>335151587
Nobody has any business running less than 804 health
>Get invaded in Lothric Castle right after Dancer fight
>Terrible at PvP but never want to disconnect
>They attack me right when I aggro one of the knights
>Kill the knight while dodging his stupid rapier R1 spam
>Keeps healing, eventually see him do the empty flask animation
>He runs away into the next hallway with two knights expecting me to follow him
>Stay put, he comes back occasionally peeking around the corner to see if I followed
>Just sit and wait
>Eventually starts throwing shit at me
>Comes back in with full health somehow and just spams R1
>Kill him
Christ almighty. This is why I can't stand PvP in this game. I've had a couple of fights where someone will come in and bow or empty their flask, to which I do the same. But some people just want to spend ten minutes running around hoping some random enemy will do their work for them.
>>335120726
>It's a tough DS1 enemy
>circle strafe and hit its but because it's way too slow
do people not get tired of this?
>>335151770
I feel ok with my base 550 health
THIS IS WHAT I WAS WEARING WHEN HE DIVE ATTACKED ME
TELL ME I ASKED FOR IT
Is there a Dex weapon that does blunt damage? I'm at catacombs and while uchi gets me through the enemies, I wouldn't mind more damage.
>>335152147
You feel OK knowing that a single mistake will always cost you your life
>>335152258
All damage values are pretty much the same. stay raw/fire until level 50dex then move to sharp and uchi will get you through the game.
>>335152073
Not that guy, but I always prefer an enemy that is somewhat predictable to an enemy that can seemingly lash out wildly without any pattern. With the first you can learn the pattern even if it is fast and then feel like you've mastered how to fight them. In the other case it's always a bit of a guessing game where you just wait for an opening and hope you stagger them or they don't choose to just instantly swipe you back. Very few "tougher" enemies in DS3 allow you to get more than one hit in before just whipping around and pushing your shit in.
>>335151937
I hear there is an item that makes enemies attack invaders which can help put a stop to that kind of faggotry but I have yet to come across it.
>>335152436
Seed of a Giant's Tree
It can spawn at the giant tree at Firelink up at the top fog gate/near patches/near the tower that you need the 20k key for
No idea the frequency but it's pretty high, I've been getting them every invasion or two. Currently have 10 and I haven't even fought Abyss Watchers yet on my second character.
>>335152307
>>335152147
20 vig is the sweet spot. Nothing in the game can one shot you but you also dont have wasted points
>>335152436
Seed of a Giant? Yeah, I found one before but otherwise nothing else. It helps but it's such a rare item seemingly that it's not a great counter.
It just frustrates me is all. You can always tell when an invader wants to fight or just win. If they dick around for ten minutes trying to oh so subtly bait you into running face first into another enemy they probably just want to win and get their prize.
>>335152373
Alright, maybe I'll upgrade a club or something then. Thanks
>>335122979
There's mail breaker but that dagger is garbage
>>335133470
Soul of Cinder is the best example of this bullshit, though not in the same way as the princes. It's simply that whenever SoC finishes a combo and you then attack him, he can randomly decide to counter with a fast single punishing attack that you can't do a fucking thing to avoid unless you're using a very fast weapon. It turns your survivability in the fight into a matter of RNG.
>>335152436
chances are you wont be invaded unless you are running with a gank squad, and even if you do you have twice the estus he does
You have to be bad at DS3 to get killed by an invader.
>>335149137
this holy fuck.
>get a boss down to near no health first try
>well it was difficult, but a bit easy I'll get it for sure now that i know what phase 2 and move sets are like
>get fucking destroyed
that shit happened with me with nameless king. nearly killed him my first run when i had only 3 estus for when i fight him one on one. then every attempt after was hell
>Pontiff Sulyvahn just keeps attacking and attacking
>>335152821
Parry you retard.
>>335152950
I'm 2-Handing a Claymore
>>335152164
kek, with that health it doesn't matter, you'd survive any weapon's dive attack.
>>335152821
>he always misses
>>335152624
i think one drops every time you kill an invader. i'm on NG3 and while i'm working through an area i just pop dried finger and the seed and take it slow. i usually end up killing like 5 or 6 invaders without even seeing them, it's pretty funny.
>>335153031
Then equip a cestus in the left hand and be flexible.
>>335153031
You should have found a small shield by the time you hit pontiff and they sell them at firelink all day. PARRY. HIM.
>>335153037
That was the idea. I get getting invaded while trying to invade and I didn't feel like making the run to Uldrich. So I decided to give them a free dive attack and then fight them with whatever I had left.
Unfortunately I was still winning so I ended up just jumping off the top anyway.
I two shoted Dancer, Gundyr took me around 30 minutes to one hour.
However, I was stuck on Pontiff for 3 hours and in the end just cheesed with pyromancies. Am I the only one who struggled with this one in particular? Irirthyll is a beautiful location, probably my favorite, but holy shit that difficulty jump.
>>335153356
Thats not what two shot means
>>335150085
>visceral
Fuck off Sonygger
>>335120609
>its a just go outside and hit him from there episode
why do invaders get less health when invading?
>>335153963
>It's an episode episode
>>335120726
>Dark souls 2 got a nice balance of on crack assault vs slow retard
>But instead phantom ranges your ass out
FROOOOOM
>>335154083
To end invader privilege, ****lord.
>>335154083
Because they can hide behind enemies.
>>335154375
>seed
>>335120726
what are pontiff knights?
>>335153356
you mean you second attempted dancer
unless you took out all of the bosses health in 2 hits
>>335154083
You're not supposed to be the host's equal. You're an environmental hazard. A mid-boss. You have to deal with the host. He has to deal with you and the entire rest of his journey to the next bonfire.
>>335154442
you can stagger them to death easily and backstab them
time to git gud
>>335154442
just stunlock them
>>335154375
And then hosts hide behind phantoms, that parts somewhat balanced.
>>335154083
Because From hates the concept of invasions and wants to stack the odds against invaders as much as possible.
>>335154083
invaders with rapiers don't need more health
>>335154474
Too bad the reality is that they wait for you in a safe spot, with two people who are your equals and one who hase more HP and healing than you.
>>335147569
He was clearly already hurt
>>335154627
>tfw you shit on them anyway
I love it when I'm supposed to just be a midboss but I end up being final boss.
>>335154513
>>335154526
>lol did this nigga just roll away?
>im just gonna a spin attack
>and another
>another
>another
>another
>another
>ahi think im done
>lol just, another
>another
>another
>and lets end it with a big crystal sword swing that will do 90% oh his health at least
>lol git gud
>>335154793
learn to parry
>>335120743
can't believe vordt's set isn't available in game, wanted to wear it as soon as I saw the beta footage
The Carthus Bloodring is actually bullshit. I now know why hosts love rolling around in circles around the bonfire so much. I've been invading as a mad cunt and just rolling around in circles while three homo's chase me around swinging their hearts out for half an hour at a time.
It's actually impressive how determined some people are to try to get the kill and it has to be the most hilarious thing.
>>335154908
We don't get a Darth Pope set either.
>>335152073
There should be a middle ground. The DaS3 knights were probably the best middle ground between being fast enough to kill you and being slow enough so that you aren't just stunlocked to death.
Pontiff Sulyvahn was b.s. with those combos. And then there's those flippy ninja skellies in the catacombs that can just randomly dodge your attack. This is why Artorias is still one of the best bosses in the series. He was fast and relentless, but not to the point to which there was basically no openings.
>>335120726
Most bosses are easy to stagger when the three of us R1 him in the back together.
I wanna do a fun pvp build
What is the level cap for pvp now?
Can someone give me a hint on what I need to beat Yohrm without giving it away?
>>335155181
While I found the bitching about Potiff overstated, I agree that there are too many damn bosses in this game where you have to slowly chip them down in a war of attrition. I prefer the older style of chipping away and then learning how to get an opening where you can burst some damage in. A few bosses have this, but it seems unreliable.
The princes, for example, were a boss done right (minus the occasional teleport-attack that you literally can't see).You spend some time chipping away and then are rewarded with a longer period to go ham.
>it's a "jailer completely gimps your max health from across the map" episode
That was the only "artificial difficulty" I've seen thus far.
>>335132256
>NOT YET SNAKE, ITS NOT OVER YET!
>>335127552
holy shit my sides
>>335155181
>Pontiff Sulyvahn was b.s. with those combos
I agree. I circle strafed that boss with a greatshield for most of the fight and I'm not ashamed.
>>335155542
There's probably some messages from other players hinting what to do already. I know I had. Basically you just run to the other end and figure out the rest.
>>335155635
Still not as bad as the DeS mindflayers who instakill you.
>>335154793
They're easy to parry and you can stunlock them well enough. What REALLY sucks about them is their fucking placement. Irithyll is fucking rotten with DaS2-tier enemy placement.
>fire witch calling fire pillars under you while a bunch of shit mobs try to overrun you
>another fire witch on the balcony ALSO calling fire down on you
>oh and when you go try to kill her the pontiff knights come strolling in and aggro on you
>the croc
>boy I sure hope you dumped tons of points into VIG because otherwise you'll die in one hit against this extremely aggressive enemy who is one giant hitbox on some of his attacks
>lmao2croc
>those invisible fuckers who exist only to swarm you, or fling spells at you while OTHER shit tries to swarm you
Only slightly worse than the cathedral too, I swear to god whoever thought thralls were a good idea should fucking off themselves.
>>335155542
There's an item in his room
>>335155542
look around
>>335155495
Dont go past 80 for now
>>335155635
There are no threatening enemies around the jailers and they are piss easy to kill. Stop whining.
>>335155829
I got the storm sword and I've tried using its weapon art, but it's still doing less than my usual weapon.
>>335155771
You are bad at video games. The mobs move slow as fuck and the fire witch is on patrol and comes to you. The knights can easily be parried and the ones with shields arent even a little agressive
Get. Gud.
>>335155771
>fire witch
you mean flame knight?
>>335155635
>it's a player maintains direct unblinking eye contact with the jailer and wonders why the dungeon is so hard episode
The area is even designed to give you walls to hide behind in almost every room you encounter jailers, how long is this meme going to persist?
>chugger survives hit with 1 hp
>tries to sprint down hallway to go chug
>throwing knife to the back
is there a better feel?
>>335155971
I didn't say it was hard, it's just fucking annoying. Same with Dark Souls 2 and it basically being longbow-bait the entire game so you could cockblock the near constant ambushes the game tossed at you. For the most part DaS3 is at least better about it, since enemies won't aggro from a mile away with no line of sight on you because you triggered their canned ambush point and then slam you in the back. The thralls are cancer though.
>>335156081
>final room of the dungeon is 10 jailers walking in a circle in a large open room
>>335132283
I saw someone complaining about Yhorm earlier today. Alet, if you're like me and had no idea about those wind swords you're supposed to use, the fight is much more difficult (still far from hardest boss though).
>>335156105
>Chugger runs off to heal
>Throw chaos flame infront of him
>He rolls into the lava on the floor
Yes. Yes there is.
>>335120609
>it's another episode episode episode episode
>episode
>It's an "Invader destroys the host, despite facing wave after wave of summons" episode
>>335132073
>>335132283
Tree was getting a lot of shit the first few days.
>Decide for once I'm doing a blind playthrough
>Pretty sure I missed stuff
>Like the Dancer, didn't find him even though I visited the church from the trailers
>Didn't find the pyromancy guy, although he's probrably in the swamp area after High Wall
>Fucked up a ton of NPC quests because of cryptic bullshit (like, I can "heal sigil", no explanation, oh you did it? Joke's on you you missed an ending and lost an NPC)
>>335156169
Refund the game if you're this shit, I'm not spoonfeeding you a whole prima strategy guide
>>335155952
I wondered about that as well. Try holding the stance for a little while.
>>335156230
>invade host
>he has 2 sunbros and a blue
>kill phantoms one by one
>host fucking touches another summon sign and RUNS IN CIRCLES from me for 10 minutes
>summoning failed
>catch him and kill him
most cancerous player I have ever seen by far, literally REFUSED to even try once to hit me by himself.
>>335156174
It also has a room acrosa the way you can hide in, two paths on both sides and a couple other rooms you can hide in. Hell, throw a dagger past them and just run behind them if you don't want to fight them.
>>335156105
>fighting a chugger
>got him down to a sliver, he immediately turns around to go to chug
>unequip UGS
>run up and sock him in the teeth
>HOST OF EMBERS DESTROYED
so good
>>335156230
Hosts always get sloppy when you are low on health. I like to let them know me around a pit then punish their greedy bullshit
>>335155952
Hold L2 until it charges up all the way and then hold L2 and then R2
>>335125623
>I'm just going to roll past his swings and counterattack that bitch
>tfw every swing tracks your movement and you get fucked anyway
Is encumbrance truly the worst thing to happen to souls? Can't try out any cool armors without sacrificing damage or hp.
>>335156425
>>335156515
Thanks anons, will try.
Like a dream...
>>335156458
Wouldn't that take longer than just running after him?
>>335156867
I don't understand how people enjoy the 2d cardboard cut out backgrounds in this game
>>335156654
Did you only play Bloodborne? Encumbrance has been around since DeS, and it was way worse there.
I do think that DaS 3 should patch to make vigr give you more than one fucking point of equip load per level, it's not worth upgrading it instead of health or stamina
>>335156884
he probably just tapped right on the d-pad
>>335156952
are you retarded? that view is of the level you enter and fully explore directly afterwards
>>335156654
when you get to it, kill off stray demon, located above the old wolf of farron bonfire. you can then get havel's ring. gave me more room for trying out different armors
>>335156991
Item load never 4get. Also annoying when greystones (I think, the ones that give STR scaling) weight so much.
>>335136663
Caestus parry window is instant. git gud
>>335156884
eh, dunno if the putting away animation really interfered with the kill, but hey, at least I got him
>>335156952
See that cathedral?You can enter it
>>335156081
I've had multiple occasions with jailers getting stuck inside of walls and being able to drain my health. Fucking wallhacks.
>decide to do pvp
>dark sword dark sword dark sword dark sword
>>335156952
you can literally visit everything there
>>335120609
I don't know if that guy shows up again but the first one under the tower was super easier, just lured him to the steps by the elevator and plunged into his face a few times
What is the level range on invaders in DS3 anyways? Can level 300 gankers still get invaded by level 90s?
>>335148693
I did both of those too. I had no idea how to even get to the crystal sage and that path until I combed the shit out of that area right before farron.
>>335157189
>kill garl vinland
>drops his armor directly on the ground
>have to drop a bunch of unique items or it will disappear forever
it's my fault for not giving them to Thomas.
Just got up to theSoul of Cinderfight. My mind is blown by how fucking amazing it is - I almost beat it on my second try but chose to boneward back to the bonfire to fight it again later.
Brilliant fucking boss, bravo Miyazaki.
These fuckers are literally making me want to kill myself
>>335157921
SHAME
>>335157817
That fight was one of the worst in the game imo. Boring as fuck.
>>335157921
just dodge it anon
>>335157921
The painal room.
You know the one I'm talking about.
You all do.
>>335157817
>before you aggro him he sits at a bonfire in the das 1 animation
>darkwood grain ring flips
>halberd spin
>spear moveset
>sorceries
>that scimitar pyromancy mode
>kicks
>force
>got caught in wombo combo as he enters phase 2 and gwyn's theme kicked in
Had a fucking grin on my face the entire fight.
can the dragon tooth R1s be parried?
sorry for slightly off topic
>>335146568
kekd
>>335156514
What was the right way to get past those dragons? I just stood back from a safe spot and unloaded on one with my arbalest until it eventually died.
>>335154660
He had like 100 health missing at best.
>>335158736
I cheesed them too, but I assume that you can run and roll to the room that ultimately leads to the balcony where the dragon is lying.
>>335158652
yes, easily too
>>335157817
>final boss is an angry guy with a blade who moves similarly to you
>melancholic piano music playing in background
Bravo From. Didn't see that one coming.
>>335134746
>that doujin
I'm disgusted yet hopelessly aroused.
>>335158652
I'd assume everything can be parried. Doesn't mean I've succesfully done it though. FUGS is the biggest weapon I've parried.
>>335158736
You run fast and drop below from the bridge.
>>335120609
Only 2 enemies have given me serious trouble, the 2 Sulyvahn beasts in Ador Londo, fighting 1 is fine but 2 at the same time? Fuck that
And Boreal Dancer, don't even know why, struggled as fuck with her. Everything else is tough but do-able
>>335159108
>sequel still hasn't been translated
Kill me
hey kid
wanna be a scalie?
>>335159118
I believe the Farron slidy-sword can't be parried.
Or at least I haven't been able to do it yet
>>335159528
Is that spear actually viable? Looks so dang tasty.
>>335156105
>Fighting chugger
>He's burned through almost all of his Sunny D
>You haven't healed once
>He's finally out of chugs
>The despair is palpable as he starts rolling around like sonic the fucking hedgehog in an attempt to get away from you.
I enjoy this to an almost sexual degree
what are you supposed to do with the calamity ring? why would anyone wear it.
>>335128078
I recommend not to panic when dodging. His entire 2nd form is very timed and if you dodge too early he will kill you. Dodge, wait a bit, dodge and you can kill him. Learn his pattern and you can even kill him without health loss. Also if you can do enough damage to the drake's head, it will stagger and you can go in for massive damage with an execute.
>>335159753
It's a joke ring.
>>335159753
>what are you supposed to do with the calamity ring? why would anyone wear it.
It's for masochists. All though in DaS1 you had to beat the hardest boss in the game to get it
>get invaded in demon ruins
>invader instantly runs away trying to make a shitty area even shittier
>decide not to follow him
>use seed of giants
>within seconds get INVADER BANISHED
goat tool for shitters
>>335122979
Does anybody know if there is armour similar to this in DaS3?
>>335156952
You might want to play the game first before talking shit
>>335159634
probably the best regular pike, dunno if any of the wierdo special spears are better. spears are like very long and slower rapiers
>>335159528
Thanks Mr skeletal
>>335160316
>kalamet
>hard
I died more often to pontiff knights than to all the fucking bosses until that point combined
took me 3 tries to kill Pontiff Sulyvahn, and about 20 each time to get past the knight with the shield infront of the boss room
fuck
>>335160716
Most of the platemail is pretty unisex, if it's that particular look you're going for then you might need to fashion souls for a bit before you get an armor set that looks good.
>>335161232
Alright, thanks.
Now to spend 1+ hours in the character creator
>>335159732
>almost
stay pleb
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