>Wii U Gamepad is discarded and they stick with standard controls
This game barely uses the Wii U features, it doesn't even try, only a mirrored screen? Touch shortcuts? Is there a point on playing with the Gamepad?
>It literally uses all the Gamepad features
What? This is unplayable. I can't get past to the controls. What an awful game.
>Game allows you to switch between classic and gamepad controls
Why is there a Gamepad option anyway? Were they so insecure about it succeeding so they made a classic option? Is there a point on using Gamepad here since there's a single screen mode?
>>335042626
Unless user review are good, people on miiverse generally like it. Prepare to get a cel shaded star Fox on the NX
This game is gonna sell like 600k - 1m which will definitely warrant a sequel
>>335044589
Forgot to post pic
>>335044669
This pic bothers me because Waika is not the proper romanization of Waker.
>>335044589
>This game is gonna sell like 600k - 1m which will definitely warrant a sequel
Tell that to our good old friend F-Zero.
>>335044669
>That pic
I thought TP and SS were shit. WW wasn't too hot ether but at least it has charm.
The problem with this game is that it was born out of pure nostalgia. People only remember liking 64, so the scream and scream about an HD version of that without ever stopping to think if it would be fun and comparable to the other $60 games in the market.
>>335045192
I bought SF64 3D due to SF0 hype.
Game is still highly playable today, last 60 dollar game I bought was MGS 5, Which provided much less fun
I got ya covered, OP.
>>335045410
>those ideas are rooted in games past and the new feature muddle the whole thing up
so uh, what? I know those summaries aren't the reviews but damn that is confusing.
>>335045406
I'm interested to read your thoughts on the new one then, if you never played 64 in the past.
>>335045624
THIS is what confuses me.
>>335045782
assault is better then zero
>>335045782
>Assault and Zero was more critically panned more than Command and Adventures
>user score has Assault ranked more than every other game available
Metacritic is wild.
>>335045782
the user score is more accurate here. adventures is a decent game if treat it as a standalone game and you liked games like banjo kazooie / conker's bad furday. assault is isn't great but pretty good. command is absolutely terrible and I got all the endings despite never liking it.
>>335045410
Literally millenials whose first console was a 360 are now reviewing games
I like Krystal
>>335045035
GX was a bad game. The series was canned because of quality concerns, not because of sales.
>>335045035
Gamecube had way more games to choose from than the Wii U though. And I say this as someone that loves F-zero and own a Wii U.
There are so few "decent" releases on the thing that you end up buying whatever is avaliable.
>>335045782
Does this mean that critics don't know shit about videogames?
>>335046404
>millenials
You do realize that term is used to point out people born starting from the early 80s to the early 2000s, right?
Practically everyone on /v/ at the moment is a "millenial". Even the wizards.
Their first console was most definitely not a 360.
>>335046832
I do but I dont care.
>>335046802
Wouldn't surprise me
>>335045782
Assault is the best star fox by far.
Vidya is in a tight situation right now
either cater to casuals and make shit games or don't sell a significant amount
>>335046802
Yes, as someone that enjoyed SF adventures I can confirm it was a great time waster but a really lackluster game overall.
>>335046607
>>335042626
>Why is there a Gamepad option anyway? Were they so insecure about it succeeding so they made a classic option? Is there a point on using Gamepad here since there's a single screen mode
When has anyone ever said this?
>>335045035
It doesn't get a sequel because they don't even know how to top GX.
It sounds like a big excuse, but I can roll with it.
>>335046607
Not sure if bait. But fuck off
>>335042626
how long these damage control threads going to last?
>>335042626
>Another game with unorthodox controls that retards can't wrap their head around so complain that the game is shit
Happened with metroid prime 3, The conduit 1 & 2 and Skyward sword
>>335047341
Until the next mediocre Nintendo comes out.
>>335046175
whos dis
>>335047412
*Nintendo game
Post Krystal
>>335042626
There was one complaint by Polygon I think that you had to ahve the speakers on the gamepad turned on to hear your allies
>>335045410
This is what I feared would happen as soon as I saw footage. Compare star fox Zero to Sin and punishment 2, they're both on rails but sin and punishment actually feels like a game that belongs in this time period whereas zero looks slow and dated as shit
>>335046389
I had way too much fun playing multiplayer command since you only needed 1 chip. I used to host games on the school bus and just dump on kids
>>335047341
About as long as the hate threads. Give it a week it will die down eventually just like the Fates, Paper Mario, and MGSV threads
>>335045782
They all have the same rough score
>>335046802
Of course. They spend all their time making reviews,and puff pieces, and getting freebie stuff, instead of actually playing games.
Since they treat it as a job they do as little work as possible,meaning they usually don't actually PLAY a game properly unless it's a particular game genre they are into they they will at least complete the game.
Shit on magazines as much as you like, but back then,at least they had the time to write a half decent review since there is no instant demand for content
>>335047383
What the fuck are you talking about
The only review I remember that didn't praise Corruptions controls was the Gamespot one that said they're so good they make the game too easy.
>>335047309
>It doesn't get a sequel because they don't even know how to top GX.
Do you think they have they topped SF64/Lylatwars with this?
Why the fuck couldn't they just have a pro controller mode.
That's ALL they needed to do. That's IT.
I fucking dont WANT to use the two screen shit. I don't want to do that.
>>335048396
I've heard you can enable the co-op mode and only use the Pro, but you'll only have one laser to shoot with.
Doesn't sound like a bad trade-off, I'll probably do that myself.
>>335048396
So dont use it
There is a button to switch camera view, you can ignore the screen in your controller completely
>>335048240
I haven't played it, but it looks like lylat wars with better graphics and framerate, so yeah.
(I know this isn't a good enough improvement but it is an improvement non the less)
>>335046607
It had a few glaring bugs ("accelerating" slows you down faster then not accelerating when above your "max speed", etc), but it was a solid game.
I'm certainly biased on the matter, but I'm wiling to say it's the best in the series.
>>335042626
And let's not forget
>It's a shit 3 hour game, but if you replay it you can get 6 HOURS OUT OF IT!!!!
There are no legitimate counterpoints to this. Only nintendrone memes.
>>335045114
You rike Windu Weikaa, so I make Fantomu Awagurassu ando Supiritto Torakkusu
BUT YOU DON'T RIKE FANTOMU AWAGURASSU OR SUPIRITTO TORAKKUSU
>>335047383
Literally all of those games are trash. Fuck off.
>>335048240
maybe not from a gameplay perspective, but it seems to me miyamoto or whoever really wants to get the "story" correct
>>335045035
GX wasn't the last F-Zero game.
>>335048950
it'll take 3 replays to see everything if sf64 is anything to go by
>>335048983
>spirit tracks
I mean, Yeah, It was a good game. But having raid road tracks in a Zelda game is fucking jarring.
>>335048983
>so I make Fantomu Awagurassu ando Supiritto Torakkusu
Those weren't successor to Wind Waker, they were successors to ... Minish Cap? Or maybe the Oracle games? Top down games though.
>>335047131
See similar games like Sky Crawlers. Most reviewers wrote the same line about its motion controls put aside because there's a "classic" setting with dual sticks.
>>335049114
Well, it probably won't be, but it's been way too long.
An F-Zero with online multiplayer sounds like a no-brainer to me, but Nintendo apparently doesn't want to.
The game is awful. The controls really do suck.
The Gyrocopter vehicle is absolute dogshit and has no place in a Star Fox game.
Starfox Guard is actually much better than SF0 so far.
>>335049736
F-Zero Climax came out after GX, even if it was Japan only.
>>335049736
>>335042626
Yes. The gamepad never should have been a thing. It was always a stupid idea.
>>335049843
>which is how it should be used.
You may try to change its meaning towards your interpretation of the term by simply ignoring the public interpretation and continuing to use your one. You are part of the body defining the language after all.
The thing is: That doesn't work, if people simply don't agree with you.
>>335045035
F-Zero has no place in the current vidya industry, it's too hard for casuals and as you can perfectly see, games bomb if they aren't fit for casuals
>>335049579
It's all the same art style.
>>335042626
Nintendrones ladies and gentlemen.
>>335049736
>An F-Zero with online multiplayer sounds like a no-brainer to me, but Nintendo apparently doesn't want to.
I don't know if the Wii U and Nintendo's online infrastructure would be capable of handling F-Zero online multiplayer. Even Mario Kart 8 has all kinds of sync fudges and problems, but people overlook those because it's basically a racing party game.
>>335050260
great.
it's still stupid. and people will always have to keep correcting people on it anyway, because the majority of people don't use it that way.
you can't just blend all gen X and Y into "millennial" these people are damn near 40.
>>335050286
This.
The casuals have won.
>>335045410
>"let down all too frequently by repetitive, mundane on-rails segments that sour the freedom"
What the fuck? What is star fox without on rails segments? It's like complaining an uncharted game follows the standard shoot->cutscene->shoot format and docking points off it. How are they reviewing games?
>>335050286
>meanwhile Dark Souls 3 is one of the best selling games of the year and is harder than any game in the franchise
>>335044589
Wait, is it out today? I thought came out on the 22nd.
>>335051603
>dark souls isn't casual
artificial difficulty doesn't make it better, it just makes people see it as the new ice bucket challenge
>>335045035
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean it sold around 650,000? Doesn't exactly contradict what he said.
>>335051753
>artificial difficulty
Despite Dark Souls 1 being piss easy, yeah I can actually agree with this for DaS3.
literally every boss past Dancer will one-shot you even if you have over 1000 HP. I honestly don't know what they were thinking.
>>335051814
Ah, but he said there would be a sequel. Nevermind, forget what I said.
>>335046802
AND THERE'S THE POINT!
>>335051491
they think its supposed to be open world like EVERY fucking game out there now.
these people have never played starfox.
>>335051603
It's hip, so "critics" will pretend to like it.
Not having an anime art-style and not being made by Nintendo also helps a lot.
>TFW no Krystal
>>335051893
Even on Bloodborne, I questioned the logic of From putting in a health bar. What's the point of that if you die in 2 or 3 hits? Just put in health squares, something to represent hits.
>>335051603
>Dark Souls 3
LMAO
M
A
O
You do know that the average player can just summon 3 phantoms and breeze through every level, right? Not everyone is going to play NG+7 at SL1.
>>335052197
She'll be in the sequel
>>335052273
In Bloodborne you can upgrade the healthbar a fuckton since all the other stats don't really matter.
In Dark Souls 3, even hitting the first softcap of 1k HP, most bosses will one-shot you and most enemies will 3 or 4 shot you.
hell, there's no reason to even wear anything in DaS3 other than either the Thorn set or poison/curse resist gear.
>>335042626
All I want to know is can I play just looking at the gamepad, with my tv off and is the game fun/worth it?
>>335048591
It's literally bullshit.
Both players have their own lasers, so you and the buddy can handle two firing lines at the same time. However, the pilot player has to make sure to provide a proper angle for the buddy since they don't have full 360 aiming.
>>335052525
I don't think you can. 5 levels in and I don't see anyone doing too well playing the entire game in first person, there's too much shit you can't see.
>>335051753
>it just makes people see it as the new ice bucket challenge
This. Casuals will only put up with "hard games" if they think it's cool to play them
>>335052602
Well. I guess this is a wait until it's $40 in summer kind of game.
>>335052602
I understand what they were going for here, I do, but it's kind of inconvenient.
>>335052619
Yeah, I don't see most of these people playing through Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts.
>>335053095
>lel play through the game all over again on higher difficulty with the shittiest weapon in the game so you can actually fight the final boss who is easier than the first stage's boss
yeah no.
>>335052907
>Nintendo game
>price drop
>>335053225
Wonderful 101 is like 20 bucks.
>>335053213
I think the first level alone would make most of them quit.
>>335053296
when game sell like 10 copies that happens
Doesn't the game force gyro controls?
>>335054297
There's an option to only use them when holding down ZR which effectively turns them off most of the time.
>>335054423
You know the issue people have with gyro is the inability to use traditional controls to shoot enemies right? It doesn't really fix anything.
>>335051491
People want Adventure 2 + All-range Assault. Zero is shit and need want for a proper Star Fox NX
>>335047383
Prime 3 was fucking great, when they rereleased the first with Prime 3 controls it was perfect
>>335054698
>People want Adventure 2
>>335054623
When you have the controls set to that option, not only does the gyro not turn on when mashing for laser, but when doing a charge shot you have to purposefully move the gamepad to put it into gyro mode.
The only times I've HAD to use the gyro so far have been the chicken walker segments, which honestly just control like Splatoon.
>>335054698
>People want Adventure 2
Literally no one wants that
>>335045035
F-zero will be back when consoles can pull a stable 60fps again?
>>335054698
>People want Adventure 2
>Adventure 2
>>335054698
Assault was basically all-range mode all the time. Most levels gave you the option of going in an arwing and flying around a level that wasn't on-rails.
Can someone confirm to me already if this game uses the pro controller at all?
I don't give a shit how intuitive the waggle controls are, I don't give a fuck.
I just want to play some classic star fox.
>>335055545
>Can someone confirm to me already if this game uses the pro controller at all?
It does in 2 player co-op.
I don't think it does in single player, but I don't know that.
>>335055397
>>335055002
>>335054837
>Star Fox Adventures 2Battle
>>335055545
It doesn't.
there's a two player co-op mode where Player 2 gets a laser that he can aim with the Pro Controller. That is the end of Pro Controller functionality.
If you're wanting traditional nostalgic Star Fox, you will not get it here.
>>335055670
>>335055725
Dropped. Nintendo can go fuck itself.
>>335055812
lol
