Why was the original sims so damn comfy? Maybe it was the soundtrack, maybe it was just the fact that it was the first game of its kind most of us ever played. Whatever it was, there was a certain magic to it that future instalments of the series haven't been able to fully capture despite their advancements.
>>335017463
I think you've answered yourself. Especially when you mentioned the soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gGHQicQUw4
>>335017463
I think being confined to one lot for ~80% of the gameplay helped too. I also think Sims 2 managed to capture a very similar feel to the original Sims. Sims 3 was the first game to truly take it in a new direction with its open world and complete customization. Sims 4 was trying for a easy medium between The original Sims games and Sims 3, but I don't really think it managed it, especially with its awfully lackluster expansions.
I still like all four games in the series.
>>335017463
Sound track, late 90s/Millennium aesthetic. The Sims 2 always felt cheap and plasticy to me.
>>335018159
>late 90s/Millennium aesthetic
This.
Aside from nostalgia/we were young and it was new, I think there are legitimate reasons.
Music, which is what's usually brought up. The sound design in general is really good.
The incredibly bizarre sense of humor.
The super weird voice acting which none of the future Sims games managed to live up to. Every sim sounded so over the top in a good way, it really sounded like a mad-mans language in a way while future sims installments tried to make it sound more like a legitimate language. If that makes sense. It was just entertaining listening to them talk. I also liked how they just hummed tunes randomly while doing stuff.
2D backgrounds is always comfy regardless.
Because you didn't know any better. Also you know technology at that time wouldn't allow more features, so you were content.
>>335017463
Among things like music etc there's also the ideal of adult life, nice house, well furnished, active social life, community. Playing as a child it made you look forward to growing up.
>>335019403
Boy was that a disappointment
>hack the game so I could have a child sim act and live like an adult
>make myself and my crush move in together
>10 years later she's a neet junkie with a kid as bf, while I study engineering
;_;
>>335017463
Comfy isa word with barely any meaning now. I would assume it gives you good vibes because you played it when you were younger.
>>335019403
I'm still dreaming anon.........
>>335019403
Reminds me of playing the Game of Life boardgame. All those job possibilities were so overhelming.
>>335019604
Pretty much this.
Playing it now and it feels really clunky and restricted.
Sims 3 is the best one, right? I want to dl one and play with the gf.
>>335019850
Those can be their own charm though. Restrictions make for a better product within those restrictions.
>>335020107
certain restrictions work like that, but some don't
>>335019932
while I personally feel 3 is the best there are people who say 2 is, and I can understand them too
if you're gonna go for 3 better put stability mods
>>335019932
It's the best one by far in terms of content and possibilites, but even with bug fix mods performance will shit itself eventually so prepare to give up your save file after 20-30 hours unless you can be bothered to play with constant stutters and freezes
make sure to grab seasons and generations, the rest of the packs are mostly side content you'll barely touch and bogs down the game even further, those two enhance the base game really well
How come there is no Sims general on /vg/? I want a recommended mod list ;_;
>>335020768
although island paradise is okay if you really want to live on a house boat
>>335020768
>skipping Ambitions and Night Life
also I'd argue to complete Seasons you'd want Pets too, since seasons without fauna is just weird
and I disagree on the performances, you wouldn't stutter when you got the error fix and watch
with that said I also recommend various story mods (the ones that control world growth) since the default is retarded
MAN SIMS 4 WAS AMAZING HUH
>>335019403
>apply for any job you like
>automatically get it
>promotions are straightforward skill checks until you have to manage a ton of friends
If only it was that easy
>>335017463
Because you could have a fucking dragon as a pet.
>>335021008
I got both of those mods along with awesomemod and it ran fine for a while but eventually the issues will appear. Not game breaking though, it would probably be way way worse without the mods, but annoying enough for me to stick with Sims 4 just because it runs at 60fps all the time.
Also isn't Pets supposed to be the worst pack in terms of bogging down your game? It adds stray animals everywhere.
>>335021031
4 had pretty good build mode and no contest the best CAS, if you don't mind the lack of an open world then it's worth a pirate. Absolutely not a purchase though because it really is just 3 without the features that made 3 unique.
>>335021415
that's what I meant by fauna
there are mods that limit them iirc
I usually save every hour of gameplay or 30 mins so it shouldn't be a problem
>>335021415
This desu.
> hate kids in real life
> always try to get my sim pregnant and have at least two babies in the game. Bonus points of it's twins
I just don't know why. It seems like a natural progression for a sim's life. And taking care of toddlers and watching them grow is incedibly rewarding in sims
>>335021785
You'll eventualy want them too, anon.
>>335017463
>>335017831
>>335018516
I also believe there are legitimate design reasons for why the original Sims is remembered so fondly compared to its sequels.
They all have the same awful horse shit of excessive DLC/expansions, but the original was the only one explicitly directed by Will Wright. Despite all of the expansions, it mostly felt like it had this strong sense of focus and direction.
You were mostly playing on a handful of given lots, and each lot felt like its own comfortable, self-contained world where you could do pretty much anything the game was able to do. A lot of people keep gushing over how "great" open world games are and how every game should be open world, but the sense of semi-isolation you had in your lot was weirdly peaceful. There was this unmistakable zen quality to it because of those self-imposed limitations.
It's really hard to describe, but games age a lot better when they have a smaller focus that's done really well.
>>335021785
>>335021862
I don't want a kid myself but I get them in Sims just for the challenge/carrying on the legacy
>>335021862
Anon, i'm 32 years old. If don't think that my views on those deadweight lumps of meat will change any time soon, if ever.
>>335022343
> 32
You'd be surprised. The feelings usually get worse as we get closer to middle age.
I'm not saying that everyone should have children. That's nonsense. It's just that most people eventually get the urge to have them, whether or not they wanted to in the first place.
>>335022343
kids are sexier than you think
>>335017463
the soundtrack was damn good bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNizVO8WBYw
>>335021415
>no contest the best CAS
I disagree, the lack of Create a Style killed customization, also Nrass CAS is GOAT
Sims 4 has easily the best build tools of all Sims games though also in terms of Sim AI and streamlining of Sim behaviour it's the best as well, for example, in Sims 4 Sims can actually multitask while Sims 3 they can't.
The lack of open world though is a game killer for me though as Nrass Story Progression is a must have.
I can see where they came from though with the cutting of features and compartmentalization of the game because Sims 3 became a massively bloated piece of shit that barely even runs with all expansions and store content, but that's largely due to the retarded engine and for some reason it constantly tries to load gigs worth of caches and backups (Seriously, you can get crazy performance boosts by cleaning up the chache/backup folders.) more than the level of content itself.
Sims 4 was one step forward, two steps back.
>>335020768
>>335021415
Does 4 still have the clothes texture editor? I really loved messing around with that stuff.
>>335023340
No.
>>335023164
Being able to customize any texture on the fly was amazing but it mattered more for build mode than making your sim. Vanilla clothes in 3 were butt ugly anyway, 4 has much better looking clothing in general.
I really like how the sims look in 4, in 3 you NEED mods to make them look okay and even then they just go from creepy ugly dolls to creepy porcelain dolls usually
but really, CAS and the performance are the only things I like about 4. While playing it I keep missing features that 3, a 7 year old game, had.
>>335023545
You can do right without mods?
>>335023645
Yes, 3 was co-directed by Nomura
>i7
>16 gigs of ram
>Sims 3 takes about 15 minutes to load
I feel like I should delete like most of these expansions, but I want to keep the items as well.
Why is Sims 2 so revered? I know so many people love the Sims 2, but it's the Sims game I skipped (Went straight from 1 to 3)
For example, what makes 2 so much better than 3?
>>335021230
>want romance
>just strike up conversations with random strangers
>>335023851
>For example, what makes 2 so much better than 3?
Literally nothing, it was great for it's time but there is no reason to play it instead of 3 or even 4 right now. It did have somewhat neat expansions though. But the praise I guess is nostalgia. I tried going back to it recently but got bored incredibly fast.
>>335023851
It was produced by Maxis, with most of the key people behind the original game. If you take into account all the expansions and patches the sims 3 might be better at this point, but for the longest time the sims 3 was a game with less content than the basic sims 2 with uglier characters and a ten minute loading time every time you booted the game.
>>335024161
>the sims 3 was a game with less content than the basic sims 2
this isn't true
>>335017463
>first game of its kind
those kinds of games are rare
Westwood, Criterion, Maxis, Mythic, Bullfrog, Pandemic. Bioware is now a withered husk of it's former self.
Seriously, what the FUCK is wrong with EA? They are so objectively awful.
>>335017463
it was the language, a friend of mine used to sometimes speak like it as a joke at school in like 7th grade or something
>>335024213
Yes it was. Every community building in the sims 3 was an empty shell that your character would just walk into and stay there for a couple of hours. It didn't even have hot tubs or musical instruments besides the guitar
>>335024161
oh sweet maxis, didn't they do a-train as well?
>>335019403
>Playing as a child it made you look forward to growing up.
time to buy more beer.
>>335024425
Oh, also memories weren't included, you couldn't create new neighbourhoods, gardens don't require any upkeep and are purely decorative, the ability to make family photo albums in game.
I'm probably forgetting some other things.
>>335019403
>Playing as a child it made you look forward to growing up.
>>335021031
"WE'LL MAKE SIM GAMES GREAT AGAIN' -EA
>>335021031
> sister played Sims ever since she was a little girl playing the original
> she was hyped for Sims 4 but became visibly less enthusiastic as more news and gameplay footage was released
> I barely know anything about the Sims but I keep asking her if she wants the newest one
> she keeps telling me that she'll get it on her own some other time
> still doesn't have it
I don't know if that's procrastination or just a sign of her growing up.
>>335017463
well, good news anon
>http://freeso.org/
now we just need a /v/ server
>>335023164
I disagree in building, Sims 3 covers all bases and has custom object texture
that alone beats 4
>>335019403
This is going to be one of those screenshotted posts with tons of "feels" replies isn't it.
>>335025708
If you go a bit in depth 4 outranks 3 in terms of possibilities, especially with the moveobjects cheat. Now if it only had the create a style feature. That was a GODSEND to make shit match. I don't think it allowed you to adjust terrain levels either.
>>335024425
the only thing it changed was that you didn't have interactable dining, otherwise the rabbit holes were literally the places you never see the sims go to anyway (job places for instance)
and I disagree, base sims 2 had less content than base sims 3
>>335024696
memories were shit in Sims 3 regardless though, as for neighborhoods iirc you need a different tool to make one
and what, garden was an actual skill in Sims 3, unless you mean the watering the plants shit and not "growing plants for fruit and livelyhood"
>>335025708
4 has significantly more building features.
>>335025878
>>335025925
I thought 3 had more basement, more floors, interaction with terrain, terrain changes, customized roofing, ceilings actually mattering, etc.
what did 4 have?
>tfw hearing this for the first time as a kid
>>335017625
This song gives me insane feels, dude. I remember sitting next to my mom for hours while she played this game. I bought her every expansion as soon as it released with my own money, aswell.
I miss her.
>>335025980
You can make a giant toilet in 4. Can you do that in 3?
>>335026001
>>335026478
so you can change object size now?
>>335019932
Yes, but it's slow as fuck with all the content. EA had one job with Sims 4, which was to make an improved more stable Sims 3. And they fucked up.
>>335025917
>as for neighborhoods iirc you need a different tool to make one
A different game I think, didn't you need one of the SimCity games?
>>335025980
4's basements work exactly the same as far as I know. Maybe you are right about the amount of allowed floors though.
I always struggled making "unique" roofs in 3 that didn't look like shit, it's way more manageable in 4. And I don't know what you mean about ceiling mattering. What makes it matter in 3?
4 had nice stuff like roof trims, roof decorations, pillar decorations, less restrictive stairs, adjustable height of object placement with moveobjects on which helped tremendously in personalizing rooms, freely move windows up and down a wall, freely move wall objects anywhere on wall (3 kinda had this but only up and down and only in intervals, not completely free)
Ultimately they're both extremely similiar, 3 edges out thanks to terrain manipulation and create-a-style, while 4 is nice for really decorating the shit outta your home.
>>335026291
I'm sorry for you anon.
>>335026291
dont make me fucking feel
i didn't come here to feel
>>335026658
No just a separate program (Create A World I think)
You can now paint ceilings so they don't look like shit. 3 had some roof trimmings but are very limited (like christmas lights). Yeah stairs suck in 2 and 3. I thought moveobjects in 3 had height arrangements though.
>>335017463
I always like the PS2 version. Dat story mode.
anyone else used the money cheats and just tried to build their own real life house?
>>335019578
>Re-install Sims 2 for the first time in ages
>my save file was still on my pc apparently
>go see what my neighborhood looks like
>my sim is married to the sim i created of my girlfriend from that time
>she was the last girlfriend i had
>bummed all week
Why did i do this
>>335026952
I used to try this and I could never get the proportions right. I think I always ended up making every room twice as big for some reason. Maybe I did it out of necessity since 1/2 had such limited object placement and everything needed a million empty squares in front of them to be used.
>mfw my sister spilled her nail polish on my original sims 1 disc
she wasn't even sorry, she was all like "you can just download it off the internet, what's the big deal".
youth these days, i tells ya.
I think something Sims 1 had aside of novelty value (and it's a very unique game at the time without anything like it) was that there was always this feeling that something could happen and surprise you. The game had all those mysterious things that caught you off-guard when you thought you had control of everything, including supernatural things in an otherwise reality-grounded game. Also the soundtrack was really good at evoking all sorts of intense emotions from you, and I think this was toned down a bit in the sequels.
Despite being a game also aimed at a casual audience it had a shitton of content and many ways you could expand on it. Modding was also relatively easy, and they offered some tools like in other Maxis games.
