What's /v/'s (so your own) opinion on where DaS3 stands? I haven't played it yet, will pick it up in the weekend. Busy times. But i've played Demon's, DaS, DaS2 and bloodborne.
How would you rank them?
>>335009845
DaS>DaS3=BB>Des>DaS2
>>335009845
DaS>BB>DeS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS2=DaS3
It's shit, and I hope it's the last one. It can only get worse.
DaS2 > DaS1 > BB > DaS3
/v/ is too stupid to 'get' DaS2
>>335009845
>>335009845
Dark Souls 2 is consistently above average as a souls game (but an amazing game on it's own).
Dark Souls goes from near-perfection to so bad I couldn't even be bothered finishing it.
Haven't played Bloodborne because consoles are holding back vidya
Player since the beginning. About 1/6 way through DS 3
Bloodborne > Demons Souls > Dark Souls > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 2
>>335010571
this guy actually played the games
>>335010772
when will sonyggers learn
>>335009845
Ds1>ds3>des>>>>>>>>>>ds2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BB
Everyone who puts BB at number 1 is an inbred retard
>>335009845
It isnt bad but it made me appreciate the good parts of DS2 more. My favorites are DeS=DS1=BB
Castlevania > Souls
Das3>BB>DaS1
Didn't play DeS and DaS2. People who rate DaS1 highly have amnesia and forget how unfinished the second half felt like and how utterly broken halberds were for PVP. It's only first in Bloodborne that the enemy AI became aggressive and fun to play against.
With that said, I love all these three games. Labors of love.
>>335010884
faggot detected
>>335010935
raging homo dickhead detected
>>335011101
>were for PVP.
meant PVE.
ds > ds3 >= des > ds2 DLC > ds2 vanilla > sotfs
>>335010571
>you just don't get it mom
Bloodborne>Dark Souls 3>Dark Souls 2 SOTFS>Dark Souls
If anyone would actually go back and play the first dark souls you would feel how slow it is and how it feels like none of your hits have any weight. Had great level design for most of it, but it really isn't the top of the series.
And I havent finished DeS so Im not sure where it fits.
>>335011119
[NYGGER TRIGGER]
>>335009845
BB=DS1>DD3>DS>DS3
I played Dark Souls 1 first and routinely go back and play Demon's every couple months.
I REALLY like the agressive playstyle, armor and weapon style, and setting of bloodborne but I get why people rank it lower or dislike it
Dark souls 1 has better world set up, setting, and lore.
Dark souls 3 has tighter mechanics and updated just about everything else, but it has an insane amount of references to older games and I'm honestly not a huge fan of alot of the original armor in the game (colors don't match nearly as well as other games, there's 2 tiers of shiny armor, black armor, cloth, etc.. in terms of color so it's hard to match different armors for Fashion Souls)
>>335011323
When will people stop with the nostalgia strawman? I played the first Dark Souls for the first time this year and it's probably my favorite. People have their own reasons for their preferences.
>>335011101
No wonder you rate DS3 so high, you dont know from where half the copy paste comes from. I envy you.
>>335011323
>I need to fight like my japanese animes
>>335011013
true enough but castlevania is dead. souls is a worthy sucessor
>>335011013
Nah, the Souls series has more depth.
>>335011013
Bloodborne is the best Castlevania you'll get in 3D. Just name your Hunter Belmont and go down on town.
Everyone will have their own opinion but what is fact? There would be no dark souls 2 or 3 if the first one wasnt such a masterpiece . demon's too
DS1 > BB > DeS > DS3 > DS2
>removed dueling covenants
>removed twinblades
>fewer weapons
>WAY fewer armor sets
>Str and magic builds are shit until SL80+
>DaS2 did weapon arts way better by making them actually worth using and costing durability instead of mana
>le 4v1 r1 orgy
DaS3 just feels gutted. I can't believe I actually miss DaS2.
>>335009845
DeS=DaS3>DaS>BB>>>>DaS2
I think if I really gave it some more thought it might be something like.
first half ds1 > ds2 dlc > des > ds3 > second half ds1 > ds2
There are still weird contradictions to my opinions that I can't rationalize yet. For instance, some of the enemy placements in ds3 are really comparable to ds2 but I dislike ds2 a lot more for some reason. Maybe because I just really dislike the mechanical feel of ds2 in general? I also don't think the world really fits together as well as ds1 did, which is true for both ds2 and ds3, but I'm willing to overlook it in ds3 more for some reason.
Maybe I need more time to digest it.
>>335011760
You forgot to mention the laggiest pvp in souls.
>>335011419
I didnt use the word nostalgia. People just think its god-tier because most of them probabaly don't play it regularly. I love the whole series, Dark Souls is still amazing, but in my opinion the series has constantly improved over time. Im not entirely sure why everyone fucking hates the second one, I honestly dont understand. Its more linear in its design, I suppose, but other than that I don't see where the hate is from.
I went back two days ago and started a new game of Dark Souls. People bitch about how easy the bosses are in 3 and then hold Dark Souls up on this pedestal. The bosses in Dark Souls are slow its like a joke when you go back from BB or DaS 3.
>>335011461
Good argument dipshit. God forbid a game has quick combat or people think your a weeb. Try harder next time, boy.
Scholar=DS3>>DS1
Once DS3 gets its DLC it will be the GOAT though
>>335011845
>ds3 is bad but I'm willing to overlook it in ds3 more
fresh feel.
the dust will settle soon enough. and dark souls 2 will come out on top. you will all know soon enough
>miyazaki hate bb
hates his best game lol
love how he talks about the "limitations" as if he wasnt the designer and any limitations were put there by him
>>335011935
>its more linear in its design
This makes a world of difference for some people's enjoyment. The world building in general is why I prefer the first game. They've certainly mechanically improved, and I agree completely about the bosses.
DS3 > Scholar > DS1
whichever one you played first is the best. this holds true for a lot of things, not just souls
I don't plan on playing 3 since 2 was underwhelming, but BB, DeS, and DaS are all equally great for different reasons in my eyes.
Ive played all of them except DeS. Des looks too old for me to appreciate properly.
For me its ds3=bb>ds1>scholars>>>designated shitting streets>vanilla ds2
>>335012376
>I don't plan on playing 3 since 2 was underwhelming
That's a stupid reason desu. 3 is a huge improvement over 2.
>>335009845
DaS2 = DaS1 > DaS3 = DeS > BB
DaS2 is just mechanically the best,except for fucking hex faggots, and DaS1 is the best of a broken system. DaS3 is basically harder BB with nostalgia and throwbacks and we cant fault the original.
>>335012253
You are retarded
I really still think Demon's Souls is going to end up remaining my favorite.
It has its flaws, but nothing will ever matches the high of the first hit, and that storyline was so cloyingly depressing, really set my expectations for how shitty a Souls story should make you feel.
DaS was a step in a more grand scale, which was great for the series and fixed a lot of the more archaic issues that Demon's Souls had gameplay wise.
DaS2 initially pissed me off for about the first half of the game, bosses were easy and samey and locations were not very satisfying in either construction, scale, or inter-connection. Visually it all looks a bit cartoony in comparison to the previous games. The story is deceptively good though and makes up for a lot of the games shortcomings. It initially felt like they were trying to cram a love story into a game that had no place having one, but as it goes on, you realize it's not a love story, but basically the most passive aggressive divorce story ever told. Which was pretty entertaining to realize as the pieces fell into place slowly.
BB is an interesting departure. I enjoyed the totally opposing combat philosophies from previous games and the themes of blood and eldritch abominations was definitely unique. I especially like the insight mechanic as it kept the game fresh going through areas again. The scale was once again more Demon's Souls sized where the playable world isn't quite as grandiose, but the far reaching implications of the great old ones in the story made the world seem larger in and of itself. I hope they revisit BB's world at some point, but it did feel very self contained as if it doesn't really need a sequel.
DaS3 felt right from the start, it hits all the early marks that DaS2 missed, almost blatantly so, as if to say "Look I'm back, and I unfucked everything!" But ultimately I'm not far enough in to have an opinion. Story seems promising, but details early on are sparse as usual so we'll see if it holds my interest.
>>335012253
Rogue> AC4 > AC2 > Brotherhood > Revelations > AC1 > AC3
Mass Effect 2 > Mass effect 3 = Mass Effect 1
MGS3 > the rest
Witcher 3 > Witcher 2 >>>> Witcher 1
Halo 3 > Halo 2 > Reach > Halo > the rest
I played them in the order they were released.
>>335009845
I haven't played DaS3 yet either. I rank the others like this:
BB = DaS > DeS > DaS2
can't wait to play DaS3 but I won't be able to until June
>>335010571
gr8 b8 m8
DS>DS3>DS2>DeS
Haven't played BB enough to form an opinion on it, and I'm not retarded enough to fall for the "DS2 is terrible" meme.
>>335012529
Pretty good post. I never played des but this is all spot on
>>335012034
There's that argument again. :)
>>335009845
DeS=DaS>BB>>DaS3>>>>>DaS2
>>335012529
fuck off nerd
>>335012026
Don't think that explains it considering I instantly disliked ds2. Played through vanilla, sotfs, and all dlc but it still feels bad mechanically. The DLC actually makes the rest of the areas feel that much worse by contrast, in terms of the level design at least. They still didn't really improve enemy placement and your actions still feel not good.
Fun but doubt i will play a second playthrough.
The game was so short, 21-22 hours and i finished it.
I dont care about the online function of the game, so play offline anyway.
Dark Souls 2 had so many bosses and was much more fun because of it. Memers can argue otherwise but DaS2 is in the top percentage of Souls games
>>335011935
>Its more linear in its design, I suppose, but other than that I don't see where the hate is from.
Mechanically it's sound, but area design leaves a lot to be desired (and I'm not talking about geography, just level design), the combat feels somewhat sluggish and the boss design leaves a lot to be desired, and while I think it's a good game, it's still missing part of what drew me and other people into the series in the first place, starting with Demon's.
>>335012529
this right here.
>>335009845
DaS>BB=DaS3>Das2>DeS
I'm biased about Demon's Souls because I didn't play it until last year.
My favorite game by far is Demon's Souls, which I don't understand entirely but I find myself replaying it the most. I've replayed it once a month since it's launch. But at the same time I don't think it's the best game in the series.
Personally I'd say
DaS=BB>DeS>DaS3>>DaS2
I really didn't enjoy DaS2. It was the only Souls game I've only played once, because the first playthrough had nothing about it that made me excited to play the game again, I found it very boring and extremely easy (although to be fair I found DaS3 very easy as well).
DeS=DaS>DaS3>DaS2
DeS will always hold a special place in my heard with it's characters and locations. All the boss fights were on point too.
I never got pass Umbasa-man in BB since I'm shit at shooting(riposting) and lolnoshields.
DaS3 is just a breath of fresh air after DaS2 and BB for me.
Like a 'get back to form' kind of thing.
>>335012529
>Story seems promising, but details early on are sparse as usual so we'll see if it holds my interest.
A lot of Lothric's story feels like going back to Demon's Souls, at least with the accursed kingdom, the fucked up royalty that gave all for power and the sheer misery of it all. Demon's Souls is my favorite from a story standpoint, as I liked the human factor of it more than the grand scale of DaS, but 3 mixes both in a pretty satisfactory way.
what is the worst area in any of these games and why is it Earthen peak?
>>335009845
I have more hours in DaS1 than any of the other games (At least over 2k on Xbox, quite a majority of it from PvP)
But, Demon's Souls is still my favorite
DeS>DaS3>DaS=BB>DaS2
>>335012831
There's no argument :]
>>335012409
DeS has the best atmosphere though. How can it look too old? It's a good looking PS3 game.
>>335012529
You're in for a ride. DaS3 only gets better and better.
>>335013212
>I really didn't enjoy DaS2. It was the only Souls game I've only played once, because the first playthrough had nothing about it that made me excited to play the game again
literally me
>>335013391
Smouldering Lake, only thing I liked about it was the boss
>>335013391
It's the shittiest Souls swamp level. And the shortest at the same time.
>>335013391
that's not how you spell The Gutter
>>335012629
You're opinions are shit. Only Rogue is in its rightful place.
>>335013694
be that as it may it still disproves that guy's point.
>>335013664
the gutter was one of the only places i liked in das2
fucking pleb
>>335013470
I mean from a gameplay standpoint. I would imagine its mind numbingly easy after ds3 and BB, no?
After scholars i reached a point where these games werent hard anymore, then bb took it even farther. But if the story of des is good i may play it if i ever rebuy a ps3. I just havent looked up the plot cuz i want it to be fresh if i do
>>335013664
The Gutter was great though
>>335013664
that's not how you spell BLACK GULCH
>>335013806
I'm >>335013212 and I don't know why, but for the love of god I still have trouble with Maneaters. I don't know what the fuck it is or what is in my brain, but Maneaters is the hardest fight of any souls game for me. As I said I've played DeS 100x more then any of the other games, and yet I still struggle. Shit makes no sense. But as the anon you replied to said, DeS has the best atmosphere and overall area design imo. Tower of Latria is my favorite place of any Souls game, and one of my favorite locations of all time.
>>335011461
All of the games have unrealistic combat.
>>335009845
DS1 = DS3 = BB > DS2: SOTFS > DeS > DS2
This is objectively right and you fucks know it...
>>335013806
It's still pretty hard because it's slow though. Probably more traps and things to catch you off guard in it. The bosses are more puzzlers than actual tests of skill but that's what I love about them.
>>335009845
BB=DS3>DS1=DeS>>>Ivory King final boss>Shrine of Amana>>>>>DS2
>>335014418
this
Daily reminder that people who rate DS1 above all else
a. Have a terminal case of nostalgia and should not be taken seriously.
b. PCucks, therefore should not be taken seriously.
>>335009845
DS1 > DS3 >>> DS2
>>335014418
>DS2 in any shape or form above DeS
>objectively right
>>335009845
the only real answer is:
DaS3->BB->DaS->DeS->DaS2
DeS>DaS2>DaS>BB>DaS3
>>335016041
You're getting straw everywhere. Clean that shit up.
>>335016394
>implying
>unfinished
>more unbalanced than any other game in the series
>all but 3 covenants are mechanically broken
>everything after Sen's Fortress is trash
>rehashed bosses as enemies everywhere
>S&O is the only good boss in the game
DaS > DaS3 = BB > DeS >> DaS2
>>335016549
>everything after Sen's Fortress is trash
now pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushie
>>335016682
>MUH EMPTY ANOR LONDO CORRIDORS WITH EASIEST ENEMIES IN THE GAME AND SLOW USELESS GIANTS EVERYWHERE
lol
>>335016549
Now there's some actual arguments. Better than >you only like it cause nostalgia
>>335009845
DaS3 > bb >= das1 > des > das2
Basically I think every game was an improvement on the last with the exception of das2, and bb/das1 are super close
>>335016760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozBUu2IoczE
>>335016598
Iltimate meme opinion
DS1>DeS>AotA=DS3>>>>>>SotFS=DS2
Haven't played BB but I prefer the exploration, strategic encounter design, and roleplaying gameplay elements of the souls more than I do the pure action elements anyway so I don't really know how much I would enjoy it.
>>335016840
Das 2 was a massive improvement over das though.
Bloodborne > DeS > DaS >(power gap)> DaSII
Haven't played DaSIII yet, but from what I've seen it should fit comfortably next to DaS. I play these games for the atmosphere, lore, and aesthetics; all of the areas in which DaSII fails miserably, and in which the FromSoft/JapanStudio collabs excel.
DS1 > DS2 > DS3
Maybe the magic has just worn off for me. I'm still enjoying it but not so much as before.
I don't get why /v/ hates DS2 either. The areas were so much more interesting. Like Majula and the place with the Lighthouse.
I'm not that far into DS3 tho (beat the crystal witch just now) so maybe I shouldn't judge yet
I've played all but BB.
DaS3 > DeS > DaS1 > Das2
Good:
-Keeping DaS2's good improvements such as spell / miracle / pyromancy scaling, moving and manual aim with bows and crossbows, more equipment load levels and infusion system instead of upgrade paths while getting rid of the horrible i-frame influencing Adaptability stat.
-Dual wielding removed, but replaced with weapon arts, making some weapons into DW mode (which functions the same as two-handing a weapon). As a conclusion weapons have bigger movesets.
-Balance changes such as adopting DaS2's Estus upgrades, but also removing Life Gems and Humanity as healing items.
-More infusions, bringing DeS' HP and MP regen infusions back. There's no armor upgrades which gets rid of material grind and you can more easily change your armor whenever you find something that suits your build / fashion tastes better
-Best boss fights out of all the series' games I've played
-Much better level and enemy design than DaS2
-Best red phantom PvP, can invade even while not in full HP human form (like in DeS), full Red Eye Orb is available quite early though not as early as DeS' black eye stone, meaning PvP once again supports the single player experience. Red phantoms also get access tolevel reset mechanic
-Game rewards exploration the most out of all games, having even hidden endings
-Fantastic finale to the series. Final boss is 10/10
Bad:
-PC port is a hit or miss. Depending on their rig people crash near Bonfires if Lightning is set to anything other than Low. However after setting it to low the game worked without any other issues and I managed to get constant 60FPS with my GTX 770
-Getting rid of PvP sin and Blue Eye Orb invasions. It's pretty much impossible to find matches as Blue Sentinel / Darkmoon / Watchdog due to their invasion requirements being too restrictive. However all other covenants and forms of online play work 100% of the time and it's extremely easy to find invasions as a red eye orb user
Ds1>Ds2>Ds3>BB>DeS
