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So who's excited about it?
I can't wait, roll on May 24th!!
>>335006314
>Everyone super excited about Warhammer game coming out
>Ohshit.jpg
>Excited af
>Find out is Warhammer fantasy garbage
D R O P P E D
>>335007583
>the 40k retard in every thread
>>335007583
underage b&
>>335007691
>>335007704
Muh elves. Muh vampires.
Fucking unoriginal wanna be Tolkien nerds GTFO
>>335007792
Okay.
>>335007792
Tanks and lasers are super original.
Not-History is the thing TW needed to revitalize itself.
Two things worry me greatly. One is siege battles, they've shown the same siege style over and over. You can't surround a city, its all either a corner defense with 2 walls or a 3 wall defense. Even the latest video shows a corner defense.
Two is how AI will deal will all the new shit to do/work around. Spells, unique enemies and attacks, shit like that.
Sucks Bretonnia won't be playable in campaigns, only custom battle with a limited roster.
Dwarf masterrace reportan
>>335008429
Judging by how well people are able to root around in the inner workings. We might get a playable Bretonnia, but without any quests/missions sometime later. But the actual Bretonnia freelc should be coming after like a month.
>>335008429
Brets are the likely candidate to be the FLC faction CA mentioned.
why is nobody talking about the recent new bretonnia gameplay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AzEqhS0rcY
Who /empireofman/ here?
>>335008790
I sorta did here>>335008429
>>335008758
Now they are, but it sucks it couldn't be a different Chaos faction.
>>335008790
Superior footage of the same battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2TZfCCX0wI
>>335007792
>taking basically the exact same thing and moving it into space is original
>'muh eldar aren't just space elves!'
ayy
>>335006314
>just want to rip, tear and be teared as near immortal orks
>just battles with a friendly fire stat at the end
>and dakkas
one day I'll have a 40k game not focused on spees mureens
I'm getting Rome 2 flashbacks from this game. Every trailer so far looks great. So did Rome 2.
>>335007792
>40k subhuman accusing something of being unoriginal
40k shits are the original bronies, christ what an annoying, cringy as fuck fanbase
>>335009187
>dat black coach
damn, I thought they were just going to make it a shitty vehicle you would keep in the back to cast spells.But that is fucking awesome.
>buying a tw game on launch
>b-but attila!
>b-but all the gameplay footage!
>>335007583
>>335007792
>not being part of the liking both 40k and Fantasy masterrace
How retarded can you get?
>>335009425
I don't see the parallels. Rome 2 had only a couple scripted battles shown by this time. Meanwhile we know the full rosters of every faction and have seen the campaign, scripted battles, custom battles, sieges as the attacker and sieges as the defender. What parallels are you drawing here, other than it looks great?
>>335009727
Are those not good enough reasons? They sound pretty good to me, especially after factoring in how many literally whos are getting early access to the game to show it off.
>>335009528
>shitting on 40k just because of some shitposter
dumb frogposter
>>335006314
Cautiously optimistic. I'm not gonna pre-order it or anything, but I'm eagerly awaiting reports from real people playing it on release with no bullshit.
>>335010296
40k is garbage
Holy shit, fucking finally a Warhammer Total War game
>not 40k
Why even bother? I've already played it when it was called "Third Age : Total War"
>>335010296
He's not necessarily shitting on 40k, he's just reminding anon not to throw stones in a glass house.
Memeing aside, I genuinely cannot fathom why people keep asking for a 40k Total War game. It just wouldn't work. The sharp end of combat is all about small unit tactics, which just does not mesh at all with Total War's gameplay.
>>335010394
Why the fuck would you want a 40k Total War game?
At best, you played Warhammer lite. Lord of the Rings is really lacking compared to Warhammer.
>>335009425
>popular youtubers get to record the game LIVE and upload it to their channels.
>they talk about the campaign features from their POVs and show videos that they recorded
>"OY VEY REMEMBER CARTHAGE, PLAY HOI4 instead"
>>335010576
>Why the fuck would you want a 40k Total War game?
Not him, but I would much rather have a 40k Total War over End of Times.
Call of Warhammer was already amazing.
>>335010576
>Lord of the Rings is really lacking compared to thing that copy from Lord of the Rings
Warhammer and Overwatch releasing on the same day, i'm pumped.
I'm leaning towards the Greenskins as my first faction to play
>>335007691
>>335007704
>>335007839
>>335008145
>>335009201
>>335009528
>>335009593
>>335009795
>>335010361
>>335010406
All this butthurt. We don't need another bland fantasy game where muh orcs vs dwarves shit goes on. Thats getting old. We do however, need a WH40k game, not necessarily along the lines of total war, but more probably as a 4X type game.
>>335006314
I hope I can find this without all the logos.
>>335007792
tolkien fantasy is the best fantasy though
>>335010660
Because its set during the same period as storm of chaos?
Because it won't crash 5 times during end turn?
>>335010660
You're asking for the gameplay formula to be so heavlily modified that it would no longer even resemble Total War. Why not instead ask for something like DoW 3.
And Call of Warhammer is unstable trash.
>>335010665
Just because it copied some aspects, doesn't mean it didn't greatly expand upon them.
>>335010619
You are a fag. I'm going to be playing Stellaris instead. Also Ultimate General >>>> Total War.
>>335006314
I'm looking forward to it.
I think the addition of fantastical elements is a really cool direction for a Total War game.
>>335010665
In terms of unit types, it is. The copy has been added to, LOTR died with Tolkien.
>>335010660
40K Total War wouldn't work, or make sense
200 space marines is like planetary annihilation level. 200 of anything in TW is like Ultra unit size of the lowest of tiers shit unit.
>>335010729
40K has gotten plenty of games though and is still getting more. Its got 2 third person action games, one being like Battlefield, and Dawn of War 1 and its several expansions and Dawn of War 2 with its 2 expansions.
>>335010807
its too pure to be raped by big AAA devs though. Third age TW is the best Tolkien game.
Literally the opposite of that lore abomination that shadows of mordor was.
>>335010889
>one battle
>comparable with total war
>>335010729
>We don't need another blandgame where muh >We do however, need a WH40k game
I honestly can't tell if this is ironic but judging by how 40k subhumans normally act I guess its real.
>>335009425
You're comparing a game where they basically showed no real gameplay footage up to release, to the most transparent release they've ever done. They even delayed it so reviewers and such could get a hold of it prior to release, adn youtubers can release let's plays
>>335010889
can't wait for the racial diversity DLC for 10$ and the racial diversity face packs for another 2$.
Oh, also the game breaks if you don't buy the racial diversity DLC :^)
>>335010985
>>335010882
Everyone instantly says it wouldn't work, but can't give any reason as to why.
Warscape handles melee and ranged battles really phenomenally, and 40k would fit great in the TW style of combat.
>>335010889
Stellaris looks a little too barebones in the base game personally. It has a lot of random elements and bits that can change, but so much of it seems to come together in a pretty typical 4x space package and doesn't do anything unique. Even the Endgame disasters aren't unique, games like Sword of the Stars have had things like that long before now.
Ultimate General was pretty fun though.
This game looks great so far aside from sieges.
Sieges look fucking awful. It's pretty concerning.
If you are hyped for this game, get ready to be disappointed.
Remember Rome 2. at launch.
>>335011205
no it wouldn't.
40k doesn't have giant armies footslogging in formation. It has giant armies fighting in planet spanning battles using a mixture of every 80s idea possible.
>>335011209
>>335010889
How's Stellaris compared to Distant Worlds?
>>335010729
>battlefleet gothic coming out in a few hours
>hurr we need another 40k game
Please don't think this asshole represents all 40k fans, /v/. A lot of us like Fantasy too.
>>335011205
Because it should be immediately obvious.
>40k will fit great with TW style of combat
Do they fight in maniples in 40k? No? Then it doesn't fit TW style of combat AT ALL.
>>335011342
Too late, I hate all of you, 95% of you are scum.
>>335011205
>but can't give any reason as to why.
Becuase automatic weaponry and no large troop formations
>>335011135
Ok. Enjoy being milked by Sega and enjoy 0 mods.
>>335010807
You do realize that Tolkien borrowed a lot of stuff from other stories and folklore, right? he didn't invent most of the shit.
Waitin for CA to anounce this guy as the Tzeentch LL
>>335011454
They've shown real gameplay footage months before Rome 2's release, that anon doesn't know anything and is clearly a liar.
>>335011542
>0 mods
>this is what steam workshop faggots believe.
They fucking told the Total war modders that they left the file system intact so that older mod tools could work on it. I can't wait when the day 2 faction unlocker is released.
>>335011560
he built a consistent mythos though.
>>335011623
The only ones I remember are the Carthage custom battle, and some Ambush thing.
>>335010986
>one battle
>comparable with total war
You still get the same variety. The only difference is one has functional AI and one does not. Oh and one isn't overpriced gloss.
>>335011623
they allowed reviewers, youtubers and the like to record the game directly from CA's office. They showed a recording of a multiplayer match between the CA community guy and the most popular youtuber.
>>335011682
And they didn't let the general public play them. Nor did they let a bunch of youtubers play an hour of campaign 2 months before release.
>>335011337
I've never played Distant Worlds, but heard generally positive things about it. The automation is supposed to mean that you can easily scale how autistic you want your control of the game to be, and it can be pretty damn deep if you want. The game has also been out a long time and has had lots of expansions and content added over the years.
Stellaris looks like it has more personality with the race customization and visuals, but the game seems pretty simple. Smaller maps and fewer races, higher emphasis on managing planet pops and internal populations over external threats. The game isn't even out yet and already feels like it's missing things in preparation for DLC (The game is seriously lacking an intelligence gathering/espionage system). I might say something like Endless Space would be comparable on release, although even Endless Space has more racial variation.
>>335006314
UNIT HPs WERE A MISTAKE!
Shogun 2 has perfected 1hp combat while with the new system the combat looks like shit with units fallin in heart attacks.
The matched animations looks shit. And those bloated hp-pools make combat seems like erratic shit.
>>335011682
And remember how the game was nothing like those battles?
Remember how they cut loads of content and animations we saw in those videos?
Remember how the AI was so literally broken for the first month you could attack them or conquer their city and they wouldn't react to it at all?
I'm incredibly hopeful for this game to be great. But if you are going to blindly believe it's going to be great after CA's track record you might actually be a battered house bitch.
>>335006314
>being excited about Warhammer Fantasy anything
People don't actually do this, right?
>>335011769
>All those poor fuckers who died from falling while climbing castle wall.
>>335011718
sure buddy. I get it CA is a big bad ebil boogeyman and gettysburg has an AI that has been optimized to work on 1 map, but it is clearly better.
Close combat is better because it had weather effects.
>>335011769
>shogun 2 had multiple HP units
>shogun 2 has matched combat
>Warhammer doesn't have that
>>335011808
It's not blind when they have been so transparent, you deluded fuck.
>People still sucking CA's cock this hard after the blunder of the decade that was Rome 2
I don't understand.
>>335011808
>multiplayer battle is scripted.
>the shitload of people who have recorded their own campaigns in CA's offices are scripted.
>all this WH40k hate
>all this WH fantasy hate
The only part of Warhammer one is not allowed to like is Age of Sigmar.
>>335011942
>on 1 map
I see you haven't played the game at all. Just because the setting is the battle of Gettysburg doesn't mean it's a single map.
>>335011964
Transparent how?
Playing battles that could very well be highly polished and scripting like they've literally been caught doing before?
And before you point to the Youtubers, keep in mind they didn't get copies of the game. They got invited to play a quick match on their level against a CA employee and record it for their channel.
That tells us literally nothing about AI, balancebalance looks like shit, but that can easily be fixed and is kind of expected with bringing lords into the game, bugs, or anything useful. Hell, in one of those battles we discovered that there aren't even animations for crumbling walls anymore, there's just a bad cloud of dust effect and then a giant hole.
Stop drinking the CA cummies and be cautious with your money around shady companies.
>>335012083
fanboys, anon.
>>335011205
>can't give any reason as to why
The scale is too big. Imagine bringing in basilisks for a siege. You'd be able to shoot the enemy or their fortifications from anywhere on the map. Or have your master of ordnance call in artillery barrages. You could theoretically kill your enemy without ever moving from your deployment area.
>>335011342
>battlefleet gothic
Will I keep my progress and all these ships and stuff?
>>335012224
It's getting wiped. Sorry mate.
>>335011623
They only let people publicly play one scripted battle, they never let anyone touch the full game until after it was released.
>>335006314
>a total war game that's not based on actual history
It's fucking shit and a waste of time. CA are fucking retarded faggots.
>>335012196
There's literally no reason they couldn't tone things done to work well within the game.
The only problem would be the screaming autist throwing tantrums about MUUUHHH COODDDEEEXXXX
>>335012120
They played entire campaigns as the vampire counts. CA must be god tier scripters to script everything from sieges to campaign decisions on the fly.
>>335012254
Thanks for the info
>>335012120
You can't get more transparent than releasing review copies weeks before the games released.
>>335012120
Ignoring youtubers, the game has been playable at numerous events for the general populous. Youtubers got to play an hour of campaign though. If you're going to claim that CA doctored it, I don't know what to tell you, other than my original deduction that you're a deluded fuck.
How does the balance look shit? Specifically. A wall crumbling animation has been replaced?! THE GAME IS RUINED. FUCKING CA KIKES STRIKE AGAIN!
>>335012083
Attila was good, and with warhammer they are clearly trying to be more transparent.
>>335012303
And now you're just lying or talking out of your ass.
Everyone was only allowed to play 20ish minutes of the campaign.
Like I originally said, the game looks good so far, and I hope it is, but you have to be actually retarded to fully believe everything you've seen or heard from CA.
>>335012083
>CA patches the game and makes it decent
>next game comes out that plays better and gets actual good DLC instead of meme unit packs.
>CA address community concerns actively.
>Rome2 was shit so every CA game since will be shit forever.
How many battle maps are in the game? With such a vast landscape, with unique monuments, they might have the most of the series
I really fucking need to see a siege battle where you can surround the city. It seems they 100% got rid of these, which is terrible.
>>335012476
they were allowed to record 30 minutes of the campaign. The smarter youtubers recorded campaign gameplay instead of the flashy battles. Hell one guy spent half an hour playing through the campaign and uploaded it instead of the battles.
>>335012476
No, you're the one lying or talking out of your ass. They got an hour to play, which they got to choose to divide between the two scenarios and the vampire counts campaign. Why are you lying? What's your agenda here?
>>335010729
>My opinions are facts
>>335012603
>I really fucking need to see a siege battle where you can surround the city. It seems they 100% got rid of these, which is terrible.
Either the cities have to be tiny like in other TW games, or full sized and you're only able to siege part of it.
>>335012303
>entire campaigns as the vampire counts
>>335012413
>Youtubers got to play an hour of campaign though
Not that guy but which is it? Also link?
I'd like to see what this game is all about
I remember when Total War thread were chill as fuck.
What happened?
>>335012697
Every single city doesn't have to be fuckhueg in scale. Plenty of Rome 2/Attila maps were big and could be assault from sea and land from all sides
>>335012712
Rome 2 divided the community, than Warhammer has divided it again
>>335012712
they still are on /vg/. People post their campaigns, laugh at shitters, help modders and shitpost about CA employees.
>>335012296
>There's literally no reason they couldn't tone things done to work well within the game.
Yeah, they already did that - it's called Dawn of War.
I mean imagine something like armies travel time, and apply that to a setting that has teleporters, drop pods and Thunderhawks.
When 40k meets Total War you have to start cutting away elements of one or the other to make them fit, and eventually you'll get something unrecognizable.
I'm not saying a 40k 4X wouldn't be fun, but Total War isn't necessarily the series that should be the one to do it.
>>335012262
But mods like the third age are fine though, right?
>>335012790
>Plenty of Rome 2/Attila maps were big
Not realistically, historically cities were much larger, and even the biggest Rome 2 / Attila maps would of been about the size of a small fishing village IRL. The armies the actually sieged them were also 10x larger than the ones in Total War.
>>335012704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSzaiblZq88
They had an hour to play 2 scenarios and 40 turns in the Vampire Counts campaign. This video is just one example of many.
>>335012792
>they still are on /vg/
>>335012892
Which is fine because this is a game. It is not fun to look at these siege battle videos, and the map is tiny while the backdrop is a massive fuckhueg city. Scale that shit down so we can actually use the map. They think if you lose the walls, you lost the battle so there is no reason to design anything 2 city blocks deep.
>>335012954
>go to /vg/
>thread discusses about upcoming attila mods, helping people out with m2 mod installations, people posting their campaigns all they while talking about warhammer.
>come to /v/
>"where is my 40k Total War"
>>335012968
That's exactly what has happened in every siege battle they've shown though. The battle is pretty wrapped up once the walls have fallen.
>>335012951
Thanks anon
>>335013043
>thread discusses about upcoming attila mods, helping people out with m2 mod installations, people posting their campaigns all they while talking about warhammer.
>>335010729
>We do however, need a WH40k game, not necessarily along the lines of total war, but more probably as a 4X type game
>not necessarily along the lines of total war
Ok.. so why do you feel the need to come in and shit up this thread over it?
>>335013043
>>335012954
honestly, /twg/ is one of the few good generals, although it went to complete shit during the time between TW:W announcement and the establishment of /his/
>>335013140
>/v/ thread is all about posting golden faces
>eventually some turd is going to come in and start asking why this game isn't on console.
>>335013047
There is no other way to play it though, you can't retreat units from nearby the walls because that is the size of the map. Look at Shogun 2's tiered cities, losing the first layer doesn't mean you lost the battle entirely.
The way its designed is just dumb too, why would every army always attack that one side, no matter the way they siege the city? It just makes me want to auto-resolve even more instead of doing boring ass siege battles where your options are limited going in
>>335013151
/twg/ is unrecognizable now after Warhammer fans invaded it.
All the decent people seemed to have left and all that's in their wake is LE ORK MASTURRACE xDD NO FUK U! KILL MAIM BURN! shitposting
>>335013308
because siege battles are always lost when you lose the fucking walls. Shogun 2 settlements were all castles, not cities.
>>335011337
Distant worlds is the gold standard for autism 4X. It literally shits on every other game in the genre in terms of complexity yet manages to provide enough layers of automation that you can still enjoy it if you don't have enough autism to micro manage every single aspect of your huge galactic empire.
>>335013308
>you can't retreat units from nearby the walls because that is the size of the map.
But they've released videos of them doing just that?
>>335013308
Are you honestly implying you sieged from multiple walls against the fucking AI? Stop bullshitting me anon. If anything, the siege changes should have the opposite effect.
>The AI should be more competent.
>There is more room to maneuver.
>Garrisons are gigantic.
>Towers have infinite range
>There is actual incentive to hold the walls instead
Christ, compare that to every other Total War siege offense that is a total snoozefest because you're fighting against a shitty garrison that you can bombard with out them even having a chance to hurt you.
>>335013384
nah, its still recognizable. They are talking about the upcoming game now. Its exactly what happened when that russian TES TW mod was released.
>>335013594
>There is actually incentive to hold the walls instead of forsaking them right off the bat to hide your men in the much more defensible streets.
Accidentally deleted the end of that one.
>>335013768
don't worry, this is what passes for more realistic city battles, even though what Leo Civil UEFS did with his mod was a rougher version of Exactly what the CA design team did with their city layouts.
So, is it coming to PS4K?
For anyone curious with what Leo Civil UEFS did, he basically redid the pathways of the settlements so that the AI could always find the route into the town square easily and directly. Doing that required that he remove several medieval 2 buildings and he replaced them with the third age assets, several of which he built from scratch.
As a result you had those god tier elven large towns in the game with those raised Machaans.
>>335014289
logically. gotta compete against Halo Wars 2 (which offers M and KB support IIRC) somehow.
Is losing a fight even viable in Total War, let alone a siege?
I feel like losing at least one fight in TW is a death sentence and load the save game after I did.
>>335014405
>I feel like losing at least one fight in TW is a death sentence and load the save game after I did.
That sounds incredibly boring.
>>335014389
CA is developing halo wars 2 though.
>>335014405
>he doesn't play on legendary with total war challenge mode
>>335014465
That's why I asked. Have you ever lose a fight in TW? Have you ever been outplayed by AI?
>>335014534
The AI tends to go for more decisive battles now. Cheesing the AI by abusing machine gun towers doesn't really count.
>>335014534
Everyone has, even you as you earlier admitted. It happens. Play the WRE campaign in Attila and you'll be losing a whole lot of battles that are simply unavoidable. It's part of the fun.
That fat girl CA roll out for every video puts me off. It's obvious pandering and just as obviously she knows nothing about gaming but is there just to make inane cooing noises and provide verbal prompts for the game devs.
>>335010729
Fantasy is the only thing that works in total war.
>>335014608
>even you as you earlier admitted.
That's because I'm shit at TW. I wanted to know if the pros lose too.
>Play the WRE campaign in Attila and you'll be losing a whole lot of battles that are simply unavoidable.
That does sound pretty good, actually.
>>335014684
>joey berry was known for making warhammer fantasy battle videos
>she made stuff that was made to help newbies.
>she answers lore questions
>hurr durr pandering.
>>335014684
I'm against all this SJW pandering as much the next guy, but you just sound really fucking stupid with this post. She's the community manager you weenie.
>>335014684
Except she is very knowledgeable of Warhammer Fantasy. Except she won the scenario that Rome 1 champion, Prince of Manlets lost. Obviously she knows something about gaming.
>>335014821
>I'm against all this SJW pandering as much the next guy
>you weenie
No. The toddlerspeak gives you away.
>>335014842
DELETE THIS
>>335014895
She was hired because she knows the ins and outs of the tabletop game. They hire autistic britbongs that make Lets plays like darren.
>>335014684
please, she's won rallypoint battles that TW ecelebs have lost. I find her voice a bit annoying at times, but consider she is a) the community manager and b) not completely shit at the game there's literally no problem having her there.
>>335014405
I've always felt this in every TW game I've ever played.
If the faction-heir goes down, then it's time to load.
>>335015046
>not playing EB1 in your authentic europa barbarorum boxers
>not making your bactrian kingdom into an heterogenic indohellenic kingdom.
>>335014405
Yeah I get this too.
Like, what if one of your legendary lords go down?
Who the fuck can possibly afford to lose someone like that?
>>335015203
Legendary lords cannot be killed
The same way as Napoopan
>>335015203
LLs are like napoleon. They come back after a while. Regular lords and heroes die permanently.
>>335015046
>not keeping your faction-heir nicely tucked in your main city
>>335010729
>not necessarily along the lines of Total War
Then what's the fucking problem? WHF works as a TW game where 40k doesn't, and while a 40k strategy game sounds good, CA isn't going to be the one to do it. So why the hell do you have faggots like
>>335007583
who are complaining that the franchise famous for regiment combat up to black powder doesn't feature their future-tech skirmish game spinoff husbando?
>>335014895
>get called out by everyone
>'m-muh boogeyman'
just fuck off you faggot
>>335014405
>>335015203
>save scumming
>ever
>>335015269
>not having him build character by being on the front lines of every fight
>raising a wimp to lead when the king dies
>>335015379
This. How do you expect to ever get better if you just save scum through life.
>>335010665
In terms of a wargame yes, because the Warhammer world was designed whole-cloth for fightan whereas Middle Earth's world was mostly elaborated from the framework of a few individuals of interest.
>>335015382
Dead people can't lead.
>>335014684
I don't like her either, but she's the farthest thing from a GURLL GAMMERR
She actually plays Warhammer and is a much better TW player than that fag that losses every battle they pull out for videos.
I think you might have a problem with women, Anon. How's your relationship with your mother?
Warhammer shitposting aside, TW games are my most fun RP-games.
I can RP as any type of ruler I want and do all sorts of stupid crazy shit.
I hope I can go off the rails in TW:WH too.
Time to see if I can't get the Vampirefags to make peace with the Dwarfs!
>>335006314
has there ever been a total war game with extensive use of magic spells that change the battle field?
>>335015294
So much butthurt its delicious. Enjoy your broken game goy
>>335015465
>literally raising Joffrey
If my faction heir has a bodyguard, that means he should be the first into battle and the last out of it.
>>335014405
The problem with TW is the AI is bad so if it actually manages to beat you then you've fucked up bad. It'd be viable if the AI was smarter and scorched earth became a viable tactic.
>>335015517
Butthurt? I'm the one who's getting the game I want. If anyone's butthurt, it's 40k fags.
>>335015481
you can. Don't let Arch know though.
>>335015553
Whatever samefag
>>335015575
Fuck I'm going to see if I can't have the Orks finally make peace with the humies.
>>335015746
Where you from, slick?
>>335006314
Is it still using that completely fucked engine they've been using since Empire?
>tfw no WHFB
>>335015963
Yep.
>spend money building a cool ass warhammer fantasy army since it has the best fantasy universe this side of Nirn
>jew workshop scrap the entire thing for some god awful replacement game called Age of Sigmar or some shit
>everything was still in its plastic wrapping so get my mum to return it to the shops as 'mistakenly bought birthday presents'
blunder of the century. why are they even using a setting that doesn't exist any more in the video game anyway?
I'm going back to Spartan Games.
>>335015379
>jojoshitter
back to /a/
>Vampire Counts are included at launch
>led by Blandfred von Carstein
This thread shows that Warhammer fantasy fanbois are a bunch of completely immature manchildren. But I guess I'm not really surprised seeing as they worship a game that perpetually lives in the shadows of its better older brother.
Good job being a further nail in the gaming industry's coffin. You should all kill yourselves, preferebly en-masse.
>>335016079
>he thinks Age of Sigmar is canon
The new building system in Shogun 2 threw me off. Last game TW game I've played is Rome, where you can build pretty much everything.
How should I manage them?
>>335016125
It is
>"Surrender and serve me in life, or die and slave for me in death."
Vampire Cunts day 1.
>>335016112
>Good job being a further nail in the gaming industry's coffin. You should all kill yourselves, preferebly en-masse.
Congratulations on being another dime a dozen cynic.
>>335016112
>expecting people who pay hundreds of dollars for cheap plastic toys to not be manchildren
after the shamfur dispray of rome 2
not very excited of any total war game anymore
>>335015963
I love this meme.
>>335016125
Does it matter if it's canon or not? WHFB is no longer supported by GW, you can't play it in their stores, it's 40k and Sigmarines only now.
>>335016135
optimize the provinces. If a place has high fertility, you turn it into a breadbasket. If it is close to the frontline, you turn it into a recruiting ground or an arena. If a place has a resource, you tool the province to produce maximum amounts of it and making max money. >>335016112
*tips
>>335016236
Attila turned out to be the best TW game though
>>335006314
I've been perpetually disappointed by CA for their last 4 releases, maybe more. Shogun 2 was somewhat of a step back on track I guess buy still got a lot wrong.
>>335010667
>Warhammer and Overwatch releasing on the same day
Which one will PC elitist pick
>>335010806
That human looks very board to be there
>>335016135
You got to make specialist cities. Ones with good farmland you turn into cashcows, ones with good military bonuses you make specialized training cities, etc. I was the same but really it's very simple once you realize every city doesn't have the potential to do everything anymore.
>>335014684
>girl in any video game position
>WOW WHAT THE FUCK SJW PANDERING STAY AWAY FROM MY GAMES BITCHES
>Still giving money to GW.
Why? Warhammer is a mediocre tabletop game, 40k is an awful tabletop game, they are overpriced, GW are the most asshole company in gaming, they killed fantasy instead of addressing player issues, every race has to wait like a decade for a codex when a new SPEEES MARINE codex or a variant is released annually.
I can't wait for launch day.
I mean, I know it'll be a buggy barely playable mess, but isn't that kinda' part of the charm of these games?
You just fucking know it'll be barely functional, but that'll make it all the sweeter when that first 19 gigabyte day-one patch comes out.
>>335016368
Because the competition is shit
>>335016286
>>335016331
> If it is close to the frontline, you turn it into a recruiting ground or an arena.
But isn't your frontline gonna keep expanding the more you conquer? Is it viable/mandatory to repurpose your cities after that happened?
Am I the only one who doesn't give a single fuck about warhammer lore? TW desperately needed some kind of fantasy setting and it's finally getting it. So instead of arcadey "historically accurate" bullshit there will be new fun gameplay mechanics and races that are actually different from each other, not just by some stats.
>>335016368
>Implying anyone wants to play with your little plastic toys when they can get real entertainment in the form of videogames
LOL
>>335016295
So you're saying we should wait 1yr until they release the next TW:W that isn't broken like with Rome?
>>335016378
They've delayed the game and are going to be releasing review copies weeks before launch, so there is a good chance it'll be in a good state.
>>335016079
Because they were contracted to make it before knowing what was about to happen to the setting?
>>335016368
better than Mantic
KoW is a good system, sure, but the models are terrible
>>335016409
What? Pretty much every tabletop war game out there plays better than GW games. 40k especially is the most tediously slow and archaic tabletop game out there.
>>335016418
>You got to make specialist cities. Ones with good farmland you turn into cashcows, ones with good military bonuses you make specialized training cities, etc. I was the same but really it's very simple once you realize every city doesn't have the potential to do everything anymore.
its your call. Personally I only expand to an extent and just subjugate states beyond the border.
>>335016295
That title is still shared by M:TW and Shogun 2. Atilla was what Rome 2 should have been.
>>335016418
Eventually. I didn't play a lot of Shogun 2 but my strategy when I did was to have two types of recruitment cities. Ones behind the frontline that were tooled towards recruiting a specific type of unit only to elite standards and 'frontline' cities which otherwise weren't good for much else but were capable of pumping out lower-quality troops much closer to where they were needed.
>>335016368
the lore in fantasy is really good, i know its a pretty much a hardcore version of tolkien but its still great
the wood elves are bad ass
>>335016494
Good settings, Age of Sigmar set aside
Model quality is still great, even if other companies are catching up
>>335006314
I was until I found out it was delayed.
Now it releases the same day asOverwatch.
>>335016472
>review copies
Damn, they must really be hoping for good scores to pull that kinda' move.
You are all equally faggoty. I'm feeling lonely, can I get some (You)'s please.
335016660
no, fuck off
>>335016539
>d
no it isn't
M2 is good because of the extensive modding.
S2 is good because it was CA got their marketing in gear.
>>335016574
Once you are done fapping to tracer, TW will always be there. I doubt that there is an intersection between the two fanbases.
>>335016125
They've discontinued Fantasy in favor of AoS. That's about as canon as it gets.
@335016660
not from me
>>335016583
Pissed Pedro and the TW youtubers don't are going to do lets' plays.
>>335016687
I didn't say M2 you stupid fuck. Shogun 2 had nothing to due with marketing, how does that make a game good?
Are you fucking retarded or something?
>>335016765
>@335016660
>>>/reddit/
>>335016832
He's avoiding giving (You)s
>>335016539
>M:TW
For it's time maybe, it's barely playable these days
>>335016112
>perpetually lives in the shadow of its better older brother
Well, it was almost good bait.
Warhammer Total Garbage more like
>>335014684
very pathetic of you, just sayin'
@335016832
thanks
>>335016814
Shogun 2 was popular as hell because it added steam workshop support. So you had retards finally capable of using mods and had a shitload of sales.
>>335016472
you mean the reviews by their select circle jerks who will say anything they are told to say and not their own opinion, just the same as pretty much any game these days
>>335016112
>Good job being a further nail in the gaming industry's coffin
Why? 5 butthurt 40k fanboys don't represent popular opinion, no matter how hard they work to ruin any thread on this game
>>335016952
They are giving it to people who openly shit on Rome 2.
>>335016952
>youtubers who make money off let's play campaigns.
>they are all shills for CA.
>even though they all blasted CA for the celt DLC.
>>335016368
GW are a weird company.
They kill their good games like War of the Ring, Mordheim, Blood Bowl, Epic, but leave their main games completely fucked and tedious to play.
For example, the best way to fix Fantasy would have been implement War of the Rings ruleset, where the phase system means both players are always doing something and nobody is just waiting for the other player to complete their turn through all the phases.
Not that Games Workshop gives a fuck, they survive entirely on milking their true believers and brand recognition.
>>335016927
Steam workshop is still a shitty place to get mods for TW games. Even more so when S2 was released.
Shogun 2 had the best UI, CA finally got the 3D models fighting like normal people, and dat music.
The only downside you could find in S2 was the setting. A limited number of units and the terrain was mostly the same.
>>335016079
>get my mum to return it to the shops
return it yourself you entitled cocksmoker
>>335017043
>War of the Ring
this was justified
LOTR was a fantastic system and had support from GW for years, but no one had touched either of its systems for half a decade
>>335017087
Why do you care?
>>335017043
>tfw awaiting a DHL courier to deliver GW goodies to my domicile tomorrow
>>335017061
which is why radious became popular for cutting and pasting his units right?
The workshop was a massive shot in the arm for smaller scale modders, which is why CA outright said that S2 was their most modded game.
>>335016108
>MANNfred von Carstein not being the ONLY Vampire Lord fighting and caring about the Old World
piss off you snot
>>335013043
>/vg/
>constant CA dik succ
>now with added /his/ vs /tg/ shitposting
>/v/
>just shitposting but at least people are more honest
>>335017043
Specialist Games are making a comeback, bro.
>>335017259
>/v/
>just shitposting but at least people are more cynical
ftfy
>>335017223
>DHL
Ach Bernd, du dumme Schwein.
>>335014842
To be fair, PoM was backseat general-ing her, and fucking finally got them to use Raise the Dead
>>335017259
>/v/
>"s2 was the best because muh oiled gooks"
>people still think that warscape is the engine for the game
honest about their lack of knowledge, sure.
>Nobody plays Infinity.
I still have my boxes of Infinity models in my garage after /tg/ claimed it was the next big thing.
Amazing ruleset, fucking awesome models, never was able to gain traction for some reason. I implemented some of the models into my eldar army though since the Infinity models are just fucking sex.
>>335017324
Honesty, cynicism, is there really a difference when it comes to modern vidya games?
>>335017326
Not german brah. Amazon expedited delivery to aus is DHL.
>tfw will arrive just in time for a long weekend
>>335017324
If you aren't cynical about CA releases you have brain damage.
I hop this game is amazing and playable on release. I really do. But I'm doubtful.
>>335017324
Cynism sure beats delusional hype everyday.Until the need to kill self appears
>>335017246
Mannfred is just so fucking boring. Vlad and Konrad oozed personality, while Mannfred is just there.
He's pretty shitty too. They have to constantly say that he was the most dangerous of the Von Carsteins, because absolutely nothing in his lore supports that. Fucking Konrad got closer to conquering the Empire than he did, and that guy couldn't even summon a single skeleton and was only ever turned into a vampire because Vlad thought he was funny
>>335017087
Are you stupid?
Returning it yourself makes it obvious what you're doing. They will reject you immediately.
A mother pretending to be stupid about her son's warhams games is much more convincing to the sadsack at the brick & mortar.
>>335017424
>CA lets you play against the factions even if you don't buy them.
>CA is evil
>Paradix break their game with every expansion.
>lol, based johann.
Will it have Lizardmen? If not, DROPPED.
>>335017259
>/vg/
>fans of the game talking about the game among themselves
>most of them (obviously) like TW, but they also know their shit
>/v/
>shitposters who have played maybe 5 hours across the entire franchise
>don't even come close to knowing their shit
>hey, but at least they have 'dissenting opinions'
>>335017430
>cynical
>outright lying is cynicism.
>>335017509
>CA lets you play against the factions even if you don't buy them.
>play against
Did you even read what you wrote or are you that incredibly delusional?
>>335017509
What is with CAndroids and need to compare themselves to Parajew every time?
>>335016112
>acting this childish because they game isn't 40k.
wew lad. This mutual destruction mindset is cringeworthy as fuck
>>335017632
This
The /v/ threads are full of misinfo and outdated info. Oh and shit like:
>Empire is the most well made total war game, while rome 2 is bad.
>>335017664
because Paradox has scummier tactics but a better PR team.
When you blame CA for blood DLC but say that paradox has a good business model for selling mongol faces, thats some gymnastics.
>>335017636
They literally do. You can kill the slavs even if you didn't buy the Slavic DLC
You can kill the sandpeople if you didn't buy the sandpeople DLC
You can kill the irish even if you don't buy the Celts DLC
Relic does the same thing with their games. Its better than breaking the game so that you need to buy the DLC outright.
>>335017505
I don't know what GW's returns policy is, but I assume they don't make a distinction between a mom returning 'gifts' and someone just changing their mind about their purchase.
>>335017918
I think he was talking about the way the game ships with DLC that you need to pay to unlock
>>335018009
It is the same for post release content as well. At least CA pretty much said outright that SEGA was their sugar daddy and gave them money for developing the WoC
>>335017664
Because they have no defense for CA's incredibly retarded marketing merchanting, so they just jump to a company that's even worse to rationalize it.
>>335017918
>When you blame CA for blood DLC but say that paradox has a good business model for selling mongol faces, thats some gymnastics
Literally nobody is saying that but you.
>>335010994
40k is alright but its easily the most autistic of the two settings and attracts a fucking sperglord cancerous fanbase. If you read some /tg/ shit its literally >muh newcrons >muh mahreens >muh techpreests. Even in TT its well known fantasy is the gentlemans game.
>>335018197
>If you read some /tg/ shit its literally >muh newcrons >muh mahreens >muh techpreests
End of Times is literally the exact same though...
>>335018197
was* the gentleman's game.
>>335018184
>>When you blame CA for blood DLC but say that paradox has a good business model for selling mongol faces, thats some gymnastics
>Literally nobody is saying that but you.
It is an extremely common comparison that is made on places like TWCenter. You know, the place where modders actually make mods.
>>335018251
And no one liked End Times, which is why shit like Endhammer exists
>>335018257
>gw pulls support for it
>it means your minis turn to ash overnight and your old codices are blank.
>>335018365
The end times are near brother
>>335018365
9th Age is a better system than 8th too. I just hope fan support will continue ala Epic
>>335018365
Tell that to the Blood Bowl and War of the Ring fans.
>>335018260
I've literally never heard anyone defend Paradox but shit on CA out of CAshill strawmanning. Which happens almost every time you bring up CAs long list of sketchy shit.
I really don't understand this undying devotion to companies so many people have. I've played every TW since Rome for hundreds of hours each, and I have no problem admitting CA is circling the drain in terms of business practices and bugs.
>>335018197
>its well known fantasy is the gentlemans game
No. It's all autistic bullshit for spergburglar retards. That's part of the fun.
If you can't simply enjoy the games without the need to make stupid comparisons, you're just cancer and need to fuck off forever.
>>335018494
Does GW hire ninjas to break into your house and steal your stuff?
you can still play the games with other people
>>335018559
Sure, but lack of support means that the playerbase is going to wither away to near nothing. Good luck finding someone outside of your immediate circle of friends to play fantasy with in ten years.
>>335018537
Which is why Attila has had substantial content releases right?
Or the fact that SEGA eased off CA after rome 2.
Or the facts that they have gone in details about everything ranging from how they make their ingame cinematics to why they are charging for certain factions.
Or the fact that they are allowing lets plays and recorded footage before the game is released. On the other hand Paradoxfags are elitists that will look at spreadsheets and watch random dicerolls because it is deeper gameplay, even though the campaign is as shallow as a puddle.
>>335018559
>mfw he doesn't know about the ninjas
>>335018537
I've seen dozens of people defending Paradox's DLC models
fucking kek at the 40k fans in this thread.
And fuck me what a shitty setting that was
I'm very excited. It's the only game I want this year.
>>335018776
Paradox is a pillar of PC gaming. They are an example for all other companies to follow in terms of the value for money, quality controlled releases and on going support and community inclusion.
>>335018549
>have to be competent at painting difficult mediums like blades/heraldic devices/plate armour etc
>War machines are actually detailed like the steam tank or doomwheel and require more effort than a spray and drybrush like 99% 40k vehicles
>Have to keep units in formations and attempt to get the best charges/shield your front lines.
Yeah its all autistic but fantasy requires more input, patience and skill and its fanbase aren't even close to as cancerous and meme spouting as 40k's
>>335018776
Right, but those are the same kinds of shills as this Anon. No one has ever said, "CA IS SHIT BUT PARADOX IS OKAY!" like he just stated.
>>335018730
And here comes the full force shilling. Tell us all about how day one DLC is okay and paying for blood options is okay and how reusing assets for DLC is okay and how releasing broken games is okay and how shitting out that lazy recycled DLC while the games are riddled with bugs is okay.
Maybe strawman about how I think Paradox is good or something. That'll show me.
>>335018920
That is a byproduct of it's popularity though.
>>335018920
>but muh true patrician game
The cancer is real.
>>335019013
warhammer fantasy is a better game but a worse universe
admit it you fag
>>335018965
>And here comes the full force shilling. Tell us all about how day one DLC is okay and paying for blood options is okay and how reusing assets for DLC is okay and how releasing broken games is okay and how shitting out that lazy recycled DLC while the games are riddled with bugs is okay.
>day 1 DLC
not defending it
>blood DLC
not defending it
>releasing broken games
like what? Rome2? The one they spent patching instead of abandoning it?
Attila, whose greatest bug was that sometimes factions preferred to raze settlements rather than sack and resettle them?
But no, you would rather circlejerk about how CA games have been getting worse and worse and how shogun 2 was the pinnacle of Total war when the entire game was streamlined to hell and back.
WH40k > _ > _ > ..... > WHFaggotry
>>335019082
>but a worse universe
even that is arguable
40k is cool, but its been going downhill since 3rd edition
>>335019215
this. fantasy doesn't even have homoerotic overtones and people actually live decent lives.
>>335019123
>ignores the literal lies upon lies CA told about Rome 2
>ignores all the bugs Attila had, one of which, the random formation breaks that made playing any Germanic or tetsudo using faction pointless, just got fixed two months ago. A full YEAR after release
>proceeds to strawman me for the second time
I really don't understand the mind of shills.
>>335019082
>setting where autistic space soldiers battle against communist weaboos
vs
>setting where dickless lizard people fight against pissed off egyptian zombies
It's all just ridiculous bullshit. Enjoy it.
>>335019082
they are on par with one another because they work on similar principles of making a parody of human history (necrons/tombkings=Egyptians etc) and putting it in a setting which ultimately isn't that original but it makes for a colourful world and you're bound to like something about it. Pretty much every fantasy player you'll meet is a pretty chill guy while 40k can attract absolute cunts.
>>335019274
>fantasy doesn't have homoerotic overtones
Neither does 40k unless you count its fanbase.
>>335019382
>random formation breaks
you mean when charging in a defensive formation takes you out of it?
>Literal lies CA told
>ignores that CA has let people who make videos shitting on CA have access to the games and will let them have access to the game before it begins so that people can watch the gameplay and make up their minds
>proceeds to whine about strawmen
>>335019417
i can agree with that.
40k just attracts so many bros. whenever i played fantasy it was always like "nice giant, he fucked me up. we had good times. gg"
and 40k is like "DUDE BULLSHIT TERMINATORS WOULD TOTALLY BEAT THOSE GUYS FUCKING GFSDGASOKP"
>>335019497
>space marines injecting their geneseed into little boys.
>not homoerotic
>>335019274
>fantasy doesn't even have homoerotic overtones
Wasn't Queen Khalida gay?
>>335019867
>some tomb kang slut munched sandy carpets
>this is the same as >>335019660
>>335019867
Her cousin Neferata sure as fuck was after she got bored of Vlad and Abhorash's dick
Lahmians literally just sit around having lesbian orgies all day
>>335019971
Don't move those goalposts, mate.
An actual gay character (which she might not even be) is more homoerotic than mere symbolism.
>>335020096
>a character exists
>who may or may not be gay.
>it is more homoerotic than giant muscle men squirting their seed inside little boys so that they can grow up to be giant muscle men.
That is turkish wrestling tier.
>>335020096
I wouldn't even call it symbolism. It's more like taking something non-sexual and framing it up in the most sexualized way possible. Which goes back to the point that 40k's homoeroticism is muhreen memery.
>>335018008
>I don't know what GW's returns policy is
They're jews and will do everything they can to make sure you don't get your money back.
This has been their policy for several decades now.
>>335020253
>a gay character is more homoerotic than not gay characters
I'm not real sure why you are having so much trouble with this.
>>335014405
Well in games like Shogun 2 or Rome 2 it's literally impossible to lose even if you're outnumbered 5:1.
>>335020345
>>335020345
its never clearly stated that she is gay.
Much like it is implied that malekith was fucking his mom but never stated outright.
>>335020445
Alright.
Then as one anon pointed out, Neferata is gay. So there's definitely at least one lesbian character.
>>335020489
Yes, and space wolves literally become furries that are super speshul and resistant to chaos. This means that 40k is a font for furries.
>>335020561
Ok?
Are you the anon I was responding to? What do the space wolves have to do with anything?
>>335020045
>ever getting tired of vladdy daddy
that never made sense to me
>>335020672
I was making the point that GW cranked everything up to ridiculous levels and now its easy to see the cracks in the setting of 40k.
>>335020760
Sure, but that's a completely different conversation.
>>335006314
It looks pretty fun so far desu, even though I don't have any interest or past experience with Warhammer, and there is plenty of new features to mix it up.
It better be an amazing fuggin' TW game to make me forgive and forget past and present Creative Assembly jewry though. Even then I'll probably wait for a sale so I can get the whole package without having to empty my wallet.
>>335016358
>>335016358
it's the monster the sjw's created
>>335010729
You're getting a Battlefleet Gothic rts today you stupid fucking nigger.
>>335016112
>older brother
ya blew it
>>335011560
>he didn't invent most of the shit.
Spotted the babby who didn't even read the Hobbit.
inspiration =/= borrowed from
>>335008429
>Sucks Bretonnia won't be playable in campaigns
Notice Joey said "at launch" which was a pretty big hint that they'll be added later.
>>335010497
The same idiots that think ww1/2 would work in a TW setting.
>>335020726
Why is based Vlad such a bro along with Abhorash and Ushoran?
>>335026208
reminder Vlad's end goal was to end the succession wars and internal squabbling of the empire by naming himself Emperor
reminder Vlad singlehandedly turned Sylvania from a shithole to the richest provence
reminder based Vlad did NOTHING wrong
>>335017246
>confusing based Vlad with Mannlet
>>335006314
I am really confused.
I love total war, but the DLC politics and the terrible battle KI always drag the experience down.
It's like they have Chaos and Bretonnia already in it, but just try to shill out another 10-20 bucks with it. It would be okay if its only the money, but you kinda of feel "tricked".
>>335026541
Agreed. Also he didn't look at people as cattle, and had actual feelings for Isabela...well not immediately. At first he did wanted to use her, but when time passed he slowly started to see her as something more and actually, genuinely fell in love with her. Not to mention that he was at first against turning her into a vampire.
And End Times showed that the dude actually is one of the few guys who gives a damn about the world.
Wished he were in TW: Warhammer, but instead we get that spoiled manchild Manfred.
>>335026781
They have stated that Bretonnia is never going to be paid dlc.
>>335026781
I would fork out for the preorder but the Chaos thing was like a cold shower.
They actually want to release a game with only base 4 factions.
What the fuck is that?
>>335026920
The same thing that Dawn of War and Battlefleet Gothic and Dawn of War 2 and Mordheim all did. I guess it's not okay when CA does it though.
>>335027303
>assuming hypocrisy when you have no evidence either way
This is the absolute worst and you fucking faggots do it all the time.
>>335014405
Save powers scum
fight with some honor
>>335027448
>Pretty much every multi-faction Warhammer game follows the same pattern
>What the fuck were CA thinking following the same pattern
Nah, you're just a tard.
>>335027303
Dawn of War started with 4 races but no "we really had so much time we made an additional race before release! HONEST! Just surrender your wallet now."
I don't know anything about Gothic preorder bonuses.
>>335027630
See you're making the mistake of thinking I'm that guy.
I have no idea what he thinks about it, but I just wanted to call you out on your bullshit.
>>335027673
BFG is adding SPEHSS MAHRINES as a preorder bonus, but it's not on-disc from what people can tell
This will be the last Warhammer Fantasy game
Let that sink in, after this it is all dead. No tabletop, no WFRP 4rd edition, no more books, no more games
It will be Age of Sigmar shit from here on out
>>335027860
Man'o'War is in alpha
>>335027953
I'm sure a Dreadfleet game is on the cards too
>>335027729
Space Marines as DLC, but also another faction later on.
Hoping for Necrons or Nids.
>>335027673
That wasn't the case for total war either though. They made a barebones Bretonnia roster, out of necessity since they take up a fifth of the old world, and they are going to flesh out and them release for free later.
>>335027708
I didn't assume that, though. I simply expanded my point so that you would stop being a tard. Sadly you persist.
>>335027860
Dunno about AoS. If Betrayal at Calth outsold anything AoS had, then you can see how people are interested in ti.
What these games need is actual friendly fire. It's fucking dumb that a charging cavalry unit smash into a thin line of enemies fighting your guys and only the enemies die, while the cavalry courtiously stops right before hitting a friendly faggot.
They also need to remove the missile bonus protection from friendly archer fire.
>>335028012
Apparently there's an iOS Battlefleet game with nids in it that was just announced, so they're the likely choice. Nid ships would be fucking cool to see too.
I'm expecting a Tau fleet eventually too, given how popular they are on tabletop right now
>>335027729
Did anybody seen those ships?
They at least make a good decision not to rub this in peoples faces year before release.
Plus at least there is Imperial Navy already.
When they marked as preorder bonus fucking CHAOS, I thought it was a elaborate joke.
So shitposting does increase as the release nears
First time witnessing this phenom
>>335028196
They already have ships made? Is there no escape from these content cutting kikes ruining my Warhammer games?
>>335010806
Impressive, they've managed to show 50% of all units available to orks and empire in a single cover.
>>335026208
I don't even want Ushoran as a LL just give us some strigoi as one of the basic lords and heros options.
>>335016108
They have another LL I think
>>335006314
I would be but CA always puts out a broken, unfinished product. It's going to be shit and broken or broken as fuck until some updates or expansion
Also their what used to be unlockables is now dlc is bullshit
Why do people praise Atilla total war? It's basically Rome 2, but with two new gimmicks, one for siege, and horde.
>>335028150
Tau are most likely. Tyranids would need to be reworked for the engine, and Necrons probably need some major testing done judging by how the Eldar were released.
>>335028284
The strike cruiser shows up in the launch trailer. That's it. Calm your autism.
>>335027860
Is there really the need for another fantasy game?
Considering the modern tendencies it would have ended up being an ASSFAGGOTS probably
AoS is more suited for that
>>335028284
Nothing I know about. That is why I'm asking.
Chaos was visible in first trailer.
Chaos Warriors preorder promo was like the second trailer available to see for TWW.
I did not see any promo for Gothic with Space Marines.
>>335028150
>IOS
I bloody hate IOS games. They take an awesome concept sometimes and butcher it beyond recognition.
They did it with Freeblade. It would've been and awesome game on either consoles or PC (seriously, potential for a 40K Mechwarrior game with Imperial Knights, shitloads of customizations and more).
INSTEAD WE GET A SHIT RAILSHOOTER WITH EQUALLY SHITTY STUFF!! ALSO YOU CANNOT UNLOCK CERTAIN THINGS WITHOUT BUYING THEM...WITH REAL CASH!
>>335028474
Hoping so. Strigoi kick asses as much as Blood Dragons.
>>335016112
I feel like playing the meat violin on my wrists from all that edge. JFC lad who hurt you?
>>335028590
I acctually doubt it will be tau.
The devs have had alot of contact with the community (IIRC one guy from /bfg/ on /tg/ took up the critiques, complaints and ideas of /bfg/ to the devs and the devs took alot that criticism and changed the things that needed to be changed and kept the things that were good) and seeing as tau get alot of hate, while nids and crons don't, ot would be far more likely to see the latter two than the former, because that would be more appealing to the community.
>>335028480
It's heinrich kemmler.
>>335029507
Tau have been heading their poll for a while now though. They're clearly a frontrunner.
A thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s37H26WH9XA
>>335031287
Well it's well done have to say.
>>335031287
Why are demogryphs so cute
>>335032667
There is actually something cute about wingless griffins that can tear everyone and everything apart in a heartbeat.
I can't find the explanation for it though.
>>335031287
What's warpstone stuffed pacman doing in there?
>>335033256
Spell from a goblin shaman called curse of the badmoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUQiUFZ5RDw
>pre order to get an entire fucking race
yeah nah don't care anymore
will pirate
both WH and WH40k are constantly getting new games, why are you debating about it?
WH got Mordheim and Vermintide in the recent memory and WH40k is about to get Gothic in a few hours
Wait what the fuck happened to fantasy?
Last I heard there was an event with the end of the world and stuff and now i learn they gave up on fantasy completly?
i'm confused
>>335035185
the world ended
sigmar came back and created a new world
there's now a horrible cash grab of a game instead of muh unit blocks
>>335033092
>There is actually something cute about a mix between a cat and a bird
gee, I wonder whyDon't mind his expression: he realized to be born in the wrong age and stuck with golden homos.
>>335035896
Poor thing. Not only these, he's literally the size of a dog.
>see "the old world" trailer
>archaon looks like shit
feels bad man
>>335036762
Nah. He looks great. For once his helmet is not a simple golden one and has some nice Chaos marks.
>>335035185
The suits up at GW decided that fantasy was making too little profit compared to 40k (roughly 1/3 of all their miniatures sales according to the last document available to us), turns out that raising the cost per miniature and the number of miniatures to play a game as intended while decreasing the number of miniatures per box and fucking up any hope of balance at any possible moment really doesn't help building an influx of newcomers.
What did they do? They thought the problems were the lack of space marines, the setting being not high fantasy enough and the rules being too complex; they hamfisted an even more boring version of space marines, made up the new setting to be endless elemental planes with litterally not a single indication of measurement of time or space and reduced the rulebook to 4 pages lacking a single way to balance the forces being played, no army composition, no limits, no points.
The worst of all? The way they blew up the old world with asspulls and capeshit to cash with the fans and replace it with the creatively uncaring marketing decision that is the age of sigmar.
Shitposting aside
I hope that if this sells well we can get a Total War 40k game sometime
>>335037607
>no army composition, no limits, no points
this is one of the dumbest things about AoS
It's literally whoever owns the most $150 single model kits wins.
>>335018365
Last I checked Games Workshop literally attacks you with legal action if you try to make your own minis for their tabletop games, which means once they stop supporting a product there is a permanent limit and eventual scarcity on all figures you'd need and want to play the game with.
And the last time my local hobby shop's playerbase tried to put on a Warhammer Fantasy tournament, the staff told the runners that they shouldn't advertise it or offer prizes for placing highly, because Games Workshop was "highly discouraging" of allowing unofficial events of unsupported products that could be taken as approved by them.
>>335036762
Not arguing about that look being cool or not, personally I like it, but it seems like a one-off things he pulls for the purpose of the video.
His in-game model, at least from what I remember from one of the videos, looks the normal archaon.
That scene may just be a depiction of archaon getting one of the six artifacts he had to recover to be everchosen, iIrc one was a burning mark on his head.
>>335037745
>Total War 40K game
I may like 40K and Total War, but a combination of them wouldn't work well at all.
More like RUSE with Titans and scaled to Epic Warhammer 40000, but a 40K Total War? Nope.
