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Not like its a relevant topic anymore but what does /v/ think of Final Fantasy


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Not like its a relevant topic anymore but what does /v/ think of Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn?
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FFXIV:ARR's story was absolute horseshit, but they had a decent array of dungeons.

FFXIV: HW's story and characterization is better, but they made all the level 50 content extremely irrelevant.
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>>334997426

It gives me a sudden urge to report to Minfilia at the Waking Sands
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>>334998835

i see what you did thar
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>>334998835
holy shit
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>>334998732

i agree ARR's story was shit. Haven't play Heavensward yet.
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>>334998835
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>>334998996

That is very disturbing.
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>>334998732
There's also the fact that we basically solved all the problems for HW's plot in the base expansion but despite that we're still on this shit

>guys I killed your archbishop he was trying to become a god and shit and also nidhogg is dead and everything you knew is a lie time to suck it up and stop living in the past
>NNNNUUUUH MUH TRADITION MUH FAMILY WHO DIED FOR FUCKING NOTHING

meanwhile the Warrior of Darkness is doing fuckall despite being introduced as important or something
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>>334998996
Wtf?
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>>334999220

My issue is that there are so many open threads of story they just leave unanswered. Like you said the Warrior of Darkness who showed up, attacked you, then he's never talked about again. Freaking Estinien being taken over by Nidhogg at the end of 3.0 HW... and again no one even mentions him until he stabs peaceful dragon-girl in the neck.

Garleans, Ascians, Omega, lost scions, Y'shtola's dying body or whatever. For such a story heavy game with Answers as the main theme they sure aren't giving many.
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>>334997426
Great game, best MMO at the moment.
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>>334999220
At least it's supposedly finally gonna end in 3.3 and we can finally move on to something else.

Also I liked being a Gladiator better than being a Paladin.
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>>334998835
Does anyone else want to nail Minfilia? She's pretty much the only thing that makes going to the waking sands, and later MorDhona. This game has some fine ass ladies.
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>>334999697
It's the best boring MMO at the moment. There's not a lot of endgame content if you've been playing it since the start.
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>>334999683
>Estinien being a double nidhogg
>Oh uh we need to get minfilia I guess
>Yda and Papalymo fucking around with the Ala Mhiggers
>Omega weapon but we kind of dropped the plot point like we dropped the ball
>Regula van Hydrus trying to go full Kefka
>Warrior of Darkness doing fuckall
>Elidibus doing what now
>Diabolos and his waifu
>Shitty lizardslut and her husband and the shitty goblins and the stupid time travel plot
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>>334999817
Instant waifu. god I wish there was so much more porn of her... I really think she deserves at least as much as Midna from LoZ...
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>>334999898
It's not boring to me and I've been playing since 1.0 launched. The only time I ever stopped was actually during 1.0.
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>>334999817

Minfillia looks pretty good, yeah. The arcanist strategy cat is also pretty good.
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>>334999961
I'm most curious about Elidibus. It wouldn't surprise me if he was actually the one that gave Urianger that piece of white auricite because he felt like Lahabrea was getting too much out of hand and needed to be dealt with somehow.
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>less than 300k subs

It's over. Yoship is finished.
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>>335000208

OP here. I started playing about 3 months before HW dropped but I haven't play since. Just re subbed today. Currently re-installing expansion
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I'm just gonna dump some roulette stories.

>Doing totorak
>Tank is running down the wrong tunnels
>Healer literally just spams cure even when the tank is at 98% health
>Arcanist only uses Ruin, and for half the dungeon didn't have their pet out
>Still only took 24 minutes when I've had ones go for 40 minutes

>Doing Cutter's Cry
>People standing in every sand pillar
>Tank standing in every AoE
>Group's dragoon takes hits better because their gear isn't level 25 shit
>Tell tank at the end that violet eyes = run in close, blue eyes = move away
>Not only does he mix the two up, he does it several times. Didn't dodge a single one.
>Would have actually took less damage if he just stood still.

>Doing daily expert roulette
>Notice the healer is just standing around for 80% of the first trash mobs
>Had enough of lazy healers, suggest he DPS
>Healer: ”That's optional. People are getting healed.”
>Me: ”Fine I'll just set myself to autoattack.”
>Healer: ”Fine by me.”
>The other DPS does minimal damage too
>A single boss is taking 7 minutes to kill
>We're all fucking around just standing in AoEs, doing autoattack damage
>We get to the final boss in 26 minutes
>Me: ”Fuck I'm just autoattacking and it actually went faster than some runs I've done.”
>Healer: “I know, right?”
>Me: “Fuck it, ain't even mad anymore. Let's do this shit.”
>Healer does DPS too
>Tank dies
>Fucking shitty healers
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>>335000208
What do you do? I assume you have all jobs at level 60 by now aswell.
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>>335000453
Just about everything. I like trying to complete everything.

I don't have every job at 60 but I have almost every zodiac weapon as well as the hyperconductive DRK relic.

All crafts and gatherers as are 50, FSH is 51 though, and the only battle classes I don't have at 50 are MNK which is 55, BRD and NIN which are 50, and MCH which is still only 32.
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>>334999817
Minfilia is cute (particularly in her winter getup) but no woman can hold a candle to the seedseer qts.
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>>335000390
It would make sense. Elidibus may be an ascian but he's not exactly working in tandem with Organization XIII

He's an "emissary", and while the Ascians in the group are named after the Scions of Light from Ivalician lore (opposite to the Espers, the scions of darkness, so Lahabrea = Mateus), there's nothing matching Zodiark. instead, Elidibus is the name of the man who was the Serpentarius Lucavi in Final Fantasy Tactics, and casted Zodiark.

If i recall he had civil conversations in all of his appearances.
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>>335000568
I also have most of the mounts and minions.
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>>335000568
>>335000648
And I'm going to bed now so any other questions you might want to ask will not be able to be answered because it's sleepy time now.
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>>335000579
I guess they call her the seedseer because of all that semen she takes in her body
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Its a pretty shitty game. Endgame is like the most annoying mechanics from WoW condensed. Every boss fight is a set of shitty gimmicks and there is nothing else to the game but that once you memorize it. The community is absolute shit and that means you're not going to have a lot of cool people distracting you from how boring the game is. The world is uninteresting and too small to feel like there's anywhere left to explore by the time you hit the cap, and there's not even any cool loot to want to aim for once you do since everything of the same item level is only marginally different.
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>>334997426
That global cooldown scared away the casuals since its far too boring. It might be easy enough for casuals to get on board but its boring. For others who have played MMO's before the global cooldown makes you want to throw up immediately and run. I think if it went F2P i'd play it for the story and look around the world at all the neato scenery it probably has but thats it.

What turned the game into a fad on /v/ for so long was its ability to bring people together but that slowly faded and the endgame dried up from what i've read.

That global cooldown is disgusting though, even if it isn't that bad at high level i just can't stomach paying money for the game when i have so many games on my list i haven't even played yet.
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>>335000579

Raya-O-Senna is the truest seedmendemon.
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>>335000568
I guess I'm further in. All jobs 60, 2 relics completed. I'm pretty much playing a lot less now because there's nothing much to do for me anymore besides getting the weekly amount of lore tomes and bird farming (I have 1).

There's also Midas Savage but that's the one thing I skip on.
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>>335000774
>>335000831
please do not slander the seedseer
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>>335000848
Stop complaining anon
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>>335000568
I meant the only battle classes I don't have at 60*

Going to bed for real this time
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>>335000848

I cannot understand the hardcore raiding scene, I swear. I know 2 people who are into it, and after running that shit again and again they're -miserable-. They're not even happy about their accomplishment by the end of it.
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>>335000329
Isn't that Y'shtola? I've never been partial to catgirls in any media, but she just feels right.
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>>335000939
They aren't wrong. Just because people don't like to do all of those things doesn't mean there isn't a lot of shit to do.
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>>335000582
My crackpot theory is that the world itself has actually been split in two by Hydaelyn's fuckery and there's a "Dark Eorzea" on a shifted plane from us across the Lifestream or some shit and that the "truth" Elidibus is talking about is that we need to rejoin them somehow or else both will be fucked by THE VOID.
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>>335000939
I did most of those things. I can complain whenever the fuck I want.
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>>335000990

No there's another pink-haired catgirl with glasses who is a master tactician who is part of the arcanist quest chain.
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>>335000579
>particularly in her winter getup
I just got to that part. Lordy she looks good. She looks like the only responsible one there with her big coat in the raging blizzard. Fuckin' Alphinaud, the strategy dude, is standing there in his regular clothes. How is he not cold?
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>>335000990
Naw, the autistic one in the Arcanist story that got raped by big roe pirate dick. K'lyhia.
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>>335000939
>official forums
>still shit

same as it ever was
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>>335001054

Sure there's a lot of shit to do, but when a lot of people don't want to do those things and you're relying on that as other bits of content to do, it's not a good sign.
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>>335000939
Technically they're right, there's a shit ton to do in this game. Granted a lot of it is a grind that requires severe autism to be able to actually enjoy.
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>cape westwind runs
>the encounter doesn't even last 2 minutes

You end up waiting longer for your queue to pop. I can only imagine how dps feel on something like this.
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>>335000985
That's one of the reasons I quit raiding.

The reward is not really worth it for the time you put in. By now we all know the gear is going to be obsolete pretty fast. Forming a static of 8 fixed people is tough too. Weekly lockouts make it even harder.

Also don't get me wrong, I love the game. Otherwise I wouldn't have all jobs 60. But it just feels done by now.
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Why the fuck does the new relic take so goddamn long to farm.
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>>335000779

I disagree that the community is shit. When I played a while ago I joined a FC and met tons of awesome people.
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>>335001443
Is there anyone else in the story that just gets completely BTFO more than that guy? He's supposed to be a big enough boss that they made him an instances trial and he just absolutely melts.
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>>335001492
cos ur a scrub.
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>if FFXV sucks I'm gonna have to come back to XIV for my FF fix
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>>335000939

>Just because you personally don't want to do something doesn't mean there isn't lots to do

Well, personally, if I don't want to do something I'm not going to do it, so it may as well not exist.

I understand the sentiment. Just because I don't think there's anything to do doesn't mean other people don't have plenty of stuff they enjoy.
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>>335000830
The 2.5 gcd was meant to accomodate for console players and also the new to mmo players, which console players also tend do be. Basically accommodating for casual play. But the decision for 2.5 gcd and the combat design is massive failure in that regard.

Most casual players like mashing buttons...the same buttons. That means low gcd, low total buttons, which is what wow did. A couple mashable gcds, and lots of glowy procs. FFXIV however went the low gcd route (you mash but nothing happens in 2 seconds plus) and having to constantly jump to the other buttons before coming back to your first button 10-20 buttons later.
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>>334997426
It is an awful game with no soul. Literally just a copy of another successful game in the genre but with chocobos.
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>>335001550
Alphinaud becomes the butt of some jokes, to some that is considered being btfo. Rihtahtyn is fuckin' hilarious. He starts saying some stuff near death about shooting missiles. However, that time usually never comes because he dies while shooting them.
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>>335001867

explain?
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>>335001805
the douchebag's justification was also ridiculous like "having every achievement"

When some are literally impossible to get, like the ones for Leves, when not even enough time has passed to have enough leves to do it since launch.
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>>335001643
You know what you need more of in your life?

Besides Lalafell, anyways.

http://www.finalfantasyrecordkeeper.com/
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>>335001850
This is what I don't understand at all. Why did they make a console MMO have more fucking buttons than can feasibly be mapped to controller hotkeys? I don't even know how the fuck you're supposed to play classes after the expansion now on a controller. Macros?
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>>335001931

Or a 'max level chocobo'

What am I supposed to go around killing monsters for endless hours?
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>>334997426
no garrison and actual crafting mechanics, so better than wow
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>>335002052

>What am I supposed to go around killing monsters for endless hours?

playing an mmo and not expecting to grind. you should probably play a different type of game m8
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>>335001931
>achievement for earning 1,000,000 Gil from leves
>burned through enough leves to have 6 out of 8 crafting classes leveled
>still don't even have 400k earned from it
>there's an achievement for earning 20 tucking million
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>>335000985
>>335001472

Raiding in XIV got castrated. People who didn't raid whined for everything to be taken away from raiding and given to them instead. Story? Taken. Strongest gears? neutralized with welfare gear. Achievements? downvalued once nerfs and echos are introduced.

You literally cannot be baffled by how worthless raiding is when your non raiding brethrens literally encouraged yoship to rape the fuck out of it.
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>>335002139
more like there's no alternate way to level them. I wish there was chocobo leves that just gave chocobo exp or something.
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>>335002290

fair enough ill accept that answer
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>>335002139

Context my man. Endless hours to level up your character is one thing. Endless hours to level up your chocobo is something I have never heard of any people caring about.
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>>335001918
Yoshi has gone on record and said that his idea of a good MMO is one that copies WoW. What is there to explain?
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>>335002052

Only for the challenge log. Otherwise just put it in a stable and feed it krakka roots.
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>>335002052
It isn't actually that time consuming to level the chocobo if you form parties to do it. Maybe like a dozen hours. But it is still a total waste of time, so I don't know why you would.
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>>335002020
It's simply just design failure. Yoship has no good major titled game under his belt before he took leadership of xiv. He literally got selected because wada asks who plays mmos and only yoship rose his hand.
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>winterhold
>lala tank

The music is so god damn chill in that dungeon, I almost forgot about lala tank. I also didn't believe that lala tanks existed before today. I was very disgusted.
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>>335001996
I heard about that branch shit or whatever. That's a trap.
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>>335002362

fair enough but what mmo doesn't rip off from the success of wow
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>>335002475

Lala tanks are fairly common. It's the most ironic race in the most ironic role.

If he glamoured himself to be naked then the irony would be off the fucking charts, brother.
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Will mindless FSH grinding make me stinking rich like 1-50 MIN grinding did? Leves are for squares.

I expect the answer to be no, frankly, but if there are some profitable fish to grind on the way up I'm all ears. This is laughably AFKable - it makes Runescape fishing look hard - so I can do it while I'm studying for a huge exam this summer. Literally gotta press 2 buttons on my controller every 15 seconds or so. Feels good man.
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>>335002548
Ultima Online? Everquest? FFXI? EVE?
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>>335002609

The only profitable ones are leve fishes.
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>>335002662

never played ultima or eve
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>>335002609
you can desynth fishes for money
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>>335002715
Oh, actually, that makes perfect sense. Well, I could fish those anyway. The thing about leves is, that requires input. All I have to do besides pressing buttons is check gear every time I level up and go buy some more bait

>>335002770
I'm a level 13 CUL m8.
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>>335002662
Two of those are dead and one of those is essentially a second job for anyone who plays it.
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>>335002795
time to level CUL you CUK
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>>335002548
>>335002662
FFXI best mmorpg ever btw. Never forget.
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>>335002847
That was funny! Also, it's funny, I had planned on holding on to huge stacks of certain fish to make leveling CUL less obnoxious.


What kind of shit can I desynth a Lominsan Anchovy for that's REALLY worth the effort?
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>>335002795
>not having. CUL leveled for it's god tier cross class skills
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>>335002795

Fishing leves are different. They're just turn-ins. You find a spot and pick the bait that will give you the leve fish, then either use them/turn them in or sell them to other slobs who can't bother.
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>>335002882

it was pretty fantastic wasn't it?
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>>335002826
Actually FFXI had to be your only job, which is why it was so good.
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>>335002918
I don't craft, that should be obvious to you. The only things I give a shit about are mining and raiding

>>335002961
Yeah, that's what I meant. If people are buying them to turn-in and level their own FSH, I could fish those and sell them.
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i like catgirls
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>Been playing since 12PM today doing quest grind to HW almost 13 hours
>Started halfway through 2.2
>Did 2.3,2.4 and 2.5 today in this marathon
>10 quests left
>Nobody queueing for steps of Faith in the past 20 minutes
>Maintenance in Nine minutes
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>>335002826
Everquest is still getting expansions. FFXI is still getting content updates, just not expansions anymore and also just got a new director.
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>>335002989
The feels.
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>>335002554
Thankfully this guy didn't glam to be naked. Something tells me I can expect more lala tanks at higher level content. I barely ever saw them during my dungeon content. I consider that extreme luck though.
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>>335002995

I'd like catgirls more if they had proportions like that but they're all skinny assless Jap teens.
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>>335003034
Take a break you spaz; it isn't going anywhere.
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>>335003034
>not asking your FC to do content with you
c'mon son
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>>335003034

>past 20 minutes
>9 minutes till maintenance
> expecting people to queue for dung when maintenance is half an hour away
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>>335003107
>assless Japs
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>>335003107
There's a certain type of body well-suited to cowtits, and that c@ is lacking seriously in that department. You want to talk shit proportions, that image you've linked to is a pretty good example.
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>>335003147
Got kicked out of my FC two days ago for making fun of the leader's roommate for being a waitress
All on my own
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>>335003228
>not just joining a new one
step the fuck up faggot
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>>335003228

get a new FC fag
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>>335003182
>assless
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>>335002995
miqote a shit
mithra a best
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>>335003182

All I'm asking for is a little variety, friend.
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>>335003257
>>335003290
>Being in a FC
>Responding to self-absorbed tripfags who post their pointless conversations in these threads

come on now are you fellas even trying
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should I resub to this game?
I got to level 40 then my free month went away
I just want to be in a comfy roleplaying FC
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>>335002475
>>335002554
Lalafells make the best tanks.

After all they're great at generating hate
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>>335003257
>>335003290
It's hard. I'm on Ultros, I'm convinced everyone is a retard. I tried joining an FC today but the leader said him and his wife were running it and I knew instantly that was trouble
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>>335003327
bedtime grandpa
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>>335003359
then resub
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>>335003328
You want variety? FUCK YOU. MORE BEAST TRIBE QUESTS
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>>335003359

OP here. I just resubbed today. I would if I were you but it depends on your preferences.
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>>335003372

Why would that be trouble? Normies tend to be pretty decent leaders.
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>>335003372
join the /vg/ FC you'd fit right in
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>>335003449
>Moogle Beast Tribe in 3.3
>it's gathering

actually that'd give me a leveling incentive I guess
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>>335003327
Just what is it about mithras that are superior to miqote in just about everyway? Even in fan art, when the 2d art isn't even trying too hard to emulate the in game 3d models. Even that is superior to miqote, in game model or 2d fanart. I think I can easily tell if a fan art is a mithra or a miqote even when they're naked.
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>>335003343

> pointless conversations
> implying this entire board is more than pointless conversation

/v/ is serus bidness fool
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>>335003531
They couldn't possibly introduce another "Find the 3 moogles" quest, could they? There's already about 50 of those in Churning MIsts


>>335003556
Rose-tinted glasses, my guess
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>>335003556
I believe they had ass.
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i just want a big world and adventures :(
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>>335003591
would you rather another crafting beast tribe with the goblins
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>>335003531
>gathering beast tribe

I would be all over this if it actually happened
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>>335003620
I recommend classic runescape
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There were two things in FFXIV that caused me to stop playing after a month:

The combat is slow and boring. That's just too big of an issue to ignore. I can't try to push myself through a game or enjoy it if one of the main elements is dull. Everything is locked into long cast animations and it isn't very engaging.

I absolutely hate the idea of one character being able to main every class. Why do they do this? It strips away any identity your character has. I would rather roll alts and play a variety of characters to experience multiple classes. The fact you can be a mage, warrior and a healer all in one breaks my immersion.

These two reasons kill the game for me. It's unfortunate because I did enjoy the atmosphere, graphics, music, exploring, questing and all that jazz.
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>>335003620
too bad. instanced hallways for you.

and square arenas

or circle arenas
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So what's with the whole timer suspending for the housing removal? Is it the earthquake? I guess it might be a bit harsh to lose not only your real home but your virtual one too due to an earthquake.
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>>335003556
Mithra actually looked lithe and muscular, miqote just look like generic anime catgirls

cat nose also makes them a little more unique

the perma-tan/thin fur thing they have going on helps too, most people make miqote look pale as shit
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>>334999817
Yda is a better
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>>335003723

I don't think it strips away your chars identity. Why does your character have to be identified by its class
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>>335003723

>I absolutely hate the idea of one character being able to main every class. Why do they do this?

Because it has the job system, an FF staple. There's nothing stopping you from leveling a bunch of different alts either if you're that autistic.
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>>335003724
>audience want variety
>triangle arena

yoshi p is master hack
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>>334999220

Who knew that killing the big boss wouldn't just instantly end a 1000 year war that a lot of people are personally invested in and built an entire religion around?
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>>335003874
How the hell do Yda's little short things even work anyway? That garment she wears doesn't even look like something that could physically exist.
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It ruined our friend group. I hate this game.
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>>335003818
>most people make miqote look pale as shit
This bothers me a lot.
We need more milk chocolate and brown miqo'te.
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>>335003968
>t1 and t2 will never be beaten in terms of quality and atmoshphere
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>Tfw FC on Ultros I joined 1-2 years ago is completely dead now
House is a large plot next to the market board too.
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>>335004054

not the games fault. how about you take your shitshow elsewhere
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>>335004073
kek... no one want to play as some nigger or mexican scum
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>>335003723
>I absolutely hate the idea of one character being able to main every class.
It really does not matter that you can level every class when you are completely wasting your time by doing it; in the time it takes to actually gear two classes up to whatever the current equipment level cap is, it will already be obsolete. Two characters is objectively better if you actually want to play two classes, but you have to do twice as much tedious bullshit to unlock dungeons.
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>>335003967

>Working on getting my 7th character to level 50
>So I can make a 7th room in my FC house
>My FC which is supposed to be an RP FC
>Grown so bitter about past RP experiences I don't even RP anymore

At least I have some nice rooms, senpai.
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>>335004132
It's the only thing i can blame it on. Why would I be realistic and blame my friends lack of self control? What am I, reasonable?
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>less active characters than the past census, more than 100k to be precise
>less characters at endgame than the past census
>B-B-B-BUT THE LOW NUMBER OF PLAYERS AT ENDGAME IS BECAUSE 3.1 DOESN'T UNLOCK ANYTHING, I'M DOING SAVAGE AND HAVEN'T BOTHERED WITH 3.1! 3.2 WILL HAVE MORE PLAYERS BECAUSE IT UNLOCKS CONTENT!
>ALL MMOs HAVE A SLUMP IN PLAYERS, EVERYONE IS JUST WAITING FOR THE NEXT RAID TIER
>BULLSHIT THE GAME ISN'T DYING, IT'S GOING STRONG AND GAINING MORE PLAYERS EVERY DAY
>5-5-5-5-5 M-M-M-M-MILLION ADVENTURERS

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>335004245

kek
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>>335004018
Can you not imagine 3d? Take 2 rectangular cloth. Overlay them together. Pin the top 2 edged with a safety pin each. Pin the bottom middle of the rectangle with a safety pin. That's what you basically get.
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>>334998732
>Skipped most of the ARR story because it was dogshit
>Trying to pay attention to the HW story since people say it's good
>Have to sit through 6 gorillion cutscenes and dialogues just to unlock shit
>Start skipping it because I lost patience after sitting through 3 cutscenes in a row every time I do anything
>Just killed Bismark and have no idea what's going on anymore because the story skips around constantly even when you're paying attention more often than not

They shouldn't make this so difficult to follow if you just want to play the game.
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>>335003958

Nice try you cheeky cunt.
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>>335000410
is really that low?
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>>335004018
Do you even fashion
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>>335003874
And there isn't a problem with that. Most of the females in this game are a miracle of the universe. Jesus Christ, if there wasn't a series more deserving of porn, it's this one. Some may argue with me on this but god damn do I want to see Minfilia bent over that desk and showed all scions of the seventh dawn.
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>>335004362
>I shouldn't have to read to know what's going on
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>main SMN
>get BLM to the same ilvl
>SMN's piano rotation that uses shitloads of buttons and depends on strict timing and planning ahead results in 1680 DPS
>BLUH BLUH FIRE IV BLUH with no knowledge of the finer points of BLM gets me 1720

At least our healers still rely on my crutch raises...
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>>335004442
No, I don't. I haven't bought new clothes in like two years.
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>>335004412

not trolling. My characters identity is based on whatever i think of my character. not its fucking class.
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>Mod API: postponed
>DPS meters are scary
>B-but PS3
Why do people still play these hacks
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>>335004073
Loonh Gah did have a sexy bod.
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>>335004263
game is dead... our only hope is a wow legacy server!!!

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17611011067
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>>335004416
see
>>335004263

For comparison this was the last census done in January, bottom left number are active characters then players who've cleared up to a certain patch, plenty of people have alts so the number of actual subs is even lower.
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>>335004495
SMNs are always going to do less single target DPS no matter what.

BLMs are much better for single target but get beaten out by SMNs by far in AoE. BLMs AoE isn't what it used it to be.
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>>335000579
I don't understand why this wasn't the new playable race instead of Au Ra, which has the worst design possible.
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>>335003723
>complains that a jack of all trades has no identity
>would rather play as a small army of different characters with himself completely removed from the game world only acting as a commander over his "toons"
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>>335004362
Hi DSP.
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>>334997426
It's WoW with nice graphics and a Final Fantasy story. Alright if you like that kind of thing.
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>>335004676
Because it would make zero sense from a lore perspective.
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>>335004676

Because they can't leave the shroud for very long or be anything but white mages.
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>>335004416
Financial report on the 3.0 to 3.1 release indicates that the maximum sub XIV can have is 500k. That's MAXIMUM, more likely around 300k. Then you have >>335004263 saying only 400k-360k players completed the msq during that time. The numbers just get lower each time.
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>>335004676
Because there are like 5-10 Padjal total in the world according to the lore.
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>>335002052
Feeding it a krakka root every hour gives it I think .5% of it's level
Weekly challenges combined give it 15% to its level for 100 mobs total
Making Curiel roots it's favored food will increase its exp rate when you summon it with them

I never grinded more than the 100 mobs per week to get my choco to 20. Hardest part was just having someone grow thav onions for me, but that's what FCs are for.
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>>335004654
>the flare nerf
>the fuckin' flare nerf
That spell is a staple of the series for it being a massive damage area spell. It's situational, but god damn if it wasn't useful.
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>>335004789

I don't think they're actually white mages.
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>>335000410
>LE 300K SUBS MEME

The current amount of active subscribers is around 650k, as pointed out in an earlier posts. 3.1 hurt the game's reputation hard and lost it about 100k subs or so.

I have no idea where people pull this
>below 300k active players
shit from.
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>>335004801
I'm guessing most of the subs are Japanese?
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>>335004629
>>335004263
The first image is not subscriber counter overtime.

The first column is Active players total. Subsequent columns show overall progression for the total number of players, in order:

Active (Total)

Brand New

Progressing through 2.0 (Literally: Continuation)

Cleared End of 2.0 Content

Cleared 2.55

Started 3.0

Cleared 3.0

Cleared 3.1

Cleared 3.2

In other words, there are 639,585 active characters. Of these, 263,604 have cleared Patch 3.2's MSQ.

Reddit eating my formatting again, I give up

Edit: The second image has to do with A4S and A8S clear rates.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/4fnvnr/unofficial_census_time/
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>>335004606
How exactly is it postponed when the last time they mentioned it near 3.2 release was that they're gonna release the addons at 4.0? Are they basically saying postponed to never?
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>watch 1.0 cutscenes
>they're so much more well animated

the only problem is the voices damn

Papalymo sounds like some annoying british nanny
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>>335004471
Being inundated with 5000000000000 cutscenes just to unlock a new dungeon is full retard game design.

You need to make most of it relatively concise and save the actual cutscenes for when something relevant or awesome is happening.

They've made MMOs before and did it exactly that way, but with XIV they just throw as much shit at the wall until people stop trying to peel it off.
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>>335004906
There are 650k subs. Most are NA and JP with some EU.
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>>335004518

I figured you were transmemeing or some shit. If serious, then for me it's hard to break archetypes in fantasy lore. I could accept something like a Mage Warrior tank who possess elemental abilities along with brute strength, or a Holy Archer who strikes enemies from afar while healing allies, or coming up with other hybrid types, but it removes me from my character and the world when everyone can just do and be everything.
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>>335004906
XIV has a higher number of non JP subs, DQX has the higher number of JP subs, it's also JP only and all anyway.
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How do I convince my WoW fag friends to play ARR instead?
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>>335004820
So what, just make them discover more or something, who cares

>>335004778
You can write yourself out of anything when the world you're dealing with is made out of magic.
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couldn't believe my luck
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>>335004676
Because Padjal are even less diversive, being, literally, Hyurs with horns.

Because they're literally born from hyurs, with horns, and are taken away as children to be trained as White Mages. There will never be a Padjal who isn't one.

Au Ra as a concept are fine, it's the execution (re: whatever was easiest for them) that was the problem
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>>335004926
Oh lord. I was thinking of how much fire II is used since it's an aoe in this game. I'm goin' to bed, I don't know how I could fuck up something like that.
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>>335004954

I might actually enjoy the cutscenes if this is how they were.

And if they didn't use them for every God damn quest. I do NOT need a cutscene of people talking to each other right in front of me. The fuck, Yoshi?
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>>335005023

well if you look at it realistically, anyone can learn different "jobs" IRL anyways.
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>>335004876
>650k pointed out in earlier posts
>ctrl f 650k
>first result is your post

I have no idea where 650k is being pulled from either? Your ass?
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>>335004876
639,585k active characters, enough people have alts to bring that number down to below 500k subs. Yes, people actively use alts all the time and some even use more than 1 alt, just because you don't doesn't mean others don't.
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>>335004801
>Release indicates that maximum sub XIV can have is 500k.

You are fucking autistic and have no source to prove this right. There are several pictures in this thread that point the opposite.

This is some shitty bait.
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>They need 4 hours of downtime to disable auto-demolish for housing
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>>335005078
We don't want them here. Go play WoW with them.
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600k subscribers is really good. I doubt FFXI ever reached sub numbers that high. I don't know how well SE will maintain those amount of subscribers though. WoW is already dying and FFXIV seems to doing the same things WoW does but in FF's clothing.
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>>335005128
>>335004926

Yeah. Flare is basically single target ultima.
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>>335004801
MMOs don't need millions of subs to be active. Everquest only had 500k subs at its peak.
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>>335005230
600k characters... not subs
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>>335005196
>>335005191

why does it fucking matter?
If the game is doing so awful then why do you care? Wait for it to die if you care this much holy shit.

You people have too much goddamn free time on your hands.
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>>335005191
>around 650k
>around
>What is the English language

see
>>335005196

Are you literally autistic
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>>335005230
>>335005283

more subs is not always better, from a community quality standpoint anyways
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>>335004963

>Take a break from FFXIV to play some Blade and Soul
>Story is okay, but throughout the game the cutscenes are actually filled with funny scenes and action/excitement

It's, like, I forgot cutscenes could be interesting because they never were in ffxiv.
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>>335005156
1.0 cutscenes were mocapped if I remember

However most of the budget went into this shit and they forgot they needed to make a game.

They also had actual 2 handed stances for staff users.
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>>335005230
>correct races on each job

Someone explain why Yoshi-P doesn't do this outside of job quests?
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>>335005091
That's not how it works faggot, the Padjal are born when the Elementals fuck a Hyurian whore, and the Elementals only exist in one place.
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>>335004686

But the whole world is made up of characters who are a jack of all trades. It isn't just you. That's boring to me. And playing multiple characters doesn't remove me from the game world. I do some light RP, a lot of it for my own personal enjoyment, where I like to come up with back stories to my characters in my head. When I played WoW and mained a Warlock I had my own story of who he was, where he came from, and what his purpose was. When I played my Warrior it didn't change any of that, I had my own made up fantasy about him too. If my Warlock was also trained to be a Priest and a Hunter and a Paladin it would completely collapse my identity of him.

I probably just make it a bigger issue than it needs to be, I can understand fine why people enjoy it. I could probably overlook it too, but I still think the combat in this game is absolute shit and I can't play a game where one of the main gameplay elements is boring to me.
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>>335005196
>>335005328

>640k active characters
>is equal to 640k subs
>when every sperg in balmung squeezes in all their character slots into that server taking up all 8 for their shitty purposes
>why does it matter

Are gonna play a game of goalpost moving now?
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>>335004854

Flare is traditionally single target you nerd.
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>tfw I unsubbed for the first time since re-launch because no content if i didnt raid

Getting a real job sucks.
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>>335005343
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>>335005402
There is no 'correct race', though there are baises I guess.

Black Mages and Scholars are suited for Lalafells since they were the original scholars and run the Thaumaturge guild.

Dragoons are sutied for Elezen because ishgard.

However Paladins (at least, Gladiators) and Monks are Highlanders because muh proud ala mhigo
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>losing 100k subs is good

XI also definitely hit 600k subs in its lifetime, though all the official reports you'll find will say it peaked at 500k, though surely it hovered above that and got 100k more before they bothered to update their numbers and before going downhill.
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>>335004954
PS3 LIMITATIONS PLEASE UNDERSTAND


Seriously though, the ARR and HW cutscenes are dogshit. They don't even try.

>>335005364
I honestly can't think of a single good cutscene I've seen since I got HW a few weeks ago.

Even the Shiva va Ravana scene was crappy. How the fuck do you manage to make 2 god things fighting each other look boring?
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>>335005503
>active

Are you implying more than one character can be active at a time?
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>>335005382

Shit titan is fucking swole.
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>>335005604
meant for
>>335005230
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>>335005503
>640k active characters inherently implies less than 500k subs
>Source: my ass

Do you have any actual proof to back this up? Burden of proof lies upon you and so far all you're giving is a whole lot of nothing caked in shit. Oh, and just because a few people have some alts doesn't mean everyone has "8 alts."
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>>335001246
Wish her and the Conjurer would show up again in a fun quest.
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>>335005598
They are best suited for lalafells because lalafells are like tarus, ergo the most scholarly/intelligent race.
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>>335005634
The way the census works, yes it can easily account for alts active around the period the census took place.
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>>335005604
Judging by the numbers, they're losing numbers at the pre-2.55 area. Servers are also getting new blood quite regularly.

So most of the character losses are bots getting banned, since they never go past Wanderer's palace for their farming, and end game raiders unsubbing.
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>>335005416
>We discovered a method that allows us to travel around [VIDEO GAME WORLD] thanks to these magic crystals containing the essence of an elemental!
>Let's go adventure!

Wow I'm a fucking genius, pay me YoshiP
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>>335005634
Are you seriously this dumb?
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>>335005710
>inb4 NOT A VALID OFFICIAL SOURCE
>inb4 I CAN'T READ MOONRUNES
>in during shill BTFO

http://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/47379481.html
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>>335005023
Then just don't level the other jobs, you little faggot.
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>>335005713
>oh hey Silphy it turns out you're highly attuned to the elements and can hear their voices
>that's it
>never see Silphy again

I'd like for the next WHM story to introduce her again, as a WHM in training.

SCH and SMN's stories having nothing to do with the ACN guild is okay I guess because they're entirely diffferent branches. Alka Zolka is a cool dude anyways.
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>>335003967
The problem is that you're gated hugely gearing up your other jobs and if you're doing endgame content then that means you're already in a static and going as your main job. Making gearing up other jobs moot.
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>>335005102
>SE will never stop stealing money from XIV so we can have well designed content

Imagine how good the game could be if the money you spent on it actually went into it's development
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>>335005735
Lalas in this game's lore are more merchantile than scholarly tho. Two out of the three gathering guilds being headed by Lalas is fitting.

Also the sub number autists are at it again? Why is every MMO thread ever plagued by this bullshit who gives even a single fuck
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>>335005078
tell them you'll be their cumdump for them on xiv
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>>335005821
Padjal are still an incredibly rare minority, like literally a dozen at most.

In fact there's only 6 seen ever and one of them is dead.

Besides that people would complain that they're even less original as they're just kids with horns, whereas Au ra are humans with skin cancer.
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>>335005923
>Yoshida, the corporate executive in charge of SE's entire MMO division can't get enough funding and staff

He has the funds, he has the staff, he's just a hack.
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>>335005851
>I CAN'T READ MOONRUNES
Yeah, apparently you fucking can't, that says nothing about "active subscribers." This was posted about who has cleared what content. It says nothing about active subscribers.

You are fucking autistic. This picture says nothing to back up your claim. So again, I'll ask, where is your proof?
>inb4blatantmisinterpretation
>inb4 your game is still shit
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>>335005923
XIV will be getting even less content once XV fails to reach the 10 trillion sales it needs to make back the money they've spent on it.
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>>335005923
>SE stealing money from XIV
>When XIV is the game responsible for FFXV taking a decade to release
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>>335006062

At least people would have actual children to ERP with now, instead of pedos having to make lalafell and twist them into 'I'm actually a hyur child/voidsent orphan, tehee'.
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>>335005851
>people keep waving around the 640k active characters as if it means sub
>okay let's look at this page then
>heavensward legible characters is listed as 410k
>410k
>subs is somehow 650k they said

lol...
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>>335006167
Except Padjals are several hundred years old
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>>335005382
>Never released because earthquake in japan happened and it would be bad taste
>Now another earthquake has caused this stupid maintenance

Why wont those nips leave that doomed island?
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>>335006209

Well alright, visually they'd have a much better fit for an underaged hyur girl than a lalafell.
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>>335006092
>alts don't exist

You're right, there's no way to tell how many of those characters are alts, but no one can deny people do use alts and that it has a substantial enough impact on the amount of real subs.

The game also lost 100k subs, if you were an intelligent shill you could spin it around and say 100k people just stopped using their alts, but you can't even do that.
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>>335005283
how many people are actually going to complete 50 hours of story content on multiple characters in an mmo where you can do all jobs at once?
>>
What is it like to fuck a blind girl?
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>>335006347
People who run the market boards.
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>>335006347
Almost all raiders, Youtubers and streamers do, all 1% of them. Balmung does, 99% of them.
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>>335006362
She sees in aether, meaning she can probably see through your clothes and your dick.
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>>335006362
grab your gf/fiancee/wife and try it out
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>>335006340
As someone who loves the game they deserved to bleed subs for the shitshow that was 3.1. Fuck that was awful.
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>>335006143
>Put the successful XI team to work on Dragon Quest Online
>Put a bunch of BRs and Chinks in charge of XIV
>Dragon Quest launches
>It's great
>XIV launches
>It's shit
>Everyone goes back to XI a month later and the game drops dead

Wow was a surprising turn of events here lads.
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>>335006340
>Y-YOU'RE RIGHT BUT BAWWW YOU AREN'T INTELLIGENT
>I HAVE NO WAY TO BACK UP MY CLAIM

So as I suspected, you are, very clearly, pulling shit out of your ass with no clear way to prove it. That's all I needed to hear.
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>>335006347
You don't know how autistic balmung/gilga scums can get. There are people who collect all the ARR zodiacs pre nerf just so can they post it on the OF and reddit for thumbs ups and karma. It's disgusting.
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>>335006347

Well just to fuck up your numbers I personally have 8 alts.
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>>335006545
>Lol Diadem and Lords of Verminion, they'll love shit, I'm sure of it!
>oh shit we also need a story I guess
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>>335006468
Hey, my shit tier server Brynhildr actually moved up a couple spots since last time.
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>>335006104
Even if XV is successful they'll keep stealing all of XIV's money, because running it on bare bones is apparently good enough to make money.
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>>335006362

Why are you posting Y'shtola? She's not blind.
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>>335006661
yes, and a majority of the playerbase isn't autistic enough to go to through hundreds of hours of story quests 8 times
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>>335006743

I didn't get them to level 60. Most are under 20.
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>>335006656
Says the retard who also can't back up how many of those 639k characters are real subs, and can't also deny the fact that it lost more than 100k subs and just keeps losing more and more players, and can't even shill right and spin those numbers lost into people who stopped bothering with their alts.
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YO LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT THE FUCKING BOTS AND THE FACT THAT THE CENSUS HAS SUCH A LOW REQUIREMENT THAT BEING ABOVE LEVEL 21 AND HAVING A MOUNT AND LEVELING UP IS ENOUGH.

>a bot sub is a sub tho
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>>335006578
SE is the master of bad business decisions. What else is new? Even FFXV has questionable design aspects. And this is their biggest game ever made.
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>>335006578
>Put a bunch of BRs and Chinks in charge of XIV

Don't you DARE tarnish Tanaka's vision!
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>>335006820
>>a bot sub is a sub tho
That's true in SE's eyes. Why ban the bots when they still pay for the sub. Literally fucking thousands of the things cluttering up the game. I'd bet a good 100k or more of the current characters are blm/arc bots.
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>>335006819
It's okay anon, I've already won. You've admitted I'm right. It's time to let go and fix your autism.
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>>335006854
Literally all he had to do was make FFXI HD and fix all the stupid shit that wasn't fun and everyone would have played it from day 1.

No idea what those fuckups were thinking when they designed 1.0
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>>335006854
What's happening here? Why make a webm of this?
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>>335006949
>my game is dying and dropping subs like flies every day
>b-b-b-b-b-but I already won

Ok kid.
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>>335006835
XV looks really stupid desu

Letting Nomura design everything was a mistake.
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>>335006979
They were making FFXI and served FFXI to the west instead of FFXI+1 expansion.
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>>335006854
It's because Square-Enix nowadays are mainly a publisher and almost all of their development are outsourced. Many their in-house developers are contracted, so they can be "restructured" at a moment's notice should the balance sheet look bad.
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>>335006468
>TFW I'm on Siren
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>>335007049
Nomura has had nothing to do with the game for years.
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>>335006468
>Balmung has twice as many characters as the next biggest server

Jesus Christ no wonder /xivg/ is such a shitshow
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>>335007121
He's responsible for the base art design that everything is built off of, and it looks like anus.
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>>335004128
Bring it back anon. You can't let that go away.
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>>335001054
Half of that shit listed requires nothing but farming content you've already done.

That isn't shit to do, that's just rewards for doing the same shit.
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>queue for leveling Roulette
>get a Primal

Nah it's ok I didn't join leveling roulette to get EXP anywah
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>>335005627
Shiva va Ravana

Glad i wasnt the only one incredibly disapointed.
I dont think Ravana, even moved from that spot the entire fight
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>>335007492
At least Ravana himself was great. Probably my favorite phase transition of any of the non Coil stuff.
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>>335007627
>ravana is actually just a reskin of mobs from FFXI

They really have no shame.
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Why don't you have a perfect chocobo yet?
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I'm still upset that they made all of the previous content irrelevant

When is mobile FFXI coming out?
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>>335003556
XI races generally had more personality/unique traits, and the lower GRAFIX and art style made you use more of your imagination since the models weren't super realistic.

XIV is more homogenized where everything is just basically a human with a few features though. Also the way the models are built they look like they're made of plastic, and the generic UGUU~ anime faces make them look like dolls instead of peoples as a result.

Just bad design desu senpai, no idea why they moved the XI team to anything that wasn't XIV when they did such a good job on the first game.
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>>335003372
Just join ZR you goon
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>>335007754
Still slated for later this year hope you like Nexon Yoshida picked them himself.
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>>335007841
I actually dont imagine anything for mithra in game models. I love them as they are and love them much more than shitty miqotes.
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one more month and we can see what the next expansion will bring, they better make a competent expansion, specially since RDM and BLU jobs could easily carry this bored fest after the boring as fuck AST, and the abomination DRK became. Only MCH was fun really.
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>Level up SMN as my main
>Get bored and check out the SCH side
>Love it even more
>Realize I have to reset stats every time I change jobs if I want to play both
>Forced to pick just 1 because it's a huge pain in the ass

Is this ever going to be fixed or what
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>>335008056
>abomination DRK became
explain
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>>335008056
RDM and BLU are just going to get raped.

They neutered DRK, MCN, and AST's uniqueness in the name of 'class balance'. Even after the expansion released, they said no to class customization, gear uniqueness because of yet again, 'class balance'. Better give up.
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>>335008230
They should just remove stat distribution altogether. Utterly pointless under the current design.
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>A7N
>Everyone is doing well
>Except the OT War
>He doesnt swap so the MT dies
>He doesnt move the boss when the heart spawns near him
>We wipe at 2%
>BRD calls him out on not swapping or moving the boss
>OT War spergs out, saying im muting everyone
>Says we should dps the heart instead of bitching
>Wants us to dps a heart that lasts for >1 sec because the boss is right on it
>We initiate a kick for him
>Curses all of us
>Healer 1:"You can mute players but you cant mute mechanics"
>faggot tank gets kick and we get an infinitely better one
>Smooth fight no one dies
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>>335007927
Are you serious?
Nexon?
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>>335008256
lets take it step by step, I come with a argument, and you come with a counter argument.

>Dark Knight, well know for being a heavy hitter in the final fantasy franchise, by sacrificing HP to transfer it into damage
>A tank in ff14
your turn
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>>335008056
RDM will be a sword BRD that restores MP instead of TP, so NIN with an MP Goad aka Refresh. BLU will be a melee with cast times or half melee half spells, you'll learn monster abilities every 5 levels from job quests by killing whatever quest mob they throw in, and all their abilities will be on par with whatever every other DPS have like stuns, binds, silences, self buffs, one raid utility, etc.

Please look forward to it.
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>>334999817

Yes, her and Yda.
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>>335008361
Yep. He's doing his best to sabotage XI.0
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>>335008462
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>>335008354
Thanks for sharing
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>>335008291
and that why I most likely will just play the next expansion for like 2 months then quit
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>>335008361
>We are pleased to welcome as our partner NEXON, Co., Ltd., a company that boasts a variety of experiences and a world class track record in both developing and operating MMORPGs on mobile platforms.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/46414-Conference-Digest

100$ serious, Yoshida is the corporate executive in charge of the MMO division, so he personally appointed them and oversaw the deal.
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>>335008557
Don't forget to 5 star and subscribe
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>>335008056
DRK isnt too bad but yeah the anti synergy blows. To this day I still think its part of the theme of DRK as its anti synergy can be seen as chaotic but then I sound like im justifying bad design.
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>>335008387
>drk's signature is sacrificing hp for powerful stuff
>they can't even incorporate sacrificing hp for tankiness in a way that still leaves them relatively equal to the other tanks because yoship's dev team can't into math.
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>>335007841
>, and the generic UGUU~ anime faces make them look like dolls instead of peoples as a result.
Your fault for using extra wide eyes and eyelashes
just make them smaller with small iris
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>>335008631
>DRK isnt too bad but yeah the anti synergy blows.
huh?
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>>335008749
Dark passenger blinding enemies when you dark arts it, when you want to be hit as much as possible to benefit from blood price.

Enmity combo being the worst one

Staying in tank stance is detrimental as it locks you out of blood weapon

Parry reliant for procs on reprisal but specializes in magic mitigation, which cant be parried
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>>335008646
Indeed. FF14 is the worse game in the series when we talk about deph, its gameplay is fun for 2 months then you realise here no parameters you can modify to feel unique, here only one thing you can do to become usefull, is so.. depghless.. is ugly, is like a void.

Also Summoner suffered as much as DRK too, have you seeing how boring the class is?
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>>335008505
>>335008586
That's nice, we'll get more quality work like
http://archive.is/Q9PSD
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>>335008904
All the tank stances have downsides. Blood Weapon is meant as your MP Regen for when you are OTing.

I never got the whole "specializes in magic mitigation" thing either, they literally only have 1 magic mitigation skill. All their other defensive abilities cover all damage or physical specifically (Dark Dance). DA Dark Passenger is just another form of mitigation. You do want to be hit during Blood Price but you can't have it up all the time. Don't really see why enmity combo having 10 less potency than the other one matters.
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I'll never forgive them for how they ended the Ul'dah storyline.
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>>335002662
>>335002882

Diddn't FFXI borrow a bit from Everquest?
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>>335009196
>blood weapon when you are OTing

you use it when you MT as well, all tanks should be stance dancing.

It specializes in magic mitigation because dark mind is by far the strongest cooldown of any tank for magic mitigation and delirium also applies an INT down debuff.

PLD is classified as the physical tank as it has the ability to block and has rage of halone.

And WAR is classified as the overall tank with storms path and inner beast mitigating all types of damage.

This isnt exactly rocket science
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Is it worth getting into XIV now?
A friend keeps asking me to play with him.
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I remember when DRK was announced to be a Mana tank, people were excited, people through "Hmm maybe if we add more Piety to a DRK by materia infusing the class will gaing more sustain and better self mana regen* a small light of hope that the game maybe would gaing some deph, but no, stack determination and crit up the ass even when they only add 0.0000001 %+ and play the game like everibody
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>>335009213
>implying it's over
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>>335009196
They're considered magic 'special' because every tank has one minor mitigation and one major mitigation (the rest is almost inconsequential like blood bath or rampart, etc). Drk has one minor and one major that are both inferior to pld and war (either in duration or strength) but they have one extra magic mitigation that they can stack on either. If a tank buster is magic, then drk pulls ahead of mitigation by stacking.
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>>335009358
What's the worst that could happen anon?
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>>335009358
Some of the fights are really fun.

It's probably worth subbing for like 2 months.
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>>335009269
So did WoW and both that and XI went on to become their own thing. XIV is forever stuck as a shitty modern WoW clone that hasn't substantially changed in 3 years.
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>>335009269
If B and C borrows from A, do you consider C having borrowed from B? Especially when B came out before C?

What are you trying to pull? Cause right now I'm only seeing you trying to be a moron.
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>>335009358
No it's not. he's only trying to get you to play so you can suffer with him. Or even worse: you buy xiv and then he quits.
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>>335009332
>you use it when you MT as well, all tanks should be stance dancing.
People say this and yet I almost never see it actually happen. Dropping tank stance is a good way to very quickly lose aggro.
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>>335009452
>Drk has one minor and one major that are both inferior to pld and war (either in duration or strength)

Shadowskin is an exact copy of rampart. Shadow wall is inferior to sentinel but thats because they bring reprisal, which stacks with storms path for added mitigation.
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>>335009680
Im guessing you only ever duty finder content and have never attempted end game raiding.

A single powerslash combo will ensure you have a firm grip on enmity for a long time to come. Without a NIN youll lose enmity quicker but at that point you can just pop in grit, powerslash and then pop right back out or stay in it, whatever you prefer.
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>>335009376
>Implying bringing the Sultana back didn't kill it in it's track.
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>>335008354
>MT couldn't survive Uplander doom without swapping

lol
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>>335009787
Savage/Extreme content is for autists.
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>>335009942
why even play this game if you're not going to do the contet?
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>>335009687
Shadowskin is not an exact copy of rampart. Check their durations. Hell, read my () you quoted.

Shadow wall has the same cooldown as sentinel but less mitigation (which is actually equal to warrior's vengeance but the vengeance's cooldown is only 2 mins as opposed to 3).

Face it, drk's 2 biggest mitigation is pretty much just a mishmash of paladin and warrior with inferior stats. It's the stackable magic mitigation that makes drk 'magic strong'.
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>>335010031
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Rampart

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Shadowskin

I already commented on why shadow wall is weaker than sentinel

Are you seriously this dumb?
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>>335010017
>newfag
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>>335010017
I do do the content. Get all the same story even. Only difference is that I don't study youtube videos of 14 minute dance routines that I practice every week over and over for items that will be replaced by welfare gear in the next patch.
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>>335010229
So you wait months at a time only to be far behind raiders in gear for the entirety of your ffxiv career, while also never experiencing the whole game?

And you call others autistic?
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>>335010229

Only playing the story versions of content is like only playing demos of games and thinking you still experienced them.
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>>335010447
>far behind raiders in gear
So? The only thing they're getting gear for is the same content they're already running. What do I care what someone else's autism-o-meter is?
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>>335010229
>>335010447
>>335010594
>>335010909

normal mode was a mistake
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>>335007746

Tell me your secrets. What is the best skill to inherit? Should I always go for a 9 rank sire? Where can I get grade 3 feed and when should I start using feed in general?
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>>335011096
My personal opinion is that the best skills are Choco Cure 3, Increased Stamina 3 and possibly Paradigm Shift. Choco Dash 3 is also pretty good but in late game its usefulness is limited because you run so fast that the boost is barely noticeable.

Using high grade covering permissions is unnecessary at first, since you can only ever improve a chocobo's pedigree by 1 (1 higher than the lower of the two parents. i.e. pedigree 1 + pedigree 9 = pedigree 2). Higher grade covering permissions don't roll better stats, but they can have higher level abilities. This is also somewhat unnecessary though since you can eventually unlock training manuals for every ability by completing the chocobo challenge races.

All grades of feed can be bought at the tack and feed trainer in Chocobo Square. Grade 1 costs gil, grade 2 and 3 cost MGP. Using feed is always a good idea since it only serves to put you above your competitors (using feed doesn't increase a chocobo's rating), so it just depends on how much you are willing to spend. Personally I only used grade 1 until I got my perfect chocobo and then used grade 3 to maximise its potential.
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>tfw the only friend of mine that still plays this shit decided to transfer to a different server without even telling me
>tfw realizing that I've spent 40 of the past 365 days playing FFXIV
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>>335001550
Its worth noting that when the game was released you didn't have people 40 item levels higher than that trial minimum filling out every single run. the fact they give the i90 artifact gear out now during the class quests makes the entire "end" of ARR's vanilla story a damn joke.
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>>335011670
I suspect they will do the same in the later patches of HW. Look forward to getting eso gear from your job quests.
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>>335010447
Like raiders can talk shit about "experiencing the whole game". I'm sure everyone in your static has 60 fishing.

>>335010594
Would rather play the demo if the "real game" requires me to schedule appointments to log in to a video game and spend my evenings with 7 mouthbreathers who can't execute simple mechanics.
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>>335011429

Interesting. I just assumed say.. a 9 pedigree mate would pass on better stats to a low level mate. What do you do to get a perfect (all 4 stars) do you just interbreed and hope that the hatchling gets lucky and inherits the right stuff?
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>>335011850
They actually do. I have everything at 60 currently.
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>>335011850
>underestimating a raider's autism

They're either raid loggers or grind everything out kinda people.
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>>335011850
>Like raiders can talk shit about "experiencing the whole game". I'm sure everyone in your static has 60 fishing.
Are you that guy who told people to level everything and aim for shit achievements when they complained there was not enough content?
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>>335006979
>No idea what those fuckups were thinking when they designed 1.0


Most of the changes that were made to the game in the time since he left and yoshida took over were already planned. One of the first things to go were the experience penalties and such. Under Tanaka they'd already planned and designed the plotlines about the primals and the moon ect. Fights were already designed and redesign of the combat system was given priority over them.
Yoshida released the work done under Tanaka's guidance and everyone attributes it to him as having "saved Final Fantasy XIV" but all he did was leave a small team on to do what Tanaka would have done while he had them work on creating their new WoW clone that they can shit out standard content patches on with easy and rake in easy money.

By the end of 1.0 it looked and played like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JF4QMVTuSA
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>>335003034
>duty roulette
>steps of faith
FULL PARTY
LIGHT PARTY
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>>335008007

Mithra looked like shit and were shit, nostalgiafag
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>>335012428
this
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>>335009546
>What are you trying to pull? Cause right now I'm only seeing you trying to be a moron.

I was just asking, anon. No need to sperg out like some underage autist.
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>>335012251

I like the part where everyone stood around and did nothing the whole fight.

Also that dragoon jump is so half hearted looking.
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>>335008007

>I like low res, blurry and blocky catgirls
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>that feel when using cheat engine to edit your character's appearance
>can wear virtually any outfit in the game and never have to spend a single gil on glamors
>can run around as a femlala in underwear and not be bothered by anybody since the edits are client-side only.

Feels fuckin good having all this power.
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>>335006468
You know I can pretend being on Zalera isn't that bad until you post things like this.
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>>335012793

> Feels fuckin good having all this power

o man you have so much power to change you're outfit even though no one can see it

you are retarded
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>>335011887
Here's how it works: Your chocobo's actual race stats (those listed under "own") are not what is passed on. Instead it's the ratings under their parentage that have the chance to be passed on.

Say you're looking at a male chocobo. When it has offspring, it will look at the father's parentage and for each stat it picks randomly between either the male or female side. The sides it picks then form the male-side pedigree for the offspring. The same goes for the mother. It randomly picks between their parents to form the offspring's female side pedigree.

The offpsring's actual race stats are then also selected randomly between those on its male pedigree side and those on its female pedigree side. Effectively it's a series of coin flips.

I tried to draw a diagram to explain what I'm talking about.

You are essentially looking for two things:
A high "potential" - i.e. the maximum number of stars a chocobo can confer to its offspring based on the ratings of its parents
The chance to achieve that potential - For every stat that isn't the same on both a chocobo's male and female side, it's a coin flip on whether they pass down the one you want. If they need to roll twice, it's a 25% chance. Three times, 12.5% chance, etc. You want to get chocobos with high stats on both sides of the family so they can more easily pass it down to their children.
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>>335012730
>playing cats at all
>not playing superior bulldykes
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>itt ffxi autists still crying about their overrated time sink shit game

Please give me more, your tears sustain me
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>>335013437
>femroe friend keeps following me around and bullying my smaller huyr
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>>335012975

>implying I give two shits about other people seeing my glamors

Stay mad, crafterfag. I ain't buying your overpriced pieces.
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>you will never experience the rebirth of a game again
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We are live boys, maintenance is over.
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2.5 GDC
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>>335013903
yeah I'm the only one on Zalera atm ;_;
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>>335013802
>You will never experience the end of a game
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i wonder who they are gonna repleace yugiri's english VA with

i swear she's only shown up once in HW
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Do you think cats like have their tail played with during sex?
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>>335014326
Absolutely.
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>>335014198
They already replaced her in the patch where you fight Ilberd. She sounds like a racist japanese caricature.
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>>335003704
dont they have something like that already with the guys who follow garuda?
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>>335014598

Ixali are crafting.
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>>335004073
brown cats are the best
brown cats who dont have awful colored hair are better
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>>335001173
He is cold, he complains about it several times during your misadventures in coerthas

Half the reason he even gets a new outfit in HW is because his regular fuccboi getup wouldn't cut it up for an extended stay in ishgard
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I got around doing the beast tribe quest, and the quests in Little ala migo are a bit dark, Aren't they?
Slave catgirls, rescue catgirls, catgirls that are brainwashed and called spearbride. Are catgirls only for rape?
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>>335014968
Amal'jaa will take anybody, it just so happens catgirls are the most convenient target in the area.
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>>335014968
>Are catgirls only for rape?
Literally the only thing they're good for.
Doubly so for catboys
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>>335014968
That's all they're good for.
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>>335003228
>making fun of someone for having a job when you have to cry and beg people on steam for games
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>>335015021
But it's implied that they are for pleasure and maybe some breeding?
Might be over analysing since its monsters, catpeople and Japan
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>>335015206
Forgot picture
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>>335014531
i honestly hardly remember hearing yugiri speak much before HW

also where exactly is doma on the map? i'd figure we probably end up there soon since the garleans are trying to take it over
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>>335015358
The Garleans already took it over, and razed it to the ground as an example to others. The whole reason the domans arrived as refugees is because they literally have no home anymore.
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So, when does crafting get hard? I'm almost 50 WVR and it's fairly easy to HQ anything around my level as long as my gear is updated - I don't even have 50 CRP for that op byregot's blessing either.

Does difficulty scale up once you hit the endgame recipes or something? Or is it just hard in terms of being a gil sink to afford melds and stuff.
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What is the best beast tribe and why is it the Kobolds?

>Not misunderstood good guys, just lazy as fuck and bitter about the success of others.
I love them.
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>tfw want yojimbo is the sam mentor and you get daigoro as a mount once you hit level cap
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>>335015358
>Trying to take it over
They had control over it. Then us fighting back inspired the Domans to also fight the empire.

They didn't have lolhax like we did so they got fucked up the ass. Doma is literally wiped off the map.
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>>335015791
If Yojimbo is gonna be anything he should be a primal fight.
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>>335015686
Bestbugs, but Kobolds are best ARR beast tribe.
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>>335015895
i'd be fine with either or really though i'd prefer to pal around the world with him and make money
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>>335015641
There is no skill involved in crafting. All you need is enough stats and the right macro to churn out items over and over. If you've been led to believe how good the crafting in the game by posts in these threads, you've been bamboozled.
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>>335015206
I'd wager Amalj'aa can't breed with Miqo'te, but that's just my assumption of physiology. It is implied that many Amalj'aa are tempered, but it can't be the whole population because the tempered have limited processes of their own and there has to be at least a higher caste that gives orders.

Given this, there is definitely a possibility that the Miqo'te females are kept for pleasure purposes for the Amalj'aa that retain their minds.

My personal theory though is that the spear part is more important than the wives part. Traditionally and for generations, Miqo'te female would've been the only regular captives. The U tribe is located near the Amalj'aa aetheryte, and only female Seekers typically leave the village. The Amalj'aa would keep the ones that're better suited for combat instead of sacrificing them to Ifrit, dubbing them spearwives because they serve a particular Amalj'aa or because they're spiritually wed to Ifrit instead of being turned into fodder.
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Started playing recently. Autistically grinding each class to 15 before I settle on a job.
Leaning towards Arcainist for the Scholar/Summoner open endedness or Dragoon/Ninja for ultimate EDGE
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>>335015924
>>335015686
My 789th order niggas
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>>335016194
>Dragoon/Ninja for ultimate EDGE
Dark Knight unlocked at level 50 though.
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>>334999683
I don't get this reasoning. It's not like they've forgotten about it, you're just busy doing something else in the storyline. And when they try to cover multiple things people just get confused and skip it.
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>>335016260
Dark Knights only pretend to be edgy because they're embarrassed about having love powers.
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>Azys Lla, ancient floating city that has been hidden from the world for millenia.
>Still have to pay the lala jew cabal when I teleport there.
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>>335016260
DPS is inherently more edgy than tanking.
Also how do the tanks play in this? The don't look as fun as the other roles.
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>>335016454
>Tank
Press 1,2,3 for aggo
Press 4,5 for damage
Occasionally pop Cooldowns to reduce damage taken

>DPS
Follow set rotation and dance along with the boss.
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>>335016338
THE EDGE IS CALLING TONIGHT
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>>335015686
Vath are pretty fucking cool. Deftarm is 10/10 kouhai.
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>>335016562
>Vath consumable merchandise
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>>335015791
chances are they'd use Iroha as a SAM mentor since she's stuck here

Yojimbo would be best as the Qiqirn primal
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>>335016448
>While it may appear as though this is automatically deducted from your savings, you are in fact paying this fee to nearby attendants. This scene is simply omitted for gameplay reasons.
Maybe one of the tiny Allagan systems forces you to pay once you arrive.
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>>335016454
It's way more involved than it is in most MMOs but the tank classes have less buttons to press than other classes and they skip over a lot of the mechanics that make encounters interesting.

That being said, every class has a lot to do at high levels and tanks usually have the responsibility of setting an encounter. Depending on your taste and style, it can be way more fun and way more challenging to play one than to play anything else because you're dealing with different things.

DPS are active classes that need to learn rotations, sometimes very complicated ones, and balance it out with their own mechanics and encounter mechanics.

Tanks are reactive classes that have simple rotations but require the most on-spot thinking in order to use abilities appropriately and adjust themselves according to more dynamic encounters or to their own group's play.

Healers fall somewhere inbetween in that they need to account for the group and situations like tanks, but they need to press a lot of buttons regularly and deal with mechanics like DPS. They don't really top either role in their difficulties because healing skills are usually more simple than DPS, and you have a larger margin of error than tanks due to encounter design and kits.
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>>335016140
That's quite impressive, thanks
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>>335015206

spearwife just means a woman who fights in battles/wars etc. it has no sexual meaning.

I doubt beastribes are attracted to the civilized races, that's too much of a doujin trope. They just capture miqote to temper them as fighters.
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>XIV has been out for a good while and there are hardly and doujins

what fucking gives
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>>335017568

There are lots, they just dont get scanned

This is one of the few that has been
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>look at the census for last year
>says their more elezen then au'ra
i need to look at the exact date that was taken because that feels wrong i hardly see a lot of elezen compaired to au'ra
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>>335016536
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>>334999817
>>334998835
Minfilia is ded m8's
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>>335017967
nice dyke haircut
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>>335018075

yeah but you can still put your face in her butt even if shes dead
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>>335018229
ur welcome m8
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>>335017967

Because those numbers include dead characters. Of course the newest race has the lowest overall numbers before you trim the fat.
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>>335018358
i guess thats true, i wonder what it will be like if they do it again this year
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>>335017737
Where/what are they? I'd consider importing and scanning them.
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>>335017989

SAY MY NAME
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>>335018448

I don't have specifics but I know someone that lives in japan and he says there's been a lot of XIV stuff at the last couple comikets.
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>tfw 22 minute wait times.
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>>335018554
I went to Japan in August 2015.
I went to the Eorzea cafe and then Akihabara.
I did enter a sex shop and yes there were quite a few XIV
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>>335018645
what server are you on i could run you through a dungeon or two before i sleep
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>>335018754
tell me you saw some kann e senna doujins
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>>335018645
holy shit you're ugly
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>>335018851
Maybe

>>335018852
Thats Gilgamesh anon.
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Any Odinfags here?
How's your server?
Do you even raid?

Planning to transfer to some EU because fuck paying for VPN
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>>335018910
>maybe

you tell me right now you nigger
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>>335018645
>face 4
mah nigga almost everyone i see picks that one goofy looking face
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>>335018432
Look up your server here
luckybancho.ldblog.jp/wsurvey.htm?world=Balmung

it's in moon but scroll down a bit and you'll see the race/subrace distribution, this guy's survey only counts "active" characters which iirc was characters that have had any change on their lodestone profile since the last survey in January and to discount bots it only counts profiles with the chocobo you get after the lvl20 msq.
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>>335018945
Yes
Decent, small French and Kraut infestation but vast majority are English.
Yes.
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>>335019047
It's the only one that has the right proportions in my eyes
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Best face
Haters gonna hate
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>>335019152
i like it for the more serious look though it can be really cute at times too
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>characterposting

Threads over.
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The music for fieldcraft leves is so comfy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wZ_VT1SiHg
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>>335019346
Ebin :^)
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>Been playing since 2.0 beta
>Everytime I create a new character I've got like 30 badass items waiting for me in the mailbox

Feelsgoodman.jpg
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I guess we'll see on 29th if this anon was legit or not
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>>335019076
>Au Ra is third most popular race on my server
Wow
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>>335019457
are we missing any other beast tribes after moogles?
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>>335019579

goblins? I guess.
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>>335019617
>goblins
i want this now those fuckers are cool as shit
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>>335019579
Gobins
Qiqirn
Mamool Ja

If they were really reaching they could probably make a Dragon tribe, or use the node systems in Azys Lla.
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>>335019763
i wouldn't mind seeing those harpy things get a few quest either
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>>335019475
Pretty much goes Miqo'te > Hyur > Au Ra on every server far as I know.
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>>335018945
I'm on odin but I'm still kinda new, I haven't hit the level cap yet
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>>335020017
Yeah
>nobody is a femroe like me
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>>334999817
I'd rather give Lady Iceheart the dick
>>
ARR up until the last patch had some pretty bad dungeons
>every dungeon except 4 in the 2.0 ones are generic caves and tombs
Story was pretty shit and not Final Fantasy
HW fixed most of the shit problems in ARR about its story and made it feel like a mix between IV and VI, it's a shame the end game goes tits up.
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>>335000939
I love the official forums, biggest cesspull of WoWmigrants and white knights wish I had a screen cap asking why 3000 needles does so much damage.

Why do these people come into XIV but know nothing about the series?
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>>335005923
>>SE will never stop stealing money from XIV so we can have well designed content
Tell Yoshida to stop spending money on pointless tours and vacations so he can actually work on the game.
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>>335023224
>yoshida goes to pax east for a pointless PR QnA when there's nothing to announce
>brings his entourage of devs so that they dont work and make them set up the stupid sephirot challenge
>Then another live letter on the 29th..in Chiba (where the fuck is that? not the fucking tokoy office that's for sure)
>that's another change for a local vacation and tourism for him and his team

Remember end june till early november last year? It's happening again.
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>>335002020

It's incredibly easy. You switch between multiple hotbars in a single two-button press. Easy, unless you're a drooling retard.

Pretty much all of my classes use 3 hotbars, never had any problems.
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>>335023821
The concept of switching hotbars is wizardry to some people and they would rather give EVERYTHING a unique keybind, spilling over into all kinds of silly alt/ctrl/shift combinations.

It's funny that it's fellow pc players that do this too, since controller users are kind of forced to roll with multiple hotbars.
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>>335022734
I remember that like 1.5 years ago there was a huge forum shitthrowing thread where the OP was a tranny who demanded that everybody referred to player characters by their in-game gender
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>>335025483
I remember the huge shitstorm about marriage how only Male and females can get married.
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>>335014968
It's not rape if it's a cat.
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>>335025268

Yeah one of my healers is like that, and I'm just sat here thinking is it really that difficult to learn where your buttons are? Not like you get 60 levels to learn that shit.

I've had a m+kb plugged in since my second month and I still just find it easier to switch between hotbars on controller, just muscle memory for everything. They were shocked when I said I only use the cross hotbar for quick class switching, just don't need it for weapon/tool skills.

Definitely take kb+m for navigating all the stupid menus and mb etc though.
>>
Got all my jobs to level 50 in vanilla and I never purchased heavensward. Once I started to tackle the level 50 story quests I just lost motivation to continue.

I blame my spazzy autism that expects players to use VoIP for the sake of shitpoasting instead off only end game raiding. I also blame the community being ravaged by raidfinder.
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>>335005102
>Au Ra as a concept are fine
Fucking furries lmao
>>
>>335015686
sounds like mexicans
>>
>>335025268
If only macros weren't so fucking awful in this game
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>>335030221
More like /v/
>tfw no gf
>>
>>335030375
What were they thinking
>Can't input gcd macros early like every other gcd skill
>ogcd skills won't even fucking activate while you're in an animation
>can't use macro to add macros to hotbar
>/wait is Literally useless
>>
>>335031570
Is it me or is there an input delay on macros?
>>
>>335031570
Combat macros are pretty pointless except for the buff removal command, crafting macros are great.
>>
>>335031769

One north american server in Canada. If you're not near it you're SOL.
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>>335032003
I want to lick Minfilia's stomach.
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>>335032003
>Combat macros are pretty pointless
/ac "Flaming Arrow" <t>
/ac "Shukuchi" <t>
/ac "Shadow Flare" <t>
/ac "Rook Autoturret" <me>
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>>335032003
Who would win in a squat contest? Yda or Cloud?
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>>335015895
>mechanic where Quirim are rushing to offer him money and if they give him too much he insta wipes the party
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>>334997426
Terrible WoW clone just like all WoW clones including WoW itself.
>>
I would rather cut off my right arm than subscribe to an MMO.
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>>335033713
Older MMOs were god-like though.
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>>335005461
Back when I played WoW it always bugged me when my guild mates changed to their alts and suddenly are referred to with other names. I always hated that. THAT takes away identity. It's not the class that defines the player character, it's the character themselves.
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>That ending vista
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>>335018075

>I told minfilia to kill herself and she actually did it! The absolute madwoman!

Hydaelyn is fucking evil

Thordan was right
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>>335034114
I thought Hydaelyn is both the Crystal of Light and Dark.

Isnt that what the story is constantly hinting at? Two sides of the same coin?
>>
>>335034268

Wow bro you really didn't pay attention at all did you

Zodiark is the antithesis to Hydaelyn. The Ascians are Zodiark's minions.
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I wanna play it so bad but fuck paying for subs. It's so fucking expensive in my currency.

I can also only play 3-4 hours a day since I have job.
But if I go back being a NEET then I won't be able to afford it.
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Will the WoL ever turn down a request? Towards the end of HW and in the patch content, they seem to get pained expressions on their face when someone asks them to do something, especially one of the Scions, and the Scion is like "uh, er, sorry, I know we're asking you to do this for us yet AGAIN, but could you please, I'll be your friend." They're so utterly useless and constantly asking for favors, and it feels like WoL is starting to get tired, if not fed up. Or I'm just reading too much into things because I want WoL to say no.
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>>335034426
Zodiark and Hyadaelyn are the same rock.

You've been tricked.
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>>335034706

Wrong

Zodiark is the moon
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>Moenbyrda
>anytime she's on screen

That fuckin' skrillex hairstyle looks like hot garbage but the rest of her is super hot.
>>
How do you guys decide between English v Japanese dub?
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>>335007470

>Complaining about getting 30+% of your level in 5 minutes
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>>335035308
English speakers find the english dub terrible, japs find the jap dub terrible. Pick your poison.
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>>335035308
I didn't even think to change it to Japanese before starting the game. Now I'm stuck with an ever-changing cast, because it'd be weird to leave English after all this time, and half the new voices are shit. I'd recommend Japanese, if only for consistency's sake.
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>>335008230

Does the 35 points really matter in the long run? Like, distribute 20 points to int, 15 to mind, is either one REALLY going to perform substandard missing 20 or 15 points?
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>>335035308
Only 10% of it is dubbed, but I doubt jap is any better.
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>>335035868
you just keepers hymn to swap missing any of those points for free is pretty massive hit on dps
>>
Why does the BLM lore weapon look so shitty
>>
>>335035868
It's retarded to go half despite what any retard will tell you, if you're not maxing every main stat point you're shit. 35 less MND might be nothing compared to other main stats because MND scales like shit, but it's still 35 less INT in Cleric Stance and INT has more weight.
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>>335035963
i thinks a little bland at worst personally i like it
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>>335036047

I have a hard time believing that at current endgame where your main stat will reach 1100+ that ~15-20 points will matter.
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>>335036584
All points matter, not maxing your character is retarded, you're intentionally nerfing yourself for no benefit especially because raw INT does shit for SCH and so does MND for SMN, and it's a shit way to excuse how badly they fucked up with branching classes. The only excusable case for not maxing a main stat is healers trading MND for VIT during very early progression.
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>>335035903
Jap is better, if only because you don't have to listen to the retarded lines
>>
>>335035963
Why does the entire game look shitty?
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>>335036854

So you picked the race with the highest int or mind, then? Do you fantasia every time you want to switch classes?

Do you use HQ stat potions every 5 minutes? HQ max level food for every dungeon?
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>>335035963
Kannagi is just a bad, didn't even bother.
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>>335037065
>Do you use HQ stat potions every 5 minutes? HQ max level food for every dungeon?

If you're a raider, yes, you're a retard if you don't and you're only holding back everyone, dungeons not so much. Of course if you're a casual shitter none of this matter so sure, go half INT and half MND for the convenience of not using a 200 seals item, and make dungeons go slower for everyone else.

>So you picked the race with the highest int or mind, then? Do you fantasia every time you want to switch classes?

I'm sure some hardcore autists do this, 2-4 points is still nothing compared to 35 points so it's not even the same comparison, especially when one item to change points costs 200 seals and the other costs $10.
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