Invading just ain't worth it. Did they try to actively ruin PvP for this game?
>>334996239
yes
>>334996239
Use a red soapstone if you want duels you dumb nigger. Otherwise git gud and stop whining.
>>334996239
git gud
>>334996239
Invading isn't meant for the invader to win but it's meant to harass players that summon too much. Maybe you can kill one or two phantoms and force the hist to chug on estus. But winning is hardly achievable.
If you want true 1v1 pvp, just use the red soap sign.
PK isn't the same as PVP, fucking retard.
What does sin do in this game?
In ds2 if you sinned Blue's would invade you and Lost Sinner's Sword did less damage per sin.
Does it have any affect in this game at all? There's a place you can go to remove the sin you've accumulated so surely sin must have an effect?
How are the Caestus? Was gonna do a Hamon user build for fun (lightning enchant)
>>334996492
I don't think any amount of git gud can fix this. In DaS1 the fastest and easiest way to do pvp was to invade. Now invading just means you're giving the host free souls.
>>334996575
I'll just have to hope there are people that will even want to duel
>tfw hosts keep disconnecting when I parry their summons and force them to watch their summon get destroyed by the Greataxe's hornet ring parry animation
>>334996239
>fromsoft makes invading actually challenging for once
>invaders cry like babies
>waa I can't club seals as easily anymore
git gud
>>334996725
>How are the Caestus?
Trash just like everything that isn't a straight sword, estoc, rapier, or katana unfortunately
>>334996575
This is how I always play when invading. Once you get the orb, there are no repercussions. Duel-fags can use the siapstone, I want liven up some poor random assholes playing experience. Invaders should never concern themselves with thoughts of dying.
>>334996863
I see, is there a chance for a patch that balances stuff to make it less skewed towards boring weapons?
Gain expertise
Increase your proficiency.
Top your previous skill level
Get better
Upgrade your abilities
Develop talent.
>>334996958
Probably not
>>334996778
There are plenty of people who want to duel. Go to Kiln anywhere from SL70-100 and you can get summoned no problem. It takes seconds for me. Invasions were never meant to be structured PvP, DaS 3 just puts the advantage in the host's corner now.
holy shit why does the rapier stunlock so much
>>334996665
>There's a place you can go to remove the sin you've accumulated
The sin of accidentally pissing off an NPC maybe. You don't get sin for invading anymore.
>>334996239
Why do you make this thread every night?
Kill yourself.
>>334996725
shit damage, and it barely stunlocks npcs, players will get stunlocked but they can roll out after a few hits, chance are they wont make the same mistake of letting you close in
>>334996239
Yes they never wanted you tryhards.
>>334996575
>meant to harass players that summon too much
I'm doing a lot of co-op with friends for my second playthrough, getting invaded is actually a good thing, since it's never a challenge being 3/4v1 and we also get an estus for killing the invader. Getting invaded actually helps the group more than it bothers.
>>334996725
Really, really good for parrying in the offhand. Not sure its even worth using otherwise
PvP is fine, I always use the red soap stone. it's just a bunch of kids upset that they get ganked whenever they invade someone's world.
If you're halting the progress of someone else's game, don't expect them to play fairsy wairsy playground rules with you.
I actually prefer invasions the way they are. I had always felt somewhat guilty doing invasions but people who summon their way through these games don't deserve any sympathy. Invasions are certainly more difficult and frustrating but it's worth it in the end.
When you do come out victorious in these invasions it's far more satisfying than ever before. There is nothing like the sight of the host turning around and fleeing back to the bonfire after you just destroyed his phantoms right in front of him. He knows he doesn't stand a chance against you. You just killed his autoplay feature and his only hope is to run in circles until more phantoms can come and help him. Then you shoot him in the back with your bow until he runs out of estus and dies like a bitch. All that progress that others made for him, gone. No better feeling.
>>334997506
Is it as good as bucklers or is it just a regular parry?
>>334996239
You can win a lot of 3 v 1 battles just by being good and knowing how to use not only the environment but the right items.
You need to think about what they are doing and what's coming around the corner and what you can do to not get trapped.
Someone hyper aggressive with a slow weapon? Break out the parry dagger.
They prone to chase? Use rope weapons to throw items behind you to punish.
They use seed of the giant? Maybe use your new found abilities to aggro and draw a mimic over.
It's not fair but the fun comes from the challenge. And there ain't nothing better than those times when killing them one by one goes perfect until the host is left quaking in his boots.
TL:DR
get gud
>>334996239
Invade in the crab swamp. Watchdogs will cover your ass against scrub groups.
>>334997582
Its an instant parry basically. You don't need to be expecting a parry you can just throw it out when you see an attack coming at you.
>use red soapstone
>get summoned by a host with 2 phantoms
>they try to gank me
Not sure what I was expecting
>>334996725
If you want to do a Jonathan build, go Lightning Caestus, but also grab a straight sword and put Hollow enchant on it to represent the dumb P/Luck sword he gets. You'll have a really rough time if you go with just fist weapons.
>>334996492
>git gud
>hit once insta stuns
>sun acrubs and their pimp all pin me against a wall whacking my ass stun locking me
Dont even get me started on katana sprinters.
>>334996239
Dark Souls PvP has always been shit, it's they're way of telling you to fuck off.
>>334997701
any armors that even somewhat fit?
>>334997221
This. Invasions were never meant as a free ticket to be a dick, especially since the invader never had anything to lose while the invadeé had everything to lose. Now they simply made it so that the very best of the best can make it as invaders and all the scrubs are left whining on 4chan about people using summons. It's fucking hilarious.
>>334997757
You mean fuck off and stop playing the game? PvP is what keeps us coming back otherwise there isn't much reason to play the game after you beat it once.
>>334996863
>greatswords do the same if not less damage than a straight sword while using more stamina per swing
fuck From.
>>334997843
>invader has nothing to lose
Invader loses all his souls on death. Is this your first souls game?
Isn't there some kind of coliseum like arena where we can have fair 1v1 duels like they did in Dark Souls 2? I'm sick of tired of being 1v4'd and they all emote spamming "point down" at me like the pro players that they are.
Anyone got any ideas for the armour pieces for a Simon Belmont cosplay character?
>>334998004
and then walked 2 feet in their world and reclaimed them, you fucking retard
>>334996239
>Those people that think Souls games are fighting games and that the shit net code is combat depth
>>334998059
Go to the courtyard just after the Pontif bonfire and you'll find a crazy amount of red signs
>>334996239
Purple invading is the most fun I've had in PvP.
Seriously fucking chaotic. Choosing when to betray fellow invaders, choosing when to betray the host who thinks you've switched sides. It's so fun. And you only have to kill phantoms which is great because killing the host is fucking hard when theres 2 phantoms on you.
>>334998004
>losing souls
>invading with souls in the first place
oh nooo. It's literally nothing. Progression and time is more precious than any amount of souls.
>>334998105
>2 feet in their world
Wrong again faggot, the souls are located where they died in the hosts world.
>>334998004
Why the fuck would you invade without spending any souls you want to first?
>>334998182
sadly you won't be able to get summoned after a while. People will just figure "oh he's going to betray me eventually I'll summon someone else"
>The year is current year
>Invasions are always 3v1 or 4v1
>Invaders cry about game being unbalanced while babies laugh when having their hands held by sunbros
>The year is future
>Invaders who couldn't deal with the impossible balancing quit long ago
>But some invaders kept on going, percevering and becoming unmatched in PvP skills
>One of these godlike reds invade every single embered persons world
>They leave death in their wake.
>From finally fixes the balancing issue
>Nobody uses ember anymore because of the insurmountable skill the Red's posses.
This is what I predict for Dark Souls 3 in the future.
>It's an 'Invaders got butthurt and memed on episode'
ITT: Co-op scrubs and invaders crying over their first Souls game
You newfags need to go and stay go.
>>334996239
fun to invade as sorcerer because CSS does like 1.3k and SS can go even higher so they always 1 shot phantoms but if you care about le fight clubs then they suck
How do I set up a proper fight club? I'm SL 110 and there's plenty of soapstone on the ground next to Pontiff. I'm able to summon two phantoms with the finger but no more than that. I hate having to make my fight club champion wait 30 seconds for the next opponent to show up, is there no way to summon more phantoms, or make myself an easier target for invasions?
>>334996239
>baby can't fight 3 guys at the same time
git fucking gud, fag, you're supposed to bait them into getting cucked by the enemies, it's way funner than just fighting them head to head.
>>334998343
Because literally nobody else other than reds PvP and get good at it.
>>334998383
wurst boat
>>334997874
Keeps you coming back maybe. I just like doing challenge runs.
>>334998343
Time is the Patch anon. Every souls game starts off with co-op babies left and right. When everybody has played the traffic will die down so there are less signs to suckle off of. Its just embarassing when one red can keep 3 people scared enough away.
>>334998562
She's not my favorite because that'sTenryuubut she's nowhere near worst boat
>>334998547
>have 2 to 3 other people holding you hand
>still thinks he can git gud at pvp
Take the training wheels off then come and say that.
>>334998473
Bow spam and giant seed would like a word with you
>>334997094
It only stuns for two hits, but people spam it and the window to roll away is really short, and you need to roll directly away from them because of its retarded rectangular hitbox. A weapon with hyper armor or just spacing well destroys spammers. However, an estoc with a great shield is nigh unbeatable with doing it yourself because of how good great shields are in this game.
>>334998547
People are always complain about reds being scum, but they usually have more honor than any other person playing.
You've just invaded a world as a dark spirit.
The host has 3 phantoms.
They have cleared every single enemy in the area so you have no where to run back to.
They have not used a finger, so don't expect backup any time soon.
At least half of his phantoms are using either a Dark Sword or an Estoc and are emote spamming in your general direction.
What do you do?
>>334996239
>Invade
>Find spot off the track and sleep emote
>Everyone charges me anyway
Aight
>>334998383
>>334998562
>>334998654
>KancerColon posters
>>334998817
Black seperation crystal out immediately.
>>334998817
Find a creative way to be a dick.
If I wanted a fair fight I'd use a soapstone, I'd only bother using an orb to do something silly.
>>334998817
>3 phantoms
>havent used the finger
U wot m8
>>334998945
>using the "I want to be banned from online play item"
Why?
>>334998786
I guess in general but I always go maximum nigger while invading, my goal isn't souls, it's frustration.
>>334998817
Chameleon somewhere, go watch TV.
>>334998945
>Le cowardly punishment crystal
>>334998817
>call over
>make them chase me for 20 minutes
>right before they kill me stone out
>>334998817
Black crystal. A tour of duty as a Watchdog has drilled into me that there are retards and non-ganksquads out there. There is no point in dealing with these fags.
>>334998817
I have many firebombs, so Ill make them waste estus before the boss fight.
Or Ill black crystal the fuck outta that gank infested area
>>334997464
Even at 3v1 being invaded builds tension because you have one more factor to ponder when exploring.
Usually I die when invading but yesterday I kited both phantoms and they were so sure to rape me that they didn't pay much attention. I turned around, put on some fast resin and killed them in two R1 swing of my refined murakumo. The host was caught off guard picking up an item and I killed him in 3 secs.
>>334998945
enjoy your ban
>>334999114
>black crystal
you know using that can get you soft banned m8
it even warns you on description
>>334998998
There are no consequences to using the crystal. It's there for a reason.
>>334999023
>cowardly
>as he has 2-3 phantoms
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyy famalama ding dong
I haven't played DaS3 and I want to go into it blind, except I have three simple questions:
Are there any good fist weapons besides Caestus, how soon can I get them, and what stat do they scale from?
>Dickwraithing Irithyll
>Get into some world with the host just running around summoning as many people as he can, mad spirits, dark spirits, co-op phantoms, everyone running around the dungeon killing each other
Some of you are silly bastards
>>334998998
>>334999023
No punishment for using it as of yet
>>334998817
Run somewhere that has enemies then laugh as the host is such a fucking scrub that not even 3 summons can protect him from his retardation when it comes to fighting mobs.This has happened on multiple occasions and they were almost always Dark Sword users
>>334996982
Not even necessary. You get summoned pretty much everywhere for red soap sign.
>>334999187
>>334999214
Using it gives you "penalty points" and if you get too many you are banned from online play and have to use your one way of white cockring to be unbanned.
>>334999223
did you miss the part where i said that there are no enemies to run back to?
>>334999010
This, alternatively hide in a place with the obscuring ring where they will never ever go.
They wanna dick with you? Dick with them back.
>>334999184
>It even warns you on the description
Every Black Crystal description has said that. It's just a way of saying "don't be a dick and boot your phantoms willy-nilly."
>>334999184
>use it as regular phantom as host starts fighting strong enemy or goes into boss room
>wow what a dick
Thats what it means by relations you ganking scrub.
>>334999010
>>334999285
>host and phantoms are obviously just sitting around killing invaders as they spawn in having fun
"surely if i sit and wait this will be a nuisance to them! well i guess i just wont play the game for a little while as i wait for their fun to run out"
>>334999347
Black crystal overusage actually does ban you from online shit. It's been proven.
>>334997627
This is pretty decent advice, an invader did this to me and although I repeatedly stomped him and exhausted his Estus I could not put down the dog and he eventually got me.
>Get invaded twice while sunbroing people
>Both of them have Unlimited Heath and Stam
So much assblast
>>334996725
Demon Fists are barely passable
super shit range and not good damage but that's to be expected i guess
killed a couple of red invaders with them this playthrough
>>334999208
That sounds fantastic
I made a second character to try mound makers early, and my third invasion was a fight club where the host just kept summoning people.
I was explaining invasions it to some friends when we were taking a break from exam studying and they got really excited when they saw it happen.
>>334999274
>>334999409
Any source on that or just your ass?
>>334999409
Gonna need that video proof m80
>>334999409
literally prove it
>>334999208
>Every PvP thread see "There's no reason to summon Mad Phantoms"
>"Why would a host ever summon a mad phantom"
>"There needs to be some incentive to summon mad phantoms"
>Put down a mad phantom sign
>Always get immediately summoned
>>334999409
>you can be softbanned for an item they give you
Bullshit, Ive used that thing countless times in other souls games and in this one to rest at bonfires and have yet to be banned.
>>334999274
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168566-dark-souls-iii/73616376?page=10
That has been confirmed false. Check the wiki. White circlet is for DCing by turning system off or disconnecting internet.
>>334999473
>>334999484
>>334999517
go invade and instant black crystal everytime
test it yourself if you're so sure :^)))
>>334999640
Or the game crashing due one of the million bugs From can't be assed to fix.
When I read these threads, I can just smell the spaghettios and hear the REEEEEs.
>>334999609
>Summon every mad phantom I see.
>Fun as fuck everytime. Either it's just PVP, some weird PVE, or it turns into a guessing game of when he'll try to kill me.
Mad phantoms are literally the best.
>>334999609
Because the host is panicking and trying every summon sign he can get. Or its a new player who doesnt know anything about purps.
>>334999609
>Invade as grape
>Get to host, sees me and waves.
>He summons another grape
>He gets back and sits down
>Watches as me and other grape battle to the death for his amusement.
Something about this is so satisfying.
>>334999729
>purple
>traitor
>purple traitor
>perpetrator
DEEPEST LORE
>>334998817
>3 phantoms
>they have not used a finger
>>334999609
The only reason anyone ever summons mad phantoms is for fight clubs or HONORABRUH DUERS, which is lame. The whole point of the covenant is to be a neutral party, able to attack mobs, hosts and phantoms alike, but all you ever get to do is fight players. Purples are just special snowflake reds, literally Wasted Potential: The Covenant.
>>334999675
So youre bullshitting, good to know.
>>334999208
Someone was doing that near the tree boss
>Get summoned as sunbro
>Total clusterfuck of players fighting each other
>Host just running around the zone in circles and hitting every sign
>Invade as a sunbro 30 minutes later
>It's the same guy
>He's still at it
What a wild ride
>>334998654
If its not a glorious abyssal its shit.
>>334999830
>wasted potential
Nah its only wasted because you can be locked out of it really early. I tried it and its fun watching other phantoms be uneasy around me.
>>334999609
>Forrest Guardian 2.0
>Hosts keep summoning Mad Phantoms
>Usually just assist me with the kills even when I'm accidentally damaging them with the Host
Invasion groups are the most chill niggas, co-op and invading has been nothing but fun for me.
>>334997917
Don't forget they're slower too.
>Going through the catacombs alone with my Wolf Knight's Greatsword
>Have a fun time with an invader 1v1
>Ends up falling to his knees accepting death after my high damage against his tiny longsword
Always nice when players aren't that serious
>>334999830
Well, they needed an extra covenant to deflect the fact that there's two covenants that do the same thing
I'm having the time of my life as an Aldrich Faithful. Constant invasions. I have over 90 kills in the last two days.
I actually didnt want to progress thru more of the game because i didnt want to level out of this sweet spot. Lvl 60 and +6 weapon. Created a new character that I'm going to devote to pvping with these specs.
>>334997917
You get a massive range bonus bitch, it's theoretically far more substantial damage. If you can hit 5-6 enemies where I can hit 2-3 enemies for 200 DMG each you're doing 1000-1200 where I'm stuck with 400-600 damage. Secondarily you pose more poise risk and more stam. per block, while effectively increasing your distance from targets. quit bitching.
>>334999987
Abyssals are the best but they are literally the never evers.
i love being a grape. The constant tension from the host is great. Clear out a mob together and then he panics and runs into another mob. Sometimes I will kill his other phantom and then help just to fuck with him. It is a fun ass covenant.
>>335000127
It would be if poise werent a shit in this game. The tradeoff is stupid because the faster weapon always wins.
>>335000184
This is why the drankbros are so great.
They're the only ones I coop with now when I see them because I can't trust them. Are they really gonna help? Are they gonna backstab me?
It's a mind game
>>335000127
>1000-1200 damage
>with a greatsword in das3
You havent played das3 yet have you
just fucking surprise them
>>335000127
>you pose more poise risk
Tell me more about how greatswords easily stunlock you and your dark sword R1 spam somehow doesn't
>>334998178
>first time after pontiff
>just trying to mind my own business and play the game alone
>invaded right out the door
>invaded as soon as he dies
>invaded before I even reach the first stairs
>invaded twice while trying to clear the giant courtyard
>invaded while killing ghosts
>invaded three fucking times while on the upper platform killing priests
>no invasions on the knights whatsoever
>invaded the moment I kill the last knight
Fuck that area, I did more pvp just trying to cross the fucking street there than I did the rest of that playthrough.
>>334999609
Even invading as a purp is fun. Being able to kill any phantom is so cool.
I wish they made a covenant devoted to killing phantoms that invaded other worlds with invading phantoms. Sort of like what Darkmoon should have been.
>>334996239
Invis ring, gurella warfare. Ez. They also get really frustrated so that's a plus
>>334996778
>I'll just have to hope there are people that will even want to duel
This seems to be the most popular duel area. If you want to have a 1v1, you have to make it here.
>>334998817
Obscuring Ring, drop attack from a ledge when the host passes.
>>335000343
The sad part is I did the same thing after pontiff. Same scenario as you, that place is a clusterfuck of invaders.
>>334997221
>>334997843
You have a single fact to back that up?
>>335000315
what the fuck was the host doing
>haven't got a single piece of hatemail despite the amount of hosts plus summons I've destroyed
>>335000724
casting spells
>>334998383
Did someone say memes?
>Week after launch
>Game still won't calibrate
>DL fix doesn't work anymore
What an absolute shit release
How grapes should have been
>Invading phantoms
>Can only invade worlds where there's PVP factions engages with the host. IE: Darkwraiths, Aldrichs, Farron, etc
>Purple is told to either kill the invaders or kill the host, is an ally to whichever faction he isn't suppose to kill
>Host and invaders don't know grapes faction
y/n?
>>335000807
This. Why won't they hate me?
I don't wanna link the first flame. Where's the other ending?
invading is shit because you cant even use embers to heal yourself like humanity
>>334996239
Yes. Yes anon, they did.
>>335000949
>Wild card DaS1 darkmoons
I can dig it.
>>334996239
>Invading just ain't worth it.
?
you chucklefucks realize that there was 90k peak players on a weekday? a lot of people are going to be co-oping still just give it a month if you want to invade 1v1
>>335000949
I'd join it
>>335000949
that's already how it works, with the only difference is that the grape gets to pick which faction to join and he can also switch factions at will
I've frequently charged off and killed a red phantom, but I've also helped them. It's all just random, it's perfect.
>>335000997
endings*
One of them requires you to get the fire keeper eyes and give them to the fire keeper.
The other requires you to go full hollow and marry Anri.
You've probably already fucked up the latter, just go look them up properly
>>334996916
>r1 spammed to death by 3 phantoms and a host
you sure livened things up there bud
Im level 120 and when im running solo even using dried fingers i dont even get invaded and red orb takes forever
I shouldnt have fallen for the lvl 120 meta meme
>>335000949
I mean, that'd be a cool faction too, but as it is you already can ally yourself with host or invader, and they already don't know what side you'll be on. The way it is now is even more chaotic; you can switch sides at any given opportunity, or try to take everyone on.
>>334996239
Try invading as asunbro
>>334999609
I always help hosts as a mad phantom.
>clear areas with them
>defend them from other grapes
>defend them from reds
>befriend them by killing mobs and dropping items and using them to farm blues who expect a 2v1 gangbang on me
>killing their yellow buttbuddies when they charge me for daring to not be gold
>using consumables to help them beat monsters and phantoms
>conveniently missing with talismans to gimp their estus when they're low
>leading them to items
>kicking them off cliffs with items on them
>showing them illusion walls
>showing them fake illusion walls and backstabbing them then dumping rope bombs all around us
>having gesture parties
>introducing them to crabs
>popping huge pyro aoes in tiny tunnels with no exit
>watching them run out of estus then popping tree branch and waiting for reds to feed on their emaciated corpse while my presence locks them out of bonfires and teleporting
>other fun activities
Purple is really the best for making new friends.
>>335000949
Grape invading is fun because instead of the host being your target, you have a quota to fill. It's not a massive difference, but it's enough to be fresh and fun.
You know what though, some people can be pretty cool. I was on the bridge in Farron and I was invading this guy with his two friends. Host stood back and I had 1 on 1s with his two friends over and over. I was on a win streak and every time he'd summon them back and they'd wait their turn. At the end one of them gave me applause. Felt good.
>>335000949
>no mad spirit invasion notification
>>335000380
every time i enter the area the game like wants to summon fucking dickwad aldritch members and locks me out of all summon signs and bonfires, even though no one shows up
>summoned as a grape
>red invades
>kill red
>fight through to ballsac tree with host
>summons a sunbro
>enters room right as I backstab and kill sunbro
>fights boss alone
>dies
I got a nice message about ten minutes later. He was pissed and I had a good laugh. This is the best covenant ever.
>>335001235
60-100 is safer for the time being.
>>334997576
Dude you sound edgy as all hell. Whenever I invade those people and kill them I feel exhausted more so than accomplished. I feel like I just kicked a puppy. A really, really annoying puppy.
>>334997843
>free ticket to be a dick
>WAHHHH, people shouldn't be allowed to use a game mechanic because it's inconveniant to me and mean =(
>I'll just fucking abuse them and waste their time, that'll show them for trying to have fun!
>>335000312
Five times 200 is 1000, six times 200 is 1200. If you funnel and aggro enemies properly you can get hits like that, period. Any longsword in the game only has range for the two or three most immediate enemies in front, period. A greatsword has greater potential damage, period. A greatsword gives you a range advantage, period. A greatsword knocks the shit out of shielded users. Level your fucking endurance and quit griping like a bitch for your shitty life decisions.
There are two kinds of Dark Souls players:
>People who invade
>People who summon
These are also called gud and bad respectively.
There are no exceptions
invading niggers lol
http://nes.sne.jp
>>334997742
Why do all great swords swing so slow and do the exact same damage as any upgraded straight sword? Why??? What was from THINKING?!or were they thinking at all
>>335001101
there's no rewards for invading
>tfw you had so much hope for this game
>tfw they butcher it to pieces
Why did they do it? Just why? Why did they market this pos as "hard" when you can summon 3 phantoms throughout the whole game and not have to do shit??
>>334999947
lewd
>>335001642
>3 phantoms
*4 phantoms
>>335001629
My "can move freely in water" ring and Wolf sword says otherwise.
But especially the satisfaction of constantly killing hosts with a bunch of phantoms because most people who summon suck ass is the biggest reward.
>>335000343
>>335000490
The reason that area is a PvP clustefuck is because it's one of the few places where the host won't have 2 phantom goons helping them, and everyone knows it.
That's in addition to the Aldrich Faithful and Farron Watchdog covenants actually working decent in that it actually summons you to random worlds instead of literally having a bias to put you up against three fucking guys.
I invade there all the time, that's where I grind out all my covenant tokens before I really plunge into the true endgame.
Just try to enjoy the action.
>>335001629
Bullshit, you get covenant rewards for whatever you're a part of
>implying it's not the best way to farmsunlight medals
Anyone found a viable STR build yet for PvP?
Tried out havel monster and it's fucking trash now.
>>335001508
>playing dark souls to have fun
No wonder this franchise went to shit
>>335001779
wot?
wolf ring lets you walk through the swamp unhindered?
are you sure?
>>335001642
Then don't summon? Why do you give a shit about how other people play the game?
>>334996239
pvp is for faggots.
>>334998817
Invisible ring and snipe them from afar. Run away over and over again while other invaders whittle down their estus over the course of an hour.
Sorry if I'm going to blog but I can't help myself
>get to Not Yharnam for the first time
>get about 10 enemies in before I get invaded
>invader wearing CANT SEE ME ring so i dont know where he is exactly, just the dust cloud is hanging near double enemies so I know hes being a bitch
>decide fuck it, and go back to the bonfire
>consider summoning help, but dont, because I don't want to be "that guy"
>decide fuck, if I'm going to pvp, I'll do it on my terms
>summon a red phantom
>nice guy, bows at me, then we fight 1v1
>after a while, other invader literally goes far enough further in to see the bonfire from the other stair down and starts firing arrows at the two of us
>kill the first guy I summoned
>summon another one
>third guy has some lol no damage double poison sword build for some reason
>original invader finally runs back to the bonfire
>1v2
>figure, no way I'm going to win this
>poison guy is pretty shitty, eat him alive
>original guy whips out spin to win blade of no damage
>I fucking 3 shot him with my greatsword
I feel good. I know I shouldn't be happy about killing shitty players, but I'm a shitty player so I do. God I love using big fucking swords in pvp. Too bad they never work against good players.
Sorry to blog.
>>335001290
>killing their yellow buttbuddies when they charge me for daring to not be gold
Oh man, that's always good.
>Co-oping
>Host summoned a grape for some reason
>Whatever. He was pretty cool and helped kill an invader
>Host goes maximum overcasual at the boss and uses the dried to get another phantom
>Grape is still just standing around
>Sunbro summons in
>Immediately charges the grape
>Gets parried on the first hit and hornet riposted
>Dies instantly
>Grape gets his quota and vanishes
>Mfw
I dislike those grapes that put down summon signs and then just immediately gun for the host when summon. It's disappointing and a waste of the covenant.
>>335001854
Wait no, got that wrong, my bad.
>>335001642
But you could steamroll any Souls game with a full team of phantoms.
>>334996239
i was really annoyed at first, it happens everytime. but now i go in with the mindset lulwho cares and i have fun
>>335001779
This, but you can only get so many shitters.
Every once in awhile you'll come across 3 dickheads just standing there waiting for you without moving an inch for 5 minutes until you finally get bored and try to poke at them only to be brutally gangraped.
>Point down
>Jump for joy
>Invade in Irythill right outside Pontiff bonfire
>Host has 2 phantoms
>2 Aldritch phantoms already fighting
>We kill host's 2 phantoms
>Host runs around desperately summoning phantoms
>"Summoning failed" shows up at least 5 times
>One Aldritch phantom dies from fall
>Host runs around for 15 minutes with us whittling down his health
>Host finally runs out of estus
>Aldritch phantom lands a blow
>Host has sliver of health left
>Take out bow and shoot host
>Host finally dies
Fuck man, why were you so desperate to stay alive when the bonfire was 30 seconds away? That said, that was my most satisfying kill yet.
>>335001779
>"can move freely in water"
Now I want to invade. I've never summoned yet but I have put down my sign countless times to help scrubs. People actually summoned me just to help them kill the black knight in Crucifixion Woods and quickly sent me home.
>>334997585
I'm trying, I wanted to give up tonight but your words have moved me.
>>334997221
>Yes they never wanted you tryhards
got invaded by a guy called "try hard". i kek'd
>>334997680
USE YOUR RED SIGN IF YOU WANT DUELS BRO!
Don't know what you expected either tbqh
WHAT SHIULD I DO BEDORE I START NG+
>>335001896
I don't udnerstand how people keep shitting on the greatswords in this game
>WHAM
>WHAM
>roll
>520 damage at +4
That's at level 30
That's in addition to the fact that you win all trade when they feebly poke at you with their twigs.
>>335002028
Just crystal out.
it takes literally less than a minute to crystal out and invade another world. There is no reason to entertain gank squads.
This is why the system is much better than DaS2. Unlimited invasion means that when the game fucks with out you you aren't punished and SM won't fuck you in the ass eventually.
>>335001789
Whoever decided that making fight clubs in the Faithful invasion area was a good idea needs to be shot.
Fight club hosts are constantly drawing people into their world with their dried finger. Doing anything besides black crystaling out and hoping you don't get sucked back into their world means breaking the fight club and fighting 6v1.
>>335002220
sure thing champ, just gonna stunlock you to death with my estoc+0 during your 5 second swing
>Get invaded in Lothric Castle
>Have no phantoms with me, so that's weird
>Red stands on top of the stairs before the prince boss, some FUGS memer
>Had died to the knights there before, around 160k souls in my bloodstain
>He just comes down and we duke it out 1v1
>Clutch hard enough to beat him, then trash the knights with the adrenaline rush
It was a really cool fight, whoever it was.
>>335000907
playing on PS4 here, everything's been working fine for me.
>>334998319
He's talking about invading as a purple you retard
>>335001101
Why do you keep posting this like 2 dozen wins (half of which aren't even invasions) is impressive?
>>335002220
Well, it just depends. Some of them are so slow that the aggressive and suspiciously high poise regular enemies are righteous pains, not to mention bosses, even if their damage is good per hit.
In PVP good players will never get hit by a slow weapon. Fast is almost always better. Only thing better than fast is "unpredictable", which is rare.
Though some of the larger weapons are actually pretty fast on their swings, which can be nice. Fume used to be freakishly fast for the damage it did, before the nerf, and it still is surprisingly fast for such a fuck huge weapon.
>>335002232
>Whoever decided that making fight clubs in the Faithful invasion area was a good idea needs to be shot.
This, holy shit.
It was the fucking best area for invading and now I keep getting fight clubs.
I love fight clubs but fuck off to some uninteresting area, not at the fucking archers-of-fun area.
>>335000949
The problem with grapes is that everyone knows how they works. They know that graps only get their loot by killing whoever's in the world; either the host or his phantoms are going down, so why would they take the risk? Host and phantoms always attack grapes on sight, it happens every time I'm summoned.
Fuckers weren't prepared for an hour long trek through the swamp though.
>>335002437
It's not meant to be impressive, it's meant to prove "invasion is literally impossible and not worth doing" faggots wrong.
90% of that is invasions.
>>335002195
kill everyone?
>>335001263
Except hosts and sunbros relentlessly charge you down regardless of your intentions, so you're forced to fight the host every single time.
I'm trying to collect some shackles and just help some people out, not outright invade, but I can't, because dickass hosts who can't understand emotes for shit.
>>335002232
>>335002464
>Invading as a Sunbro
>Get in a see a red fighting a yellow while the host stands above them
>Just go straight for the host like I usually do
>Fighting for a bit
>Back off and take a sippy
>Everyone, including the other red phantom, immediately stop fighting and chase me down
>Run out of stamina and get chopped down by 3 people
>>334998998
Why are you this stupid? There's never been a consequence for using the bsc
>>334999274
I've used 100s of times because of glitched fog walls. Nothing happened to me.
>>335002195
Kill most NPC's, get their ashes, and buy their sets.
>>335002223
If I use the crystal all the time it'll soft ban me from online play, it's horseshit.
I invade all the fucking time, if I crystal every time I see a gank-squad it'll stack up in no time.
>>335002341
Let me describe what will happen. You will jog up to me, and get one stab off into my hyper armor as I smash my greatsword into you, you will be stunned long enough for me to slam my greatsword into you again.
Half your health will already be gone, but you'll think it's time for a le epic chain attack, so you roll behind me.
I swing behind me because I know that's where your dumb ass will go, and you get hit again before sperg-rolling away twice and chugging estus.
This happens about 5 times and then you die.
Like pottery.
I've never lost to an estoc nigger. (Unless he gets scared and runs to the other side of the map to summon two buddies obviously.)
>point down
>jump for joy
Good for you, champ.
>>335002447
This is a bit of a problem, that's why timing with the greatsword is all important.
If they have their shield up, you can feel free to just bash through it, if they attack you just soak it up and trade.
Only thing I have consistent trouble with is guys with greatshields and spears because I can't get through their guard while they whittle me down.
But that should go for every weapon type, not just greatswords.
>highwall has low level gank squads with endgame armor
What the fuck, guys
>>335001642
what. I can only summon one at a time
>trying to get shekels
>finally invaded by red spirit
>red spirit wrecked by me and host's phantom
>host kills me
i thought being a grape would be fun. this is not fun
Invading for Watchdogs is fun as fuck, I love gutting hosts alongside mobs, especially if they get invaded by that npc too kek
>>335002794
autism
>all these people who never played DkS 1
>all these people who weren't forest hunters
>all these people who never learned to properly beat gank parties
Why jump in on the 5th souls game if you've never played one before?
>>335002220
what greatswords are actually good in this game
>>335002940
Sorry I hurt your feelings, friendo.
>>335002810
lmao
>>334998436
i just love the fact you can snipe with spells
>NG+
>People still summoning to max capacity for bosses
>>335002794
I dunno what game you're playing but I've never, never seen a greatsword user do anything other than die pathetically.
>>335002960
I've played every souls game, just didn't care for PvP. Combat was too slow and tedious for my taste, DaS3 changed that, I'll happily take my lumps while I get this shit down.
>>335002794
>If I use the crystal all the time it'll soft ban me from online play, it's horseshit.
What. Where the fuck did you get that from? Softbans are for actual disconnects.
>>335003000
Great swords or ultra great swords? Either way the answer is the great sword
>>335002794
>If I use the crystal all the time it'll soft ban me from online play, it's horseshit.
More people have been doing tests now and it seems that whoever originally "discovered" this was either lying or somehow made a mistake.
>>335003186
ultra greatsword, the real mans weapons
>>335002753
I respecced into a magic build just so I could snipe Anor Londo fight club hosts with soul stream.
Everyone always sits on that ledge watching the fight, so you can vaporize 3/4ths of the people in the world all at once, usually with the host as well.
>>335002605
>>335002541
I dunno, I tend to get a mixed bag.
Kill a few enemies and the host tends to trust me. Sometimes a Red will do some gestures to imply we should team up. Hell, even when I accidentally hit people they're pretty understanding as long as I've been fighting alongside them for a while. You get people who just immediately go for the kill, but that's usually not the case for me.
>Get summoned for Consumed King
>Host's world is pure chaos
>Hes got two other phantoms
>Somehow he got down to the fog door without killing the Super Cathedral Knights and they're pissed
>An invader is coming down right behind them
>The two other phantoms start fighting off the knights, I try to keep the invader out until they're done
>I push the invader back up the stairs
>The two huge knights with ultra mega great swords turn that tiny room into the inside of a blender
>Both phantoms are killed in seconds but manage to take one knight with them
>Dive in to finish off the last knight before it slaughters the host
>Nearly kill it before the invader comes in and butchers me alongside the knight
>Fade out on the invader circling the host for the kill
That invader won fucking big that day.
>>334998213
Not in the old games
>>335003170
It's been circling around for a while now, someone apparently did some tests and posted it on the wiki, but now more tests by other people have concluded that it's the same as ever
>>335003152
Anon, if you weren't one of the ones bitching about gank squads, guess who that post wasn't directed at?
>>335003170
>>335003203
I've been told that repeatedly since I started getting on these threads, I guess I've just been wasting my time because some asshat lied to me.
Thanks for setting me straight, I'm pissed off I've been tolerating so much bullshit.
>>335002753
>invade
>it's yet another fight club
>run in and hornet ring backstab host because he's not paying attention
>a million angry phantoms charge at me squatting over his corpse as it fades away
>>335002810
Password matchmaking and people setting up in-game trades on reddit :^)
>>335003239
Greatsword is the real answer.The one you get from pontiff's souls is fun too
>>335003315
I'm tired.
>>335002960
>Why start something in-progress that you weren't around from the beginning for
>No audience ever grows
>No content is ever produced
>Media dies
>The internet dies
>Entertainment dies
>All because of one retard shitposting
>This could have been preventing if this shitlord ever tried to think for a change
>Why is Dark Souls so popular now
>Dudebros are cucking me in video games now
>What happened to muh sekrit club
>From are hack developers
>No one has ever heard of this VN
>It's now my favorite game
>can only get pulled into games being Aldrich faithful
I'm sick of this cathedral
>>335003509
I am too anon. Let's go to sleep aye?
>>335003000
Astora's greatsword is the best Ultra Greatsword, no contest.
Black Knight Greatsword is the best regular greatsword by far. It's also nearly as fast as straight sword. Better than the longswords most of these kiddies use every day of the week, just takes more stat investment to use.
>>335003565Not before a snack, I get really hungry when I drink. You?
It is the first week of the game. Of course everybody will have at least two summon. Chill down.
>>335003270
I wonder if there's a difference in soul level and where you're invading them. I'm in early game.
>>335003548
Crossed?
>>335003548
You'd have a point if DaS1 wasn't super accessible to play right there on Steam. You'd have a point if you were talking about DeS.
>>335003548
I've never seen a person be thus mad being told to git gud. Seriously if I learned to fight 3 ninja flipping havelynn's so can you.
Either way you need to git gud or git over it
>>334998406
Exactly, they are crying about minor shit. When it's the shitty invasion rules and lack of build variety that they should be crying about.
>>334996239
GIT GUD
>>335003652You lose your appetite working in a kitchen all night. I got a nice drink of mango juice. Es gewd
>>335003684
It's not about the summons. It's about how frustrating and unfun it is to fight them in this game.
This is coming from someone who liked fighting gank squads. It's not impossible to win, but you have to tryhard waaaaay harder then earlier games, which saps the fun out of it.
can you invade aldrich faithful as a watchdog through the covenant? or does the auto summon only work in farron woods. i know that watchdogs get an invasion priority when Faithful are around
i stand around for a half an hour waiting to get summoned by covenant but it never happens in the woods
I fucking love mad phantoms. Summoning them is always a bag of fun, especially in mass.
I've summoned multiple mad phantoms at once just to see if they turn on eachother or not. It's great.
