Okay, I'm done.
Fuck this game, this is just bullshit.
>>334988443
Just use cheats if you dont want to git gud.
>>334988443
See yah!
Learn 2 parry
>>334988443You can parry him
>>334988443
Just summon people if you suck that much.
Got him in 5 tries, no summons.
Summon NPC outside his door.
Stab him in the butt
>>334989103
>summon an NPC
no, people who use allies through all the bosses their first time miss the entire point of the game
>>334989184
>no, people who use allies through all the bosses their first time miss the entire point of the game
Then why is their a co op option on the first play through you fucking faggot? Some people play this game solely for the co op
>>334989440
Because it makes every single boss piss easy
You can beat any enemy in the game just by swarming them with perma stunlock
>>334989583
>no, people who use allies through all the bosses their first time miss the entire point of the game
7/10 summons are fucking retarded and normally just die and make it harder.
im shit at this game. If I can do it, so u can you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_FVYqenO3E
You should be able to survive phase one.
Phase 2 hint: The ghost is like a telegraph. Everything the ghost does, the Pontiff will do a second later. Use that knowledge to time your attacks and dodges. He's much less aggressive in the second phase. If you manage to kill the ghost you've pretty much won the fight unless you're a scrub.
>fw i had to summon the npc for this
couldn't get off my pyromancy otherwise
>>334988443
another casual filteredJUST SUMMON FUCKING PHANTOMS IF YOU CANT BEAT SOMETHING JESUS YOU WHINY FUCKS AND DON'T BITCH IF YOU'RE A PIRATEFAG
Actually just beat him, just wail into his clone while he's summoning it, and you'll deal massive damage to both. The clone preempts his attacks, finish it off, then once he summons it again just kill him.
>>334988443
>From his chamber in Shit City
>Pontiff Sulyvahn: MMMM YEAH OOOH BABBY *masturbates to invisible hitboxes and untelegraphed moves* GOD I'M SO FUCKING HARD RIGHT NOW *reaches into asshole like he reaches across the room* MMM YEAH LET ME MASTURBATE WITH THIS SHIT AND EAT IT MMM YEAH TASTY CHOCOLATE
>Ashen one enters
>OOOOH DADDY WAS NEEDING SOME CUMMIES *leaps across the room and swings his sword in 3 nanoseconds instantly killing him* YEAH YOU FUCKED IN THE WRONG NEGHBORHOOD MMMM LET ME SNIFF YOUR HOLLOWED DICK MMMMMM YEAH BABY
IT'S NOT FAIR. WHY IS THIS FUCKER LITERALLY THE HARDEST THING IN THE GAME. I'M LEVEL 70 AND THIS GUY JUST FUCKING ONE SHOTS ME AND IT'S LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DODGE HIS MOVES BECAUSE OF HIS BULLSHIT LAGGING HITBOXES. HOLY SHIT IS THERE SOME WAY TO CHEESE THIS ASSMUNCH?
>>334989103
Isn't that the one where Anri summons you for the boss battle in her/his world?
>>334989918
What this guy said.
To add: After you kill the ghost, keep the pressure on the Pontiff. If you let him breathe he'll back away and summon the ghost again immediately, which would be bad.
Ideally, after killing the ghost, you'll want to aggressively attack the Pontiff until he has about 20% HP left. Then you can back away and let him start his summoning again, which will give you plenty of time to finish him off.
>>334988443
You can kill the phantom he summons. As soon as I realised this the boss became pretty easy.
Just circle him until he does his dash stab thingy and then walk towards him and dodge that single hit he sometimes does after using the dash attack. Hit him 2 or 3 times and repeat. Second phase is a little harder, but you should try to kill the phantom and then do the same thing as in phase 1. Sometimes after his long combo you can sneak a hit in aswell, if you managed to dodge all of the attacks by rolling instead of just keeping your distance. But the safest way is to just way for his stab dash thing and then go for it.
>>334989184
>no, people who use allies through all the bosses their first time miss the entire point of the game.
>*tips fedora*
>>334990492
The few attacks he does that you have to dodge by rolling even if you kept your distance are telegraphed pretty well too. Sometimes it's still hard to dodge them, because the phantom does them aswell and you can't really see it because it's behind him, but if you keep your distance you should still have a fair chance at dodging them.
>>334988443
What are you, a pussy?
Anyone unwilling to admit that the game has a lot more bullshit in the last to appeal to the "git gud" meme are delusional faggots.
The game is harder but not in the fun challenge way of the last but the here's some bullshit see how long your patience is for things.
>>334991091
Dunno man, I don't think it's worse than the first 2 games in that regard. Bed of Chaos exists.
>>334990324
I was level 78 when I beat the last boss.
Get better at rolling.
>>334988443git gud
>>334991091
DS2 was harder than DS3 for the first half, besides the last few bosses where DS3 shines.
It's only harder if you haven't played BB and aren't use to enemies comboing your shit in.
>>334989184
He is having a hard time.
Beat him doing a manrun with a great machete and no shield.
>>334991091
Not really. Pontiff destroyed my ass a lot but I felt so fucking satisfied when I beat him. It really is about learning his patterns and finding the optimal window to attack.
>>334991447
As an example before you get to anor londo they have the recreation of one of the hardest bits in DaS's two silver knights shooting arrows at you, only now they added 4 knights shooting at you because "git gud"
So many other parts just seem like they added it because of the it's hard meme and didn't think of design.
>>334989440
You are the cancer of this game. The boss isn't even hard. You just hug him and parry, then in the second stage, guess what? You watch his clone because his clone will show you the next move pontiff will make. WOW ITS LIKE YOU CAN SEE INTO THE FUTURE. Git gud.
>>334990324
>hardest boss
>not even done with the game
Just wait until nameless King shows up. Fucker took me atleast 15 damn tries. I had to git gud but it payed off. No summons or Magic bs.
>>334992242
Bosses where fine for me except for the two gimmick bosses where you are expected to die first time in which it complete bullshit.
Did him 2nd time, no summons
git good
>>334992371
I don't think that's bullshit at all, because the walk is much shorter and the angles they are shooting from make the arrows dodgeable by just running. You literally just run up there, roll into one arrow and then kill the knights. I mean sure, maybe it's not very intuitive, but that's what Dark Souls is about. It is, and always was, about trial and error. There are countless examples for that in all three games. I don't think DS3 is any more - or less - bullshit than DS1. 2 was bullshit, because hitboxes were weird.
>>334992579
>30 vigor
I'm surprised you even fucking died in this game lol
>>334992579
>level 66 at Pontiff
>>334992408
>People play the game for an option they are given
>Some how cancer
You're the cancer here I bet your an honor fag on top of this.
>>334992579
and I thought I was overleveled.
>>334992721
>>334992908
>>334992784
>You have to be a certain level in your first play through
I love upsetting fags like you in these threads not him but I didn't hit pntiff to 70 and still summoned for him on my first play through.
>>334992863
Honor fag? If you don't use proper Souls etiquette that has been in since Demon's you are the cancer.
>>334992371
literally git gud
come in from the right and only one of them has a good shot at you
>>334993078
>I ruined the experience for myself
Yeah man, I'm seething with rage right now. You totally got me.
Pontiff is baby tier
>>334993167
>Ruined the experience
>Was still a great time and had a blast
>Still a fun fight
Yea nah I didn't ruin anything U made it better.
>>334992690
To me 3 had far more than 1 or 2 combined. Two didn't seem to have that many but then Sotfs added more.
I'm all for trial and error but some things are just beyond that. I got one shot by a slug after clearing the room and opening a chest. literally designed to boil piss
>>334993175
Now this is bait how do you even die to him?
Bullshit? this is the first fucking boss in the entire game that has been any fun at all to fight.
>>334989852
That boss was bullshit still.
>>334992561
To be fair, Nameless King is optional.
>>334993175
He's not that bad though. You could literally roll all his attacks. I guess he can be really hard if you played the entire game with a shield.
>>334993175
But he's easier than the tutorial version
>>334993175
beat that guy so fucking easy, hes essentially the first boss but does more damage and doesnt have the phase 2 shit. just rolled.
Beat it in three tries last night
Git gud
>>334993314
fucking hell i wish i was that good. he was doing some cheesy build though, i watched the stream. some shit with anris straight sword and luck.
I hate how some of this attacks are nearly instant, while there's a huge wind-up for others. Not to mention most of his attacks have a 180+ degree swing arc.
>>334992561
Nameless King is 100% the most fun souls boss in my opinion, even after dying to him 20+ times I didn't want to summon because I knew I could do it and I was actually having a good time.
If any of us rolled one tenth of the amount of times and on the various surfaces we made our characters roll on in Dark Souls, our back would be FUUUUUUUCKED
>>334988443
If you're done with the Pontiff, you're done with the game period. Pontiff is arguably the first wall after the Watchers - good luck with the Dancer, or the Nameless King
>>334990324
>lvl 70
>insta kill
mutha fucker GIT GUD, I was lvl 56 and beat him with no summons and no ember, didn't even parry him cause I suck at parrying.
seriously, don't get greedy and hit him only 1 or 2 times when you have the chance, get him to half health and blitz him while he is summoning the ghost, if done correctly you will kill the ghost and then he is a piece of cake.
>>334992408
>You watch his clone
Or you kill the clone as soon as it appears - why would even let that shit slide as a liability?
>>334988443
What are you talking about? I think its great their adding new jedi to battlefront.
he killed me like 25 times until the retard that is me realized you could kill the phantom. then he is as easy as phase one (which you should have memorized by now)
Fun fight.
>tfw you get to the Smouldering Lake/Irithyll split and both areas make you realize just how fucking bad you are at this game
I don't know what to do.
>>334994328
Dancer's a joke.
>>334993646
I was real worried he would transform again (for some reason, obviously he wouldn't because you were in the dark) because his humanoid form is easy to predict and encounter. But those giant filth freaks are hard to keep track of.
>>334994587
Dancer is not a joke by any stretch
which fight do you think is not a 'joke' in this game?
I found the eyes in bizarro world and declined the firekeeper, do I kill her? Is that bad end?
>>334994562
what? you mean in the boss fights? Ill admit the old demon king was a real bitch for me and eventually i developed the strategy of getting him to phase 2 and then saying fuck melee ima suddenly be an archer and then i just kited him and turned him into a pin cushion, took a while but it got the job done, his fire aoe always got me and I couldn't get the timing down right to roll through it all the time.
>>334993085
Not him but you're an immense faggot.
>>334994802
The worm is almost as hard as the fucking king.
>>334988443
I remember dying so many times to Artorias.
Felt so good to finally kill him.
Must have died like a hundred times. Maybe more.
>>334994948
I just let the arbalest take care of the worm. That thing hit me for almost my entire health bar and I have 20 vigor at the moment.
>>334994802
I tried Demon King once, but I more meant just normal enemies in the area. Irithyll enemies hit me for like half my health bar, and that fountain courtyard showed me I probably shouldn't go that way yet. Demon Ruins has those fucking demons that make little fireball casters, and I got positively stuffed with fireballs.
I think I just need to level and farm for a bit. I'm only 37, I don't know if that's on par or not with these areas but it feels low. I think I'll farm for the Corvian scythe so I can use something slightly more interesting than the Dark Sword that still goes with my theme and try PvP for a bit.
>>334988443
>Dark Souls 3
>Not just the latest hyped /v/ game that everyone forgets about a month later
>>334995292
>Not fighting the worm normal
One of the best boss fights lad even though it's a mini boss.
>>334988443
Look mom, I posted it again!
>>334989184
The game gives you three npc summons for this one god damn boss.
You can't even use three without the dried fingers. The boss was clearly designed with co-op in mind.
>>334995292
>post this
>the scythe immediately drops
There goes farming.
>>334995381
It left me with a sliver of health with a passing hit. It wasn't happening.
>>334994587
>>334994686
I wonder if Dancer is more aggressive if you kill Emma early and go straight to Lothric Castle. I did NG+ and NG++ today, the first of which I did natural progression, beat Yhorm and Aldrich first. Just like my first playthrough, I beat Dancer straight out of the previous boss fight, without even refilling my estus. In NG++, I killed Emma, and suddenly it took me 3 tries before I won.
>>334988443
stay close in first phase, keep a distance in second phase.
Is this a new meme or are people being serious?
I cant fucking tell anymore
>>334994562
The Pontiff knights are bullshit and so are the goat fuckers in the demon ruins. Don't feel too bad anon.
Also the old demon king was the hardest boss I've fought. People tell you to get behind him, but it's kind hard when he turns at the same pace as you and you can get caught in his crotch and on his hammer.
Not to mention the constant AoE spam. Just a really shitty, badly designed boss fight.
>>334995443
Every single boss is designed as a 1-on-1 (or however many enemies the boss is). Solo, you're under pressure the duration of the fight, since the bosses won't let you breathe. Co-op has the boss focus on only one person at a time, while the others can either kick back, take a breather, or swarm him until he dies. I had to get summoned 30 times for Sunlight Medals, so I had my sign up at Pontiff for all of them. It was probably the most boring Souls experience I've had.
Though I will admit, with this boss, there is an aspect that had some co-op consideration. His shadow that he summons in his second phase normally sticks to him in a solo fight, and will attack before him, followed by him mimicking the shadow. In co-op, the shadow stays separate from him and will focus on someone else.
>>334988443
>One red, one Purple
Is that motherfucking Revan in Dark SOul ?
>>334995770
>Not to mention the constant AoE spam. Just a really shitty, badly designed boss fight.
>We actually got a good demon fight and people still bitch
Smdh
>>334990324
yes, parry bullshit
>>334995993
Don't get me wrong I did not summon any npc or people for any boss on my playthrough.
But with pointiff especially I see no reason to scoff at people who summon someone or use the npcs.
I farmed my 30 sunlight medals at the nameless king because that was a fun boss fight and people were always so happy when I helped them beat him.
>>334993175
Man, I love the Champ.
>>334993646
I find him harder than the tutorial version simply because he has infinite stamina so you get almost no time to get a hit in
>>334995770
The only thing I actually agree with in regards to the Old Demon King is the getting stuck between the legs part. His character model is a bit wonky and I found myself just getting pulled by his legs into his hammer attacks.Aside from that, it is a fairly decent boss fight that will wreck your shit if you underestimate it.
>>334995770
>use black knight weapon
>only ever saw his meteor attack twice during second phase and never any of his other shit
I was chunking off 1/8 of his health with every attack.
>>334996402
You missed the second best boss fight in the game anon
>>334992371
Git gud. You can literally run pass everyone there.
>OH SHIT A FUCKING GIANT WITH AN AXE AS BIG AS HE IS AHHHHH YES YES TIME TO GIT GUD
>fight devolves into special sword special attack 5 or so times
>>334996534
You could do it the other way, if you really wanted. Same with wyvern, just poke at his feet for 20 minutes at 19 damage a hit.
Best boss coming through
>that music
>that sound of her steps
>them graceful attack animations
>that difficulty
>that ass
>>334995770
On the contrary for me, I really enjoyed Demon King's AoE attacks. The fire jumprope felt straight out of a mario party, and his firey attacks in general were really pretty. If I had to find a flaw, it'd be that the camera didn't seem as reliable in the fight as it was for every other boss.
>>334996639
The fight clearly wasn't designed with that in mind, and I wish it was.
>>334996717
That's not the twin princes. Why were way better then the dancer.
>>334996717
why does this bitch remind me of Ciarran
>>334996745
This. Demon king was a fun fight. I got wreck the first few times because I got greedy. Learn to hit him once and bail and the fight is manageable.
>>334996227
desu I really only managed to beat him once I realised you had to pull out and move back in constantly. I died 20+ times fighting close to him, trying to dodge his attacks.
>>334996534
>>334996771
>tfw summoned two of my friends to co op that boss.
>we all charged are +3 storm ruler to max and unleashed the fury of the winds
>Fucking did so much damage numbers didn't even show up 2/3rds of his hp just dropped
I will never have such a rush again. That shit was hype as fuck
>go to grind medals and souls phantoming for Watchers since it's so easy
>get summoned by some dude wearing only pants and gloves with an uchi, instantly assume he's a shitter
>he's actually doing competently, we make it to second phase
>suddenly, Watcher's backdraft kills me in one hit from full health
I'm honestly embarrassed. His normal attacks did nothing, I don't get how that kiled me.
>>334996534
My problem is that siegward trivialized the fight completely for me. I mean it was insanely badass having the both of us launch dual storm renders at yhorm, but I think for my next character I'll purposely kill off siegward or something.
>>334994615
>obviously he wouldn't because you were in the dark
What are those weird black masses, and what is their relationship to the darkness in untended graves?
They can't be from the Abyss, because that was stopped by the CUright?
How do I build pyromancer for pvp? And what season should I be assuming for? Like chaos black blade or something?
>>334997118
Siegward kinda had a brain fart in my fight and just got rekt by yhorm.
>>334997149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxyXSpRA2-w
guys i'm stuck on the second boss i'm level 12 what do I do
>>334996717
>First phase is alright, she'll delay some of her swings to throw you off but nothing you can't get used to.
>She'll often stop a combo after an attack doesn't hit you (if it hits your shield, she'll keep going)
>Every once in awhile mixes it up with an extra fuckyou at the end of a short combo, in case you're just nibbling every time she's done.
>Grab can catch you off guard if you're too aggressive.
>Phase 2
>ENDLESS COMBO
>ENDS IN A FINAL ATTACK
>DID YOU THINK THAT WAS MY FINAL ATTACK
>HAVE A QUICK SHITTER ATTACK RIGHT AFTER FUCKER
>AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER ENDLESS COMBO
>mfw anyways
>>334997513
If you're using a shield, put it away and start rolling to dodge the attacks. It's easier and will save you a lot of grief in the long run
>>334995557
Yes, the Pontiff really is the hardest.
All of my friends agree that Aldritch is pretty shit, and not all that hard to beat. I beat him in 2 lives, a friend beat him in 1, another beat him in 3. The most anyone I know took for Aldritch was 5.
Pontiff, though, he's the real deal. Took me 15 for him, and no one in my group took less than 10.
The man's a monster. Not an unfair one for me at least, as I haven't got the hitbox problem that other anons reported. Every time I died against him, I knew it was not the game glitching out but was most definitely my fault. Still, though, he raped my ass til it bled, and not even the DaS expert among my friends beat him easily.
>>334997779
>Pontiff the real deal
Have fun when you get to the princes if you say their piss easy but pontiff is hard weak bait.
>>334989852
what armor is he wearing?pls respond
>>334989852
Guy does absolutely no damage. This guy is eating the biggest wind up skills and shit takes less than a quarter.
>>334997860
Drag set with soliar helm.
>>334997948
>>334997860
Drang set*
I'm on the Crystal Sage bitch right now. How the fuck do I handle her second stage where there are four of her. I know which one is the real one, but whenever I try to take out ANY of them, I'm immediately put into perma-stunlock because of her stupid fucking crystals. This shit is just plain unfair.
>>334997779
Have you or them fought the Princes, the last boss, or Nameless King?
>>334988443
DSP beat it. Are you worse at vidya than DSP?
>>334997850
>I had problem with boss
>B-But if you didn't then you must be baiting!
Princes are a joke mate piss off
>>334998212
>Calls them a joke
>has hard with pontiff
Was killing the clone that hard for you?
>>334988443
beat him solo on my 4th attempt and I'm really bad at souls games, git gud faggot
>>334997850
Beaten the game, buddy.
Pontiff was undoubtedly the hardest boss I encountered. Of the 6 people I know and regularly talk to about Dark Souls III, we all agree Pontiff is the hardest.
Either we're all just baiting each other, or you're probably wrong.
>>334998123
yes, yes, and yes.
As mentioned, Aldritch wasn't that hard. Nameless King was a real bitch, but not as hard as Pontiff. I think it took me 8 lives for the King, while again it took me 15 of the Pontiff.
Don't understand the Princes hype. They weren't very hard, tbqh.
>>334998259
He is not me, anon. I am me.
>>334997850
Boy the Princes fucked me up good, until I figured out the hitting in the back thing and that you can parry Lorian the Older
>>334998356
Explain how kill the clone is the hardest boss in the game? He isn't that hard to dodge if you played Bloodborne and fought the Plthumarine descendant at any low level depth.
after the pontiff I was so hyped for aldritch but godamn that was the most dissapointing fight in souls history for me. I wanted this lovecraftian god devouring monster instead i got a dead trap impaled on a tentacle
https://youtu.be/uwlYcNp4ARU?t=21
>>334998356
>8 lives for King
>15 for what is essentially a slower, easier version of Boreal Dancer
Mate you're pretty bad you know that?
>>334988443
Revan?
>>334998571
nigga Im not him but the dancer is so much fucking easier than pontiff.
14 TIMES I'VE KILLED THIS FUCKING BLACK KNIGHT AND HE WONT DROP SHIT. RRRREEEEE. RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE. GREATLY BOOSTS DISCOVERY MY ASS
>>334996745
I didn't even try to jump his fire waves. Ran away at full speed, dodge through his melee, run away to the other side of the map again when he does his fuckhuge spells. The arena they give you is massive with lots of cover from range attacks and line of sight.
If you think he's badYhorm is a fucking joke.andDancer is just like him but a chick.
>>334998749
see >>334997006
I enjoyed the fuck out of yhorm I don't understand why people hate him. It's gimmicky but fun
>tfw ironically died to Deacons
If you use a shivering gem on a weapon do you get the other infusion gem back?
is anybody else having a terrible time with the lock on system in this one?
Its like it has very short range, it almost never works when switching between targets in close range, when doing many rolls the camera goes crazy.
It doesnt seem to work through walls like before and the fucking camera center option that nobody ever uses fucks everything up when you actually want to lock onto an enemy.
>>334998805
Exactly, I loved the mechanic behind the fight but seriously, five swings?
>>334998749
How are Yhorm and the dancer similar in any fucking way?
>>334998813
>Died a million times trying to get threw that shitty area
>Deacons are the boss
I have never been so mad in my life I spent half an hour slaughtering those fucks just because.
>>334998259
>Killing clone trivializes the boss fight
The hard part of the Pontiff is his erratic moveset not the clone that tells you exactly what the Pontiff is going to do next. Nothing that the Princes throw at you has a drastically different dodge timing from any of their other attacks. (Unless you count his incredibly slow sword laser thing but it is very hard to get hit by that anyway) Pontiff is essentially a Bloodborne boss as was said here >>334998515 whose whole shtick is just fighting him until you get his timing down (or figure out you can parry him but meh)
I wonder if yhorn is a great fight if you dont use the storm ruler
Any1 tell me why I can't summon more than 2 reds at a fight club? I beat the game and wanted to host some
>>334993175
Same fucking thing happened to me earlier. Hp at 1 and he kept dodging my shit and shoulder rushing me to death. I then got stunned to death at the gate losing my 100k souls. I had an easier time with Nameless king than I did with this asshat for some reason although I died to both maybe 15 times each.
>>334998872
Anon, there was a period. I was referring to Pedotus.
>>334998515
Ah, so I needed to play BB to git gud? That explains things.
>>334998571
>slower, easier version of Boreal Dancer
U w0t?
I may not be all that good anon, but get the feeling that you're not all that bright if you think Pontiff is easier than Boreal Dancer.
>>334998872
I think he's saying Dancer is like the Pontiff. Which is fair, because the two are pretty similar. The Pontiff just happens to be orders of magnitude harder. I don't know what >>334998571 is smoking. Actually, I do, since it's 4/20, but I don't know of any variety with that potency.
>>334998356
You and those 6 people are incredibly bizarre. I won't deny that Pontiff isn't hard, because he's definitely at the harder end of the spectrum for this game, but I'd still put Princes, Nameless, and Soul of Cinder above him.
Also, Aldritch never gave me any trouble either. NG, + and ++ I walked in, killed him, and walked out first attempt.
>>334999047
>Ah, so I needed to play BB to git gud? That explains things.
Just dodging erratic fucks because that's all BB had. I platimuned the game and love it but it's combat was wack sometimes.
>>334998606
Righto, a slower enemy who deals less damage, doesn't have infinite stamina and can be parried to death while simultaneously making the fight easier in his 2nd phase is the harder of the 2 bosses.
You're a silly cunt
>Every boss has a 5+ hit combo that eats up all your stamina if you try to shield it
What did Miyazaki mean by this?
>>334994532
Nah, the phantom typically telegraphs his moves in advance, so if you can dodge the phantom first punishing Sullivan becomes even easier since you see what he is up to.
It does have the chance they pull that bullshit swipe-beam weapon, so if you cock up dodging the first the second is a sure hit and probably lethal, but whatever.
I did have a lot of trouble with the boss though, it is so different alone and I had practiced quite a bit helping others.
>get to soul of cinder
>fight is a ticking timebomb because the game will randomly stutter thus ignoring inputs
>boss is consistently swinging so when it does happen which is every time I die
I'm not sure if I should summon or wait for the future patch, if any.
Is there even any word on a patch?
>>334990324
>Grab great shield
>Tank his moves
>Hit him once after he's done
>Do this til phase 2
>Just kill him during phase 2 cause he's a lot slower
>>334998930
No one is putting down white soap stones so we can't get 2v2s going for some retarded reason. It's nothing but grapes and reds.
>>334998871
Yea it should of been more
>>334999047
Refer to this >>334999148
Then get better at the game you casual plebian.
>>334999157
Block 3 then parry or dodge.
>>334995451
I've had strange luck with some drops, I think I have about three of the scythes just by going through the areas once or twice.
But I keep getting leg armor and never helmets.
>>334998909
No, he's Fume Knight, He's got long chains of attacks that he can end at any point, forcing you to make sure he's finished before you can punish. He even has Fume's quick side swipes if you stand behind him.
>>334998813
>Deacons fight
>mfw Farron Greatsword
>>334998356
>This boss was the hardest!
>That boss is easy tbqh. THIS one is the hardest.
>But that's the easiest boss in the game. THIS boss on the other hand is the hardest.
>Git gud
every fucking thread
>>334989440
>Then why is their a co op option on the first play through you fucking faggot?
So casuals don't return the game.
That's literally the only reason.
>never lose my souls
>use the majority of them to level
>end up extremely overleveled simply by killing every enemy once
You guys must blow if you're hitting these bosses at low SL.
>>334999578
I ended my first playthrough at level 97 without doing any dark sign levels
>>334999578
was 65 before I hit the frost village/ finished the catacombs feels good being able to solo things without having a hard time.
>>334999486
I suppose technically the very hardest boss would be the boss that has killed the most players
>>334998646
I got multiples of everything and I'm just past Abyss Watchers
Just do it fast, it takes a while
>>334999578
I spend most of my souls on upgrading weapons and buying items. You must really blow if you need to dump all your souls into levels to be able to kill the bosses.
>>334998825
Respond please
>>334999578do people not do low SL runs for DaS3 yet? In previous games the only measure of legitimate skill was beating NG+7 bosses at SL1
>>334999196
So you can only summon 2 reds or grapes? Not even a 3rd grape? I hate havin my guest wait for me to summon
>>334992371
And it's far easier because of the layout and the positioning of the archers. It's practically impossible to get shot off if you're at all capable of being aware of your surroundings.
>>334999739
You need more than 1 weapon to beat the game?
You need to buy items to beat the game?
>>334988443
How the FUCK are you so bad that you die to a guy who spawns a clone that does less damage AND tells you what attack he is going to use next?
Pontiff was the funniest fucking boss I loved fighting him.
I purposely killed my self the third time fighting him so that i could fight him again
I had a harder time getting to the fucker than killing him
>>334989184
This isn't Demons Souls. The point of the game is that it's hard and you gotta do whatever you can to win.
>>334999760
I haven't tried it but pretty sure you don't.
Also,
>>335000000
checked.
>>334999739
>need to
>buying items/upgrading weapons requiring a substantial amount of souls
Nice try.
>>335000000
CHECKED
>>335000000
Holy shit
>>334999810
Yep, there's invasion slots and co-op slots. I think you can be invaded by 3 people but you can only summon 2 invaders. I don't know how but I had a 3 v 3 in Farron one time through invasions. If you could get some co-op slots filled you could chain fights hence me bitching bout no white signs.
>>335000000
Pontiff confirmed for 2ez
>People complain about Pontiff when Prince Lothric exists
>A boss who's entire gimmick is to fuck you over by completely fucking up your camera
PL is legit artificial difficulty. That boss would be a complete joke without that bullshit gimmick.
>>335000000
PONTIFF CONFIRMED FUNNIEST BOSS BY HEXES
>>335000186
I wish grapes were co op slots then ; w;
thanks anon
>>335000000
Checked
>>335000223
>all those hits throughout the game just trying to see the enemy properly
>camera spinning out of control on fuckhuge boss #3182
>soul of cinders second phase
>an instant attack that throws you into the air and beats you around until you die
ebin meme
>>335000000
Witnessed.
>>335000000
WITNESSED
>>335000000
fuckin nice
planing 50 of luck build wish me luck
>>335000000
Nigger
>>334989918
The first phase is far harder than the second though.
First phase he has almost no cooldown between his attacks and spams at you until you run out of stamina and get whacked.
Second phase virtually all of his moveset is replaced with easily telegraphed garbage. Just wait for him to do a really slow aoe attack then run in and poke him a few times.
It's really hard for me to tell similar attack telegraphs apart, and I usually just dodge as soon as they pull back. It wouldn't be a problem if so many bosses didn't hold their weapons back for 10 seconds before slashing.
But yeah, I didn't have much trouble with Pontiff. So far I've had the most trouble with Dragon Armor and Abyss Watchers.
>>334993078
30 fucking levels in vigor is like health across the whole screen meaning you can eat like 5x more attacks than other playsers
>>335000000
>nearly five years later people are still amazed at peoples posting numbers to the point they'll ignore the actual threads topic
They need to remove gets too.
>>335000000
Fuck you...
>>334988443
The environments only get prettier, you're missing out.
>>334988443
I'm feeling the same way about twin princes. I've managed to get to the weak one reviving his brother a few times, but the magic shit he casts throws me off or catches me. I've been stuck here for a day.
>>335001018
>Implying there is anything wrong with that
It's called tank build
>>335001114
GETs have been a thing on 4chan for longer than you've been on it.
>>334989184
People who don't play soul level 1 their first time miss the entire point of the game. Get on my level, faggot.
>>335000000
>just beat pontiff on ng+ ezpz
>see this post
your meme made Pontiff give the fuck up.
Am I the only one who found it easier to not kill the clone? He rarely does anyone of his long fucking bitch combos with the clone out. Most are just big ass telegraphed one-off attacks. I cant be the only one
>>335001126
Lothric won't case any magic if you're right next to him.
Just hug the boss the best you can and roll through his attacks. He has a pause after his combo which will let you get some hits in.
If he teleports away and manages to get that homing soulmass clone off then just roll away from the boss until they all run out then resume hugging him.
>>335001393
The one time I didn't kill the clone is the only time I died to him because I got double stunned locked and they did some tekken tag two combo style shit on my ass.
>>335001307
>repeating numbers have been a thing since 4chan was created
hurr durrrrrrr im only pretending to be retarded
/s4s/ is for this autism now, I'm sure seeing a bunch of 0's really brightens your day and all but repeating digits got removed for a reason.
>>335001552
>Being this trigger by gets
Didn't even reply to the get but fuck off nigger.
>>335001470
I would always just bait his ass into using one of his long wind up jump attacks or up close his overhead smash. Everything else I would just roll out of. The few times I killed the clone he went fucking 2.5X more aggressive than in P1
>>335001552
They were, you retard.
million post GETs were always big deals, and even before boards hit 1 million posts, hundred-thousand post GETs were big deals.
Just because you started browsing 4chan last summer doesn't mean everyone else did.
>>335001552
Because they came up all the time. This was a million get. Those used to be huge. Posting has gone up, but it's still infrequent enough that it's worth a celebration.
>>335001692
I use the claymore so I just R1 and hit both him his clone at once. Fuck this whole no shield shit these faggots talk about. Classic knight has served me well.
>>335001552
They were fucking removed because of the staggering flow of dubs threads you fucking mongrel. Trips and above have always and will always get replies. If you dont fucking like it fuck off
>>335001647
>I come to a videogame board to discuss everything but videogames
why don't you fuck off back to that little alien site you come from culture cockmunch.
>>335001704
>but it's still infrequent enough that it's worth a celebration.
>celebrating a fucking post number
I bet you're one of those sad harmony posters too, huh.
>>334989852
Can you dual wield his weapons?
>>335001552
>Doesnt like gets because they derail topics
>Then immediately derails a topic by complaining about gets
Good job
>>335001916
You can suppolsy combine shit even though I don't fully believe it but if you can you should be able to combine his sword.s
>>334988443
He's a parry check.
If you parry, he's not any more difficult than Watchers. If you can't, he's absolute fucking bullshit.
Fuck this boss. His second form is actually easier than the first because the shadow projects the moves for you and adds enough space to punish him after he whiffs.
>>335001836
Fucking pussy.I just can't go back to using a shield after BB. It just feels like going backwards using a shield
>>335002084
Nigga I got platinum in bloodborne and still perfer a shield it's comfort and style I mid roll parry and block it's great.
>>335002185
Mid roll this time isn't too bad.
In das1 I could not stand ever to be anywhere above fast roll but das3 both are fine.
I feel like the only person on the planet who had more trouble with fucking Aldrich God Devourer than anything else. Pontiff was nothing, Aldrich and his fucking bullshit arrow rain and soul spears are ridiculous.
>>335002185
I just don't like it anymore. Plus most of the weapons Im using are paired weapons. Fucking twinspears make my dick diamonds
>>335001695
While I don't support fag culture like gets unless if im depressed enough to identify with v i do agree that yeah, theyve always been a fucking thing.
>>335000000
shit get
>>335001552
Shut the fuck up.
>>335002285
His second phase arrow rain is pure bullshit
If your RNG sucks and he does several of them you can't do much.
>>335002319
Fair enough anon Twin spear style is stylish as fuck.
>>335002265
Mid rolls pretty fucking good in this game can easily dodge everything with ease
>>335001114
more like they need to remove DS3 threads
>>335002373
If he does arrow rain in P2 and then decides to Soul Spear good fucking luck. Most of the time I couldnt stay locked on to see the spears coming when running from the rain, the other fucking time it was get hit by the spear or the rain because I literally couldnt dodge both
How is Lothric Knight Long Spear?
>>334998813
>tfw summoned to beat Deacons
Died 3 times then said fuck it. Not doing that shit as Sorcerer, that's fucking retarded. I one shot Old Demon King with zero damage though
>>334988443
This boss like his minion around the area, have no poise and hit lightly. I used a strong medium shield and the boss just couldn't get any damage on me. I could take 3 regular swings before having to dodge from lack of endurance drain.
>Put shield up
>Block his basic attacks
>Get your swings in
>Repeat
When he summons his clone, then just hit him harder. If you're a magic user, then you're fucked. Magic users have it rougher this game than Dark Souls 1 and 2 where they were easy modo. Everything in general hits harder and faster than the previous 2 games.
>>335002697
Long. The range is crazy.
>>334989184
Jolly co-operation is one of the core fundamentals of the Souls series. They even put NPC summons before every boss so you can do them offline. I mean if you want to be a hardcore XXX DO THE DEW XXX Doritos gamer, sure go for it but the game was clearly designed with co-op in mind.
>>335001018
My friend is at 30 VIG and he just got to abyss watchers. He can just spam r1 and chug until he wins and he still kills the boss fast enough that he doesn't even see all of the bosses attacks before it's over. There are quite a few builds that make the game a joke.
I'm about to lose my fucking mind. I've been farming this piece of shit for an hour and a half and it won't fucking drop a sharp gem
>>335003013
Nigga a crsytal lizard should drop one.
>>334988443
The only thing that is bullshit is that i can't enchant each of my swords with a different spell like he apparently can
>>334999578
I like grinding and buying everything that I can even if I don't use it or have an interest in it.
>>335002919
>clearly designed for coop in mind
>when every mob and all bosses don't even put up a fight in coop, and are all single target
>>335002919
>clearly designed with co-op in mind
>>334993894
Does luck affect your parry frames?
>>335000000
I beat pontiff 4 times as a summon bro before I got him first try in my game. I mean, technically I "did" one shot him, even if I "did" get lots of practice runs. That counts though, no?
>>335003156
>when every mob and all bosses don't even put up a fight in coop, and are all single target
Now that's just false
>>335003071
Where? They only ever drop twinkling.
>>335003013
This exact situation is why Luck is a stat now
What's the Pont iff it all, eh?
>>335003342
>each luck only raises item discovery 1 point
>equip gold serpent ring for 50, or symbol of avarice for 100
>>335003272
Yeah.
Luck that the invader has a fast connection so that his attack animation lands at just the right time you do a parry since parry spam is the worst it has been in all 3 games.
Luck, that you don't get paired with people that are stone statues moving about, fucking up everything by association.
Luck.
>>335003331
Dropped by a Crystal Lizard, near the Dilapidated Bridge bonfire (where the invader spawns), in Undead Settlement. Note: cannot be obtained from the Dilapidated Bridge bonfire (Lizard will escape as you spawn), instead come from Undead Settlement bonfire.
got it off a wiki
>>335003156
The fuck? The very first fucking boss has an AoE sweep attack
So I guess Sulyvahn is the Capra Demon of DaS3?
Pretty easy but a wall for scrubs.
A bit later in the game though.
>>335003610
It is not the Capra Demon, because it is actually fair and you dont have to deal with any other shit enemy.
Best straight sword? Best titanite upgrade for said straight sword?
>>334988443
DODGE
LEFTI'm not being sarcastic in the slightest.The same way that dodging right breaks BSB in BB, he literally CAN NOT HIT YOU if you dodge left and under his sword every time.
Just get behind him for the purple arc bullshit.
>>335003675
What's so unfair about Capra? You just roll past them up the stairs, kill the dumb dogs and alone he's such a joke they even used him as a regular enemy.
If this is what you call "unfair" then you must have just refunded DaS2.
>>335003504
I hope I haven't killed that one, I'll go check thanks.
>Equip Carthus ring
>Roll around him like a madman until his combo ends
>Attack 2-3 times
>Repeat until death
That went better than I expected.
>>334988443
Not even that hard faggot
Wait until you get to Nameless King
Probably the best boss in the souls series period
>>335003470
I like to give my characters decently high luck in games that have it as a stat for RP/Immersion reasons (yes Im a faggot) so someone tell me Luck is useful for something other than Item discovery.
>>335003317
Not at all.
>>335003947
one sword that scales with luck has completely broken damage.
>>335003947
I think it helps bleed
>>335003947
There's this one sword and Hollow infusions, it's not optimal but it's something.
>>335003947
You are not a faggot for RPing in an RPG anon.
Although I really don't see the appeal of doing it in souls.
Games are basically action games and with how covenants work they clearly don't want to encourage rp.
>>335003947
There is an infusion that scales with luck. You can try making a build around it but it might be awful if you are going blind and miss certain things.
>>334992371
That part is way easier than it was in the first game. You get a side path to run along so you can fight the archers one at a time.
>>335004095
Anri's sword?
>>335004205
Yeah.
>>334988443
Just wait til you fight Champ
>>335004273
I cant figure out how to complete her quest she's just disappeared
>>335004321
>Champ
>Hard
You wish gundyr stop posting
>>335003864
It's pretty easy to get bodyblocked by the dogs even if you know what to do. The Dogs AI changes what they do every time so there is no repeatable method of making it there without getting hitstunned on the way.
>>335004356
Did you talk to her in the catacombs in two spots? You didn't find Horace and then tell her where he is did you?
>>334988443
pontiff is ez
fucking nameless king is BULL SHIT tho
its not even that he's super hard, but having to fight the fucking bird phase every time breaks my will to keep playing. the bird phase isn't even hard, it just takes forever because you can only hit him in a limited window
goddam i mad
>>335004321
Who is champ?
>>335002919
Coop is for casuals so they don't have to put in explicit easy mode.
>>335004380
Yeah but it's not exactly unfair, you'd probably even die a few times at first before you figure what to do. But a few deaths is nothing.
>>335004458
>tfw my first few attempts on NK I killed the dragon entirely with arrows
fuck that was stupid
>>335004465
You fight the first boss again without his second phase in a pitch black first area. in one of the side areas in the game. He's just as weak as the first time you fight him when you get the coliing sword.
>>335004458
His bird phase is easy as shit, if you're so impatient that you can't wait 15 seconds or less between attacks you should go play call of duty you fucking mong.
>>335004436
Nah I didnt even find them in the catacombs
I think my game glitched out because I went straight to Irithyll then went back and did the other areas to get the doll
I fucked up a whole bunch of quest lines, but its okay, I wanted to experience the game blind like I did in DS1.
I'm doing a new character with a walkthrough this time so I dont miss anything this time.
>>335002919
No it's literally just a difficulty setting.
Summoning is just an immersive replacement for selecting "easy" in a menu.
>>335004120
I really wish covenants had any PvE significance other than fucking you over from certain NPC questlines, like, different enemies/NPC invaders/areas/bosses/dialogue/endings (think DeS world tendency but expanded upon) would be really nice to have, but I guess that will never happen now.
>>335004594
only meant to write this time once
>>335002737
I got my sunlight medal quota in that fight alone. How sad is that?
>>335004590
i literally said the bird phase wasn't hard you fucking moron, learn to read
>>335004594
Yeah the quest lines are on the obscure side. You're definitely not meant to get them right on the first play through, I feel.
>>335004808
You should learn to read first, the main point of my post was about how impatient you are. Maybe you're so impatient you only made it 7 words in before going full retard.
>>335004818
I was really pissed I messed up the darkwraith quest, I didnt know you had to level up 5 times with that pilgrim guy and then he just died
I did it on my new character and A WILD WAIFU APPEARS
>get to king's garden
>decide I'm bored, want to invade
>can't be arsed to do it alone
>join the wolf boys
>equip it
>no summons for an hour
>fuck it, back to being a blueberry
>still no summons over the next hour
What am I doing wrong
Also why aren't the blueberry and white covenants combined yet? Why would you stay in a passive covenant just for some safety, when they could be combined and you'd be just as protected PLUS getting to fight other invaders.
>>335003330
>>335003156
Don't know how you guys feel about this dude but, here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbR7MYGPR6c
>It's a "4 faggots sitting in a popular PvP area with dried finger on" episode
>>335004982
Cause people who want protection don't necessarily want to be interrupted while progressing in their areas constantly.
>>335003013
All of the red eyed skeleton fags in there drop sharp gems. I got like fucking 20 of them when I was farming vertebrae shackles.
>>334994449
He's less aggressive with the clone spawned and has a wide open attack window after he does a flying slam.
>>335005116
Really? Thanks for the tip, these hooded fucks are some of the most irritating fucks in the game.
>>335005064
onlyafro is gud, followed him for years
>>335005064
>problem with "playing to win"
sorry I'm stopping here, what is this shit?
>>335004982
Join the Faithful and stand at the Anor Londo bonfire
Literally instant invading
>>335004919
the implication there is that i can't beat the bird because i'm impatient you stupid fucker even though i said hte bird is easy
>>334998805
>>334998871
Me too, like storm king. Fuck dragon god though, that was a massive letdown.
>>335004982
You're like double or triple the level for Wolf boys, m8.
>>334991091
This game is by far easier than Dark Souls 1 and 2, 2 especially. 2 was the game that tried too hard to appeal to the 'git gud' meme.
3 in comparison smacks you up the face if you think you're getting another Asylum Demon because Miyazaki's back, but it's not as hard as the predecessors by far.
>first run
>melee with a shield
>some points in vig
>everything was nice
>second run
>sorceries no shield
>only a few points in vig
>DS3 suddenly becomes hell
>>335005273
Yeah. I had a route to kill as many of those fucks as fast as possible without being monotonous as fuck killing the two closest to the bonfire.
I'd leave the bonfire, dodge the ball, kill the two in the hallway, kill the one at the end of the same hallway (he resurrects if you don't use a blessed weapon or a weapon with a similar ability), then drop down, go up the stairs and kill the archer you took a screenshot of and the two other ones up there. Go down the other staircase and kill the one to the right, and then get the last one overlooking the rope bridge. Then I'd bone back and start over, but you could always run across the bridge and hit the boss bonfire if you want to save 200 souls but really that's chump change.
Actively invade people as a grape to break up the grind with some hijinks and you can get 30 shackles while having fun.
>>335004584
He is actually much stronger and faster in his second phase but he is not as hard as he could of been.
Pontiff is done once he gets to Phase 2. Just get him down half way and you've won after killing the clone which you probably got 75% of when he was summoning it anyways.
I was able to do Pontiff alone but not Abyss Watchers.
>>335001875
>talking shit about harmony
Is nothing sacred to you?
>most popular message still can't break 50 thumbs up likes follow subscribes
After killing fume knight and sinh in ds2 there really isn't anything I struggled with.
People complaining about 3 being bullshit haven't played ds2 DLC.
>>334996926
because she is
>>335005693
Thanks for the tips anon, I'll farm a bunch tomorrow.
I can't be a grape cause I both killed the nutsack tree and pissed sirris off by joining the fingers.
does Leonhard have to have his quest completed to join Rosaria's Fingers? I want his armor and don't give a rats ass about his quest, can I just push his shit in?
>>335005886
>fume
>sinh
You don't know shiiiiiieeeet. Now 2CAT, and the area itself...
>>335005641
I'd say it's on the same level of difficulty as DaS1, but for different reasons entirely. Once you hit Irithyll mobs start hitting pretty hard, and unlike 1 you can't cheese your way through, not to mention some bosses are substantially harder than anything in the first game.
>>334988443
Just stay close to him an spam R1 with a curved sword. It worked for me.
>>335004369
I didnt know he was parryable
He was by far the hardest for me, nameless was easy
>>335006018
The tracking is pretty good right now. They hit a sweet spot between das1 and 2.
DaS2 going for a backstab is just stupid and in das1 it was too easy.
Now you have to time it properly but it works.
>>335005661
Mages are lil bitches in DS3.
Finally.
Honestly good just quit the game is too hard for you. This boss is easy, the late game bosses are way harder so you'll have no hope. GG and sorry you can't hang.
>>335005967
I feel ya. In my NG+ I had to put Sirris down like the dog she is when she got uppity at me for giving Rosaria a tongue. I needed to do it to get the last gesture.
Good news is that now I only have to get 3 more spells to get, and then the +1 and +2 rings will just come naturally. All them cheeverinos will be done with the completion of NG++.
>>335005992
The guy that gives you the orbs? You need to join Rosaria, go back to firelink, talk to him and he'll move to Rosaria's bed chamber. Thenhe murders her, but you can still use her. Anyway, there'll be a black orb on the ground for you to invade his world. You get his gear and her soul back, which you can use to revive her or get a spell.If you just kill him he only drops his mask.
All you gotta do is roll around out him and attack him.
>>335006161
Damn man. It took me to ng+5 to get all the chievs.
Although I didn't look up anything and I think I fucked up sirris and yellowfinger several times.
I'm a professional cowboy and I use catheters. Been cowboyin' for 25 years. I've had 14 broken bones, 2 concussions and a punctured lung. I know pain and I don't want any more of it. Especially when I cath.
>>335001323
This tbqh fampai.
>>335006015
that was honestly one of the worst experiences ive ever had in any game
>annoying unicorn fucking shits endlessly spawning
>run to boss fog takes ages even unhindered
>snowstorms forcing you to memorize the route
>unicorns can follow you right up to the fog
>boss is just a reskin of a previous boss but way strongee and fighting two instead of one because if theres one thing people loved in the vanilla game it was the multi boss fights!
>attacking the boss damages your weapon for some fucking reason
>boss is as good as dead but suddenly it starts healing and doing even more damage
>>334998813
I died once or twice to their curse attack.
>>335006515
This
>>335006457
I looked up a bunch of stuff because I like seeing all of a game's content without having to randomly stumble across it after playing for 300 hours. If the souls games were more transparent about what actions have what consequences then I wouldn't rely on outside sources, but honestly. If I'm playing offline how in the living shit would I figure outI can interact with a cage on some asshole's back to join a covenant?
>>335006241
fuckingLautrec 2.0
makin' me have to work for his shit.
>>335002919
Autistic faggot. Everything is possible to do alone. It's not that hard. You have to be some scrub to invoke someone to beat a boss.
>>335006635
its not that hard to stumble upon. if you realize the guy isnt attacking you, youre probably going to check him out and see the button prompt
>>335006635
You could use something like this senpai
https://zkjellberg.github.io/dark-souls-3-cheat-sheet/
>>335006804
He does attack you if he sees you.
>>335006846
No he doesn't.
>>335006804
In a world where 95% of everything wants to kill you on sight you're not going to hesitate killing something that looks exactly like other shit you've killed
>kill the tree
>apparently this locks me out of the grape juice covenant
the fuck?
how does that work
>>335006635
Well. Generally speaking you shouldn't aggro things that blatantly don't aggro you.
It should be pretty clear that this guy was out of the ordinary and that maybe you should hesitate before just murdering it.
I get your point, it is certainly valid in so many other points of the game.
>>335006846
I think he only attacks you if you already beat the tree
>>335006880
The fucker chased me down and tried to behead me.
>>335006965
This is probably true. I did it properly on a different character.
>>335006904
Tree destroys the roof so you can't get down there.
>>335006904
You still have a second chance by completing Sirris' questline
>>335006904
The tree breaks through the floor, thus killing the guy at the bottom of the pit who gives you the grape covenant.
Yes, it's completely fucking stupid.
>>335006904
Well, technically the roof collapses and kills the covenantor. You only gain access to the covenant later through somewhat of a coincidence.
>>335007016
I just tested it in this playthrough. Either you are checking a different one or you have already attacked him.
If you do not attack him he will just walk back and forth.
>>335001018
There sure as hell isn't any other stat worth putting points into with DSIII's shit attribute system.
>>335006904
You can join later if you do sirris questline. Happened to me too. You can't join rosaria's fingesr until you complete though, she'll be hostile to you if you do.
>>334994948
What? If you stop the projectiles, the worm is just a hitbox you slap at when it appears. If you're "behind" it, that is to say, coming from the old demon king's bonfire, the worm will come out of the ground and settle right in front of your face and you can attack it without worry. It doesn't even turn around. It can only attack in one direction, it can do literally nothing to you if you're behind it.
As far as getting past it the first time, just sprint around its right side and you'll completely avoid the lightning. Probably outrun the arrows, too. There's a bonfire right on the other side of it so you only have to run past the front of it once.
Killed him blindfolded and I didn't even take damage.
>>335006734
>spoiler
I'd say gargoyle guy.
I killed pubehairs with a bow and theres nothing any of you can do about it. After dealing with the shitty camera angles of his first phase and the foggy floor that kept fucking with my sense of distance I just teleported out and went back in to rape him with a greatbow. Fell over like a bitch.
>>335007126
Listen. He was aggressive to me when I checked on a character that already killed the tree.
I don't know if he's passive before you kill the tree; I never bothered to check. I never assume a monster is non-hostile.
My entire fucking point was there's nothing in the game to indicate an entire covenant is accessible using that particular method. A method that has no precedence in the game before or after that point.
I mean you could try to decipher what the fuck the cretins in the cage nearby were babbling on about, but that certainly wouldn't give you the impression that you can jump in a cage. At least in bloodborne you were abducted by the ballsack wielding beanpoles if they killed you which can happen. That at least you're likely to stumble upon in a play through. The cage? Nah.
I'm just saying there would be no reason to use a guide if the content of the game made some sort of rational sense.
>>335007451
I beat himand Soul of Cinderthe same way.
>>335007547
The covenant has two different ways to join them.
I think you give yourself too little credit if you think you wouldn't have found it in any way.
also you are saying jumping into a cage is crazy? Seems appropriate for the covenant of crazy people.
I do not accept the notion that games should have no secrets and OWE it to you to spell out everything in one playthrough.
What would be so bad about finding the covenant on a third or fourth playthrough?
>>335007547
For what it matters I get your point. So much of the stuff in the game gives you absolutely no hint that it's there.
I'm not saying that they need to spoon feed us quest progression; I certainly don't need markers everywhere and a journal telling me what to do next. But this style of not-telling-you-shit or waiting until NG+ is typical of Japanese design. There are games out there where you can't get a secret if you take longer than a couple hours to get to a certain point.
Nobody cares that some people don't have time to play games three or four times to find everything. Some of us have to waste time on 4chan.
>>335007559
Nameless Cunt I can understand, but you really missed out by not fighting Soul of Cinder in a legit way, it's a really good fightother than the instakill stunlock with absolutely bullshit range the second form does.
>>334998094
i got by by going after the fakes first, they go down in 1 hit iirc, so after you kill them you get free reign to beat the sages ass until it decides to do it all again
>>335007786
>I do not accept the notion that games should have no secrets and OWE it to you to spell out everything in one playthrough.
>What would be so bad about finding the covenant on a third or fourth playthrough?
This. Why the fuck do these people insist to find everything in their first playthrough.
>>335007132
Just so you know, you're a retard.
I replayed Dark souls 1, 2 and bloodborne recently, and I realised that dark souls 3 is honestly harder than all of them, the challenging bosses have far more moves/combos and the normal enemies/red eyed enemies/minibosses have so many more moves
>>335008454
because you are not that familiar with it.
>>335008195
Because some people don't have time to do it twice.
That's not the problem though. It's that the game doesn't give you any opportunity to find the secrets on your own and it's made especially worse when we have no way to revert to a previous save. Games shouldn't be designed where it is necessary to consult a guide/the Internet to find everything. That's just bullshit.
There are tonnes of events in this game where you "fuck up" and you don't even know why you fucked up. I'm not talking about "Yes" or "No" conversation prompts, I mean a guy that fucking gets crushed by a boss in a pit you don't even know how to get at.
The only prompts in this game are obvious things like switches. Nobody is going to think to walk up to some fucking random well in a corner to talk to it not when there are a million doodads that don't have any prompts. I guess the message system helps that but the message system also makes exploration easy-mode. I found the Slab under the elevator on my own because it felt out of place while playing offline; it's too fucking easy when people are telling you its there.
>>335008454
Replaying a game is different. I could easily mop the floor of original DaS if I wanted to since I put so many hours into it and know all of the best armour sets, weapons etc, but that doesn't make it easier. DaS3 is still new, and honestly first playthrough of it has been far easier for me than first playthrough of DaS.
>>335008454
Dark Souls 3 didn't feel hard because of past lessons in caution with the previous games. The bosses didn't feel hard because Bloodborne's non-stop aggression taught me to deal with these infinite stamina bosses.
I think people should play their first time offline. It adds challenge.
how to beat pontiff
1. circle right holding up shield until he misses with fire swing over your head
2. hit him twice
3. repeat
>/v/ hyping up the dancer
>I beat it in 1 try
Feels good to be gud
GET IN HERE
http://nes.sne.jp
>>334988443
I'm having a hard time with him but that's probably because I've never leveled up my Vigor so he just 1-shots me most of the time.
>>335009027
Yeah I don't get it either.
I had 4 estus left over from the giant and I still killed it.
>>335009027
They weren't hyping her difficulty.
They were hyping the "Great View ahead"
>>335008454
This is the first Souls game I've ever actually beaten. I honestly don't see how anyone could call it the hardest.
>>335009027
I'm not good and I beat it first try.
>>335009124
>>335009027
Me neither, I got killed by her a few times, only because I got caught by her spinning attack with my back to a wall. A lot of people say she's hard, but she isn't that aggressive and gives you time to heal if you get hurt.
>>335008725
>Because some people don't have time to do it twice.
What kind of logic is this?
Game offers you secrets to find in subsequent playthroughs, and rewards people for replaying, and you don't like about it just because you don't have the time for it? It's like blaming an literary author for not writing all the metaphor explicit enough for the public to understand everything on their first read. I'm not saying DaS is literary tier but there's nothing inherently wrong about putting secrets here and there. Not everything needs to be done in a fast-food manner. Heck, if you don't read any guide to begin with, you wouldn't even know you probably wouldn't be aware of missing a lot.
>It's that the game doesn't give you any opportunity to find the secrets on your own and it's made especially worse when we have no way to revert to a previous save.
Replaying. If you don't have the time for it, it is not your fault, but not the game's fault as well. Don't blame Ulysses for being dense as fuck if you don't want to invest time into it.
>Games shouldn't be designed where it is necessary to consult a guide/the Internet to find everything.
You don't need to consult anything to beat the game. The game offers a solid 20 hours gameplay experience even if you do it completely blindly. What do you insist on finding everything on your first try? You can totally ignore the secrets and still have a good amount of fun.
>>334988443
Literally beat this boss on my first try. Stop being dogshit
>>335000000
Now that we have this post to confirm it. Can we stop posting this bait >>334988443 ? Just grind like a scrub if you can't git gud. You can still tell people you killed it.
>>335003317
No. Don't help others till you have finished your first run faggot
>>335008789
DaS was only harder though because I wasn't used to the gameplay.
The bosses in DaS are a lot more stationary than DaS3 and never pressure you as much. I remember when people were genuinely shocked by Manus's 5 hit combo.
They're mechanically simpler, slower and much more telegraphed, I fail to see how anyone could rightfully call DaS1 a harder game.
Similarly, DaS2 bosses are slow and have tiny movesets, and in general are a lot less complex than DaS3.
Is it just me or are parry frames for bosses nowhere near what their animations imply.
Like, Gundyr for instance you have to parry his blows midswing nowhere near where your hitbox is.
>there are people in this game who will struggle with dragonslayer armor
>>334996717
>the camera's face that entire fight
>>335009525
>The bosses in DaS are a lot more stationary
Right, but they aren't so easily staggered. A lot of the larger knights would be unswayed by your attacks and just smack you back hard, and the monsters would just punch through your attacks too. It was pretty unforgiving in that respect, you either had to turtle or dodge perfectly. I also find there's a lot less sweeping attacks in DaS3 with massive hit ranges and many of the bosses' attacks go far out and can still be avoided far more easily. Take even the butchers, they only seldomly "unlock" their blades to do massive sweeps, the rest of the time their attacks are just right in front of them for a short range.
Real talk, how many y'all niggahs rolling with a beefy 2 hander sword, no shield, and no ranged / spells?
>>335010034
I'm rolling with no shield, no ranged and2handing the weeaboo chaos blade.
Havel 50 int sorc with Crystal Sage Rapier reporting in.
>>334988443
Third-tried him
There's actually a lot of lenience on his attacks if you're close to him- plents of swings I thought would hit me, but went straight past or through me.
Don't be greedy, do well-timed rolling and then stab him in the ass when his combo finishes, just ignore the phantom since it does the same shit as he does.
>>335010228
Is that rapier actually good? I like how it looks but at +4 with 25 INT I hate it
>>335010310
Good? Nah, son, but that +50 item discovery got my dick dripping.
>>334988816
This, no shame. Cheated all the way to the end after the pontiff. Fuck this game. Don't care even if I get banned.
>lose to Pontiff 20+ times
>buy parrying dagger
>kill him in 2 ripostes and a combo
>>335010034
Does my butcher knife count?
>>335010310
It's good for farming shit, you'll also swim in titanite shards.
>>335010996
>can't pick up any more shards
>can only sell 99 at a time
>have to keep running back to the bonfire to take 99 more out of storage
>>335010034
BKGA and caestus for parrying knights for that sweet, sweet 1500 damage riposte.
>>335009086
Yeah, you should respec soon as you get to the Cathedral of the Deep. There is only two real specs in the game. Hp and melee damage, Hp and magic damage.
The specifics comes down to what type of magic damage flavor you like; pyro, magical, miracles or the melee damage types of; heavy strength weapons or light dex weapons.
>>334988443
Git gud
>doing fine against champion gundyr
>hes almost dead
>rng goes all fucky and all he does is the whiffs and arm charges over and over again until I die
It's like I'm really playing PvP where the other player decides to use the cheesiest strategy to win.
>>334988443
How people have problems against bosses now that you can abuse iframes again is beyond me. You can literally
a) ROLL THROUGH his attacks
b) roll away from his attacks
c) block one or two then bail
Also Fromsoft still purposely gives bosses huge blindspots during combos to make them less of a chore, the only exception being Champ Gundyr. He's a champ tho
>>335011557
>get horse kicked in the chest every time
It drives me nuts, but I strangely enjoy how powerful the kick feels.
I can't wait until all the faggot scrubs either quit or cheat their way through this game and get it over with so all of these "waaah i cant beat this boss its too hard" threads stop.
>>335011648
It's a bit weird when he does it behind him and you're in front, though.
>>335010543
>no shame
Pathetic.
>>335010996
Maining that rapier to get as much items as possible on my first playthrough, gonna max farron meme sword & dark sword for pvp and w/e I want after that for fun.
>>335006085
>tfw people make fun of other people for blocking when they parry
>yeah this boss is so easy, just parry
>yeah this boss is so easy, just use a shield and block
both are the exact same thing if you ask me, both of them invalidate difficulty
>>335008789
This is why the Souls series needs to stop, it's gone on long enough that there are no more surprises, everyone is familiar with hugging bosses and dodging in specific directions and all the skills you need to deal with regular encounters. Fromsoft needs to move on and start a fresh IP.
>>335001982
you can't
>>334992908
>>334992579
How do you no attunement fags play the game? You never use any weapon arts at all? You spam R1 all game?
>>335013278
There was quite a bit in DaS3 that's surprised me, then again I didn't play DaS2 or BB.
>>334989852
Holy shit I went to high school with this girl.
>>335002919
"CLEARLY"
>>334988443
Yeah, I imagine if there's a wall even veterans of the series are gonna hit, it's gonna be this guy. He can be beat, though, keep at it. Remember, each death just adds that much more to the triumph when you finally beat the fucker.
>>335013864
I'm a shitter at these games and I beat him on third try, only died less to the Deacons and the tutorial boss
I'm enjoying someone on twitch losing their shit at this boss because MUH BLIND RUN rules and not getting gud
cool fight though, hate that the weapon you get from his soul sucks a million dicks
>>334988443
- He's weak to thrust damages
- It's easier than it looks to stay in his back straffing while he attacks, don't chain roll
- The ghost telegraphs his attacks in phase 2
- He's 2-3 times less aggresive in phase two
If you still can't beat him :
- You can summon a NPC
- You can parry him and counter his ass
- You can_________git gud_____
>>334988443
Killed him about one hour ago, shit was intense.
Rolling away from him or even to the side is almost suicide, always roll towards.and find opportunities to move to his back, depending on your elevation his and backstab attacks will miss, actually, using my mace R2 lowered my hurtbox low enough that many of his attacks completely missed, hope it helps.
This games PvP is fucking garbage.
Longswords need a hard nerf, literally every faggot is some moron with a quality build R1 spamming Dark Sword.
>Summon some garbage Dark Spirit
>Retard with the Dark Sword
>Just upgraded the dancers dual sword so I want to try them out.
>They literally do no damage despite saying their damage is 627
>The weapon art does next to no damage and is useless
>Meanwhile this faggot is spamming R1 and nearly killing me
>Chug, switch to my +10 Refined Dark Sword and kill him in 3 hits
PvP is the worst of any souls game, which is a shame because I really like the game.
>>335010034
I do, no summons either. Wrecking niggas with my Exiled GS.
I admit I gave up and used a shield against Pontiff though
>>334988443
What the fuck is CHampion Gundyr weakness? People say its bleeding, but I cant get him to bleed even with a weapon that causes it. What the fuck. Im so tired of fighting this piece of shit
>Tfw beating him with slow as fuck UGS
Felt good
>>335014734
Those guys who spam R1 are very easy to deal with, but the problem is that the ones who use weapon arts spam it all day as well, so in the end, almost no one provides me with a decent challenge in this game, its always the same, bait, punish, chase and finish off.
I use a big two hander by the way, and nobody, I mean, nobody ever remembers that poise exists when you swing a two hander.
PvP is only fun for me when I invade 1v3 and have to be creative in order to kill the host and his phantoms.
REAL OST RIP WHEN
>>334992408
>fuck you, you're not playing a video game the way I say so! REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>calling other people cancer
So much cringe in one post.
>>335015176
Which weapon do you use? I love big weapons but they just seem too easy to counter in this game. I've got the Profaned Greatsword at +5 and while it does fucking insane damage it's a bit slow so I was thinking about getting the Exile Greatsword to +10 and slapping on a Refined Gem.
>>335014734
The worst problem I've been having has been invincible invaders. Seems to happen at least 50% of the time, I literally can't hit them. It seems like some weird de-sync issue. Also I have cross-region turned off.
>>334988443
Beat him on my 6th try solo with giant machete on sub 20 fps because my rig isn't even minimal requirements worthy. If I had 30+ fps I would 've finished him on my 3rd try for sure. Fucking scrubs.
>>335015337
Vordt Great Hammer +6 atm.
Literally just hit the air in front of them from a safe distance once, 90% of them will move in and start spamming R1 when they see it happen, so just swing again, you will get hit once, maybe twice, 90% of the population uses a straight sword, and those don't do much poise damage, so you will hit them once, and then be able to hit then once more, which will probably almost kill, then you chase them and use your R2, charge it slightly to delay the hit so you can hit him just after his roll ends, this part can be tricky because of the lag, but you will be doing it so many times that you will start getting good at it.
>>334998749
dancer is much easier than him.
>>335009760
>playing pure faith, all damage basically came from lightning Halberd +7
>whopping 90 damage per hit
Eventually I just grabbed the sunlight straight sword and threw blessed weapon on it. Took 2 tries after that
>>335015669
*+5
>>334990462
No that's Aldrich.
>>334999791
That's measuring of autism not skill.
>>334992561
Died four times because that stupid bird takes too many estus.
fift time I had him to 10%, got greedy and he stomped my shit in.
So now I'm just being angry.
Is it me or are longsword type weapons so fucking good right now?
>>334988443
He reminded me of the Darklurker.
I managed to kill him on my second try with no summons, but i had no estus left and was one bitchslap away from dying.
I think the "problem" with DaS3 is that people are relying too much on shileds and phantoms instead of getting gud. I mean for fucks sake, i dont think ive ever lost a 1v1 invasion so far, and im not even good at the game.
>>335014846
His weakness is getting parried. Lightning Is also good when he's standing in water.
>>335016751
yeah, there's no reason to use anything else if you're a minmax faggot
>defend/dogde
>mash R1 for the next 20 years
>still uses less stamina than a greatsword combo while dealing more damage
>>335017523
longsword r1 spam is so retardedly powerful in this game right now, I refuse to ever use a longsword because I'd feel like a massive faggot
>>335014846
>>335011371
>mfw I just beat him
Feels good
>>334988443
I don't get this meme. I charged this guy with an estoc and murdered the shit out of him. He dodged into a corner and just ate it until he died. Is the second phase really that bad? I don't think he ever did it for me.
>>334988443
tfw accidentally summoned the NPC girl and killed this boss first try.
I think I should start summoning people if the game's gonna continue being a shitter and throw multiple enemies at me on a boss.
