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I'm a casual who wants to buy a prebuilt desktop and wants to run just about every Wii/gamecube and PS2 games in HD. Does this seem more than enough for what I want it to do?
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-x8900-3756BLK-Desktop-Generation-GeForce/dp/B016IH06H0?ie=UTF8&colid=187YPYZPOYRH7&coliid=I123IU1USIQ817&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl
>>334981941
The graphics card is a bit too week for emulation but the cpu and ram are actually more than enough.
>>334983896
Should I go for it and just replace the graphics card in the future?
>he buys prebuilt
>>334984571
I never bought a computer before. I'll admit I'm new and want to go the pussy's way into it.
>>334984453
>http://www.amazon.com/Dell-x8900-3756BLK-Desktop-Generation-GeForce/dp/B016IH06H0?ie=UTF8&colid=187YPYZPOYRH7&coliid=I123IU1USIQ817&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_ttl
Its up to you. It would be fairly easy and for emulation either a something like a gtx960 or r9380 would be perfect and only set you back around $200, and until then the gt 745 will probably let you run most of the emulated games but just not at the ideal settings.
>>334984950
Do you think it will run lets say the Ace Combat PS2 games or F-Zero GX at higher than native resolution with relative ease?
>>334984790
You could learn it in under 20 minutes. I'm borderline retarded and even I figured it out. Recommending you to look into it, if only to save you $100-200 in the long run
>>334984790
Actual assembly of a computer is a fucking breeze if you're not retarded. The hardest part is cable management.
>>334985261
I don't know about ace combat as I have not tried emulating it. However I would be surprised if with the 745 it ran F-Zero GX at full speed at a high resolution. The problems with its performance are well documented and I can personally say it is a performance hog in comparison to most Gamecube games.
>>334985347
I got $1000 to burn. $100 isn't setting me back much. I know it's as easy as putting together Lego's, but I like everything so simplified and already done for me. I want everything already put together when I get it. I've been spoiled by consoles for the past 25 years. I know's it's simple and easy, I just want to be a pussy about it.
>>334985680
Then that prebuilt probably does the trick (tho at sub-60fps). Try to find one with a better GPU than a 745 I guess?
>>334985680
That's fine you should do what you want with your money. If the pre-built experience is preferable to the diy experience and worth the cost then buy pre-built.
>>334981941
you can always upgrade to 920GTX if your bored of emulation i cant see the motherboard but you can also upgrade RAM later if needed but you shouldn't really need to too badly with what your doing
>>334985861
he can probably pull some decent fps it wont be too taxing on a 700 series if its just retro gaming
>>334985680
I should point out that you should check the power requirements and the psu if you upgrade the graphics card to make sure that the psu can power the new graphics card before you make that purchase.
>>334986181
>Wii
>retro
>>334986279
looking at the price of 600 watt power supplies, they don't seem that expensive. So that doesn't seem like it would be a problem when I want to upgrade.
A friend told me that a lot of pre-builts have low quality fans. Is that true?
>>334981941
you can buy part "combos" at newegg that are a full pc, you just gotta put it all together. I was nervous building my own computer because I didnt know what parts/brands/specific technical shit wouldnt work together. putting all the pieces in the case wasnt hard at all though
>>334986847
FYI pcpartpicker.com has a compatibility check.
I knew nothing about PCs and just built my first one a month ago. It's a bit nerve-wracking having hundreds of dollars of electronics to fuck up but it was easy to assemble and get running in a couple hours.
Just don't be like me and buy a non-modular PSU,
>>334986756
Well it's not just pre-builts if you build your own pc but use the fans that came included with the case they're still not going to be good. But the fans shouldn't be so bad as to cause a problem. They just won't be the quietest or longest lasting but they should be fine.
>>334981941
get the i5 model and use the extra $200 to get a GPU
>>334986847
or do this, it's what I did with my first build when I had no idea what I was doing
>>334987173
>Just don't be like me and buy a non-modular PSU,
This. Don't do it. 3 years later and my cable management is still garbage. Thankfully I went budget so it's not like my build creates shitloads of heat.
Never cheap on your power supply. Most important component. Spend good on it.
Also, OP you're a faggot don't do it. Just build your baby. It's yours. Don't let someone else do it. It cheapens the feel of it.
My Phenom 965 is still holding the gates. Upgraded from an old 6850 to a 4GB 370 I got on sale. Doubles performance and it's still fucking consoles specs out the ass.
Don't be a pussy.
>>334987815
But I want to be a pussy.
Not OP but. Question. Should I get an AMD cpu or an Intel CPU?
I have a low budget. Like $700 low but my PC is REALLY old. It has a GTS 440 for crying out loud. I don't know if I should use a chunk of my money on an i5 or just get an AMD cpu and get a better gpu like a 760.
>>334988184
OP here, you think your computer is old? I'm still using my laptop I bought from 8 years ago which was lo end even when I bought it.
>>334988184
Are you going to do work on it? If yes get an Intel.
Or are you just going to play games? If yes get whatever the hell you want or what works in you budget. Also check for features on the mother board that are compatible for you cpu to see which features you need/want. This may be a deciding factor for you.
>>334988340
My PC is 10 years old. Probably stronger than your laptop but it's depressing to talk about. It has 3 GB DDR2 RAM and intel dualcore 2.8GHz cpu.
>>334988470
I'm a total newbie when it comes to building PCs. How do I check what mother board is compatible to the CPU I want to buy? And for work, are you talking about stuff like compiling and other things?
>>334988184
Intel. Just do it. I love AMD to death and wish they'd do better but in the CPU market Intel is simply better.
AMD's only benefit is if you already own one of their old motherboards since they're all compatible.
Their Phenom line was the last of their great legacy. Even some of the cheapest of Intel CPUs shit all over AMD's supposed flagship chips plus they outperform heat-wise.
I only stick with AMD because I'm stuck with their motherboard and don't feel like doing a new build. Thank you based Phenom 965.
>>334988578
Would any power supply work with any computer I get?
>>334988578
Use pcpartpicker to check to see if all the parts are compatible with one another.
>>334988578
One way to check compatibility is pc part picker the other is seeing what socket the cpu/mother board is. And for work I meant anything that is would require performance. For instance graphic design, some coding projects, running VMs, video editing, etc. If you do something that you think needs snappy performance than you go Intel.
>>334988859
For the most part yes with very few exceptions but check with pc partpicker to make sure and also check reviews on the power supply as they can fry your system if you cheap out on them. Also if you can afford the extra cost get a modular power supply.
>>334988712
>>334988882
>>334988920
Well alright. Unfortunately for me I do coding projects so intel it is. Is an i5 enough or do I have to go for an i7 if I want to keep the pc going for a long time without needing to upgrade again? Also, what's with the numbers after each processor? Like i5-4460
>>334988859
You might be able to use a PSU from a previous build. But it depends on the new parts you get and if that psu is enough juice for them. Personally, I'd get a new psu
>>334981941
>a casual who wants to buy a prebuilt desktop
Stick to consoles where you belong.
>>334989116
For games an i5 should be fine. What kinda projects do you do typically and are they highly threaded or require a lot of simultaneous processes.
>>334989271
Please play nice. We all start off as casuals.
Anyone have the infographic of what mice to get (or can give suggestions)?
>>334989271
I've never even bought a computer before. I'm figuratively virgin at this.
>>334981941
>prebuilt.
Show yourself out.
>>334989578
Buying pre-built is the same as buying console.
>>334987173
Its actually really hard to break anything. You need to be a fuckin brute ape to bend some pins in a CPU. If you do everything patiently and slow is impossible to fuck up.
Is Amazon good for buying parts?
>>334987815
mfw i live in a poor shit country and the best PSU i could find in my whole city is just mid tier.
Will my PC explode ?
>>334989521
Dude that is literally the hardest question in this thread but here you go.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G600-Gaming-Mouse-White/dp/B0086UK7I6/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461207578&sr=1-3&keywords=logitech+g600s
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Adjustable-Weight-Tuning/dp/B00CJD4HD2/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461207578&sr=1-4&keywords=logitech+g600s
http://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ergonomic-Optical-Gaming/dp/B0046Y0Y20/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461207725&sr=1-1&keywords=NAOS+3200
>>334989849
Yeah, I realized. Still just wore at my nerves though.
>prebuilt
Kill yourself asap
>>334989969
If you already no what you doing Amazon is fine. But if not use pc partpicker.
>>334989521
Deathader Chroma, Roccat Kone Pure or Zowie EC-2A
All great, check videos, matter of taste.
>>334987173
This.
First time dealing with those hundreds dollars electronic was nerve-wracking as shit.
Until you realized that they are actually pretty durable and could actually apply some force on it.
>>334981941
Don't buy an XPS of any kind. Actually don't buy any dell computer ever.
My parents bought one for my graduation and it is fucking terrible.
>>334989969
Hell yeah.
Don't make a mistake like me.
>>334989116
The numbers following the are the specific model number. What is more important though is the k which indicates that the processor can be over clocked and if that is important to you then you want to get a processor with a k.
>>334990617
>buying a 770 when a 390 is cheaper
Fucking why?
>>334990683
Because AMD gpus scare me. Don't they have really bad heat issues or incompatibility with some games?
>>334990663
If I don't care about overclocking, then one without a k is fine, right? Do games even need cpus to overclock to play them perfectly?
>>334990869
Still doesn't make sense. You can get GTX 970 at that price.
>>334990683
That's an old image from several years ago.
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/desktops/hp-envy-750se-desktop-n3g97av-aba-1
"SPRING2016" coupon code
thank me with tits
>>334990869
No, you dumbass, that's all memes. AMD CPUs have some issues with emulation but their modern GPUs are all good. Even older Nvidia products like the 480 could start house fires, it wasn't an AMD-only problem.
>>334990980
I was told the last two digits are the most important numbers for the gpu. The first is just the series. Is 900 betterthan 700? I see 780 costing a LOT more than 970
>>334990869
Heat shouldn't be a problem with amd gpus as long as the case has good airflow and you get a card with aftermarket cooler (not the default amd cooler). Also any card you get might run into a compatibility issue so going nvidia won't necessarily save you.
>>334991093
Well, what case would you recommend I should get? Every case I see always advertises "good airflow" but I'm skeptical.
Well, since your budget seems to be about 1k dollars...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fg28RB
>>334990869
No, all that shit's a meme. AMD has improved the heat generation of their products a lot since the 200 series. They don't have incompatability with games, either. In fact, they outperform NVIDIA on some games. Specifically The Division, Farcry Primal, and the new Hitman, and I think the 390 edges out the 970 in Rise of the Tomb Raider as well.
>>334991035
>http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/desktops/hp-envy-750se-desktop-n3g97av-aba-1
Thank this man, senpai.
>>334991087
Not entirely accurate, but should give you rough idea.
Also newer gen card usually came with newer tech that might help with performance in new games.
>>334991240
What form factor do you want?
Atx - full/midtower
Matx - smaller but not too small
itx - really small
>>334991240
NZXT S340
>>334991308
>970 outperforming 390 by a large margin
Kek, they're about neck and neck, and the 390 does better in some instances.
>>334990628
What happened here?
>>334991308
why is the titan so expensive if the 980 ti overpowers it
>>334991379
I'm not entirely sure what form factor means. But if I get a large case would there be a problem of it being too big or something?
>>334991241
Well, I'm on a $700 budget so I don't think I can get the 390. Nor a 970. If my plan was getting a 760, should i just go for a 290 or something instead?
>>334991606
There would be a problem of it being to big if you need something smaller but most people don't have problems with the size of an ATX mid-tower.
>>334991603
Newer gen vs Older gen.
>>334991493
mITX, not even once.
>>334991603
The titan has more compute power and twice the ram. It really isn't a good choice for games but for certain applications or edge cases it is worth it.
>>334991603
Titans are those specialty "I'm doing CAD work" situations where those fancy features of the Titan are needed.
>>334991462
390 seems to be decently ahead of the 970 at this point, maybe on launch the 970 was faster but AMD drivers have improved a lot in the past 6 or so months
>>334991606
Form factor is the size of the device from big to small. ATX Full Tower, ATX Mid Tower, M-ATX, ITX
>>334981941
That's a ripoff op. I made this for 760
>>334992071
>The titan has more compute power
The titan has twice the vram. That's really it. It's not even ideal for computation anymore. They downgraded the floating point numbers on the titan X. (vs last generation).
>>334992812
Pre-builts cost more than diy and some of your specs are lower than the one he is looking at.
>>334981941
I have the EXACT same prebuilt OP don't fall for this fucking meme
>>334992953
>Pre-builts cost more than diy
Functionally no they aren't.
I've done the comparisons at Microcenter in the US. All you're getting is more pcie slots and a slightly better certified PSU if you build your self. None of these are noticeable by 95% of the average braindead gamer.
>>334992952
While it is much less pronounced compared to the previous generations (as you point out). The Titan x still has more cores than the 980 ti. 3072 in the titan x compared to the 2816 in the 980 ti. So while it is less there is a difference.
>>334993057
What do you mean.? The meme that pre-builts are the worst thing ever? What exactly are you saying?
>>334991308
so is this telling me that the GTX 970 is the fucking tits?
Cause that looks like the GTX 970 is the fucking tits.
>>334993312
I own GTX 970 and I would say R9 390 would be a better choice at this point.
>>334994102
sorry thats kinda what I was getting at.
390 seems to be the best mid-budget card.
but what's the best budget card?
>>334991035
>>334991273
seriously, the only thing more you could want would be for water cooling. i'm going to be returning the nearly exact same one i bought last month (arrived last week) just for the 600W PSU which they just added as an option - previously the only questionable part of this deal was the max 500W PSU. now that they've fixed that, this is an absolute no-brainer.
>>334993312
I own one and it's great but as >>334994102 has mentioned, benchmarks for recent games show it getting beat by the R9 390.
>>334994267
is it still cheaper than the 390 though?
my family owns a few businesses. i have a prebuilt there that my mom bought. i can just attach a graphics card, right?
>>334993206
>970 build prebuilt for under $1000
kek
>>334995134
If you have a pcie slot open and space for a dual slot card. Which you should.
>>334995134
Also check if your psu has enough power.
>>334994221
Not a bad build for 1400.
Must be a glitch.
>Prebuilt High End Computer
Please stop. For crying out loud Logical Increments made buying parts as fool proof as it possibly can be. A monkey can build a PC, it's basically the easiest task and should only take an afternoon to do.
>>334995762
That pc is not necessarily a glitch but that cable management is.
The biggest problems with pre-builts are as follows:
>cases with next to no fans and ventilation are terrible at displacing heat
>any component no actively advertised by name (psu, mobo, drives, storage) will be as cheap as possible
>companies are paid to install resource-leeching bloatware that you'll not only never use, but will undermine and eventually choke your PCs performance
The last one especially is responsible for why most people think once-fast computers naturally degrade over time.
The corporations that install it not only get paid for forcing it on you, but can look forward to selling you another pc in a couple of years when basic tasks on the first one take minutes to accomplish no matter how much anti-malware you run.
If that doesn't bother you then have a fucking blast with a machine thats inferior to begin with and has the life expectancy of a terminal cancer patient because you didnt want to spend an evening putting one together once.
Not even mad if you do, you'll get what you deserve.
>spending more than 700 just for gaming
i spent 500
>>334996481
nigga a decent graphics card is like half that
opinions on radeon R9 270x?
>>334995762
>one exhaust fan behind the cpu
>intake vents on front buried under plastic paneling solely for aesthetics
My last pc was an HP Envy/Phoenix whatever exactly like this.
My asus gtx660ti would roast in that chassis at factory clock, would throttle a couple of minutes into Battlefield 3 and especially during benchmarks.
Not to mention the EXTREMELY negative air pressure managed to stick so much dust up inside the tower that I think it was borrowing some from my neighbors house. One month without blasting it out would cause a luxurious gray carpet to form and cling to the jagged metal tabs everywhere.
Computers are stupidly easy to build.
It's like fucking lego.
>>334990445
So because your parents bought one bad dell computer, all dell computers are bad? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
assembling a desktop is really easy anon
just take it slow and be gentle with everything
think of it as an expensive puzzle. it's all just plugging in parts
>>334996769
not that powerful but should be good enough for most games on medium-high at 1080p
i'd go for a better card if i were you
Buy a refurb with an i3-5-7 for 300 dollars then put a gtx 750 innit. You could even get the desktop for free if you are persistent and ask enough businesses for their old computers.
>>334997264
Holy shit, almost forgot the best part:
The mobo is fixed on the opposite side of the case compared to conventional builds.
This means the mobo is inverted and the gpu faced upward as a result.
So the graphics card was exhausting all its heat upward into the cheapo psu's intake fan and I had to replace it in a couple of months when it eventually just started black-screening past a certain threshold of power draw. I'd see maybe 10 seconds of graphically intensive vidya before it died without fail.
And when replacement psu came in, there were no cable management options since they relied on a custom psu having near-exact size cables, so even a modular psu was a fucking spaghetti monster that spilled out the side.
It was literally less trouble to build a new pc from scratch a few years ago than it was to keep that HP on its legs.
