SMRPG was really weird compared to the other Mario RPGs
because it wasn't made by nintendo
It is also the best one.
That's why it's my favorite. The visuals are really unique for Mario as well, and the music is pretty top notch. No other game has shit like Booster's Tower.
How is it, compared to Superstar Saga and the Paper Marios? Always been meaning to try, but it looks like it aged poorly
>>334979326
Super Mario RPG has always been considered the best Mario RPG. Unfortunately we won't ever get another one like it.
>>334978978
Squaresoft game. Back when they printed money.
>>334979326
Play it on a CRT with a SNES flashcart.
Personally, as much as I love SuperStar Saga, I would put Paper Mario 1+2 and SMPRG on their own tier.
Then SuperStar Saga its own tier and onward with the other games.
SPM was the weirdest
> sweatshop mansion
>raiding an otaku's house
>Mimi
>Outhouse in space
>Fuedal Japan levels goes kaboom
>literally get sent to hell
>very elaborate story and lore for a simplistic Mario game
>>334979326
They sacrificed story for game play and just make up campy shit that fits with the Mario motiff.
>>334979641
And it worked fucking beautifully.
Enix and Squaresoft both used to be fantastic, then it's like they did the fusion dance wrong and we ended up with a fat gotenks of a company.
The humor in this game is still hilarious.
>kid makes fun of Mario
>Mallow has to hold Mario back from punching the kid
>the funny dances Mario does to communicate to people
>everything Booster does
>>334979326
>but it looks like it aged poorly
Not at all, unless you're an intolerable graphics whore.
>>334979484
>>334979560
K, downloading now. Just gonna emulate it with a decent filter, but you guys got my hopes up. I played some of the DS Mario rpgs, but nothing ever came close to TTYD
>rented this on a whim at hollywood video
>boxart looked fucking sick
>pop it in expecting mario bros 3D clay edition
>you start the fucking game fighting bowser
>holy fucking shit
>"The chain Mario, hit the chain!!!"
>Mario and Bowser start fighting on falling chandeliers and it's somehow funny and epic simultaneously
>then a fucking talking sword falls from the sky
>"Super Mario RPG: Legend of The Seven Stars"
>mfw
>>334979484
>Always been considered the best
>MUH GENO
Game was good, better then most to be honest. It had its moments, characters and story were rememberable, combat was fun and simple, and the visuals helped it stand out. m&l:sss kicked the shit out if it. Gameplay is simple and goes more complex, bossbattles ranged from simple to stressful, even some items like peppers let you do a hugh risk high reward style gameplay. The story was about on par with 7stars, and both games had great music. Id vote for SSS being the best because its combat was very involving and pretty punishable in consideration to nintendo standards. That being said SSS doesnt have shit on the bird tits.
Release on n3ds when?
>>334979782
>Mallow has to hold Mario back from punching the kid
I remember this but i dont remember when exactly
what kid? geno's owner?
>>334980182
Nintendo has a contract with an outsourced developer that won't let them ever port / make an HD of this game, sadly
>>334980369
Yeah, pretty sure that's it. Haven't played the game in a long time though.
>>334979560
>SNES flash cart
smrpg has a special graphics chip and may not work
>>334980369
>>334980427
Found a vid where someone added stupid music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb66V4UQOLA
>>334978978
Game had the best side characters and enemies
>Croco
>Bowyer
>Booster
>Johnny Jones
>Axem Rangers
>Valentina
>none of them will ever be in a Mario game again
>>334979326
>games
>aging
No such thing.
>>334980640Not remembering punchinello was a joke, right?
>>334978978
That's why it was so good. The weirdness.
>>334980110
>mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocAJZWp40Y8
that Bowser theme from SMB3 got me really hard, and that was just the beginning of the game
>>334980096
It's fucking adorable.
>>334979776
Enix was never more than a publishing company. All the merger really did was make Enix the publishing branch of Square. Square went downhill on their own, it had nothing to do with the merger.
And Squaresoft was just the US branch. The only game they ever madr was Secret of Evermore.
>>334979560
Impossible, SMRPG uses the Super Accelerator chip.
It's also been $50-$60 minimum for years on eBay.
>>334980110
>swords fall
>shadowy letters appear
>the end?
>SUPER MARIO RPG
I always liked how it was supposed to say the end
BUT IT WASNT
TTYD > SMRPG > PM > BIS > SSS > PJ > DT > PIT > SPM > SS
Fight me.
>>334981327
I didn't much care for SMRPG but I respect your opinionHUG ME FGT
>>334981327
agreed until BIS
>>334981148
Unopened copies go for almost 1k from what I've seen.
>>334980163
I just played SSS about a year or two ago and I've forgotten pretty much everything about it besides this boss that was actually somewhat challenging. Too bad the game ended thereafter.
>saw this game in my friend's SNES. Didn't even know what it was, but the cover looked cool
>A few weeks later saw it at the local entertainment exchange and picked it up on a whim
holy shit my mind was blown
>>334981327
Gameplay wise, sure, pretty much agree everywhere.
Story/writing? gonna need to boost spm waaaay up there.
>>334980163
>using geno
He was quite literally the worst character.
Mallow had dem sweet techs and plot relevant backstory
Peach had dem sweet techs and high defense
Bowser is bowser
Mario is forced
Geno has hand cannon 1-5 as techs, whoopidy doo, who the fuck cares.
>>334981951
typically you discuss gameplay in a video game first, yes
>>334981919
Gorgeous. Is that just a mockup, or is there an actual filter for VBA that does this?
>>334982003
>mario game
>not just picking the coolest partners
look at this guy
>>334978978
Weird how Paper Mario was more "Mario-y" despite the only difference was that Super Mario 64 being released.
My first RPG. The start of it all.
>>334982020
But it's an rpg, roleplaying is two thirds of the name, and some of the mario RPG's have some fantastic writing.
>>334980384
Is a virtual console release not considered a port?
Wii u port when
>>334982003
look at this optimizer no fun faggot
this has the best peach in any mario game
you can even find her PANTIES
>>334981646
Unopened is worth about $400-$600.
>>334979326
If you want an opinion from someone who didn't play it growing up, yes it aged somewhat poorly as far as RPGs go. Missable content reliant on a 10 second section, slower combat especially for bosses, you need to grind a bit to really be on even footing and Culix most certainly requires grinding to beat.
But, it's an RPG, even when they age poorly they're still fun, they're just not as simplistic and user friendly as something like Paper Mario or Mario & Luigi is. It has timed hits but succeeding or failing them is not so visually responsive at first. You'll get used to it, and it's still just timing based you just don't get as much visual feedback from it is all.
Honestly, it's a pain to play it on an emulator though. It just feels a lot more natural to play it on a controller and more enjoyable, but that could just be me being weird.
All in all it's great/10, play it. If you can get over it lacking some of the more refined and user friendly stuff from newer games you will love it.
>>334982116
>>334982003
>I AM SILLY
Geno is the 2nd best chracter, fuckwit.
Best physical and magical , best speed, 2nd best group clear (after mallow). and Geno Boost
His weakness are having a low defense and no heals, but sicne you can literally git gud and block almost every single instance of damage with Timed hits, it's a non issue.
The fact you rank him last kinda point out to you being shit at the game, which is expected for retard with no taste
>>334982003
I'm not a Genofag but you're lying yourself if you say Geno is the worst. Geno Boost and Geno Whirl are broken as fuck.
Also
>not liking hand cannons
>>334982318
thought it was her dildo
>>334982315
>mallow isent fun
>bowser isent fun
>mario isent required
Yah, shooting with your lazors sure is super fun.
>>334982374
>>334982407
You find Birdo's vibrator in Captain Rainbow.
>>334982003
But Geno had that OHKO move if you didn't suck
>>334982424
It actually is.
>>334982228
in SPM's case it's an abysmal game first, with an anime plot second
>>334982640
>move did not work on any bosses but exor
Whooooooooooooooo cares.
>>334979043
Yes it was
The team was made up of Squaresoft and Nintendo staff
The Nintendo part eventually form Intelligent Systems, the Square part went on to form Alphadream.
>>334978978
Super Mario RPG was the first JRPG I ever played.
I remember my brother introduced me to it when we were younger and all we had was an old computer. I thought it was magic when he was able to play all these old NES and SNES games on a PC, and I remember when he sat me down to play Super Mario RPG for the first time.
We played through it together all the way through over a week, and I remember getting stuck a lot and needing him to help out with most of the bosses, but it was still fun.
He practiced the Super Jump so many times so he could get me the Super Suit because I really wanted it.I miss him.
The Culex fight is still one of my favorites in any RPG.
>dat FF IV boss theme remix
>>334982732
>The Nintendo part eventually form Intelligent Systems
Then who was making Fire Emblem for the last 10 years or so?
>>334982874
or I should say it drew on IS staff and they were reabsorbed after
Paper Mario was originally titled SMRPG 2
>>334982732
Intelligent Systems existed before this game you narrative molding dingus.
>>334982716
It made grinding for Culex easy, so
I remember getting max level (what was it, 30?) by the sunken ship area because I was too retarded to do the puzzles to figure out the password
PEARLS
>>334979627
And there was that time Mario died.
Straight up fucking died.
Yeah Super Paper Mario was just plain weird.
>>334978978
I didn't like Paper Mario. I wanted a fun weird adventure with crazy characters outside of established Mario lore and instead got Literally Mario: The RPG. Want a cool story? Peach gets kidnapped by Bowser. Want cool party members? Have a fucking Bob-omb and one of those shitty spark faggots from SMW. Want cool music? HAH.
Paper Mario took everything that was special and unique about MRPG and threw it out the window because Nintendo stopped wanting to make interesting Mario games in 1996.
>>334983276
I loved Mario rpg because it didn't feel like a Mario game. It felt like an rpg featuring Mario characters. Paper Mario felt like a Mario game with rpg elements
>>334982997
>>334982938
>>334982732
I don't remember noticing anyone from the Square side in the SMRPG credits being in the PM credits, while a good chunk of AD members that made Mario & Luigi were also credited in SMRPG.
>>334983276
The change from SMRPG to PM is the same as from SPM to Sticker Star. Restarting from a clean state, making the story & gameplay more simple, new graphics direction, pretty much all new staff.
Difference is that PM1 is a good game and Sticker Star is mediocre.
>>334983276
>Want cool music? HAH.
nigger what
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4chT13EKL9I
There really isn't another game that plays like Paper, the way all the stats come down to single integers and the way that combat plays out on a 2D plane make it pretty unique.
SMRPG was amazing game, but the combat was pretty much just dragon quest with a few tweaks.
So what teams did everyone use, anyway?
My partners were Peach and Mallow/Geno
>>334982938
>>334982732
The first Mario themed RPG IS worked on was Paper Mario, not SMRPG. After parting ways with Square, Nintendo teamed with IS to make their next Mario rpg, which is the only reason it was going to be called SMRPG2. Not because IS had anything to do with the first game.
SMRPG was developed primarily by Square under Miyamoto's supervision, with some help from a general team of Nintendo employees also under Miyamoto.
IS is not part of Nintendo and never has been. They just work with Nintendo. Just like Monolith, Hal/Game Freak and several others.
Half of Nintendo's signature franchises aren't even Nintendo. It's actually pretty funny.
>>334983943
Bowser+Geno because I'm not a pussy-footing heals-needing faggot.
>>334983943
Either Mario geno bowser
Or Mario peach mallow
There was also a big fallout over profits of this game. Nintendo were being massive jews over Squarenix. This led to Squarenix moving to PS1 instead of N64. And a huge chunk of snes fans also moved to PS1 because of their love for Squarenix's jrpgs.
I love how peach straight broke this game in half.
Group hug/therapy/comeback/healing ailments/lazy shell armor, saftey ring, that fucking frying pan of destruction.
>>334979782
Booster and the Snifits were great
I always look forward to that part of the game
>>334983943
First run was Mario Peach Geno. I fucked up everything that time because I gave all the lvl ups to HP.
>>334984106
Don't lie, the game is impossible without constant healing for certain bosses.
>>334978978
Man FUCK that cake. The only worse boss was the 1v1 with Johnny.But also /fuck/ that cake, you know which one I'm talking about.
It's weird how heavily SMRPG replies on original content.
I don't think there's even any reason for some of the bosses to be there, they just are.
>>334982003
>not abusing that speed
>not abusing geno whirl and boost
>not giving him a feather to stop that random camo shyguy from running away in the sewers
Honestly if you had to rank the character in terms of usefulness,
Mario(duh)
Peach
Geno
Mallow
Bowser
>>334984319
I've always hated using lazy shell. It cuts your damage by a huge chunk and even Peach heals less with it on. Peach is actually does fairly decent damage once you get her that frying pan. Even less reason to put on that lazy shell for me.
>>334984438
>But also /fuck/ that cake, you know which one I'm talking about.I don't
>>334984418
Not really. If you give all the Lvl up boosts to atk/def to mario/bowser and the spec. to Mallow/Peach/Geno the game is a fucking joke
>>334984657
Group hug still heals max health usually. Lazy shell was mostly for the secret boss.
>>334984724
>If you give all the Lvl up boosts to atk/def to mario/bowser and the spec. to Mallow/Peach/Geno the game is a fucking joke
Bull fucking shit. Don't lie, there are a number of bosses that just has way too much health and does massive damage. You'd be dead many times over if you don't heal. No matter how many times you spec attack/def, it just isn't enough to outlast those bosses without healing.
>>334984656
>star rain is utterly broken when you figure out the timing to get 17 bounces
I think you have put mallow way way way too low.
>>334981482
FOR THE GREAT BEYOND
>>334984438
Pretty sure everyone agrees Yaridovich was the worst boss.
>>334984658
There was an anon that drew the SMRPG cake boss as a fuckable woman. Or maybe I'm thinking of a Save the Princess thread where they turned a cake into a fuckable woman. Not sure now.
>>334985042WATER BLAST
>>334984418
Not him but I used Bowser/Geno too my first playthrough
>>334980110
This
>mfw Midas River
>>334982856
>Super Suit
What a fucking legend
>>334985147
And I bet you probably had a shitload of pickmeups for every single boss.
>>334983190
My sister's friend told me what it was as a kid. To this day I feel stupid and cheated for not figuring it out on my own.
>>334985270
I don't really remember much of the game actually since I've only played it once ever. Beat Smithy but I don't think I beat the tiny dojo guy or the guy named after a mosquito. Maybe I should replay it since I already replay Paper Mario every few years or so.
>>334984984
Don't get me wrong I don't think mallow or bowser are bad. it's just that Mario, peach, geno meshed so damn well
>geno boost everybody
>proceed to murder
>heal/revive/mute as needed
Also I find dark star so damn "sexy" as an attack. Hell it's the strongest magic attack in the game.
>>334981327
SSS and SMRPG are both equivalent to TTYd.
>>334984953
Water Blast aside, tell me which other boss is hard enough to fuck you over. You can survive any other attack from bosses. Just change partners whenever you need physical or special resistance. Even if you are slightly low level, powerblast and crystalline exist for a reason
>>334984953
>>334984724
>remembers when he gave every character only hp level ups for the whole game for some asinine reason
None of them would die. Fucking hilarious having everyone with 230+ hp and someone at 255/6 hp
We all can agree that SMRPG is basically the first game in the Paper Mario series, right?
The gameplay, soundtrack, and general atmosphere all feel just like Paper Mario to me.
Mallow's lightning storm was the sexest skill in the game
>>334985042
Fuck this bastard. every boss up to him didn't have nearly as much defense as he did.
>>334984438
It's funny. SMRPG isn't hard but I still remember alot of bosses negatively like I had trouble with them.
Oh and fuck you game cockblocking me when I thought winning Booster's stupid hiding minigame mean't no boss fight.
>Could have had a new RPG collaboration between Nintendo and SquareEnix
>Nope, it's just a surprisingly good game of b-ball instead
>>334982003
Mallow and Bowser, combat-wise, are the worst characters in the game.
Geno's techs are fucking broken and Peach's healing turns the game into baby mode.
>>334985687
>You can survive any other attack from bosses.
The bosses all have more than enough health to last awhile. You WILL have to heal a few times during your fight. Some can even take 60-70% of your health in one turn. You're forced to then heal or the next time he does it, you're dead.
> Just change partners whenever you need physical or special resistance
You can't change characters mid battle.
>>334978978
it has some of the best level design ever
>>334984438
>remembers fighting jinx the first time
That went so well
>attacks suddenly stop doing any kind of damage in the rebattles
.....
>figured out years later that you're SUPPOSED to defend the eggs birdo shoots to make the battle quicker
That literally took forever...but it was fun
>>334984035
Monolith is directly owned by nintendo.
>>334985694
Just giving everyone hp levels up entirely is not enough to survive without healing. Stop pulling shit from your arse.
>>334979304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LCm6tXCLbE
>>334986156
>tfw with hack and given everyone fying pans makes bowser absolutely bonkers
>geno can't use any other weapons aside from his and it freezes the game
I like how the game changes peach's sprites to different colors to match the characters.
>>334985772
Not really. It's more like Paper Mario is IS' SMRPG2 and Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga is AD's SMRPG2.
Funny you'd say the soundtrack, gameplay and atmosphere are more like Paper Mario because most of the staff that makes M&L games has worked on SMRPG, they even share the same composer.
>>334984035
Monolith and Retro are Nintendo subsidiaries now though. As in, they are part of Nintendo.
Question. Did anyone legitimately manage to find grate guy casino without the internet or guide by complete dumb luck/complete accident?
>>334986083
It does though
>>334986502
I've only played through Superstar Saga and Partners in Time, and it's been years since then, so I can't really remember those series too well. That's great though the team still makes games with the universe, SMRPG is fucking phenomenal.
TTYD is better than the first PM though
>>334986184
>You can't change characters mid battle.
Of course not, I meant before the battle depending on which kind of attacks the boss do. For example Punchinello aside from Sandstorm all the attacks are physical. He'll be hitting mario with the bombs for 15dmg (of course you gotta get the timed hits to reduce it) or less by the point you reach him, is not that hard.
>>334986872
Yes. I didn't get the internet until well into adulthood and had a somewhat poor family so most games I got growing up were rpgs and I would explore the shit out of them looking for secrets and glitches. Even with subpar translations back then there were usually ways to figure out almost everything in a game via npcs or the boxes and booklets and such.
![51CH1GNV9ML._AC_UL320_SR256,320_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gU9fcpa.jpg "51CH1GNV9ML._AC_UL320_SR256,320_[1].jpg")
>>334986130
>already make perfect basketball game with mario in it
>make useless DS game
>>334985672
>SSS
ehh
>>334981482
Peach struggling on the chain was hypnotic
>>334982716
>exor
I remember being a kid an being shocked when Geno just OHKO that fucking sword.
I used to play the game with some friends and with took turns each one using one character (I used Geno so I might be biased)...good times.
>>334987243
Aside from some of the sprites looking odd it was an excellent game
>>334987791
>Luigi's hips
>tfw Superstar Saga was the only Mario and Luigi game where the Bros Attacks felt like bros attacks
Why the fuck have they been using the lameass items ever since? Mario and Luigi actually using the same abilities they used to traverse the field to also beat down their opponents was satisfying as fuck.
>>334987791
fuck i can hear the fucking music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOC0ig2Rk1g
>>334986872
Actually, yeah. A friend and I played the absolute shit out of the game together and were constantly trying to one-up each other by finding secrets. He figured out how to get the key, but I was the one that found the actual place. He probably had a guide or something, since he figured out shit like the Sheep Attack. I was still the first one to finish the Toadofsky quest though.
>>334988362
>alternating buttons to keep koopa shells going
>standing on top of each other
Those games felt fucking amazing to play through.
>>334988362
That's what Luiginary attacks are in Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, though.
>>334985772
It's interesting how timed hits have evolved to something that can let you do a little more damage and take a little less damage to something you absolutely have to be able to do to live.
>>334988702
Luiginaary attacks were cool, except for the terrible gyro controls on the first one. All in all I liked DT a little more than BiS.
>>334988410
Such a simplistic song but it's so fucking catchy.
>>334988362
Yeah the bros items are fucking stupid
>>334986927
>Of course not, I meant before the battle depending on which kind of attacks the boss do. For example Punchinello aside from Sandstorm all the attacks are physical. He'll be hitting mario with the bombs for 15dmg (of course you gotta get the timed hits to reduce it) or less by the point you reach him, is not that hard.
And that has nothing to do with your example of switching characters for resistance bullshit.
>>334978978
I could never get into SMRPG compared to the other Mario RPGs, but then I can't playing any game made by Square for more than 2 hours.
Barneyfag didn't catch this bait?
Holy shit
>>334980369
A kid tells Geno to go save the world with Mario because "Mario needs all the help he can get"
Mario then attempts to assault the child
HEY, YOU HEAR ABOUT THAT MARIO GUY?
>>334983943
Mario, Bowser, Geno. My healing consisted of filling my inventory with healing items and Pick Me Ups
>>334985210
WHERE'S MAH SOOPER SOOT?
>>334982371
>you need to grind a bit
super mario rpg is like the easiest jrpg on the planet what are you talking about
>Culix most certainly requires grinding to beat.
you dont have to fight him the first time you go to monstro town
>>334986130
God that game was perfect.
The music was 10/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egn9B37GwpM
>>334980640
>not mentioning DA BES[WATER BLAST]
>>334988809
>luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing.
>>334988809
That's just a different way of handling it though. In TTYD damage was unavoidable if you didn't superguard it.
>>334986479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9ZmOktINI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSjby9Kq7Xc
>>334997553
[tickling intensifies]
>>334985270
>not getting freebies on your kerokero colas
>>334978978
Because it actually fucking tried to be unique and wasnt afraid to introduce new characters. Every single new mario rpg is lame as fuck compared to that one. Why the hell does Bowser need to be the final boss every time ? Fuck. Smithy was pretty good
Chef Torte...!
SMRP was one crazy ass game
1v1 me fgt
I feel like this game had a bad case of "Why the fuck is this a boss here?"
Like seriously you just came off the fight with the Clown Guys and possibly Booster, so they just have the Chefs try to kill you over a failed wedding? Then Star Hill just gives up a Star with not even a fight.
I don't like how dark the game looks. Not the story, just the aesthetic. It just feels really gloomy with all the dark shading and shadows, but this is just a personal preference.
>>334980110
I just had a nostalgia orgasm.
Also this
https://youtu.be/QfXng_kD9ZA
Neo Squid
How would you guys react if Squeenix decided to make a Mario RPG 2?
What would you want to see in it?
>>335003536
gay porn
I can never get used to the combat in this game.
The timing for the attacks feel disconnected and lack impact compared to later Mario RPGs.
It sounds silly, but it's probably because the numbers show up after the animation plays rather than exactly when the character gets hit.
Still a fine game in general though.
>>335003536
Realize I'm dreaming and wake up.
