Damn Nintendo, back at it again with the mediocre exclusives.
>>334959221
Surprising no one
>70
>mediocre
>>334960738
>C grade
>not mediocre
>>334960738
It's a C average.
That is the definition of mediocre.
>>334959221
Hey look, I fixed it.
>>334961636
This is just as pathetic as the fanboys who altered the score for Batman vs Superman on RT so they could feel better about watching it
>>334959221
>damn daniel
jesus fucking christ you seriously might want to kill yourself
>>334961636
GOTYAY
>>334959221
What is it with these games that they can't seem to get them right?
Was Starfox 64 just a happy accident? Even the 3DS version of it is shit.
>>334962114
64 was an improvement in all fields from the first one. Adventures was never supposed to be a Star Fox game, Assault was a step in the right direction but Nintendo was too afraid to pursue making the right adjustments to that formula, and instead just took the worst parts of Assault and put it into Command with shitty controls.
Zero is just 64, but with the same gimmicky controls as command holding it back, though thankfully without the character drama. Just worse lines and VA than in 64
>>334960801
>>334961613
>American's grading system
>>334959221
How long until Nintendo stop giving certain sites review copies?
Also how long until they get with the times and start creating hype? The trailers for the game are so straight forward and lack any kind of hype train.
>>334959221
who fucking gives a shit
>>334962595
At least when we bomb our tests, we dont do it literally, yurop.
>better controls
>better graphics
>higher framerate
>better memory of offscreen objects
>optional gyro mode with its own difficulty
>otherwise nearly identical game
Yeah, what a piece of shit the 3DS version was guys, right?
How does Nintendo's review copy thing work?
I saw a guy with only 3000 subs using a review copy to upload videos.
>>334962819
3DS was great, the only issue people had was it wasnt a new SF game.
Only two complaint I see is
>It's short
>the controls are weird
Yup, sounds like a Platinum game review.
>lots of 85+ rating exclusives compared to the other platforms
But those games are garbage
>some poor scoring games
Lol Nintendo back at it making more garbage
Neo/v/ags have taken over. Once Nintendo discussions are gone PC is next
>>334962819
>better controls
Are you kidding me? While the rest might be true, the controls are shit compared to the 64 version.
>>334962964
Platinum games usually have tight controls though, not gimmick shit.
Even for W101, gamepad is optional as a second screen or to draw the lines. In SF), gamepad is mandatory because how else would Miyamoto try to rationalize the failure of the Wii U architecture?
>>334963190
>Platinum games usually have tight controls though, not gimmick shit.
0/10 try harder
>>334961948
>Getting the reference
>>334963428
>Bayonetta
>Vanquish
>Madworld
>Anarchy Reigns
>W101
>Bayonetta 2
>MGR
>Korra
>Transformers
Half of those are just Bayonetta controls even. All those games are responsive and fluid though.
>>334963582
21 what are thos e
>>334959221
Its just the media that hate Nintendo
You are either a media shill or a Sonygger
>>334963808
Now this is a fanboy mentality, ladies and gentlemen.
How can most of the complaints be about the controls if they take an hour to master
Did they play for under an hour?
>>334963725
Yeah, okay
None of those games had gimmick shit?
Selective bias
>>334964002
Maybe
just maybe
like
think about it
perhaps
maybe
just think about it my dude
ok?
alright
well
like
what if
the controls
ok?
the controls
got it?
are actually bad
>>334964135
you sound like an ultra-faggot
The wii u is essentially Nintendos Dreamcast. Given the Gamecube also sold like shit but the wii u has even under sold that.
>>334964014
Nothing as obtuse as SF0 gimmick controls, no. Maybe we have different definitions of gimmick controls, however
Which ones did you feel were gimmicks, because I;m drawing a blank.
>>334962763
>>334964263
Dreamcast had good games though, that's just insulting the legacy of that console.
>>334959221
holy fuck, is it summer already? it's april, you're not supposed to come out until june
Why the hell the wii u hasn't dropped to $199 or lower is beyond me. Its the worst selling console since the Gamecube and its life is nearly over with. The thing should be selling for $150 in my opinion.
>>334964543
summer /v/ is an oldfag myth, /v/ is terrible 24/7
>The major complaint is it's Star Fox 64 in 2016
That's like someone saying a new Legacy of Kain is being released but it's bad because it's another Soul Reaver. A few years ago this would have been a selling point but now it's a bad thing?
>>334962431
>Assault was a step in the right direction
Oh god, it's YOU again.
>>334960738
70 is actually below average for modern games journalism
0-5 are basically never used, meaning the scale is effectively 6-10. getting a 7 on a 6-10 scale is one point away from godawful.
>>334959221
T R A N S F O R M A T I O N
>>334965350
W-what are they changing into?
>>334964543
Don't you know it's eternal summer by now?
>>334964910
The major complaint is the gyro controls are just not fun, and can be outright cumbersome.
If you wanted a more apt analogy, it would be like if they remade Legacy of Kain. With touch controls.
>>334965754
But the gyro shit can be more or less turned off via an option to only activate using the ZR trigger. Rendering it a complete non-issue.
>>334959221
>2016
>trusting the metascore of a game when MGSV got nearly perfect 10s
>trusting the metascore of reviews that complain this entry is too much like the best entry and therefore bad for that
It's like you people didn't learn anything with Twilight Princess. You can't honestly take any review seriously that complains a game is too similar to perfection, therefor is terrible.
But realistically I expect this game to be good. NOT fantastic, just good... If it really was like Starfox 64 it'd be gold, but I seriously doubt Nintendo today can perfectly match that. It has an invincible mode for fucks sake. While that seemingly doesn't impact the regular mode, it's a good look into the mindset of the people making this game and lowers expectations right off the bat. But hey, considering the last terrible entries we got, we should be happy they at least tried to make a 64 inspired game in this day and age. It could have easily been based off Command or another runny, dog turd.
>>334966017
>It's like you people didn't learn anything with Twilight Princess
Fuck you anon I enjoy the fuck out of TP and have since the launch on GC.
>>334959221
That's on par with the rest of the series (64 was overrated)
Star Fox was never great. Just good. Only furries and smashfags think otherwise.
>>334959221
It was very clear since the beginning that they wanted to play it extremely safe
And they did just that
Standard nintendo fashion of not truly capitalizing on their best properties and improving upon their most creative works.
Shit mang.
It'll still be a fun game, that much is possible.
But just like Luigis mansion 2, no ones gonna be talking starfox in a month from now.
The most threads we'll get are a "Well now that the dust has settled" memes.
>>334964014
They had gimmick shit, apart from Vanquish I suppose, but none of them were BUILT on gimmick shit. Only one I guess is TW101 but it's great anyway.
>>334965072
He is right though. Star Fox can't just be the same game over and over again like some of Nintendo's other series. Assault actually tried to evolve the series in a meaningful direction, unlike Zero.
>>334961636
now I can finally buy it!
>>334966289
Luigi's Mansion 2 failed because you had to go through that fucking shit with Gadd after every mini-mission so that's lik 5-6 times per mansion
>>334966128
>Fuck you anon I enjoy the fuck out of TP and have since the launch on GC.
Well good, that was the point! TP was great, and it was great because it actually gave Zelda fans what they wanted: another OoT style game. Fuck, I still want another one to.
>>334966852
Thing is it didn't fail
It was still a good and fun game
there was just nothing to reminisce about or much to discuss
Replay value is just barely there
>>334959221
>>334966017
No matter how much you want it to be a remaster of 64, it won't be because of the forced second screen aiming
It might be a great game underneath a forced and horribly flawed control implementation. That's the real travesty
>>334966852
LM2 did better than the first. I also like it better than the stiff ass first. How can anyone like those shit-tier controls. That's how you know to disregard their opinions.
>>334966991
Perhaps fail was too strong a word there, but it did make the game feel like more of a slog
Guess what critics are stupid as fuck and hate Platinum.
>>334967135
Rated better than the first game though. I like the first game, but the dodging was fucked at times.
>>334967107
>>334967226
I think the trick was just to get them first and hope it didn't come to dodging, but I preferred the first one just because you'd have more time playing less time watching the same cutscene
>>334967191
The only thing I hate about Platinum is their fucking menu design
>>334967135
It felt a lot more all over the place, they wanted to make sure you had the tools to go through the later levels no trouble yet manage to spend the whole game giving them to you and leaving you nothing to care about the sooner you get to "aw gee another mansion to swoop"
I liked the first because it was a self contained and charming set up.
Luigi wins a mansion, yay, but its full of ghosts, shit.
It was focused
>>334967191
Is that why Bayo2 and MGR have a 91 and 80-83?
>>334967191
Yeah. Not cause they're a terrible developer or anything....
>>334962763
>>334964910
that's not an excuse when the game cost $60 bucks for a fucking HD edition
>>334964236
>text
>sound
>>334969101
Except it's not just a HD edition because it includes new mechanics, a re-telling of SF1-Lylat Wars, and another game in the form of Guard.
>>334968064
okay then you're right critics are smart
>>334967191
Maybe Platinum is just a shit developer. Maybe that's why their games never sell worth a damn.
Seriously, Platinum has to be the absolute most overrated developers in the industry. Their games are usually rated like shit and don't sell. I don't understand how they keep getting work.
