Did Skyrim do anything right?
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Did Skyrim do anything right?
Let me think...well I guess the music?
>>334948876
maybe
It was comfy
It made it easy to fix it.
>>334948876
Solstheim.
>>334948876
crossbows and overworld design, minus the settlements
It was an improvement over Oblivion. Now if I wanted to be the best fucking swordsman in the realm, the way to do it was to actually put points in swords. That and they cured the uncanny valley problem it had too.
With those twoand like a dozen sex modsit managed to be pretty decent.
>>334949375
>Bloodmoon II: Skyrim vanilla assets and even less NPCs edition
>>334948876
What was wrong with it?
It made argonians fine to fap to
>>334948876
> skyrim beloongs to the nords XDXD
It had gud memes at least
Comfy as fuck, it literally feels like my own little world with caves, taverns, small villages and cities.
>>334949758
Except they fucked the tail up. Not attached to the tailbone, animations were all shoddy.
Huge and fun to explore. Don't even bother with missions, just walk around and enjoy it. Not that bad. Add some mods to fix shit like Ai and its a fine game.
>>334948876
Dragonshouts were a nice feature
Aside from that I liked the (clumsy) killcams and that's about it.
It was comfy. But now that i remember it, the good points I would list make it sound like just a walking simulator
>>334948876
It sold well and is still discussed on cambodgian drawings gallery websites 5 years later. Those that hate it the most vehemently seems to always return to it.
>>334948876
moddability
>>334948876I YIELD I I YIELD
NEVER SHOULD'VE COME HERE
>>334949597
>less NPCs
I give you that, wish Skyrim and Skaal village were more lively.
>Skyrim vanilla assets
Eh, nordic and dwarven ruins are the same as on the mainland, which kinda makes sense. (dungeons are much better designed btw)
Besides that, Skaal Village and Raven Rock had their own assets. Raven Rock had Redoran houses and urns instead of hay roof wooden houses and barrels.
>Bloodmoon II
Fort Frostmoth is in ruins, Raven Rock is a redoran settlement, there's just some werebears on the island, Solstheim is nothing like Bloodmoon's Solstheim.
It's all about Dunmer, Miraak and Hermaeus Mora now.
>>334949735
Everything.
>>334950129
Another wanderer, here to lick my father's boots.
Good job.
>>334948876
most of it was done right pretty much.
the game's stat and skill system could be more complex though and the narrative not as braindead, but hey, it's Bethesda, a company that produces dogshit for special needs normies.
music, atmosphere and general course of the game was pretty good though. I'm a huge fan of Cicero even though his backstory could have been more fleshed out.
all in all, much better than Oblivion. Oblivion was when TES became shallow.
>>334950316
Do you get to the cloud district very often?
>>334950147
>hermaeus mora
jesus fuck i hated that slimy fuck and all his levels
fucking trash shit
everything else was on point
STORMCLOAKS > IMPERIAL SWINE
SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS
If they made a remastered Skyrim for PS4 with no load times and improved graphics, I'd pay $60.
>>334949516
I agree with this anon. Some of the settlements were pretty comfy, too. But the overworld was very nice
>>334950547
Apocrypha was the shit my redguard.
Fighting tentacle monsters, walking through moving hallways, using candlelight to cheese through the 'darkness damages you' levels, acquiring neat powers.
Dangerous knowledge is still knowledge, and therefore useful.
>>334950762
>no load times
>improved graphics
save yourself that money and get it on PC, consolecuck
>>334948876
milk the people out of their dosh
>>334950762
>no loadtimes
>bethesda
never happening, lol. Todd would rather spread his buttcheeks in front of you and release a slimy turd on your keyboard. even that's more likely to happen.
does Bethesda make exponentially more money with each game?
>>334948876
I liked the magic system of equipping spells to hands and being able to find spell books out in the world. It made it feel like magic was a form of weaponry as opposed to just being there to supplement your weapons.
But then they made it so you could buy every single spell from NPCs, made every spell only a minor variation of the previous one, gave them shit scaling, and then made all of the actually cool spells useless, or turned them into dragon shouts instead.
>>334951041
Yes, but I doubt TES VI will beat Skyrim by the margin that Skyrim beat Oblivion.
>>334951041
who cares, I kinda wish they'd close down Bethesda and disband Zenimax which is probably run by jewish merchants meme men anyway.
it wasfunandcomfy
>>334949998
>I liked the (clumsy) killcams
I thought I was the only one. Love recreating Spartacus in this game, it's pretty hype.
It was better than Oblivion for sure, but that's not much of an achievement.
>>334951262
I care because I want to know if they're likely to change their casualisation policy. Guess not
>>334950534
This is now a Whiterun thread!
Skjor says that I have the strength of Ysgramor, and my brother has his farts.
>>334948876
>that kid who bought skyrim just so he could put his fursona into the game>yfw you were that kid
>Lawrence from FH talks about how he installed a realism mod that adds hunger and cold to the game and how it made it more immersive
>the others make fun of him for making the game harder
>>334948876
It is the best 3d porn game on the market, it also doubles as a decent action rpg.
Complete character customization, no patreon paywalls or suscription fees, and insane moddability. If you love fantasy porn, or are a furry like me, there is no reason to skip this game.
>>334948876
the mods
>>334948876
off course.
>>334951396
I think by now I killed one of every living thing in Skyrim. Perhaps it's time for a trip to Morrowind.
>>334951516
>>334951430
if Beth stops making games will you guys kill yourselves? Please say yes
the atmosphere
say what you will about the rpg elements, but it nailed the comfiness of finding a warm inn in the middle of a snowstorm
it would've been nice if it had more than 3 people inside but hey, baby steps
>>334948876
The only thing that comes to mind is the carriages. But free fast travel still made it pointless.
The game did more damage that it could ever make up with.
>removal of series staple features
>shitty linear quests and dungeons
Mods will never fix the fact that there's nothing to fucking do in this game.
Don't trust anyone that says Morrowind or Oblivion is better. They're tryhard contrarians trying to gain acceptance on an anonymous image board.
>that webm ofa dick going through her stomach
>no giantesses in the game
>decide to fix that
>download Jessica Alba
>go into construction set
>make her naked
>set her size to 2x
Kept my balls empty for a whole week.
>>334951634
Lol no.
Beth games have gotten progressively worse, I'll stick with my five year old porn game that people still make mods for.
>>334951853
I can say with absolute certainty that Oblivion had much better quests and that's the only thing I care about in an RPG
the character models are better nowthey finally decided to commission another studio to do it rather than have their shitty inhouse talent do make it themselves
>>334952008
Better quests yeah, but much shittier presentation.
>>334952059
they did?
>>334952218
the studio name is in the credits
i forget the name though
>>334952059
>they finally decided to commission another studio to do it rather than have their shitty inhouse talent do make it themselves
Is Bethesda that full of hacks?
>>334951430
>kid
I want underage babbys to leave
>>334951691
The mods actually DO make it possible to do things in the gameTrees, people, trolls, you name it, you can do it.
>>334949026
oblivion had the best sound track and you know it i never felt so relaxed while playing a game before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpJEg6MTPzc
>>334948876
It let me marry an Argonian male.
Marriage doesnt mean much in the game but at least the option was there.
>>334948876
Most things. /v/ just shits on it due to not muh and being casualized.
>>334948876
The outside-enviroment was pretty innawoodsy. Tents and small hunter camps, wild animals that ran away from you instead of try to kill you etc.
If Skyrim had a survival mode like FNV i'd still be playing it.
all i can think of is mod support. If Bethesda didn't support mods. Then they would have gone bankrupted years ago
>>334948876
It was pretty fun to explore the first time and was really good at being a time sink. That's about it. Combat doesn't shine in any way, RPG elements are laughable, any "choice" is meaningless, there's not a lot visually impressive about it, and the setting or races or enemies never deviate from traditional fantasy. There's nothing you'd really find in Skyrim that you wouldn't find in a Tolkein book (with the exception of Khajiit and Argonians), which makes it ultimately bland in favor of being accessible to the normal crowd.
>>334954262
>the setting or races or enemies never deviate from traditional fantasy. There's nothing you'd really find in Skyrim that you wouldn't find in a Tolkein book
you've only scratched the surface of elder scrolls lore
Is it possible to ignore the main quest and just hit up Solstheim.
I need to see some old nostalgic Dunmer and dick ass wizards again
>>334949105
>comfy
So it did nothing.
>>334954741
You need to go to the neckbeards to start the Dragonborn questline.
But if you have the gold you can straightline to Windhelm and get on the boat.
It's what I usually do, shit's cash.
>>334953583
>atlas shape men
>sex mods
>update world and character textures
>argonian male nipples
>make every male character nude
Best game BEST GAME
Faggotry at its fucking best
>>334954563
That's half of the point I'm making, I wander into these threads every once in a while and the sort of content that made it into Skyrim is nothing compared to what sort of weird fucking shit Elder Scrolls has - like the time that the moon disappeared out of the sky and the Khajiit lost their collective minds over it, or the whole fucking CHIM thing. Hell, I even remember reading one of the in-game books about a type of northern vampire that hides under frozen lakes and can phase through ice to capture people - all really cool shit, and yet we got a really bland, really uninspired fantasy world, (at least for the game itself) where the most common enemy is either angry bandits or zombie Nords.
>>334955159
>Hell, I even remember reading one of the in-game books about a type of northern vampire that hides under frozen lakes and can phase through ice to capture people
Funny thing is, those are Volkihar vampires. You know, the ones you see in the Dawnguard DLC and are nothing like the ones in the book :^)
thanks todd
>>334955159
The lore is the only reason I bother at this point. It's much more entertaining reading about ridiculous things Kirkbride shit out than actually playing the games.
>>334948876
Atmosphere.
>>334956626
>atmosphere
Wut?
>>334956790
Don't know what it means?
Good atmosphere and some nice places as eye candy.
>>334956626
oblivion did that better tho
>>334954861
Im too lazy to do all that.
>>334956951
Im thinking of replaying it andcomplete the quest for the first timebeacuse of VR.
But im sure im just gonna sit, chill and enjoy the view.
>>334957161
>not dedicating all your effort to your husbando
You don't deserve him
>>334957309
He is my husband.
But he is not my husbando.
>>334956951
Haha skyrim doesn't have any and those pictures look like shit.
>>334948876
The handcrafted dungeons. They were formulaic (99% having a shortcut outside) but they weren't generic like the stuff in Oblivion and Morrowind.
Overworld
Music
Exploration
Bows were useful beyond 10 meters and combat was less awkward.
>>334948876
Memes, appealing to normies and casuals for massive profit. Not a heck of a lot else family.
>>334957768
>Exploration
kek, Skyrim has leveled items which discourage exploration plus dungeons are so bland that they discourage exploration even more.
>>334956951
>Tfw turned skyrim into a full on hunting sim with mods
Comfy/10
Everything over oblivion, which is now apparently held as a modern masterpiece by neo-/v/.
Skyrim had gameplay problems, but lore and story-wise it's definitely worthy to Morrowind.
>le fukken skyrim meme is still going on 4 years later
How the fuck?
>>334959563
>story-wise it's definitely worthy to Morrowind.
Weather effects
Dwemmer Constructs
>>334959563
Oblivion I can pick any direction and find a fort/camp/ruins/cave held by mages/vampires/imps/demons/bandits/mudcrabs and usually with a different layout and sometimes a story attached to it.
In Skyrim I can pick any direction and find a cave with draugrs, ruins with draugrs and pehaps even a cave with draugrs and a waterfall! Ooh
>>334948876
Yes, it killed a dying franchise.
>>334959732
When the next Elder Scrolls game comes out and most of the oldfags left it's going to be fondly remembered with nostalgia by neo-neo-neo-neo-/v/.
>>334949157
No, that's what oblivion did
>>334960492
Oldfag here
I really liked it. Hated Oblivion, though.
>>334960396
dat hyperbole
>>334949026
The music is fucking depressing, oblivion and morrowind had comfiest soundtrack ever, playing skyrim and hearing the explorationg music just makes me want to hang myself.
>>334949858
Oh you mean caves that go a little full circle and the copy paste taverns and even more robotic npcs than in oblivion?
>>334948876
I hated that with installment after morrowind you had less and less armor pieces
A lot of visual world design; being able to have a comprehensive understanding of the overmap just from Vistas. Very well done
Literally everything else is trash.
>>334962189
let's face it though, separate gloves, bracers, shoes and shoulder guards are straight up retarded.
>>334950981
Openmw devs figured it out. Go download it and go to balmora. No load times. What they did was intelligent cell precaching: the game automatically loads cells you are likely to enter before you trigger them
>>334957768
Combat, mechanically, was worse than oblivion in every way
>>334962317
They're great, fuck off.
>>334962317
Kill yourself my senpai
Overall it was pretty good. Second favorite TES.
>>334961838
>caves that go a little full circle
That's actually a really good design element. Eliminating backtracking means players spend more time engaged in something new. Take those circle caves and make it so leaving them requires a two minute wait - that shit would be infuriating.
>>334962985
You have never played a game with good level design if that's what you think
music, sky and atmosphere in general and setting
immersion was really good
the mods
>>334963074
Explain how retracing your steps along an empty corridor with no interaction is something that should be celebrated.
>>334963310
That's not how it works
They design dungeons so that there is significantly less work to get out than to get through it: usually through a series of rooms that all have their own way out at the end. It allows for actual content, actual mazes, actual design other than just "how do we dress up this giant circle?"
>>334948876
It made bears really intimidating. I actually wish I could've been the Bearborn instead of the Dragonborn because they're clearly the more serious enemy.
>>334963608
What you're describing is a series of little circles, which is the big circle idea repeated over and over.
>>334964068
No it's not at all. Fucking christ.
they stole the voice weapon idea from dune
>>334964209
>>334962801
>>334962765
but they are. Why the hell would you want that shit? There is no situation that requires two different types of gloves or bracers. You're just being nostalgiafags for the sake of it.
Worst combat mechanics in any game ever. Just ridiculous. I have no idea how this game was so popular.
i like the animation for summoning bound blade
>>334964343
You mean from David Lynch, in the books the Voice was just Bene Gesserit mind control and the Weirding Way was teleportation kung fu.
I end up cutting all the earned exp and selling prices to 1/5 the rate because you can level up so fast in this game.
Who cares to play the majority of the game god moded.
>>334964765
would you look at that, a new one for the filter
>>334948876
it had a ton of little random side areas that actually had cool stuff inside.
fallout 4 had cool side areas but they always had dogshit loot that nobody cares about, like a legendary pipe pistol that does plus 2% damage against female ghouls.
>>334964856
you show that namefaggot who's boss
>>334964905
*tripfag
>>334964148
But it is.
Take your ideal of "significantly less work to get out than to get through it", and build a simple map based on it. The initial room is a hub where the final destination is blocked, yet it can be opened by flipping switches in the hub. Getting to each switch requires going through a wing of trials, with each wing's entrance unlocked by opening another wing's switch.
Each wing is a little circle, going away from the entrance before returning to it. If you concatenated all the wings into a long stretch, you'd have one big circle.
>>334948876
sex mods
>>334964437
They're just nostalgiafags, they probably enjoyed having to walk at a cripple's pace too.
Character models were good, interesting setting and storyline. i think they really shot themselves in the foot doing both the dragon's return and the civil war at the same time, crowded out everything
some of the settings were pretty and the dlc was pretty good, worth the money imo
Well, if one refrains from making comparisons to previous ES games (I don't think OP meant invoking such comparisons): I liked the general atmosphere. Going from snowy mountains down to pleasant forested valleys.
The Dwemer ruins were good too. I liked the contraptions and whatnot.
>>334948876
Yes, Skyrim did do one thing right. In vanilla. No mods. Though mods make it better of course. But it does work in vanilla.
If you ever want to play a gorgeous sniper sim in a fantasy setting, it's the ideal game.
I liked the clouds on the mountains
>>334964437
>>334965253
>resorting to le nostalgia argument
>>334965574
>gorgeous sniper sim
Reminds me of that pic of the races with "stealth archer".
>>334965673
>resorting to greentexting because you can't answer
Bethesda was smart enough to know gamers are idiotic enough to jump on the bandwagon because of the placebo effect and memes alone
>saw multiple faggots claiming the game is ''most realistic fantasy''
>le arrow in the knee xD
>HUGE OPEN WORLD that actually is pretty moderate altough that's not eally a bad thing
>saw tards claiming battle axes are ''much slower'' than two handed swords despite the fact that they have exact same speed because Beth fucked up (one loading screen hint still says they are slower)
>pretty much force the player to play a Nord to not make him feel isolated, players made a bunch of bullshit excuses for the blatant Nord fanboyism
>interesting story - a dragon attacks fantasy Norway and you fight him in uninspired Valhalla ripoff
seriously I hope TES VI will have only swords, bows and two playable races and the game world will be the size of that tundra surrounding Whiterun then hear people praising it for variety and massive world to explore
>>334963310
>what is mark and recall
>what is a branching dungeon to explore other than an objective and a single corridor leading to it
Skyrim apologists are hilarious. It's like they've never played a dungeon crawler in their life.
>>334965763
I like the feature because it ads more customizability there you have your answer.
>>334965757
Yup. It isn't without truth, either. You can clean out pretty much all the outdoors areas and many of the indoors ones with just stealth and a bow.
>>334948876
Well it has furries so it definitely did something wrong
>>334965995
so you agree from a pure gameplay perspective it's 100% useless?
>>334966341
let's just remove character customization also since it's completely useless :^)
>>334966140
And the AI is beyond retarded. Snipe one of them, he goes running around for a bit then goes back to the campfire with an arrow in his shoulder.
Only thing it has over oblivion is that it looks nicer that being said, I can run oblivion at 120 FPS just fine but can't run Skyrim over 60 because the physics shit themselves.
>>334966140
I could never manage that with the game on master setting and all the difficulty mods I have installed. Arrows were always too weak and slow to do any real damage.
>>334966516
you didn't answer the question
>>334948876
marketing
>>334966516
(You)
>>334966341
Having more enchanted gear, which means more supporting stats/abilities is worthless from a pure gameplay perspective now?
>>334966757
what's the difference between two gloves boosting you 1% each and a set of gloves as a single item boosting you 2%?
>>334949026
Aside from a few tracks Skyrim's ost was fucking boring.
>>334957092
Oblivion had shitty ass woods
>>334966829
None, that's too many slots. Head, chest, hands, legs, boots, and fill in the rest with accessories, and maybe a cap/back slot since that gets modded in all the time.
>>334966829
It's still part of the gameplay, no amount of arguing and sitposting is going to change that.
>>334948876
waifu mods
>>334948876
First of all, the smithing/armor system. In all bethesda games I loved the look of lower tier armor but in Morrowind/Oblivion you had to exploit magic for lower tier armors to be viable.
I fucking love running around in Iron or Fur armor just wrecking shit.
Second, the music paired with the exploration. Always felt comfy as fuck anything standing on top of a pile of dead bandits in a dwimer ruin or slowly walking through a frost encrusted cavern looking for traps.
Third, mods. After all is said and done and you realize all you are doing isKILL. LOOT. RETURN.you kinda want some titties or lensflare to look at for the next 500 or so hours
>>334967235
you... you didn't actually respond. You just reverted to a previous point
>>334966542
>Fallout 4 is hardly better in graphics than Skyrim
>my medium Skyrim machine just can't play FO4
It's amazing how Beth fucked up with the optimization. I'm okay with graphics progression, but not when 1) there's no benefit matching the higher requirements and 2) Beth games should have as wide a player base as possible. FO4 should run on the potato-est PCs, particularly ones that could play Skyrim. A while back I tried all the ultra-low-end mods, they didn't fix the disastrous performance cost.
>>334966829
what's the difference between having to make a character with different stats and bonuses when you could be one character with all those stats and bonuses
>>334967338
your post has nothing to do with what I asked. I'm not arguing for one single type of gloves in the game. Shitpost elsewhere
>>334965839
>mark and recall
M&R is dependant on how often the player wants to leave. Skyrim expects the average player to do one dungeon in a play session then inventory loot afterwards, so there's no need for a quick exit and reentry mechanic. But other games (Diablo) have very long dungeons which make a desire to return frequently, so an M&R system (round-trip portals) benefits the game.
>branching dungeon
If those branches don't loop back, it only breaks up the backtracking a line would have. Those small backtracks can be used as breathers, but Skyrim has one big breather in the overworld.
They're both good design elements, but don't work as well as circles do with Skyrim.
>>334966140
Every single playthrough of mine devolves into stealth archery.
>>334967281
>that skin texture
Christ almighty, what the fuck
Her tits look like oranges
>>334967416
I'm just saying why have customization when you could already have everything on one
>can't melee while jumping in FO4
Literally unplayable
>>334967593
Oh sorry, I forgot to get this weeks plastic oiled up skin.
Let me marry an argonian I guess
>>334966568
You probably fucked up and put points into magic or two-handed weapons or some completely unnecessary crap skill like that.
>>334967702
so you regularly customized your character with different gloves and bracers?
>>334967727
Have you ever looked at a breast in real life, though? They aren't covered in pores and pock marks like that unless something seriously wrong has happened
>>334966524
Or in his knee LOL
>>334948876
The first hour or so is pretty fun, things drop off sharply after that
>>334967702
>>334967338
>>334967235
>>334966757
>>334966516
this just proves that all it takes to destroy nostalgiafags is a couple simple questions about those "good old features". They take no time at all to devolve into shitpoting and circular logic. Thanks for once again showing how retarded you all are
>>334967932
They look like that because of how large the breasts are, stretched out.
I never once wanted to go for hyper realism. I just wanted big titties. And that skin came with the mod and without spending hours looking for the proper skin for the right light and changing skins for indoors and outdoors or what the fuckever they do over in /tesg/.
Stop getting triggered over little things.
@334968079
Omg your so write fuck those nostalgia morrowind fags XD
>>334968079
SAVAGE
>>334967479
This
>try to make some child wizard argonian trying to be the fucking best wizard
>add a shitload of spell mods
>find one of them
>bound bow
>suddenly stealth archer
>>334968218
This is how Morrowind fags defend their game.
>>334948876
Atmosphere is good.
Disclaimer: thats my opinion
>>334968218
>@
we have moved beyond reddit
>>334968218
>@334968079
>Omg your so write fuck those nostalgia morrowind fags XD
Pardon me, but the @ thing is only to refer to people who you do not want to give a (You) to while mocking them. You used this in the "ironic im new to 4chan" sense and not the "fuck you faggot you aint getting a (You) from me today" sense.
Please remember this for the future
>>334967867
Not really, and I use SPERG
Did we like Blackreach?
>>334968079
There's that nostalgia argument again.
>>334968213
It just looks gross, and I figured you'd be one of those /tesg/ guys considering you posted a screenshot of a titty monster in revealing armor
>>334968567
>that
>"titty monster"
I'd post a screenshot of my character in werewolf form with six gigantic breasts but that would get me banned.
@334968325
@334968407
@334968417
then how do i respawnd then fags
>>334968318
Yeah
>play every conceivable way but stealth
>die stupidly due to health tanking and ridiculous damage
>try stealth archery
>kill everyfucking thing
>tfw the memes were true
>>334968762
Just black bar it, then, this sounds hilarious
>>334948876
This game exists with a body slider letting you make pretty much any nude body type you want with tons of slutty outfits along with contextual sex mods.
Meanwhile, there are still DoA threads where you have to buy outfits with real money for girls you cant even see naked.
Why would you cuck yourself with pornography?
>>334968567
No if I was from /tesg/ the skin would be smooth as plastic, oiled up, with maximum lens flare and an anime face along with a pose for attention with a tripcode on and trying to get my characters feet in the shot somehow.
>>334968407
>being this new to not recognize the "@" shitpost
>>334968864
Have a link instead. https://i.imgur.com/NDkX55p.jpg
>>334969079
>being this new to think I didn't recognize it as opposed to decry its use as a terrible meme
>>334968898
I just assume anyone that posts screenshots of fat-tittied women in Skyrim is one of them at this point which is why I was surprised there was no ENB, different skin, etc
>>334969125
>those nipples
Oh god
I personally prefer stealth dagger. Pulling off 60x dagger damage on everything is great. One hit KO dragon priests.
>>334969210
Fuck you
>>334969268
Soup can sized, I imagine. I suppose it's unnecessary, but I'm not complaining.
>>334961301
oblivion was never good. not even with mods.
>>334969268
fat-tittied women
Fair enough.
>>334969125
What the fuck dude. Thats worse than the bouncing titty frost atronach abomination I seen awhile back on /v/
>>334968079
>>334967012
Fuck off shitposter
>>334959323
So exactly like Oblivion but with level ranges on enemies for each region rather than Oblivion's entire world adjusted to your level.
It's TECHNICALLY an improvement.
Leveling is a lot better than Oblivion's silly system, that's for sure.
I'm fairly confident a simple XP system would have been better. Or keep the vanilla system and only have gains for combat skills.
>>334948876
>try to play it vanilla
>I become immortal after 8 hours at most
>get bored
>try to play it with Requiem
>after 40 hours I still die from one-two hits from 90% of enemies meanwhile I have to hit them 60 times to kill them
>get bored
are there overhaul mods which make this game fucking playable?
Skyrim was fine and you all know it
>>334969909
It was ages ago, but I remember Duel improving combat a little. Not drastically. Timing attacks and preserving stamina became more important.
>>334969732
I think the OP was asking for things it did right compared to all the other games that exist and not just Oblivion exclusively.
>>334969125
I'd fuck it.
>>334970126
DELETE THIS
>>334970126
>>334970126
This kinda puts the horse vagina thing into proper perspective.
>>334970109
OP asked if it did anything right. Being better than Oblivion is a step in the right direction.Steel Plate Armor was a pretty good design.
I honestly can't think of many things Skyrim did right besides allow modding still
-A few areas like the Dwemer Mines were interesting to explore
-Letting you kill major story NPCs especially the head of the Dark Brotherhood
-Bows and magic were fun to a point
-Music was good, thought so much better than the areas you heard it in
-The scrolling 2D background used for the sky was amazing
Everything else was pretty much a failure. Even some of the things I named caused new problems that needed to be fixed with mods like killing story NPCs. And the fact that you could be invincible at level 15 with just a few archery and stealth skills.
It really feels like they didn't even playtest the game. Even something as simple as NPCs talking to you got old within a few hours and broke the very immersion they were trying to establish.
>>334970126
>>334964971
Fuck you. You've done nothing but prove my point even further; you've never played a game with good level design. You're probably 20 or younger
>>334970317
>Letting you kill major story NPCs
Most of them were still immortal, right. Or is it just the main quest.
>>334970297I expected porn
>>334964437
>dude less customization is good when removing it achieves nothing lmao
>>334967883
Ayup. Difficult to process, right?
You're right though. We should really just have one armor slot to enchant. Everything else is superfluous. Why we haven't done away with armor and levels in a world where everything scales is beyond me now that I think about it. Why scale when everything can just be static?
The crux of the argument is over the merits of multiple enchant slots as opposed to fewer. You failing to see that arguing "It's the same either way." by presenting one scenario not only works just as much in favor of your stance as it does his, but also that its foundation is fallacy. Bordering on false dilemma.
The only real argument here, boiled down, is "Fewer armor pieces is better because I like it." or "More is better because I like it." Saying that the effective value can be balanced to be the same in either scenario does no side any greater benefit. You only feel it does because of the bias you hold. Which is why your opponent, with a bias toward the other end, feels it benefits him as well.
Which takes me back to the snarky end of things. I propose we just make one hero with a signature set of armor and weapon. Screw customizing for looks and character builds. That's just unnecessary fluff. See, your argument for reduction taken to its logical end is not a tangent, Anon. While simplification is not intrinsic to "better" design, nor is the opposite true either. Your argument just draws away from player control more than his. And so I must mock.
with the survival mod it becomes pretty damn enjoyable
shame about those dungeons tho.
>>334948876
It had better character models than oblivion did.
>>334970441
Skyrim has the problem that you (or random vampires/dragons/whatever) can kill vital NPCs. But it seems totally random. Sometimes you'll pump them full of arrows and they just stagger around. Then out of nowhere a dragon swoops down and kills that same NPC and about 5 people in a town.
The game is just bad in so many ways.
Skyrim is forcute argonian girls
>>334970816
I never noticed that, but it's plausible.
I once fought a rather tedious battle with a dragon that spawned in Falkreath. Idiot NPCs kept rushing to their deaths by attacking it head on.
The first 5 hours or so are GOTYAY forever.
Then you realize it's all shallow as fuck.
Skyrim was great, I'm glad to see the game series become more popular. I love talking about the lore with people.
>>334971357
Most open world game experiences are like that, I think.
>>334971357
This has been a problem since Morrowind. We used to describe Bethesda as being good at putting one foot forward while hiding their withered, cripple leg behind a smoke screen. Their presentation has been on an incline overall. They're getting better and better at making very fun Seyda Neen scenarios. Lots of fun little things to get the tip wet but then when you try to go balls deep you find out you're in the unfinished shallow hole of the game equivalent of a tranny with a botched operation.
>>334971357
That frostfall or whatever mod fixed this, made every trip really meaningful and the game truly felt like an open world survival in the cold north.
But then the author went and turned it into a paid mod, what a fag.
>>334951860
You're gonna deliver some sauce with this or what?
>>334971681
did you try to have sex with a tranny?
>>334971185
Its so bad that there's a mod called 'Run for your Lives' just to address NPCs being killed by Dragons. It doesn't do anything else except make NPCs run to the nearest house when a Dragon appears.
>>334972021
It also has a version for vampire attacks
>>334971568
Dragon Quest VIII and Red Dead Redemption were fun the whole way through. I spent a good 150 hours on both and still didn't want it to end when I finally reached the end game.
Skyrim was more like a few interesting ideas kept me playing for about 10 hours. I still saw tons of flaws, but the promise of a big world to explore kept me playing. But no matter how long I played, more and more flaws appeared. Until it got so bad around hour 30 that I just had to stop playing. And I still wasn't even done with the draughr/cave shit you're suppose to do at level 5.
>>334971928
>Try
Will we ever get Beyond Skyrim? Most huge land and overhaul mods never get finished afterall.
>>334968537
Loved it. One of my favourite moments in the game was finding it and finding nirnroot guy from oblivion dead in the house.
>>334969125
I didn't know the Gaping Dragon was in skyrim.
>>334948876
They really, really, really need to make there be more racial differences so there is more replayability.
>>334973264
Then they wouldn't be able to let every race use the same armor. In other words, more work would need to be done besides just jamming lore into a book.
>>334948876
moddability
>>334973264
das rayciss
They made a game that was easily modifiable into solid masturbation aid.
>>334973264
They've moved away from the replayability model. They want you to endlessly play one save as an uber-character, not have distinct playthroughs. Hence the reduction of penalties and restrictions across the board, the level scaling and what not.
>>334969534
>bouncing titty frost atronach abomination
Still got a picture of it?
>>334948876
It did everything right. It had good graphics, sound, gameplay-unintrusive story and characters, solid mechanics, and was a casual piece of shit which made millions. And if you actually wanted a good RPG, you could just mod the shit out of it.
>>334974419
Where can I download the mod that adds good quests and dungeons to the game?
>>334964437
Enchanting nigga.
You can give one glove the ability to shoot flames and the other electricity.
>>334974480
Skyrim Nexus --> sort by Top Mods
>>334974480
What do you mean by "good quests"? I find the quests good enough. If you want "muh epic storyline" play cinematic crap like Witcher 3 or just watch a movie.
And the dungeons may not be the biggest, but they can have a very good, creepy atmosphere with good lightning mods.
Bethesda has a big hard on for screwing animal heads onto human bodies. I wish they'd either fuck up their bodies to look more animal-like (which they won't do, rigging costs, etc), or they'd just reel back on trying to screw on tiger and iguana heads onto people bodies like they're playing with action figures.
There's a shit ton of Khajiit breeds but we're stuck on a tiny part of the spectrum.
>>334974590
>>334974650
Not seeing anything.
How about mods that fix the level scaling?
>>334974046
for science of course
>>334974889
>mods that fix the level scaling?
Try Requiem. It's the best mod for Skyrim.
>>334974650
>If you want "muh epic storyline" play cinematic crap
And here, class, we see an underaged memester shitposting without educating themselves by either: lurking moar or broadening their horizons before opening their fat stupid face to speak.
The quests are back to Morrowind tier fetching with none of the diversity, quality, or quantity Oblivion showcased. Skyrim was a step back in quest and dungeon design in nearly every way from Oblivion.
And that's a fucking shame because it's literally all they got right with Oblivion. This entire fucking series is "Good concept, few hitches." coupled with "Improved in one area from the last game, regressed in three others."
What the Anon you replied to wanted wasn't fucking The Witcher, he wanted Bethesda to stop sucking shit straight from a straw from a second, repackaging it for retards like yourself to gobble up.
>>334975224
>Morrowind tier fetching
Sounds to me like you didn't even play the game, if you think every quest is a fetch quest.
>>334974817
This always bugged me. So your kid is born on a given lunar cycle and they're a kitten instead of a human if you had just kept them from crawling out your snatch for just a few days longer? Or is it conception that determines this shit? How do the Kitty-shits even work as a society when fucking 1/4 of them are born as monkey-cats or just straight up cats?
>>334975085
Thanks.
>>334975450
You name a quest in Skyrim that isn't:
>Go here
>Get the item
>Kill one of three mob types: draugr, dwemer construct, or gobli-CAVE ELF.
>Watch muh cinematic bullshit before doing one of the above
Go on. Really. Wiki up those two or three outlier quests in Skyrim that come close to the average Oblivion put out.
Not even saying Oblivion quests were -good-. Skyrim is just shitter than Oblivion's shit.
sold a ton and became well regarded by the general video game playing public
It still makes me mad that so many of the mechanics are complete shit. It's a good value for $20 but I would have to spend hours going through overhaul and texture mods etc. to fix things and then it would take the fun out of it
why don't they just copy dark souls but add more types of magic and stuff
>>334953421
Oblivion's soundtrack was way too mild. Half the time there wasn't even any music playing. Skyrim and Morrowind were both better in quantity and quality.
>>334975978
Already one of the first quests you can get is much different than this. The one in Whiterun for example, where the Alik'r ask for this woman.
>search for woman
>find woman
>woman tells the others are the bad guys
>you have to decide which site you chose
>you can hand her over or go the cave where the alik'r are
>when you find them in the cave, they give you another choice
>when you accept their offer you get another choice
>you lead them to the women and can kill them there without being surrounded in a cave
I found this quest ok. The only dumb thing was just that the alik'r came totally alone at the end. That made no sense, but otherwise it was good.
>>334948876
It had okay music.
People/characters looked better, compared to Oblivion that is.
The animations for the game sucked as generally speaking.
Most of the problems with the game lie in the laziness of the devs, shitty engine, and cut corners because muh release dates.
>>334976607
Good work! You found a whole kill quest where the cinematic bullshit offered the option to not kill.
A
Whole
Quest
>>334976461
Bull the fuck shit
Absolute worst post in the thread
>>334976847
Now you are obviously just trolling. If you don't like the game, just don't play it.
I personally do not care that much about story anyway. I play games for the gameplay and TES can have pretty fun sandbx gameplay with the right mods.
Side quest design was unimpressive.
Navigation in Dwemer ruins/supercave was annoying.
Bethesda fucked up the economy once again, despite all its experience.
Same with balancing; you got imba real fast with sneaking and surprise attacks, or ranged weapons.
Totally imba and out-of-control smithing & potion virtuous cycle.
It's like they decided that making the world look even better, have a better main storyline than Oblivion and making the world bigger would be enough.
Actually, it was enough, they sure made a lot of profit.
It's similar as with the Total War series and other series, which keep failing in the same challenge again and again (Total War: The A.I. sucks both on strategy map and on battle map and individual troops' movements).
>>334975978
While Blood on the Ice is the worst coded quest of all time, it actually had a time limit, if you put it off, Calixto would kill off all the female vendors.
However, you could find and kill him during any of his attempts, so you have a degree of control over who dies in the city.
It appealed massively to casuals which made betas (pcfats and console war fags) which made me happy.
It also set the bar for further casual appeal which exclusively affects pc fats since console fags are mostly casual. Again, this angers the faggots which is good.
It had some nice music.
>>334977123
>It's similar as with the Total War series and other series, which keep failing in the same challenge again and again (Total War: The A.I. sucks both on strategy map and on battle map and individual troops' movements).
Yes which is why the AI in Attila doesn't engage unless it has numerical parity with your forces, retreats from battles and actively guards it's flanks during the fighting.
>>334948876
It sold a lot of copies
>>334948876
character creation
Yes. The overworld was cool, and specific dungeons like that underground glowing dwarven place were cool (can't recall what it was called). Aside from that, everything ranged from meh to bad. It's better than Oblivion though, but that's not too hard to accomplish.
>>334969483
is there a leatherman mod for skyrim?
>>334948876
Races looked a lot less goofy than in Oblivion. More than one male and one female voice for each race. Also comfy as fuck and fucking around in it could be entertaining at times
>>334975978
That one quest that was basically a tribute to the Hangover.
It was just a more polished Oblivion with a more interesting world and less obnoxious level scaling. It's extremely similar to Oblivion though, it's basically Oblivion Part 2: this time we put in more effort on some things.
>>334948876
(moded) Skyrim is the best 3D porn game in the market
Illusion animu fags can fuck themselves
>>334951583
>>334951594
This
>>334977768
I know people shit on the dungeons in Skyrim for being linear but at the same time all of the dungeons in Oblivion consisted of cave hallways, castle ruins hallways, and elven ruins hallways. Once you had seen one dungeon, you'd pretty much seen a third of all the dungeons. Skyrim at least mixed it up by giving them unique areas and stuff that mixed them up a bit. Plus castle ruins were pretty much completely nonlinear and gave you multiple entry and exit points.
Call me a shill but to some degree I enjoyed Skyrim, at least with mods. Hypothermia mod made the cold, snowy mountains more intense and dangerous since you actually needed to prepare for trips through them by taking stuff for building fires and warm clothes to avoid freezing to death. Plus chilling by a campfire was pretty fucking cozy.
>>334975085
Requiem had a lot of potential, but suffered from balance issues. Enemies would kill you in a couple hits unless you had end game heavy armor on, and you had to absolutely beat on anything but just basic bandits to kill them.
It was close to being amazing though, the perks were all way better, and increased lethality would be fun if handled a bit better.
>>334980604
Not sure what kind of outdated version you played there but the version which I played (1.73) has an MCM where you can adjust player and NPCs damage.
It's an immersion mod, so combat will be very difficult and realistic.
>>334949521
But Oblivion had Blade and Blunt. Skyrim just had One-handed and Two-handed. You'd end up the best one-handed swordsman who's also a master of one-handed axes and maces.
Daily Reminder that this is a thing now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UztnB91xaWg
hey /v/, what your favorite dragon shout to use?HEY SKEEVER BUTT
>>334981787
i always used firebreath
>>334981787
Slow Time
>>334981787
Marked for Death, FUSRODAH, and Storm Call (most fun)
>>334982560
storm call always seemed weak to me
>>334981787
Icefrom next to cliffs
god danm they flew far away
>>334981006
Except under each skill tree it branches out for each of the subweapon classes. So you've got one handed blades, war axes, and maces under one handed while you've got great swords, warhammers, and battle axes under two handed. Granted the branches for those ones are easy to fill out but it's faster and more effective just to pick one you want and follow that until you complete it. So you actually have more weapon classes to choose from than Oblivion with each weapon subclass having different effects with axe skills causing bleeding damage, maces/warhammers ignoring armor, and swords having improved critical hits.
>>334975632
It's based on birthdate, yes. They have actual calendars and seers to help parents who want to conceive.
>>334982741
Did you get all 3 words of power? I straight up annihilated dozens of Markarth guards and its gotten to a point where they (try to) kill me on sight if I get within 60 miles of the city
>>334948876
it waz muh first rpg!!!!
>>334980549
Skyrim's an enjoyable game. It's a bad TES game. This is the point people blow out of proportions.
The mods are fantastic and the community for them is great.
>>334980604
Never in my experience. I think yours is out dated.
Combat felt /extreme/ in a sense that I'm never the dragonborn of vanilla skyrim and will die if I try to take on a bunch of bandits that I run into randomly while roaming.
>>334984486
>>334982741
Only problem with Storm Call is that you're highly likely to kill any followers you have.
>>334974817
>gorilla Senche Rahts
>>334984618
I've never found a combat mod that make the game not boring. Starting a game is insanely tough
>>334981787STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM
>>334985219
Problem with starting a game for me is that the tutorial section bores the shit out of me and makes it hard for me to get in to.
Fuck though, this thread is making me reinstall it so I can play it againAt least until my tax returns come in and I can get DaS3 or Xcom 2
>>334985420
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9557/?
>>334948876
It had a hot vampire with a sexy voice.
>>334980604
I don't like huge overhaul mods.
I ended up using Apocalypse for spells(most of which I never used), SPERG for perks, ultimate combat for damage tweaks and ASIS for more spawns and AI usage of Apocalypse spells.
It was pretty fun but some of the SPERG perks are just too good, like the Block 15 one where you regen your stamina in combat as if you were out of combat, which basically means one low rank perk gives you +300% stamina regen.
Combat was better than anything before it (not saying much)
Aesthetic might have been the strongest of any TES
Variety of world topography and climate was very good.
Solid expansions.
>>334985607
I usually run Requiem with civil war patrols, sharp sword and realistic bows and sex/rape/slavery mods
>>334985607
>SPERG
In other words you are a casual and Requiem was too hard for you right?
>>334985517
One of the few companions with interesting dialogue. After playing 40+ hours of the game, I met her and she felt like she belonged in a different game.Then I refused to become a Vampire and never saw her again.
>>334948876
i miss oblivion
>>334986342
it was my first TES game and i poured SO many hours into it but i think looking past the nostalgia it's one of the weaker entries.
>>334948876
Stronk Nord womyn
>>334974419
>gameplay-unintrusive story and characters
If by "gameplay-unintrusive" you mean "empty and soulless", then sure.
>>334986752
No, I mean "no annoying cutscenes and endless dialogues every 5 minutes".
>>334981787
Time manipulation, fear, or the "death" word that was guarded by one of the dragon priests that did soul capture, which was kinda cool but useless since I had a bow that did the same thing.
>>334983003
>So you actually have more weapon classes to choose from than Oblivion with each weapon subclass having different effects with axe skills causing bleeding damage, maces/warhammers ignoring armor, and swords having improved critical hits.
It's just too bad that those weapon-specific effects are too weak to be useful. Bleeding damage from axes is pathetic and doesn't work on the tons of draugr you'll have to fight. Critical hit damage for swords is based on the weapon's base damage before skill, perks, or smithing improvements (and is therefore extremely low). Ignoring armor is perhaps the most useless one; even enemies that wear armor, like bandits, actually have a very low armor rating because no matter what they're wearing, they don't have a high enough skill to make the armor very effective. Instead, they just have lots of health. Therefore, being able to ignore their nearly-nonexistent armor rating means almost nothing. And of course, it's *completely* useless against monsters.
It did a lot of things right.
Or else people wouldn't still fucking be playing it to this day.
>>334986298
So did you just stop playing Dawnguard? Because she's a required companion for most of the quests, no matter which side you choose.
>>334986884
>Not wanting lots of dialogue in an RPG
>>334948876
visuals, and easy modding tools made the game worth while.
>>334986612
disgusting
Setting was comfy as hell and I'm talking of course about the idea of the setting and the biome because every other aspect of it's execution is garbage
>>334951583
Argonians > Lilmothiit > Khajiit
>mfw this thread is 5x more enjoyable then the past 10 /tesg/ threads
>>334988994
nah
Lilmothiit>khajiit>argonian
>>334989415
I'll admit the Khats and the Dogs are good, but nothing really compares to Lizard tits.
>>334988186
After doing her quest, I did at least 30 more caves and NPC quests. And I saw that the game wasn't going to actually improve so I quit.
>>334989670
Find a woman with breast implants and you'll have real life lizard tits. Hard as stone while also being perfect circles.
>>334989670
you mean hist sacks right?
>>334989247
Is there anything even in those threads aside from waifu and sexlab posting?
with all its flaws and bethesda's development decadence, it's still a better RPG than the witcher 3.
the lack of customization in TW3 puts me off immediately. TW3 may be a better game overall considering the graphics and polishing but it's not a better RPG than TESV or any of the last two predecessors.
>>334989834
But those are awful. What if I want a rough and somewhat smooth and slimy experience? You can get all three from Argonians. Scaly skin, smooth underbellies and slimy Argonian skin.
>>334989879
Hist sacks work too.
>>334990413
they're not real, anon
>>334990413
because lizard tit belmont is sssooooo attractive
Comfy
Duel wielding
Crafting
Its only problems is they had the terrible level scaling from oblivion and really unfun mage archetype
And the linear as fuck dungeons and RNG NPCs, like there were so many bandit camps that I felt should have been settlements that you could either purge or pay your way through and trade with
Also factions felt tacked on, you didn't get anything for joining them, like better trainers and access to new shops, you just had to interact with them to do your generic warrior/mage/thief questlines.
>>334990596
I can believe they exist in another world and could possibly land here.tfw Lizard people like Argonians could possibly exist but will never be around in your lifetime.It hurts.
>>334990831
>Lizard tit belmont
>Not attractive
Anon.
>>334988941
The thing is, it's a sandbox game in the truest sense. That's why it will always be successful. They figured it out with Morrowind and I wouldn't be surprised if they continued fucking around with gamebryo for the next ten years.
Personally, I would build a completely new engine for the next Elder Scrolls but I heavily doubt that they're going to do that.
>>334991126
thats groady anon
Tits don't belong on lizards. Delete this thread. Retcon female Argonians out of the series.
>>334949858
copy pasted caves with no incentives besides a weapon in a chest at the end that looked like every other
copy pasted taverns without a single memorable or even decently written character
small villages with literally no incentive to explore, no interesting characters, every single in town quest ending with you going to a cave to kill enemies
and cities that take a literal minute to walk across with at most 3 civiliian houses
I wish it was as comfy as you say
>>334991510
they have kinda been a thing since day 1
>>334991126
One of those things pelts could make a fortune for the right seller.
So far I'm downloading Apocalypse, Frostfall, Immersive weapons, Immersive armor, Ultimate Combat, Dance of Death, playable instruments, and Dodge mod.
Anything else I should add?
>Want to continue due to never actually finishing game
>Also want to fill it with lods of emods
>Some mods refuse to work properly despite doing everything known to solve issues
>Don't want to do game after five minutes without those mods
I hate it. If only the game by default wasn't so stale and full of nothing.
>>334991726
but that's an extreme exaggeration.
And you're not mentioning mods.
>>334991894
wheels of lull
>>334991894
Maybe something that makes dragons better, like that one AI animation pack? Also maybe something with magic like Midas unless you don't plan on doing any magic.
>>334991871
Looks like a shitty doll.
I'd kill it, then sell her tits to lonely forsworn.
Orc life is the good life.
>>334950489
no, very little of it was done right
I'll give you atmosphere (although it was relatively generic)
but pretty much every other facet of the game (combat, stat mechanics, leveling up, enemy level scaling, dialogue, quest variety, writing quality, etc) was lazily, lazily done.
>>334948876
Is the vanilla console version worth playing at all? I've never played a Elders Scrolls game and kind of want to try this one out.
>>334991365
So?
>>334991829
>Skinning sexy Argonian girls for cash
Disgusting.
>>334991871
reported/10
>>334992124
An orcz gotta feed his harem anon.
>>334991828
They've been a mistake since day 1.
>>334992091
>Playing Bethesda games without mods
That's just killing your soul.
>>334991894
Ordinator and disparity are 100% legit mods
>>334992265
Well a lot of people seemed to like this game when it launched so I just thought I'd ask.
>>334991726
Why did Bethesda get rid of the unique weapons from Fallout 3?
It was one of the few good ideas they had in FO3, they made good prizes for clearing small dungeons, but no come Skyrim and FO4 every weapon is the same just with enchantments for variety.
It's especially bad in Skyrim where you can easily make better items than you'll ever find or be awarded.
>>334992124not saying i wouldn't fug a qt argonian its just that their not my cup of tea
>>334992191
Then go skin this repulsive creature instead and stay away from Argonian girls.
>>334992234
well that's aterribleopinion you have there anon
>>334992465
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Unique_Weapons
>>334991951
none of that is exaggerated
and also amateurs should not be making better content than bethesda. the fact that you use that as a defense show's how lazy bethesda is.
>>334991998
I'm planning on playing as a sort of battlemage character who also uses two handed weapons. That's why I downloaded Apocalypse. I was thinking of rolling a battlemage that focuses on health leeching along with some of the example spells on the page that sound cool like
> Talons of Nirn: Staggered enemies in the area of unstable ground are impaled and tossed by stone spikes.
> Meltdown: Fiery globe that burns a target. Fire damage extends the duration, until the target explodes.
>>334992560
I'd rather have a terrible opinion than a wrong opinion.
>>334992375
That's because when it launches people are enjoying a new world. Up to a week or so after people realize it was superfluous and full of 85% nothing. The cool shit the team made before release didn't get implemented even though it would've meant actual physics and flails, riding dragons around freely, and SPEARS.
Also I SURRENDER. NEVER SHOULD HAVE COME HERE
and the fact that the majority of missions if not half of them and locations are all fighting draugr, then you have 15% of them all being the fucking falmer asshats who do ridiculous amount of damage and have stupidly high HP for no fucking reason.
>>334992594
With a few exceptions you can make better ones that look the same
>>334948876
Yup:
>Enemies have wider behaviours and attack patterns that make them feel different from one another, rather than just another reskinned humanoid
>Return of traps and puzzles (could be better, but it's also better than nothing at all)
>Dungeons don't feel copy-pasted (they're linear, but at least it wasn't like Morrowind/Oblivion where every single time you're like "I've seen this room like fifty times already."
>Perk system
>World environments felt really well done, mountains had actual paths that wound up them instead of Oblivion's "let's find the random bit that isn't too steep to jump up"
>Addition of crafting
>Magic felt powerful and the casting types were unique (albeit at the cost of a smaller spell library)
>Greatly improved the voice actor cast from Oblivion
Like any other TES game it did a lot of things right and a lot of things wrong.
>>334992473
That's okay anon, variety is a slice of life. I'm okay with all the races in TES. I just favor Argonians.
>>334950129
This was a problem in morrowind too.
Fucking nords.
>>334991726
>every single in town quest ending with you going to a cave to kill enemies
Sounds like you're just getting quests from inn keepers which basically just boil down to randomly generated quests.
loli rape mods.
>>334992626
I didn't say bethesda wasn't lazy, I just said your exaggerating a little.
A little mind you
>>334948876
no, all games are bad.
if you think otherwise, you're a cooperate shill.
satisfying comfy mood
>>334992547
Those don't contain valuable argonian eggs, or the aphrodisiac that argonian horns contain.
Humans will buy up all that stupid argonian shit.
More money means a happy harem.
>>334993160
What camera mod? That looks so unlike regular mouse look. It's gorgeous.
>>334993049
Those don't exist
>>334948876
> The soundtrack
> Khajiit designs that are actually awesome, the
> Orc Strongholds
> The soundtrack
> Dawnguard and Dragonborn
> Serana
> Skyforge Steel weapons
> Thieves Guild
Oh and the soundtrack was pretty swell, but other than that the game was on par with the rest of their games, still sunk about 600 hours into it, not including loading times.
>>334993160
the computer running that must be on fire
>>334993214
First person. It's funto be a tittymonster and look down
>>334993160
What sort of rig does that sort of modding and quality call for? My toaster can't take much in graffix
>>334993267
You made me forget
>Better bosses and loot in the expansions
Gear had more unique properties that you couldn't just enchant yourself, and Boss fights had more scripting to make them feel fun.
Miraak was a blast compared to any of the other TES bosses.
>>334993251
But they do.
>>334993267
I wanted to kill all the thieves because fuck those thieving pieces of shits.
Orc strongholds could have at least let an orc character interact better with them.
Skyforge sucked.
and really what soundtrack? the random ambient sounds that play occasionally?
>>334957768
Bows, shoot somebody in the feet....does as much damage as shooting them in the face, cmon even games in the early 2000s had better mechanics than that. Everything in the game is shallow and basic as fuck.
>>334992970
i agree 100% with this notion
>>334993184
People like you, always looking for a way to snatch up someone's coin. Not caring for the well being of others.
>>334993251
mod list
RCOTS is Children of the Sky. A loli mod for skyrim.
>>334992990
humans are meh, elves are mehso i guess that makes me a fucking furfagbut orcs are kinda cool
>>334993392
Oh and
> Herma Mora remake
The whole Cthulu aesthetic was sick.
> The Moonforge Dungeons
Those quests were great fun, and the reward is actually satisfying.
>>334993049
filthy fucking degenerate
>>334993329
i know that feel
>>334948876
bait...... and mods
>>334993674
There have been mods for locational damage, but since they need to use scripts and Skyrim's scripting system is apparently a piece of shit, they end up lagging and bugging out even on good computers.
>>334993793
Orcs are excellent.
>>334993392
jigalag was pretty nice he was what marcar camoren should of been for the main quest instead of running through a gauntlet of deadra
>>334993959
It's fun to do that but the biggest problem that never ceases to annoy me is that the textures of almost every clothing mod isn't good enough to warrant that close of a view. It severely grates my autism when the body looks nice but then the clothes are in 240p or some shit.
>>334993329
i5 and 780
>>334993483
Hey, that's thievest you fucking bigot!
I agree, but just having the Orcs have their own specific thing made them feel a lot more unique as a race, and gives us an idea of what their culture is like.
Skyforge Steel was literally the best weapons in the game, you could improve them to Daedric levels, which meant you didn't have to stare at those overdesigned Mattel toys.
The soundtrack was easily onpar with Oblivions, take the time to listen to it on Youtube someday, you would be surprised at how good it is.
it was developed for blue haired cosplay gamerz, not hardcore nerdasses, just like all of bethesda's products.
they know where the money is.
what's the best body texture for female khajiit?
what mod lets me select what kind of melee attack i want to make(thrust/slash/bash)?
>>334994098
Any idea what the usual fps is running around and in combat?
>>334993483
Jeremy soul nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpqSdORmCX4
i want to fuck a cat person
>>334994152
Around 35-45 depending on the scenario. That NLA enb is pretty bullshit to run but you can turn things down a little like shadow distance and grass density
>>334950489
>Cicero
I killed the living shit out of him as soon as I was able to. When I entered the room where he was playing dead I just let loose on his ass with arrows without even giving it a second thought.
I know you were supposed to spare him because "the dread father wills it" but I was on a warpath after everyone in my family but the Loli and Redguard (I missed the old man apothecary the most) got murdered and Cicero was easy to hate at that point.
That entire fucking quest line was just great. Probably the most fun I had playing Skyrim, closely followed by the thieves guild stuff.
>>334994104
>Skyforge Steel was literally the best weapons in the game, you could improve them to Daedric levels, which meant you didn't have to stare at those overdesigned Mattel toys.
It's too bad that they look exactly the same as normal steel weapons, though. There was a mod that gave them unique models, but I think the guy who made it removed it from the Nexus along with all his other mods in retaliation for the community refusing to accept paid mods a while back.
>>334993728
>sexlab default child patch
fucking end yourself pedo faggot
>>334994252
And I'm guessing if you have no ENB it'd increase to a good 40-50 if not higher?
>>334994312
xD. They're just pixels dude. They don't mean anything.
>>334950596
I'd rather live in a world where we cant worship some "literally who?" god than a world where everyone's a fucking racist.
Imperials all the way, fuck the stormcloaks
>>334994147
Feminine Khajiit
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/62193/
Feminine Argonian too, by the same person
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/62574/
They also did Khajiit and Argonian textures for males too. Just check their other uploads.
>>334994156
>>334994104
That stuff really doesn't do it for me, Not going to say it's bad, but for me it's not memorable in the slightest.
>>334964478
Its popular cause its so easy that nobody can suck, and there is a happy ending to every quest. The mechanics are so simple that a 5yr old can pick it up. Now, I have no idea how any adult person can play this game for a long time without realizing how basic and shallow the mechanics of this game are. Mods are not gonna fix shitty engine/mechanics.
>>334994090
thats what texture mods are for, i just hope you have a beefy computer that can handle multiple 2k textures going off all at once
>>334994341
It'll be a solid 60fps. There are less demanding ENBs out there
>>334948876
Crafting/enchanting and selling it was very satisfying. I want more of that. But I struggle to compliment Skyrim. It's really not that good.
>>334949026
Some good tracks, but they're so few and far between.
Man Bethesda mismanages their IPs
>>334980991
>>334984746
Huh, I hadn't played in a while, so it's good to hear the guy fixed that issue with bandits or especially draugr of any kind just fucking tanking hits while you die in a couple unless you're wearing daedric gear.
Though once you're a legendary hero, you should be able to destroy groups of bandits with no real worries. If I'm level 50, only shit like dragons and dwemer machines or particularly powerful fighters should pose a threat to me, not just some cunts used to mugging farmers.
>>334985607
Some overhauls suck, you're right. I only usually like them if they're really modular, as in you can tweak shit, or just outright remove it if you hate it, like OOO did in Oblivion.
>>334994291
That's what I liked most about them to be honest, the default Iron and Steel weapons are the best designs in the base game, Dwemer clashes with it's golden hue and Glass sticks out almost as bad. Steel weapons are simple, but have just enough personality to make them beautiful.
>>334994404
Each to their own I guess, I'm the kinda guy who adores the Assassins Creed and Human Revolution soundtracks was too much, good ambiance really does it for me.
>>334994291
The aMidianBorn stuff is still there.
I dunno why the guy went with doing textures for the environments though, they weren't very good. But I must say he did an excellent job with armors and weapons, that stuff is amazing.
>>334994345
>2016 trying to actively justify pedophilia of any kind
and people wonder why the world as a whole is going down the shitter
just get comfy lads
>>334994461
I haven't seen any texture mods for vanilla clothes or the likes, just some recolor or change that's only slightly better but still not good enough even when maxed settings for graphics.
One in particular is the Mythic Dawn and Brotherhood robe set but in Skyrim they look like shit. Only mods out there either change it to some stupid looking skimpy thing or a slight recolor that doesn't change the actual texture quality.
Tittymonsters belong in >>>/tesg/
>>334994639
Everyone is a pedophile. Just few people admit to it and own up to it.
>>334994698
>I haven't seen any texture mods for vanilla clothes or the likes
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69784/
>>334950596
>turning your back on the empire Talos founded
Disgusting. If you retarded Nords had half a fucking brain between yourselves you'd realize that the Empire is gathering its forces to take the fight to the Thalmor and the White-Gold Concordant is a temporary feint to make them think they've won.
>>334994397
anything that doesn't shave the fuzzy belly?
>>334994698
dude cmon what is the rustic series
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69784/?
>>334994821
>>334994885
I'm not sure how I missed those before. I've searched for texture mods over and over going through tons of pages but never saw Rustic.
>>334994817
where do you honestly acquire such fucked up logic? did your parents abuse you when you were young?
>>334994868
Not that I know of.
>>334994973
i suggest going through the rest of his texture mods i really like the enchantment and alchemy table ones
>Mod game extensively
>Play game for some hours
>Stop but don't uninstall it all
>Come back again
>Update many mods that went outdated
>Cycle repeats
Every. Fucking. Time.
>>334993052
>bethseda
>uses the same engine for their games since 2002
>only a little lazy
People like you are the reason they don't have to try to make anything good. Any bullshit they pump out will automatically sell because of apologists like yourself.
>>334994371
Not to mention the fact that if it weren't for the Stormcloaks making so much noise, everyone could have continued to quietly worship Talos without much trouble, the Empire could have continued to ignore that part of the treaty.
>>334995084
when i feel that way a few good quest mods seems to do the tick for the it relights that spark again
>>334995363
Lots of video games use the same engine with tweaks. Throwing away code is a huge waste, and switching to another engine (whether home built or from a third party) is not only expensive, but also requires people to re-learn things, adding yet more cost and time to production.
>>334994560
>The aMidianBorn stuff is still there.
Those are just super-high-res versions of the vanilla models. The mod I'm talking about gave them whole new shapes. I think the modder's name was Dreogan.
>>334994868
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/5941/?
is a good start
>>334995364
Yep. The Thalmor barely enforced the Concordant until Ulfric started being a fag (it's implied the Thalmor tortured/mindfucked him into doing it to cause the Empire to fracture) and the rest is history.
General Tullius flat-out admits that the Empire is rallying its strength for a counter assault on the Thalmor too, but needs to quell the rebellion first so they can add their numbers to the fight. Ulfric and Tullius are literally fighting for the same thing.
>>334948876
You could mod it.I liked the soundtrack and some parts of the dilapidated villages.
>>334948876
I liked exploring and leveling the shit out of every tree. Being an alchemist-archbattlemage is pretty fun.
Also mods.
>>334994984
Maybe the logic is "Everyone is technically someone's child, so anyone who's attracted to someone else is technically a pedophile."
>>334983303
>Trying for a kid with your cute Ohmes-raht wife
>time the cycle so it will be Ohmes-raht too
>suddenly your wife goes into labour early
>your baby is born prematurely as a fucking Dagi
>>334995442
For a recent playthrough I got Sexlab Hormones, SlaveTats, and mods that invoked Devious Devices equipment, be it for equipping or extra penalties. The idea was to post a progress update every now and then on /trash/, and see what my Argonian lass would end up looking like after some milestones.
Biggest problem I ran into was the game slowing down to an absolute crawl in the Tamriel worldspace, and it makes fighting off groups of bandits outside of dungeons much more difficult for the wrong reasons. I do need to get some mod debloating done, just not sure where to start on that.
>>334995578
Pretty sure aMidianBorn had his own unique meshes for Skyforge Steel weapons that required a plugin, however subtle they may be.
Anyone else think it was kind of lazy of them to just say "children are always the mother's race"?
>>334996126
when my shit begins to chug or act weird after installing or removing script heavy mods i use Save cleaner and that usually make things better
>>334995489
It's fucking Bethesda, they're not exactly lacking funding. There is no reason besides laziness that they need to still use Gamebryo. It's a buggy piece of shit and it looks horrible.
>>334996513
Again, read what I fucking posted.
NO company just completely drops a fucking engine. Especially one they've used for ages.
Re-learning how to fucking develop is time consuming and costly, let alone the additional time and cost of getting another engine or building one in house.
>>334996632
Plus, you have to consider the possible impact on modding.
>>334996819
seriously its the 1 reason why people love these games is it malleability, like a crude iron that can be made into so many possibilities
>>334996171
It's some stupid Jew shit where they dropped kabbalah for literally no reason.
This from a jew.
>>334996398
Unless a mod has no scripts whatsoever, I tend to avoid removing mods in the middle of a playthrough. I know Sexlab and Devious Devices are quite taxing on the scripting engine as is already, but I'm just not too sure what others would be dragging the FPS down to the single digits with constant stutters when five bandits are charging at me in the middle of the game map, even with ENB toggled off temporarily. It's kind of disheartening to see videos of people playing the game with 2k everything and a lightweight ENB preset whilst at a stable framerate on a rig no better than yours.
That said, what's the general consensus to leave the values of these options in enblocal.ini?
>DataSyncMode=
>PriorityMode=
These are pretty new to me, but from what I've heard they're some performance/stability impacting shit.
>>334996632
YES THEY DO. HOLY SHIT. I'll give you a recent example from smaller developer. Remedy DROPPED the engine they used with Alan Wake for a completely new one they made just for Quantum Break. They don't make anywhere near the amount of money Bethesda does. They did it because they're competent and do what's best for the game.
Bethesda still uses that piece of shit engine because they're too lazy to figure out how to use a modern engine.
Could you imagine how shitty GTA 5 would be if it ran on the GTA 3 engine? Thank god Rockstar isn't lazy like Bethesda.
They already take fucking forever to put out a sequel to their games. Fallout 3 came out in 2008 and we didn't get 4 until 2015. I know they went straight to Skyrim but that was still 3 fucking years. Gamebryo is an inefficient piece of shit, any ES or Fallout modder could tell you that.
They make decent games, but they're super lazy and could be making way better games if they actually gave a shit. Any other company would burn at the fucking stake if they pulled this shit. But because they make Fallout they get a free pass. Fuck that.
>>334997178
Wait. They used a different engine for a completely different style of game? WOW. WHAT A SHOCK.
Also
>Remedy
>Competent
>Does what's best for the game
Show me a fucking example where any company drops an engine for a sequel outright.
>>334995084
Worst part is when the mods that need updating require a new save game or else it screws with your current game. I can never get my character to any satisfying high level because of it, but the mods are great.
>>334994274
I guess I can see why people dislike Cicero, clowns are... polarizing, but man, Cicero was like the only dude who was ready to stick with you through thick and thin in the end no matter how obnoxious an impression he made.
>>334966918
Are you implying that skyrim did?
>>334948876
Other than removing stats and putting in the skill tree I don't have any major issues with the game.
Seriously though I still don't understand that decision. Did Bethesda think having stats was too complicated for players?
>>334997921
You'd be amazed at the stupidity of the average person.
>>334948876
Visual design.
Music.
Sound design.
Atmosphere.
Everything else was kinda meh.
>>334993319
No it just crashes 90% of the time you load a new cell.
>>334998273
stable ugridstoload fixes that m8
>>334997437
Yeah, and looking back I should have probably let the idiot live.....I was just too caught up in everything to think about it.
>>334997309
I kind of wish Skyrim's scripting engine was a bit less anal in that regard. With Oblivion you could generally remove most mods in the middle of a playthrough just fine.
Guess this is one downside to having an active scene, too. Oblivion's modding scene went quiet after Skyrim got released five years in its life, and now Skyrim is approaching its fifth birthday and is still going strong.
Does Fallout 4 also have this fuck up?
>>334998262
>Visual design
Pretty boring and repetitive desu.
>>334997921
Actually another problem I had is that every interaction with an NPC felt so scripted. At least in Oblivion they'd walk around and sort of talk to each other and it would be just a regular conversation. In Skyrim anytime two NPCs were talking it was usually the beginning of some side quest and it made the world feel very artificial.
>>334948876
Honestly the one thing that this game did wrong for me that could have almost redeemed it entirely....was the lack of enemy variety.
I remember when I'd clear out a tomb in morrowind at high levels there was no telling what kind of horrible shit I'd find in there from Dremora, to any number of Atronach, to Golden Saints, and then those creepy ass Lamprey things ( I forget the names).
In skyrim it was always Falmer or Draugr....with almost nothing else. The mechanical stuff in the dwarven ruins did break the cycle from time to time but you'd think the tombs would have some other shit wander in there from time to time instead of consistently being filled with different flavors of the same fucking zombie, aside from the very few that had a boss in them (I remember running into the teleporting archer guy really early on...that was fun).
It did a lot of other shit wrong but it was minor by comparison, at least imo.
>>334998537
>Oblivion
>Regular conversation
Please.
>>334998537
Son, you need to play Morrowindwith LGNPC. It's a shame how much was given up to have voice acting.
>>334998795
It's obvious the NPCs were just using voice clips they would use for you and used inputs they would use but at least when they talked to each other it was just them talking and not the intro to some quest for some shit they were arguing about.
>>334998262
>visual design
>only slightly more interesting than Oblivion
>totally shit on by Morrowind
Vvardenfall was a _real_ fantasy world.
The lack of stats and how watered down the skills and perks were really grinded my shit. I couldn't even make a class. It sort of ruined the game for me. I played it for eight hours and got bored.
I really liked the artstyle too, that's one thing Oblivion lacked. The atmosphere was kinda boring, I feel like there isn't a drop of originality amongst the nords. Just WE ARE NORTHMEM VIKINGS HINGA DINGA DURGEN
The new the Argonians and Khajiit got a much-needed makeover and new voice actors. These were both good things.
>>334999435
>Argonians
>liking their raspy chain-smoker voices
You're lying to yourself if you think it was good.It was perfect ;_;
>>334999096
>talking with friend(let's call him dude)
>dude usually just talks out his ass and pretends he knows what he's talking about
>"Yeah anon I think Bethesda is just gonna follow the formula they did with Skyrim"
>"Well yeah Dude they made it for a pretty general audience and got a lot of money as a result"
>"Not just that anon but people responded to it better like the setting was really inspired and had obvious Celtic roots"
>"Yeah that's cause the Nords are based on-"
>"Unlike Morrowind which just sorta had some kind of random unidentifiable areas"
>"Dude it's called a fantasy setting"
>"Hmm I think people responded to Skyrim's setting better"
>"Well I think they just preferred the really easy and forgiving gameplay"
>"Actually anon the gameplay isn't really that different from Morrowind and Oblivion"
>mfw
>>334969125
you fucking wot m8
Shield bashing, the whole "I fight against my nature every day is that better than people who are naturally good?" and they made bows actually useful
Music was good too.
Everything else was shit.
>>334994984
>where do you honestly acquire such fucked up logic?
Made a few movies then escaped to France.
>>334998537
Skyrim NPCs will have regular conversations, too, and they don't always start quests. Also, instead of every NPC talking to every other NPC about mudcrabs or the Fighters Guild looking for new members, Skyrim NPCs actually have conversations written specifically for the two of them that are much more detailed and actually reflect their characters.
>>335001513
Problem is that they'll repeat that whole conversation every 5 minutes since there's not much more to talk about.
>I went to that haunted ruin, and saw a ghost!
>I told you to stay away from there
>I'm sorry, I won't do it again
>I went to that haunted ruin, and saw a ghost!
>>334988146
>Or else people wouldn't still fucking be playing it to this day
M O D S
>>334957092
Is that a screencap from wizards101?
>>334959323
>>334962679
>>334993674
You don't have to samefag bro just put all the points in one post
>>334974650
you know, normally I would agree with a post like this but Skyrim's gameplay is by far the worst part of it.
You're a faggot.
>>334995640
Tullius is a blunt headed military cunt who doesn't even get invited to Elewyn's functions so he knows fuck all about intrigue, his Legate is a better info gatherer then he is. What is not to say Titus is basically kissing the heel of the Altmer while going on Skooma parties at the Katariah?
Ulfric wanted his glorious end in battle and the Emperor could have given it to him at any time, but they didn't. Instead lives were wasted on an unconditional surrender. Had they just bent the knee without a imperial legionaire dying things would have turned out differently.
>>334981787
the one that called that bad ass dragon from the soul cairn
How do I make fem argonians not have the shitty head designs they have now
>>335004267
By using mods.
>>334976607
I killed everyone once I had the gold
>>334970816
NPCs are either completely immortal (Important quest NPCs). Able to be killed by you but not enemies (Followers). Or able to be killed by everything. What you're describing doesn't happen.
>>334948876
Bows are pretty fun.
>>334993025
no i mean that in oblivion you had quests that took place in town and were more story based. like the one with the crazy guy behind the church in skingrad, the haunted house in anvil, most of the dark brotherhood quests, the one where you sleep in that boat in and it gets kidnapped, just to name a few.
believe me, I put like 150 hours in on skyrim when I was a pleb, I know what kinds of quests it had.
>>334948876
No. Everything Skyrim did, Oblivion did better.
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