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>>334929459
Sounds about right.
JUST
>>334929459
Most of these reveiews are cases of GIT GUD
it's increasing
>nintendo begins handling their own PR with Direct
>nintendo stops playing ball with gamejournopros
>nintendo game reviews drop from 10/10 UNIVERSAL ACCLAIM to 7/10 "meh" to 5/10 "nindendo sux"
>nintendo-exclusive games like Bayonetta get criticized as "media for sexist shitlords" 7/10 from Polygon
>sony games that pay the payola like MGS5 get 9/10 despite Quiet "sexism" from Polygon
>>334930865
Sounds about right
>>334930609
giant bomb stinker pulled it down by a lot of points.
it's not really a surprise.
everyone predicted a mid-70 score. (at the time of posting the score is still rising i am gay)
>>334930865
I prefer nintendo getting harsh but fair scores than shit like meme soul and witcher getting 100's based on the dev hype radar on twitter.
>>334929459
that's a good score considering 50 is average
>>334930865
>>334930947
MGSV was a multi plat that was payed off by Konami NOT Sony. They had people play the game under huge surveillance and only chapter 1.
>>334930865
MGSV actually had a bit more control over reviewers than is typical for the industry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVPqMpZmn48
Yes, this is real.
I expect Nintendo pull a Mystery Dungeon with later releases in the series and not send out review copies at all, because critics today cannot STAND skill based games. You see people panning the game for being short...? SF64 was shorter, and I've been playing that regularly for seventeen years. The complaints about the controls? They never bothered to learn that you don't nee to aim at every little thing. The complaints about the visuals...? Who cares?
>>334931397
>skill based games
Jesus, shill
72 now.
>>334931147
>50 is average
That's a weird way to spell 83.
>>334931147
>not knowing reviews mirror the american education system, where a 70 is just barely passing
>>334929459
DELETE THIS
>>334930609
LOL no its not you stupid fucking drone
>>334929459
>caring what "critics" think
>>334929459
Neo-Nintendo at it again.
I said it a thousand times, but here goes:
Skipping the wii u, as a life long nintendo fan, was the best video game decision of my life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8a-WctBS8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8a-WctBS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8a-WctBS8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8a-WctBS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8a-WctBS8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8a-WctBS8
>>334931397
>reviewers are just complaining about the controls, don't like skill-based games, and are just bitching about the graphix
Or maybe there's more to it.
Mods are booty busted, prepare for deletion.
>>334929459
i was expecting sub 50s
>>334934217
What? You don't like memes, Anon?
seriously its fucking metacritic
are you retards actually going here and sincerely taking in everything you read
die
>>334934115
Only matters when a Sony game gets a bad score, right?
>>334934279
KI:U is better than SF0 in every conceivable way
Fucking pathetic
>Looking at the metacritic page
>Side bar showing off "Current" Wii U games
>One of these is Xenoblade Chronicles X
So this is how starved the Wii U is for games. Something released in December of 2014 is considered current.
>>334934427
Wew
I wonder how many times you've shitposted about the order 1886
>"guys reviews matter when we compare are shitty but somehow well reviewed games with your game that also got a similiar but slightly lower score"
>game thats obviously shit gets shit review
"REVIEWS DONT MATTER MUH BARREL ROLL JUST G-G-GIT GUD"
If this games tanks then will we get more Kid Icarus in its place?
>>334934526
Uh...
>>334934557
good one moron
go back to metacritic
>>334934629
No you'll get Mario flying 69
>>334934629
I would love another KI game the caliber of Uprising, maybe they will take the hint and make a sequel for the NX
>>334934217
Fucking, neo-nintendo and their memes.
I hope this sells very very few units.
>>334934486
And it was a 3DS game.
>>334934738
doesn't seem like a likely concept.
>check review scores
>nintendo drone sites are the only ones to give it 9/10
>>334935067
>checking review scores
why not form the opinion yourself?
>>334934526
>2014
What
The videos I saw uploaded of that playthrough really look like they were fighting the motion controls the whole game. I'm not surprised that the pointless gimmicks didn't work out.
Again.
>>334934762
>Kid Icarus NX game
>Platinum assists development
>Flight section play like a good starfox level
>Ground sections play like Bayonetta with multiple weapon types you can switch between that all have ranged and melee functionality like Uprising
>>334935220
my opinion is it looks like shit. Are you upset?
>>334935220
>release date April 22nd
![[HorribleSubs] One-Punch Man - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_21.10_[2015.12.06_15.23.53].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QwCqcpo.jpg "[HorribleSubs] One-Punch Man - 10 [720p].mkv snapshot 21.10 [2015.12.06 15.23.53]")
>most of the reviews essentially criticizing the game for being too much like SF64 in structure
>when that was the whole fucking point
Like, from what I'm seeing, the game seems to be a solid 7/10
Problem is, Star Fox's "classic" formula is more archaic than many people remember. People seemed to hate Assault's inclusion of on-foot segments but it most likely did that because just the Arwing formula wasn't enough to sustain a full game unless they structure it like SF64 (which they seemed to do, and even then it still got criticized for doing just that)
>>334935220
>JUST GIVE NINTENDO YOUR MONEY GOYIM
>>334935313
no. but how do you know it's shit if you haven't played it.
>>334931397
>Critics today can't stand skill based games
>Critics suck rocket league and souls game's dicks all the time
>Star fox being a skill game
>>334935439
>Rocket Leauge
>Souls
>skill based
>>334929459
We tried to tell you, OP.
>>334934557
Are you saying you actually defend the Order 1886?
>>334935514
>I have never played rocket league
Got it.
>>334935514
>star fox
>skill based
>>334935439
>souls
>skill based
wew. haven't seen this meme in a long time
>>334935372
>archaic
I never understood why this is a complaint.
Is variety an old concept or something? Do people not want to see an improvement on an old formula without raping it sideways like Square does?
>>334930865
D E S P E R A T E
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>>334935623
certainly more skill based than star fox
>>334934115
I'm sure you would be saying the same thing if the score was 90.
>>334935630
Not saying it's bad, but the formula as it was in SF64 isn't enough to fill out a $60 game and people need to understand that
Star fox has only had one great game in its whole franchise and that came out in the 90s.
People need to stop pretending it's a solid franchise.
>>334935785
Hence the improvement part.
Add new elements without changing the core gameplay
>lowest score complains about the game being possible to finish in 3 hours
>in a game with multiple routes and extreme replay value
>>334935854
Yes, but more unique content needs to be added in order to make it feel fresh AND long.
Assault was the best example but people got buttmad over MUH FOOT SECTIONS even though it could've been refined to be a lot smoother
>>334929459
what were you expecting?
nintendo was, and will be shit
>>334934838
Would've been even better on Wii U
>>334935987
Nobody ever wanted on foot sections in star fox. It's pretty much the exact opposite of what you want to do in those games.
>>334935987
>Yes, but more unique content needs to be added in order to make it feel fresh AND long.
And you can do that without changing the core gameplay, Pokemon has been doing it for years and so has Smash.
>>334935878
>extreme replay value
I knew this game would be awful from the moment they explained the shitty controls. Only the nintendo apologists will defend this game.
>>334931147
50 is a failing grade.
>>334935878
You make a good point, judging time for these kind of game is pointless. Vanquish was a short game but i loved it. SF0 doesn't look good to me though.
>>334936084
That's like saying Chrono Trigger is short because you can blitz Lavos in the early game.
>>334935878
>replay value
IT SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TIME WHAT THE FUCK
i prefered the snes release over the 64 release.
all i see are rehashed levels with heaping helpings of stale copy pasta.
this is some serious bulshit and they expect $60 fucking dollerydoos for this?
>>334934486
It puzzles me why they didn't get Sakurai to work on Zero instead of Miyamoto
>>334936173
>MUH GRAPHICS
fuck your shit I rather have 60fps than that shit
>>334936183
>>334936084
So what, are you saying video games shouldn't have reasons to replay?
This is why video games are dying.
>>334936195
Do you really have nothing better to do than falseflag?
>>334929459
>be nintendo
>make star fox
>ambitious project but ultimately disappointed with your own product
>create faster super fx chip to alleviate frame rate issues
>extensively optimize the engine for the sequel
>ultimately still not fast enough, make the expensive decision to push the project to next gen
>new engine from the ground up
>target finally getting the feeling of real flight
>get the game running fast enough to convey that feeling to players
>release to public
>critical and commercial hit
>still beloved by many today
>fast forward to the future
>make every single star fox game a slow, floaty, and artificial feeling piece of shit that's too hard for casuals and too unresponsive for veterans
>tack on gimmicks
The irony is fucking real.
Also fuck platinum for not saving the series from nintendo's bullshit, rather they've embraced it.
>>334929459
please tell me about your feelings
>>334936253
With SF0 you get neither! Enjoy your stuttering 40fps.
>>334936253
The best part is that Vanquish looked horrendous
>>334936081
not him, but pokemon hasn't been fresh in at least 10 years.
>>334934217
I think thats actually kinda funny.
>>334936010
>nintendo was, and will be shit
I laughed at this way more than I should of
Ps4 owners= good looking, intelligent, educated and employed in a respectable field, fit and healthy, kind people, and productive members of society
Xbox owners= not as intelligent or educated as ps4 owners, but are employed and productive to society, generally chill people who like games and are competitive
Wii U owners= usually overweight and have unhealthy diets, unemployed or employed in shit jobs, live with parents, waifu fags, buy amiibos and toys for children
PC gamers= could be anyone but what they all have in common is they masturbate a lot
Idorts= cool people who really love games, and have the income to support their huge libraries, usually like ps4 bros
http://www.strawpoll.me/10000840
>>334935987
>make it feel fresh AND long.
Nintendo tends to do this in exchange of adding depth and and discovery to their game. i's not a good strategy.
Don't worry, Wii U fans! You still have Sticker Star 2! And Zeld- oh wait that's getting brought over to NX
>they fired a secret prostitute and I'm upset at goobergaters on the internet
>7/10
>>334936219
The funny thing about all this is, especially after Command, I think most fans were fucking tired of it all and wanted to go back to the 64 era.
Nintendo took that request too literally, it seems.
Wii U owners, it's not too late to join the winning team.
Sell your wii u and buy a ps4, today. :^)
>>334936265
of course, they should be cinematic experiences where you hype before playing then it dies and you move to the next popular game
>>334935878
The replay value in Zero is bonus medals.
They changed the games structure to a mission select.
>>334936316
>Also fuck platinum for not saving the series from nintendo's bullshit, rather they've embraced it.
They didn't start working on the game until after the E3 debacle. If they had been given the project from the start it would've been GOAT.
Gonna sell all my Nintendo stuff now. All I want to play now is Knack, Bloodborne and Talledega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby.
>>334936396
Ironically gen 4 was the least inspired generation in that regard copying pretty much everything from gen 3.
Every other generation changed a lot or added something new.
>>334935785
starfox 64 was 50-$60 when it came out in 97
>>334936195
Your only option is to buy a ps4 at this point
>>334936232
Because Sakurai's working on Smash
And Kamiya, the only other dev who's interested in Star Fox, is working on Scalebound
Miyamoto isn't working on anything and he is the original creator so obviously he would get the job
>>334936668
Sorry, I like games rather than movies.
>>334936629
Every addition since the special split hasn't done anything to keep this fresh because they still recycle everything about the game's campaign.
>>334936409
>>334936513
>>334936668
Idort here
Why buy games on PS4 when the huge bulk of it's library are on PC
:^)
>>334936253
>>334936372
>he thinks i'm talking about graphics
I'm taking about gameplay being short which vanquish is. Holy shit nintendrones get so defensive. No wonder you're the punching bag right now.
So after all the years, the only good game for wii u is autism cart?
>>334936640
And we also have different standards today that are expected of game based on its cost.
>>334936756
Why buy a PC when the huge bulk of its library is on PS4?and Xbone for that matter
It's 72 now, and is a fair score. Most of the reviews complain about the same things we already did in the past months.
>Gamepad aiming is unreliable
>Dual screen is intrusive
>A re-telling of 64 is lame and wasted potential
>It's hard to justify $50 price tag, for the little content included.
>>334934462
stop projecting anon
>>334936841
Because Xbone and PS4 can't handle 600 FPS son
>fanbase bitches and moans that no SF game is as good as 64
>game gets shit on for being too much like 64
I HATE EVERY SINGLE NOSTALGIA FAGGOT
I HATE ALL OF YOU
YOU FUCKING DID THIS
YOU WOULDN'T STOP WHINING AND COMPLAINING
YOU REFUSED TO GROW UP
NOW YOU KILLED AN IP
WAY TO FUCKING GO, NOSTALGIAKEKS
FUCK YOU ALL
>>334936820
And kids playing with toy guns, I guess.
>>334936841
Because PS4 or Xbone actually have 0.001% of PC's library
>>334936750
Gen 5 and 6 changing the campaign more than 4.
That said the Split was a nigh unnoticable difference when it came to the base game and like I said it copied nearly every other element from gen 3, while 5 and 6 introduced new battle modes and mega evolution.
>>334936776
They are outright calling this a media conspiracy. Of course they are being defensive.
It''s the same shit I've seen every time a nintendo game disappoints. Media conspiracy, demanding proof from people who dislike the game that they bought it and played it all the way through, calling them all secret sony fanboys and pointing at other games and trying to deflect.
Every time.
>>334929459
>Platinum
>good
Pick one and only one
>>334935427
>how do you know it's real shit if you haven't taste it yet?
Not him but seriously?
>>334936941
neither can star shit 0.
>>334936463
i dont mind how the 64 game felt, but i sure as hell minded how it played.
lets STOP COMBAT to talk about how we are SUPPOSED TO BE IN COMBAT.
hey, that glowing thing there, incase you didnt notice it, lets all TRY TALKING TO YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU NOTICE THAT THING, ya know, that THING, the GLOWING THING, yeah, now the glowing thing has a big flasing arrow hovering above it, but just in case you managed to not see it as we TAKE YOUR VIEWPOINT HOSTAGE AND FORCE YOU TO LOOK AT IT, we will now be TALKING AGAIN ABOUT IT.
fuck that noise, i just wanted a hard as fuck, no hand holding, no nonsense starfox game similar to what the snes did, jump in, fuck up some fighters, move onto the next bounty.
why do they keep reusing THE SAME GOD DAMN STORY?! the SAME fucking planets. the SAME fucking contrived plotline.
is there nobody in charge at nintendo that has even A SINGLE SHRED of creativity and new ideas?
>>334937004
PS4 and Xbone can't even handle 30.
>>334936950
There was a time when people could make good games in their franchises without every game being either a remake or retelling of an old one.
The last two starfox games are a 64 remake and a 64 retelling.
Is this it? Is it finally time?
W101 and dktf got shitty reviews, I'll buy a solid B starfox
>>334936967
I bet you'd love to prove that
>>334937028
>hard as fuck
>what the snes did
Anon Star Fox SNES wasn't even hard
>>334937028
Gameplay > Story
Story in video games is the most useless element and the only thing it's done since the introduction is take the focus away from gamplay which is being neglected more and more with each passing generation.
>>334936968
the new battle modes and mega evolution didn't do much to keep them fresh either.
It's all minor stuff while you still just pick your same base starter types from SMALL TOWN and run off the get 8 badges while occasionally fighting rivals and BAD GUY GROUP until you go to the elite four and beat the champion and then probably have shit all for post game besides legendaries.
>>334936950
People don't hate it because it's like 64
People hate it because it's a shitty gimmick filled gyroscope aiming piece of shit.
The people crying about how its NOT A FIT IN THE MARKET ANYMORE are just idiots who didn't even like star fox to begin with
JUST
Wait, gyrosccopic aiming is the only aiming option?
>>334937267
>the new battle modes and mega evolution didn't do much to keep them fresh either.
Be honest here, did you even play those games?
>>334937357
No you can disable it.
>Sticker Star 2
>waifu idol panty quest
>The Legend of Zelda: Vaporware
Great, so I'm stuck with a $350 Mario Kart machine.
Never buy a console at launch, kids.
>>334929459
Metacritic scores tend to drop after time.
>>334937028
>TAKE YOUR VIEWPOINT HOSTAGE AND FORCE YOU TO LOOK AT IT
Are you talking about Zero or 64 here?
If Zero, then damn that is some fucking bullshit. Wasn't aware the game handholded you that much before.
>>334937171
>W101: 78 Average on Metacritic
>Tropical Freeze: 83 Average on Metacritic
>Shitty
I bet you think anything below a 70 is shit
>>334929459
toddlers on suicide watch
>>334937496
>I bet you think anything below a 70 is shit
You do realise that's what the majority of this thread is doing right?
Starfox Adventures is the only good game in the franchise and you know it
>>334937393
I did, do you want picture proof or what?
Mega evolutions is functionally just like using a different pokemon minus a hold item, 2v2 3v3 and the swarm fights were never that good and didn't happen as often.
>>334937431
I'm seeing mine as a $300 Mario level printer, and I bought mine in 2014.And an amiibo trainer.
Nintendo should not be surprised if NX sales aren't huge at launch after the crap they pulled with this.
>>334937431
Here's a tip. If you can't list at least five games on a system you want you shouldn't buy it.Also you have shit taste m8
>>334935298
>Trusting Platinum to do ranged combat properly
Eh...
...maybe.
They're getting better at it.
>>334937249
metal smasher and galactic rider are a fucking bitch, atomic base II and spinning core are sucky at best
hard, but fun
>yfw there people who are STILL going to buy the NX AT LAUNCH AGAIN
>>334936983
>>334936983
Isn't this what every fanbase does? You really think it's just Nintendo drones?
Come on. Get real.
>>334938068
they'll then spend 4 years complaining about people not buying it and being mad at other companies. Business as usual.
>>334935439
>souls
>skill based
If that one gamegrumps retard can beat the games by spamming dodge and face tanking every possible enemy then no, the games are not skill based.
So how long is Star Fox's story in this game? Did Platinum learn to NOT shove a billion cutscenes everywhere? Or is this gonna be Starfox Command 2.0?
>>334938068
>He doesn't want a system that launches with a Mario game, a Zelda game, a Smash game, and Splatoon all on day 1
Nah, it makes more sense to buy a console that not only won't have anything one day one, but nothing on year one either. Jackass.
>>334936756
I respect your opinion bro, however I feel that the exclusives and upcoming games it has to offer are worth the minor cost of 400 dollars. It's all up to whether you can afford it or not.
>>334938123
I've never seen a fanbase hug the conspiracy line as hard as nintendo fans on criticism, or get as outright offensive about people not liking something so as to demand proof of critics to show they both currently own a game and beat it completely.
I have seen that from nintendo fans.
Once I get bored with Super Mario Maker (which is slowly happening), I'm selling my Wii U.
WHO /deflectingtoSony/ HERE?
>>334937395
Why would you lie on the internet?
>>334938187
command 1.5 with added gimmics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scztIQwAcWU
>>334938328
>launches games I played on the Wii U
WOOHOO
>>334938345
I've seen that from literally every single console fanbase throughout the Internet. PC as well. If you think it's just Nintendo you are delusional.
>>334938123
Pretty much
Nintendofags and shit like this
Sonyggers and shit like paid online and movies
Xbots and sharing their games with PC essentially making their purchase moot
And so on.
Anyone saying that one is worse than the other is a colossal retard.
>>334938356
I'm building a PC. I'll be able to emulate Wii U games in a year anyways.
>>334938356
>Super Mario Maker
I have stopped playing that game altogether, I have more fun playing Mario Romhacks.
>>334936997
I'm not talking about shit. I'm talking about how would he know if the game is bad if he hasn't played it.
>>334929459
People expected SF: Adventure 2 + Assault missions. Zero it´s just a N64 remake with better voices, it´s shit
>>334937641
>Mega evolutions is functionally just like using a different pokemon minus a hold item
You are aware how having multiple pokemon capable of mega evolution could affect the game right? Especially when it comes to PvP.
Then there are ones that change type changing the weaknesses and resistances on the fly.
I don't think you're aware as to how game changing they actually were and it seems to me that you're just writing them off as a gimmick.
Doubles happened a lot in gen 3 especially in Emerald where being seen by two separate trainers would initiate a double battle
Triples added a new game mode for the several post game facilities in the game requiring more thought than with the previous double battles especially with the attack restrictions.
Rotations are essentially single battles but your first three pokemon are on the field and can rotate essentially giving them a turn where they can switch and attack.
Why am I even explaining this to you, you're clearly the same type of person that would mash through using the bare essentials.
>>334937482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBEKr7s2sc8
zero
it literally goes, HOL THE FUCK UP
>>334938541
PC doesn't have all the Disgaea games. That's literally the only reason why I haven't gone to it yet.
>>334938639
I get occasional bursts but I think I've made up enough levels. Feel like I'm just repeating gimmicks. Plus with half the game being HOLD B/DON'T MOVE AUTOMATIC and the other being 5 year olds throwing shit together, it gets stale.
>>334938442
Wait, are you sure this is Star Fox Zero's ending? It just looks like Starfox 64s ending in HD.
And I like Starfox 64, but did they really rehash it that much? Or was that the point? I don't know. This was supposed to be a reboot of the first star fox I think.
>thought nintendo fan's were one of the better company fanbases on /v/ for a long time
>skip to 2015 and continue on to now
>it's one of the worst due to their neogaf-like defensiveness, all starting with desperately defending NoA and not even the games themselves
>kirby fans also got annoying in the past few years
Feels... strangely good to see these shitposting threads.
>>334938694
So, where does it happen?
Becase what I'm seeing here is a lock on activated and deactivated by the player.
>>334938803
like i said before
STALE COPY PASTA
this is starfox zeros ending.
>>334938876
>thought nintendo fan's were one of the better company fanbases on /v/ for a long time
How?
>>334938803
Its not a reboot its a retelling
Think Metroid Zero Mission.
>>334937721
I actually think the wii u is the best console and I've had a ps4 since release and wii u.
mario 3d
frozen dong
mario kart
nsmb wii u
mario maker
zelda remakes (I wanted to replay ww anyway)
pikman 3
bayonetta 2
w101
nintendo land was fun with bros, surprisingly
xenobladeToad treasure tracker and devils third
I haven't played splatoon, smash, or hyrule warriors but I imagine they're decent too.
ps4 i've only had use for bloodborne and destiny. BB was okay, but I like the souls series more and I play those, except for DeS on pc.
I was excited for star fox, but this control scheme just seems like it's too much trouble and could have been done with dual sticks
>>334938068
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/02/rumour_ea_and_nintendo_looking_to_rekindle_unprecedented_partnership_on_nx
Not really, no. If the EA rumor is complete true, then the NX is a sport streaming DVD box with a controller very similar to the Dualshocker 2 with rearranged buttons. Then you have a PS4 and Xbone but with Mario instead of FROM.
>>334938993
Every day.
You post this every fucking day.
>>334938898
right AFTER the force field is deactivated. it took the camera hostage and went
>where is the beam coming from
as it zoomed into the entrance where the chicken walker was right after it went down
>>334938876
>all starting with desperately defending NoA
Spotted the retard, no one defends NoA here or anywhere.
>>334935878
> multiple routes
You mean how you select a planet from the screen, go into the special portal (that is the only alternative) and then doing the small kill 50 enemies or collect coin stage?
Yeah I really want waste my time on that. Even nintendrone reviewers said they were obviously rushed
>>334938876
Works both ways, sadly. Those who dismiss Nintendo 100% of the time since they entered the Western markets are just as dumb and useless as those who defend every decision they make online.
>>334939008
Eh, I'm not a fan of any of those games. The platformers are too casual, and the rest are filled with gimmicks, like Bayonetta's finishers which are glorified cutscenes where you watch her flip around and kill enemies, or Xenoblade where you sit still and watch your party attack braindead monsters.
It's honestly no better than the PS4 or Xbox's lineups which consist of mediocre titles like Knack, and VERY overrated titles like Bloodborne or Halo 5.
>>334938987
It's all relative.
Though Sony's used to be the worst since they fought against everyone. Also kinda glad PCfags shit on them a lot.
>>334939029
>EA once again wanting to support Nintendo but then 6 months later abandon them
Wow it's gonna happen again
>>334939008
>pretty fun but gets old quick
>same problem
>not a fan of racing but that's me
>ANOTHER 2d mario
>fun but online is shit
>ww is good, TP is horse shit
>not a fan but that's me
>actually good
>fun
>n0
>my GOTY
>fun but gets lame later
Either the games are crap or I'm just not enjoying them anymore. I'm glad someone else is happy with their games.
>>334939043
I'm not even the same anon who does but its true.
Is Star Fox Zero legitimately good? From what I've seen of the trailers it looks interesting.
>>334938068
There are people who already bought the NX at launch?
>>334935372
Maybe they shouldn't have pandered to nostalgiafags and actually made a good game. Assault was god-tier.
>>334939206
It's more like
>EA wants Nintendo to belly roll over like Sony and Microsoft because the sports games are easy money every fucking year but Nintendo doesn't want to have Origin be required to get EA games to work
>>334936316
No shit. Kamiya sucks ninty's chode like his life depends on it.
>>334939128
>Xenoblade X
>Fire Emblem Fates
Endless posts of nothing but "da weebz" "yuh waifus", "da pedos", "muh shitposter obsession which I can't shut the fuck up about" which all snowballed into defending against even normal criticism half the time. Luckily not everyone was like that, and it's calmed down just a bit. Even /feg/ and /xbcxg/ were better than /v/.
>>334934738
there's been an on-rails mario game before?
>>334934413
Post the full masterpiece anon. Please.
>platinum in charge of making a good game
>>334939084
Are you retarded? You are aware the gamepad is a thing and you can play solely using that right?
>>334939361
If you want Starfox 64-2, buy it.
>>334939486
Kamiya didn't touch SF0. Too busy making The Last Guardian: Dragon Hand Nero Remix
>>334938764
>5 year olds throwing shit together
Exactly! those shit together stages are pretty much Jap shit stages with no fuckin thought put into them thats why I stay away from the '100 Mario Challenge on Super Expert'.
>>334937721
Get real, anon.
/v/ buys systems, then begs the rest of spoonfeeding assholes on /v/ to tell them what games to buy, and also what the games are after they bought them, so they don't have to play them.
>>334939647
you got reading comprehension issues son?
>>334939536
Yoshi's Safari.
Why do people keep bringing up platinum? We knew from the start they were just doing asset creation?
Did you all convince yourself they had some super cool secret part in making the game?
>>334939642
>bait so bad it's good
>>334939206
Well after the debacle with the Wii U, they may have no choice now. The Jap investors want to see Nintendo turn a serious profit now.
>>334939821
>We knew from the start they were just doing asset creation?
Why do people keep saying that?
I seem to remember Nintendo delaying SF0 to "nail down the Platinum Games feel".
Cite your sources faggot.
>>334936579
>Billy Hatcher
>Nintendo
>Hating on Billy Hatcher
fuck off retarded sonydrone
>>334939219
>>ANOTHER 2d mario
Fun fact, there has only been 4 2d Mario games in about 12 years not counting VC re-releases.
>>334938764
>>334939725
This is why I didn't buy Mario Maker. Any game that relies on user generated content is bound to be 90% shit, and I can't justify paying $60 for something like that.
>>334939839
nice false flag faggot.
>>334939361
Depends on what you're interested in.
If you want a game like 64, that's pretty much what Zero is.
If you don't mind (or, god forbid, embrace) the gimmicky controls, Zero will at least be tolerable.
If you're a graphics whore, you won't like Zero.
>>334939801
Reading comprehension has nothing to do with it.
You're complaining at a non issue.
if 7/10 is bad then why don't we just use the 5 star system? seems like 1-5 are just useless on the 10 scale
>>334938345
That's hilarious considering part of the usual spiel from sonyggers on /v/ for why Bloodborne didn't win GOTY is its exclusivity
I can't comment on Xboners since they're so rare
>>334940192
7/10 was a D+ in high school.
>>334940167
>gimmicky controls
You are aware that the motion controls are optional right?
>>334939980
I justified it for the longest time. I absolutely love making things in games. I can lose hours in games like Super Mario Maker andMinecraft.
But I get why someone wouldn't like it.
>>334940267
You're aware they aren't, right?
>>334939980
bingo, all i imagine is annons in a circle jerking each other off while eating shit
>mmm this is so good
>i know, mine has nuts in it
>mine is curry flavored
>its so good, this has some corn
>mediocre game gets mediocre score
Wow, why does everyone hate nintendy lads?
>>334938993
No, Zero Mission is a remake, with a director's cut sequence at the end. This isn't supposed to be that.
Remember when Sony owned NeoGAF?
>>334938345
>or get as outright offensive about people not liking something so as to demand proof of critics to show they both currently own a game and beat it completely.
Literally every fanbase does this.
Call Bloodborne shit?
>HURR POST PROOF YOU LYING NIGGER
>sold it
>POST TROPHIES
Shit on Splatoon
>see above, remove trophies
Shit on whatever the Xbox hasThey have no games but I imagine it would be the same thing but with achievements
In any case actions like that are completely justified as to single out people who are just shitposting.
>>334940468
SF0 is pretty much that, same game with new content
>>334940576
And shit controls
>>334940576
No. Star Fox 64 3D is pretty much that. Star Fox Zero is a game that proves that Nintendo and Shiggy have no idea how to push the series forward and just do the 2nd retelling of Star Fox on the SNES.
>>334929459
Nintendo is in for a rough patch with their upcoming games. Federation Force and Color Splash are going to get critically panned (rightfully so, they're going to be mediocre-awful) and I can't see TMS doing that well critically either. Kirby, Rhythm Heaven, and Pokemon will do fine, but all those are 3DS games and Pokemon won't be out until November at the earliest.
Nintendo needs to pull some good games out of their ass for the NX.
Why are people surprised when a series perpetuated by remaking the same 5/10 SNES tech demo gets a 5/10?
>>334929459
>complain game is too short
>complain game is too long
What's up with reviewers nowadays? Literally complaining about everything.
>>334940328
They can be disabled, we've known about this for a while.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/06/nintendo_says_that_star_fox_zeros_gyro_controls_can_be_turned_off
If you're going to shitpost do it with something people can't disprove with a simple google search
>>334940271
Mario Maker is a good game sadly plagued by insane japanese stages which I expect a 2 year old of doing
>>334940698
If they aren't paid or bribed with something they pick out something regardless of if it makes sense or not to complain about.
>>334934279
Kid Icarus was absolutely gorgeous for a 3ds game and had a fake-out ending that gave it the impression of being a far longer game
>>334940726
How is it a good game again? You can't even play as different characters unless they're reskins of Mario.
Why can't I play as Luigi with his SMB2 dynamics? Why not Peach with her floating and unique items? Why not Link with his bombs and arrows and fairy summon?
There is so much wrong with Mario Maker.
>>334940712
>Tue 23rd Jun 2015
https://www.vg247.com/2016/03/04/motion-controls-cannot-be-entirely-disabled-in-star-fox-zero/
If you're going to shitpost, do it with something people can't disprove with a simple google search
>>334936841
Because I can't play Mount & Blade Warband on PS4
>>334936195
Someone post the pasta. Please
So, from what I can gather, Starfox Zero is good, not great, but has a steep learning curve since the new aiming system is so different than the other games, and that's what makes it frustrating for the first couple of hours. But, eventually it clicks and the game is enjoyable. Reminds me of Wonderful 101.
7/10 is the kind of score you'll find on some legitimately amazing games, or games that couldn't quite capitalise on their potential.
Either way, how come no one is talking about the multiplayer? Is it not online yet? I'm honestly only really excited for that part of the game, but I've heard absolutely nothing about it other than that there's no local.
>Gyro controls
Would Nintendo be better if Miyamoto just dropped dead?
>>334940948
No online for anything but Guard.
There is local, but it's only an incredibly shitty co-op mode. As in, one guy moves and the other one shoots.
>>334941039
Sounds like it makes the game playable when you have two pairs of eyes and hands. Or if you're a spider.
>>334940712
Nintendo backpedaled on that comment It's been repeatedly confirmed by literally everyone who has played the game, there are two settings for motion controls:
>always on
>on only when shooting
There is no "off". There is no aim-with-right-stick option.
You absolutely have to wiggle the damn pad around to aim. It is 100% not optional.
>>334940878
>can be disabled
>except for areas that were designed solely around it and would be impossible to complete without them like Metroid Prime 3's twisting
HURR DURR
We did it Sonybros.
>>334941102
You can actually shoot as the pilot in co-op. But only single laser unfortunately.
>>334940845
>How is it a good game again?
It's intuitive and offers nigh endless replay value. The games themselves are good, though the physics are a bit off from the originals. But, as a level maker it's really easy to use while offering enough depth to allow for interesting designs.
There are problems, of course. Browsing levels is incredibly tedious and slow and trying to find good ones is a nightmare and requires you to use external tools. You also can't search for levels by name, which is just stupid.
>>334936756
Why buy games on PC when the huge bulk of it's library is (is not are) on PS4. Not to mention exclusives.
>>334941016
I always enjoy imagining Nintendo IPs being made by other companies.
>>334940967
>ただ
>>334941039
That's unfortunate. Guess I'll pass on this one then.
Gyro controls are INNOVATIVE. Fuck off!!!!!?!?!?
If you don't like playing games that think out of the box then why did you even buy a Wii U!????!
>>334941228
>It's intuitive and offers nigh endless replay value.
Only if you're online. If you're not, you only have a few poorly made levels by Nintendo that are lower quality than those made for 10 year olds.
>The games themselves are good
If you can't use a KBM, it's not a good level editor.
Also, you did nothing to address every single problem I pointed out.
>>334940845
Man you deserve a high five, This is what I was trying to tell people about the freedom of Mario Rom Hacking, heck you could even make your own campaign let alone having access to fucking SLOPES instead retarded 8-bits customs these fagots keep on releasing.
>>334938442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBEKr7s2sc8
Jesus Christ, this land combat is fucking lame and those animations are dogshit.
Fuck platinum.
Can't wait for them to ruin Nier 2 as well.
>>334934217
>BARREL ROLL BARREL ROLL BARREL ROLL
>>334939604
Usually results in a ban, and I'm not on my own internet so I can't easily get a fresh IP.
>>334941541
>Platinum fault
I think everyone under the fucking sun understands that they were only there to damage control this piece of crap. Plat only does well when they have full control over a project you fucking dumb nintendrone.
>>334941385
>A game in which sharing levels online is the main appeal is only really good if you're online
No way.
>If you can't use a KBM, it's not a good level editor.
The gamepad touch screen works just as well. It's a little slower, but by no means bad.
>Also, you did nothing to address every single problem I pointed out.
Problems like you wanting certain features? Why are those essential to your enjoyment of the game? There's obviously going to be a lot of things that could have been added to the game, but weren't. Like, why aren't we allowed to play as Yoshi and shoot eggs? Because the game isn't about that. It's about designing Mario levels based around Mario's abilities from four games.
>>334941541
Nier A looks amazing.
Platinum just needs to stick with action games.
>>334941348
Kek
>It's Platinum's fault!
Just like how it was Team Ninja's fault Other M was bad, right?
So you don't aim with the sticks ever? Can someone explain to me whats required when someone says gyro controls?
>>334940845
>There is so much wrong with Mario Maker
Nah mate, it's a perfect game for everyone. Like Little Big Planet literally anyone can play it and have fun. I can't see my idiot cousin using Mario Rom Hacking ever, but I can easily give him the gamepad and he'll have fun making a stupid level.
Not every game is marketed towards /v/.
>>334934148
you missed out on some of the best games of this generation.
while it hurts to see the wii u sputtering to the finish line, it had a good run.
>>334935220
Playing games is hard anon.
>>334941693
Shouldn't have appended their name to horseshit.
The fact that Platinum's logo on a product is a seal of quality gameplay has been hurt by this game.
>>334941779
>No way.
A good level editor would come with thousands of pre-made levels of high quality without ever needing to download more from other sources. What does Mario Maker come with? 100? Pffft. For 60 bucks that's disappointing.
>The gamepad touch screen works just as well.
I'm gonna just pretend that you didn't insult KBM by implying that it's as slow as a gamepad. I'll be glad to give you that benefit of the doubt.
>Why are those essential to your enjoyment of the game?
Because a FREE version of the game offered that, without any ropes or hoops for me to jump through. But a 60 dollar version can't even be half-assed to include Luigi's skills.
It's amazing that you think SMBX and Lunar Magic are so terrible, all because they're free. As if a price tag magically makes a game good.
>>334941936
>a game that has a high level of entry is bad! everything is supposed to be casualized for the kids to play it
Hello EA.
>>334941039
>it's only an incredibly shitty co-op mode. As in, one guy moves and the other one shoots
Fuck off, more games should adopt pilot/gunner co-op
>make a game starring and literally named after an awesome fox space jockey fighter pilot
>MAKE HALF THE GAME NOT ACTUALLY BE IN THE FIGHTER AT ALL BUT IN SHITTY SLOW GROUND CRAP
>even in flight force garbage motion control with huge controller that randomly has to be manually reset
>total length 5 hours
BRAVO NINTENDO
>>334929459
So glad it crashed and burned after seeing all the pathetic attempts at shilling this trash over the past few weeks.
>>334935220
>Why check reviews???? Why not give Nintendo your money first then find out its shit afterwards?!??!!
>mfw you come to /v/ even though you don't play any games just to watch people chimping out
This star fox seems like a highly anticipated game, i didn't even hear about it until now
>>334941779
there isn't really a need to defend mario maker over lunar magic since no one uses lunar magic anyways and the entire point of creating levels is to share them with other people.
a better comparison for a level editor is little big planet which has better potential for creativity, but terrible floaty controls.
>>334940698
CLICK
BAIT
>>334942094
>this in the topic where everyone is crying over non-traditional controls
Pottery
>>334941940
>3 1/2 years
>sputtering to the finish line
>good run
Buyers remorse, the post
>>334942312
>something is bad if it isn't popular
So.... I guess console sales are excluded from this?
>>334942312
To be fair, LBP isn't really used that often as a platformer, so the floaty controllers aren't that big of a flaw
>>334942381
Anything that isn't a KBM is objectively inferior and requires a lower level of skill to learn, and has a lower skill ceiling.
t. guy who laughs at DMC and Dark Souls, and regularly spars with koreans on Starcraft.
>>334942517
>Anything that isn't a KBM is objectively inferior and requires a lower level of skill to learn, and has a lower skill ceiling.
t. virgin
>>334929459
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>>334930445
>git gud
>in a game with a literal invincibility mode without even needing to enter it as a cheat
kek
>Star Fox Zero review: What’s Star Fox 64 times zero?
>http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/04/star-fox-zero-review-whats-star-fox-64-times-zero/
God damn it Nintendo.
>The Gamepad’s tilt-sensor often gets slightly misaligned during intense action, requiring a quick manual re-centering that’s annoying in the middle of a firefight. Why this independent aiming couldn’t have been mapped to the secondary analog stick is frankly beyond me.
>You can try to ignore these motion controls and simply use the movement of your ship to aim as normal. That’s easier said than done, though, because the motion controls can’t be turned off completely. So if you don’t want errant controller movement to throw off your aim, you have to hold the GamePad perfectly still in your lap or in front of you.
God DAMN IT Nintendo.
>The Landmaster apparently wasn’t enough ground-based action for a game based around flying, though, because there’s now a second land-based vehicle in the game.
>This mode controls like the most awkward third-person shooter you’ve ever played, relying on those imprecise tilt controls for aiming and on both analog sticks for movement and turning. The time spent running around in tight corridors and awkwardly picking lonely enemies off of walls is time you’ll wish you were flying around instead.
>Star Fox Zero also throws in a new hovering gyrocopter, which can move and angle itself freely in three dimensions (as long as it stays level with the ground). The slow, choppy movement in this gyrocopter is a depressing change of pace from the fast, free-flying Arwing.
>One mission in particular has you using the chopper for a stealthy search-and-rescue mission. You barely fire your lasers at all as you slowly weave around searchlights and lower down a wired drone to hack into guard systems.
STAR FOX. STEALTH RESCUE COPTER MISSION. FUCK DAMN IT ASDLFKJASD WHY
>>334942613
>ad hominem
>>334942013
>A good level editor would come with thousands of pre-made levels of high quality
Why? The levels that are there from the start do a good job of demonstrating what you can do with it, so you can figure out new things as you go fiddle around. They do their job fine.
>I'm gonna just pretend that you didn't insult KBM by implying that it's as slow as a gamepad. I'll be glad to give you that benefit of the doubt.
Why are you so defensive? I wasn't insulting KB+M controls. I was saying the gamepad was slower, but works great.
>Because a FREE version of the game offered that, without any ropes or hoops for me to jump through. But a 60 dollar version can't even be half-assed to include Luigi's skills.
A lot of fanmade games and mods offer things not found in retail games. So what? Like I said, Mario Maker's level editor is made for making Mario levels. Not Luigi from SMB2 levels, or whatever other character you'd want to put in the game with varying abilities. It's focused on one playstyle.
>It's amazing that you think SMBX and Lunar Magic are so terrible, all because they're free.
I never said that. You said that.
>>334942745
>>One mission in particular has you using the chopper for a stealthy search-and-rescue mission. You barely fire your lasers at all as you slowly weave around searchlights and lower down a wired drone to hack into guard systems.
>STAR FOX. STEALTH RESCUE COPTER MISSION. FUCK DAMN IT ASDLFKJASD WHY
It's just one mission. Blue Marine was also only one mission in SF64.
>>334942517
>Anything that isn't a KBM requires a lower level of skill to learn
You can't seriously believe that
>>334942412
If the idea of that something relies on a lot of people using it, then yes. It's bad if it isn't popular. An online only game is not enjoyable when no one is playing, for example, even if the core gameplay is amazing.
>>334942357
Bayonetta 2 reviews:
>Paid reviewers
Starfox Zero reviews:
>Fair and accurate
We go through this with every single major release ever.
I have a serious question: How come Nintendo isn't allowed to experiment with their franchises anymore?
>>334929459
Honestly, I wish Nintendo would go the way of Sega and go 3rd party
I'm saying this as a long time Nintendofan, it is time to resign, they are a shell of their former self who can't compete with modern times
I feel like we wouldn't lose much if they go away, their best studios are 2nd parties that can easily move to a new publisher like Retro and Hal
I mean they had a good run, they got nothing to prove, just go out with dignity, please
>read some reviews
>is too similar to old games
>"dated" gameplay style
>muh motion controls
>>334942813
>The levels that are there from the start do a good job of demonstrating what you can do with it
There's nothing TO do with it. That's the problem. And they're not even well made. Not a single one has challenge.
>I wasn't insulting KB+M controls. I was saying the gamepad was slower, but works great.
Saying it's "slower" is an understatement. It's completely unusable.
>Like I said, Mario Maker's level editor is made for making Mario levels.
So why does it cost so much for such a restrictive, anti-consumer product? Why am I not allowed access to ALL of Mario's assets from all of his games? Why can't I make my own assets at least? you've yet to answer that. what kinda editor is this?
>>334943072
>Star Fox 64: Now with motion controls!!!
>experiment
>>334942745
>It would be one thing if these different play styles were a rare change of pace from the core Star Fox gameplay. But if you combine the non-Arwing missions with the awkward All Range Mode, easily over half the game is spent away from what Star Fox Zero does best.
Wow. I don't get it, what were they even thinking here? Everyone loves SF64 and it was short, focused and fun. Same applies everything from shmups to fighters, it's not about one run through, it's about being so fun and having challenges that it's worth many run throughs, over years and years. A bunch of shitty filler is just a negative.
Nintendo is hardly alone here either, what the fuck goes through dev's heads with awkward alt-game shit? It's always bad, and it's not like it was free to develop. I don't understand the game-case for it OR the business case.
>Small dev team release $15 games with 30+ hours gameplay
>Nintendo struggles to release 3 hours worth of content at $50
Even if you include different paths, we're still talking about less time than Dust Force, Mark of the Ninja or Super Meat Boy. If you can seriously defend a game that lets you experience the whole game in less time than an actual game that doesn't rely on procedural content then you're literally retarded.
People have released bigger games for free.
>>334943072
Because people would rather they make an actual new IP if they have a new idea
See:splatoon
>>334930865
Who cares about Polygon you silly cuck.
Also Bayonetta 2 was reviewed excellently and got plenty of GOTYs. stop with the conspiracy theories and victim complex faglord.
>>334943072
Because if they don't we can't cry rehash.
>>334943131
That's not what I get at all. Most of what I've read are complaints that it's NOT like Starfox 64 and that the controls are too difficult to learn.
>>334942929
So by your logic, the PS4 is the most amazing console ever this gen, and infinitely beats the WiiU? If we're going by popular= good rhetoric?
>>334929459
Hi I am Nintendo u will like Star Fawks its as good as metroid soccer
>>334930865
>we wuz kangs n shit dawg
>you see dey prejoodised
NINTENIGGERS MENTAL GYMNASTICS IN ACTION
>>334943072
People generally like consistency. Personally I like SF0 from what I've seen but I can see why people are mixed.
I mean do people complain about Kirby or Pokemon not changing as much? People rather things stay the same, and save the big changes for new series.
>>334943175
It is. This game experimented with how Gyro Aiming can be pushed in a rail shooter.
>>334942827
>It's just one mission.
It should be zero missions. More then half the game is shit where I'm NOT being awesome in the Arwing. Fuck you.
>>334943339
I dunno, I see a lot of people bitch that Pokemon isn't trying anything new with the main series.
>>334936173
>Fast paced third person shooter on a console
>Good
Nintoddlers, everyone.
>>334943353
But that's wrong, the majority of the game you're in the Arwing.
>>334943150
>There's nothing TO do with it. That's the problem. And they're not even well made. Not a single one has challenge.
There's plenty to do and the levels show you that.
>It's completely unusable.
If this is your opinion, the problem lies with you since tons and tons of users are using the gamepad to create levels.
>So why does it cost so much for such a restrictive, anti-consumer product?
Because they agreed to launch it with this price. I'd prefer it if it was cheaper too.
>Why am I not allowed access to ALL of Mario's assets from all of his games?
Because that's not what the editor is for. It's made to create levels based on this one playstyle.
>Why can't I make my own assets at least?
^
If you don't like Mario Maker and would rather use Lunar Magic, that's perfectly fine. You're not going to convince me to switch, not am I going to convince you.
>>334943342
>It is. This game experimented with how Gyro Aiming can be pushed in a rail shooter.
Not really, because much of it ISN'T a rail shooter. That's part of the problem with this shitpile, because the actual rail corridor stuff is really fun. I think the gyro is still suboptimal but even so everywhere you're in a corridor is great.
And then they dump you into some open world garbage with the worst interface ever, a big empty space and few enemies. Or take you out of the arwing entirely. It's not "experimental" it's "shit."
>>334943276
Destiny on ps4 is better than any wiiu game
>>334943087
Their games would actually sell if they were third party and made for XBone/PS4. I bet they'd sell at least twice, maybe three times as much as they sell now. Most people only buy one console and nobody wants to buy a sytem with zero third party support, but everybody still likes mario games, just not enough to buy a console for it that gets nothing else.
I swear if a new (good) mario game came out for ps4 it would sell like 8 million easily. It would also actually be a current gen game, rather than last gen bullshit. nintendo's actual home console hardware doesn't sell shit anymore and they have no reason to make it. nobody wants to buy nintendo now (apart from a few greasy manchildren here on /v/).
NX is gonna be the last console nintendo ever make. Guaranteed flop. Even if it does get third party support everybody's friends are already on xbone/ps4 and no one will choose to buy fucking nintendo. it's just not cool anyore m8.
I guess that's it then.
I couldn't stand super mario 64 DS because of controller gimmicks.
I couldn't stand Metroid Prime 3 because of controller gimmicks.
I couldn't stand Pikmin 3 because of controller gimmicks.
I was really excited for this game, after decades of getting shit on as a star fox fan (remember Command? Controller gimmicks AND almost no redeemable gameplay!), but I'm not going to put up with this bullshit in a fast-paced game where precision matters,
Fuck Miyamoto. He may have been a great game designer in the past, but it's like he now exists just to fuck up his own projects.
>>334943514
Are you conveniently ignoring all range mode? Does that one "not count"?
>>334930865
>Trusting marketers over trustworthy reviewers
Nintendrones everyone.
>>334931147
Well even if ratings would work like that, people who are looking for Starfox games expect excellence.
>>334943427
Well I dunno what to say. But there's no denial Pokemon mainline series has never had huge lows in comparison to other series because of it's consistency.
>>334931089
>hating anything popular
It deserves it's score.
>>334943682
Quick question, are you in an Arwing in All Range Mode? Or does the game suddenly throw you out of one the moment All Range Mode starts?
>>334941541
god this looks like garbage
>muh controls
Sounds like The Wonderful 101 all over again. Reviewers are probably just retarded. I'm not really interested in Star Fox though.
>>334943072
Because they don't know how to do it right.
What went so wrong?
>>334942412
Not so much bad, more just utterly pointless to make levels that no one else will play. It would be like playing a fighting game just for the training mode. Then again, some people make levels with the intent to never share them.
>>334942402
Over 10 great exclusives and hundreds of hours of game time counts as a good run. It still has more decent exclusives than any other console at this point. It seems that PS4 might overtake it soon in terms of must have exclusives, but the PS4 might also be coming out with a newer better model so i'll just wait for that one.
>>334943563
>If this is your opinion, the problem lies with you since tons and tons of users are using the gamepad to create levels.
Tons of users also defended poorly made, broken games at launch, like Bloodborne and Dragon Age: Inquisition. as I've said before, stop using popularity as if it's an indication of quality.
>Because they agreed to launch it with this price
So that means I'm not allowed to complain? Because basic consumer protection laws would argue otherwise. See: European economic common law.
>It's made to create levels based on this one playstyle.
And using specific assets would ruin this? How?
>>334943830
Not him but s a rehash worse then something experimental?
Starfox Zero is to StarFox 64 as Doom 4 is to Doom 64.
If it was StarFox 64 2016 I'd be ecstatic.
If it was Doom 64 2016 I'd be ecstatic.
But now I'm just kinda sad.
>>334943710
Yes because game reviewers have been honest with their reviews.
My "review" of Memetendo
posting in a children's thread
he buys expensive Fischer-Price toys
Iwata
a failed businessman, the trick code monkey fraud of the group. knows two tricks: forced laughter and dying. Brava Iwata, brava!
Reggie
a failed viral marketer with an ugly wife and children with terrible names ('myson fils-amie?'). he knows he's the least popular employee and desperately tries to fit in by making Reddit-tier jokes
Miyamoto
an over-the-hill "developer" weighed down by his talentless cronies. only makes simplistic video games because they're immune to criticism. his latest production 'The Nintendo NX' will expose him as a fraud and be a spiritual and economic disaster. He will eventually go the route of gunpei yokoi , shrivel up and die at the ripe age of 80
Bill
the curdling definition of a parasite. ditters away on social media on while the men do all the hard work. got caught buying jewelry with actual devlopment budget money.
Sakurai
the only dev showing any self-improvement or growth. still has a long way to go, but has already outgrown Nintendo.
I like how Memetendo is a company founded upon innovation, insulting and berating others and their works, but HEAVEN FORBID that anyone criticize them! They'll even ban you from miiverse if they catch a whiff of dissatisfaction. It's amazing how creatively lazy the company has become. They were better when they were a starving group. Now they can sit on their fat asses, put on puppet shows and make bad facebook memes while you throw money at the screen. Amazing.
Whats so bad about it?
When will you modern gamers admit that gaming is dead and let it fucking die?
There are so many great pre-1995 games to play that I'm sure many of you have never touched or even know about. Just let modern gaming die, play true retro games (N64/PS1 generation is the beginning of the death of gaming), and allow the true rebirth of real gaming to happen in a few years.
>>334941541
>Venom is a tiny asteroid with a handful of turrets
>>334943885
See, that's the problem. You're counting exclusives as good only if you like them. As if your opinion is more important than those of others.
>>334944065
The smug anime picture was an indication not to read your post.
>>334944151
and the rest of the planets and bosses are underwhelming as FUCK.
this is the "best" and i do use that term very loosely boss "fight" in the game.
>>334942850
It's true, just look at FPS games
>Most reviews comment on how it's derivative
>Not a single mention of how derivative Souls games are
Double standard fems
>>334943964
I feel you. But Doom 64 had some shit levels.
>>334944653
>comparing the gameplay of two genres not even remotely similar to each other.
>>334943791
Sorry I wasn't clear. I originally said "being awesome in an Arwing", the non-Arwing missions of course have you not being in one at all, my complaint about the All Range Mode is the "awesome" part not the not-Arwing part. ARM is where it switches you from on-rails corridor to free flight in open empty space, and the problem is that it's fucking shit. You're basically in a big area of nothing with a few enemies dotted around, you don't even have radar instead you have an automatic lock-on camera that sticks to a random enemy that's close enough, and now of course you don't really have any idea how you're flying. Nintendo's brilliant solution to this is to have the gamepad screen show a cockpit view all the time, so now you have to constantly look away from your actual TV and the enemy and down at your controller just to have any idea what is happening.
I might sound mad but frankly as much as anything I'm just befuddled and confused. It's not like free-flight fighter combat is some new crazy thing Nintendo just invented, hell some form of ARM itself has been around forever. But in SF0 it's just such shit in ways that make no sense. There are endless games they could have taken a few queues from.
I hate it because the normal corridor stuff is great. But the rest of the game (and including ARM it's definitely at least half) is mediocre-to-suck, and that hurts because the fun of SF should be not from one playthrough but getting really good over many. The game would be MORE worth $60 to me if it had LESS content in this case and Nintendo had just focused on making what was there super tight and fun. 2 hours instead of 5 is still better if I want to replay that 2 hours dozens of times whereas after 5 I have little desire to try again.I'm mainly sad now. Sorry anon.
>>334944785
>Reading comprehension
Christ anon.
>>334944252
that sounds like something someone whose opinion isn't important would say
>>334943240
>>334943308
Not them but Polygon genuinely did drop marks for being too lewd, despite the reviewer having s suicide girls account
>After constants reclaims of the return of F-Zero, Metroid, Star Fox & cie, we forget that Nintendo bets on concepts before their licenses. Sadly, the one from SF0 doesn't really hold up, trying to rely on a counterproductive screen / gamepad system. Playing with a handicap isn't a bad thing per se, especially when the challenge is calibrated by Platinum, with tight challenges and a scoring that requires a lot of mastery. But it should have been in a nice package for it to be revealed. In the present case, we have a very short game, with lacklusters alternative roads, an anarchic gameplay and a head-scratching finale. That is nothing to say about the terrible technical aspect, with empty environements, lackluster effects and extremely generic enemy design, like they were all pulled from the N64 version to justify the nostalgia trip. Thankfully, there's still the atmosphere, the transformations and some boss good boss battles to save it. If we believe that Platinum Games can survive this blunder, we're afraid the Star Fox series is definitely buried this time.
Welp.
>>334944893
Are you stupid?
>>334944653
souls games at least rename the areas that they are rehashing.
Anyone else get it early?
I can't git gud, it's so fucking hard
>>334944653
Dark Souls 3 is derivative of a 6 year old game.
Star Fox Zero is derivative of a 19 year old game.
And yeah, reviews have mentioned that Dark Souls 3 is derivative.
>>334944716
I mean, Doom always has had that one level that's just a pain in the ass. Generally two or three that are just a slog or a bit too cryptic your first time through.
But it was still a good game, great even. Same with StarFox really. The game wasn't perfect, but it was good.
These modern reboots just look lame by comparison.
>>334944974
You're aware the post was comparing the reaction to the games and not the games themselves, right?
Retard.
B-BUT YOU'RE AN IDIOT FOR THINKING IT WAS GOING TO BE GOOD
>>334929459
I would be surprised if it was higher, shit looks like a nintendo 64 game copy pasted with next gen shaders at best.
Reminder: Game Journos are still mad about the Allison Rapp stuff so they're trying to stick it to Nintendo and their fans with these reviews.
I think the main problem with this game is that rail shooters have gone the way of point-and-click adventure games. It's sad, but I don't think we'll ever see a rail shooter as influential for it's time as Star Fox 64 was.
>>334945020
>Dark Souls 3 is derivative of a 6 year old game.
With 5 installments
>Star Fox Zero is derivative of a 19 year old game.
With 3 installments
>72
>#4 Best Wii U Game of 2016
Holy shit lol.
>>334929459
>reviews/scores don't matter
You realize that by saying this you can no longer make fun of a Sony/Microsoft/PC game when it gets a bad score right? Because otherwise they will rub you this game score on your nose and call you the biggest hypocrite in the world
>>334945097
Here's a secret truth that will trigger /v/, Dark Souls is superior to Star Fox. The real reason people are complaining that Star Fox Zero is derivative is that Star Fox is lame and nobody wants to play it anymore.
>>334945068
I just meant that a lot of Doom 64's levels don't have that natural flow that the first three episodes of Doom 1 had.
Cryptic is the best way to put it. You just hit the "OK, now what" wall waaaay too often. Still good, just more frustrating than the original.
Damnit now I'm conflicted as fuck
Do I get Danganronpa 2 for steam or Star Fox Zero?
Does it have a good storyline that deals with finding James Mccloud or maybe even intersecting timelines like being the one who saves Fox from Andross in 64?
That would be a must buy for me. Can anyone confirm??
Well, people told me Bravely Second was mediocre and I'm having a hell of a time with it. People also told me Fates was going to be a masterpiece and I ended up hating it. The point is, form your own opinion of it in the end, don't let others form your opinion of something. Games like this, with a 70 on metacritic, typically they tend to be in that gray area. The individual will either be impressed with it or not wowed by it.
Eh, the game still looks enjoyable. Plus everyone rated Codename STEAM poorly but I wound up loving that game as well.
>>334945372James blows himself up at the end.
>>334934217
Looks kinda fun, ad the OST is awesome. hope they release a patch fixing the annoying "Barrel Roll" voice
>>334945372
Anon, it's not another Command. There are no fanfic endings in this.
>>334945276
yeah the only problem with that mindset is that 4chan is made of tons of people so you're just going to do it anyway under the assumption that it's the same person
>>334931397
>critics today cannot STAND skill based games
meme souls.
>>334945009
What do you think about it so far anon?
>>334945389
Same with Wonderful 101. It was around 70 on metacritic as well, right? I ended up liking that.
>>334929459
>flop confirmed. 64fags on suicide watch
>>334945573
>>334945573
Really fucking hard, but it's half-clicking with me. I've been replaying Corneria a few times trying to get used to the controls.
But yeah, I'm getting my shit handed to me if I go past the third level
>>334944921
>>334944845
>Gamepad use
I have to say this has been a really fundamental concern of mine with Nintendo's strategy with the Wii U and now apparently the NX. Actually going even farther back, they tried it with the GameCube in a limited way too. But I feel like the entire core concept of "main screen, second small screen you hold" is flawed for the vast, vast majority of games.
To me for nearly all games that "ideal controller" would be a brain-computer interface. Ie., you just use it, it's perfectly responsive, and it vanishes from your consciousness and just gets out of the way. You can do anything you want depending on your skill and be immersed in the game world. Obviously we can't actually pull that off, but whether it's kb+m or normal controller there is still the thing that beyond the most beginner level you never look at it, you just stop thinking about it and play the game.
But sticking a screen on there irrevocably means forcing you to be conscious of the controller. You have to yank yourself out of the game and look at something else. How could that not be jarring and mediocre most of the time?
There are a few exceptions of course, where "being aware of the controller" actually makes sense in terms of immersion within the game. The best most perfect example I can think of would be Fatal Frame. But no matter how much I fucking love those, one or two types does not justify gimping everything else. I think Nintendo has long been barking up the wrong tree with the entire idea.
>>334945543
I never could get into the Souls games. If the combat was pretty deep I could probably see myself liking it. I never could invest more than a few hours into them because I got so bored. I would be willing to sit there and die over and over again if something else about it grabbed my attention.
>>334945736
RPGs/Bamham style open world games in particular work well with the gamepad/dual screen set up.
Not so much pretty much every other genre
>>334936530
But that's wrong
>>334945228
Jesus christ.
>>334945681
What? 64fags have to be happy because everyone is saying "just go replay 64". SF64 is still great. It's just these modern rehashes Nintendo is shitting out that suck.
>>334945826
People without skill often call souls games boring.
>>334945826
Glad I'm not alone. Just today I tried Bloodborne again, I just don't get it. The combat's so boring and the level design is usually "loop back on yourself then go further" which absolutely kills it for me.
Yeah keep posting these threads, that will totally convince everyone that you're not just mad that it isn't on PS4.
>>334936579
>Air Ride
>61
WHAT THE FUCK
That game is goddamn great, I still regret selling my copy.
What score did Famitsu give? I bet those cockmonglers gave it no less than a 35 out of 40.
>>334945482
does it at least have a story as good as 64? It wasn't much but the ending almost had me in tears.
>just looking at reviews
>they all keep saying that it's just 2-3 hours long
>SIXTY UNITED STATES DOLLARS
What the fuck
I need some crying nintendofag feelsmen.
Badly.
I beg of you.
>>334945826
You're just shit at the game then.
>>334930865
>brings up Sony and no other part of the market
every damn time
>>334937357
I'm seeing a lot of conflicting reports, but from what I've seen of the reviews you can't.
>>334945826
>>334945970
Holy shit go back to your colorful easy as fuck Nintendo games. Don't even mention Bloodborne or ANY SOULS game again you disgusting cretin with shit taste.
>>334936579
>Mystery Dungeon
>67
>>334945986
I would pay money to keep this trash away from my PS4.
>>334946083
>>SIXTY UNITED STATES DOLLARS
You don't have to get it for $60. You can get it cheaper on the eshop by itself, without Guard.
>>334946092
You say you need that, but I think what you really need is for your balls to drop.
>>334946171
>but from what I've seen of the reviews you can't.
what
>>334946227
He said you can't.
>>334945276
>Bravely Second got shat on by critics
still loving it
>Codename STEAM got shat on by critics
still mad we'll never see a sequel
>Wonderful 101, God Hand, Tropical Freeze, insert any game where professional critics complained about the game being "too hard"
>>334946225
Please.
>>334946202
Oh, then I guess you don't need to keep making threads about it.
>>334945970
Agreed, the level design itself is also kind of dull. There's not much exploring you can do. I just don't get the appeal. And yeah, the checkpoint system is antiquated. It ends up being little more than tedium, rather than an engaging challenge.
I don't know how they sell this to so many people, but something about it seems to click with the general public.
>>334945843
Any game that makes use of analog movement is usually better with a gamepad. It's a lot simpler and intuitive to push a control stick further and further to smoothly increase running speed than holding a digital button, or several, to increase it in steps.
Unless you have an analog keyboard, which I honestly can't understand aren't more popular and cheap.
>>334946184
>Give reasons I don't like Souls games
>Some autist takes it as a personal insult
Grow up, kid
>>334937357
yes unfortunately
>>334946295
all of those games were really casual, so it's even funnier that the casual game reviewers had trouble with them.
I can only imagine how much writhing hatred they'd feel for a game that takes skill.
>>334946320
Sorry anon, I can't make your balls drop.
>>334946365
Fairly sure that was a false flag.
>>334946271
Can't what?
>>334946329
>checkpoint system
you are the reason we get 3-hour long cinematic games.
>>334946350
I can't really argue that gyro controls combined with twin sticks is usually a great control scheme, but so many games just outright ignore that this is a thing.
To this day, I still don't understand why Itagaki didn't implement that shit in to Devils Third, it would have made it 400% more playable to me in particular
>>334946295
W101 was pretty much a shitty mobile game
>>334946428
Well ofc you can't. They already did yesterday :D
God, it feels goo to be able to browse 4chan legally now.
>>334945843
Even with RPGs I don't think it works mostly. In fact with an RPG even more then a lot of games I want to sink into it, the world and characters and all that is really the central point of the genre.
An exception would be same-screen coop, which I think can actually be awesome in a way a lot of people have never experienced. I mentioned the GC, because like a year ago me and some bros actually found one of our old working GCs, a copy of FF Crystal Chronicles, and scrounged up 4 working GBAs and got that shit going. And it really was fun in a way that's different from what you get even with online coop. Had a total blast with it.
But that's niche as fuck. There's a reason online is what one there, getting everyone together and all the equipment was not frictionless and that's years later when it's all pretty much free, if buying new it'd have represented a sizable amount of money unless everyone had one already (and a few of us normally don't bother with any form of mobile gaming). I mean, I loved Steel Battalion too and how crazy ambitious they were with it, I think game-specific controller setups can be amazing and it's too bad so few people get that experience. At the same time though I don't think building a general purpose console around it is smart either unfortunately. I'd have paid $250 for a special edition Fatal Frame II with a custom camera obscura controller, but I would rather it paired to a PS4 or PC or theoretical pure gaming Nintendo console that did everything else really well rather then being the default.
>>334946601
Here's your (you)
>>334946641
>Even with RPGs I don't think it works mostly.
Honestly, anything that cuts out menu usage is a plus to me.
so, should I buy a wii u or should I back off before I regret it?
>>334946548
I think subtle implemented gyro controls in SFZ would have been very intuitive and clever had they used it for pivoting the ship slightly. Making you cut your loops a little by tilting the gamepad up slightly would work really well, I think. Wipeout HD on the PS3 makes great use of the gyro feature of the DS3 and you can even set how much you want it to affect the ship's movement. I don't understand why Nintendo feels the need to push this one control scheme on all players, instead of giving them options. It's been going on for decades now. They are always, always lacking in options and frankly it's unacceptable. Even if the gyro controls were great, there are always people who'll prefer a different controls scheme and there'd be no detrimental effect to let those people use traditional controls.
>>334946920
If you're buying a Wii U JUST for Star Fox Zero, no.
>>334946920
NX won't have BC so if you want to play these games you will need to buy a Wii U at some point
>>334946920
Wait until Zelda is announced as a Wii U exclusive and get it then. If it's a split between their next console, wait even longer.
>>334946976
The nx is a ps4 controller capible of remote play. Its going to flop so hard.
>>334946920
5 game rule, nigga
http://www.cgmagonline.com/reviews/nintendo-star-fox-zero-wiiu-review
>everything look like the gaming equivalent of Pixar
My fucking sides
>>334946976
>implying that Smash and Zelda (maybe a few other games too) won't be ported to NX anyway
>>334940538
>Sony hires Nintendo marketers
Makes sense
>>334947117
>>334946976
Literally the only thing we know for-sure about the NX is that it's a console.
>>334945684
so you have to look away from the TV screen and at your controller to aim in free mode? that sounds so fucking bad and unintuitive. such a shitty way to force you to use the gimmicky controller.
>>334930290
This.
Haven't played but that's probably what 64 would have been rated by modern day standards.
>since it's driving two screens SF0 can't even maintain 60 fps despite shit graphics
bravo nintendo
>>334947147
Personally I've always gone for 3 games that are out and at-least 1 game in-development.
>>334947148
>mfw this is real
Do they even read the reviews they collect?
>>334947221
Made by a company who gave us metroid soccer and starfox failure edition. They put 2 hours of thought into it and rushed it out to make a buck.
>>334947297
>Nintendo is amazing
Wow, you can quit defending Nintendo now
so is the gyro shit the only aiming scheme?
>>334947491
Not 100% on accuracy but from what I read yes.
I cancelled my preorder
>>334947221
>literally
Don't you ever say that word around me again!
>>334947608
>I preordered the game 100 times
Wooow, great job wasting your money
>>334946920
i'd say wait til either the nx is revealed or you can get it in a really decent bundle
there are a lot of games for the wii u that are worth owning but no one knows if they will be ported to the nx or if the nx will be backwards compatible.
>>334947621
literally
LITERALLY LITERALLY LITERALLYliterally a console
>>334929459
Got the game, played an hour. Reviews are accurate
>>334947608
me too anon
>>334947747
If they move away from PowerPC architecture I would bet it's not. Rumors all say they're either going x86 or ARM so it's a pretty safe bet to assume it's not BC.
>>334947845
Is this a deja-vu
>>334947845
Same. As soon as I opened the box, I knew it was terrible. I broke the disc and returned it to GAME
>>334947845
how a post of a box. I believe you anon.
>>334947230
Did you mean to reply to >>334944845? At any rate the answer to your question is yes. I mean, you don't "need" to if you don't mind losing, you might sort of be able to hit the enemy sometimes without it. But yeah, apparently just having an onscreen radar of some sort like every other fucking flight sim mode in history makes too much sense for Nintendo. That's of course yet another problem with building your entire offering around a really expensive gimmick: first parties will feel compelled to use it and justify it, whether it makes sense or not.
Although even in 64, still one of my favorite games ever, I can't say I loved ARM. In some ways it remains true that Star Fox was at its purest all the way back in 1993. There was room for further improvement from there, but I don't think Nintendo went about it the right way on balance. Maybe on the NX? At least the older ones have aged well to me.
>>334947845
you already posted this anonor did you not?
>>334947608
Right on brother.
>>334947910
it would kind of be a shame, as it's awesome being able to play several generations of games on a single console.
After so many big leads that turned out to be false i'm done speculating either way.
>>334936253
Probably not the point he was making, but I agree. I turn the graphics down on GTA V and Rocket League for a constant 60 FPS and I enjoy those games more for it.
Loving every laught
>>334948262
>I love Nintendo, they're literally perfect!!!
Jeez man, you don't have to be in denial
>>334947340
>Cheat code central
Wow, I remember them from the dial-up days, I had no idea they were still around
>>334947992
kek
>>334948332
Every laugh.
>>334948168
It would be lame, but at the same time Nintendo is really the only ones who ever bothered with BC. MS literally only tacked it on after they figured out their release lineup was even worse than the 360's exclusives. SONY had an attempt but is now trying to make a profit off it. SEGA never gave a shit, thought those were cartridge days.
Nintendo's the only one who really cared about that.
>>334947910
>If they move away from PowerPC architecture I would bet it's not. Rumors all say they're either going x86 or ARM so it's a pretty safe bet to assume it's not BC.
In fairness to Nintendo anon, this might actually be one small tiny silver lining to Nintendo being such fucking shit at hardware the last few gens. The Wii and Wii U are so weak relatively speaking that the power/memory jump to normal x86 or ARM64 will be HUGE. Literally over an order of magnitude. Additionally, the PPC internally no Wii/Wii U isn't particularly "weird" or pushing any limits, unlike the Cell for example.
So even though emulation of an entirely different arch does have a significant performance hit, I think Nintendo in principle could actually pull it off because the delta will be so big. Emulating the PS3 on the PS4 for example was just plain impossible, but on the PS5 or PS6? Might be doable. In terms of delta, Nintendo could basically go right from PS2 to PS5, assuming they don't sacrifice too much on gimmicks this time. That's not to say that writing the emulation software wouldn't still be a big undertaking, I'm just saying the hardware resources may be there by virtue of having a low requirement floor.
>>334934148
I haven't touched anything Nintendo related since the GCN. Fuck those kike faggots. Wii had like two good games.
>>334948478
laugh.
>>334948618
raugh and let raugh
>>334948562
What? Sony has been quite good about BC overall, and you definitely can't complain about "trying to make a profit off of it" in comparison to Nintendo of all companies, the gaming kings of re-selling ancient titles new. Sony's problem has been one of the natural difficulties that comes from trying to stay on the bleeding edge when Moore's law is dead.
That's over though thanks to the x86 transition. The PS5 will play everything from the PS4 just like a PC will play old PC games. If anything, I'm worried the problem is the opposite: that BC will be so easy, basically for free, that Sony will be tempted to start revving console gens way more often (ala the PS4.5).
>>334934217
>it's okay when nintendo puts their memes
>>334935372
Fuck all of those faggots. Starfox 64 was the last decent title in the series. If this doesn't play like SF64 then its worthless trash. Fuck Dinosaur Planet, fuck Command, fuck Assault. That garbage was not Starfox.
>>334948723
and let raugh
>>334948618
Every. Laugh.
i feel really bad for Wii U owners. it's clear ninty gave up on the platform a long time ago.
>>334949031
Laugh.
>>334948987
Nice sausage fingers.
>>334948987
Is it any better than the reviews made it out to be?
>>334934148
Nintendo hasn't been good since the SNES idiot.
>>334948987
ask cortana if you are a faggot
>>334930865
Just look at the asspain seeping from this post. Did you guys think nintendo would be so shit in 2016?
>>334949114
No, it's worse.
>>334948987
>buying a clearly terrible game
So do you like wasting money or do you just have too much income?
>>334949114
It's worse.
I'm going to rent it and have a good time.
You can't just make Star Fox 64 over and over again. It's not Street Fighter after all.
>>334948909
>Sony has been quite good about BC overall
PS2 had PS1 BC. Great.
PS3 had PS2 and PS1 BC. Great! Er, wait, now it's just PS2 emulation. Cool...oh wait now it doesn't have any.
PS4 has 0 BC, but now you can buy PS2 ports for your system!
Not to mention the PSPGo and Vita debacle.
>>334948987
ARE THE GYRO CONTROLS THE ONLY CONTROL SCHEME
POST A DIFFERENT PICTURE OF THIS THREAD WITH THE BOX SO I KNOW IT'S YOU
>>334949114
It's fucking shit m8. The reviews are being generous.
>>334948987
How is arcade mode? Have you tried it yet? There was a embargo on that information for some retarded reason so no one has talked about it.
>>334949067
For this year it seems so.
2015 had some entertaining shit.
>>334949280
It's the only control scheme, yes.
>>334949280
Don't buy it. It's not worth it.
Get FIFA or COD for the PS4, Something worthwhile
The sad part it's that with a 72 it's still the 4th best reviewed Wii U game this year
>>334930865
This is the saddest and most pathetic post I've read so far this year. Nintentoddlers never fail to amaze.
Nintendo used to mean quality, they seriously suck balls nowadays, their games are just plain horrendous. I got burned with the Wii and didn't even give the Wii U a chance. I'm actually enjoying watching them crumble and die after they lied to their fans with the Wii.
>>334949338
The arcade mode is about 3 hours long for an average gamer. It's really bad, with some decent stages in there. Final boss is piss-easy and after beating it you unlock these single mission challenges which don't give any rewards and are honestly boring repeats of things you already played.
There is also no multiplayer other than the local co-op for the campaign. Don't buy this game.
>>334949391
so it's the 4th wii u game this year
>>334949114
It's really bad.
>>334949474
More like the 4th Nintendo game
>>334948909
>What? Sony has been quite good about BC overall
Uh, no?
PS3 launch was the last time they gave a shit about BC, and it was removed the very next year to cut costs.
Instead of getting a PS4 that's actually BC with PS3 discs, expanding the console's library, adding lots of value and also discouraging all these fucking re-releases of PS3 games, we get PSNow, a god-awful streaming service designed solely to rake in subscription fees.
PS3s are not expensive to make, by Sony's own breakdown of parts and costs we can see it would not be expensive at all to have just shoved the PS3's guts into the PS4. But then they couldn't churn out re-release after re-release and charge you to stream PS3 games. Implement real BC or fuck off.
Will a Star Fox thread ever not be shit-posting.
>>334949573
Sure. As soon as Nintendo release a non-shit game.
>>334949562
You know nothing. Just shut the fuck up and continue to shill your shitty 70 something reviewed (LOL) Nintendo games, you fucking manchild faggot.
>>334949573
not dicksucking != shitposting
fuck off back to GAF or reddit
>>334949573
When they make another good Star Fox game.
>>334949573
Maybe if you stop discussing Nintendo games forever, we'll stop
>>334949243
>PS3 slim
>PS4 has 0 BC, but now you can buy PS2 ports for your system!
The point though is that that couldn't be helped, not because they "didn't care". Or I guess more accurately, they didn't put BC on a pedestal vs all other considerations, and that is just a fact of life when it comes to engineering. "Engineering is the art of the possible" and all that, when you've got a tight small budget and thermal/power requirements to balance compromise isn't just a "sometimes" it's the rule. The x86 transition was the right choice to make. They COULD have gone Cell for another gen (the arch was developed beyond the gimped gen1 the PS3 used), but it would have been disastrously expensive and had a bunch of other compromises. Switching to x86 hurt, but the result is a better dev environment, lower non-core R&D going forward, more flexibility, and guaranteed easy BC from here on out. They had to do it sometime so getting the pain over with sooner rather then later makes sense.
Drawing from that a "don't care" is foolish. Nintendo's BC has come with huge compromises to their hardware overall, I can't count that as a positive frankly.
>>334949573
Reddit sounds right up your alley drone.
>>334949573
Shit games have shit post threads. Get with the times.
What is there to discuss? How much the game doesn't suck? Cause there isn't anything to discuss regarding that.
>>334949638
Nintendo has never made games, only movies
>>334949562
The worst part was that when they did put back bc for the 80 gigs it was worse emulation where certain games had progression stopping bugs or just not compatible
>>334949573
The game is shit man. Accept it.
>>334949673
Then you better stop worshipping Nintendo
>>334949638
>>334949673
>>334949674
>>334949679
>>334949739
>>334949741
>>334949831
WOULD YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE (YOU)'S
>>334949910
but i only see one
>>334936579
>Kirby Air ride
>>334949674
Nintendo doesn't make good anything
>>334949910
kys ffs
>>334949280
Two options: Always On and Only when firing.
Either way you have to use the gyro to fire
>>334949573
sorry, but this is not a hugbox
the game is shit, and im trying to come to terms with a console thats collecting more dust than my wii and my dick combined.
>>334949730
I never said they don't care, I said they haven't been good with BC. You said that they did and I disagreed.
>>334949573
Get fucked.
>>334949573
>All I wanted was assault HD with online 4 v 4 multiplayer
>instead we get a neutered splatoon with on rail elements
>Bitch and moan about no successor of SF64 for literally almost two decades
>Finally get it
>Bitch and moan about it being too much like SF64
All those fucks had to do was make an Ace combat game with Starfox stuff in it.
>>334950115
>>334950024 >>334949996 >>334949981 >>334949953 >>334949895 >>334949831
Maybe if you guys stop being so biased towards Nintendo, we gamers could get some real discussion in.
That being said. Star Fox has never been a good game and everyone could tell from the beginning that it was going to fail
>>334950290
STOP
CRITICISING
THE
WII
U
>>334950273
>Ace Combat is good
>>334937431
I read Vaporware was Vaporwave.
>>334950290
>waaah stop criticizing this heavily flawed rehash.
get fucked kiddo.
>>334950395
Ace Combat is good
I just want to play the game.
>>334950678
Fuck off.
This game looks fucking awesome to me the more I see of it. I loved SF64 and played it a shit ton, regardless of what people are saying about it I'm still gonna get it.
Oh andhope you all like forced tutorials before the title screen that takes you through every single last bit of the controls.
>>334950678
Then you shouldn't have bought a Wii U.
>>334950678
There's no game here.
>>334950290
>Posts criticizing the game
>"STOP BEING SO BIASED TOWARD NINTENDO!"
>"Star Fox has never been a good game and everyone could tell from the beginning that it was going to fail"
Wat
>>334929459
>nonstandard control scheme
It was to be expected.
>>334936150
?? 50 is a pass. Hell even in Canada if you get a 47 the teacher has to bump you up to a 50.
It's nothing to be proud about but it gets the job done.
>>334951170
wot
It was my understanding that in canada you got 51 if you got a 50, and 50 if you got a 49.
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