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Holy shit... what went horribly wrong?


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Holy shit... what went horribly wrong?
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>>334927365
It always looked bad. The graphics are 6th-gen tier and this review just confirms that it was a dated as fuck game that doesn't hold up today. Paying $60 for a Star Fox 64 rehash that can be beaten in a few hours with graphics to match the era too is absurd.

From the E3 trailer I knew this would be shit.
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Nintendo is dead, oh well, I'll stick to playing the classics from now on. I'll still give this a go since I pre-ordered it though.
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2002 games were pretty dope so I'm getting this.
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>>334927723
>SF Zero has 64 graphics

(You)
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>>334927723
>>334927365
>we want a new star fox game
>no not star fox adventures
>no this shit is lame too
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Pretty damning considering Dan's a huge fan of Star Fox but this game has always looked terrible. Not sure anyone thought it was going to be good other than diehard nintendo fans.
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>giant bomb
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>>334927365
So it's like a game before everything went to turbojew casual garbage after 2005?
Count me in.
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>>334927365
>Giant Bomb
let me guess their issues with the game
>No female option
>no female-only option
>no female cast
>cast is stereotypically macho
>the story isnt the focus of the game
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say it out loud with me

TRANSFORMATION
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>This is the Star Fox game you've always wanted since 64
>2/5
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>>334927365
Stop fucking dotdotdoting you retard, do you have any goddamn idea how fucking stupid you look doing that?
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>>334927873
6th-gen means Gamecube, not N64, you complete fucking retard. Learn to read
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>>334927365
Is this thread about Star Fox Zero or Giant Bomb?
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>>334927984
or you know the game could be garbage like anyone with a brain saw it as
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>>334927365
I don't wanna just shit on nintendo, no doubt we will be hving these Star Fox threads for the next few weeks, but I don't understand how anyone couple have honestly been excited for this, everytime they have shown it it has always just looked like a bad on rail shooter.

It never looked challenging, or interesting or engaging an why people were hyped for it I will never know.

I can understand people being hyped for a new Mario or Zelda, I can REALLY understand why people wold be hyped for a new Metroid game, but Star Fox? Really?
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inb4
>but reviews don't matter

Which is ironic since nintendorks are the ones who always say their games are good because of their score
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>>334927984
Maybe the game is shit and you're just butthurt?
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>>334928032
>dotdotdoting
They're called ellipses you fucktard...
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>>334927365
Looked pretty bad in gameplay videos so it's probably a legit review this time, but we won't be sure until we see more of the game. That 2002 argument is stupid though.
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Holy shit

> If this had been released for the GameCube instead of Star Fox Adventures, I assume that it would have been almost universally praised by fans of the series.

So basically its a good game, a good Star Fox game and everything that the fans have been asking for, but its 2016 so its shit?
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>>334927365
Considering the state of modern vidya, a game from 2002 sounds really good right about now.
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>>334928183
it doesn't have top of the line graphics so it's bad
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>>334927813
this, but i bet it has all the flaws of modern games
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The two big new features were the motion controls and the chicken transformation, two things which nobody really asked for.

Miyamoto being adamant on two screens wasn't cutting them any favours either, visually the game looked like dog shit when they showed it off at E3. It's improved since but barely.
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>>334927365
>takes the only bad review
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>>334928149
Are you an idiot? An ellipse is when the Sun gets between the Earth and the Moon.
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I wouldn't believe anything that a modern game "journalist" has to say.
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>first review and there's already damage control

Priceless
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>>334927993
>with me
You need help.
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So this.. is the power..... of the........ wiiu.............


wow.....................
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>it's the Star Fox game you wanted in 2002

That's a negative thing? It's all I wanted to hear. Sold.
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>This review
>Nintendo finally released the Star Fox game that I thought I wanted, but it leaves me wondering what place Fox McCloud has in today’s gaming landscape.
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>>334927365
Dan is a fucking idiot but his reviews are always legit.

What a shame for Star Fox
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>>334927897
See OP...
>It's the Star Fox game you wanted... in 2002.

Too little too late. The industry has moved forward a bit since the N64, it's a little sad that Nintendo is rehashing a game from that era with little to no sign of improvement or change.
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woah..............the power....of.........miyamoto.............for the players..............
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>>334928183
yeah. Games aren't allowed to not "grow up" with you, despite, you know, 99.9% of gamers now not playing your games when you were 12.
First time I see it go so bad on a "professional" review though. That mentality is usually youtuber bread and butter.
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>>334928105
Literally no one has ever said this.
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>>334927365
fucking stupid. they finally give any fans what they want and now it's "too little too late, i wonder what fox even has to do in todays modern landscape" and then cue contemplative jazz music.

Motherfuckers
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>>334928286
>WIIU IS THE BEST SYSTEM EVER BECAUSE JOURNALIST GAVE THEM GOOD SCORES
>journos give a bad score to a Nintendo game
>suddenly they don't matter

You can't make this shit up
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it's.....not......FAIR
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Got it in the mail today and finished my first playthrough. The game let's you turn off that gimmicky aiming shit but it's often required in order to progress the game and it's frustrating when it's turned off. When it's turned on it never stops feeling gimmicky and there are sections sometimes in which it's way better to play without it.

That game is almost as bad as Command.
What the fuck Nintendo?
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>>334928281
You better be joking
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>>334927365
>people still had faith in nintendo
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Nobody asked for the dual screen bullshit. Fuck you Nintendo.
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>a literal Nintendrone that buys amiibo by the bundle gave it a 2/5
Well, thats it i suppose.

This is the last Star Fox we're ever going to get.
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>>334927984
>frame drops
>in a subhd low poly on rails shooter
I promise I'm a bigger star fox fan than you are. Eat shit and grow some standards
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Uprising and Star Successor are pretty much what Star Fox Zero should have been.
Too bad they had to shove in gimmicks in a piss poor attempt at "innovating" a formula that clearly worked fine before.
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Zelda NX will be just as shit too. :)
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>>334928468
Reviews really don't matter in the let's play era
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>>334928281
Thank you for this post.
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>>334927365
First it's Dan Ryckert
Second...the game sucks mate.
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>>334928626
No one tells Nintendo what to do! They know what's best for you!

Like:
>Gimmicky meme controls
>Rehashed games
>Regionlocking
>Games that never fall in price
>Worst eshop in the world
>Worst account system in the world that just got updated but is still shit
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>>334927897
>Paying full price for an N64 game with updated graphics
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>>334928062
Do you even read your own post before shitposting?

>Paying $60 for a Star Fox 64 rehash that can be beaten in a few hours with graphics to match the era too is absurd.
>with graphics to match the era too is absurd.
>with graphics to match the era
>graphics to match the era

Fucking retard.
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>>334927723
This.
Just fucking let go.
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>>334928494
>they finally give any fans what they want
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>>334927915
>Jeff Ghurstman
I still remember making him nuclear level mad by saying he was a fat pos who judged too harshly in comments back when he was with gamespot.

He got so mad he banend me from GS forever and even called me and other people out in videos and articles back in the day haha

He would always pick on the stupidest things like default button/key binds or 'ugly ui' and knock like 2-4 points off the game vs every other reviewer at the time.
>>334927984
This.

He is a absolute retard
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>>334928281
Are you serious?
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>>334927365
One review from Giant Bomb. Thats it, everyone else is giving it 7 and above
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The Star Fox game I wanted in 2002 is the same as the Star Fox game I want now, so that's cool I guess.
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>>334928281
This nigga. Tip top baitery-doo
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>>334928070
>>334928134
yes, because the past few GiantBomb reviews werent "m-muh genderfluid interactive experience..."
>>334928692
Im not even hyped for StarFox, mate
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Miyamoto has gone senile. Put him in an old folks home and promote a younger guy.
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>>334927984
It could be the shitty controls
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>>334927365
Did anyone think this game looked good?
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>>334928837
fuck off, i wanted a star fox like the original. It's exactly what this it. Not the countless other directions they tried taking it.
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>>334928881
>7
ayyyyyy
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>>334927365
>we've reached a point where games are judged solely on superficial elements like graphics and story
Holy fuck, what went so irredeemably wrong?
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>>334927365
Krystal appears in the ending and joins star fox
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i can't think of another game that so completely encapsulates why the wii u has turned out to be the dismal failure that it is.
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>>334928281
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>>334928991
yea 7, 7/10.

What, you couldn't piece that together yourself?
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Maybe you'll get a better star fox rehash on your new mobile console
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>>334927365
>these are the people that think vr is salvagable outside anything but porn
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>>334929018
Starfox has shit gameplay too kid, it is literally a rail shooter.
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>>334928881
Shouldn't /v/ be sucking Giant Bomb's dick then? Everyone on here has said Star Fox Zero was going to be a disaster from the get go.
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>2 HOURS LONG
>Controls like shit
>Looks like shit
>Feels like an HD remaster
>2 HOURS LONG
>2 HOURS LONG

HOLY SHIT
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Star Fox Zero’s larger issue is that even though the format and gameplay are so similar to Star Fox 64, it feels like the time for this type of game has come and gone. If this had been released for the GameCube instead of Star Fox Adventures, I assume that it would have been almost universally praised by fans of the series. Virtually every element of the 64 entry is intact here. The campaign is largely Arwing-focused and features branching paths and secret exits until the final confrontation with Andross. Completionists can return to levels to collect all of the medals and try to beat their best kill score. Voice actors for the entire team return, and the dialogue features plenty of callbacks for nostalgic fans.

>All of this would have been welcome in the early 2000s, but the years of disappointing follow-ups and the overall progression of industry standards leads to Star Fox Zero having the impact of an HD rerelease rather than a full sequel. Being able to beat the game in 2-3 hours doesn't help, no matter how many branching paths or lackluster challenge missions are included. Even the moment-to-moment action doesn't have anywhere near the impact that it had almost two decades ago, as this limited style of gameplay feels dated in 2016. Nintendo finally released the Star Fox game that I thought I wanted, but it leaves me wondering what place Fox McCloud has in today’s gaming landscape.

>this is what anons are shitposting with
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IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS, SONY CANT WIN AGAIN
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>>334927723

NEW Dan doesn't rate games based on how good the graphics look or what tech.
Giants bombs reviews are based on innovations, So it if ts not bring anything new to the table then it gets a low score not that it had outdated graphics from the early 2000s
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>>334929018
>Story sucks
>Graphics sucks
>Only thing left is gameplay which is extremely simple and limited
So they're selling 1/3 of a game for full price
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>>334927365
nintendo doesn't know how to make games, they haven't since the 1990's
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>Nintendrones damage controlling garbage controls
>Nintendrones telling people to "git gud" at a game designed for children that literally has an invincibility mode
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>other thread deleted
Kek
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>>334927365
The Metascore is up to 69, soon it will be sitting at a good 70.

>>334929130
Looks like it. But then the moment Giant Bomb does something the hivemind doesn't approve of the board will go back to hating them.
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>>334929141
Nintendo rehashed something for the 1385th time and you're butthurt because people got bored of playing the same game over and over again.
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>the other two Star Fox Zero review threads get deleted
>the b8 thread with the lowest score stays

Top notch job there mods
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>>334929018
I can't believe it either anon, I mean HELLO PEOPLE! IT'S 2016 ITS THE GAMEPLAY THAT MATTERS!! Even if the game dips to 20fps despite looking like shit and having the gayest wiiu gimmick and not really adding anything valuable to the formula.
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>>334929018
>rail shooter with minimal story
>controller gimmicks ruin the gameplay
They've got to critique something.
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>>334928849
Are you illiterate? Jeff didn't review this game.
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>>334929018
60 American dollars for a 3 hour game
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>>334929018
>>334929018
Its an on rail shooter anon, not even a complex on rail shooter.
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>>334929248
Mods are complete shit, what else is new?
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The graphics and gameplay are shit even with a half year delay, what the hell was going on with this game, was Nintendo desperate to pad out their weak Wii U release schedule? Guess the only thing I have to look forward to is Zelda now.
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>>334928281
have a free (You)
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>>334929239
Even the clock that strikes only twelve is right twice a day.
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>>334929137
The original star fox is ~1hr long
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I don't fucking get nintendo.
Star fox is the kind of shit that you could release countless sequels of, just add new levels and dialogue and shit and you are good, but Nintendo has to fuck it up with new shit gimmicks and "innovation"
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>every sfz thread
>muh grafix
everyday I'm reminded that /v/ is dead
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What a shame
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3 HOURS
>3 HOURS
3 HOURS
>3 HOURS
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>>334928281
Ok, you made me smile.
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>>334929316
Zelda is going to be NX exclusive.
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>mfw I could probably run this game on my phone
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>>334928292
There are a few reviews out already, Giant Bomb gave it the lowest score. Most other reviews gave it a 7.
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>Dan Ryckert
Literally a retard
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>>334929246
>fans want star fox 64
>they get star fox 64
>too little too late
???
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>Dan Ryckert
Review discarded.
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So now that both Iwata and Miyamoto are dead, who's left in this rotten company?
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Jesus christ..
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>>334929359
Just be glad Nintendo/Miyamoto hasn't found a way to "innovate" F-Zero yet.
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>>334927365
game reviewers continue to bully rail shooters
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So wait let me get this straight never having played star fox games

>Fans get exactly what they want
>Game is 3 hours long (for a arcade game this isnt that bad they are designed to be replayed and are addictive)
>Multiplayer
>Well made
It even has the visuals of a late 90's Arcade game right down to the art style i like the way it looks honestly and i dont even own a Wii U

Such a shame it got released on a dead console in 1080p 60fps it would have been a nice little system seller
>>334929269
He is still very much a influence on the site and the reviewers
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>>334928819
THE 6TH GEN ERA

ITS A STAR FOX 64 REHASH WITH SIX GEN ERA, are you nintendrones so mad about the terrible review scores thst you forget to have basic reading comprehension?
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>>334929369
>Star Fox SNES looked good for the time, played well
>64 looked good for the time, played well
>Assault looked good for the time, played well
>Zero looks worse than Assault and has tacked on gamepad bullshit that wasn't necessary
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>>334929391
>>334929428
>getting worked by dirty dan
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Already bought it and will play it anyway. Will hope I have fun with it. Probably will.
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>>334929380
..and is gonna be the same game that was on the GameCube.
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2 HOURS

20 FPS
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>>334928149
No, it's "dot dot doting" like how your mom dotes on you. You know? It just shows Dan really cares about writing his reviews!
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>>334929380
its going to be cross-gen like TP was
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>>334929494
Star Fox 64 wasn't released for the sixth gen retard.
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>>334929526
I can taste your tears from here.
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>>334927365
Game seems alright for 35$
Game lacks a lot for 60+$
Fucking nintendo get your shit together and stop listening to your retarded marketers who cut budgets
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>>334927365
So I just read the review and one of the biggest negatives is the fact that the game is styled and laid out... Like a Star Fox game?

That's supposed to be a negative?
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>>334929515
LOL HE'S SUCH A HEEL HE'S REALLY JOBBING IT HAHA WRESTLING HAHA
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>>334929445
>no potato

NINTENDO IS FINISHED
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>>334929491
Zero doesn't have multiplayer, just a co-op mode where one person steers while the other shoots.
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>>334929239
>70 is suddenly good

I thought Nintendofans said that anything below 80 Is a flop, what happened?
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>>334927365

>Forced Wii U pad controls
>Beatable in 3 hours even though it has alternative routes
>60 dollary doos.

gee I wonder.
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>>334927984
thats polygon
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>>334929614
Holy shit...

Based Dirty Dan - I thought his heel gimmick was bad but he's working /v/ marks into a shoot.
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>>334929512
And do you think I really give a single fuck about grafix? Literally the only two problems that I see in SFZ threads are about grafix or gamepad controls. I can't say shit about gamepad, it might be bad or reviewers might be fucking horrible just like W101, KIU, etc. but fucking shut the hell up about graphics.
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>>334929445
>no potato
What?
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Guarantee this'll get shat on because people are too stubborn to tolerate experimental control schemes. It's happened before and it'll happen again. There's just no winning with these people.
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2 0 F P S
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>>334929635
>I thought /v/ said that anything below 80 Is a flop, what happened?

ftfy
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>people complaining about length

Starfox was always short as fuck with multiple paths for multiple play throughs. Not that it makes it ok, but at least know what you're getting into before complaining about it.
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>>334929602
also three things killed it for me, Hearing peppy say barrel roll every fucking time he does it, and motion controls.
The fact that the game is called starfox and it has tanks and walkers bugs me as well.
Why not take starfox 2, and add about 60 hours of content.
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>>334929491
>Fans get exactly what they want
If you're referring to the vocal minority on the internet that don't even own a Wii U, yes they got what they want. Most people that played 64 moved on years ago, nobody sane waits 2 decades for a game so this game appeals to a small vocal minority only.
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>>334929445
I don't understand three of those fucking con points.
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the......

power......

of......


miyamoto.........
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>>334929623
But thats a true arcade game

i bet if /v/ actually owned a wii u and had friends to play this with it would be a great game.

So what if it looks like a Early Gen 6 game its a nice looking Gen 6 game.

>WAAA BUT MUH GRAPHICS
Seriously there is no pleasing some people and i am a PC gamer who started out with arcades that had what 1024x768 res max but at least the FPS was stable thats my only major gripe with what ive seen of SFZ
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reminder
>nintendrones couldn't stop talking about how their 1st party got 80-90's scores during 2013-2014
>now that Nintendo is in damage control mode for 2015-2016, when they put out shit, rushed games that get scores in the 50-70's reviews don't matter
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>>334929723
>Experimental control schemes
that's a nice rationalization of shit controls
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>>334929647
If what he's saying is true, the game doesn't even have forced gamepad controls outside of the little robot bits. You can apparently just set it so that the gyro doesn't activate at all unless you hold down one of the triggers and ignore it altogether.
So much for all of those faggots whining that you can't turn them off.
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>>334929750
>$60
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>extremely similar to Star Fox 64 for better and for worse
>has the same length and playtime as a game released in 1997
>same plane, submarine and land sections with no evolution of gameplay
A rehash of a good game is fine, provided it polishes the core formula and still has some interesting new ideas and more content
except
>can be beaten in 2 hours
>exact same progression as 64
>graphics are absolutely awful; remember that Mario Kart 8 and Sm4sh look beautiful so there's no reason for SF0 to look this garbage


Meanwhile
>2011, a full five years earlier
>Kid Icarus Uprising comes out
>25 on rails shooting segments
>25 ground-fighting levels
>huge set of diverse weapons each with random modifiers
>robust multiplayer system
>adjustable difficulty curve from 1.0-9.0, higher difficulties mean better loot
>takes ~20 hours to beat
>is a completely fresh take on the IP
>is on a handheld system

If SF0 was meaty like KI:U literally nobody would be complaining
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The best starfox game ever made was okay.
Go play some panzer dragoon, fags.
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>>334928281
>when the Sun gets between the Earth and the Moon.
are you an idiot? that's an eclair
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>>334929824
this

nintenfriends loved to boast about muh review scores
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>>334929470
miyamoto doesn't even remember f-zero exists
but people like to pester him about it so I guess it'll happen eventually
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>>334929819
star fox's multiplayer combat was always a huge draw for me
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Even though I'm a Nintendo fan, I'm damn glad I cancelled my preorder months ago. Christ they should've done better.
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>>334929818
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The score steadily rising.
Final score maybe 70+, still bad for nintendo big title though.
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>>334929808
>graphics are shit
>it gets really stale since its the same shit
>ending mission is dull and repetitive over difficulty
>short
>meme
there you go retard, it's not every day when you have to hold nintolders hands
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>>334929835
Good post, I'm convinced,
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>>334929703
No, millions of fucking dollars went into this from a huge corporation that has enough money to buy out all of japan.

It's not even an artistic direction, it's that Nintendo is so incompetent that they can't make a fucking on rails shooter. capcom shat out 2 on rails shooters in 1 year for the wii that looks better than this.

I'd let this lie if the graphics were passable but holy fucking shit chicken mode looks geometrically retarded
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I was really excited for this game. Graphics don't really bother me as long as it's a fun game.

Hadn't been following the game too closely because I have other things going on in my life but I'm reading up on it now and it has shitty controls and mandatory dual screen motion controls and that sounds so unappealing that I no longer want to play the game.

I loved the original star fox and 64. I like the idea of just zoning out to a shooter without having to fuck with some complex controls.

10 years from now if I want to revisit this game I'll have forgotten the weird ass controls and have to spend hours just to get used to it again. I haven't played 64 in a couple years but I know I could at least pick it up and play without having a learning curve control wise.

Not saying it's going to be a bad game but it's just not for me.

Seems weird nintendo appears to market itself to a broad audience but then puts up all these barriers to people who just want to play a basic game.
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>>334929875
this desu

KI: U wasn't perfect but it was a good, fresh take on the franchise
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>>334927365
>even a nintoddler doesnt like it
dead
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>>334929795
So basically this is Nintedo's Duke nukem forever?

Ive been waiting for HL3 for over 10 years i doubt they will ever feel the pain i feel for Valve ditching the games market to focus on the most hilarous flops of all time

>SteamOS
>HTC Vive
>Motion Control gimmicks
>Stupid SteamPC's
>>334929943
Wait so it had Dogfighting and they took it out...

-_-
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>>334928932
link one review that's like that
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>While the GamePad functionality leaves a lot to be desired, it can be almost entirely ignored in most situations. I’d recommend setting the controls to “Motion Control only when pressing ZR,” and focusing on the main screen only.
I'm surprised no one is talking about this after four fucking months of "you can't turn motion controls off!"
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>>334927365
>Expecting anything good from what PlatinumGames touches
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>>334929819
>But that's a true arcade game
Considering previous games had splitscreen in addition the to main arcade mode and Assault was originally an arcade game which ended up a full game with multiplayer, I'm going to have to say no.
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I wonder what Miyamoto is doing right now...
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>>334929947
>>334929954
DELETE THIS
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>>334929964
Mate, you're literally defending gimmicky imprecise motion controls
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I remember getting that 3ds remake and realizing that star fox was only good for its time. Arcade-like games in general have not aged well at all
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>i-it's gonna blow ratchet and clank out out the water, y-you'll see!

NINTODDLERS BTFO
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>Star Fox Zero’s larger issue is that even though the format and gameplay are so similar to Star Fox 64, it feels like the time for this type of game has come and gone.
>Virtually every element of the 64 entry is intact here. The campaign is largely Arwing-focused and features branching paths and secret exits until the final confrontation with Andross.

How the fuck are those flaws? That sounds exactly what a good Star Fox game should be all about.
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>>334929545
Your posts are a diamond dozen.
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>Star Fox shills BTFO
>all the shitposters that went autistic at any criticism of the game on /v/ are killing themselves
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>>334928281
Calm down Ricky.
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>>334930032
Platinum was kicked out for interfering with Miyamoto's vision of remaking Starfox 64
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>>334929971
>No, millions of fucking dollars went into this from a huge corporation that has enough money to buy out all of japan.
>all of japan
Do you listen to yourself talk?
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>>334929565
I never said it did its literally star fox 64 for the gamecube but 10 years later, despite Assault looking better.


enjoy Star Flop 0/10 though, since shitposting is your last resort to come into terms with the game being a gimmicky rehash

dont get me wrong I wanted a good game, but this game had to be revealed when Nintendo talked about "innovation"
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>>334929565

>Being this retarded
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>>334929819
>But thats a true arcade game
Never mind the fact that there are billions of different arcade games with different setups, you have to push your personal blog opinion as fact.
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>>334927365
Gamekult: 4 out of 10

> no potato
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A Mexican website gave it 88

http://www.hobbyconsolas.com/reviews/star-fox-zero-analisis-142080
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>>334930117
>R&C IS ONLY 30 FPS HAHAHAHA
>star fox is 20 fps despite looking like shit
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>>334930056
He made the game he wanted, so probably nothing much. Nintendo disregard reviews just as much as reviews disregard them.
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>Nintendo still trying to force motion controls and split screen gimmicks in games where you need precise controls and focus on one screen at a time

What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>334930117
I love Nintendo but even I had more faith in Ratchet & Clank than this.

I feel like Nintendo might get some of their shit together once Miyamoto retires.
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>>334930197
>mexican intellectuals
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>>334930118
reviewers are retarded
/v/ jumps on anything for a chance to shitpost
more news at 11

it should be common knowledge to avoid /v/ when any game is going to be launched, dunno what happened but somehow /v/ actually gets worse every single year
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>>334930131
miyamoto was going to make a new star fox game that was episodic before he received feedback from fans that they wanted the star fox 64 formula. Don't tell lies.
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>>334930141
I do, though I don't have text to speech turned on, downsy.
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>Give Undertale and Gone Homo 10/10
>Say nothing negative about the orrendous graphics, gameplay elements that were old 20 years ago
>Somehow now its accaptable if i dont like the genre

Man video game journalism is truly joke
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>>334929978
>mandatory dual screen motion controls
Apparently they're not actually mandatory after all.
There's an option that sets them to a trigger instead of having them on all the time, so you can just play it like traditional Star Fox.
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>>334930117
how does that work? If we are talking about sales you'll have to wait a little more.
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>>334930045
Thats sad.
>>334930167
As i said i never even played star fox i just enjoyed watching the butthurt on here.
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>>334928183
IT'S 2 0 1 6 COME ON!
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>>334930219
They weren't

They stopped thinking in the 90s
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>>334930118
Because people expect good new shit after 20 years of waiting
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>>334930248
>waaah vee doesn't like rehashed garbage shit board waaaah mommmmyyyy!
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@334930283
>tripcode user

post binned
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>>334930301
lol
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>>334930283
>Giant Bomb
its literally gamespot 2.0

They basically invented the concept of 7.0/10 its ok IGN

Giving this game 2/5 is too harsh,
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>reviews matter when posting that metacritic comparison reviews

>use it for years

>it suddenly doesnt matter with the last 5 flops nintendo released

>reviews dont matter for star fox!!

it's sad
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>>334930336
note I said any game you fucking retard, I don't blindy suck off a company that doesn't give two shits about me
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>>334930281
maybe if you did, you'd realize what you type is fucking retarded.
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>>334930118
>it feels like the time for this type of game has come and gone.
Dude that retard wrote this with a straight face. He's giving up to the "it's <current year>" crowd.
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>>334930283
western journalists are inherently biased against jap games, but SF0 is still a piece of shit
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>>334930217
I wonder if he's going to pull a Gunpei Yokoi and go for a drive. Releasing this is shameful for someone of his stature.
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>>334930336
>He ironically typed this thinking it was smart.
Jesus Christ anon
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>>334930219
>forcing motion controls and split screen
>this very review confirms that you can actually just turn them off if you want
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>>334930409
>WAAAAAHHHHHH MOMMMMEEEEYYY
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>>334930086
I'm not defending them, since I haven't played with them yet, and I doubt you have either. But what I'm also not defending is rigid ignorant dumbfucks who immediately hate on a game because it has an experimental control scheme / motion controls. The same fucking shit happens to games I've loved in the past like KI:U and W101 and it's frankly a huge fucking shame to see good games swept under the rug because of complete ignorance. Get some critical thought.
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>>334928183
how old do you think the average star fox fan is at this point? he's just the fast guy from smash now
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Another Mexican website gave it 86

>Innovative

>Several vehicles and several ways to play

>Created by Platinum

>Story returns to its roots

Bad

>Obsolete graphics

>Contraintuitive

>Short
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>>334930423
Perhaps, though it would have to be after you learn what exaggerating is
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>>334930283
Are you saying that it looks like shit because it's the artstyle?
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>>334930442
You can't completely turn off gyro, just diminish its effect on aiming in certain levels. It's mandatory for others. Quit spreading misinformation or parroting /v/.
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>>334930483
http://www.levelup.com/Wii-U/juegos/324857/Star-Fox-Zero/review
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>>334930405
Its ok anon they just didnt get paid enough sheckles.

how crap like skyrim and witcher 3 can get good reviews i dont know

on the upside when the NX comes out nintendoshits only have to wait 4 years for games to come out then the console will die.

As typical with nintedoshit
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>>334930197
>>334930483
had no idea mexicans were nintendrones
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>>334930540
you too
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>>334930442
You can't turn them off retard
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>>334930301
Why is nintendrone always clinging to sales.
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>>334930462
>oh baby let me buy a console and buy it again two years later due to an upgrade that fucks over 40million people, there's literally nothing wrong with this, please fuck my ass oh yes I love it so much, I'll defend you with all my honor
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>>334930483
sound about right. I'm part of the people who thing nintendo reviews aren't too harsh, but others are the one getting free passes.
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MISHON COMPREE
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>sony fans hype up a game. It comes out and its great
>xbox fans hype up a game. It comes out and its average
>nintendo fans hype up a game. It comes out and it's shit
>pc gamers hype up a game. It never comes out

sony wins again
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Nintendofags on suicide watch
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>>334930648
CUMON!
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>>334930662
>sony fans hype up a game. It comes out and its great
wheres the game?
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>>334930631
how do you compare a platformer with a rail shooter? What's your metric?
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>>334930561
>>334930615
>You can't turn off the gyro
Except, oh wait, you totally fucking can.
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>>334929018
Uncharted 2 literally created this trend because of how popular it was with normalfags.
Fuck even my neighbour who's in his 40s and has a kid bought a PS3 for UC2 and cause of that everyone went on the games==movies train to make the prettiest and most pretentious B-list film quality games in existence.
Fuck even ancient shit like Secret of Mana has a better story then 95% of modern games. However the review in the OP sounds like it was writen by a pretentious douchebag who thinks he's so witty that he pretends that good games can't be good because of visuals despite giving garbage, which neither looks or plays good, ike Undertale near perfect scores.
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>>334930118
Reviewers have been shitting on every rail shooter released for the last 10 years. They even gave the space harrier rerelease a 7/10 even though its one of the all time great games of the genre.
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>>334930715
Bloodborne

mad nintoddler?
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>>334930483
>3 hour game
>60 Americans
>86%

Nope. Even if the gameplay is the best thing ever (it's not btw) 3 hours is just unacceptable.
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>>334930205
>20fps
>even though Digital Foundry only showed it dropping to low 40
ok
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>>334930605
Mexicans are the biggest drones
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>>334930717
Control, contents, production value, the love poured in to it.
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>>334930285

Are you sure about this because everything I've read says you need to play as a with the dual screens.

If you can play with traditional style controls I'd probably reconsider.
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>>334929818
lmao your gay pic is already outdated
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>>334930738
>it can be almost entirely ignored in most situations
>t feels like a traditional Star Fox experience outside of the few times it requires you to look down (when controlling a little robot in an effort to hack a panel, for instance)
How about you read the whole thing, you retard?
And it's mandatory for all-range mode bosses.
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>>334930320
If you want different new game then get a different new game, don't get a game from established series and then cry because it's like plays like previous games from that same series.
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>>334930662
>sony fans hype up a game. It comes out and its great
Just like Knack right?
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>>334929616
>>334929715

No potato: No punch.
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>reviews matter when posting that metacritic comparison reviews

>use it for years

>it suddenly doesnt matter with the last 5 flops nintendo released

>reviews dont matter for star fox!!

it's sad
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>>334930775
oh you mean the easiest souls game with the worst weapon variety and having an average amount of variety compared to the other games locked behind a dlc wall with the horrid netcode that gets fucked over because of ps4 online and constant framedrops everywhere and that DaS3 got the same gameplay formula in it already so it's already the superior choice? Any other game or just that one mediocre one?
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>>334930118

It should also be half the price or less, is what I assume he meant.
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>>334928281
I can't stop laughing.

I'm at work and I can't stop laughing.

Goddamnit anon.
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>>334930775
Sorry, i don't give a shit about that genre.
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>>334930715
ratchet and clank? bloodborne? until dawn?
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Zelda U better be the best shit ever, the Wii U was such a waste.
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Well this pretty much confirms Kamiya is a fucking hack.
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METACRITIC DELETED THE GIANT BOMB REVIEW
>METACRITIC DELETED THE GIANT BOMB REVIEW
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>>334930561
Wait this has gyro controls?

That shit was old hat in 2010 wtf are they doing?

Funny how they thought lightning would strike twice like the wii so they literally stuck 3 of them together and made a wii u with a 4770 gpu from 7 fucking years ago.

Its not only the stupidest most pointless console since the ouya ironically it has the worst graphics ive ever seen.

Even Zenoblade chronicals looks slightly better but still from 2005 yet people praise that turd?
>>
>/v/ turning against GB just because they gave SF0 a bad score

Holy shit you guys would most likely stab your mother if she said something bad about Nintendo
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>>334930946
I honestly can't tell anymore between actual sonyggers and falseflagging.
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>>334930285
>>334930442
>>334930738
you can "turn it off" for rail segments
it still has slight influence
you CANNOT turn it off for things like the gyrowing or boss fights like Aqua Rosa where the TV shifts to the cinematic view
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>>334930884
that was 3 years ago. the same length of the wiiu's life cycle
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The controls are the only negative thing I keep seeing on multiple reviews
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>>334930949
Yeah, not likely
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>>334927984
The guy that reviewed this is actually a huge nintendo fanboy and collects amiibos.
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>>334930925
Woah calm down, lets not talk about game you've never played.
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soo this is it huh........ we fought so hard.. and this is our reward
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>>334930980
WE WON BROS, WE DID IT

Now we just have to report every review below 75

COME ON BROS LETS DO THIS!!!
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>>334931024
But then your claim is false.
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>>334930936
>>334930925
>i-i-it d-doesn't count
check mate lads
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>>334929896
Fucking underrated post
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>>334930961
kamiya didnt work on this, it was probably the same team that did Korra and Transformers (C team)
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>>334930949
The year is half over soon i doubt its coming out considering the wii u is dead it will get a nx port
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>>334930981
I don't believe that this is a genuine post
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>>334931101
I own the game and platinum'd it, I'm just not blind enough to say it's the greatest fucking shit ever. Want a timestamp to prove it?
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>literally IT'S 2016 COME ON in the review
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I will happily buy this game on release day. That review is a disaster. It states that the game is the Star Fox game you've wanted for years, but that because it's 2016 the replayable arcade style is no longer allowed. If you think this type of game is dated, that's fine. I disagree, but I understand. However, you're reviewing an arcade style rail shooter in comparison to what? The supposedly sprawling and massive worlds of other games that pad the content out with effortless trash so that your save file can read 500 hours? If you don't like this style of game, make a statement at the beginning of the review and then let an objective review follow.
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http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/04/star_fox_zeros_arcade_mode_is_aimed_at_advanced_users_claims_shigeru_miyamoto
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>>334931030
>7.5 from ign
holy shit, that's basically a 2/10
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>>334930980
>>334931115
No they didn't, you mongs. Lower scores are at the bottom.
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>>334927365
>having platinum make a game that isn't basically a hack and slash, but also isn't vanquish
RECIPE FOR DISASTER
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>>334930015
the review may not directly state this, but the GiantBomb crew was extremly displeased over that release of the female pedobear. Might be payback for that.
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>>334930786
You're wrong
$60 is like two copies of the game over there
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>>334931204
T H I S
H
I
S
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>>334930219
>Let's just get this shit out so we can get back to working on the NX
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>>334931204
Compared to Kid Icarus, Zero's content is pathetic. Not to mention both have polarizing control schemes, so it's easy to rule that out.
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Its just a fucking rehash

We waited 10+ years for a fucking rehash? Fuck this game

If you buy it, you deserve garbage like Federation Force
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>>334928281
This is a joke right? Tell me it's a joke
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>>334930854
>>334931021
>mandatory for boss fights
It does not say that anywhere in that review.
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>>334930738

You can try to ignore these motion controls and simply use the movement of your ship to aim as normal. That’s easier said than done, though, because the motion controls can’t be turned off completely. So if you don’t want errant controller movement to throw off your aim, you have to hold the GamePad perfectly still in your lap or in front of you. (There’s an option to toggle motion controls to only work when pressing the “fire laser” button, but since you tend to press or hold that button for 90 percent of the game, that doesn’t help too much)

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/04/star-fox-zero-review-whats-star-fox-64-times-zero/
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>>334931173
ive never even played a wii u but the graphics are from 2005 or earlier.

Normally there would be nothing wrong with this but combine that with some of the worst games ive seen on a console you have a massive problem.

Nintendo should have pulled the plug on this abortion before it even launched.

They knew AMD was going to be used for next gen and what do they do?

Start making a console in 2009 that comes out in 2012 with 2008 tech...

Good job nintendo.

If the NX is good ill be happy for you nintendurs
>>
Dan Ryckert is like the hugest pleb and loves all the shit Nintendo shits down his mouth
So this game must be really bad for even that retard to think it sucks.
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>>334930949
The NX version will be.
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>>334930185
On s'en ballec de gamekult
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>>334928281

For the sake of mankind this is bate.
>>
Star fox and Star Fox 64 will forever be the only good Starfox games, that makes me sad.
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>>334927365
>Dan Ryckert
This guy is literally retarded.
I'm not big on Giant Bomb but I'd trust literally any other member over this dribbling retard.
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Real talk.

Does Nintendo even know how to make good games anymore?

What was the last game they made that really impressed people?
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>>334930483
>Innovative
It's not hard to innovate on a concept from 97. Did people honestly expect a that a game will be just like SF64?
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>>334931392
>It does not say that anywhere in that review
it doesn't mention the landmaster can transform either
are you going to go by the review or use your fucking brain and look up gameplay or try it yourself?
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>>334931242
Daily reminder Revenagance was poorly received by critics when it came out and MGV was a 10/10.
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>>334931204

>in comparison to what? The supposedly sprawling and massive worlds of other games that pad the content out with effortless trash so that your save file can read 500 hours?

There's a huge fucking area in between "contentless game that they want you to pay $60 for" and "open world game with content so bland it may have well been randomly generated."

You know, games that have enough, well-designed content to spend money on.
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>>334931558
Splatoon
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>>334930980
why would they
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>>334931565
Wow, so poorly received.
>>
this thread and dissapointment reminded me to finish kid icarus, thanks /v/!


>>334931531
he's a nintendrone just like you
>>
Star Fox was never good
>>
Pretty sure Nintendo's games starting getting shitty once Iwata died, that man must have been doing a lot more than we thought he was.
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>>334931558
I'd say Splatoon, but then you're implying you play games for more than fun.
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>>334931671
"when it came out"
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>>334931565
DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>334931392
Anon, people with review copies have already shown off the game and confirmed some bosses require the two-screens thing so you can move everywhere while also shooting everywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1SAt_Pe0Qk
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>>334931339
The thing is, I wouldn't mind a GOOD rehash. Like impressive visuals, longer gameplay, maybe more story elements.

But no, we get handed half-assed shit for a quick cash grab. Fuck Nintendo.
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>>334931565

>Daily reminder Revenagance was poorly received by critics when it came out

No?
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>>334930946
>until dawn
is shit
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>>334931204
>Objective review
>Current year
>Game Journalists.
LOL not likely.

There is no reviewer i can trust anymore i just try/pirate/buy games that look good and if i end up liking it i give it a good review.

People need to make up their own opinions but when your 15 or have mental impairment or a passing fancy in videogames rather than a full on obsession like most of /v/ then sure you have to go off reviews.

Fuck sake why do people put any worth on the shit that Giantbomb says.

They got VR and Vive pretty well summed up then they go and do a 180 on this game

Seriously no pleasing some people.
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>>334928249
Only flaw is no online leader board for an arcade shooter.
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>>334927984
You're a braindead ideologue who has no idea what they're talking about. If you're going to broadly shitpost at least pick a valid target, like Kotaku or Polygon. Or maybe you're just trolling.
Either way go back to your far right hugbox (8ch). Some people are retarded, autistic, or impressionable enough to actually be influenced by your nonsense and none of this shit is as simple as
>sjws are ruining muh gaems
I've seen a lot of really smart, cool people on 4chan over the past six years and there are still a lot of awesome people here. There are also a lot of people who are just fucking stupid (like you) and I wish they would shut up already.
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>>334928183
>>334928342

He means it in the sense that what people (including himself) expect out of games. Super Mario released today would barely qualify as a $10 mobile game. Starfox was amazing back when 3d graphics were new, but now in 2016 it's just another on rails shooter. Unless Nintendo does something more with that concept (like making a bullet hell type game) then it's just not interesting to play. Much like most of the garbage VR shooters, they would had been impressive a decade ago but today they're just shooters with a gimmick.
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>>334930884
Just like Devils 3rd right?
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>>334931479
>bate.
this is bait right?
>>
>in 2002
So what? Are they mad the game doesn't have more DLC and microtransaction and pointless forced online shit and QTEs and Cutscenes and gay characters?
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>>334927365
>There are still people buying nintendo games
>There will be people who buy the NX
This is what went wrong.
Nintendrones buy every shit as long as it is made by nintendo, which results nintendo thinking their shit dosent think and not even trying to make the best games anymore.
Seriously people need to wake up and stop eating up nintendos shit and sooner or later nintendo will realize that what they do dosent work.
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>>334930934
>counter card
>it's a spell
God this rustles my autism a mean one.
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>>334931589
Splatoon suffering from lack of content. Everything is in small variation, the map, weapon, character. Holy shit I got bored of it in 3 hours and now only japan autistic enough to play it.
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>>334928183
>current year
>anything being good
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For reference, Dan Ryckert buys all the amiibos and thinks garbage like Super Smash Bros for the Wii and Mario fucking Party are excellent games. He thinks that shitty Captain Toad game was excellent.

He has shit taste and always over rates anything Nintendo touches. This game is probably actually a legitimate 1/10
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>>334931749
Did you forget about "THE BOSSES ARE UNFAIR I CAN'T BEAT BLADEWOLF"
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>>334931701
fuck you
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>>334931247

so you can't link one (1) review that's like that

thanks m8
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>>334931717
I will post the big ones
Polygon - 90
Eurogamer - 90
Gamespot - 85
IGN - 85
GB - 80
Game Informer - 78
The only bad review from a big site is 70 by Edge
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>>334931175
Sure fag, do it.
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Ratchet & Clank
>$40
>87 metacritic
>8-12 hours
>tight, fluid controls

Star Fox Zero
>$60
>70 metacritic
>2-3 hours
>gimmicky shoehorned second screen gyro garbage

Pretty easy choice Tbh
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>>334931802
> Unless Nintendo does something more with that concept
You mean like a game where you get two views, one from behind the ship and one from the cockpit, so you can aim and move independently?
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>>334931204
>I-I-IT'S A RAIL SHOOTER!
>I-I-IT'S OKAY IF IT HAS MINIMAL CONTENT
this hand cramping piece of shit bundled with a fucking handheld stand had a longer main story, tons of unlockables, local multiplayer, and online multiplayer
what's zero's fucking excuse?
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>>334931717
No seriously, what the hell are you talking about?
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>Dan Ryckert
lel

"It's the game you wanted in 2002"
hesrightyouknow.jpeg
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>>334931901

I get the feeling that he's probably a Krystalfag in hiding.
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>>334931901
>Mario fucking Party
did you actually get worked by Dan's heel persona?
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>>334931321

See, if the reviewer had elaborated a bit, and compared the game to Kid Icarus, which also has a rail shooter aspect, then the review would be significantly stronger. In fact, I can agree that Zero could certainly benefit from some more content. Hell, maybe you can have an Awing part system similar to Kid Icarus weapon fusion. In any case, perhaps you should have reviewed the game instead.

I'm not saying the game deserves a ten. I'm just saying this is a poor review. You have to make comparisons and provide some evidence rather than say, "But, I mean, it's 2016 . . . Like, come on."
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>>334931841
only legit criticism i am seeing is the controls.

Apart from that arcade games where never meant to have flashy visuals.

Shame they fucked up on the controls this looks like the type of game that would have been amazing with a real joystick.
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>>334927365
Should prolly be a 3
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>>334931953
>bad review
>70
Videogames were a mistake.
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>>334931841
>being this salty
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>>334931204

If it wants to be an arcade game it has to be longer than 3 hours. Making the game more difficult would had been the easiest path here.
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>>334931901
Captain Toad was great faggot
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literally wonderful101 all over again
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>>334931965
It's 40$ without Guard
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>>334931749
>-Camera is awful
>-Gameplay is unresponsive and unfair
>+It's metal Gear though

The brand is why people rated MGV a 10/10 even though it was majorly flawed while Revengance's difficultly caused people to rate it less favourably even though it's one of the best Metal Gears to date.
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Evan as a Nintendo fanboy I'm loving this.
Maybe now Nintendo will never waste their time on this stupid IP ever again.
Good riddance.
Now they'll have more time to work on franchises I actually care about.
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>>334931680
Not even a Nintendo fan really, it's just whenever I see Dan Ryckert I have to remind people this is the guy who fucking microwaved hot dogs in the same shoebox for his college life and thought egg whites were the shells.

The game might well be bad, but whatever Dan Ryckert says you should take as the ramblings of a downie.
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>>334932081
Unfavorable, whatever. Metactitic's yellow starts with 70
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>>334931701
this. It was a cute demo for children that nostalgiafags cry over
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>>334931965
>Ratchet & Clank
>30fps
>Wonky controls

>Shit Fox
>40-55fps
>Awkward controls
>Good response times
>replayable
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>>334932074
>arcade games where never meant to have flashy visuals
This isn't your average everyday damage control.

This is...

ADVANCED damage control.
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This game is proof that post 2007 Nintendo has no idea how to make a proper sequel

>Lets just rehash it guys
>BRILLIANT
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>>334931809
Just like DoA Extreme right?
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>>334931965
>>tight, fluid controls
>Capped at 30fps
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>>334931751

It's just a prank bro.

No, seriously, that game is great.
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>>334927365
>hey it's the game you wanted but never got, but it's bad that you got it now because it's Current Year!

Yeah, no, fuck off, I want that SF/SF64 gameplay. That said, if anything is going to be wrong with SFZ it's going to be the forced gyropad. The reviewers have all been horrible at the game from the videos I've seen, but that might have partially been the controls.
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>>334927365
Nintendo refused to make Fox say:

>Andross won't have his way with me!!!

I knew the game would be bad right then and there.
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>IT'S A RETURN TO FORM THEY SAID
>THE STAR FOX WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SINCE SF64 THEY SAID
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>>334932142
Agreed, railshooters are dead, like beat-em-ups, and they need to stay that way.
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imagine if your decision to purchase a game was decided by the color of a box on a website. pathetic. simply pathetic.
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>>334932074
>arcade games where never meant to have flashy visuals
What the fuck are you on about? Most arcade games look fucking amazing.
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>HE'S JUST SAYING LE CURRENT YEAR MEME!
His point is that the level of improvements over Star Fox 64 do not feel like 17 years of improvements, it feels like a rehash iterative release, which if it was 2002 it would be fine, but the level of improvements and polish do not match how long it took for the game to be made. He's not saying it's bad because it's 2016, he's saying the game should be better because Nintendo at this point should be better.
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>>334932215
Wow so its 10fps more than starfox.
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>>334932247
Stop ruining /co/
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>>334927365
>Giant Bomb Review
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>>334932282
what if the color of the box on a website changed depending on the general opinions of critics and reviewers?
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>>334932190
A reshash would have been good, this is a fucking trainwreak.
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ITS 2016 COME ON
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>>334932096
Salty about dissing 2002 gaming, not about dissing space furries. Just want to make that clear.
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>>334932289
I thought Star Fox capped at 60fps? I could be wrong.
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I'VE HAD IT WITH YOU SONYGGERS FUCKING UP MY GAME REVIEWS!!! FUCK YOUR STUPID RACHET AND CLANK GAME STAR FOX 0 IS BETTER REVIEWS DONT MATTER!!!


IF I HEAR SOMEONE SHITPOST ABOUT STAR FOX 0 ONE MORE TIME YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH!

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!

*oblirates stupid sonyggers with my objective truth sword*
heh....
*looks at ashes*
did I do good reggie? I hope we get more amiibos...
*sheathes sword*
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>>334932286
No videogame has gone through 17 years of improvements.

Everything after the PS2 gen is the same shit.
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>>334932320
Nuts & Bolts was a good game, just not a good banjo game
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>>334931873

That's a quick-play spell, you nigger.
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gee, it's almost like forced gimmicky bullshit gyro controls AREN'T a good thing

when will miyamoto retire?
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>>334932181
>30 locked fps vs 15 fps spikes
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>>334932320
why the hell is Braid there? could you not find a sixth bad review?
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>>334932286
Is he saying that, anon? Is he?
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I have enough of this.
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>>334929565
holy shit haha
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>>334932183
Dumb spongeposter

>>334932320
I don't know what annoys me more there, MGS4 or N&B
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>>334928964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dywc5iCMjq4
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>>334932385
epic
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>game comes out in 2016
>exact same gameplay of the original game that came out 20 years ago
>doesn't improve the series in any way, is basically an HD reboot
>nintendo loyalists actually defend it

Even if you liked Star Fox, remaking the same game 20 years later at $60 a pop isn't enough. If anything it goes to show that nintendo loyalists want the same game sold to them over and over. Especially when fans can just replay the old game and get more or less the same experience.

by the way I am a Wii U owner but I see Nintendo for the cheap fucks they are. They can't do anything new or interesting, and why would they when their staunchest fans will buy anything they make?
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>>334932406
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>>334932286
>It has been 17 years since last game
>Must mean it has been in development for 17 years
>hurr durr
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>>334932074
>arcade games where never meant to have flashy visuals
Don't twist shit to your convenience. Most arcade games provided quarter-inhaling gameplay while also looking flashy. Even fucking Galaga was flashy for the time.
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>>334929551
So the Wii u will be the superior version then?
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>It's a rehash
>"FUCKING NINTENDO REHASHING GAMES GOD FUCKING DAMNIIIIIIIIIT!"
>It's not a rehash
>"FUCKING NINTENDO TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT GOD FUCKING DAMNIIIIIIIIIIT!"
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>taking a game journalist opinon seriously
>taking giant bomb reviews seriously
>listening to anything Dan rykertt says
Honestly you kids today need to think for yourself.
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>>334932208
Just like sonic BOOM right?
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>>334932127

No it fucking isnt, it's $50 without it
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Reviewers don't like motion controls because they are nerds with no motor skills. Its why they've been attacking them since the very beginning.
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>>334931802
>just another on rails shooter

Did this genre came back? I must have missed because I only played After Burner Climax past gen.
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>>334932394

that doesn't excuse nintendo

though I'd argue TES has become a 10/10 porn game
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>>334932579
this game somehow manages to get both of those shitposts
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>>334932378
He exaggerated. The frame dips to 30-40 fps.
Still bad though considering its a short rail shooter with sub-HD graphic.
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>>334932579
It's almost as dank as the "Nintendo will go bankrupt soon" meme
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>>334931975
That's a horseshit concept that eptiomizes how awful and Jewish Nintendo is and how much they shit on their fans. No one asked for anything Nintendo's ever done and they've fallen to sub-Sega depths because of it.
>>
How long is the game if you go through every path?
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>>334932247
Giantbomb hated it BECAUSE it returned to form. They are also huge faggots that shouldn't be taken seriously
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>>334932595
Damn you anon that's a low blow.
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>>334932130
>A Metal Gear argument in a Star Fox thread.
Why the fuck even?
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>>334932074
>arcade games where never meant to have flashy visuals
Go emulate some arcade games and come back, faggot.
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>>334932579
SF0 is somehow both at the same time, a 3 hour long rail shooter that does nothing and also costs $60, and "innovation" with shit controls no one wanted.
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>>334929703
>but fucking shut the hell up about graphics.
But it's a legitimate complaint. It's not stylized or anything, they just look flat out bad
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>>334932461
jesus lmao
>>
Legitimate question

Why should I buy this when I own Star Fox 3DS?
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>>334932667
lmao is this a genuine post? you're such a fucking drama queen
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>>334932598
Well one of us is wrong and one of us is right
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>>334927723
>graphics are 6th gen tier

Oh god the shitposters are trying so desperately. Here's your (You)
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>>334932385
Speaking as an idort, this is going too far and is starting to worry me
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>>334931872
Sadly never going to happen. The power of mommy and daddy's credit card buying shit for uncle TV to entertain there kids is strong in the Nintendo fanbase. The few adult minority that actually cares and buys games I don't Nintendo never listens.
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>>334932534
Go eck yourself you fat jew
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>>334932525

>remaking the same game 20 years later at $60 a pop isn't enough

fucking this, SFZ is a $60 rehash. We wouldn't be in this situation if Nintendo wasn't charging full price for it.
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>Platinum is developing the next star fox game!
>Oh but they're strictly following miyamoto's lead
This is one of the biggest wastes of potential I've seen. Even fucking W101 had like a 15+ average playtime without including replays.
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>>334932627

Nope, and it never will.
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>>334932461
where's xbox
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>>334932130

But it was still well received, unless those very same reviewers were lying about their scores.
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>>334931962
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>>334927365
>just bought a N64 with Starfox 64, have a blast playing it YET AGAIN
>fuck I wish I had money for the WiiU and new Starfox
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>>334927365
well then it must be good, because everyone has been bitching about wanting a true star fox 64 sequel
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>>334932750

you shouldn't buy it
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Looks like this will be the final score.
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>/v/ shits on Kid Icarus for having bad controls despite having tons of content
>/v/ leaps to defend Star Fox with bad controls despite having barely any content
Don't even get me started on the amount of people on this board who haven't even heard of Sin & Punishment.
>>
It's hilarious reading all the Giant Bomb lovers in this thread. Im surprised they haven't already hung themselves after bernie lost last night.
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>>334927365
People are finally realizing nintendo games are for babies.
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>>334932776
They bundled a second game, that's why they're charging 60 dollars. Even the new Rachet and Clank isn't worth 40 bucks on its own.
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>>334932690
>They are also huge faggots that shouldn't be taken seriously

Okay, what about the other 20 negative to mediocre reviews?
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>>334932774
>All that empty content
>Racing
>Glitches all over the place
>Plus a disgrace to the other games

It was though.
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>>334932320
>Undertale, nut&bolts, and MGS5
>Bad
Looks like another bumhurt lad is in
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>>334932880
but it has content.
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>>334927365
>reviewers give shitty graphics game a good rating
>/v/ goes nuts
>they finally give a piece of shit the review it deserves
>MAH NINTENDOO
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>>334932789
There's green thing near the sonygger leg.
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At the end of the day nintendo fucked up with the wii u on every level and this game suffered all their games suffered i cant think of one genuinely original game this system has, its a stupid abortion that makes the wii look like the ps2.
>>334932183
As i said i am not a nintendrone i just like arcade games.

Fast streamlined simple visuals and simple gameplay > Generic openworld boring sandbox autism walking simulators.

Granted nintendrones are fucking deluded but the reviewer in OP's post is a fucking retard.

I'd understand if the game was sub 720p and ran at 20fps but it isnt and doesnt.

>Muh graphics
Its a console from 2008 with a cpu from the late 90's its keeping up fine considering how woefully underpowered it actually is.
>>334932283
If your playing nu arcade shit post 2000 i feel sorry for you.
>>334932441
Granted this is inexcusable in a arcade game.
>>334932560
And ? I just dont think the reviews about graphics are justified in context the console punches pretty well above its weight.

It launched 5 years late though the WII is a oddity that should never have happened or been sucessful at all.

The wii u should have come out in 2008 with a normal controller it would have done alrite at least it would have had gen 7 games and alot of them considering both the 360 and ps3 where somewhat similar to the Wii u
>>334932728
>2D=3D
Move goalposts much?
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>>334932636
Which means the reality is that its done something new and exciting while still pleasing old fans.
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>>334932782
I wonder how many times miyamoto did his famous table flipping routines and demanded platinum change x thing and shoehorn y gimmick. He really is out of touch now.
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>All this fucking denial
Kekarooni
The nintentoddler tears are absolutely delicious. The more and more nintendo falls down to the shithole they are,The tastier the tears are
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>>334932074
How fucking underage are you? Arcade games were always about being flashy. Consoles back in the day were always trying to brag about how ports on their systems were "arcade perfect". You only don't see it now because arcades have become largely irrelevant.
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>>334928932
>yes, because the past few GiantBomb reviews werent "m-muh genderfluid interactive experience..."

Do you have a link or something? I used to watch giantbomb when it was possible to hack and watch their videos for free and I've not once heard nothing like that. At least not from people that mattered, fuck Patrick Keplek.
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>>334932385
You fucking cuck
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>>334932215
Yeah solid 30 fps is way better than what SF0 has with frametime being all over the place, which actually causes issues.
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>>334932880
>/v/ shits on Kid Icarus for having bad controls
At least it stays true to the original.
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>People saying a game will be good/bad based on reviewers and when the game isn't out so this is all they have to go on

Laughing at you all tbph
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so this is the power of miyamoto..................... huh
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>>334932965
that's luigi
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>>334932081

I didn't drop out of high school, so I understand that review scores are biased towards the education style ranking system. 70% is bad.

Even if 70% was considered average, most people have better things to do with their time and money than play average games -- a 7 is just as bad as a 1 if you won't play the game either way.
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>>334928183
>scared because I just pre-ordered it
>read this
>no more fucks were given that day

Gamecube era Nintendo? I'm more hyped for SFZ than I was before now.
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>>334927365
damn, only 2 stars from Dan fucking Ryckert! 0_o
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>>334933024
Back in my day 3d was considered flashy visuals just because it was 3D

Im 25 grew up with DOS games and sega arcades.
>>334933079
its almost as if they never played the game themselves.
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>>334933051
I hope you're being ironic.
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>>334932812
its my only fucking game on ps4 too and now a ps4.5 is coming out, fucking stupid shit
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>>334932130
same with Halo though, and I love Halo have bought every single one yet I can see the game flaws and it still gets pretty good scores.

anyway nowadays you see games with pretty boring repetitive gameplay and little to no innovation and they get praised due to their story (even though they mostly suck) yet for Nintendo, every reviewer expects them to reinvent every single franchise and if not, they are panned for it.
>>
NINTENDO FANS:

This game was not aimed at you. If you played this videogame as a child, you're now just too old to keep being profitable as a demographic.

You can't give actual 8 - 14yo kids this piece of shit.
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>>334932406
>>334932481
>>334932925
>nuts and bolts
>good
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>>334930118
>on-rail shooter with terrible wii u gimmicks, frame rate drops, and lasts 2 hours max
>2016, for $60

It's a phone game anon
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For some reason, I think this game looks way more fun when you're using the retro arwing from the SNES.

Either way, yeah I could see this coming from a mile away, it's just Starfox 64, again.

Starfox kind of got BTFO by Rogue Squadron 2 anyway in terms of space arcade shooters.
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>>334932750
You should save your money.
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>>334932978
fuck you Mario Kart and Mario 3D looked alot better than this trash by miles
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>>334933154
No i am not.
Frametime being all over the place actually causes issues like input lag.
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>>334932978
>it doesn't count as an arcade game because it's 2D
Yeah, you are moving the goalposts, faggot.
You said arcade games weren't meant to be flashy, yet literally every 2D one proves you wrong. Shit, even 3D racing games looked better than most console games.
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>>334932215
>fps affects gameplay!!
It doesn't affect it in any perceivable way. The difference in between 30fps and 60fps is about 8ms or 1/125th of second. For comparison, the fastest possible human reaction speed is 120ms, and the average is about 325ms.

Most games have around 100ms of input lag completely independent of the frame rate. Frame rate really isn't important at all in any significant way. And certainly not outside the genres of twitch FPS, rhythm, platformer, racing, and fighting (almost all of which run at 60fps).
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I fucking hate you retards so much
>STOP MAKING GAMES GIMMICKY NINTENDO, WE WANT SOMETHING NORMAL BUT WITH GOOD GRAPHICS ETC
>WHAT? THIS IS JUST A N64 GAME BUT WITH BETTER GRAPHICS RELEASED TODAY, THAT'S ALL??
>>
>>334932789

Exactly.
>>
BUT RATCHET & CLANK'S 30 FPS!

30!

HOW CAN THEY DO THIS TO US, NINTENBROS?
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>>334933241
No not that.
The 30fps.
>>
Platinum should just fire Kamiya at this point. The man is a fucking hack.
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>>334933024
Nah anon, Arcade games just looked better cause they had better hardware, but it wasnt about being flashy, they were games that tried new shit that consoles couldnt do due to lack of power.
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>>334933154
Not him but fixed framerate is way better for the controls in general, especially the camera movement that is tried to the framerate. This is one of the main reason why I always hold the game above 60 no matter the circumstances. Not like console plebs can understand that anyway.
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>>334932978
>nu arcade shit post 2000
>nothing on arcades looked flashy or good before
You adore shitposting to your convenience, don't you? You just can't be wrong.
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>>334933335
kamiya didnt touch this disaster
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>>334933335
>muh scapegoat
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>>334933291
Except this game is gimmicky, and has horrendous graphics compared to other modern releases.
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>>334933223
>Rogue Squadron Trilogy was never released
It still hurts
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>>334933162

that's mostly because walking sims like gone home come from indie devs and cost $20, whilist nintendo is a AAA game publisher that is selling SF0 for $60

most reviewers (and people) expect new things out of nintendo, because why bother buying new nintendo products if they're all the same?
>>
Well I guess you could say that it's a zero out of ten
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>>334932812
Stop using my ps4 Tyler
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>>334933291
The funny thing is that zero still has gimmicks and still looks terrible.
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>>334930925
>framedrops

lmao faggot
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>>334933290
Hyper light Drifter suffered greatly from being 30fps.

That 1/125th is noticeable for most of us, anon.
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>>334933291
Make good gimmicks that flow in well and/or remakes that aren't a worse version
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>>334932732
>it did nothing new!

Yet no one ever says what they wanted to be done when they bring this up.

>I hate the controls!

I can use them just fine, you being unable to adapt doesn't make it bad.
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>>334931979
The rail shooting in Kid Icarus was boring as shit and only served to give the characters time to explain what the fuck is going on.
>>
How do you want your game senpai?
>>
Japanese Phil Fish strikes again
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>>334933206
I'm the middle one and my point was literally that they weren't that great, defintely not 5*
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http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/20/11466308/not-a-review-star-fox-zero

> This isn't a review of Star Fox Zero. Save for very rare, extreme circumstances, Polygon reviews require that a game be completed, or at least a good faith effort be made to complete it.

>I am not playing any more Star Fox Zero.
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>>334933235
>Trash looks better than slightly uglier trash
visually its still trash.

All wii u games look horrible

Even Gamecube games look better than most Wii games

>>334933273
Why are you arguing with me?

I am talking about the visual style of arcade games not >MUH GRAPHICS

>>334933369
How is it shit posting? i just dont like modern arcade games.

Something like this comes along that retro hipster faggots would normally eat up and sell for $15 on steam early access is been shit on just because its a wii u game made by nintendo/platinum
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>>334933291

make something normal =! make something boring and repetitive

I guess it goes to show that nintendo can't make videogames anymore without rehashing older ones, or doing something stupid and gimmicky (like motion controls)
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>>334933393
The annoying thing about this is that Rogue Squadron 3D is basically unplayable by todays standards.

Bought it on GOG a while back, you literally have like a 5 meter draw distance.
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>>334933314
Yeah solid 30 fps without drops is better than the 35-50 fps(that never stays in any area but always makes big jumps) SF0 has.
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>>334933423
Do you think it has no frame drops or that dropping below 30 is acceptable? Either way I proved I have the game and 100%'d it so my complaints are valid.
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>>334933354
>but it wasnt about being flashy
anon consoles couldn't even do what arcades did
if arcade games were never about being flashy, they never would have evolved past vectrex shit
quit being a tryhard faggot who can't admit to being wrong
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The day when Nintendo gives up on making consoles and gives away its IP to more competent, more open minded individuals will be a great one.
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>People trying to say Platinum, not Nintendo alone, but Platinum is shit

Neo-/v/ is real
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>>334933458
JUST GIMMICK MY SHIT UP
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>>334933447
Love Kid Icarus but I agree that some levels were just too long for the sake of being too long.

Pit: Are we there yet?

defeat 10 waves of enemies etc etc etc.

its a great game and probably one of my favorite 3ds games, but the game feels padded to seem longer, that said, it is cool that you can unlock new weapons and shit. however Starfox DOES have multiple routes as well, so even if you do finish the game in 2-3 hours you still havent actually played through all the routes.
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>>334933440
List the gimmicks you want, then. If you're going to demand them then tell us what they are.

>worse than the original

How? Because "muh graphics abloobloo" and "I can't understand how to tilt something abloobloo"?
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>>334933223
When I bought Gamecube Rogue Leader was the launch title that I bought with, was expecting a mediocre Star Wars experience which is supposed to happen, but turned out that game was GOAT tier. It set me up high hopes for the Star Fox on the same console which should inevitably come and deliver. I was wrong...
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>>334933569
I can't wait for fox to start thinking he's a woman and the game being about gay rights.
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Tropical freeze got mediocre reviews and it's one of the best platformers of all time. Who cares.
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>>334933537
I'm not talking about modern arcade games, I'm talking about you dismissing all past arcade games as never being flashy because it fits your stupid generalization of an argument.
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>>334933582
platinum are shit, haven't made a good game since they were called clover.
not blaming them for starfox though.
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>>334933521
Lol holy fuck its real.

I could tell this game would be a turd from the start it looked bad when it was annouced and it looks bad now.

That said we need more big budget arcade shooters and this basically killed the genre.

Thanks nintendo!
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>>334933569
Agreed, I can't wait to make the perfect queer, genderfluid Link of my dreams in LoZ with open world elements.
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>>334933554
>frame drops

LMAO faggot
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nintendo lost their touch and their fanboys will defend anything they do. Same was true of sega, with everyone shitting on the PS1 and Gamecube because they didn't play "real games"
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>>334930126
Kek
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>>334933354
And why do you think they bothered using newer hardware if they could have cut costs sticking to older stuff? Because they needed to wow people, because arcades are an invoronment where you needed to compete for the eye of patrons that have dozens of games to spend their quarters on.
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>>334933521
>Star Fox Zero suggests that you can disable motion controls, but that isn't actually the case. They can be disabled during default Arwing combat, but there are numerous points where motion controls are the only available aiming option. This includes during ground-based segments using the walker, helicopter or tank vehicles. And to add insult to injury, even when some motion controls are disabled, your in-game companions will drone on and on about using them for greater accuracy.

Who thought this was a good idea? Do I blame Platinum or some fuckheads at Nintendo?
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>>334933717
>sonyggers
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>>334928281
>An ellipse is when the Sun gets between the Earth and the Moon.
Holy hell, that made me (lol
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>>334933521
What a fucking child. Do your job and finish the fucking game.
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>all reviews so far have been that the game is fucking perfect but waaah, the controls are too hard
Come me unconvinced. Git fucking gud.
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>>334931780
They will never leave. They will never shut up. Just do the thing every grown-up eventually does and leave this shithole. If you're not into petty politically charged shitposting, there's nothing left here for you.
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>>334933745
LMAO FAGGOT
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>>334933657
I am saying they never put graphics above anything critical like framerate, gimmicks or gameplay.

If they managed to look nice it was a bonus but it had to play smooth not drop below 60fps like this trash.
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>>334933731
Just gimmick my shit up
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How many of you own the game anyway?

Uh huh
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>>334933624
>>334933696
Fucking morons, there's more to being open minded than about gender politics
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>>334927365

That isn't not a AAA release with $100+ million in marketing

Basically Nintendo didn't pay giant bomb. Also if you look at the reviewer's bio page, he's a literal moron.
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> Nintendo try to innovate the series
> "We just want 64 again though"
> Platinum try to recapture spirit of 64
> "But where's the innovation?"

Literally can't win.

Honestly, the only consistent complaint I'm really seeing is the controls being a bit tricky to get used to. And it's a Platinum game so what were you really expecting? They always throw you into the deep end.
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>>334933719
well it's true. sega really was in a league of their own
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>>334933731
Miyamoto, he's always pushing motion control shit in games.
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>>334933731
Miyamoto
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>>334933731
>Do I blame Platinum or some fuckheads at Nintendo?
MIYAMOTO. This old fuck need to retire.
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>>334933561
>http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/20/11466308/not-a-review-star-fox-zero

Karate champ sure was flashy right? Yier Kung Fu sure was flashy, while there are tons of games that did look better than console games there are tons of games that looked about the same, some games did make use of the extra horse power of arcades while some didnt, remember that these machines costs a lot of money so not everyone could make a game that costed a lot.

Hell the only reason SNK arcade machines were so succesful was because they used carts and could have up to 4 carts in a single machine, thus eliminating the SPACE and the money of having to buy 4 separate arcade cabinets.
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Trust /v/ to not qoute the article correctly and cherry pick the worst parts
>There are things that I don't hate about Star Fox Zero. It's not a terrible-looking game, and it evokes the simplified, polygonal origins of the series in a way that makes sense. It's clear and easy to read, and the talking heads that have always featured prominently in previous games have been lovingly recreated in the most anachronistic way by new series stewards Platinum Games — Platinum even included the badly digitized "good luck" sound bite from the original game before each mission begins. In the beginning, it's charming in its own way.
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>>334933805
JUST BUY THE GAME GOYIM
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>>334933719
the same can and will be true for sony, the PS4K is the beginning of the end. If people are stupid enough to buy it because of muh framerates it opens the floodgates to them doing exactly what Nintendo does now.
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>>334933815
Sorry, can't wait for falco to be officially a nigger.
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they already tricked me into buying a wii u
they aren't going to trick me into buying games for it knowing full well better versions will be out in a year on NX
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>>334933628
Stop that, we're shitposting about Nintendo, reviewers and their scores are the be-all end-all of how good a game is, why should we bother even looking at a game when some internet journalists can tell us everything we need to know to pass judgment.
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>>334933829
why does she get niggerlips when she goes lewd
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>>334929835
>Splatoon has experimental controls
>ITS SHIT! SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
>Game ends up being a success and loved by many

weh
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>>334933875
Arcade always were better hardware wise than home consoles, till ps2 era i think.
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>>334933829
I was thinking about that animation the other day but couldn't find it, thanks anon. Fucking frenchies. Isn't there a second part with her in the video where it's censored? I haven't watched it in a few years so I might be wrong.
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>>334933521

tl;dr

>That charm doesn't last, however. Star Fox Zero feels like every muddled, unsuccessful experiment with the Wii U was stuffed into a single game. By default, aiming in this mostly on-rails shooter is handled via motion controls, though unlike some other Wii U titles, you can't use a Wiimote and Nunchuk peripheral. This means aiming with the GamePad, which would be bad enough on its own. But there are also extended, often arbitrary seeming sequences where camera control on your television is taken away, locking the view to a fixed position, at which point Star Fox Zero forces you to use the screen on the GamePad to play the game from a constricted "cockpit view."

>While in cockpit view, you'll still need to fly your Arwing like normal , which requires both analog sticks on the GamePad. In effect, Star Fox Zero often wants you to manage the equivalent of three analog sticks to play the game, which is ridiculous — the game isn't doing anything other space combat games haven't achieved using fewer inputs, and more effectively than Platinum manages here to boot.

>Star Fox Zero suggests that you can disable motion controls, but that isn't actually the case. They can be disabled during default Arwing combat, but there are numerous points where motion controls are the only available aiming option. This includes during ground-based segments using the walker, helicopter or tank vehicles. And to add insult to injury, even when some motion controls are disabled, your in-game companions will drone on and on about using them for greater accuracy.
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>>334927873
It has the kind of poopy graphics I'd expect from the pii poo. When will nintoddlers grow up and stop playing poopy games all day? Do they like it? Do they like the taste of moist poopy in their mouths while god gamers play Bloodborne and Dark souls 3?
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Nintendo have just been completely trainwrecking this gen. The Wii U could have been forgivable, but even then, the good Nintendo games just haven't come. Pretty much all of the Nintendo releases on the WiiU have been subpar, Mario Kart 8 for example is just so sparse in content, even 3DS Nintendo games have been eeehhh.

It really has dampened my spirits for the new Zelda game honestly.

People here hate the Wii, but honesty, the Wii is probably one of my favourite consoles of all time in terms of sheer number of great games for it.
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>>334933487
Please remember this is the internet and you tone of voice will not be present. Typing "I don't know what annoys me more" doesn't say anything without context. Git Gud at image boards.
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>>334933696
>>334933624
The issue is that Nintendo is lagging behind everyone else, in terms of the conventions of gaming, they're somewhere between 5 and 10 years behind the rest. I mean, for fucks sake, they're still trying online purchases to consoles! The miiverse is a fucking joke and their total lack of desire to grow is alarming. But sure take it to some retarded tumblr reasoning you fucking autistic motherfuckers
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>>334933608
Oh I love KI:Uprising as well and it IS my favorite 3ds game, but there's a reason why all the only modes are ground battles.
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>>334933989
But you don't have to play with the shit controls in Splatoon, you're FORCED to in SF0
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>>334930631
Because sales are what it all comes down to in the gaming market?
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>>334934074
>they're still trying online purchases to consoles!
wrong, opinion discarded
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>>334933929
>good luck
I thought that voice was saying "embark"
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>>334933875
jurassic park was flashy
street fighter was flashy
daytona was flashy
star wars racer was flashy
you can keep being a stubborn faggot and cherrypicking Asteroids level games but I can bury you under a mountain of arcade games that showed off what they could do with the technology
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>>334934074
You shouldn't have used the phrase 'open minded' it's a talking point leftists regularly use.
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>tfw I didn't buy a Wii U
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>>334934124
In SF0 you can set the gyro to only turn on when you press ZR. Doesn't sound forced to me
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>>334934032
>Mario Kart 8 subpar
>LITERALLY because "muh battle mode!"
best track design, music, visuals, item balance, and controls of the series. but yeah, totally subpar because there's no pointless modes that nobody actually cares about
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>>334933521
>I refuse to git gud the not review
lel
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>>334934205
>mfw i bought a WiiU, have been very happy with it, and have never given a fuck about StarFox so this game being good or bad makes no difference to me
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>>334934032
>Mario Kart 8
>Sparse in content
>When it has the most tracks in the history of Mario Kart

See ya shitpost senpai~!
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>>334933521
>Complains they're shit at the game.
>Implying you need to use the R-stick is in constant use, and not just for flips/boosts/brakes
>Wanting to use the Wii and Nunchuk for anything outside of Metroid and TP
>Complaining every instance the gamepad is used.

This is almost as bad as that time that he docked marks off Bayo for being too lewd despite having a suicide girls account.
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>>334933875

>Picks two garbage games that no one would consider a decent sample of arcade quality.
>Because these games looked terrible, arcade games were supposed to look terrible!
>Goes on to make an irrelevant point about SNK when SNK made the flashiest arcade games around.
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>>334931802

>people have literally being saying for a decade "GIMMIE STARFOX 64 2!"
>Nintendo finally does that
>"wow Nintendo, why isn't this a AAA cinematic experience, shame on you"

Blizzard really was right. People think they know what they want, but they don't. They really, really don't.
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>>334934205

>mfw i never bought nintendo shit and emulate the good games instead
Shame the wii u has nothing worth playing.

Oh well i might get a NX just to piss /v/ off
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>>334933875
This pretty much confirms the rumours the game was stuck quite some time in development hell over the past few months due to the controls being terrible.
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>>334932127
It's free if you buy a used Wii U at GameStop.

Power to the players.
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>>334929875
>>334929985

If anything this indicates Sakurai should have been the one to reboot Star Fox.
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oh look, it was a failure after all, even though i could see this coming from the e3 trailer.

i wonder how federation force is going to do?

maybe this is why they are disabling all comments on their videos and rating.

because everyone with a half functioning brain can plainly tell its fucking garbage.
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>>334934297

>that one delusional Nintoddler
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>>334934195
anon games use technology, having better graphics is something normal, arent you niggers always complaining how the grass in this game looks better than the other consoles grass?

same with Arcades, they had more technology so they made games look better simply because they could, its a business after all, but how about that Pacman, Asteroids, Frogger, Galaga, etc etc.

sure you can go on

>>334934376
you never played Yier Kung Fu? shit was really fun, Karate champ I didnt like much, too bad that you focus on the graphics instead of the fun anon.
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>>334934340
>When it has the most tracks in the history of Mario Kart*
*with paid DLC content.
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>>334934450
give proofs
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>>334930010
Mother 3 was Nintendo's Duke Nukem Forever.
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>>334928281
Someone screencap the fuck outta this.
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>>334933430
Nope, it likely had high input lag (which is entirely independent of framerate). Although I do believe most indies should be 60fps
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>>334934491
>that one jaded /v/cuck
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>>334931883
>say a recent Nintendo game that impressed people
>says a recent Nintendo game that impressed people
>BUT NOT THAT ONE
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>>334927365
DELETE THIS
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>>334934378
>want a sequel
>get a gimmick-laden rehash
>WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING?!
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>>334933521
>this is not a review

Then you're not doing your job. Either be professional or find another line of work.
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>>334934539
no, find the other half of your brain and do some independent constructive criticism.
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>>334933779
Why do people even care about Polygon reviews? It seems like a low quality site. Just check out this hot garbage.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/1/8687867/rock-band-4-preview
http://pastebin.com/LjYmzYZ7

>Look, sometimes in this job you gotta cover games you don't really give a stuff about. I played some Guitar Hero ten years ago and I thought it was kinda stupid. This is not because rock star sims are stupid. It's a perfectly valid fantasy. It's just not my fantasy.
Shut up and review the game.
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>>334934491
Do you believe the things you type?
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>>334934297
pretty much, let them rant all they want but it seems they need some handholding cause they dont want to use motion controls and feel insulted when the game tells them that it would be better if they used it. I mean, come on anon, you complain about games being the same then when they add a new feature you dismiss it and complain the game does nothing new. inb4 but muh gimmicks.
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>>334934524
Still the most tracks in MK history. What, you're suddenly going to say that content isn't content?
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>>334934297
>mfw i bought a WiiU, have been very happy with it, and have never given a fuck about Mario Tennis Ultra Smash so this game being good or bad makes no difference to me

>mfw i bought a WiiU, have been very happy with it, and have never given a fuck about Amiibo Festival so this game being good or bad makes no difference to me

>mfw i bought a WiiU, have been very happy with it, and have never given a fuck about Devil's Third so this game being good or bad makes no difference to me

>mfw i bought a WiiU, have been very happy with it, and have never given a fuck about Mario Party 10 so this game being good or bad makes no difference to me

How many times are you going to apologize for shit games?
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>>334934510

>you never played Yier Kung Fu? shit was really fun, Karate champ I didnt like much, too bad that you focus on the graphics instead of the fun anon.

While I was partially shitposting, it remains true that Yier Kung Fu is hardly representative of the arcade scene. You're the one arguing that arcade games were graphically similar to their home console equivalents -- no one is talking about gameplay here.
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>>334934737
Wow four games lol
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This game is literally what people have been asking for for the past 15 years
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>>334934201
That's your problem, not mine.
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>>334931558
Splatoon
Codename STEAM (bitch about the artstyle all you want, it makes a solid strategy game)
Mario Kart 8
Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
Mario and Luigi Paper Jam
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>>334934658
you can't just make a claim then not give proofs
but i guess you just did, proved me wrong
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>>334934340
>Most tracks
>Not MKWiimms
>248 tracks.
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Look at all these games said nobody ever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_U_software#Games
Is the Wii U the new dreamcast?

Even has the onscreen controller gimmick and killed prematurely and released early.
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>>334934664
Holy fuck that just pisses on gaming journalism's grave nigga
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>>334934510
>but how about that Pacman, Asteroids, Frogger, Galaga, etc etc.
Those looked better than the vast majority of games on home consoles at the time. I also can't believe you're telling me Galaga isn't flashy. They didn't have to throw in so many effects for each ship or attack. Things didn't even need to explode.
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>>334934032
>tfw I bought a wii for TP even though I had it on gamecube
>still haven't bought a wii u because no zelda
>mfw Nintendo's been selling the same game for 3 consecutive console generations
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>>334934641

His job is to generate ad revenue first (which he did successfully), inform you of the quality of a game second (which he did successfully), and assign a number to that quality last (the one job he failed to do).

Are you seriously bitter that the review didn't have a 0 at the end of it because the game was too bad to finish?
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>>334934510
>but how about that Pacman, Asteroids, Frogger, Galaga, etc etc.
What are you going on about. Those games looked as great as they could at the time. Just compare them to their home ports if you want to see what devs who didn't care about flashy graphics could have made.
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>>334934737
It's funny because it's very much true for all of those games. Do you find it surprising that someone would not be interested in those games? I'm not sure what your point is supposed to be.
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>>334934510
>but how about that Pacman, Asteroids, Frogger, Galaga
Pacman, Asteroids, Frogger, and Galaga sure looked a hell of a lot better than Pong and radar equipment dude
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>>334934879
learn to use google.

now fuck off, i dont spoon feed bitches.
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>>334934807
>Bad controls
>more gimmicks
>Stupidly short
>Everyone hates it
Oh yeah looks great anon.

Ironically /v/ only picks on the graphics and length when those are the least of the issues this game has.

What the fuck was nintendo thinking?

If they dont have a return to form with the nx like the ps4 they are fucked.
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>>334934917
>Wii U
>New Dreamcast
Don't insult the Dreamcast.
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>>334928281
High already, mate?
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>>334934697
Yes, because it's DLC. Shit you have to pay extra for because they want to take as much money from delusional children as possible is not content.
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>All-Range mode for the entire 64 world map
>once you get to a planet you can play as you would expect
>once you "beat" a planet level Great Fox deploys hyper gates so you can fast travel
>trigger unique events like in 64 with allies you meet ( they show you secret coordinates for levels or help you with secret routes on a planet level, etc;)

Basically just Nintendo not playing it safe and putting a modicum of effort into their franchises would be nice.
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>>334934561
How about you do it, fag.
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>>334935003
So what the fuck have you been playing since Nintendo has released nothing but shit this past year? Splatoon/MK8/Sm4sh can only last so long.
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>>334934575
>>334934672

>y-you c-cuck!

Everytime. Lol!
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>>334934510
>Pacman, Asteroids, Frogger, Galaga
The popular arcade games that became mainstream due to their addictive gameplay and better graphics?
The games consoles couldn't even port properly for years, resulting in mediocre imitations that contributed to the video game crash?
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>>334935115
The WiiU isn't the only system I own, anon. I have a PS4, a PC, a 3DS, as well as continuing to use my PS3 and Wii. If you want a list of games that I'm happy with on WiiU I can provide one.
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>>334931558
E3 2015 was really fucked.

Like, what the fuck were they thinking.

I think that E3 alone pretty much obliterated the hardcore Nintendo fanbase.

I hope the NX is good, but I'm not holding my breath.
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>>334934917
The Dreamcast had a shipload of good games though.

I bet the online play was better than Wii U too.
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>>334935049
The only gimmick is the controls and even then its not bad, star fox 64 was short with replayability just like this game, and who gives a shit if some reviewers who refuse to learn how to play the game think. Jesus man the internet has completely destroyed your individualism.
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>>334934737
Devil's Turd isn't as bad as it's made out to be, the tablet screen isn't used at all. Online is dead, and bits of the game is lacking, but I'd say it's better than the post Itagaki NGs
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>>334935057
>Kills a company
>Good console
n-no i love the games on the dreamcast but i cant get over it.

Ironically it has better graphics than any nintendo console even today and actually sold more in the short 2 years it was on the market

>>334935240
It was OG sega of course it had games
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>>334932320

Even being ok, nu-Banjo gets a max cap of 4 stars no matter what just out of principle.

I enjoyed MGS4 but even I know it wasn't 5/5.
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>>334935280
if i find a old wii u in a dumster or the emu works one day ill play this and ill make a thread.
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>>334934000
they're all here
http://www.canalplus.fr/c-humour/les-kassos/pid6737-les-episodes.html
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>>334935420
>paid $250 for a wii in 2007
>paid $20 for one last week

Never again /v/.
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>>334933521

>the same site that gave Bayo 2 a 7/10 because it triggered their reviewer.

No wonder they didn't bother to review SF0.
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>>334935625
Why? The Wii emulators are better than the actual console....
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>>334934986
An actual professional reviewer finishes what he starts. Siskel and Ebert didn't watch 1/4 of a movie then say "Well that's all we need because in our opinion everything sucksa dn the ending was bad, next movie please". If you can't be assed to do you job then find a job you can be assed to do.

>Are you seriously bitter that the review didn't have a 0 at the end of it because the game was too bad to finish?

He did nothing but whine and bitch about a control scheme that a chimpanzee can easily work because it wasn't "muh stick and buttons!" and piss and moan about everything that wasn't "fly in a straight line and shoot things!". If he's what people think is the epitome of professional video game journalism then the entire thing needs to be burned to the ground and rebuilt.
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