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It's here
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Okay
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See you in 3 hours when you've beat the game.
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>>334909087
no guard?
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>>334909283
Guard is a digital code iirc
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>>334909283
>>334909312
EU has to buy Guard seprately unless they buy the Special Edition.
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>>334909519
i thought it was like that everywhere.
i assume US only has a 60$ version while EU can buy the star fox only for 45€?
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>>334909087
...and it's shit.
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>>334909087

and it's a steaming pile of Buffalo shit
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>tfw just got my confirmation email that my copy was sent

feels good man, might end up getting it 1 day before release
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Jesus fuck this is hard to control. Might have to try this without gyro controls. Every other moment you're being forced to look into cockpit view.
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>>334910772
>Might have to try this without gyro controls
about that
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>>334910772
I really hope I can get used to the controls. I want this to be the next 64.
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>>334910803
Options:
>Always on
>Only on when firing
>No way to turn them off

FUCK
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>>334911187
If enough people complain they'll probably patch in an option to turn them off.
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Is anyone antsy that the review embargo is still up? Most ninty games lift their embargo weeks before release
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>>334911354
It's supposed to be lifted today.

I'm scared, anon
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>>334911187
>>Only on when firing
sounds like workable option, senpai

so you only need to aim when pulling the trigger
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How much does it cost? 60€?

If so, then I'll pass. I might pick it up if I can get it for 30€'
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>>334911513
You can get a standard version with no Guard for £30
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>first TPHD
>then Pokken
>got NSMBU selects yesterday
>now this is coming out in 2 days for UK

Fuck me it's one game after the other.
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I hope it's good. The art style looks like trash and with no online I doubt it's going to have replayability, but I believe in it.

>>334911856

Don't forget Yokai Watch for 3DS next week
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>>334911856
And they said Nintendo had nothing this year.
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>>334912415
Not interested, designs are too girly

>>334912453
Jesus fuck I wasn't prepared. I'm still making my way through TPHD let alone Pokken, Mario and in a few days Star Fox.
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Does it still look like a cheap N64 game?
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>>334910772
Dude just try again and learn.
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>>334911749
That's 40€

I'll wait and buy it used from Wallapop.
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>>334912415
>Yokai Watch
Why such a massive delay? Even here in Aus we got it in December
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>>334912838
Nah.
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>>334909087
>European
Opinion discarded.
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>>334912578
Pokken doesn't interest me. I've already played TP, don't care for the rehash. YW is literally for kids. SFZ doesn't seem worth the hefty price tag.

This is s shit year fampai, take off the fanboy googles.
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>>334913085
Eat shit, Euro trash.
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>>334912980

They couldn't get the anime on TV until April and they decided to delay release of the game to help advertise it.

I was going to import it from AUS but I wanted to be patient and wait for EU release. And hell maybe my one purchase will help boost sales :^)
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>>334909087
>tfw literally walking out of the store as I type this on my phone with the Day one edition on my hands
>tfw can't play it until friday
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>>334911131
You mean something that's rated highly only because of nostalgia?
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>>334913538
>European rhetoric
Yeah, I'm gonna wait until an American plays it.
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Picked it up on my lunchbreak. Won't get a chance to play until tomorrow though.
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>>334913085
>YW is literally for kids
yet it got poor reviews from people who couldn't beat it. People whose job is to play video games.
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>>334913085
Just sounds like you're a jaded cunt M8. I enjoy all sorts of vidya across many systems, sorry you can't do the same.
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>>334911856
I know that feel. I didn't expect TP to be that long (first time playing it), and I still haven't finished XbX or unlocked everything in Pokken. And there's a splatfest incoming.
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>>334910772
HOW ABOUT YOU GIT GUD???
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>>334914000
>it got poor reviews from people who couldn't beat it

Can't blame them, the game is so mind dumbingly boring it's basically impossible to beat sober
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>>334913072
>mad amerifat
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>>334910772
people that liked it say you eventually stop using the cockpit view to aim at every little thing.
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>>334914140
Source without the Mii heads? Google is giving me nothing.
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>>334914416
>trying to move the goal post from an actual aspect to the game to your personal snowflake feelings
Just sad really
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>>334911856

Yeah I picked up Pikmin 3 selects, Kirby Rainbow Curse and NES remix all new for pretty cheap and now starfox.

Wii U is gouging my wallet but I don't care because I enjoy video games.
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I got it too.

stupid stores. don't fucking put the shit on the shelves if you don't want people to buy it.
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>>334919152
Let me know how it is.
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Please dump it online so I can pirate it. Thanks.

Preferably use MEGA
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>>334919291
>mfw place of employment gets 10,000 dollar fine for breaking street date
and they still put a price tag on it and put it on the shelf.
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>>334919414
Who fines them for doing this? I've always wondered about that, especially considering it's usually mom and pop shops that break street date
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>>334909283
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>unskippable 15 minute tutorial followed by a campaign that starts iwht an unskippable 4 minute tutorial
thanks
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>>334919152

Meh, it's mostly Nintendo's fault for wanting to be special fucking snowflakes by releasing shit on a different day than every single other publisher.
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>>334920046
They actually force you to do the flying through the rings bit?

Christ. I mean, I was going to do it anyway, but forcing it is just weird.
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I still can't beleive they LITERALLY made Starfox 64.5

Who asked for this? Why not make a new fucking game?
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>>334909519
Fuck, that's some gay-ass bullshit
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>>334920318
I wish they made Star Fox 64.5. That's literally what I wanted.

This isn't that but it might be OK.
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>>334920318
People have literally been asking them to go back to basics for YEARS.
After Adventure, Assault, and Command, all anyone wanted was another game like 64.
And that's exactly what they did. Fuck you.
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>>334913005

Meanwhile on PS4...
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>>334920568
>sub 30fps

How you want that senpai?
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>>334920687

Yet it STILL manages to have better starfox gameplay than starfox itself
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>>334920568
>30 fps
lmaoing @ ur life
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past the first level

The way the Arwing handles feels loose and sloppy, it's got really slippery handling compared to 64, though it's a step up from Assault which had really slow and sluggish vehicle control.

If you play with the "Motion Controls on While using ZR" option it controls almost like traditional Starfox. Problem is they already have annoying gimmick enemies you have to use the shitty lock-on view to fight.

all the voices sound wrong. Peppy sounds awful, Slippy sounds too much like a girl compared to 64, and Falco lacks the slight Brooklyn-ish accent and just sounds like a white guy. Wolf isn't British again and doesn't even have the Southern accent from Assault/Brawl. Bill talks like a generic military sergeant and not a surfer dude.
Shit like this really fucks with my nostalgia for 64, I hated it in Assault and I hate it now.

Graphics look fine. it's got a nice clean look like W101 had.
music is just decent. If it's not a remix of an old iconic track it's bland and forgettable.

overall game is shit and wasn't worth breaking street date.
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>>334920739
And yet here you are shitposting in a starfox thread instead of playing it. Says a lot.
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>>334920739
>SUB 30fps
>being a system wars faggot

Full fucking kek.
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>>334912838
Gamecube
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>>334920739
>I haven't played it but it's better!!! Sony is always better!!!
Take that dick out of your mouth.
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>>334920824

>Finish one level.
>"It's shit."

IGN reviewer pls go
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>>334920824
>2018 - 2
>retards bitchin bout motion controls
Just die.
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>>334920318
>Who asked for this?
Everyone.
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>>334921097
The game left an incredibly bad first impression with its sloppy controls and failure to capture the characters people loved from 64.
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>>334920824
Fuck sake.

Who in Nintendo thought we wanted super srs voices and not the fun camp ones in 64?
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>>334921108
Motion controls are generally shitty. They could work for a rail shooter but the implementation in this game concerns me. I'll see how it shakes out this weekend but the chances of this game reviewing well are very low.
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>>334920453

Another game LIKE 64 not literally 64.5
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>>334920318

Yeah... they could have them go on adventures on foot, explore the world outside of the arwing. Could be called star fox adventures or something. I bet people would lose their shit over that.
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>>334921235
This is like-64-but-not-identical you brain-dead mongoloid.
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>>334920824
>past the first level
>mentions Wolf and Bill
b8
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>>334911856
>hd rehash
>not an actual fighter
>rehash
>remake

Oh boy, Nintendo fans are drowning in games.
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>got both this and Twilight Princess HD before street date
>hated both games

thanks

>>334921441
Bill is in the first level.
Wolf was heavily featured in the trailers.
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@334921485
Go peddle your wares elsewhere candyass.
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>>334921494
Are you sure that's Bill and not a generic dog soldier?
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>>334921561
Bill's in the second level. We've seen that much already.
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>>334921552
>@
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>>334921561
>>334921494
Completed the game, that is a generic soldier in the first level, you don't see Bill until just after Zoness
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@334921673
No (You)'s for you.
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>>334921485
>complains about rehash
>his goty is dark soul 3 or uncharted 4
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>>334919528
Underrated post
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>>334909212
kek
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>>334921201
>Who in Nintendo thought we wanted super srs voices and not the fun camp ones in 64?

But the voices are goofy and campy in this game. Leon goes all theatrical with his voice, Pigma and Andrew ham it up, and so on.
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I like Krystal
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>plays first level
>already hates the game
Gamers in current year, everyone
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>>334921748
>his goty is dark soul 3 or uncharted 4
I'll amuse you and pretend i am a retarded sonygger and still BTFO you.
>Those are sequels and actual new content.
>Even if those were rehashes, they still are goty rehashes. Better than nintendo's mediocre rehashes.
I will buy star fox because nostalgia, but admitting nintendo has a strong game lineup this is beyond autistic.
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>>334922191
>someone dislike gyro controls
>can't turn them off
>surprised when someone that plays only one level hates the game
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>>334920318

>Who asked for this

Almost everyone who likes Star Fox
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>>334922348
>buying a game with an advertised control scheme that you hate
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One hour until real reviews come in, right?
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>>334921494

>Buying TP HD if you didn't know you liked it

The game has been out for almost ten years you retard, and not for $60

Do you just buy whatever Nintendo tells you to?
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>>334922631
Never said Nintendrones were smart
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>>334922667
Who gives a fuck. They will be mediocre and /v/ will make dozen of threads about how the game is shit because muh reviews.

Actually, thanks for telling me. I'm going away from /v/ for the next days.
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>>334922759
hated it on Gamecube

honestly I just bought it because it's incredibly easy to own the Wii U's whole library
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>>334922956
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>>334922281
>>Those are sequels and actual new content.
wow you just DON'T make that shit up.
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this is gyro only? hahaha

>ONLY gyro controls
>on a controller literally bigger than xbox

christ help you nintenfags
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>>334923136
Stale meymey is stale. It just shows you never even tried the pad.
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This game just looks so bland and ugly. It looks like a part of a mini-game collection or something.
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no....there's an option to turn off gyro right? Or they're patching one in???
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>>334923470
You can toggle an option to have it on only when holding ZR, which means you can have the game control MOSTLY like OG Starfox.

however for certain enemies and (so far) all the bosses, you have to use the lockon view and the gyro to win.
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>>334923257
i tried it with splatoon and its disgusting to aim with.

I used it for xenoblade and it's fucking uncomfortable for longer sessions of play

just face it, it's a piece of shit controller with 0 battery life
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>>334921552
>being this new
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>>334922926
What's the matter nintendrone
Can't handle the truth?
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>>334911856
lost reavers looks pretty good
coming out april 28

at least its for free
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>>334920801
how long is this hallway again?
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Reminder to ignore motion controls docking points in reviews. It's something to note, not despise a game over.
I'm going to be pissed if the reviewers complain about what this game isn't.
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>>334923637
The trailer showed he was back.
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>>334923750
Beta is out right now. It's alright, although I've heard it gets better at level 15. Only takes about two hours to get that far though.
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>>334923637
>This game is dedicated to our wingman who fell in battle
;_;7
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>>334923882
If the control scheme makes the game less fun to play then it's a point worth noting.

I'm surprised there's this many people trying to defend a questionable design choice when you haven't even played it yet.
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>>334911856
>only 4 games
>one game after the other
Is this how it feels having no games?
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>>334923637
who is voicing him in english?
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>>334923741
I can handle your mom's fat ass pretty well, if you know what I mean
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>>334923882
If the controls make the game worse (and they do) then how is it bad to dock points for it?

I-IT WAS PURPOSEFULLY DESIGNED TO BE SHIT TO PLAY!
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>>334923637
I was about to ask if it was another fake out boss until James showed up
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>>334924023
Kid Icarus Uprising and its reviews taught me not to listen to control complains. If I listened to reviews, I'd have missed an amazing game.
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>>334924236
KI:U is a great game hampered by shit controls. Valid complaints.

I still play it now and again despite the fact it hurts my hands.
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it actually is a good game or just hype and fanservice?
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>>334924118
Well me mum said your dick was too small :^)
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>>334924236
I bought it and couldn't stand more than 4 hours due to the controls.

several of the reviews came from the perspective of people who wanted to enjoy the game but couldn't because the awful (let's not pretend they're not) controls.

Even fucking Mark from Classic Game Room hated it, and his criteria for liking a game is that it's playable.
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>>334920568

> implying that's not a cutscene
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>>334924339
Kid Icarus Uprising is a good game also for its controls. It's something easy to get used to and the best possible way to control a game like that on a handheld.
The complaints were absolutely embarassing to read at. Not saying the controls are easy to learn but they are far from being bad.
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>>334924236
to be fair, the controls really take some getting used to and it really isn't for lefties
and reviewers complimented the content, characters, replay value, and even the graphics even with lower scores overall
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>>334924623
Opinions. KI:U would have been better on literally any other system, especially the Wii.

A conventional control scheme would have been great. Wiimote controls would have been ideal.
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>>334923637
>This game is dedicated to our wingman who fell in battle.
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>>334924623
>It's something easy to get used to
>Not saying the controls are easy to learn
Make up your mind, Pitstain.
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>>334909087

Does it at least have online leaderboards? That's the one online feature that Starfox could really benefit from, and it really wouldn't make sense NOT to have it.
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>>334925234
Only Guard has online anything.
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>>334922956

Do you also buy garbage tier shovelware like carnival games or what the fuck ever?
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>>334919063
>IT LOOKS LIKE AN ORIGINAL WII GAME
HOLY SHIT MY SIDES
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>>334923750

It's shit, m8
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>>334924339

This is the problem. The controls are actually good as fuck, they don't get between the player and the game. But people are casual babies who don't want to play something unusual so they get butthurt and blame the controls instead of themselves

These people probabl also hate the controls of Gun Valkyrie and Splatoon
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>>334925436
hehehahahoho no it doesn't
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>>334925703
>The controls are actually good as fuck
anon you're being biased
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>>334923637
>Andross is still a giant monkey head

ehhhhhhhh. Maybe he's piloting it this time
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>>334925774

I'm not. What would you have preferred? Twin sticks? Fuck off, I like being able to actually hit shit without homing.
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>>334925703
Sorry man, but it just doesn't work for everyone. If the vast majority of players don't like the controls then they're not a good control scheme, even if you like them. Splatoon works great with normal twin stick controls.
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>>334923637

>This game is dedicated to our wingman who fell in battle.
>we make a shitty game for out old boss

Actually fit, shit for the shit
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Dump the loadiine files so I can play
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>>334925861
>What would you have preferred? Twin sticks?
no because that wouldn't be as accurate
the controls can be worked around, but they are not great
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>>334925703
>gun valkyrie

Ive always wanted to try that game, its on the back of the booklet of panzer dragoon, shows a good anime ass and is made by smilebit. all good
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>>334925803
whats wrong with it?

would like to know how he looked like before being imprisoned on venom though
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>>334925908

>Splatoon works great with normal twin stick controls

Opinion fucking dicarded

Have fun with that over A rank unless you play Carbon Roller or some shit

Do you also think twin stick is better than KB+M? Does precision matter to you at all?
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>>334925997
Dude just buy the game.
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>>334926052
no
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>>334925803
He becomes a robot head once you enter his boss arena
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>>334926038
>Have fun with that over A rank unless you play Carbon Roller or some shit
>thinking the average Splatoon player is an autistic tourneyfag that cares about rank
The average Splatoon player is a child having fun painting shit, spergo.
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>>334926024

It has whackass controls and mechanics but it's fun as hell when you git gud
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>>334923637
I'm still convinced that this is a fake.
Why does Andross become a robot when you fight him?
You can still get MISSION ACCOMPLISHED in 64 when you beat dummy Andross
The uploader even admitted he hasn't done all of the alternate paths.
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>>334926108
Why not? You want to play the game, the only reasonable option is to purchase what you want to play.
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>>334926119

So what you're saying is that you're shit and you don't mind being shit?

Why would I listen to you, then?
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>>334926162
no
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>>334910772
>Those graphics
HAHAH.AHA
HAH.A.H..AHA
HAH..AHAHA
HAHA.H.AHA
HA.HA.HAHA
HA.HA..H.AHA
HAHA.H.AHA
HAHA.HAHA
HA.H.AH.A..HA

HOLY SHIT YOU FUCKING IDIOTS, DON'T BUY THAT CRAP
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>>334926121
In the first stage where there are 2 different bosses you can get Mission Accomplished
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>>334926038
Of course twin sticks doesn't compare to KB+M. Gyro is simply not a good replacement for KB+M.

Using a Wiimote as a simple pointer is the closest I've seen on consoles and even that can be janky at times (Metroid Prime 3 + the gamecube ports). It works well for simple rail shooters though, like Sin and Punishment.
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>>334926241
So your reasoning is no?
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>>334926282
I think wii mote, nunchuck should have been an option aswell, but oh well what are you gonna do?
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>>334926346
yes
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>>334926191
I'm not even the guy who mentioned twin sticks. Acting like an elitist over Splatoon makes you look stupid.
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>>334926248
I always see faggots bitch about graphics but whenever someone asks why respond it the usual "Its a gamecube game" shitpost. No one ever states what's actually wrong. The game looks fine, not amazing but fine.

Jesus graphicsfags are one of the main factors that are killing games.
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>>334926121
>Why does Andross become a robot when you fight him?
His snes appearance maybe, not to mention the fight itself is really underwhelming.
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>>334926038
>rank
lol who the fuck cares about rank in splatoon
do you watch e-sports and shit too
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>>334926248
I rather have silky smooth 60fps than good graphics desu senpai
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>>334926282

Gyro is a thousand times better than twin sticks. Anypne who's played Splatoon for a decent amount of time can tell you this. Twin sticks is fin if you don't care about playing at a decent level, but not comparable in percision compared to the gyro. You have to learn something different, but you're greaty rewarded for it. Gyro is objectively better; this is evidenced by the fact that no one who succeeds in the game's multiplayer uses the twin stick controls, because they cannot carry you very far.

If you want to stick with them, that's fine. Enjoy yourself. But you're limting yourself severly. It's the exact same argument as twin sticks vs. KB+M, and taking a different side when it's gyro or touch is just hypocrisy.
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>>334926537
you are still getting neither of those in Zero senpai
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>>334924076
Jaz Adams, same guy who voiced him, Peppy, Wolf, Pigma, General Pepper, and Bill in 3D
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>>334926480
I mean, he became a robot-thing in the easy path of SF64.

Then you had SO ANDROSS, YOU SHOW YOUR TRUE FORM on the other path.
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>>334919528
I thought of Machamp, but sasuga anon
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>>334926537
I know you're being smug in reply to shitposting, but Zero dips to 40 in places like Sector Alpha.
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>>334926448
The game looks sub-par yet it still can't maintain 60 FPS
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>Giant Bomb
>4/10
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>Splatfags defending the shit out of gyro upon it getting shat on, again

This is like the 10th or so thread you've done this
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>>334926673
i miss rick may, he was such a good voice for him
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>>334926038
>>334926620
>majority play with sticks or just for fun
>OPINION DISCARDED HAVE FUN BEING SHIT
>but the sticks work fine
>YEAH WELL HAVE FUN BEING SHIT
like, fuck, autismo. the original point was that the sticks work fine. which they do. gyro is better but the sticks work fine. jesus. don't get your clan in here.
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>>334926816
Not our fault that Gyro aiming is actually good
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>2/5 from Giant Bomb
LOL
O
L
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>>334926812

Let the shitposting begin!
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>>334926816

First one for me in months

Probably because it's objectively better thn twin sticks ad I'm sick of casual faggots who can't bother to learn something different

I cannot honesty beliee these faggot are defending traditional console FPS controls as if they haven't been a joke for decades.
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>>334926686
It's the reverse in Zero it seems, a giant metallic disappointment.
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>2/5
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>>334926816
>Splatfag throws a fit over another control scheme available for people to use
FTFY
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>>334926620
I feel like you and I have had this conversation before.

I get it. You like gyro controls. I don't like them. I don't like touch screens either. If I'm playing on a console I don't want to fuck about with motion controls or any other gimmick. I just want to use a standard controller and play the game like any other game.
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>>334926954

The problem is that they don't work fine, thy work like shit, and you an tell because you get wrecked for using them.
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>>334927102
Never happened to me. Probably because it's a game for children.
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>>334911354
Not really, I can already see them now

>2hard, I couldn't beat a simple part
>6-7/10
>/v/ shitpost with muh scores
It'll be W101 all over again.
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>>334927073

Okay, sure. Play with whatever you want, and have fun with it, and don't let me stop you. But I'm not talking about personal preference, I'm talking about gyro controls being objectively better controls than twin sticks.
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>>334927051
And that's from Dan at Giant Bomb...the biggest Nintendo apologist they have on staff.

This is a colossal failure. RIP Nintendo.
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>>334927102
>get wrecked
If you go up against Japanese adults, maybe. Majority of players are kids walking off platforms.
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>>334926812

> shits on the game

> Not because it's bad

> But because he decided he doesn't like the Starfox formula anymore

WEW
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I wish mods would finally ban shitposters on sight

Why dont these people shitpost in Dark Souls threads?
The fanbase there is more autistic, easier to bait and overall cancer.
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>>334927195
>2hard, I couldn't beat a simple part
Considering the final boss fight, it might be the exact opposite.
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>>334927284
Nobody likes the Star Fox formula anymore
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>>334927182

Probably because you don't play at higher ranks

Or you use carbon roller
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>>334911187
They got to patch that shit due to complaints.
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>>334927334

Says you fag
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>>334927102
I love how you're making Splatoon out to be a super hardcore competitive thing. It's a kids game with some 20somethings thrown in. The only time winning matters is during splatfests and that's just so you can hear your favorite squid cousin talk shit.
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>>334927235
Better for you. And that's fine.
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>>334927363
Then where are the 9s and 10s from mainstream reviewers?
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>>334927418

> says the C rank
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>>334927418
splatoon takes more skill than your average FPS so

yeah
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>>334927248

You're missing the point. I'm talking about gyro not being bad controls. Of course worse controls will be fine when the demand is lower, I'm talking about the times when there's a recognizable difference between them. When you're getting mobbed by Japs.
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>>334927469

> reviewers
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>>334927502
>console TPS aimed at children
>skill

You guys are weird.
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>>334924236

Reviewer are the kind of people unable to complete the first fucking puzzle of W101.

These niggas are 2 digit clubbies, no questions
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>>334927492
>being so anablasted you can only blurt out rank-related insults to boost your e-peen
>>334927502
Anon, the average cawadoody FPS is frequented by children, but Splatoon was literally made for children.
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>>334927576
it's funny because even if you are mostly right, you can say that almost about any console FPS
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And it's trash. Kekaronis.
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>>334927418

I don't give a fuck how competitive the game is, I'm not defending it here. I'm talking about the controls, and top-rank Splatoon is the most demanding situation for gyro controls, where they are clearly and demonstratably better than twin sticks.
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>>334927683
True enough. You won't hear me argue that one.
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>>334914921
japanese girls in golden thongs
i can tell because only they do the fucking peace sign thing while getting loads blown in their faces
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>>334927737
[Shitposting Intensifies]
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>>334927334
I love on rails shooters. Fuck you.
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>>334927435

No, objectively better for the game. Your performance cieling is noticeably hogher with gyro.
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>>334927752
>and top-rank Splatoon is the most demanding situation for gyro controls, where they are clearly and demonstratably better than twin sticks.
Right, meaning twin stick works fine for everything else.
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>>334927841
Son, I won't say it again.
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>>334927835
You're not anyone then
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>>334927905

I hope not, I'd hate to have to read such retardation twice.
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difficulty so hard
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>>334922281
Whom are you quoting?
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>>334927051
that review actually reminds me why arcade games are dead outside indie games, no one would pay for ar AAA arcade game, because a game that last 3 hours it's a rip-off even if it's the kind of game that if had more lenght would be a pain in the ass because arcade games aren't made to have 10 hour playthroughs.
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Fox is pretty much Nintendo's Sonic, isn't he?
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>>334927859

Sure. Objectively worse, though. Even in any less demanding situation you limit yourself by using twin sticks.
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Krystal is best
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>>334928148
I don't think we'll get another one like it.
No-one seems to be complaining about graphics in the reviews.
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>>334928279
>Sure.
Well there you go.
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>>334928148
Yes. We even had sexual furryshit with Stairfax Temperatures, so yes.

I'd argue he's even worse.
>only had three good games
>one of them was cancelled
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>>334927569

I fucking knew you'd defend this upon it getting bad reviews. Even an anon and many others speculated this months ahead of time.

>Zero turns out to be shit
>64 confirmed to being shit the entire time
>Series overall being mediocre
>The sequels did nothing wrong as 64fags think
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>>334928516

So we're in agreement, then? Gyro controls are good, and you can get away with not using them because you don't mind being bad?
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Just beat all the levels.

-Yes, Braindross is in. It's fucking gross looking (in a good way)
-If you take the time to GIT GUDthe gyro controls are actually pretty good.
-You only need to use the gamepad view in a few enemies, such as the spiders on corneria (even then you can do it without if you git gud)
-The voice acting is the hammy 64-ness you've been waiting for. Falco isn't BAHSTON tho, which sucks ass
-the one mandatory gyrowing level is lame. still better then aquas
-Musics good, but nothing super exceptional.
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>>334928682

>"professional" reviews
>good or bad, for any game on any console
>Not useless shit

Please leave /v/

Not even that guy
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>>334928698
I never even said gyro controls were bad. As far as I can tell, you guys were arguing about twin sticks. The sticks work, regardless of which you prefer.
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>Star Fox Zero’s larger issue is that even though the format and gameplay are so similar to Star Fox 64, it feels like the time for this type of game has come and gone. If this had been released for the GameCube instead of Star Fox Adventures, I assume that it would have been almost universally praised by fans of the series. Virtually every element of the 64 entry is intact here. The campaign is largely Arwing-focused and features branching paths and secret exits until the final confrontation with Andross. Completionists can return to levels to collect all of the medals and try to beat their best kill score. Voice actors for the entire team return, and the dialogue features plenty of callbacks for nostalgic fans.

All of this would have been welcome in the early 2000s, but the years of disappointing follow-ups and the overall progression of industry standards leads to Star Fox Zero having the impact of an HD rerelease rather than a full sequel. Being able to beat the game in 2-3 hours doesn't help, no matter how many branching paths or lackluster challenge missions are included. Even the moment-to-moment action doesn't have anywhere near the impact that it had almost two decades ago, as this limited style of gameplay feels dated in 2016. Nintendo finally released the Star Fox game that I thought I wanted, but it leaves me wondering what place Fox McCloud has in today’s gaming landscape.

>this is what anons are shitposting with
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>>334928842

I could beat lots of game by slapping my dick om the controller if I tried enough, but I wouldn't say that dick-slapping "works fine".
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>>334928790
>Different path/final boss confirmed

I FUCKING CALLED IT
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>>334928814
Anon pls. You're the type of faggot who would freak the fuck out and show Metacritic reviews if a Mario or Zelda game you like was bagged on.
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>>334929002
I'm not sure why you're being such a passive aggressive douche, especially after making the dumb assumption that I was criticizing gyro controls.
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>>334928814

>Damage control

Proving my point entirely
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>>334929128
He's done this in other SF threads. It's always the same guy with the gyro hard on.
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>>334929041
>I FUCKING CALLED IT
Good job! You called something Miyamoto and the trailers literally confirmed.
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>>334928931
Nintendo waited too long, everybody has moved on
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>>334929119

No, I'm not retarded enough to suck Metacritic's dick like that

Try a site like GameFAQs and take your review shilling off my fucking board
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>>334928931
>tfw Rogue Squadron was better than any Fox game ever, a whole decade and a half ago
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>>334929074

No! Hit the brake!

I CAN'T STOP ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>Zero's looking to be a mixed bag

It still looks like something I have to play but man, I was really hoping the controls and gyrowing segments wouldn't drag it down so hard.
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>>334928931
They shouldn't have released a game like this in 20-fucking-16. Nintendo has no one to blame but themselves for this trash. The next SF game should be a tps similar to Assault, but with better Arwing segments.
>>
Gonna be honest here. This game did look like they were just phoning it in, like with most of the Wii U's recent games. I just hope to god it's because they're saving all the good shit for the NX and not because they have literally nothing.
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>>334929293
I didn't think I'd have to use this...
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>>334929128

Because twin stick is sht, it's always been shit, and people were admitting it's shit for years until gyro and touch and motion came along and all of a sudden twin stick thought it had a place. But people don't want to learn anything new and it keeps console FPS from fucking going anywhere and I'm mad as hell about it

>>334929201

I argued for Gyro in one SF thread months ago, but otherwise it's some other guy. I'm glad there's someone else, though.
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>>334929367
>Listening to reviewers
>About Nintendo games

W101 is hovering around 75. That's how fuckign stupid reviews are.
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>>334928931
So basically the game does nothing really new or interesting just giving us 64 again, which now is no longer impressive

Can the splatoon devs but put in charge of everything now? The old guard has run it's course
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>>334929643
I know, /v/ sucks platinum's cock so much, you think they'd come to the conclusion reviewers are shit. But it's a nintendo game, so the reviewers must be right.
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>>334929367

The controls are fine if you git gud
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>>334929468
>average person played games with sticks just fine
>people jump back to something they got used to once something too different shows up
What a surprise. You're being mad over a cycle. Stop being such a drama queen.
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>>334928931
What the fuck is this shit.
I mean, the game getting in the 60's / 70's due to being disappointed is one thing. To give a score that low due to it not being what you wanted is another entirely.
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>>334929643

>I-It's not shit!
>W-W101 is a good game!

I cannot blame Platinum but instead EAD and Miyamoto, but you cant seriously act like Zero is good if everyone is saying it's fucking garbage.
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>>334929834

Nobody is saying its garbage
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>>334929468
>Because twin stick is sht
Been around for years and people got accustomed to it. Still used to this day. Regardless of your personal vendetta against it, it works.
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>>334929643
Excuse me? Is this coming from the same fanbase who think an 80 is a bad score?
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>>334928790
>Zoness used to be the one of the best stages, no it's the worst.
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>>334929834
Why yes you can

It's called having your own opinion.

Argumento ad Popullum on fucking /v/ of all places speaks volume on your (lack of) brain
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>>334929378
Or just not make one at all. Seriously. F-Zero is a better investment. It's a subgenre of games that's dead as fuck. A Ratchet & Clank game already came out, and you can bet your ass a Sly Cooper game will before Wipeout. Also, Fast Racing Neo is all we have resembling F-Zero, which is ironically on the Wii U. So what the fuck are they thinking?

F-Zero is so much more flexible thanks to Smash. Like nigga, F-Zero Tekken? It would work out so well. Star Fox is obsolete, pointless, and fucking homosexual. It has to die.
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>>334929935
It's from the people that played it and put it on their GOTYAY list.
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>>334928931
>Industry standards
>Call of Duty and it's ilk halve literally short as fuck campaigns and focus on bland copy paste multiplayer
>Somehow Star Fox with a high replay value campaign is below industry standard

This is why I can't trust reviews. They cry about muh industry standards when there isn't really an industry standard besides money.

Let's compare this to Destiny, even. The game has a 500 million dollar budget for a planned 3 game series. The first can have its campaign beaten in less than a few hours, and then the game becomes grinding for better gear and repeatable raids. It was considered by reviewers to be an amazing game and panned by actual players for being fucking boring shit. Is this an industry standard?

Can we really compare what reviewers see as an amazing game to what they see as worthless trash on the same levels? To me the review honestly reads like the guy just wanted an open world adventure game and was sad that Star Fox was doing Star Fox. It's like wanting a Metroid Prime game to be a tactical rpg and docking it's score because you're in first person.
>>
This is what happens when you don't put krystal in the game. you would have sold a bit more copies maybe.

As for 0, its probably comfy. But man they really need to stop with the repetitive 64 stuff, it'll get old very quick, but miya is far up his ass so we're stuck with this.
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>>334929935
80 is a bad score. Just because you like eating shit doesn't mean everyone else does.
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>>334929981
Man that's weird because last time I checked I swear nintendorks said that all other systems suck because most of their games doesn't have titles that are 85+ on MC
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>>334929821
They gave it a low score for pretty much being a traditional Star Fox game length and content wise
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>>334928931

I understand what he means but holy fuck, a 4/10? To me that sounds like a broken game.
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>>334930215
So SF0 is an awful game then?
>>
>Zero is getting low scores for being short and looking outdated
>not the controls
That's kind of funny.
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>>334930171
>>Call of Duty and it's ilk halve literally short as fuck campaigns and focus on bland copy paste multiplayer
>>Somehow Star Fox with a high replay value campaign is below industry standard
You answered your own question, CoD has multiplayer which is another whole feature that people like. It also doesn't have shitty gyro controls

>, and then the game becomes grinding for better gear and repeatable raids.
Again, answered your own question. People enjoy the grind for loot
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>>334929796

You're fucking right I'm a mad drama queen

But it's so fucking frustrating that we got a better option and people try to act like it's worse because they're not comfortable with it, which discourages companies from including control schemes like that and we have to go back to traditional super-clunky console FPS aiming

Things might get better with the M+KB attachment for the PS4, but who knows how much support that will actually get
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>>334930221
They do suck. If a game can't get at least an 86 or higher, it's shit end of discussion. A console is only as good, or bad, as it's games.
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>>334930171
>Americans review:
6 to 5,shit game
>Latino reviews
8 to 9, best star fox ever
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>>334930171
Cowadoody is far from my favorite game, anon, but have you ever stopped to think why they sell a lot and get good reviews (even if they're at their lowest point of quality since Black Ops 1)?

Because the multiplayer is fun.

You can literally say the same thing about CSGO and every faggot MOBA ever, but that's literally the point.

This game doesn't have online multiplayer, the gyro controls are unconventional as fuck, and it's only 4 hours long? Why the fuck are you surprised it has lower than 7 reviews all across the board? It's the same game as 64 with shittier graphics than Assault that could have been so much better if the campaign was at least twice as long and ditched Miyamoto's meme idea of using gyro controls.

This is why Nintendo is degrading into shit. It's getting been worse now with the dawn of VR. It's embarrassing and sad.
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>>334930327
Yes? That was evident from the e3 trailer.
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>>334928931
>today's gaming landscape
Yes SFZ should have been an emotional gripping cinematic with little gameplay. Fuck off with that horseshit.
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>>334930215
>80 is a bad score
This guy doesn't even play video games.
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>>334930589
So this game is bad?

Also is Splatoon a bad game I mean it only has a 81 on MC
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>>334930720
I do, but only good ones.
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>>334930752
Yes, SF0 and Splatoon are trash. Can you sonyggers not read or something?
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>>334930494
Let's think about it logically, friend.

If your userbase doesn't like the control scheme and they perform better with the inferior choice, obviously they'll stick with the inferior choice. You might like the superior choice because you can utilize it, but you are not the majority.

Would it be great if there was a console equivalent to mouse and keyboard controls? Sure. I think I've even seen a peripheral that's supposed to convert mouse and keyboard input into something the console will understand.

But for something like a single player rail shooter? I just don't care.
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>>334920568
>less planets than the original
>shorter than the original
>Shittier than the original

Meanwhile SF0 has more than the original. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A REMAKE SHOULD BE BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL HOW FUCKING STRANGE
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>>334930783
>thinking subjective scores matter
>when you can play the game yourself and form your own opinion
Correction: you play games that "game journalists" say are good.
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>>334930672
Not him but the final game looks a lot better compared to what they showed off at E3 last year. The delay did help.
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>>334930456
But again, those are almost the same shtick.

>Grinding for loot
>Somehow better than replaying for better scores and alternate paths

I don't understand the logic. Both base games could have the same play time and the same replay for reward mechanic, yet Star Fox is docked for being "outdated" just because it's not the latest installment of a multi million funded and advertised Activision game.

Destiny's Taken King expansion was ranked as game of the month for several outlets. A fucking expansion, who's campaign is less than an hour mind you, gained this. Is this industry standard?
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>>334930984
>If your userbase doesn't like the control scheme and they perform better with the inferior choice, obviously they'll stick with the inferior choice.
But is that because they DO perform better with the inferior choice, or they refuse to try and learn the superior format?
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>>334931023
Journalists have saved me plenty of money, so in that regard they have my thanks.
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>>334909087
People just don't want this type of game anymore. Nintendo didn't bother creating anything new and they're getting shellacked in the reviews for it.

a 2-3 hour game simple isn't acceptable in 2016.
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>>334931117
Stop making false equivalences

>Grinding for loot
You get something for and are doing with friends. Skinner boxes work to keep people's attention and people like multiplayer

>Somehow better than replaying for better scores and alternate paths
You don't earn anything worthwhile and just play a bad looking version of an old 64 stage on your own.
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>>334930863
But after all the hype surrounding them i thought they were good

Does that mean XCX is a bad game as well?
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>>334931117
Multiplayer is a big factor
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>>334931347
IT'S [CURRENT YEAR] PEOPLE, LIKE, COME ON!
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>>334930668
Is multiplayer that big of a thing for you? Is multiplayer some almighty god tier winning token that if you include it in the shitiest game, it's still a redeemable upper 90% scoring game?

Is this really how the "industry" works these days? Is this how even /v/ is these days?

There used to be a time when multiplayer was a fun side romp but ultimately the game's deciding factor was how the single player was fleshed out.
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>>334931347
That's not what the reviews are criticizing though.

except giantbomb but who gives a shit about them.
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>>334913005
Nice bullshot
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>>334931127
Irrelevant. You can't force a customer to do something they don't want to do. In fact, more often then not you have to coax them into learning it with free shit. Think about the early days of the mouse and games that came with Windows as a comparison.

Back when I first played Doom I didn't use a mouse. The whole idea was alien to me. It takes years to get acclimated to new control schemes.
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>>334930984

I don't give a shit what's logical. I know why it's happening, but I'm still mad about it. Splatoon and KI:U control great but I'll never see those controls in other games.
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>>334931127
It requires workarounds and sacrifices people might not want to put up with. Tons of people game on PC without M&K even if it's superior because they don't like how you sit and play the game. Is that wrong? I don't think so.
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>>334931231
It's true! You've saved plenty of money on all those good video games you don't have thanks to them!
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>>334931127
>or they refuse to try and learn the superior format
Many times the "superior" method isn't right for them and they are more used to other ones

For example arcade sticks are general seen as better for fighting games, but a huge amount prefer pad and do much better on them beating stick players.
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>>334931480
I realize that's a big meme, but it's perfectly fine to call out something for not updating.

It's a shame, though, that when you do this for basically any Nintendo game the response is HAHA DARREN OLIVER MEME, CURRENT YEAR!
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>>334931510
I suppose that is exactly it. People are too set in their ways.
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>>334931483
Multiplayer provides interaction with others and allows people to compete with friends, it's a big draw for every game because it provides a social experience making a game worth replaying
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>>334931591
That's why piracy exists in case you're not sure if it's worth buying or not desu senpai
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>>334931231

Leave /v/
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>>334929378
they're never making another Star Fox if this flops
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>>334931631
But that's the thing, Miyamoto really wasn't planning on making a star fox game with the star fox 64 formula in the first place. They changed plans after receiving feedback from people wanting a game like star fox 64
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What the actual fuck at those graphics though. I never had anything against nintendo and actually owned a wii up until like 8 months ago, but that is laughable. It's literally gamecube graphics with somewhat shinier textures.

And it's not like they can't do it, 3Dworld was gorgeous
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>>334931663
So because it's popular, it's good, right?

Doesn't matter if the gameplay is shallow and uninspired, I got to play with my friends and grind my prestige level up another notch and unlock a new ugly skin for my generic gun, so I can support this game and will buy all the sequels!
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>>334931460
I'll let you in on a secret of the industry.

''Journalist'' like multiplayer because they doN,t have to play it.

They start the game, check the multiplayer screen, MAYBE try 1 game then check a box saying yup, there's a multiplayer. Takes them a few minutes and it's easy.

BUT, if you game is mostly singleplayer, AND demands some modicum of brain or skill, then the journo's gonna get irritated
''why do i have to learn this control scheme''
''why do i have to complete this puzzle (and i can't look the solution)''
''I don't have time to find unlockables or do anything but main story''

The other easy point is grasphics. You look at it, bing, done. A journo gonna praise a game graphics even if it's 20 hours of brown and bloom as long as the Start of the game is nice looking.
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>>334931447
No of course not: that anon is fucking stupid.
X is flawed in regards to its story, but it's an excellent game otherwise.
Splatoon is great after the updates, with the only thing holding it back being the fear of having a low amount of people online, which is why the selection is on a roulette.
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I am fucking confused, is this a sequel or a fucking reboot?
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>>334931871

I mean I owned a wii u, not wii
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>SM3DW shit on for not being like Galaxy, one of the most praised Mario games
>SFZ shit on for being like 64. The most praised of Star Fox games

I'm so confused
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>>334932027
Alternative universe/multiverse
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>>334931918
People play multiplayer because they find it fun competing and playing with friends so yeah it's good I'm their eyes
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>>334932027
Re-imagining.
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>>334931673
>saved money thanks to them
>was just going to pirate them anyway
You're not making a good case for yourself.
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>>334911261
>>334927354
Shiggy said no to turning it off.
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>>334931918
I dunno man. Look at Titanfall and Evolve as examples, I guess.
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>>334932143
But the ending is literally the same than star fox 64, or there other endings?
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>>334932137
Should have been like SNES SF instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkNBagNxmDc
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>>334932253
James does a kamikaze on Andross in one of them supposedly, so no I don't think it's the same.
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>>334931592

Fighting games are a bit of a different story, and it depends on the game. SF and Soul Cal are fine on pad, but it's hard as hell to do stuff like KoF pretzels or Tekken iSW on pad.
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>>334931871

>muh graffix
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>>334932231
Two terrible multiplayer centric games that were dead within a few weeks of release that somehow got enough "popularity" via media blitzing to get sequels that no one actually wanted in the first place?

What am I supposed to look at?
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>>334932202
Not at all. If there's no doubt in my mind I'll enjoy the game, I'll buy it. If I know it's fucking shit, I won't even download it illegally. Otherwise? Fair game.
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>>334932624
Quake, dude. It's multiplayer focused and isn't shit. Want something more modern? Counter Strike. Faggots still playing 1.6 years later. Even more modern? Team Fortress 2. Game is 11 years old and has no signs of losing traction. Multiplayer-centric isn't bad as long as the game itself isn't shit.
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>>334932428
>Fighting games are a bit of a different story
No it isn't. Neither control scheme is better and will make someone magically better with practice, it's about what the player is better with

>but it's hard as hell to do stuff like KoF pretzels or Tekken iSW on pad.
Cause you are a shitter
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I think a big part of Nintendo's problem is their catalog of games is just full of old ideas that no one is really all that interested in anymore.

Who wants a rail shooter like Star Fox anymore?
Who wants racing games that are non-realistic?
Who wants party games?
Who wants to play platformers in this day and age?
Who really gives that much of a shit about local multiplayer? Especially when it's at the expense of online multiplayer.

We want gigantic adventure games that tell us a story, and that's something Nintendo doesn't offer. In fact they take out story from games that use to have interesting ones, like the Paper Mario series. Nintendo's games don't really appeal to you unless you have nostalgia for them, and even that runs dry eventually.
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I think there's just over 15 reviews left to come in based on the previous games on the system.

>>334932890
Maximum tier bait.
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>>334927675
Not him, but ranked gets VERY competitive don't let the aesthetics fool you. Your rank isn't just a number, it affects who you play against and I'm only in A and these squids are out for blood.
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>>334932890
It's already dead to me, man. It's bullshit. I'm still interested, but nowhere near as much as I was for Wii games. Then again, I was a baby 12 year old shit, so.
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>>334932706
>If I know it's fucking shit
How can you know this if you haven't played the game? It boggles my mind that some people can shit on a game they haven't experienced for themselves. It's the same logic as saying "Egypt is all pyramids because I heard it was".

And that's not even considering that some bad games end up being fun because they offer a unique experience.
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>>334926282
>Gyro is simply not a good replacement for KB+M.
The irony, of course, is that Steam Controller users sort of accidetally hit upon the fact that, yes, gyro controls ARE really useful for aim, and gyro aiming is now more or less standard for all SC shooter bindings.

That said, the game should absolutely allow twin stick aiming. Frankly if Star Fox is really relying on aim-independent-of-ship-direction as a major skill necessity it's not a good sign, it shouldn't take Quake-tier aim accuracy to play the game well.

Twin sticks should be sufficient for any game that doesn't penalize missed shots, which SF0 doesn't AFAIK. And even though gyro is certainly a valid and worth-including control scheme for players who appreciate and enjoy it, forcing it is terrible.
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>>334932890

>Who wants a rail shooter like Star Fox anymore?
Me
>Who wants racing games that are non-realistic?
Me
>Who wants party games?
Grandmas
>Who wants to play platformers in this day and age?
Me
>Who really gives that much of a shit about local multiplayer? Especially when it's at the expense of online multiplayer.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT DROWN YOURSELF YOU INSUFFERABLE FAGGOT YOU ARE RUINING MULTIPLAYER
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>>334932889

lel sure m8

Go do an iSW combo
on your fucking PS pad. Have fun.

Then try to do three in a row
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>>334932890
This. I've owned every single Nintendo console since the NES, and until a couple years ago Nintendo was usually the only console I owned.
Then I got a PS4. Holy shit, Nintendo is SO FAR BEHIND and I had no idea.

Sorry Nintendo, you used to be the powerhouse of gaming, now you're not even an afterthought.
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>>334933489

The baby took his first step towards idortism

You'll get there someday, champ.
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>tfw next star fox will be a generic TPS to appeal to reviewers
fuck man
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Well, RIP Star Fox. Zero is probably a good game but this wasn't destined to sell well either way. Feels like the series swan song since its just a reimagining of the best entry in the series.
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>>334934069
it would be cool if they could just do that. Just focus on ACTUAL BRANCHING PATHS like 64 or darius.

Or fuck it, I'll make my own starfox 64. With lolis instead of furries.
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>>334933489
I have a WIi U and PS4 among other things and I don't think Nintendo is that far behind when it comes to games. I have more Wii U games than PS4 games. I rarely play it these days actually. Also this thread finally got me to play Splatoon. I've had it for months and I just never got around to opening it. It's really fun and the motion controls take like a good 10 minutes to get used to. Nice and simple. Now that I hear that Star Fox takes a couple of hours to get used, I'm thinking they must be really complicated.
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HAHAHAHAHJAHAA HE DIDN'T BU A PS4
PFFFFTHAHAHAHHAHAHABABA
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>>334934394
That's because Splatoon's gyro controls are mainly used for up and down motions.
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>>334934487
Are you okay, Anon?
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>>334934487
I waited for the PS4.5.
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>>334914921
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>>334911856
>an remake that's better on Dolphin
>dead game lol
>new rehash 4 u
>like 64 but worse
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I don't understand why people are complaining about gyro aim

There's a crosshair on the main screen, can't you just tilt the gamepad and watch the crosshair there?

I was under the impression that the gamepad screen is there for when you want to play co-op and have a friend aim
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>>334935227
The gamepad screen is there because you literally cannot use any other controller to play the game.
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>>334935321
And?
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>>334935386
And nothing. I'm just saying.
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>>334935321
...I meant the image on the gamepad screen.

People are making it out as though you're meant to constantly switch your view back and forth between the main screen and the cockpit view, but that doesn't sound necessary at all if there's a crosshair on the main screen
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>>334909212
ouch
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>>334935494
>People are making it out as though you're meant to constantly switch your view back and forth between the main screen and the cockpit view
That's for certain parts of the game like dropping the gyrowing's robot or big all-range mode bosses.
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>>334932027
It's New Super Star Fox Bros.
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>>334909087
If you wanted a good rail shooter you could have bought KI:U
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>Sadly it’s somewhat fitting that one of the final Wii U first-party games still doesn’t convince us on the viability of a dual-screen home console.

Nailed it. Why they keep forcing the dual screen gimmick when the console itself failed already?
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>>334935608
But its been shown that you can switch displays so that the gamepad screen is on the TV, so you really don't need to change your view.
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>>334935686
If you wanted a good rail shooter without shit controls you could have bought Sin & Punishment Star Successor.
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>>334929643
I agree that reviewers are stupid, anon, but W101 gets way too much praise from /v/. If anything, 75 is too high.
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>>334935686
I did.
Four years ago.
I'd like another now.
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>>334935686
>tfw a four year old game on a handheld has more content than the new Star Fox
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>>334935862
That;s your fault for investing in a Wii U i suppose.
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>>334935790
Good choice.

One thing I'll say about that game: the levels are so fucking long. And there's so much shit to fight. You barely get any time to breathe.

Some mid-level intermissions would have been welcome.
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>>334935930
What?
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>>334920824
Noa says no accents
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>>334923637
NO GREATFOX AT THE END WHATS THE POINT NINTENDOOOOOOOOO
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Rail shooters are one of my favorite genres. It's the 3D version of classic side-scrolling or top-down shooters. These games don't go out of style.

This game looks like shit because of a shitty control gimmick, inability to understand the core appeal of a shoot-em-up, and a company that refuses to challenge their audience. The control gimmick is the reason the game looks like shit. The chicken walker proves that Nintendo does not understand in any way why Star Fox or other rail shooters are fun. You barrel toward your goal and have to moment-to-moment deal with threats being shoved in your face while maximizing your score. Taking the movement away completely changes the game. The chicken walker is no different at all from on-foot shit in Assault. Just a different look for it.

And god damn it, Nintendo. Stop making your games for babies. In Star Fox for SNES, crashing into a wall took off a fourth of your health, and enemies constantly fired giant plasma bombs at you that would kill you in six hits or so. Star Fox 64 has an Expert mode that has you take more damage and makes the enemies far more aggressive, making it harder to accumulate good scores. This thing looks like a baby could beat it. And your hard mode has to be activated by a sold-separately McDonald's Happy Meal toy.

Fuck.
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>>334909087
So is the general consensus among reviewers is that you need to git gud to fully enjoy StarFox?

That's what I'm getting from the reviews
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>>334932890
>Who wants a rail shooter like Star Fox anymore?
Fair point
>Who wants racing games that are non-realistic?
Mario Kart 8
>Who wants party games?
Smash Bros
>Who wants to play platformers in this day and age?
Mario Maker
>Who really gives that much of a shit about local multiplayer?
Smash Bros again
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>>334932890
>Who wants a rail shooter like Star Fox anymore?
Me.
>Who wants racing games that are non-realistic?
Me.
>Who wants party games?
Yeah fuck those.
>Who wants to play platformers in this day and age?
Me.
>Who really gives that much of a shit about local multiplayer? Especially when it's at the expense of online multiplayer.
Fuck you and this bullshit, I miss local multiplayer. This is why arcades died too.
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>Miyamoto-san, many of our fans are saying a lot of things about the gyro controls. Perhaps we should make this optional instead?
>No.
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>>334918527
nice PS2 graphic kid.
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Nintendo should come out with a F2P online dogfighting game with the Starfox name on it. Like with Steel Diver: Sub Wars. Maybe throw in some Landmaster and Walker modes for variety. That'll get Starfox big again
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>>334932890
>Who wants a rail shooter like Star Fox anymore?
I do.
>Who wants racing games that are non-realistic?
I do. Lots of people have been clamoring for more stylized arcade racers, too. Photorealistic "simcade" racers have been played the fuck out lately.
>Who wants party games?
People who drink together and play games.
>Who wants to play platformers in this day and age?
I do.
>Who really gives that much of a shit about local multiplayer? Especially when it's at the expense of online multiplayer.
I do. Online multiplayer wastes your time with connecting, disconnects, waiting in lobbies, voting, etc. It's a pain in the ass and it's rare to find good sports who are reasonably close to your skill level.

Fuck you.
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>>334909212
Is this considered a burn......?

"Haha, that game's length is on par with the previous mainline entries in the series!!"
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>>334938071
>......
Go back to your subpleddit.
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>>334937027
Nintendo constantly pulling this bullshit is why I stay super super goddamn cautious about hyping for the upcoming zelda. If they don't challenge THEMSELVES, it'll be skyrim with zelda or whatever you want to call what you just explained. Of course I'd like it to be the game the series deserves, but I can't assume it won't be the above.
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>>334920318
>some same planets, all different levels
>different bosses
>similar gameplay but with new or updates vehicle modes

You know, like an addition to a series.
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