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My friend wants me to play this.

Is it any good?
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It's made by a tumbrina, so no.
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Surprisingly, yes. Just don't let the fact that the writer is trans spook you off

Also *Hyun-ae is not a pure waifu
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>>334872185
I hope you like your waifu being a fucking mass murderer but you're supposed to like her because she was oppressed and MUH FEMINISM
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>>334872185
Surprisingly alright, but I got bored of it before finishing it.
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its ok
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>>334872691

How is that justified?
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It wasn't nearly as bad as you would expect it to be, considering the writer and the message being pushed. Also serves as some decent insight into Korean(?) culture.

But to answer your question, is it any good?

No.
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>>334872185
Mute is fantastic in the sequel. Less so here.
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>>334873895
Keeping spoilers to a minimum: psychological
issues.

I've always had a soft spot for this game, but if you dislike a lot of reading, you're not going to enjoy it.

>>334874286
also this
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>>334872691
not gonna play this
a bit of more detailed explanation of how she was ''justified''?
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>>334875120
Spoilers incoming then

She had her tongue cut out by her father, was regularly beaten and yelled at, and was dying of some kind of disease.
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>>334872185
it's a nice short game.

Sequel is much worse in several areas and you can see author views polluting it.

Author is stereotypical SJW
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>>334872185
I played the first one and that one was GOD TIER but you had to play the game after having a childhood around the early 90s at the latest to truly enjoy it.

This new one just looks like anime shit. Is it any good?
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>>334875350
so the MUH FEMINISM part comes from daddy issues and blaming all men for everything bad that happened to her?
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>>334875925
Yeah, pretty much.

I viewed it as a historical piece, not a commentary on society right now, and thoroughly enjoyed it that way.

As >>334875703 said, the sequel is much heavier handed with the 'muh feminism'
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>>334875925
>so the MUH FEMINISM part comes from daddy issues
pretty much. Albeit she had pretty good reltions with her biological father. And awful with both adoptive father and mother.
>blaming all men
not really
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>>334875792
This one's unrelated to Digital.
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>>334872185
Its ok, sequel is god awful though
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>>334876550
I'm fairly sure its set in same universe just millenias years later.
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>>334874286
I'm still pissed she got killed off and replaced with a sjw copy that shits all over Good Mute
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I want to marry the game's creator.

And yes, I know.
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>>334876775
Author couldnt stand idea woman with supporting patriarchy could be happy.

So he killed her off.

I wonder if that counts as misogyny.
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>>334877186
Isn't there a mod to keep her from dying somewhere out there?
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>>334877186
>he
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>>334877385
Dat adam's apple
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>>334877385
cool adam's apple bro
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>>334877359
Yes
>>334877385
I'm fairly sure its a dude
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>>334877660
Christine Love is cute!

CUTE!
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>>334877801
He's so frumpy
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>>334872185
I liked it. Really sold the future historical aspect right, and I'm speaking as a Korean. The twist is more interesting than it first appears if you have the context.

I haven't finished the sequel, but the writing takes a huge nosedive. The tone is really off and everything is about fucking. I honestly wouldn't let it dissuade you though since the tone and writing for the first is perfectly fine, and the story is self contained.
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you better make a fucking cake
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>>334878327
I took someone else's photo and sent it in, then call him out on the game being shit after getting the achievement
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>>334872691
Mute is not a mass murderer. Are you talking about that other whore?
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>>334872185
No, it's made by a sjw with connections to shitaku. And yes Shitaku shilled the fuck out of it when it's pure shit.
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NOPEEEE
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>>334872185
It has a few songs that are cool but you can just listen to them without needing the "game"
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Analogue: A Hate Story and Hate Plus creator are personal friends/roommate of Patricia Hernandez. They had that sjw/gaming journalists connection... thus leading to good scores/reviews from shilling websites.

Their visual novels are pretty much shit for anyone who's played actual good visual novels with good story.
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>>334878548
Funny how even a sjw likes to draw Asians as white.
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>>334875120
He's retarded.
It was never justified. The whole point was that each of the characters are not who they seem to be and both have things that may make them appear to be good or bad that turn out to be the opposite. The "feminist" character was never justified in her actions. She was fucked with and acted like a bitch, and that was the point. That you were supposed to be tricked by her into thinking that everything was all goody too shoes with her when it turns out the sexist racist one was the hero all along.
I feel like its important to play Hate Plus after playing Analogue.
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>>334875703
The fuck are you on about? Hate Plus is superior in every way. You learn a hell of a lot more about what went down on the ship than in Analogue. It went and showed just how much fucked up politics went down on the ship and how the "bad" guy was reprogrammed and made to act the way she did.
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>>334878548
Who made it has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the title and should not be relevant when making game choices.
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>>334879007
Hate plus is a terrible mess, it is about an hour long and about reading random emails out of order, with the majority being about some gay guy and ads
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>>334879201
The majority were about the politics that went on on the ship, and the game let you choose which emails you read, so you only read about the gay guy if you wanted to. And besides that, the gay guy plot was relevant to showing what the ship once was before shit hit the fan.
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>>334879106
You're right, it doesn't. However the games are legitly shit for a visual novel.

Only people who hasn't played visual novels before would think it's alright or decent. And the worst part is that so many of these gaming journalist outlets are masquerading it as a 10/10 masterpiece makes me sick. It's disgusting how they would promote their own not on merit but on how they know each other.
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>>334872185
>Gook shit made by tranny gookoo/weeaboo
lol no
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>>334879007
First game was more interactive for one.
Author was more subtle in pushing his worldview two.
"no fourth wall" stuff fwas out of place too.
>>334879398
50+ hour eroge it is not
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>>334879398
Gaming journalism is shit. Not relevant to this game itself though.
>Only people who hasn't played visual novels before
That's what /a/ says about people who like "entry level" anime and yet its never true. After watching dozens of "good" anime the entry level stuff didn't stop being good. After reading "good" visual novels the quality of this one didn't drop. There were just others better. This one is still good.

Not that I'm saying that people can't dislike it; they can. You're free to think its shit. But fuck off with your "muh entry level vns" shit.
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>>334879958
The deviantart tier art and gook names alone already make me want to vomit
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>Western indie tranny anime wannabe visual novel
This is so pathetic
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>>334880330
and wast majority of vns has bunch of japanese named characters. So?

Art could be better indeed.
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>>334872185
No, it's an OELVN and one written by someone who doesn't even have a good grasp of the English language. It's horribly written and a massive waste of your time.
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>>334879958
It's not an entry-level VN, it's just a bad one. It's not good at all and if you think so you must not have read any good VNs. It's not something like Tsukihime that's still enjoyable if you've read a lot of VNs in spite of being entry-level, it's just straight terrible.
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>>334880651
I can stand jap names or even chink names but gook names? Fuck no
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>>334880802
This. How the fuck are people think it's good writing. Is it because this is indie weeb shit?
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I don't know, I kind of liked the demo, but that's mostly because I fucking love the idea of ark ships traveling at sublight speed taking so long on their journey that the culture has degenerated.
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>>334881026
They all sound same to me.

This is really shit angle to criticize game with.
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>>334881340
Hyungchuyngkimsangseyoinamsam? You must be dumb or something
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>>334881163
Because they haven't read a visual novel before in their life so it's all new to them. Also because the gaming media tells them it's a masterpiece because the creator is friends with them or some shit. Also a lot of people who praise it are the xenophobic types who like Japanese shit but don't want to admit it because they think Japan is "problematic" so they refuse to play Japanese VNs because they're all "just porn games."
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>>334880802
>>334881163
I'm going to chalk it up to being babby's first VN for a lot of people or close to it, like Katawa Shoujo.

The author has written one good story in his entire 'career,' and that's Digital. It was all downhill from there.
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>>334881691
It's one of the first VN published on Steam, so you're definitely right.
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>>334877801
>lolita shit
gross
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>>334872185
Forgot to add I would also say its overpriced for its length.

Maybe if its on promo or in a bundle.
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>>334881524
Same shit to me. Bunch of weird sounding names vs other bunch of weird sounding names.

also

>complaing about korean names in game about koreans
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>>334872185
I wouldn't call it (plus the sequel) a waste of time, but either pirate or get it on sale.
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>>334882435
I should never play anything related to gook. Well, everything gook related are all shit anyway
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>>334872185
Yes, it's good. But hopefully you like reading, because you're gonna be doing a lot of it.
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>>334882435

Korean names are worse than Japanese names. Jap names are at least simple and distinct while Korean names are like if a drunk chinese person ate a dictionary then threw up in a blender. It's all slurred and blended together into a mess.
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>>334882765
gooks are fucking hilarious. For how much they claimed to hate japan, everything they created looks like a bootleg version of japanese's.
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>>334883328
It's funny how you mention the Chinese but complain about Korean names.
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>>334883592

Eh, some chinese female names are cute and frankly they're pretty short and easy to remember most of the time. There's some really annoying ones in there, though.
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>>334884192
Sure.
It's just more often than not, if I pronounce one of the main three Asian names wrong, it's Chinese and their " 'tze' not 'k' " sounds.
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>>334883328
Not very convincing argument
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>>334884192
>some chinese female names are cute
This
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>>334884465

Korean detected.
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>>334884914
I'm a slav. I cannot comprehend why would anyone give a fuck about koreans assuming you are not a jap.
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>>334872185
No, fuck your friend
fuck your game

Play Muv Luv
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>>334872185
It's decent if you ignore the weaboo mass murderer. The only timed section of the game is fun, getting the best/joke ending requires some interesting logic, and *Mute is great. Shame her route was bastardized in the sequel.

You have to be in a mood to sift through documents, though. Just pretend you're in a lore thread.
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>oelvn written by some tranny
why would you ever think this is a good idea?
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>>334886019
Isn't muvluv on steam now? It makes both installation and import parts moot

Also comparing 3 hour game to one with word count comparable to infinity engine games.
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It severely suffers from judging the standards of the past by modern standards.
Also koreaboo as fuck.
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Came for the Koreaboo
Got kinda scared by the WOMYN
Stayed for the digital digital waifus
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>>334872185
I read an LP of it, which is basically the same experience as playing it since it's just a book cut up into pieces and strung around. I recommend you play an LP too.

As for the quality, it has its ups and downs. The plot twists surrounding Hyun-ae are legitimately great and you can really sympathize with her once you figure out what's going on. There were a few moments where things clicked and it gave me that kind of dawning horror that creeps into the back of your mind as I figured out just how fucked up everything was. The actual plot and sequence of events are also solid when you look at the story's basic structure. The society you're looking at is chilling partially because you get to see exactly how it became the way it is, and because it's supposed to be a representation of what Korea was actually like before it got modernized. I legitimately don't think any other game has tried to tackle that kind of touchy historical subject, and to its credit Analog does paint a pretty vivid and nasty picture of a different time.

But it's really badly written at other times. Most of the time the writing's got about as much subtlety as a hammer to the face, especially when it comes to its whole LGBT thing and the points it tries to make. Mute is the only sane person half the time, and your old racist conservative christian grandmother the other half of the time. Whenever it's not about Hyun-ae's plotline, it's so-so at best.

Basically, take it with a grain of salt. Past that veil of unsubtle points and boring "being homophobic is wrong and you should treat women equally" themes you have a great examination of a rarely-visited time period, that seems to have been very well researched and carefully put together into a decent sci-fi story.

So yeah, check out an LP.
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Play Digital first.
It's free, even.
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>>334891214
too bad writing in sequel is awful
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It was cute. Mute is the best.
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>>334872185

It's probably the best EVN i've ever played so yeah it's good.

Don't think I can say the same for Hate Plus but that is -primarily- because of what it pulls with *Mute in her own personal route. Even if she is unable to COMPLETELY go full retard when you're doing the harem route with *Hyun but 'parently that shit's not canon.
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