https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzEv-uHXBR8
> "Doom 4 is the unholy love child of Call of Duty and Halo."
> can hold 2 weapons only
> shitty and slow movement
> "Call of Duty loadouts" / progression system
Tell me again how casual machines a.k.a. consoles don't ruin gaming.
So one day I borrowed my brothers PS3... My ex told me after 30 minuts of playing that controller feels almost like her vibrator.
>>334848039
It sucks but literally who cares about Doom multiplayer anyway?
>>334850350
/thread
>>334850350
This
And before underages who never even played doom1/2 multiplayer start complaining about how the game invented deathmatch, nobody fucking cares
Yeah multiplayer is gonna be shit but the real deal is the SP.
To me it seems like mosters are not that visually distinct anymore at least their colours which was one of the big things that made doom so good imo.
>>334850350
>>334850884
>>334851005
>>334851221
>Honestly believing that after the shitshow that was the MP the SP will be any better
>>334850350
>>334852678
>two completely different teams
There's a small chance.
>>334852678
Not a fan of loot pinatas and kill animations, even though they're optional, but it at least looks decent.
out of curiosity, would the armor and skinned guns make it into the sp like halo reach.I am on the fence if that would be good or not.
>>334850350
>It sucks but literally who cares about Doom multiplayer anyway?
You're right, but on the other hand... a great multiplayer would have been appreciated. It would have been nice to get a fun, fast-paced arena shooter on the PC.
>>334848039
Jesus it's literally Halo 5, they used the same casual fast multiplayer, polygon armour, pastille colours and guns.
CUT MY DISC INTO PIECES
THIS A CONSOLE PORT
DUDEBRO TAUNTING, NO SPEEDING
DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF I BURN MY FANS SHIPPING
THIS IS A CONSOLE PORT
SELL OUR GAME IN MANY PIECES
THIS IS OUR LAST RESORT
MONEY GRUBBING, AND FLEECING
DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOUR WALLET'S LEFT BLEEDING
DO YOU EVEN CARE IF DOOM DIES BLEEDING
WOULD IT BE WRONG WOULD IT BE RIGHT
IF THIS IP DIED TONIGHT
CHANCES ARE THAT IT MIGHT
THE DUDEBRO'S MONEY IN SIGHT
AND I'M CONTEMPLATING PAYING SITES
'CAUSE I'M SHILLING THIS SITE
SHILLING'S MY LIFE
WISH SOMEBODY WOULD BUY SEASON PASS
http://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/361787186440124170/?tscn=1461095853#c361787186440539051
![cif3[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ICeimgr.png "cif3[1].png")
remember, community is falling 3.
we need community is falling 4
Great Brutal BAN
New DooM Multi Suck review
Gabe is return
and more
>/v/ champions overwatch and battleborn
>hates Doom despite i'm willing to believe >15% of the user base even playing Doom1/2 and an even smaller precentage touching Doom3 despite being a bit more modern, let alone ANY percentage of that doing doom multi
Quake and Halo fags can get their say so sure but I don't want anyone not experience in the originals saying shit about the reboot
>Can only hold two (2) weapons at once
STOP WITH THIS FUCKING MEME
>>334848039
Literally anmp problem. You're the casual here actually caring about multiplayer, it was even developed by bungie people. Single player has an arsenal and will play differently. Faggot.
>>334848039
doom was never about the multiplayer
>>334848039
The only reason Doom 4 is even being made in the first place is because of consoles. Consoles blow the fuck out of PC's for sales of every single game. Not only because most of you degenerates pirate because youre NEETS who spent all your welfare checks on "ebic machine upgrades" but also because only a handful of autists play PC gaming while the majority of normal people use consoles. Enjoy your special snowflake Napoleon complex though faggot.
>>334856569
>>334856389
They're pushing the multiplayer as if it were/is, it seems.
>>334850350
I'm guessing people that are fan of arena shooters?. I really doubt those pro quake 3/ unreal tournament/ [insert arena shooter] players who have lightning reflexes, elder god precision and move at the speed of thunder get any excitement of a slow paced single player game about shooting mobs of enemies that barely fight back.
The loadout system make it a generic fps multiplayer but I still had fun.
I however, don't care about the multiplayer. It was outsourced to some other team while the developers focused more on the single-player.
I don't know why they would outsource multiplayer though. I assume that making a tacked on multiplayer is very simple to do.
>>334856569
Doom was actually the FIRST (popular) multiplayer fps,
i keep hearing people say "doom was never about multiplayer"
kill youself please
>>334856693
>i was raped and i liked it.
the more /v/ hates on the new doom game the harder my dick gets.
bethesda has literally made the greatest Doom game of all time and you faggots just can't handle it.
>>334856895
>>334856893
I just don't overreact like a child.
>>334857075
>it was my fault, i shouldnt be wearing that tiny skirt
>doom is not about the mp
yeah because the sp footage sure looked great didnt it?
dumb kid
>>334856895
>>334857472
im especially looking forward to the random generic creature designs (aside from scripted kills)
I'm still iffy on the gameplay, it could either be good, or it could be absolute shit, but I really like the game's art direction nonetheless.
>>334857809
Don't forget the force arena fight in each level between keys ! Don't worry They add a compass to make sure you won't get knee in the deep brown level design.
The game feels nothing like Halo nor CoD, I bet some shitty clueless youtuber said this and every kid on the internet is parroting it.
It's still shit though.
>>334858162
>The game feels nothing like Halo nor CoD
>>334856724
revisionists
I don't even get the point of trying to pretend DOOM mp didn't matter. Is it just people desperate to defend the reboot or what? Or maybe just shitters. No idea
Consoles don't ruin gaming, lazy developers and their fans do.
>>334858260
Excuse me did you lost your way to reddit?
Even though they made the multiplayer work like quake, people would still spam shotgun shells and rockets and you would still be shit at the game and still call the game shit.
>>334858162
welcome to /v/, all parrots, no one plays anything, gotta meme to fit in and be cool.
>>334858162
>Halo and Cod are my mains, i play them all the time... and there IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT OKAY?!!
>>334848039
>> "Doom 4 is the unholy love child of Call of Duty and Halo."
I fucking wish this piece of shit was as good as Halo.
>>334858451
>he thinks I'm defending those games
Bad approach.
>a game anywhere near Bethesda
>anything but mediocritry
>>334848039
I had no idea this game was developed by consoles
>>334852678
This, I have a feeling movement will be similar
>>334856724
Not that I don't agree with you. Doom is still play online even today.
It was the first popular MP game but Quake really give to kickstart for online MP community. Doom real competition back in the days was mostly LAN.
>>334858358
>>334858260
>HURR DURR AM I FITTING IN WITH LE FUNNY MEME
fucking christ /v/ get this fucking cancer in control,as far what the game feels like,honestly it feels like a slightly slower version of quake 3 arena with some obvious inspiration from one of the halo games.
>>334858613
iirc some people found out you move faster in SP mode than MP mode
>>334858568
>Certain Affinity isnt real, it was made up by some youtuber
>>334848039
Still a better halo game than Halo 4 and 5
>>334858760
>it feels like a slightly slower version of quake 3
>>334858794
That's better. I'm still right though.
>>334858648
>i dont agree with you, doom was never about multiplayer, irl it was about multiplayer ffs!
>>334858859
The only thing this game has in common with Halo is no iron sights.
Even Halo has weapons scattered across the map.
>>334858885
>posting furry shit
e621 pls leave
Me on the left
>>334858760
>it feels like a slightly slower version of quake 3 arena
I'm sure you meant that it feel like Quake 2 with a huge chain ball attached to your character foot.
Also you miss the point where ALL guns feel like shit and that a SSG blast will no longer be able to kill 10 imp in one shot.
>>334848039
https://youtu.be/lzEv-uHXBR8?t=191
Epic, simply epic man. Fucking CoD kiddies, they'll never get to play a good game like BATTLEFIELD.
>>334859071
add dirt and wear, then for pattern do a tear camo with red being 2nd color. it gets closer then.
>>334858462
>Halo
>good
The theme song doesn't make everything else not shit.
Consoles didn't ruin gaming, the people who make and buy games for them did.
>>334859117
No? I mean exactly what i said by that statement,it in honesty like a slightly slower version of quake 3 arena,as far the weapon balance goes,yeah it needs work,the plasma rifle and assualt rifle are trash and feel like that they have no impact,the rocket launchers rockets are way to god damn slow.
>>334858975
I agree with you dude...But its true that doom online community didn't reach his peak until Zdaemon.
Its Quake that really push online gaming to the zenith.
Anyway are we really arguing about a halo clone?
Console shitheads can't deal with something like UT, so they have to do Doom terribly slow.
Well, you can't expect them to actually control the character with an analog stick. You need a keyboard for that.
Epic thread OP
>it's a pcbeggar race thread
kill yourselves
>>334859294
>le halo is bed meme
>>334859117
>will no longer be able to kill 10 imp in one shot.
It never really could. 5 or 6, but not 10. I know what you mean though. Trailer showing a double kill with a single shot gave me a little hope though.
>>334858162
Not much like CoD at all past the loadouts. It does feel Haloish though.
>>334848039
>he actually defends the demon bullshit
What a shithead.
Sir, the same faggot is posting over and over again.
>>334848039
>tfw PC is the only platform with the spiritual successor to Doom
>>334859664
Powerups in AFPS have been broken as shit for a long ass time
The demon is not the Gauss, at least
>>334859416
I think you need to try Quake 3 again mate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka-5hEcU01k
The beta seemed kind of okay gameplay wise but it wasn't particularly fun.
>>334859071
there was an attempt
>>334859117
The rocket launcher feels like shit and shouldn't have been a starting weapon
I mostly feel alright with the others though
>>334859823
Not how the game was meant to be played
Also, Duel
>>334859630
>It never really could. 5 or 6, but not 10
Possible in slaughter map, but yeah not really possible in vanilla map.
What scared me the most is that I haven't seen more than 10 monster on screen. That's a huge down if we don't get huge hordes of monsters.
>>334859760
No, fuck off
>>334849315
lmfao
Is this guy high? Doom was never a arena shooter, Doom never had decent MP at that.
>>334859760
I sure hope you're not implying Devil Daggers is anything like Doom.
Halo 5 is still the best shooter of this gen by far.
And I say that because UT seems like it will never be fully released.
>>334860014
>Not how the game was meant to be played
Love this meme.
You, anon, will definitely need the compass to get around the map.
Why was everyone expecting this to be a proper arena shooter even though they knew it was on consoles?
>>334859823
Is there a reason you're using a clip of one of the best FPS players in the world to prove quake 3 is fast? i think you're confusing the idea that fucking turn speeds and the bunnyhopping help give it some speed,but to say that's fast is bullshit anon.
>>334848039
Its faster than most fps, sp has multiple weapon inventory, progress system means more people hooked
Kill yourself nostalgiafag, your time is over, go rot in a retirement home
>>334850350
This, its just a shoe horned experience like bioshock 2s multiplayer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFPy3EzlAJo
>>334860352
Hope is a delusion.
>>334860126
Doom didn't have huge horders barring one or two maps in both 1 and 2. Plutonia did pull some shit though.
DESU I hate slaughtermaps and I'd rather have basic humanoid enemies that are a bit more of a treat than more basic stuff but I do hope the monster count is higher later
>>334860192
Doom was an arena shooter. The quality of the MP is another subject altogheter
>>334860348
Game wasn't designed around strafejumping
Carmack hated it and specifically it's only in in 3 because he couldn't remove it without fucking with other parts of the game
>>334859760
Sad because the game could have been very good ! Instead its just an overprice techdemo.
If he one day sell the engine I may buy it.
>>334860352
People just want to complain, the game looked like shit since the first gameplay.
>>334859823
What really makes Quake 3 faster than DOOM in terms of movement is the strafejumping. It was leaked that DOOM has a cvar that can enable some sort of bunnyhopping/strafejumping, but there's no guarantee it'll be in the final game of course. If they're worried about strafejumping being "too hard" to perform, they can just add a simple bunnyhopping mechanic. Actually, just make straferunning work, that's even easier to perform.
>>334859071
The one on the right looks cooler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYCLwr63C4
>>334860192
Define arena shooter
>>334852678
Doom 3 singleplayer was great. Its multiplayer was trash tier.
Who the fuck cares about the multi if its not Quake or Unreal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjTqy2gHAKo
>>334859071
Disgusting
>>334860674
a shooter thats in an arena
>>334860387
Too bad it's still uninspired ZeniMax trash
I was raised on the originals. Didn't really care for the multilayer. Hope the single player is good but if it doesn't look good I just won't by it. What is wrong with you people. Vote with your dollar instead of being a bunch of whiney little bitches
>>334856895
Remember when /v/ hated witcher 3? Mgs5? These retards find a new game to have every month
>>334852678
Fucking this. Single player looked bad in the reveal trailer.
>>334860848
>user has been banned for breaking NDA
>>334860674
>literally like quakeworld
that's the definition
>>334860848
DELETE THIS
>Arenafags getting shit on again
Feels great.
That faggot only had one thing right, there's a reason this isn't called Doom 4. The same reason Battlefront wasn't called Battlefront 3 and the last Thief wasn't called Thief 4.
>>334858265
>Doom got banned from offices because of lan parties
>Implying this isn't enough to say that Doom was pretty popular for multiplayer
It literally invented and coined deathmatch.
Quake was just bigger and easier to play multiplayer with but Doom shareware got a lot of deathmatch play.
Don't forget Dead Simple as well.
Did you know Doom II is the most pirated game of all time?
>>334860848
>>334861071
>>334861171
This doesn't break NDA niggas
That one pic that shows it being deleted was in a leak thread
>>334861217
Arena was the shittiest Elder Scrolls, anyway
>mfw doom 4 is not like halo its much more similar to quake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqc-7mhVhbI
>>334861360
They were all terrible.
>>334860491
>Carmack hated it and specifically it's only in in 3 because he couldn't remove it without fucking with other parts of the game
Didn't they try removing it in Q2 but the player feedback was so negative they put it back in the following patch?
It's an ascended exploit, it became a feature. Quake Live has strafejumping training
>>334861450
>Didn't they try removing it in Q2 but the player feedback was so negative they put it back in the following patch?
q3beta, that's what i'm referring to
>It's an ascended exploit, it became a feature. Quake Live has strafejumping training
i know, but even then
>>334858162
It feels closer to Halo or CoD than to Doom or Quake, that's the fucking point.
>>334861571
The Elder Scroll games were all fucking awful anon and you know it. But Oblivion had to be the worst one.
>>334859760
Fuck off.
I bet you think Serious Sam is old school.
>>334861658
It doesn't feel more like CoD than Quake at all
>>334861572
You could say the same of rocketjumping, or combos in sf2
That the devs didn't predict these could happen doesn't detract from their appeal or usefulness even slightly
>>334861658
It's nothing like CoD. It's more like UT3
doom 4 campaign footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9yC5kAiwaI
The new doom moves just as fast as UT alpha 2016 you stupid cucks.
However it still has stupid shit like load outs pretty much no weapons on map etc.
Hell if It played more like classic halo I'd be fucking happy. But as of now it goes into the trash
>>334860014
>not how the game was meant to be played
what's your justification for this?
CTF was just as fast and strategic
>>334861791
Combos in SF2 were intentional, read the interview on it.
>>334861952
I want to impregnate Joosten
>>334860990
Yeah, and this is a DOOM game made for the Bethesda audience
>>334861791
rocketjumping was intended since fucking doom and it didn't even have a jump
combos in sf2 were a bug during development that got thrown in as an actual feature iirc
>>334861919
>The new doom moves just as fast as UT alpha 2016 you stupid cucks.
it doesn't at all
also run speed ain't everything
i don't think the game's slow but ut is faster
>>334861952
it wasn't the gamemode i was referring to
that's why i said also
Doom 4 MP felt exactly like Quake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHe4xTeSASg
>>334862160
>rocketjumping was intended since fucking doom and it didn't even have a jump
Weird, I remember an interview about how John Romero saw someone RJing in Q1 to get a key early and basically fucking flipped as he had never thought of it
I wouldn't put the secret exit you can get to in Doom by soaking rocket damage in the same category, though I guess it's a "rocket jump"
>>334861356
That shit was in a Clueless Gamer video anyway.
exactly
like
quake
>>334860848
This was more or less what Wolfenstein did for upgrades, and it did absolutely nothing horrible to the gameplay
>>334862276
i appreciate you dumping videos that noone's going to watch, possibly not even me, but you're trying way too hard man
>>334861658
It has absolutely nothing in common with CoD.
>>334859489
what's your point? Less people play Meme Souls 2 on PC than on peasant machines? So?
>>334859564
>pcbeggar race
You were saying?
Are you mad that some people can actually afford a good gaming PC AND the games for it? Is mommy not buying you enough games for your shitty console?
>>334860360
depends what you mean by fast. if you mean in terms of the thought process going into their actions it's incredibly fast. there's numerous tactical decisions being made per second in some cases
in terms of shooting skill, those rail shots aren't easy
what is your idea of fast basically? post a video etc
>>334860352
they want to hold onto their image of idsoftware as an indie company that made it big
in reality it was always going to be a cash in
>>334860491
>Plutonia did pull some shit though.
tfw Snapmap completely missed the point and we'll never get Plutonia 2, Memento Mori, or Scythe in Doom 4
>>334862489
if you didnt know these videos before anyway, one must not attach value to your opinion
>>334862736
If we bully id enough we might get idStudio for PC Doom. But probably only years down the road as they want to push SnapMap in the short to middle term
>>334860990
>Remember when /v/ hated witcher 3?
>implying /v/ is a uniform entity
OP here, I loved The Witcher.
>>334862908
Im op you lying faggot, and I hated downgrade 3
>>334862809
lolno
Gamer Gawpers will get triggered over literally anything, lol.
>>334863041
CS kiddie
Quakefags are the worst FPS community aside from the obvious picks.
>>334862160
i don't understand, so how was the game meant to be played then?
>>334863173
whats the best fps community?
>>334848039
>> can hold 2 weapons only
>> shitty and slow movement
>> "Call of Duty loadouts" / progression system
The alternative to holding only 2 weapons at once is a system where the best player in the game grows exponentially more powerful as he acquires the best weapons and proceeds to kill the other players, resetting them back to the shotgun again and again.
I'm sorry to inform you, but as fun as games like Doom and Quake were back in the day, they were designed without any semblance of balance whatsoever. And while were on the subject of Doom and Quake, why are you now bitching about "shitty and slow" movements? Fuck, just being able to look up and down, and jump put this game leaps and bounds ahead of the original Doom. Double jumping and pulling yourself onto a ledge? That makes this game a lot better.
And fuck you, I like having a progression system. At least that gives the game some sort of reward.
In any case, it is all a moot point anyway, because who the fuck is playing this for multiplayer?
>>334863113
no cs here lmao
>>334859071
>be a marine in space
>don't wear a space suit
Yeah, nah, the old design is objectively retarded.
>>334863269
None of them.
>>334863291
faggots ignoring the whole fucking "Hell demons on Mars" thing complaining about fucking realism
>>334863280
>The alternative to holding only 2 weapons at once is a system where the best player in the game grows exponentially more powerful as he acquires the best weapons and proceeds to kill the other players, resetting them back to the shotgun again and again.
This heavily depends on the gamemode actually
But yeah 2+ players DM in AFPS is usually ass
>>334850350
A lot of people seeing as the OG DOOm Multiplayer is still played at QuakeCon yearly.
>>334856893
>>334857417
I get that the multiplayer is bad, but holy shit this is a terrible analogy.
Its time guys
http://strawpoll.me/7420990
>>334862998
pic related, it's you.
>>334863280
>And fuck you, I like having a progression system. At least that gives the game some sort of reward.
yeah, "reward", like getting better gear the longer you play and making it even harder for new players to get into the game. (See how well that worked in Battlefront)
The only reward a real gamer needs in a game like this, is getting better at the fucking game. But I guess you modern CoD kids need your shiny "rewards", so you can jerk off to your Prestige and medals, while still being shit at gaming.
>>334863514
>Needing to make a poll for the board that has 10+ threads a day talking shit about Sony
Really?
>>334862376
Is this the birth of a new epic meme?
>>334863284
omg you are dumb as shit
>>334863280
>designed without any semblance of balance
no you were just bad at them probably
Q3 and Doom map design is basically second to none except maybe UT or CS
They've had a massive lifespan because they're balanced games with balanced maps
Call of Duty et all have the shortest lifespan because precisely minimal effort goes into what makes Doom/Quake/CS games have a long lifespan
>>334863280
>The best player does better
just fuck off and die you fucking casual
>>334863741
No, it's just Quakefags acting autistic as always.
>>334863750
no u
forreal
>BOT D44M MULTIPLAYER AND UT4'S MULTIPLAYER R DA SAME SPEED!!!
yes they have the same walking speed, but UT4 is much faster because there is strafing,, multiple weapons, wall jumping, rocket jumping and actual momentum. Also that half the weapons can one shot at standard health.
No weapon in Doom can oneshot you at standard health except for the upgrades, which only one person can have at a time per upgrade. When the majority of weapons at minimum need two shots to kill, even when the first shot is a critical hit, it slows the game down, a lot. And theres no momentum in the game either.
>>334863795
>implying: "Quakefags" is a thing
>>334863458
Do you mean it's played at the BYOC or something? The last actual tournament for it was in 2013.
>>334848039
god is there something in youtube terms over service that requires you to talk in the most unbearable way possible
fuck off dude youre playing a video game just talk normally or better yet shut the fuck up and let me see some gameplay
>>334863780
>Q3 and Doom map design is basically second to none except maybe UT or CS
lol fuck off
doom's maps weren't balanced at all for mp
q3's were better but a lot were still trash, i'd even say the majority
and balance is not just maps
>They've had a massive lifespan because they're balanced games with balanced maps
they've had a massive lifespan because of popularity and mods
also esports
>>334863994
>He thinks they aren't.
>>334848039
He started off okay and went insufferable tier about 3 minutes in. His jokes are cringey and his 'stupid lel' voices are just annoying not funny.
>>334863864
>UT
>momentum
Ayy
The roll barely fixes the jerkiness of the movement
Also the weapons oneshotting is a thing a lot of good players complain about
>>334864045
>Those ten seconds of him doing that fake sobbing.
God damn, what an annoying person.
>>334863864
>2 shots to kill
pfft with the Doom beta it's more like 3 or 4 because everyone usually has a bit of armour and basically only 100% direct hits do upwards of 55 damage
UT has the sense to make their weapons lethal
>>334863780
Modern warfare 2 is still popular and a lot of people still play it.
Actually if you join any MW game you will get your ass kicked. People will simply kill you through walls because they've been playing this game since the release.
>>334848039
don't think I have ever disagreed with someone so hard.
>>334863514
>console wars xDDD
What a fucking retarded poll.
>>334863397
Fuck, Hell demons on Mars makes more sense than the armor design. A multi-billion dollar military contractor experimenting with teleportation technology managed to open a gateway to a hell-like dimension full of violent, malevolent, demon-like beings.
A spaceman walks around the surface of Mars without a suit on, even outside of the climate-controlled, man-made facilities.
Tell me, in the realm of science fiction, the second premise isn't way more retarded.
>>334863864
> UT4 is much faster
>have to use dodge button every second because of how slow the running speed is compared to it
>>334864216
on console or on PC?
>>334864059
>doom's maps weren't balanced at all for mp
user made DM maps were available basically from the beginning, even before Quake came out
Certain Affinitys focusgroup lab
>>334864360
wow its just like quake bunnyhopping except you actually use it while fighting as well
>>334864462
except bunnyhopping takes skill while button mashing spam does not
>>334858748
>greentexting le single word
>laughing reaction image
When I grow up I wanna post just as good as you onii-chan!
>>334864219
what a well argued rebuttal, totally convinced me!
>>334863514
>sonyggers getting btfo this hard
fucking kek,i could live without the cancer that is bethfags and sonnyggers any day of the year
>>334864360
Movement options can make one game faster than the other, which UT4 is faster than D44M.
also, if you get hit by a rocket splash in UT4, you actualy gett blasted away unlike in D44M. You can get hit directly and not move an inch.
>>334864384
Both, even MW3 has a lot of players, even on PC.
I still play it because quickscoping is actually fun.
>>334863638
>yeah, "reward", like getting better gear the longer you play and making it even harder for new players to get into the game. (See how well that worked in Battlefront)
>The only reward a real gamer needs in a game like this, is getting better at the fucking game. But I guess you modern CoD kids need your shiny "rewards", so you can jerk off to your Prestige and medals, while still being shit at gaming.
I've literally never played a modern CoD game. The last one I played was Call of Duty 3, which didn't even have multiplayer. Also, Doom was the first FPS game I ever played. I was about 9 when it came out.
New players could get into the game quite easily, if there is a proper matchmaking system. I'm sorry, but games evolve. This isn't 1993, and the new Doom game is an objectively better experience than the original. Take off your nostalgia goggles.
>>334864059
I meant in terms of general aesthetic and gameplay design versus cawadootys corridor maps
Doom 3 actually had some pretty good duel maps as an aside though
I would say most vanilla Q3 maps had legitimate playability and were interesting.
>popularity
why were they popular? Quake 3 had basically no single player experience yet it was hugely popular and had a massive lifespan if you include Quake Live
Explain to me in your mind why arena shooters fell off and modern shooters became popular
Then explain why most modern shooters MP die off in about a year (if it's even that) despite millions being sunk into them
>>334864641
Go back to >>>/r/eddit you consolewar loving faggot.
>>334864680
>the new Doom game is an objectively better experience than the original
>>334864680
No, you just don't get why progression system in competitive games are just complete bullshit. They should be about who's better at the game, not who grinded more to get better gear.
This is why CS is still the best competitive FPS, whether you like it or not.
>>334864925
>being this bootyblasted over the the truth
>mfw you're being this autistic
there was a way to turn on speedboosting when jumping in to air diagonally in the Alpha via consolecommand
what ever happened to that possibility
I also remember hearing there could be mutators in multiplayer servers and that this feature would be there
do I remember wrong?
>>334864642
> rocket splash in UT4
I don't think that rockets do any splash damage in UT4 mate
In fact rocket launcher is stupidly weak in this game, it has low rate of fire and requires you to hit enemies directly.
The other issue i have with UT is the lack of armor shards.
The only playable map is still deck and new maps suck and have shit design.
Also people who play that ne UT are the same who were playing ut2004 since release, they all even know eachother. Even quake live has more newer players, and thus is more fun to play.
>>334864658
On console - whatever. Controller based FPS is a joke as far as I'm concerned. Normie game for bro gamers.
On PC - Steam had a 15k player peak today for Black Cops 3 vs CSGO which had over half a million. Say what you like but CSGO is basically original CS with a gfx upgrade
CSGO has minimal mod support so it's everyone just playing on the same CS maps with a new lick of paint.
Meanwhile I can't think of a single CoD map that stands out in memory
>>334865123
>Participating in some of the worst /v/ cancer
>The same cancer /r/4chan browsing fucks admit to love
Kill yourself, save the board.
>>334864360
If you run for a bit, you speed up. Sprint is what it's called, I think.
>>334864462
>ou actually use it while fighting as well
This is what sold me on dodges long ago.
>>334864642
>you actualy gett blasted away
Not by that much though. It ain't Quake.
>>334865142
>In fact rocket launcher is stupidly weak in this game
Holy shit man. You're so fucking out of your mind if you genuinely think this.
>>334865115
If you're better at the game, someone grinding to get better gear literally isn't a problem. Even if you suck, you'll get experience, level up, and end up with the same gear. This literally isn't a problem, stop making it one.
>>334848039
Kill yourself, pc fag.
>>334864680
>This isn't 1993, and the new Doom game is an objectively better experience than the original.
I agree but there's just a lot of bullshit on the new game as well
>>334865449
>Not by that much though. It ain't Quake.
Wasn't comparing it to Quake. All I said is that knockback does exist, even if it's not a large amount, and that D44M has none.
>>334865115
>CS is still the best competitive FPS, whether you like it or not.
>CS
>competitive
hahahaha fucking shilling a bit hard there aren't you anon? i mean i know you enjoy your skins and but come on,seriously?
I'm kinda sad y'all don't like it desu. I enjoyed the hell out of it which was really unexpected
>>334865129
Snap map allows you to change all of that but nobody will give a fuck and continue to call it a halo clone.
>>334864680
>new players
you could reinvent tennis and sports for new players but guess why they don't?
because faggots like you get told to git gud when they go 2-15
>>334865591
Call him a retard all you want but "shill", fucking really?
>>334865402
the only reason why csgo is popular are skins
And if you have memory issues you should go and see a doctor.
>arena shooters
>deathmatch
ayy is this what babies play these days?
defrag or bust
>>334865709
>B-But anon,i l-like my ibuypower skins!!!
hahahaha fucking pcucks.
>>334848039
>Muh consoles are the source of all the evil in the vydia industry
It's not the fault of Sony or Microsoft that Bethesda designed the new Doom around 8th-gen consoles.
Consoles are literally the PC gamer's boogeyman.
>>334864550
okay... wut anime?seriously, source please, google gives me nothing
>>334848039
K, so how the fuck is Doom being bad related to home Consoles? Are you legitimately retarded, or is it an irony thing?
Not even a shill, but way for the SP. I'm serious
Doom 3 had meh MP but good (IMO) SP.
Rage had an utter afterthought of a MP but an OK campaign
This will probably be the same thing, esp. given how the MP is literally outsourced to another dev
If Nu-Doom's SP is shit I'll swallow my words and concede the hate train was right
He actually said Tribes is an arena shooter, what the fuck.
>>334865876
You're dumb.
>>334865967
Aiming limitations, and current console shooter trends.
>>334859071
maximum wear
and add a little more dirt
>334865449
By this time you should have realised that i dislike UT and i'm a quakefag.
You can throw any arguments you want but i simply dislike it's design, from stupid wallruns and dodges to jerky movement and weapon balance. And like i said i hate it's armor mechanics.
>>334865776
okay fine rewind to before CSGO then when CS and Source were top of the stats page
where was MW then? no one fucking cared except the normies and people who wanted an easy k/d
no one has given a flying fucking shit about MW for fucking ages because the skill ceiling is so fucking low it's painful
beyond that it's about as memorable as the transformers movies
everyone said it at the time, everyone still says it now
>muh contrarianism of "I actually liked this piece of fucking shit"
okay anon, okay sure okay, okay
>>334866137
>>334866137
anon it's okay to admit to you've lost the argument.
>>334866020
really hope the single player is good... not feeling optimistic about it though
>people are still defending this blatantly consolized shit game
>>334848039
Casual machines dont ruin gaming because all you hardcore faggots that think every game has to be autistic as fuck are wrong. Autism simulators like quake live and unreal tournament are dead because you faggots dont actually play HARDKORE ARENA SHOOTERS. The doom beta was fine sure it was casual but big fucking deal all of you are silver elite master tier counter strike players pretending you're good at fps.
>2 weapon loadout
this is a beta im sure traditional deathmatch will be a thing and you can carry an entire arensal in SP anyway Im sure
>slow movement
well it runs about as fast as modern shitters with the sprint held down so its not really that slow
>call of duty loadouts
the hack modules literally only help out shitters, if you cant deal with a shitter spawning with 5 extra armor after he dies or some angry shitter headed right for you with his wallhack thingy git fucking gud lol
This is doom deathmatch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrIZmaOMCg8
its fucking shotgun jousting the entire time and all of you 12 year olds would suck dick at it anyway so dont act like thats what you want.
FPS fags on /v/ are the biggest fucking plebs I would crush you at an actual hard deathmatch game like duke nukem 3d.
>>334866020
Rage had multiplayer? That's news for me lol.
>>334866359
it was still more fun than snoozefest csgo.
>>334866359
>being a buttblasted PCuck throwing a tantrum over people having fun on another gaming platform
>>334865498
it is a problem for new players, but the main problem is, it's just fucking stupid.
>>334865776
>the only reason why csgo is popular are skins
>>334865591
>hahahaha fucking shilling a bit hard there aren't you anon? i mean i know you enjoy your skins and but come on,seriously?
Haha, ok, believe what you want, I really don't care about what some butthurt morons think. But I know literally NOBODY who started playing the game for skins. In fact, most of the people I play with, including me, hated it when they introduced them first.
And since skins don't add any stats or advantages whatsoever, it really isn't a problem, it's still better than some progression system that locks the best guns away from new players.
>>334866276
There was no argument on your part.
Thinking someone shills for the most popular (2nd most popular? Whatever) shooter on PC is retarded. Use better words.
Before memeing again, I don't play CS or any modern shooter.
>>334853382
We already have Quake Live. We don't really need anything else.
>>334866338
You got people so fucking mad about the MP's mediocrity - Like they were expecting this to be the second coming of Q3. How fucking dumb can you be
QL just become paid, that's their competitive fps - I'm pretty sure they don't want to cannibalize their own sales on that regard. Not to mention they probably looked at the shitty player numbers QL's been pulling and told Certain Affinity to make a more modern-feeling MP
>>334866432
A destruction derby mode like the SP races and some short 2-player co-op side missions.
>>334859760
I love Devil Daggers but it is nothing like Doom.
>>334866426
>autism simulators
>duke nukem 3d
10/10 trolling anon, i kek'd
>>334866426
>Autism simulators
So not being a stupid kid with an attention span of 5 seconds now means I'm autistic? Ok, then.
Was this the best scene of any video game movie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueKhVcqQBtg
>>334866505
>CSGO
deflection
>>334866524
>console wars
deflection
>>334866714
learning how to rocket jump and strafe jump and move around the map requires dedication and autism. I learned how to do that and spent my time doing it but to expect others to do the same is asking too much. The people on /v/ haven't though you are literally all the casual shitters you claim to hate. None of you play arena fps and you pretend to for your hardcore gamer persona.
Also douk3d is the fastest craziest dm around, tripbombs, jetpacks and all sorts of fuckery makes it way more insane than quake1 which is elder god tier with its fast rockets and lack of ez mode railguns.
>>334866237
>were top of the stats page
Just stop.
CS and half-life were the sole reason why people had steam. Majority of people back then had 3 or 4 games on it.
Only in 2010 plebs started to pour in. Also COD4 was not on steam. Neither was WaW.
>>334866871
you are a stupid kid with an attention span of 5 seconds, thats why i am alone on my autism simulator and you left them all to die.
>>334865661
>snapmap
oh but god damn it has that 4 player max limit
>>334848039
Because its shittiness has nothing to do with consoles. It has everything to do with casual gamers who don't want fast paced games that overwhelm them.
>>334867025
>which is elder god tier with its fast rockets and lack of ez mode railguns.
the rocket was the railgun
>>334866359
>tfw watching people play DOOM with a controller
>>334867231
B-But consoles are bad!
>>334867291
the rockets were fast but not point click kill like the railguns. Q2 railguns at least had a delay
>>334867025
>None of you play arena fps
I actually play quake live but i'm very bad at it, i don't even know how to check my elo and most of my duels end with funny score 0:18, -1:22, 1:24.
I'm playing sinister and it's really hard to maintain control because the map is big. Unless your opponent rushes you with machinegun like a retard.
why do you guys hate on halo so much its the game you millennial scum grew up with, you don't even play the good fps games you claim to love you little faggots probably just watch letsplays on youtube
