Guile Trailer is up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os-BNWkOAAE
>crouch walking
RYU FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
And Zangief just dropped down another tier.
There's my main, everybody.
OH MY GAWD IT FEELS SO GOOD AROUND MY DICK GURL
Does Guile's theme still go with everything?
>Actually has a trailer
>Theme is actually good
>Hair doesn't look like shit
>Looks like he is actually good
Alex was a mistake, redo him capcom.
>>334817310
Gief isn't THAT bad, people playing him are doing better than Laura and le two minute man in general. But yeah, this is going to be an almost unwinnable match up
>>334817537
I've gone years without being reminded of that and you went and ruined it.
dat theme. i'm so thankful that they had multiple composers for SFV.
>>334817547
Do you think Capcom will update their models? Ken and Alex could look great with some minor adjustments, shit ken's alpha costume looks bretty gud even
>>334817623All we need now is some pee-pee
>>334817623
WOULD ANYONE LIKE SOME POUND CAKE?
>that theme
>>334817215
Why Ryu is specific?
>Giving a charge character crouch movement
>>334817664
I honestly think both ken and alex look fine in gameplay, but somehow the VS screens of them look hideous.
Dude lookin' manly as fuck.
>>334817935
I think it's a pretty cool gimmick, does it make him broken or something?
The music in SFV is somehow worse than IV and I have no clue how that's possible. This and Alex's theme are pain to my ears.
I hope Sonic Booms are still as good as they were in SF4 with their ridiculous recovery.
>>334817547
>Alex
>Shit
>>334817974
A lot of characters look kinda awkward in the VS screen, I agree that they look fine in actual gameplay. People just go overboard with the JUST memes
Who's hype for thesource porn?
>Guile gets crouch moving
>No crouch moving for Alex
IT'S NOT FAIR!!!
I wonder if the crouch walk will have some delay to get out of it unless it's cancelled into a special.
Shades on by default is the right move.
>that shitty music
How did we go from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_VkmyYPJy4
to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJlXwxgz_-w
I hope they fire the composer for season 2.
>>334818143
Alex > Guile for SFM
>>334818154
He really doesn't need it, just give stomps an air hitbox and let it cross up
>>334818263
Just make stomps not have shit recovery
Maybe they'll actually be worth using
>Guile not fighting charlie
>>334818037
Shit taste lad
>>334817537
Oh Anon, you so nasty.
>>334818225
>not picking best Jazzy NYC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0INjvCMfz0Y
>>334817075
>that awful remix
>>334818342
They're trying to create the effect of releasing a stronger character than the last release.
League of Legends does this too.
Makes people buy shit.
>>334818374
Are you serious? Jazzy NYC in 3S is one of the best themes in video game history. It's the most played SF3 stage for a reason. You're the one with shit taste.
>>334817664
Literally just model swap Story Alex's head onto default Alex.
Why are all American characters charge?
>>334817075
Holy shit his zoning game looks godlike, how the hell can Zangief deal with this if it is even half as strong as it looks?
![charliealpha[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LXLqg8i.jpg "charliealpha[1].jpg")
>Guile doing 1-handed sonics
Boy finally learned...
>>334818327
Ex-stomp is +2 on block, but less recovery would be nice yeah. Mostly annoyed that jumping beats both stomps and the jump grab
>that theme
Capcom needs to die
>Street Fighter IV is actually just Street Fighter II : 2
>Street Fighter V is actually just Street Fighter IV : 2
>your face when SFV is actually SFII:2:two
>>334818529
I find myself using the jump grab a lot more than the stomp because the hard version literally goes fullscreen. Catches a lot of fireball spammers offguard
>>334818024
It's slow as fuck, it isn't broken
>>334818457
Guile's theme is great, never really cared much about Alex desu so sorry his remix sucks to you. I have zero nostalgia for it so its just "meh" to me.
>>334818327
>Can be jumped
>Negative as fuck
>Cant be canceled from any crouch button except jab
>Need to do incredibly finnicky stand cancels to make them even deceent
Seriously just make them either able to crossup or not 100% jumpable
>B-but muh +2 on EX
>>334818457
So you wanted them to just port it over or something?
Plus Alex theme in V is also really great.
>>334818501
Atlease he didn't have to fall off a waterfall to learn how desu.
>>334818496
Zangief would have been able to deal with it a lot better if it was his beta version. Unfortunately, people complained about him so much that he got nerfed hard before the game even came out and before people knew anything about the game.
>>334817547
No need man Theres already a mod for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWihRZK83IQ
learn how to mod.
>>334818594
2)
>tfw you actually like Alex' default costume
>>334818457
3s Jazzy NYC is literally the worst version next to TvC.
3s in general has a complete shit soundtrack.
>>334817567
That's because the one Gief player is too fucking good.
I wish Infiltration had stick with Laura and her hentai-air.
>>334818471
I'd be down for this, fucking weird that they're different to begin with. Hist story mode hair looks way better, give him his original outfit as another costume and I feel most people would be happy
CROUCH WALK. GG EVERYONE ELSE.
>>334817075
Rendition of guile theme sucked.
>>334818658
Neither did Charlie/Nash.
>Crouch movement only keeps Flash Kick charged
Why are they acting like this is something unique? There's no charge being "stored" you're still holding down.
>>334818594
SFV is more SF Alpha 4 or SF3.4
>>334818594
>SF(You)
>>334818658
Nigga Charlie been doing 1 handed Sonic booms since fucking Alpha.
>all these crouch forward flashkick shitters going to give me free wins when i punish their ass every time
>>334818851
why does she look like anthony burch
also nice trigger discipline
>>334818695
It could still look better though, there's something about it that shows it's clearly a slightly modified port of the SF4 model he made for Abel.
>>334818778
The one Gief player got eliminated due to an average Nash player the other day. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls out another character like Ryu for certain matchups or if he's against someone really good.
Crouch walking
Yikes
I can't wait until season 1 is over so we can get some goddamn technical improvements like KB rebinding, DInput and reduced input latency on PS4
>>334818871
>There's no charge being "stored" you're still holding down.
But there is since a down charge is stored for the Flash Kick?
>>334818778
>>334819014
Are you people talking about SnakeEyez.
I find it hard to believe people who watch fighting games dont know about Snake.
>>334818871
Crouch walk is a stance, you can sonic boom out of it.
>>334818975
>trigger discipline when you're going to kill yourself. What are you fucking talking about
>>334818975
>muh trigger discipline
The gun's most likely not even loaded and it makes sense to have your finger on the trigger when you're about to blow your brains out you autistic pseudo-/k/ommando.
>>334819202
>Crouch walk is a stance, you can sonic boom out of it.
are you sure ?
Never liked Guile's playstyle, but this looked pretty cool. I'm prepared to share a healthy dose of FREEDOM.
Do we have a date yet?
>>334819202
>Are you people talking about SnakeEyez.
>I find it hard to believe people who watch fighting games dont know about Snake.
Yes, him and another Gief lost to the same Nash player and they both play pretty differently so it's pretty likely that he'll switch characters in the future for the matchup. It's a shame, but all of the top Gief players are struggling hard.
>>334818024
It's slow, plus Guile could already move forward with charge with Knee Bazooka and HK, though you need to take care not to do it into your opponents poke range or they can whiff punish you
>>334818956
>All those Crush Counters
Oh baby. On the other hand non-shitter Guile mains are probably going to be scary as fuck. Those multi-Booms look insane. I can only hope the crouch-walking only stores Flash Kick charge and not Booms.
>>334819320
Not him, but here's the official line on the matter:
>In Street Fighter V, Guile retains his ability to dominate both the ground and air with his solid normal attacks and special moves, such as Sonic Boom and Somersault Kick. He also now has the ability to enter a crouch walk state called Faultless Move which allows him to keep his charge while moving forward, giving him even more options in his kit to keep his opponents in line.
Source:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/04/18/guile-joins-street-fighter-v-roster-this-month-april-update-details/
Seems to suggest its for both, and that it is a state, not an input movement.
Mr. Nash I'm USAAF
>>334817075
Fucking NICE
So question, whats so "suggestive themes" about this trailer?
>>334819590
Maybe you press something like down+KKK to enter it and he just starts crouch walking until you cancel out of it.
Guile actually looks boss as fuck
I hope he shuts down Nash's edgy bullshit hard
>>334819647
Simple, effective costume change. I like it. Classic Guile alt will sell anyway.
>>334819510
He should have used his Ryu as a trumpcard there, Jayce practiced that match-up to death with Stupendous, the second best Gief around.
I mean, first he says that he has a Ryu for the match-ups he doesn't want to deal with, and then he fights Nash, arguably the worst match-up for Zangief, probably even harder than Dhalsim, and yet he stick with Gief to the end and never brings his pocket Ryu out? Talk about loyalty man.
>>334818225
Just needs some fixer uppin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbN3Fvbd3qs
>>334819723
That applies to the game in general.About 4 characters worth of sloots.
>>334819803
I thought he had said that his Ryu wasn't ready yet for tournament play? But yeah, if Guile is anywhere near as bad as Nash for Zangief then it's just going to be necessary to pick up another character.
>>334819510
Nash/Gief is a really bad matchup.
Almost as bad as Sim/Gief.
HOW THE FUCK DOES ALEX PARRY WORK
>>334819946
This. Laura's "Bonita" alt alone probably got them the rating.
>>334819993
Yes, that's why I said he would probably switch for the matchup.
>>334818225
>trashing rashid's ost
fuck off tasteless retard
>>334820017
I think during startup/charge frames it'll parry one hit, and then immediately activate. I've held Sledgehammer, had a normal graze me, had the parry activate and then went through with the lariat before I even let go of the input. I also think that if you just input V-Trigger without holding it as an attack hits you you'll get a regular parry.
It's kinda finicky.
>>334819993
Honestly, Nash/Gief might be worse for gief. Almost everything Nash does is safe against Gief, and Nash's mobility makes keeping him in the corner impossible.
>>334820017
If you press the button it parries
If you hold the button it parries.
if you release the button after a parry you get a sledgehammer.
It's basically autoguard you can cancel by releasing early.
>He's literally exactly the same as sf4.
Wow just great.
>>334817935
i'd love to see Cammy with a crouch crawling like Mai had in some old fatal fury game, just to make my dick hard and low profile projectiles maybe
Good theme
Up there with Ryu and Ken's
>>334820269
It's Guile, literally what the fuck can you change about him that doesn't ruin his fundamental concept?
>>334817075
>that v-trigger
>>334820241
If you release the buttons after the parry, you cancel the charge, if you keep holding it, you'll release a clothesline.
>>334820269
>>334820358
Give him a long range poking special.
>>334817075
I had some optimism that Guile would be great in SFV but holy fucking shit he looks fucking godlike here.
>>334820387
Yes, I wasn't clear but if you release during the parry animation you won't get a clothesline.
>>334820461
He already has backfist and a plethora of other poking normals, why would you want that?
WHY IS ALEX SO FUN TO PLAY
>>334819803
He should just start maining Alex already, everyone but him sees it is a perfect fit
>>334820358
Air Sonic Boom
>>334820269
Good
>>334820520
Probably still not going to be over mid tier since the games meta is rushdown memes
>>334817075
>fighting in his blues
>sleeves out of regs
I liked Guile when he wasn't a rulebreaker.
>>334820630
>Nash
>Rushdown
The meta is poking
>>334820630
Those rushdown characters never had to deal with fireballs NOT intentionally designed to be shitty though.
>>334820461
Why? The entire appeal of Guile to many people is his simple specials and robust command normals, he really doesn't need any more specials. Plus what the fuck would a poking special even do for him? He has normals for poking and sonic booms for zoning he doesn't need another special.
>>334820604
Listen to me for a second here what about...
DIAGONAL SONIC BOOMS
>>334820585
Alex is sort of as shit as Gief but he has actual tools to deal with a lot of the shit Gief struggles with.
He loses a lot of damage and health for that though.
>>334819510
It's ironic that this is probably the best Gief has ever been but the rest of the roster is just so much better
>>334820585
Alex has problems with similar characters and is arguably worse against Chun for example. If he wants to play Gief then that' fine, but he needs to pick up someone that's decent against Gief's weaknesses such as Ryu.
>>334820269
You didn't play sf4 did you?>>334820307
>>334820630
Wait till Nuckledu starts playing him
>>334820782
t. 16er
>>334820819
A good player doing good with a bad character doesnt make the character good.
Snake eyes is obviously doing very well with gief and yet everyone is agreeing that gief is bad.
>>334820747
Alex shits out damage though, he feels much better than Gief to me. I'm a scrub though
>>334820782
This. I've never had as much fun playing Gief, and the setups and combos he has are way better than most incarnations. There's no actually bad characters in the game, but just Gief's the least good. I hope they can keep up this level of balance over time.
>>334820782
Alpha gief still exists.
Shit, most of Gief's SFV shit is from Alpha Gief.
>>334820947
Gief has the highest damage in the game, and for good reason.
>>334821064
>Gief has the highest damage in the game,
?
>>334820782
Zangief's best game isSFEXbecause that game has no dashes, body splash is super fat, autocorrect anti airs are extremely hard to pull off, and he can grab people out of block stun
>>334820942
Guile isn't a bad character though, just saying he can be played aggressively. That said I really don't see the "rushdown" meta you were talking about, seems more like people just poke each other until someone fucks up and gets hit by a crush counter into a big damage combo.
>>334821126
Have you ever been hit with st.fierce cc H SPD
Have you ever been hit with a CA combo
>>334821064
Gief may have the most damage from a single move, but the title of highest damage output (without meter usage) is Ryu.
>>334821180
>he can grab people out of block stun
Wait, wouldnt this mean he can just cancel buttons into SPDs for a 50/50 every time?
>>334821205
Zangief gets outdamaged by so many characters that it's not funny, especially since he has to take much bigger risks.
>>334821205
Well duh his SPD does a lot, but it seems like other characters can get almost as much damage while having waaaay more tools than gief
>>334821335
He can't grab out of block stun, that particular anon is retarded.
>>334821380
Agreed, feels like Ryu and even Bison do more damage once they get in. Ryu especially seems to do a fuck ton of damage off of easy BnBs while having great anti-airs and zoning.
>>334821404
>>334821261
Yeah and that's why he's shit.
He's got the highest damage but getting that damage is not easy.
>Try to play Gief
>Can't even win Gief mirrors against guys who've played less than I have
At least I can win with Birdie and Alex, who are probably some of the most fun characters I've played in any fighter. Gief can be one of my for-fun characters long with Sim and Rashid.
>>334821205
No because gief is easy as shit to play keepaway with, doubly so because I main fang
![608f659d30[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4CAl58p.jpg "608f659d30[1].jpg")
>A sonic boom cancels into 5 more sonic booms and an EX Flash Kick
How much damage is that even?
>>334820630
SF2 Guile was versatile and could rushdown. I suspect that SFV Guile has similar versatility. Fast recovery fireballs translates to great advancing options and Guile has always had fast walk speed and great normals.
>>334821752
With scaling probably not much.
>>334821752
380
>>334821752
His one handed sonic booms probably do jack shit for damage since they look smaller.
>>334818749
Awful taste
>>334821665
Birdie is fun until you meet people who know the match-up
I can only pray that Balrog andHondalook anywhere near as cool to playno mike ross memes please, I'm serious
>>334821679
My nigga, bullying Giefs with Fang is 2 easy, I almost feel bad. Its like he was designed specifically to fuck Gief over
He looks good. Which is bad.
Now every idiot under the sun is going to play him and i hate his fucking gay ass defensive play style. prob taking a break for a month until people start dropping him
>>334821752
it was done in the corner and at point blank. don't expect to land the ex flash kick after the 5 booms if your opponent is not cornered and you are close enough. it's gonna be very situational
>>334822083
Balrog's V-Skill better not be turn-around punch
I never cared for playing Guile but always had nothing but respect for people who did. No bullshit gimmicks, just solid pokes and zoning. Looking forward to learning the new matchup dynamic with my boy Roo.
>>334821335
>>334821421
My bad, I meant to say that since block stun is a lot shorter in EX than in other games, Gief can tick into his SPD and FAB a lot easier. It also works in the opposite way, Gief can SPD people out of their supers easily. He also has super stomping for actual combos and anti fireballs in that game
>>334822083
>Honda
Why do I see so many people saying he's in lately did something happen outside of the obviously comedic story mode cameo?
Other than Juri which SFIV newcomer do you guys want next? I'm partial to Hakan. I feel like his oil would make for an interesting v-skill/trigger mechanic.
>>334822583
>Roo
Oldfag?
>>334822702
He's a world warrior, he's in
>>334822812
If Hakan got in I'd love it.
>>334822812
Oil better not be his trigger unless his bar is small as fuck and only 1 portion
>>334822812
Decapre or a new Doll would be neat
>>334822812
>Hakan
pls no
I don't need another 10 years of James Chen saying "Hakan with oil is the best character in the game"
>>334822812
Gouken, but I don't play him like a fireball-heavy retard or the "right" way, so maybe I shouldn't want him back.
>>334822812
Abel and Seth were my favorite ones but with Alex and Urien already confirmed they could play too similar to each other, like how they cut Sagat with Ryu and Ken already in
>>334822812
Viper
>>334823062
Could just be his V-skill, dunno what the trigger would be
>>334818037
Are you in every fucking SFV thread fuck off
Capcom brought back 3ds guile the absolute madmen.
>>334823124
You've already got 10 years of Necalli with V trigger is the best character in the game
>>334818225
How THE FUCK do you hate on Rashid's theme
>>334823168
Abel and Seth don't even play remotely similar to Alex and urien you retarded fucking nigger
>>334820585
Snake Eyez considers Alex to be weaker than Gief, if we go for what he says during his streams.
He actually heavily implied that Alex's okizeme isn't scary AT ALL. He said that while he likes playing Alex, he probably won't pick the character for tournament play, because Alex and Gief bad match-ups overlap. And lets be real, he played Gief in super turbo, where the character is putrid shit, so he must have a thing for hairy Russian body builders.
>>334823286
FUCK
>>334818695
Can you even play that online with mods? Given online is server side wouldn't it pick up on tampered files?
>>334819993
Actually is is probably much worse than GiefxSim, because against Sim, if you score a knockdown, you can probably win right there, but against Nash it is meaningless because he has several ways to escape you, and cornering Nash is also meaningless, so if Gief can't use the corner, which is the place where he truly shines, then he has nothing.
>>334820269
>spot the idiot
>>334822812
Despite Seth not being my main in 4, I'd want him in as he's super fun to play around with.
>>334822863
Played him since SNES World Warrior.
Him and her have always been my mains. I like my generic karate people I guess.
>>334823062
v-skill could just give his next special oiled up effect, trigger gives him the extra mobility and all specials gain the oiled effect for the duration.Coward crouch turns into a mini ultra 2
>>334822812
I'd love Hakan. He, much like Juri, almost feels more-inclined to fit into SFV's systems than IV's. He's got some pretty sick pokes while Oiled, and the Oil mechanic feels built for the V-System.
Beyond him, though, I'd like to see what they would do if they took the El Fuerte design and totally redid the moveset to not be bullshit. I love wrestler characters, but even I admit Fuerte fucked the entire dynamic of SFIV fundamentally just by existing.
>>334823286
>Necalli with V trigger is the best character in the game
That's not wrong.
>>334818486
We take a long time to get involved in things
>>334823527
He didn't say anything wrong.
>>334823503
>online
>server side
Only matchmaking is done on the server, the actual match is P2P, and even then it would still work unless Capcom implement something like sv_pure
>>334823568
Hakan and Juri were basically built for the V-system. I want fuerte back too, just cause luchadors are badass and he was a crazy fun bastard. Shame he was relegated to meme status in 4 and probably won't come back. Then again Mika is in...
>>334819356
"april"
but judging by the tournament schedule i would assume the 25th
>>334823616
Well Necalli with trigger isn't Nash so it is
>>334823728
Oh. I didn't know that!
Well then, I'mma do mods later. Thank you for the heads up.
>V Trigger is that one meme super Strider has in MvC
What the fuck? Who let this happen?
>>334823916
>V-trigger lets him go full auto with sonic booms
I fucking love it, Murica/10
>>334818208
Nah senpai.
>pull off a flashy as fuck combo, put shades on
>shit is getting serious, take shades off
That taunt was the best in the game.
>>334823503
I got it running and it works perfectly.
Even has his own set of colors.
And a model for his alt costume, gives him a Terry Bogard style brown jacket.
>>334822812
Abel. Or Seth if I can't have him. but the only character i really want is T. Hawk
>>334818695
Fuark that looks boss. How do modders make better models than "professional" paid designers. He needs to do one for Ken.
>top gun guile
i approve
When's Hakan's wife
>>334824121
Does the other player actually see it or does it just help with your fucking retarded autism is my question.
>>334824174
You'll get the Native American doll who plays like a slower grappler Decapre in 4 years and you'll like it.
>WOW EPIC XD XD SUNGLASSES REDDIT
You fucks will drop him faster than you dropped Alex.
>>334824174
Abel is actually really popular, and he showed up in story mode so its pretty likely he gets in.
>V-skill is the roll
>>334824364
>Implying
I expect a lot of this faggots too but I've been in every SFV asking for Guile since before the game and dlc were announced.
Does EX flash kick move him backwards?
>>334824308
>qt Indian girl T-Hawk Decapre fusion
wouldn't even be mad
>>334824428
>They gave his kick imput to Laura for his V skill
I am still upset about this
>not remy
FUCK CAPCOM
>>334823672
If he had played any other street fighter game, he'd understand that the main concept of Guile has generally been consistent through the series.
he's speaking on ignorance, so he's anaverage /v/ poster
>>334821205
And CC st.fierce into st.fierce, v-trigger pull into CA
Or CC st.fierce, st.fierce, v-trigger hold into charged st.fierce, a very high damage meterless combo.
And seeing how positive st.fierce is on block, I don't see how "risky" it is, unless you whiff it.
Zangief has a good footsie game, his normals are pretty good, the reason he is shit isn't his damage or his buttons, it is because he has extremely shit mobility in a game that has so many quick characters.
If he had a better forward dash, like 19 frames instead of fucking 25 (seriously why? A character that must constantly move forward shouldn't have such a SHITTY dash) and a 4f or maybe 3f SPD, his ability to have a more scary way of closing in would make him way more viable.
>>334817075
OH MY FUCK
LIEUTENANT FUCKING GUILE
>>334824295
Yeah, I'm sure the game will just upload your files and then install them into your opponent's computer automatically every single match.
>>334817310
learn more than one character
SFV isn't a game where every character is equally balanced against every character, you will run into match up issues.
>>334824552
>remy
>when there are 4 more announced characters
>>334824537
I'm sorry anon, Laura really is pretty similar to him. Maybe he can get some new moves to make him more unique.
>>334824590
Lows crush st.fierce completely.
Honestly it's best use is as an AA (which he has plenty of now)
>>334824638
>yfw alt costume is him in full military getup
>>334824552
How does it feel to be the only person on Earth that remembers Remy?
His hair looks like ass. It's too wide.
>>334824779
Her whole game plan is set ups with her fireballs. That's nothing like abel.
>>334824638
he was a colonel
>>334824801
I feel nothing
>>334824843
The hell you say?
I'm tempted to main Guile for the first time ever, he looks really good
>>334825010
Guile looking like he shoved in an extra 20 muscles into his neck
>>334824859
>Her whole game plan is set ups with her fireballs
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
>>334818778
Stupendous did better at WCW then Snakeeyez did and got 9th well he got 17th.
Daily reminder SE isn't the only Zangief in the world just like in SF4 there was shit like Itabashi and some other japs. But yeah another American got further then him in a tournament for no Japs ffs.
>mfw I want Yun but only Japs do
I don't care if he even loses his divekick, I just want a proper tetsuzanko and upkicks.
>>334817075
Well. They actually managed to do a good job with him.
I'm surprised.
>>334825010
Niggas hair looks more like Adon's than Guile's
>>334824984
Do you think the squirrels perception of time slows down while it's cartwheeling through the air after being blown to bits?
>almost identical to sf4
>everyone talking like he is brand new
Have you guys never played street fighter?
Guile should've been in the base game.
> tfw Guile is so masc and sexy, and his biceps bulge out before he uses his super
>>334825181
Ita dropped Gief like a hot potato.
>>334824859
I mostly meant playstyle, they are both mobile grapplers who use command dash/rolls to close distance with a focus on mix-ups.
One of my mains is in the game now and he's still fully charge. I'm so ready.
So his V-Trigger is basically that one super Remy had?
>>334824781
From the range you normally do st.fierce, most lows won't even reach you, unless it is a sweep or a slide.
Stupendous and Snake Eyez use the button constantly during neutral, so you're clearly in the wrong here.
My point stands, Gief's buttons and damage are both fine, Capcom needs to focus on fixing his horrible mobility by buffing his dash and his SPD speed, maybe giving him a slight walk speed buff wouldn't hurt.
>Inb4 MUH GREEN HAND
No, I'd rather have those other buffs, the fwd.fierce, v-skill and lariat are enough to deal with fireballs, green hand would only help against fireballs, which isn't the problem right now, the problem is Zangief being SO FUCKING SLOW that everyone can bully him like he was the fat kid in gym class.
>>334825274
Shit is weird.
>>334825274
Guile has been the same since sf2 anon.
Any change at all is a big change.
>>334825274
>almost identical to SF4
/v/ should be banned from discussing fighting games holy shit
>>334824984
source?
>>334825274
Have you? Lots of new stuff in there, the v-skill stationary boom and forward moving charge, not to mention how offensive he gets in trigger.
>>334825201
The twins have ruined every game they are in. #BanTheTwins
>>334825274
Guile is a character that's had 2 Special Moves since 1991. Anything different at all is basically turning him into a brand new dude
>>334818975
>why does she
That's cause it's his sister
>tfw when you're fucking burch's sister
>>334825406
Green hand's main application was for forward movement and ending combos close to your opponent, the only fireballs GH would help you with are really obvious ones and then only the EX version.
>>334824590
A 3 frame or 4 frame SPD would make him the best character in the game. It will make your offense a mixup since if he mashes SPD during a frametrap he'll beat your 3/4 frame gap like in SF4 but it'd be even more mashable.
They'd need to nerf it's damage or range.
>>334825359
Welcome to 2 months ago I guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvHav3L_W4k
He almost instantly switched back...
>>334817075
Tell me. What's it like being in a constant haze of stupidity?
>>334825274
I don't remeber guile having spamable Sonic booms he can combo into a Flash Kick with.
Iam guessing that Sonic Boom trap was always there too?
Wow, they are learning.
>same character as SF4 now with rainbow edition v-trigger
>wow guile looks amazing i cant wait to play him for the first time
I hate it here.
