>buy $200 ssd
>install bunch of games
>no decrease in load times or performance
Are SSDs the ultimate meme?
>>334802950
retard
Depends on the game. Barely any difference in BF4, but it cuts TW3 load times from 40 seconds to 4 seconds.
It's your own fault for not understanding what the role of a secondary storage device is in the loading of games.
The problem is you and your worthless life
being PC gamer razor fag in 2016
>>334802950
Learn how and what your games are loading, and why.
An SSD isn't going to make your GPU preload shaders, lightmaps, and what the fuck else ever.
An SSD will make reading/writing saves, reading audio, and loading map data extremely fast.
I skipped an SSD and got another 8gb of memory. The worst load times are the first ones. Once a game is loaded, the next time I load it, its very fast. I don't mind the initial 30 seconds. Sub-TB harddrives, no ty.
Total War Attila is literally unplayable without an SSD.
>>334802950
I use it for FFXIV and Fallout 4 its pretty fucking useful tbqfh
>>334802950
You really need SSD's for games that have to load massive amounts of files. TW3, GTA V and Fallout 4 come to mind as games that give you massive load time improvements on a SSD.
In addition Grand Stategy Games ( Total War, Civilization, Europa Universalis, Crusader Kings ) really benefit from one due to the amount of data being saved, written and loaded.
Finally, having the OS on a SSD allows you to boot your computer at lightning speeds ( 6-12 seconds ) which is always nice.
Depends on the game and what it's loading.
I bought mine for the OS and that alone was worth it. Fantastic bootspeeds.
Also chucked Killing Floor 2 on there for a laugh, which loads very quickly.
>using it with sata2 motherboard
why no speed increase?
>>334804117
Enjoy your sluggish operating system and programs, peasant.
>>334804841
Cold boot to desktop is 30~ seconds. Cold boot to browser open is 45. Cold boot to Witcher 3 in-game is about 3 1/2 minutes. Maybe Sims 3 would benefit, but thats still not worth the price tag / low storage / higher failure rate of SSDs.
>still a bunch of stupid fuckers thinking SSDs are a meme
One of the best things you can buy for your PC
So basically SSDs are only good for mmos, third person games, and shooters?
>>334805489
Yeah, pretty much the three most popular video game genres.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/ssd950pro/overview.html
I'm going for this meme.
also, i'd steer clear of regular samsung SSD's in 2.5 formfactor, my 840 EVO 1TB ssd is dying from crippling performance issues affecting the entire system.
>>334802950
>>no decrease in load times or performance
what games are you trying?
Fallout 4 is practically unplayable without being installed on an SSD.
if a game is loading at the same speed, the bottleneck on the load time isn't the drive.
>it's a "my SSD didn't not make my gaem faster!" episode
Your computer does more than just play games. SSD's are great for load times, write speed, multi-tasking etc
High failure rate is a meme.
No moving parts vs moving parts
hmm, which will have the higher failure rate?
>>334802950
You're the ultimate fucking retard.
Stop posting permanently and then kill yourself.
>>334803016
Does it improve stuttering in Novigrad?
>>334802950
>no decrease in load times or performance
Why would you tell lies on the internet? Go search SSD vs HDD load times on youtube or Google.
As for performance, why would you think an SSD improves performance? No one has ever said this.
>>334805120
>Maybe Sims 3 would benefit, but thats still not worth the price tag / low storage / higher failure rate of SSDs.
Please consider suicide. You clearly are fucking retarded and should be purged from humanity
>>334805726
depends on which brand of SSD you get and which memory controller they use.
like the samsung EVO series has a 70% failure rate due to bad algorithms in file storage.
you'll lose more than 60% of the performance speed after 8 days of using the SSD. (once the problem first has started, if you reformat/rewrite the disc, after 8 days it'll be back to shit performance)
SSD improves loading times and do not translate to an increase in performance (FPS), the only place where you might get an increase in performance is for games that use procedural loading (openworld and MMOs).
>>334805726
SSD usefulness in order is
1. OS
2. Editing software (i.e photoshop, video editors, etc)
3. Web Browsers
4. Vidya
Also modern SSDs last literal decades, they're far outdated before they die
cuts load times by maybe 75%
of course, most people that consider an SSD already have a pretty tight PC, so we're talking shit like reducing a load time of 30 seconds to like 5 seconds, so whether that means anything huge is really up to you
>>334805826
Its a good example of a game with insane loading times.
> all the people in this thread not saging
/g/ go shill somewhere else
OP BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCItBX8288Y
>>334802950
SSD is for system.
>>334806004
Sage hasn't worked in ages you fucking moron.
So whats the point of an HDD then if you can just put everything on an SSD?
>>334802950
I bought a Samsung SSD and it got half the fucking advertised read/write speeds it was supposed to. I eventually dumped it and got a Crucial.
Even then the Samsung still cut my startup times by 75%.
>>334806176
uh huh keep believing that
>>334806262
>Unironically retarded
>>334804117
yesterday i had to use a computer without an SSD after having mine for over a year.
i forgot how fucking awful it was.
that 30 second wait before all startup programs finish loading to make system usable
that half a second delay after clicking on anything,
it took like 10 second to open the browser.
never again
>>334806223
HDD is good for mass storage and backups when you're not running it 24/7
>>334806284
sage still works you geek it just doesn't show any more
>>334805848
Why do people say this dumb ass shit?
>>334802950
>not having couple SSD in RAID 0 array to make them even faster
gotta go fast
>>334806868
Most are not optimized for raid 0 and it can cause drive failure.
i have samsung 830 and 840, both work fine.
motherboards can do TRIM on ssd raids now , so that's not a problem anymore if that's what you ment
>>334807350
the 840 had an issue where read speeds would degrade the longer it's been since the data was written to it.
The issue was supposedly fixed, but it may only be by rewriting the data from time to time, ending in a shorter lifetime.
However even with that, the SSD will last ages.
My 840 EVO was pretty expensive when I got it, but a different 256GB SSD right now wouldn't be expensive at all, and by the time I get my next SSD I'll get something even bigger for cheaper.
>>334806252
could be your motherboard is older and has slower sata2 connectors instead of sata3
You didn't buy shit, you're just fucking retarded.
And if you did buy it, you know fuck all about computing.
SSDs aren't a meme, they're legit good. You're just a fucking moron.
Kys you dumb reddit poster.
Is this the new "we can't see past 30 FPS anyway"?
>>334806223
HDDs have more storage space for now, but Samsung recently released 16TB SDDs for enterprise. When those hit the market and are reasonably priced/affordable, there will be no point to HDDs anymore and they'll be phased out.
Same way the disk drive outphased the floppy drive, and how flash memory is phasing out disk drives. As new tech is developed, other tech starts to become obsolete.
As it is now, you really don't need a regular HDD anyway. Most people have 2TB external drives anyway, as well as the cloud. A 128gig SDD is more than enough.
>>334807496
mine are working fine
830 for over a year, 840 for 4 months
have you used samsung magician?
it's sn official samsung program to setup and test ssd to make sure everything is working as it should.
>>334807619
Who needs less than 30 second load times anyway?
>no decrease in load times or performance
Load times depend entirely on the game.
There should be no decrease in performance.
It does make things a bit nippier, but not always noticeably so. You only really see the difference it makes in side by comparisons so it doesn't improve quality of life as dramatically as people make out. Hardly worth the price tag.
Handy for virtualisation though.
Installed FO4 on my SSD, it was like a new game, except the actually game itself, I mean that's irredeemable garbage but it loaded fast.
>>334807886
cloud relies on internet connectivity
it aint free to connect to that not even with a one time fee like just purchasing storage hardware
also hdds are cheap and one can never have too much space
>>334802950
>buy SSD
>fast read/write speeds at first
>1 year later, write speeds are now slower than a mechanical hard drive
SSDs are a shitty meme
>>334808424
HDDs will be a thing of the past in 4 years.
>>334808303
can confirm that,
locations load in couple seconds on ssd instead on half a minute on hdd
>>334806223
HDDs have the benefit of being incredibly cheap at the moment. SSDs are still relatively expensive, but they are steadily decreasing in price and will one day render HDDs obsolete.
>>334808470
mine is working for over a year and a half as fast as always
do some research next time so you dont buy crap
>>334808470
Mine is approaching two years in May and it's just as fast as the day I built my PC. Maybe you're just unlucky.
>>334808470
I hate this board. I hate this board so goddamn much.
>anything I can't afford is a shitty meme and I'll tell blatant lies to justify my stupidity
I refuse to believe that a board could be so collectively stupid, and hope it's just a bunch of bored teenagers shitposting during algebra class or some shit.
Goddamn, what the fuck happened to 4chan?
>>334808470
had the same ssd for going on almost 4 years now and ive never had this issue
>>334805120
>failure rate of SSDs
>falling for the /g/ meme
>>334808604
HDDs still give a significant amount of storage for low cost, they wont go away but SSD will become the norm.
>>334808921
It's just shitposting. Surprised they don't take this stuff to /g/
>>334804604
>boot your computer at lightning speeds
But retard, I leave my computer on for months
>the fuck do i need boot times for
You guys should get the Link Shell Extension, helps making sym links
>>334808029
Only way to see if your 840 is fucked up, is via HDTune.
Samsung Magician and all other benchmarks showed the drive as totally ok, when the reads and writes in reality were somewhere along 5MB/s at worst.
But if you have the latest firmware, then everything should be fine.
I have two 840s and the firmware problem was very real with both of them.
After two firmware updates, it did sort of fix the problem.
>>334803016
I had huge improvement in BF4. from like 45 seconds to 12 to load an average map.
>>334809492
you sure that TRIM is working?
http://lifehacker.com/5640971/check-if-trim-is-enabled-for-your-solid-state-drive-in-windows-7
also do you have over-provisioning
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/whitepaper/whitepaper05.html
i remember reading these two things could make ssd slower over time
>>334809019
http://gizmodo.com/samsungs-16tb-ssd-is-now-an-actual-thing-people-can-buy-1762536707
HDDs can't do 16TB. Expect this to drop in price considerably over the next 4 years.
When SDDs are outdoing HDDs for the same price, they'll make HDDs totally obsolete.
I've managed to convince everyone I know who wanted an ssd to trash the idea. Ssd's are the biggest meme. My pc boots up in 11 seconds using msi fast boot and I'm sure there are free bios mods that can allow other people to do the same. Also games are so massive now at like 50gb per AAA title that you'll only be able to put about 3 games on a standard, cheap 120gb ssd.
What games did you install on it? You should probably have a basic idea of how computers work before you try to decide which games will benefit from an SSD and which will not.
>>334808470
You're just baiting but if anyone else has a similar problem most respectable brands will replace it for free.
>>334810042
I've just filled up my 256GB one as Dark Souls 3 came out this week, which is a pain.
>>334810042
Bait
>>334810042
/v/
>VR is a meme that'll flop in two years
/g/
>SDDs are a meme that'll flop in two years
/ic/
>tablets are a meme that'll flop in two years
/o/
>EVs are a meme that'll flop in two years
I'm surrounded by morons. What are other examples of stupid shit spread around in other boards by poorfags?
>>334809908
This had nothing to do with those things.
The whole 840 line was fucked right from the beginning.
Everything was fine for some time, then reading the old data got slow as shit for everyone.
Then Samsung applied the first fix, it worked for a little while, then the drives slowed down again.
After some time they realized that there's a fundamental problem and applied a new firmware update, which basically constantly refreshes your data on the background.
If you don't have the EXT0DB6Q firmware, then your drive is fucked when it comes to reading the old data, even if most benchmarks show it as just fine.
>>334803143
>people unironically think that games belong on platter drivers
Holy fucking shit, neo/v/ is real.
>>334810501
SSDs were a massive meme 2 years ago.
Prices and capacity have finally reached reasonable levels.
>>334810501
I never in my life seen /g/ say a bad word about SSDs, bar certain, failing ones.
>>334810501
it's almost like 4chan was full of bitter assholes conditioned on failure
>>334810813
Except, it was a developing technology? Everyone KNEW they'd get better eventually. Idiots were just shitposting over the obvious. But for tech to succeed, you gotta have early adopters.
Is /v/ gonna backtrack about VR like this in two years?
I have no issues with mine.
>>334802950
No the ultimate meme is going to be 4k
>No percievable difference unless you play with your eyes touching the screen
>Massively impacts performance, pushing your machine harder than it needs to
>Screens are insanely expensive
don't buy the meme. Also VR is going to be a meme but I feel like most of /v/ is aware and not stupid enough to fall for it.
>REEEEE I CAN ONLY FIT 2 VIDYAS ON AN SSD AND IT DIDN'T EVEN SPEED THEM UP!
>Not running a 32gb ramdisk and just pre-loading your games to it.
>>334810259
>Bait
Which retard would honestly spend fucking £150 on an ssd which would increase his boot load times by 5 seconds and only have the capacity for 2 games? This beyond stupid. For content creation software it's understandable to purchase an ssd but to buy one to get a 1 second better loading time on fucking cs:go and other games is pointless.
Most of the replies in this thread are full of retards who don't know for computers work.
Shouldn't you be in class by now?
>>334811005
"VR" aka screens strapped to people's faces has been pushed for decades and all they have really added to improve on that is motion sensing controllers.
I'm not holding my breath for cardboard.
>>334811501
There's the problem where games are more than 32GB.
>inb4 64GB and server mobos
>>334811519
Wait, people actually shut down their computers?
>>334811519
>I only play CSGO
Summer /v/, ladies and gents
>>334811745
Never.
>>334811682
I fail to see the issue
>>334811837
>implying casuals won't buy an ssd, gtx 980 ti, i7 and 16gb ram to just play cs go
>>334811591
I am retarded. Headtracking was not possible, the FOV was shit, and the screens literally hurt your eyes.
VR as it is now does its job properly at immersing people. The downside is the screendoor effect, but >>334811369 4k is not a meme you retard, 4k is necessary for VR.
Quit being so mad because you can't afford VR. You should be glad early adopters are buying that shit in droves so the tech is developed and it's made more affordable.
And stop with your Matrix bullshit. That sort of shit will never be possible in your lifetime you imbecile.
>>334810501
/k/
>AKs are a meme and aren't reliable.
>>334812127
You've got a point there.
CS players are complete retards.
>>334812282
Added to the list.
>>334809023
I don't anymore because startup is so quick it's unnecessary. Saves on the electricity bill and keeps the room cooler.
>>334812258
Can you reply to posts normally please.
>>334812532
What exactly was wrong with his post?
>>334812258
Yes high resolution is needed for VR, but as VR is at the moment, there's no reason anyone should be buying it. I'm not buying VR because I don't want to spend money on something that's not going to have any games because there's only a very small niche who's gonna spend that kind of money on it and then devs will shy away because there's nobody with VR units and the vicious cycle continues.
4k is still a meme on a regular screen. Don't be a dumb nigger, you only need 1080p for now.
>>334812258
Can't use vr for
Moba
Fps
Rpg
Mmo
Rts
What would you even play besides shitty mobile games?
>>334812748
VR has plenty of games, just no notable exclusives. I agree it's not worth buying right now, but anti-shilling is only gonna hurt the development of the product. In a couple years, a decent headset should fall in the affordable range of $200.
SSDs are for OS only, retard.
>>334812968
You can use VR for all those, but only RPG and FPS really benefit from it. Maybe strategy.
Also FPS and RPG are playable in VR. Nearly every major game from this and last gen has VR support, whether official or not.
Check out Battlefield 4
https://youtu.be/aTtfAQEeAJI
>>334814131
That looks terrible.
>>334802950
>SSD
>for games
>not for OS's, CAD, BIN and other modeling programs
>>334815110
>I'm fat
Ok
>>334815829
Says the guy who needs video games to exercise.
>not buying a normal hard drive for the load time nostalgia
>>334802950
>no decrease in performance
and that's a bad thing?
>>334802950
Eu4 seems to have much faster loading after getting a SSD.
>>334815967
I lift faggot. I don't mind getting some cardio in while I shoot up some niggas. Get /fit/ or get cucked, fatass.
>>334805769
That's has nothing to do with your HDD/SSD.
>>334808470
I had an OCZ (mind you this was the shittiest SSD company) for three years and I started getting read errors and my read/write speeds are still the same as avertised senpai.
>>334802950
if you have many mods in oblivion, I tell you it finaly makes it run 60fps all the time, nehrim too
i thought it was mostly a graphics problem but it isn't, no framedrops anywhere anymore
>>334816496
>implying Kingston isn't the shittiest one
