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FromSoft lets you get the ultimate weapon very early in the gameWhy would they do that?


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>FromSoft lets you get the ultimate weapon very early in the game

Why would they do that?
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git gud
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>>334790752
>a katana is the best weapon
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>>334790752

Coulnt you post your weebshit complain in one of the thousands other threads on /v/
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because the western philosophy of hiding the best shit until you have 2 hours of the game left is really fucking stupid. abilities, weapons and so on should in most cases be available from the start, because if your game's difficulty hinges on those thing then you have already failed.
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both the longsword and the estoc are better and you can start with them
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>>334790752
>low durability
It's not even worth it
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d3rk slos
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>still playing dark souls 3 after all those mexicans infested the game with the mexican price glitch
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>>334790918
>namefag
>right to bitch
pick one
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To empower the player in face of overwhelming hopelessness.

Webm related. Me with Uchigatana.
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>>334791183
I used it to clear the game and it didn't even break once. Durability is a joke in this game
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>>334791384
>dumb tumblr gif poster can't tell the difference between tripfags and namefags
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>>334790752
kek gg, but thats not a claymore.
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>>334791183
>low durability
out of every fucking complaint
you certainly haven't played das3 if you think durability matters in the slightest.
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>>334790752
The game isn't about powering up, it's about becoming better as a player.
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>>334790752
Is this the glorious nippin steel folded 1000 times ?
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>>334790937
i just don't see the point in rewards given that will see seldom use.

so having SOME strong shit hidden but available early in the game is awesome.
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>>334791384
jasmine is so fucking hot
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>>334791739
it's about both you faggot
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>>334791739
>R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1
>win
dude i got gud xD
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>>334791739
is that why you start with a longsword, lel
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>30 invasions
>never lost to a straight sword/katana fag
pyros are scary though
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>>334790752
>walk over there while exploring
>naked man with a katana is standing there
>approach him to see if he's friendly
>he walks off the cliff
>o-okay
>come back and his sword and rags are there
Too bad the Uchi moveset is boring. Loved it in DaS1, not so much 2.
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>ultimate weapon
topkek
You find a sea of better weapons 2 hours into the game.
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>>334791183
Durability really doesn't mean anything in this game. The only time I've ever gotten a durability warning was when I played the same level 7-8 times as a phantom.
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>>334790752
Wait.. where? I'm 10h in and never seen it. I'm at castle where those wormy undeads are.
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God Tier:
Short Swords
Piercing Swords
Katanas

Great Tier:
Curved Swords
Reapers

OK Tier:
Spears
Hammers
Maces
Axes

Bad Tier:
Great *
Halberds

Stop Tier:
Ultra Greatswords
Fist Weapons
Whips
Ranged Weapons
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>>334790752
That's not how you spell lucerne
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i pumped str, realized i didnt like the str str weapons much then came upon the dranghammers. Now im a tornado with maces stapled on. I tried the right pontiff eye ring and the carthus beacon for that multihit bonus but the beacon seems so minimal a boost, duration is too short, and doesnt meret the 2 slots and 14 in magic and faith at all. Whats the point of it?
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>>334792503
The notched whip is fucking godly if you use it right. Especially against naked dex dodgers.
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>>334791384
I want to see her fart in the bathtub
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>not the Chaos Blade
lel git fucked
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>>334792503
I can press R1 in repetition tier:
Estoc
Katana
Dark Sword

Shit tier
the rest
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>>334790752
>shit compared to just about any straight sword
>shit compared to just about every other katana except maybe the Bloodletter, but even that is useful as a better Black Crystal
>shit compared to any good quality weapon
>shit compared to Estoc
>shit compared to most curved swords
It sucks
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>>334792503
Are fist weapons really that bad? I planned making build with them.
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>Summoning for Dancer
>Almost 50% of the Phantoms have Mighty Ketena Folded 10000 Times
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>>334792331
A bit before firelink
Theres a naked undead guy that drops it when dead
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>>334792503
shotel?
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>>334790752
Not even close

Damage + Length + Speed + Moveset are the most important factors and all the Katana's fail on one end or another. The best of the katana's is the washing pole but even then its not great.

But weapon classes are all over the place, there are lots of good dex/strength weapons and lots of good and bad weapons within weapon groups which makes it all a bit messy.
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>>334792878
>Summoning for Dancer
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Is the Laito in the game?
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>>334792503
Literally everything you said is absolutely incorrect.

Well done, 10/10 bait
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>>334792807
is there a weapon that doesn't involve hitting R1 consecutively? please let me know.
oh and are there rings in the game that rely on consecutive hits??? okay, let me know, thanks.
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I'm having fun killing people using Anri's sword.
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>>334792990
>L
I think I'm biting the bait
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>>334793078
No
Yes
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>>334792503
Elder God Tier:
Murakumo
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>>334790752
Nigga my Carthus Curved Sword's doing better damage than that.
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>Acceptable katana users

Anyone who uses Master's attire
Anyone who uses Eastern Set
Anyone who uses no armor at all

>Unacceptable Katana Users
Literally anything else
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>>334790918
Go back sucking Polack dick, faggot tripfag.
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>>334790752
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>>334792878
>>Summoning for Dancer
kys
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III does a great job of making any weapon you choose a viable weapon. Pretty much failed at every other part of combat though.
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>>334792869

So far there are two fist weapons i seen, caetus and a fire variant. The caetus is pretty shit, its l2 is worthless and cant stun or have much range at all. The fire variant has a flaming double lariat as the l2 but im not sure how strong it is. The mannikin claws dropped from a npc invasion seems ok, quickstep is the l2 more range than the fists, and scales better with dex i think. Overall fist weapons are majorly weakened from the da2 days
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>>334793141
feel free to name the weapon where you don't need R1 to win duels.
i'll be waiting all night long.
and the second question was rhetorical, illustrating the purpose behind R1 attacking.

it's like people complaining about the AWP. get fucking good.
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>>334792869
Bad poise damage in general, very low damage. They use little stamina and you can hit quite a few times with them before running out, but your range is also abysmal.

I made a fists only character in DaS2 and had a whale of a time. The little I've experimented with the fist weapons in DaS3 (and I have most of them), I haven't been too impressed. They could do with a bit of a buff. Manikin Claws were fun to use on the odd NPC invader/armorless trash enemy, though.
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Muh dick bix nood mufugga
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>>334793114

Is that the blueblood sword of this game?
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>>334793194
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>>334792878
>Hosts summing me for ballsack tree
>75% are using the homeless katanaman sword
>Gets slam-jammed by the tree
Every fucking time and it never gets old
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>Estus heals you instantly again instead of slowly like 2

Th-thanks A-team
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>>334793325
Look at my answers again.
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>>334790752
>used the uchigatana
>bosses took multiple tries
>stunlocking was decent
>lost most PvP matches
>switch to a strength build starting with an axe
>beat each boss in a single try
>PvE using the Greataxe
>most enemies die in 1 hit and if they don't they are stunlocked for the 2nd hit which SHOULD finish them off
>PvP using the Smough's Great Hammer
>can beat 3 invaders together without any backup
>only lose to players with an extreme lag advantage
So no, I wouldn't even come close to calling it the ultimate weapon.
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>>334792141
>Too bad the Uchi moveset is boring.

The stance is fucking amazing, though.
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>>334793078

Yes, dual weapons have you spamming L1 instead
Yes, theres a ring and a spell that stacks for buffing consecutive hits obviously designed for said dual weapons. The spell is a but shit though
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>>334793325
yeah okay I'm biting. Remove jumping attack r2 charges, running r1 rolling r1 spacing blocking parrying spacing and forget about these new weapon arts.

Lets just grab havel and whatever estoc or dark sword and mash that r1. Yeah sure there is a lot of room in getting good there.

Been playing since Des, actually in Des there was more than just mindlessly mashing r1 for victory.
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>>334793526

I tried the greataxe, i didnt like the massive stamina drain too much
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>ED-- with split damage
>Ultimate weapon
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>>334793325
>it's like people complaining about the AWP
Except the AWP in CS requires some bit of skill while mashing R1 with a Dark Sword or Estoc just requires you to know where the buttons are on your controller because that's all that is needed with those weapons since you can facetank your opponent because hitting him at least once will guarantee you can stunlock him and kill him with 1/4 of your stamina bar
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>>334793526
whats your strategy with the fatty hammer? I'd love to use something like that in pvp effectively
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>>334790752
>Not just beating scrubs with the longsword
Seriously, feels like Bloodborne all over again; in that the starting weapon is the best overall.

I've wreaked 6 invaders in my first 8 hours all while just suited up with starting gear.
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>>334793916
Roll, roll, roll, roll, backstep, strafe right strafe left, backstep, roll then R1.
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>>334790752
man, 2h moveset for it is shit
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Dark Sword, Firelink Greatsword, Butcher Knife, Halberd, Lucerne, Gundyr's are the most OP weapons iv tried so far.

Firelink, Halberd and Butchers are definitely the top.
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>>334794074
for some reason this made me laugh really hard
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>>334793294
>>334793372
I see. Thanks. Yeah fist build was great fun in DaS2.
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>killing the helpless merchant for his curved sword that's also his only friend

cheap bastard
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>>334790752
>not washing pole
if you gonna go weeaboo faggot go big or go die
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>>334793372
>tfw literally spent dozens of hours with an ultra light armor quality dual caestus character in das2
>everything that was good about that build in pvp is now gone in das3

literally causing me physical pain to think about
at least they kept the based partizan moveset
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On my 3rd character.

Dark sword is objectively the best weapoin in game. Period.

I know it sucks, and it's boring meta shit, but it is.
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>Heavy Cathedral Knight Greatsword
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>>334794054
>he started with the longsword and not a fucking club
fucking scrub
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>>334790752
that would be the estoc or anri's sword.
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>>334794312
do i look like a filthy poor peasant caveman? thought so.
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>>334794278
Butcher is the most OP weapon. It has a better moveset, faster and longer range than Dark sword. Also scales better.

Yes, its that OP.
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>>334790752
Coulnt you post your weebshit complain in one of the thousands other threads on /v/
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>>334794312
based deprived homeless bum bro
>roleplay as a hungover homeless alcoholic that just woke up in a graveyard with no memory of the night before, and just kinda stumbles into a variety of ridiculous trouble
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>>334793695
104 stamina gives you enough to use R1 twice then dodge away. After 2 hits you lose stunlock so you want to be dodging away at that point anyways.

>>334793916
2 handed mode R1 has a wide swing and what appears to be super armor. If they fall victim for your first swing, you get a free 2nd hit which will either leave most players with very little health, or flat out kill the ones too foolish to invest heavily in HP. It is the bread and butter, although you should definitely learn to use the other moves too. Have 108 stamina so that you can have 3 swings, or 2 and a dodge. For anyone using a shield, you will teach them to put that shield away.
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>>334794348
i find it too easy to parry since a lot of invaders use its jumping attack
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>>334794508
Shouldnt judge a weapon off how bad people use it. Fact is that Butcher's blade is OP as shit.

Needs a speed nerf for sure.
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>>334794347
you'd have to post your character before any judgement could be passed
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>>334794173
Me too
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>>334794189
The run for iaito is always going to feel better.
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>>334790752
I'd prefer this rather than getting the best weapon at the very end of the game.
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>>334794348

>It has a better moveset

Arguable.

>faster

I don't think that's true at all.

>Also scales better.

Quality DS > Butcher. Quality DS is by far the best bang for your buck in terms of stamina drain and damage.
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>>334794541
I agree. I actually got frustrated with it on my first playthrough since it made the game feel too fucking easy. Went and rerolled a spearman and haven't looked back.
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How is the zweihander in pvp? I haven't found it yet and I am kinda curious if it is worth going out to find.
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>>334794576
true, especially because you upgrade you weapons
it's nice to not have to waste anything, and also to grow in power alongside your weapon
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>>334790752

>uchifag invades me in Undead Settlement
>i shank him with the AXE OF THE DEEP because it swings faster
>try to bait me with his parry
>toss him a firebomb and falls off the cliff

Axe of the deep is way better, assuming you start as knight so you can use it.
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So quality build is basically the meta build for the current state of the game, right? Faith and Int suck unless you invest like 60 points and strength is pretty underwhelming because of the underpowered UGS's.
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Why is claymore so shit this game, literally half way through game I went and made dex chara cause claymore felt so suffering and refuse to get dark meme weapon
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>fatrolling is changed from 50% to 70%
>the pros for using fatroll is decreased from 50% extra weight to 30%
They really want you to mid roll inthis game
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>>334794609
>Arguable.
Its not, the Butcher moveset can do the same things as the DS as well as different moves DS cant.

>I don't think that's true at all.
You think =/= fact. Fact is Butcher is faster.

>Quality DS > Butcher. Quality DS is by far the best bang for your buck in terms of stamina drain and damage.
Firstly, moving the goalposts. Second, no, the stanima drain difference is nearly negligible.
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>>334794541
i think the only op thing i consider is the hornets ring since pvp boils down to parry fests it really makes you oneshot most people
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>>334794716
>How is the zweihander in pvp?
You'll hit the host once and then he'll start hitting you a billion times with Dark Sword R1 spam as you finish your swing and kill you in 4 hits because his Dark Sword has a higher AR than your Zweihander.
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>>334794768
Claymore's fine.
>pokes for armoured targets
>swings for CC
>no bullshit weird arts
Refine and +9 that shit and you've got a fucking good weapon.
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>>334793194
Holy fuck that so fucking true.
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>>334794868
well shit
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>>334794721

>axe of the deep

What is this? The small axe you get from the dunce cap midgets?
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>>334794986
The tower on the High Wall that the dragon's trying to prevent you from going in.
It's got a mimic that drops a Deep Battle Axe.
Fucking good weapon for early game.
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>>334794986

the axe you get from the Mimic in HWoL in the tower with the Dragon.
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>>334794773

>Firstly, moving the goalposts.

Nope, just arguing for the maximum potential DS (which is quality, not strength) versus maximum potential Butcher (which is strength). If you want to compare them both when using +10 and a str build, the Butcher still loses out in damage by significant margin.
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>>334794945

>Refine and +9 that shit and you've got a fucking good weapon.

It's fine until you realise that, when upgraded to +10, it does only marginally more damage per swing than a straight sword.
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So how do i find fume sword
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>>334795341
Yeah, so?
I like my claymore.

>>334795394
Demon ruins. Find and kill the guy who stole Tarkus' armour.
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>>334795394
It's in area filled with a million basilisks and then you have to fight an NPC
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I just found the gargoyle fire scepter. This seems like a maximum fun weapon. Is it viable for pvp?
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>>334795259
Should I bother with pyromancy or any other magic if I went with quality DS build? (yes I did it before it became popular). I was thinking about picking up the pyro fire weapon buff or power within but not sure if it's even worth it.
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Which spear is best spear?
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>>334795625
Swordspear
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>>334795540

I mean, using the pyro sword buff at 10/10 isn't too bad if you have a fully-upgraded flame. It's definitely better than DMB/lightning blade.
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>>334791575
>can't tell the difference between soda and liquid

tripfags fall under namefags you fucking retard.
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>>334795537
If you like using it, it's viable.
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>>334795735

Is cathus beacon or power within good?
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>>334790752
>what is zweihander
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>>334795764
Up until a katana running attack abusing kid wrecks you.
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>>334795827
The Pontiff's Right Eye with Gotthard's Twinswords is ridiculously OP so I imagine stacking it with Carthus Beacon would be even more so. Not sure if it's worth the extra 4 levels though.
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>Use the spear the knights drop in the first area
>Think its meh but like the moveset and the cloth hanging off it
>The charges and backstep->long thrust completely demolishes people online

Is the spear actually good or are people just that bad?
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>>334791575
See >>334795747.
Also it is not like either of them have a reason to exist, except in very specific kinds of threads.
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>>334795827
Beacon is crap. It's barely usable with fast hitting dual weapons. Classic weapon buffs like lightning buff are still the best.
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What is the best str weapon on this game
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>lifehunt scythe gone
>only have the regular scythe+10 and Frost Scythe+5
>Stick mostly to my FarronGS+5
well, I guess it's still fun but I loved the LHScythe from 1. Maximum fun
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>>334795625
Dragonslayer by far.
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>>334795871
Just because meta shitters are spreading their cancer doesn't mean you have to add to it.
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>>334795923

The buff takes 2 slots, higher requirements, shorter duaration 30 secs i think, weak initial bonus and weak maximum bonus that is further devalued by its short duration. Maybe im not using it right or maybe my flame isnt strong. Can anyone confirm?
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>>334793916
Roll R1.

I use the great club, grass crest on the back.

Its fairly good if you're desparate and need to block, but roll around like a fruit and roll + r1 is a real nice sweep.
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Why is the darksword a meme weapon? Is it meant to be great for PvE because of the scaling? Because it's fucking shit in PvP, I've never lost to a darksword fag and I still use that Deep Battleaxe from fucking highwall.
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>>334796073
life hunt sythe is a spell now casual
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How do I git gud at pvp?

I've been invading a ton and hanging out embered to get invaded and summoning mound makers constantly. I usually win 1v1s but unless I get lucky with mobs and/or plunge attack I get my shit pushed in super hard against 2+v1. I assume most of my wins are because lolestoc. Been trying to practice parrying but unless they're mashing r1 and I get the first hit blocked I can't get the timing down.
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>Want to dick about with magic
>Oh yeah the MLGS is in

>D/E/C
>Split damage
>Can't be Infused or Buffed

For what purpose.
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>>334795871
>Implying

They always stop it after ten minutes of me rolling past them, then they mess up in their frustration.
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>>334793502
gay

>>334793646
i can't do R1 spam against people with Farron's or against people who know how to use shields properly.
i use all that shit with Estoc, not just R1 spam, doesn't work on everyone.

>>334793759
"some bit of skill" yeah, just a tiny bit, the ability to aim at something and shoot, whoa.
also, good luck face tanking someone with a shield and heavy armor.
you can't trade blows with an Estoc, trust me, i've tried.

basically straight sword haters expect people who use these weapons to only poke once and dance around like a clown, i guess that is preferable?
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>>334796349
PvP fags demanded 'balance'.
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>>334793325
>feel free to name the weapon where you don't need R1 to win duels.
Gotthard's Twinswords
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I'm a professional cowboy and I use catheters. Been cowboyin for 40 years and I know pain and I don't want anymore of it. Especially when I cath.
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>>334790752
Stupid Baka Gaijin, everyone knows that folded japanese steel could cut through knights armer like butter and when nippon invaded europe in 1308 they conquered and defeated the foolish stupid bakas and formed the grolious empire of europon
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>>334796229
Because new players cannot parry, arguably older ones cant too, either they dont wield a shield or they lag. It has a real good stat gain and is easy + fast to use.

It's Dark souls 3 zweihander.

I would argue a lot of people familiar with the games are more interested in other weapons + ring combo's, rings can do a shittonne in pvp
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>>334796139
This. DaS2 was already fucked thanks to blacksteel nuthin personnels shooting hexes out of their ass and flipping in havels. Don't start it on 3
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>Status bonuses
>E
>D
Garbage
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>>334796478
>look guys, i'm not using R1!
>presses a button that does the same thing as R1
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>>334796531
Ah yes of course, the invasion of Europe was Emperor Hanazono's first edict when he ascended to the throne as I recall.
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>>334796538
Well you say that but I don't use a shield. I just really feel like the range is too short to be such a popular weapon.

Like I can see perfectly why Farron Memesword was a thing, but I don't get this, it's too easy to counter.
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>>334796630
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>>334791739
I started with Herald and beat Sonic the Hedgehog with the spear on my first attempt. All that Bloodborne skill transfer man.
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Nodachi and dark blade are better.
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>>334796735
dang you got me.
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>>334796353
but estoc r1 spam works on shielded opponents. It should not, but holy fuck it does.
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Personally I've been smashing people with Murakumo. If they R1or parry spam or try to Uchifag stance bait the weapon art eats their lunch. Dancers Twinswords are nice too, most dickwraiths dont prepare for two elemental damage types and the moveset is nice and varied.

All else fails Farron Greatsword 2 handed L1 is usually a safe bet and its got a decent parry too.
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>>334796828
I see people just wailing on shields with their weapon all the time, like why don't you just kick?

You can see the fag relies on his shield too much and you can even kick mid combo if you want to hit R1 a few times first to make sure he's still going to block.
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is there any halberd better than the halberd?
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>those faggots who parry spam and running attack spam
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>>334796786
seriously I think you're much better coming from Bloodborne then you are the Souls series.

I had real trouble getting to grips with the speed and movement of the rolls when first coming into the game, they are a lot more fluid and fast akin to bloodborne, which I barely played.

(just wasn't a fan of lovecraftian and the CLUTTER)
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>>334792869
I wanted something fast on my strength guy so I got the fire fists and they're great, not so good at PVP and worse than regular weapons, but they're fun to use
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>I chose the Wolf greatsword over the Farron greatsword

I literally got cucked
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>>334796930
kick = getting stunlocked to death by r1 mashers.
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>two handing your shield and bashing a spammer off a fucking bridge
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>>334796930
Most people who turtle up on me always backpedal or try to kite me to enemies like the insufferable shitters they are so I can't ever get a kick in. The amount of invaders hiding behind AI is infuriating.
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>>334791537
Its useless, because your weapons replenish at bonfires.

I fought Oceiros 5 times yesterday and it almost broke my weapon. 15/50 remaining
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>he doesn't 2h a katana the whole game

GET FUCKING GOOD
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>>334790752
thats not boring eztoc or ice rapier whatever its called

stab stab stab stab stab stab stab
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>>334797036
Nah m80, Farron GS is shit and only interesting for the meme moveset
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>>334790752
Are you fucking serious?

Other than the bleed effect this weapon is terrible.
Range is god awful and the move set is the absolute worth.
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>>334790752
>want to do coop at the rooftops before Anor Londo since i like fighting the silver knights with people
>get invaded by red faggot
>pop giant tree seed to try it out
>doesnt do jack shit
>blue faggot joins and doesnt get debuffed by the giant tree seed because from are fucking idiots
>both double team and stun lock me to death with dark swords
i fucking hate this community
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>>334797131
>two handing any weapon with no str scaling
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>>334796538
Which is irritating considering they brought back + rings for no real reason. Now I have to waste Boss Souls for better Havel Rings instead of settling on getting every weapon in the game, or go and look for the better ones in NG+

Also their new fucking covenant choices are a bit irritating
>3 variants of the Forest Hunters
>No Gravelord equivalent
>Included both Darkmoon and Blue Sentinels instead of keeping just one in
Filthy blues; really wish we had working Gravelording, it would be glorious.
>inb4 Red Phantom Curse Spider-things
>mfw
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>>334797063
Read the last half of my second sentence.

>>334797097
Ahh, the shieldfags I find are the ones who hold their shield up while they try to fish for backstabs.

Here's a tip, the straightswords and a few greatswords have the "stance" ability, the R1 with this is a guardbreak and works wonders usually and should work wonders on those fags too.
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>>334790752
Dark Souls Boardgame Kickstarter, Today 8pm GMT!
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>>334797203
>Using weapons with shit weapon arts.
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>>334797251
>Curse Spider-things
That fucking thing in Cathedral of the Deep and how fucking silent it is while dropping behind you

Literally peenus weenus tier
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>>334797251
>3 variants of the Forest Hunters
>3

I'm seeing this stated everywhere and I thought people were just exaggerating like typical /v/ fashion but I'm seeing it way too often.

What's the third? There's Wolf fags, Uldritch fags and?
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People talking shit bout my uchi?
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>>334797257
Ahhhh. Murakumos spinning weapon art is decent for breaking guards too if you land it and extend with R2. Thanks for the tip too
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>>334797441
And that's it. There's only 2, it's just people being faggots
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>>334794749

Greatshield + estoc is OP as shit. Switch to target shield when applicable for fun parry time.
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>>334797251
They got rid of interesting covenants for a lot of the same thing, I would argue even the rat's in 2 are a lot more interesting then the same red phantom, different color set that we have at the moment.

Not going to lie I was pretty annoyed when I saw things other then weapons to transmod, I know its to increase replay but not sure this was the way to do so.
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>>334790752
who /faith/ build here? what weapons are you using?
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>>334792141
You loved the DaS1 Uchi but think the DaS3 iteration is boring when it has the exact same moveset, plus a rolling R2, a follow-up standing R2, the Iaido's gap-closer and a parry?
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>>334797710
I'll save you time. Everyone will either answer "I'm using a garbage weapon that sucks" or "I'm using the Dragonslayer Swordspear and Sunlight Sword"
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>>334797710
I was at first but then respeced because they get no fucking miracles besides heals for fucking ages and I missed the area behind the gate that had lightning spear.
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>>334797276
http://steamforged.com/dark-souls-kickstarter/
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>>334797710

Talisman
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>>334797710
Large club. Strong a lightweight, you can rock the cleric garb set and the club without investing in additional points in Vitality. Not the most RP friendly but I feel if youre going to rock a faith/str character you best be using a hammer
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>>334797873
yeah it was pretty suffering until i managed to get lightning blade. basically just got carried with a raw sword for the first half of the game until then.

faith definitely doesn't pick up until 30+ or so, though.
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>>334797710
just a blessed bastard sword
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>>334796985
>parrying is easier than ever in PvP
>all these faggot Dark Sword and Estoc niggers just running up to me and trying to mindlessly mash R1 because they're scrubs and forget they have other buttons on their controller
>almost always land the parry on their 1st or 2nd attack
>hornet ring guarantees that the one parry is all I need to shut them the fuck down as they realize mindlessly mashing a button and hoping to win doesn't work
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>>334791980
DSIII in a nutshell
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>>334797710
I think Faith could really use a melee type of casted miracle. Magic has the flashsword and the greatsword, Pyromancy has GCFO which is basically best used in melee range as well as Sacred Flame.

I get that it's mostly focused on buffing, but just something melee would make it more enjoyable.
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Longsword, shortsword or broadsword?
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>>334791521
never thought id see a Duncan MacLeod webm in /v/
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>fist weapons are dogshit
>miracles are dogshit
>your qt aryan crusader is dogshit
Thanks From
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>>334792503
>polearms are always ok to bad
my sadness runs deep
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>>334798085
>>parrying is easier than ever in PvP
But it's literally the same as DS2
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>>334794189
I thought yulia was the basket next to him, since he's petting it
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>>334798195
>first weapons are dogshit
>straight swords are OP

Pick one.
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>>334795103
>Dragon
is the only way to kill this thing just pelt it with 100 arrows?
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>>334798263
No it isn't I could never parry consistently in either DaS1 or DaS2 PvP but then I start trying to parry in DaS3 and I'm landing 80% of my parries with zero practice
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>>334798378
Parrying in DS3 is exactly the same as DS2, I don't know what to tell you. Actually it's worse because partial parries don't block as much damage and use much more stamina now.
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>>334798195
>he doesn't know about lightning blade
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>>334798150
Broadsword doesn't have the disadvantage of the the previous games (no thrust attack) so that makes it slightly better.
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>>334798085
I've beaten tons of fags who tried spamming parry against my dark sword mash and I guess that on PC network is just too shitty. Sometimes I hit them literally through parry animation.
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>>334798429
Teach me please, I don't want to suffer like this anymore, all my miracles do NOTHING
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>>334790752
The Black Blade is literally the same weapon as the Uchi except it does more damage.
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So are there any confirmed new items/armor/weapons that only drop in NG+, anything special other than harder enemies, +1 items and swapped item locations?
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>>334798716
all i found were upgraded rings nothing new yet
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>slash

>best anything (other than greatswords)

Slash is shit, thrust is best, that's why the fucking rapiers are satan.
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>>334798797
>other than greatswords
you mean there are plebians that use anything else?
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>>334798491
lightning blade enchantment adds your spell buff in additiona lightning damage. at SL 75, i end up doing enough damage to 3-5 shot an invader with a straight sword.

it's also quite handy against most enemies in PvE, notably the invading NPC spirits.
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Best armor, best Greatsword.
Best moveset.
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>>334799025

Yeah, people like me who use great hammers.
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Soo anyway wanna help a massive casual out with killing dancer? Already beat him on my first character but jesus christ I want the chaos blade right now to butt blast ganksquads but I cannot muster the ability to kill dancer immediately after vordt when I'm only hitting for 64
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>>334799130
i like the looks but they just move far to slowly you just poke them after every swing and they are forced to panic retreat all fight
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>>334799068
Too bad Carthus Flame Arc is stronger with a maxed out flame and it has reasonable requirements.

The real reason to go faith is to use the Dragonslayer Swordspear.
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>>334799207

Yeah they're crap in PvP but I usually try to avoid PvP because I'm ass at it even with good weapons.

Smacking shit with huge blunt weapons is just so fun.
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Anyone tried out how Ricard's Rapier works with the Beacon pyromancy?

I was thinking about doing a Power Within+Beacon+Moonlight Blade + some other things build and I have no idea if it works like that.
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What class should I pick for my first DaS1 run? Thinking warrior or bandit
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>>334799439

A different game.
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>>334797710
Black Blade infused with lightning, if you are into gorillion times folded steel.
Dark Blade infused with lightning, if you are into straightswords.
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>>334793706
>ED

Erectile Dysfunction is your ultimate weapon anon?
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>>334799068

Does pumping faith up the damage noticeably?
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>>334791521
Highlander best.
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>straight swords have always been great
>people only bitching now and apparently using light attack is dishonorable
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>>334799521
It is for some people, yeah.
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>>334799439
Knight a better class stat wise. Least points pumped into useless luck, has a slot for 1 magic like weapon buff. Deprived is THE best of course but it's not for pussies. Having 10 in all stats on level 1 is imbalanced as fuck.
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>>334791521
>dex/faith build invading in Grand Archives.webm
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>>334793160
where i can get that bad boy in DS3? i loved that one in first one
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>>334799596
They've become an easy as fuck crutch now because in this game you can literally R1 stunlock an enemy to death, and due to being able to just attack non-stop their DPS is fucking higher than slower weapons. Past games would punish this behavour so people would go to other weapons and you wouldn't have a straight sword in 90% of PvP situations.

But no, not in DarkBorne, apparently enemies have negative poise.
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>>334799646
npc invasion on the way to irthyll dungeon
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>>334799615
>Having 10 in all stats on level 1 is imbalanced as fuck

It has the same amount of level 1 stat points as every other class.
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There's supposed to be black knight with axe in smoldering lake, where?
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>>334792503
*straight swords
the shortsword is ass
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>>334793160
Isn't that a strict downgrade from the Exile Sword in every way besides weight?
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>>334797710
Im using a STR build but i want to reroll get into faith, and use a claymore (probably a blessed claymore) and lightning weapon

do i have to delete the str and get dex+faith for a claymore build? they look like they scale better with dex as long as you have the minimum str
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>>334799797
Behind an illusory wall.
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>>334799797
Go down from demon ruins bonfire, reach the room with the 3 BB monsters and 2 statues, then go left in the tunnel.
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>>334799869
Wasn't that regular sword guy? I'm doing ng+ and I can't remember where he was anymore, but he was fighting the goat demon right?

>>334799894
thanks
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Using twin blades and pointiff curved sword. Is it worth switching to this?
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>>334799917
That's him, he's got an axe but you find the sword in that room as an item.
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>>334790752
Thanks for the laugh, OP.
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Where the fuck did people find this clapping gesture? It must be pretty early in the game as well.
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>tfw wanted to punch shit dead like i did in ds2
Why did they gimp fist weapons so bad?
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>>334790752
You could get the zweihander just after you finish the undead asylum in DS1
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>>334800076
talk to leonhard
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>>334792869
I tried them all and they are so awful that I'd not recommend a fist build for any purpose but a challenge run. If you desperately want to use your "hand" go pyro. The +10 flame is better than any fist weapon.
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>>334800115
because there's no real balancing yet
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>>334799917
This guy take forever to reach, farm the one right outside of Champion bonfire.
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>>334793194
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>>334800115
It still can be done you just have to dodge the flurry of attacks, get so close you can smell their BO, make sure there's no second monster nearby and then hit L1 until you're physically exhausted.
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>>334790752

That's not the butchers knife
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>>334800153
Ahh, thanks.
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Everyone shut the fuck up and look at my slab of metal.
People keep saying this weapon is shit, but it sure does squish the fuck out of anyone that invades me.
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Is there a weapon like the Rakuyo in the game? I mean a sabre with a dagger in the left hand.
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>>334800076

Get the red eye orb and talk to the guy
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>>334792503
>halberds
>bad

Lol this shitter.
Halberds are the MOST broken pvp weapon in the game. At least the ones with the vertical slash moveset.

Literally can win 30 fight clubs in a row without any danger.
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Is there a kind of list of area invasion/co-op like the Jolly Cooperation one for DaS?

Though I guess now we gotta fit in weapon levels.

I'm SL 30 with a +1 raw rapier and wondering if I should upgrade it yet or if I upgraded to early since i'm not getting invaded.
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>>334799615
He said DaS1

>>334799439
Pyromancer and Bandit seem to be the basic for most builds.
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>Miracles and faith are shit in this game
God fucking damn it. I really wanted to do a herald playthrough for my second character.
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>>334800547
Fight me.
SL 120, High Wall of Lothric.

I can parry ANY polearm with 99% accuracy. They are dogshit when your opponent knows how to parry. But come at me, bro.
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>>334800593
Get it to +3 and invade in Farron Keep. YOu should get plenty of action.
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>>334800492
Yep. Onikiri and Magasomething. On the roof of the Grand Archives is a guy next to two other NPC enemies that drops it.
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So I was thinking of picking this game up in the next couple days

was thinking of trying pyromancy since it's the only dark souls build type that I've never tried, but I've not been able to decide on a weapon

I was thinking of trying scythes or whips again since those were some of my old favs

how viable are the whips and scythes this game?

also how's the demon hand?
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>>334800636
>120
Sorry I'm not a twitch retard
80 is the meta
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>>334792503
>Stop Tier
>Ranged Weapons

I fucking love crossbows and the Knights Crossbow literally goes with my sun knight set and there's no way ANYONE is going to tell me that 2-shotting mook mobs that I could easily 1 shot with my +5 Sunlight Sword is dumb.

>Crossbows will never truly be viable
>I will never be the ranged warrior who dual-wields crossbows that I dream of being
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What weapon has the absolute hardest hit in this game. Is it Dragonslayer Greataxe?
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>>334800705
Holy shit everyone join me in a jolly laugh at this pathetic pleb. HAHAHAH
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>Storm ruller
>Assume stance to imbue sword with storm. Most effective with facing giants
>it still does fuck all damage to Yhorm


What's the point? Am I missing something?
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>>334800692
The flame whip is really good, but you don't get it until the archives.

Ifrit sucks, fist weapons in this game are really bad, it has high weight, shit scaling, and the weapon art is really cool but does no damage.
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>>334800615
Is it really that bad? What's wrong with it?
I just started a str/fai Herald and I don't want to get cucked.
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>>334800780
Charge it up for longer. I used Siegward and didn't know it had a second level until NG+2
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>>334800780
Press attack while holding the stance.
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>>334800780
Charge it for longer.

When you're at a bonfire, just keep on charging it nonstop. You'll know when to stop.
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>>334800780
It does less damage than my pointiff curved sword+3
Why? Im woth you, i dont get it.
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>>334800780
You have to wait few seconds in the stance until it charges.
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I just reached the swamp area
Fuck me I hate swamps
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>DON'T USE GUIDES!
>YOUR EXPERIENCE WILL BE PURE!

>Fail every single NPC questline

Fuck you /v/. This isn't failure from inattention to detail; these quests are straight up bullshit.
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>>334800789
can the flame whip do the skill the other whips can do?

also thanks man any idea how the scythes are?
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>>334800813
>>334800615
There has to be something we're missing here boys. There must be something good in faith.
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>>334800964

Lightning Blade seems to be the only decent miracle
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>>334800932
Doing NPC questlines perfectly etc. is for playthroughs after the first, you retard.

First playthrough is 100% blind until you did all you can, then you look if you missed any optional boss.
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>>334800964
maybe it's like in real life, you need to believe HARD in it for it to do anything :^)
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>>334800932
>souls game are one time playthrough game
here is your (you)
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>>334797115
>Its useless, because your weapons replenish at bonfires.
more like its useless because weapons have so much of it. in dark souls 2 it replenished at bonfires too but weapons would still regularly break because durability was so low and bugged to hell
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>>334800860
>>334800823
>>334800845
shit, I'm fucking retarded
thanks lads
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>>334799825
get just enough str/dex for the weapons and equipment that you want to use, and infuse it with raw so it does a decent amount of damage regardless of your stats.

if you get a blessed/lightning infused weapon, you won't be able to buff with lightning blade.

>>334800220
the hips on the fucking dancer armor, holy shit.
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>>334800949
The flame whip does that skill but also sets the whip on fire while doing so.

Scythes are good but they seem to have relatively low damage unless you sweetspot them. they're useful in that they're the only dex weapon capable of blowing skeletons apart (if you don't sweetspot it on them).
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>>334793256
>kys

4chan is 18+
>>
ANRI IS PURE!

PURE !!!
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>>334801019
I do.this.
>at work menrion im at anor londo
>friend asks if i killed horrace or rold anri where he is.
>say i couldnt find him.
Turns out you can climb down the broken bridge.
I was playing ofdline because no ps plus so i only had the game message about weak brodge.
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So this is the canon ending right?

Also whoever thinks this is the last souls games is bullshitting, none of the endings give it closure.
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>>334796073
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Great%2BCorvian%2BScythe
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>>334800483
Also FUCK YEAH I'M GUTS Gear is awesome.
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>>334801148
sweet, thanks for all the help man
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>>334790752
They did that in DaS1, though. You could get it from the undead merchant if you killed him. Uchi has the highest dex scaling of any weapon at +15.
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>>334800692
I beat it as a pyro with the dark sword. 18str for the dark knight shield, and 15 dex to meet the minimum of the sword. Even that's a little steep considering pyromancy damage scales up to 40 intelligence and 40 faith, but having invested 0 in endurance and vit + clutch rings dropping defense, I really wanted the best shield I could hold.

>>334800949
Its weapon skill is to burst into flame. Basically functioning as a fire enchant on a weapon that otherwise can't be infused or imbued. Without that weapon art buff, it dealt less damage per hit than my chaos dark sword, but at a much slower rate. Even with it, they're probably similar when accounting for weapon speed. It might be a really fun pvp weapon, like whips were in DS2 though.

>>334800964
Faith is where it was in Demon's Souls. Mostly for heals/buffs and party versions of those. You have more damage options than you did in Demon's Souls, but damaging spellcasting requires serious investment + stacking multiple rings. 60 faith, 60 intelligence, or 40/40 for pyros. Even weapon elemental damage is in the same boat. They don't want you dealing anything near decent elemental damage without paying steeply for it.
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>>334800716
>bows get sweet ass special shots
>crossbows get tackle

Come the fuck on, give me a quickload at least. Still, the manual reload is a damn godsend
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>>334801225
>closure

We don't need even more games set in this world. It's creatively bankrupt already at this point.

That's not to say Dark Souls 3 isn't fun. It is, but goddamn do they steal a lot from the first game.
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>>334801225
canon ending is you becoming the flame
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>>334801237
That set doesn't even squeak "i'm guts".
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>Pyromancy scales off int
Well that's okay I guess
>And faith
what the fuck from
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>>334801225
We havent gotten the dlc yet, they could add a definitive, truly canon ending that closes the book on everything.
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>>334801256
dual wielding whips in PVP was pretty much the only fun I had in DaS2

fuck I'm gettin hype
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>>334801330
It was that way in DaS2 already. I think the fact they made them require stats just like hexes did is pretty bullshit tho
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>>334801330
>the Fire is strong in DS1, pyromancy is easy as fuck to use and anyone can do it once they learn the trick to it
>the Fire is weak as fuck in DS3, even chaos demons are turning to ash, pyromancy is difficult as fuck to use compared to other types of magic
Makes sense senpai
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>>334792503
>Piercing Swords
You mean rapiers?
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>>334800932
>It's an "I want the entire experience handed to me on a slab in a single playthrough" faggot
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>>334801330
wait shit really?

I didn't know that fuck
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>>334801330
if you want full int scaling, go magic you cuckold
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>>334801330
It's exactly the same as DaS2, the scaling even doesn't add much to the spells. 90% of Pyromancy relies on the level of your Flame.
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>>334800734
Anyone know the answer to this?
>>
>fighting nameless king
FUCK
THIS
BOSS

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>334801580
Going from 25/25 to 40/40 nearly doubled the damage of my spells.
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>>334801414
>pyromancy is difficult as fuck to use compared to other types of magic

Maybe until you get Great Chaos Fire Orb.

I feel bad for the mobs.
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>He doesnt use the new lifehunt scythe
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>>334801256
>that faith/int shit
Welp fuck str/dex it is, fuck magic I guess.
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>Siegward just straight kills himself after the fight with Yhorm

b-but we were true friends
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>>334801662
I mean lore wise, it's difficult in that a character who can use pyromancy most effectively (high int and faith) has also "mastered" both other types of magic, miracles and sorceries (by having high faith and high int respectively). Lore-wise it's the most difficult to master, but the most powerful. Gameplay-wise it's much easier to use because it actually does damage while miracles and sorceries do diddly squat.
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>>334790752
I've heard that weapon scales based on the amount of sex you don't have
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>>334790752
>what is DS1

You can literally get the uchigatana in the first 10 min of Dark Souls I too...
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>>334801312
the cape is quite gutsy
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>>334791183
I've yet to use any repair option.

They should really nerf the bonfire repair, either by only giving you up to x% durability repair or by just not giving repair at all.
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>>334801796
>spoiling plotlines
fuck off
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>>334801796

I killed yhorm, where seigward?
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>>334801973
Didnt 2 have bonfires repair weapons too? Unless it broke then you had to get it repaired.

>tfw firelink shrine is so.comfy, almost like the nexus.
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>>334801623

Does flame arc scale with int/faith?
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>>334802053
Of you do hos questline hell come in and help when you enter yhe fog.
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>>334801081
Also fuck acid based enemies.
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>>334801998
>posting in a dark souls thread while unspoiled and haven't finished the game yet

you're own fault
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>>334802195

Well shit. Guess i missed it
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>>334802195
Anon are you okay
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>>334792990
Yeah Ludex gungyr drop
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>gave up and pumped 40 into luck and upgraded Anri's straight sword
>it hits like a two hander and can be buffed and putting poison or bleed procs it in 2-3 hits instantly

If I'm gonna play easymode i might as well do it right.
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So what do you use with pyromancy? STR? DEX?

Is it worth investing anything in STR for larger weapons or should I just stick with the shitty handaxe infused with a chaos gem?
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>>334802125
It does, however even 10/10 will give the buff +100 AR damage or so with a +10 flame. At 40/40 with a +10 flame, it's about +190 AR.

It's worth using for pretty much everyone, and very few enemies resist fire in the game.
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>>334802501
you could get dex for cast speed but that'll make you go to 120
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what's pvp meta level? 80? 100? 120?
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>>334803251
no higher than 100

120 has too many stats
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>>334802119

It did, but weapons actually had a chance of breaking throughout a level if you didn't maintain it properly, especially if you were in a zone with lots of enemies or corrosive material. Miyazaki said he tried finding a middle ground between the first two games, but he completely shit the bed.
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>>334803251
I've been getting a ton of action at 93 in NG +.

Also what greatsword do you guys like the most? I want one to pair up with my dual swords for fun but I'm not really sold on anything yet.

I was thinking about the claymore because it has a roll poke but isn't its damage garbage?
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>>334803483
All greatswords were buffed in the last patch. The Claymore has amazing damage now
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>>334797710
Lightning Halberd for now. The faith scaling on its pretty crazy.
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>>334792503
Awful list tbqh family.

God Tier:
Straightswords
Curved Swords
Axes
Halberds

Great Tier:
Bows
Spears
Hammers (Maces included because they're categorized as hammers)

Good Tier:
Fists
Whips
Greatswords

Faggot Tier:
Ultra Greatswords
Katanas
Rapiers
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>>334803721
My game says App Ver. 1.03.1 not 1.04.

What am I doing wrong here?
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>>334804091

>good tier
>fists
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>>334804253
Dunno why it says that, it does it for me too, but the new damages are in now.
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>>334803251
100 I feel, I think that's the Jap meta too.
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>>334804393
I guess it's because we play on PC.

Also, Claymore or Artorias?
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>>334804253
They're the same patch.
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>>334792503
>>334804091
>None of you included Greataxes, the single most powerful single hit weapons
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>>334804091
Greatsword belongs in faggot tier, especially claymore
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>>334792503
GOD TIER:
Straight "let me just spam R1 for days" swords
Kat "let me do nothing but spring and poke" anas
Rap "lol you think my tiny twing with phantom range won't stun you forever?" iers
Great "infinite hyper armour have fun losing every possible trade" axes

SHIT TIER:
Everything else

Thanks FROM for the most boring PVP meta in the whole series.
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>>334790752
>not chaos blade
top pleb
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>>334800636
>>334800705
>120
>80

100 is the best you plebs.
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>>334804797
>>334800705
>"My meta is better than your meta!"
Fuck off with this shit.
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>>334804927
My meta is better than your meta!
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>E/D/-/-
Garbage bin now
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Someone pls answer

Is the Dragonslayer spear any good? What about the Nameless Kings Swordspear? I know they're both uninfusable which makes me think they're not that useful.
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>>334805043
>D/D/D/D
Why?
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>>334805043
>>334805043
Those weapons scream for raw or reduced stat infusions
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>>334794403
lel so wacky xD
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>>334805118
I only have a little experience with the Dragonslayer Spear and none with the Swordspear, but it was alright, not spectacular, not terrible.
At +3 and 20/20/22 STR/DEX/FAI, it dealt a little less damage than a +9 Raw Astora Straight Sword. I imagine at +5 and with better DEX, it would be quite alright.
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I have a couple questions.

I just beat Abyss Watchers.

I went back to Firelink and Yoel is dead.
Did I accidentally trigger this game's Yurt?
Does this game have a Yurt?

Is Yoel supposed to die anyway? Since he's a pilgrim.
Do I get another sorcerer? I wasn't able to give Yoel the scroll so I assume so.

Also
Are there divine weapons? I really... really don't appreciate the reviving enemies in the catacombs.
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>>334805431
There is no NPC that kills others. Yoel dies after the abyss watchers.

Also if you didn't get all 5 dark sigils from him you're fucked.
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>>334805431
They only rev once and you can tell by seeing if they give souls
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>>334805431
There's no Yurt, don't worry.
I damn near killed Greirat because of this.
Him dying was meant to happen. There's a way to trigger something else, but it's really fucking obtuse.
Get your Hollowing to 15 or more, then get 4 extra levels from him. You can start building up hollowing after the first free level.
This will kill Yoel, but he will die a fulfilled man, and his friend Yuria will show up with her own questline.

It's idiotic.
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But that's not the one
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>>334805281
fuck off reddit
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>>334792503
>no mention of scythes

Their moveset is what sex feels like, I assume
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>>334805594
>all 5 dark sigils
What the fuck

I thought the Dark Sigil was just a curse?
I only got one, but I spoke with him every chance I got to see if he had any dialogue.

>>334805689
What in the fuck
How do I even do that?

I had no idea my first Dark Sigil even came from him. Yuria isn't like, a replacement sorcerer shop is she?

I expected to miss things the first time round but goddamn.
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>>334805837
you missed the sorcerer guy, look around in the crab zone
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>>334805952
>the crab zone
I am fed up with this world
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>>334791575
fuck off, newfig
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Black Blade would've been better if the R2 1h was a thrust.
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>>334790752
You could get the uchigatana in the first area of DaS1 as well.
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guys.


guys where do I find the pyro guy?

I got tons of pyro tomes but no one to give them to.
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>>334805837
You raise your hollowing by dying.
Get your first Dark Sigil.
Then jump off a cliff somewhere 15 times in a row.
Go back and get 4 free levels.
Reload Firelink Shrine.
Yoel's dead, Yuria's suddenly there.
I am not fucking kidding. It's the dumbest thing I've had to do in a long, long time.
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>>334806001
its in the ruins part
i can tell you more
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>>334806205
Or you can just play and die normally.
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>>334792869
demon's fist is bretty good.

I best the dragonslayer armor with it

you just need to know when to use r1 or rather l1
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>>334806146
Undead Settlement. Drop off the bridge near the firebomb guys, you'll find a bonfire. Follow that path to the top of the building and you'll find him inside a cage.

>>334806205
This would have been handy to know when I was dying for literally an hour trying to get the Fire Keeper set in the bell tower.

I still can't fucking get it

>>334806210
Like the area around the white burch with the giant enemy crab?
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>>334806278
I forgot to add that I use both pontiff's eyes. they proc fast with l1 combos
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>>334806258
You only have so long to do it, though.
If you wait too long, RIP Yoel and Yuria's entire questline.

>>334806146
Undead Settlement, right next to the fuckers that throw Firebombs from up high in a building. He's in a cage.
You find another one later in Irithyll Dungeon.
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>>334806342
its near the sage's boss room
on a upper level
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>>334806342
>Undead Settlement. Drop off the bridge near the firebomb guys, you'll find a bonfire. Follow that path to the top of the building and you'll find him inside a cage.

I feel so stupid now.
I found tons of fake walls even without notes and all covenants but not this guy. Thanks
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I've been invading in Anor Londo for a while now, what are some other fun places to invade in?
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>>334806258
If you make any progress he dies naturally and you fail that ending, it's legit retarded
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>>334806205
>had to do

it's entirely optional content
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>some guy with a Uchi invades me in Catherdral of Deep
>I WILL SMASH LIKE BUG
>he is literally T-Posing at me
>I charge up my strong attack, he rolls behind me
>my great club smashes him
>suddenly
>無意味な行為だったな!
>。。。?!
>he has taken literally zero damage and while he T-Poses I am thrown forward with the backstab animation
>I get up
>he's T-Posing away
>wtf
>I running attack
>時間を消し去って飛び越えさせた!
>my entire just goes through his body and he T-Pose backstabs me again and I die

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
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>>334806423
Thanks.
Now I just have to find that room again.

Is Crystal Sage hard at all? I get the feeling, from his attack types, that it's one of those "the hard part is getting to the boss" things.
Died once and fucked off to find the critical path instead.
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>>334806452
2nd bonfire of dragon's peak is a fun factory
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>>334806493
Oh fuck you, you know damn well what I meant.
Stick around, I might forget to capitalize an "I" later!
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>>334806521
Nice, how much does your level affect invasion? Or is weapon level more important?
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>>334806552
I didn't like his 2nd phase.
stack magic resists and you should be fine. also roll > shield
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I just want to know how DS3 connects to DS1 and DS2. Like, Firelink is a thing. So is Anor Londo.

Firelink looks completely different, whereas Anor Londo looks the same. I've only seen items that referenced anything from DS2, but a lot reference DS1.

What even is going on?
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>>334806645
>>334806558
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>>334806552
its fine if you take care of the decoys
trying to brute force dmg on him won't work
except if you're like overleveled and hit like a truck
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>>334806552
Throwing knives are really useful if you're melee
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>>334806635
you're bitching about having to do something weird and obscure for a weird and obscure ending

stop posting
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>>334806521
That happens because of a bad connecion. It's fun when you get summoned to a boss and your host has a bad connection. The boss literally can't hurt you but you can just smash R1 and do damage
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w-where the fuck did my buddy Greirat go?

I sent him to Ice place and he never came back, i'm past nameless king now

I need to buy more fucking throwing knives and the old hag doesn't sell them, only kurwi or w/e the machetes are called
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>>334800483
That weapon is fucking great.
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>>334806859
Ask Patches
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>>334806859
look in the sewers of said iceplace
where the ringgirlspiders hang out
>>
Ask the God of Dark Souls anything.

I know everything
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>>334806490
He dies if you kill the Abyss Walkers.
You have plenty of time to get your hollowing up to where it needs to be and still get all your free levels and that pimp waifu.
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>>334806950
Why do the Lords not return to their thrones as NPCs

Why just little cinder trophies
What the fuck man
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>>334807042
Because you killed them and took a part of what they were to place it on the throne such as prince lothric's severed head or the swords of the abyss watchers
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>>334807092
But I mean

Why did they design the game like that
It's 100% less cool
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>>334806769
>Weird and obscure ending
>An ending that has no requirements in Dark Souls 1
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>>334800615
same )^;
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watch what happens in reality

https://youtu.be/vJcTD5qIZJ4?t=50
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>>334805594
>Yoel dies after the Abyss watchers
He died for me after tree boss.
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>>334790752
Katanas are cool and all, but holy shit the extra split second of windup they have on the first strike seems to be the bane of my existence.

The dual katana is neat tho.
>>
who /carthus shotel/ here?
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>>334807342
Nobody was talking about this.
Besides, that was pretty close to a 50/50 split between who "won" those matches, at least in the first three minutes.
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Is the great machete any good?
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>>334807851
YES
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>>334806992
Even in my first play through I didn't die 16 times before then, watchers can be the 3rd boss for people and if you don't hollow out to 16 you fail. Out of all the bullshit NPC shit in this game yoel is the dumbest and easiest to fuck up
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The fucking farron greatsword gets me more fucking angry than any estoc in pvp

that fucking retarded combo, its so fucking stupid

It catches you out from half a mile away and you stand there like a stunned mule for a full second and a half while the second half of the combo executes, taking out half your fucking life
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>>334807851
It's a weak version of the Greataxe with slightly more range and a worse Weapon skill.
The Greataxe is far better, but it's an alright weapon on its own.
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>>334807851
get the sweet ass Butcher's Knife with S STR scaling when +10
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>>334808118
The range makes the weapon, greataxe is overrated. Anyone with a brain can stand outside of its pathetic range and poke you down
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>>334808240
I win 3/4 PvP matches due to the absolutely absurd damage. Every trade is to my advantage.
You're drastically overestimating how much range matters in a fight. All it takes is a single roll and suddenly I'm in range.
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>>334807453
Maybe if you missed him.

Otherwise he dies as soon as you enter the catacombs.
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Has anyone used Mornes Great Hammer? it looks sexy as fuck.
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>>334805269
Boss weapons
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>>334808240
>Range
>In a game where 90% of faggots are spamming r1 with a straight sword.
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>>334806916
>>334806920
AHHHH NO!!!
GREIRAT!!!

YOU WERE THE ONLY NICE GUY IN MY LITTLE SHITHOLE SHRINE

SFFEAPO;WF;lakh;fijhup
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>>334808838
i'm sorry anon
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>>334808838
Why didn't you rescue save him?!
>>
Fucking unique weapons are shit just because they can't be infused.
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>>334808838

Same here. Fuck man, i just read up how to save him and its weird as fuck, so easily missable. His soul now fuels my knight crossbow with lightning bolts. You live on greirat, by sniping those estus chugging faggots. Godspeed thiefbro
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>>334794974
It's okay though, you can just use the Fume and get 2 guarnteed hits and do about 700-900 Damage.

Of course you'd better have enough END to roll three times/swing twice after it.
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Is Blessed weapon worth it for a Faith str build?
Or should I just go full STR with the greatsword?

Help guys I don't know what to infuse, Ive been in firelink shrine for like 30 minutes deciding
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>>334806552
FOr his second phase just run and dodge around until you spot the real one throwing purple stuff, then go whack him in the face asap and his decoys will disappear
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>>334809606
Blessed is always terrible.
Always.
Go full strength, it's a lot of fun.
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>>334806552
>Run into crystals to limit clones
>Throwing knife instakills clones
Crystal Sage has very little going for him when you understand the gimmick.
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>>334809606
Blessed is shit for your main hand weapon, decent with shields because of the passive life regen.

Go Lightning instead
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>>334809814
the wall rises!
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>>334790752
>he doesn't pvp as pyro
>he will NEVER ever know the bliss of baiting and one shotting ganker phantoms with your Sacred Flame
>he will NEVER ever know the bliss of throwing GCFBs to the face of retards fighting the enemies thinking you won't attack just because you aren't next to them
Pyro has never been more fun.
Nothing in the game feels better than Sacred Flame.
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Are heavy infusions good? I have Heavy Dark Sword +4 and for my character it gives more damage than any other infusion (or without infusion) I can do.
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>>334808573
Didn't miss him. I got all 5 dark sigils from him and then he died once I slapped the tree in his fungusballs.
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>>334810096
Heavy, Sharp, and Refined are by far the best infusions stat wise.
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>>334810096
Hey guys lets fix weapons!
>Greatsword
>Nerf super fast weapons to break less super poise
>Make it so you can dodge out sooner after attacking

THERE DONE
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>>334810329
is that a no
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>>334809886
>decent with shields because of the passive life regen.

OHMYGOD
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>>334809886
>Blessed is shit for your main hand weapon, decent with shields because of the passive life regen.

holy
fucking
shit anon
>>
>>334810096
Yeah, heavy gives an increase to your str scaling, so usually its the best if you have significantly more str than dex. Sharp gives the same but for dex, refined increases both by an amount while lowering base damage.

All three are very very strong infusions
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>>334809886
What!? No!
Just cast Blessed Weapon! Or Replenishment! Or better yet, ignore the life regen 'cause it's so fucking bad anyway!
>>
Since this seems to basically be a general questions thread at this point;
Anyone know if reinforcing your pyro flame increases the damage that flame weapon gives?
>>
>>334809886
>>334810810
Can you even infuse your shields at all?
If yes, and if blessed is not a good infusion, what is?
>>
>>334809886
>>334809886
Neat, i was wondering what shield infusions did since it didnt do much stat wise. What do the other shield infusions do?
>>
>Trying to reach rank2 darkmoon
Fuck this game. Darkmoon was shit in ds1, and now they fuck it up again.
>>
>>334810918
Yes you can. Blessed is only good on shields where the poor scaling and damage doesn't matter. Other guy misread my post I guess.

>>334810997
Infusions are the same for weapons and shields, except for shields they tend to increase the damage absorption for that element. Blessed gives life regen naturally whether it's on a weapon or shield.
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>>334792503
>all 3 of my favorite melee weapons are in Stop tier

O-okay.
>>
>limited respecs per character
>FoTM patches are gunna be a thing, e.g Greatsword patch
>Greatsword patch literally makes one of them do the same damage as a Fume UGS

Bravo from.

In PVP its still alot easier to just use a uchi with all the latency and the phantom hitboxes then a fucking big huge slow ass sword, literally run up and r1 spam twice and run.
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>>334811129
>Decent with shields
I read that as "It's decent if you also use a shield". My bad.
If you wanted to be more clear, you could have written "decent ON shields", since that leaves no room for doubt as to your intentions.
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>>334790752
I LOVE MY UCHIGATANA!
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>>334811629
His post was pretty clear for me and I didn't even know you could infuse shields.
>>
does ng and ng+ talk together at all? or when i go to ng+ i can only invade and summon other ng+ people?
>>
I just beat dancer with the zwei. Is it actually a pile of shit because it feels pretty good to me.
>>
>>334812081
if you can kill dancer with a weapon and not feel like you're gimping yourself, then its probably a fine weapon. Most people here are just talking about things from a pvp perspective anyway, where such tier lists are usually pretty different
>>
>>334812049
You can summon from both just fine
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>>334811684
I hate that this is the meta. You start the game with the best weapons available
>>
>>334811129
I would check myself, but I don't have access to the game at the moment: if you bless a shield with 100 damage reduction, does it stay at 100 or does it becomes less?
>>
>>334812183
Can you summon someone who is NG+ when you are NG?
Can you summon someone who is NG when you are NG+?
>>
>>334790752
>have to beat hard optional boss

compare that to Dark Souls 1

>literally pick up Zweihander in the graveyard and don't have to ever lose in PvE ever again
>>
>>334812331
Yes
>>
>>334790752
>Assassin starts with Estoc, the most busted ass PvE weapon in the game
>>
unrelated, but can someone tell me how many playthroughs do i need to get the platinum?
>>
>>334791183
I've used Uchi the whole game and the thing has never dipped below half durability, including when I went an hour and a half without resting at a bonfire.

It's not like DaS2 where you have shit that has like 45 durability and have to put repair powder in your quick item slots because it breaks in 2 seconds.
>>
>>334811629
Fair enough. It seemed more clear when I was writing it.

Other info about Blessed Infusion

>Having a blessed weapon/shield in both hands stacks
>The rate of healing increases with reinforcement
>prevents skeletons from reanimating
>stacks with the Princess ring

>>334812214
I just checked several shields. It appears to decrease it from 100 to 95. Seems bad at first but the life regen still works if you're two handing your weapon

>>334812331
I've tried summoning someone in NG while in NG+. Doesn't work.
>>
>>334793078
some of the dual wield weapons involve pressing L1.

Dancer Twinblades involve actually using the Weapon Skill.
>>
>>334799815
Nah, dude. Short sword and moreso the broadsword. They will murderrape.
>>
>>334793432
the Uchi is honestly a really good pick, the tree is extremely prone to bleed damage.
>>
So wait, if Sirris doesn't like you being in the finger covenant. Does joining it in ng fucks me over from her quest in ng+ as well?
>>
>>334812512
From what I've heard, if you do everything exactly right, NG++

iirc it has something to do with certain rings making others unavailable or something.
>>
>>334812984
It does.

I think I had the finger covenant equipped when talking to her at the time, so there may still be hope for NG+
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>>334813176
fuck
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Why does the Faaron Greatsword feel so weak?
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>>334801225
It gives them closure. You either kindle or destroy the first flame. Thats why you fought Soul of Cinder, because it was deffending the current reality aka Age of Fire.
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>>334813478
because they nerfed it. seriously they actually did.
i think it's actually weaker than Soul Greatsword now.
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>Upgrade darksword, greatsword, blackknight axe, lucerne
>Still use darksword
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>>334790937
Final Fantasy does this all the time though.
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>>334812331
>Can you summon someone who is NG when you are NG+?

yes
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>>334797710
Lightning Black Blade
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>>334793194
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Do you get to keep the coiled sword fragment in ng+? or should i turn it in for a slab before going there?

Also, do you choose when to go like in ds2, or just by killing last boss?
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>>334813538
i dont see why it would need a nerf, one swing is barely stronger then a normal hit from a Knight sword
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>>334813846
>Do you get to keep the coiled sword fragment in ng+?

Yes.

> or should i turn it in for a slab before going there?

Yes. Homeward Bones are cheap as fuck
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>>334813846
a prompt will pop up at the end of the credits but you can say no then use the bonfire in firelink later
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Dancer's swords are supposed to be good now, why are they still shit?
>514 attack power
>does 90 damage
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>>334813538
FROM is pretty much gunna pump out reactionary patches instead of proper balance.

As it is now it would be for the best if EVERYTHING got tweaked. But thats not gunna happen, they will just keep making flavour of the month "balance" patches.
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>>334814018
Ive been 3 shot by them before
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>>334812749
>>334812749

The drang hammers too. L1 L1 L2 was needed to avoid the third hit that was really unsafe since there was a delay from rolling out of
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>magic worse than ever
>Poise doesn't even do anything
>armor is basically worthless and does nothing aside from Poison/Curse resist, and all the good poison/curse resist gear is light
>Vitality doesn't get you anywhere near enough equip load to actually put on heavy shit
>Endurance is shit and you barely get any more than your starting stamina even getting it to 30
>Piercing attacks fuck over almost everything yet again, even though this was the biggest flaw with DaS2
>Str weapons cost too much stamina and swing too slow and most bosses resist them anyways
>second half of the game devolves into autistic invincibility frame shit with bosses who all one-shot you even with over 1k HP
>basically no reason to pick any class other than Knight or Pyromancer due to them having the best starting gear AND stats
>shields worthless except a scant few situations

I really do like the game a lot but this shit bugs me.
Especially the bosses in the latter half of the game. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were never about faggot bosses who one-shot you and are completely safe on all their moves.
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>>334791521
lol
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>>334814304
>Poise doesn't even do anything
It works the exact same way it did in DS2, i.e. regenerates really slowly but instantly refills on being stunned.
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>>334814683
Only even people who manage to have over 30 poise still get hitstunned into oblivion by single attacks. People with 40 say they can at best take two attacks.
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>>334800932
I did 3 of the quests without any guides..
Some are bullshit though. Mainly siegward.
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>>334800932
>gave Loretta's Bone to fucking smooth silky retard bird because I never found Greirat
>get fucking Sacrificial Ring
>mfw 5 fucking Sacrificial Rings

I somehow managed to not fuck up Siegward's quest like everyone else though.
and at least it went better than my Bloodborne run
>kill Rom as my 5th boss
>every NPC in the fucking game dies less than 4 hours in

thanks From, you hacks.
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