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CODENAME NEO PS4.5 THREADSony seems committed to keeping the NEO and the original


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CODENAME "NEO" PS4.5 THREAD

>Sony seems committed to keeping the NEO and the original PS4 player bases connected. As such, there will be no NEO-only games, and Sony will not let developers separate NEO users from original PS4 players while playing on PSN. Likewise, Sony explicitly and repeatedly states that developers cannot offer exclusive gameplay options or special unlockables for NEO players—so don’t expect NEO owners to get a level editor or a special Rocket League car that you won’t have access to on your original PS4.

>Games running in NEO mode will be able to use the hardware upgrades (and an additional 512 MiB in the memory budget) to offer increased and more stable frame rate and higher visual fidelity, at least when those games run at 1080p on HDTVs. The NEO will also support 4K image output, but games themselves are not required to be 4K native.

Original PS4

CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 1.6 GHz
GPU: AMD GCN, 18 CUs at 800 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 176 GB/s

NEO
CPU: 8 Jaguar Cores at 2.1 GHz
GPU: Improved AMD GCN, 36 CUs at 911 MHz
Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s

Thoughts? It's over 200% of the raw power and nearly double the GPU bandwidth. Only the CPU is not seeing a major facelift.
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>>334774240
>Memory: 8 GB GDDR5, 218 GB/s
Is this the graphic card or primary RAM. I can never tell with these custom made consoles.
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>>334774240
isn't this just for vr?
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>>334774240
Another tablet APU?
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Just look at the graphics...
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So why are all the leaks that come out so different? I mean, they aren't worlds apart, but there are inconsistencies.
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>>334774240
>As such, there will be no NEO-only games,
Wait, then what's the point?
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So if it's not splitting the user base then what's the problem?

>>334774538
I still love this movie.
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>>334774865
vr probably
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>>334774240
how can they get away with this bros?
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>>334774240
Isn't this just a rumor tho?
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4K IS HERE!!!!!
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>>334774947

Yeah, same. I'm a Reloaded fan as well. Shit there are parts of Revolutions I even like.
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>>334774865
>'Additionally, games released in the late September window will require a day one patch that updates them to NEO standards'.
Slightly better graphics & framerate I guess. If they mentioned late Sept hopefully FFXV gets the patch as well.
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>>334775013
it's obviously true at this point.

Constant rumors from supposedly reputable sources and Sony hasn't debunked anything after two months of these leaks happening. The only issue is that no one really knows what it is exactly.

One leak says that it will be out by the end of the year while another says it will be out in 2017. One says that it can't do 4k games and one says it can. One says there is only a GPU upgrade and the other one says it's GPU,CPU, etc. One leak says it will have exclusives while another says it won't.

I'm just waiting for Sony to just come out and say what it really is. I personally think it's just a Slim PS4 with 4k video playback for movies and tv shows.
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>>334774865
better performance
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So how much VRAM does the PS4 currently have?
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I still haven't seen a single thing that has convinced me a ps4.5 exists. People said the same for the ps3 and those rumors were forgotten as soon as they were made.
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>>334775150
Does anyone in the US broadcast in 4k?
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>>334775263

I guess to a certain degree Nintendo does play a significant role in the industry. It's still setting some trends. People knock them for not having the foothold they used to, but their competitors still emulate certain things they do.
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>>334775013
When a rumor gets this big and important people are even coming with new sources every day its pretty much guaranteed. A few weeks I was laughing at how unlikely it was but now I believe in the One.
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>>334774538
That CGI holds up surprisingly well for being 15 years old.
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>>334775359
Live broadcast? I don't think so.

Pretty sure Netflix has some 4k and there are 4k blu-ray/dvd's now.
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>>334774424
it's actually the same one just overclocked I think.
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>>334774538
I thought Reloaded was good.
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So are they saying a PS4 game can be bought and played on a "Neo" and then patched for better performance?
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>>334775418

You got the gift. But it looks like you're waiting for something. Your next life maybe, who knows.
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>Codename Neo

I'm calling it, this is either going to be necessary for PSVR or PSVR will be shit without it.
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>>334775558
Yes but how many devs will bother to make a patch?
FROM games are tied to framerate, so for BB to be patched to 60 fps they'd have to reanimate the entire game. Will they really do that?
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>>334775661

>Codename Morpheus
>Codename Neo

Are they really doing this?
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>>334775661
Did you make that assessment because the PSVR was nicknamed Morpheus?
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>>334775351
>I still haven't seen a single thing that has convinced me a ps4.5 exists. People said the same for the ps3 and those rumors were forgotten as soon as they were made.

Source?

Also if it's fake why hasn't Sony said anything? If it was fake surely they would say so. Didn't Nintendo debunk those NX leaks that everyone thought was real?
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>I'm going to have to buy another console to properly play Kingdom Hearts 3

Oh my fucking God I'm going to kill myself. I bought a PS3 for it and then a PS4 for it. NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BUY A PS4.5 FOR IT.
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>>334775815

I think the creator of that goofy controller debunked it himself. A gafer created it. Figures
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>>334775475
oh, ok.
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>>334775815
>Didn't Nintendo debunk those NX leaks that everyone thought was real?
Nope.
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>>334774240
And this is how you do it, Nintendo.
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FFXV won't look like ass anymore, I'm hyped cuz I don't own a PS4 yet
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>>334775918
make sure to save some money for KH3FM UHD on PS5
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>>334775760
I wonder what the Wachowski Sisters think about that.
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>>334775918

NEVER EVER
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So what's bad about this exactly? Sounds like no one misses out on anything.

>>334776067
Square will have to patch it to work with PS4 Neo's capabilities.
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>>334775250
I think it will do 4K video output but will also likely be more powerful, with games designed to take advantage of it. This is the worst console generation ever and the PS4, despite being the strongest of them, was outdated even on release. This generation can't go for another 5 years or so without a power upgrade so they're stealthily upgrading to another generation without losing all their fans.
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>>334776040
Nintendo already did it first with the N3DS.

Sony, like always, it copying their moves, just like the Move, Off TV play, and motion control.
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When can we start shitposting about
>he bought an OG PS4
like we did with the N3DS?
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>>334776292

After the PS4.5 super slim gets released.
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I don't get it.

It's a PS4, but doesn't play anything a PS5 wouldn't? Whats the fucking point

>Muh frames

Literally could not give a fuck.This is a retarded move sony.
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>>334776173
>This is the worst console generation ever and the PS4, despite being the strongest of them, was outdated even on release. This generation can't go for another 5 years or so without a power upgrade

People say this every single gen.
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>>334776136
Considering it comes out in September it sounds like Sony is outright requiring them to release a performance patch.
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>>334775918
>buying a console for a game that isn't out
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>>334774350

Both

The piece of shit is the same hardware with a slightly higher cpu clock and more cus

>sonycucks claiming 4k modern native games

Top cuck
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>>334776358

It sounds retarded, but at this point can they really do anything they can't get away with? After PS3 you would think everyone would be done with them, but here they are buying 30 million PS4s. Also, even if PS4 would fail, would that even stop Sony? I'm willing to bet they'll make another handheld after Vita. Who knows, maybe this time people will buy that by the 10s of millions too. They tend to forgive them no matter what, and no amount of fuckups stops them from doing shit.
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>>334776136
PS4 owners will never get the kind of performace late in the game that there was with the PS2 and PS3 because all the "pretty" games and effects will be made for the next one. Anyone without the Neo will be getting a gimped copy devs put out with minimal effort. There isn't incentive to push pixels.
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>>334775312
It has a unified memory pool, I think. It's up to the devs to decide how they want to split it up. I think like 2 or 3GB is reserve for the OS, though.
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>>334774240
So will games finally get all the way up to rock solid 30FPS?
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>>334775471
>15 years old
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>PlayStation Neo
>NeoGaf becomes "PS4NeoGaf" as if it wasn't already before
can we change /v/'s name to New Nintendo 3DSGaf
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>>334775538
It was good. All 3 of the movies were good.
The first one was just so huge that everyone wanted the next two to impress them just as much, which in the Matrix's case is really fucking hard.
Also, did you know that one of the watchowski "brothers" is a trannie now?
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>>334777050
>one

both now.
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>>334777050
both of them are trannies and both of the sequels were ass
sorry brah
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>>334777119
does your mom know you save this stupid shit on the living room computer?
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>>334776358
>Literally could not give a fuck
just because you're content with cinematic frames doesn't mean everyone else is
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PS4 NEO + PSVR + Ace Combat 7.
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Time for silky smooth 30fps
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>>334776116
>Sisters
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>still using crappy Jaguar junk cores

What was the point of this """""""""""""""""""upgrade"""""""""""""""""""" again?
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>>334777792
Better performance and VR.
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>>334774240
I had high hopes, but they ended up disappointing me again.

Those fucks are probably gonna charge $399 again as well and do nothing about current PS4 owners
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>>334777863
the extra gpu power aint gonna amount to much if the shitty cpu cant keep up.
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>>334775471
>15 years
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>>334774538
How could the people who made the Matrix make this shit? It doesn't make any sense...
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Are the Matrix sequels any good, Revolutions got some bad ratings
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>>334775263
theres a difference between nintendo putting out an upgraded model to improve the games that need it(and are the top sellers) due to the hardware being shit for its day and age. Not defending nintendo on this but they have been doing this since the gba and people are used to it by now and should expect it.


Compared to Sony shitting this out for more sales because Devs are shitty and dont know how to properly optimize, seriously what the fuck. PS3 and 360 had some amazing optimizations that never should have been possible on that kind of hardware yet games are being made with the same resolution and struggle with 30 fps without any major improvements to textures or draw distances. Did everyone just decide to say "Fuck it" and throw their games at the improved hardware and assume it would be fine because its stronger? Im seriously baffled by this shit
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>>334778439
There was that rumor that the sisters/brothers stole the original plot of Matrix but then again, everyone loses their touch and is bound to make a mediocre film. Just about every director has one unfavorable film, prove me wrong.
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>>334778439
How could they make this shit?
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>>334776548
I don't think anyone was saying that without talking about a price tag of $1000, Xqueer.
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This could potentially make FFXIV faster once they drop PS3 support and utilize the new ps4 hardware.

Not gonna buy one but Im happy that my game benefits from this ripoff
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>>334778513

Reloaded is fun, but not nearly as good as the original. It has some of the most iconic scenes in the trilogy too. Revolutions is complete trash that is only worth watching just to say you watched it.
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>>334778513

anything beyond the first Matrix was shit.

and The Matrix wasn't exactly an original concept, either. It was just in the right place at the right time with the right WOAH
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>>334778683
I liked it
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>>334778592
>literally it's okay when nintendo does it: the post
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>>334775471
>>334776815
>>334778151

It's only 13, calm down nigs.
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>>334774538
Was this whole scene cgi? I can't even tell.
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>>334778975
>only 13
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>almost double the cu's
>games won't be exclusive
with graphic and performance so pitiful they might as well be exclusive
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>>334778592
3DS is also pretty much at the end of its lifetime. There's not going to be many AAA titles we won't be able to play on vanilla.

PS4 is just getting started. We don't know what Sony will do with the original release regardless of what they say. No system will be supported forever. It's possible a formal announcement will put some fears at ease.
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>recently bought a PS4 like /v/ told me to
>a better version is already coming out
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>>334779131
>bought a PS4 like /v/ told me to
nice bait
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Who's more upset by this: PS4 owners realizing they bought a PS3.5? or xboners knowing their console was obsolete on launch day and is now not even going to be in the same league?
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>>334774240
They would have to be fucking stupid not to put a better CPU in it. The main issue the gen is the CPU bottlenecking everything. If it really is such a shitty update then what the fuck is the point if it's just going to have the exact same issues.
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>>334774538

Matrix gets away with aged CGI because it fits with the universe.
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I'm sure this is less about games and more about being able to properly play content that Sony Pictures is producing.
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>>334779219
Even if what op is saying... It is still a fucking terrible out of date pos in 2016.
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>>334778592
>console is constantly pondered too by devs
>it's the devs not knowing how to optimize for the system they suck the most dick for
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>>334779219

I'd say everyone should be equally upset. I'm not even mad, just disappointed by it all. This whole generation is a goddamned joke.
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>>334778592
>Compared to Sony shitting this out for more sales because Devs are shitty and dont know how to properly optimize, seriously what the fuck. PS3 and 360 had some amazing optimizations that never should have been possible on that kind of hardware yet games are being made with the same resolution and struggle with 30 fps without any major improvements to textures or draw distances. Did everyone just decide to say "Fuck it" and throw their games at the improved hardware and assume it would be fine because its stronger? Im seriously baffled by this shit

This entire post is pretty much wrong. PS3 games, at least at the start of the gen, were fucking poorly optimized. If you say otherwise you're retarded.
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>>334778643
it's not a rumor they stole it from some black woman who sued and won
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>>334779304
That's what I think and am personally hoping for. What's the point of releasing a 4.5 and not just waiting for the inevitable 5?
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>>334774538
Remember when agents were a big deal in the first movie? Yeah, me neither.
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>>334778891
You liked all the dicks didn't you
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>>334779494
And that didn't change at the end. Gta 5 died hardcore as soon as it had to do something demanding.
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>>334779493
I think PCfags should be happy about this. Maybe console ports will be less graphically downgraded now.
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>>334779219
There's also multiple rumors about an Xbox1.5.
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>>334779683
Multiplats play like crap on the PS3, that's undeniable. Half way through the gen exclusives were decently optimized for the console. I was actually surprised when I played Killzone 2 and it never really dipped below 30 frames very often.
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>>334779687
Why? Even the most average GPU puts these new stats to shame.
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These specs cannot do native 4k, let alone upscaled 4k. Who are these leakers trying to fool?
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>>334779131

>fell for sonycuck lies and the ps4 meme

Enjoy your online sub
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>>334779493
Doesn't affect me, I'm a PCfag. I just like watching dogs fight.
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>>334779938
>tfw have ps4 but never gave a fuck about multiplayer so I don't buy PS+
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>>334779839
That doesn't really help when a game is downgraded at the core for consoles, now does it?
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>>334779910
Trojan horse for 4k Bluray

I wouldn't put it past Sony to try to market it as apprearing doing that though.
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>>334779839
It will bridge the gap a bit, but like the first PS4 it will be obsolete by the time it hits the shelves.
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>>334778439

Matrix films were made by brothers
Jupiter was made by sisters.
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>>334779131
This, except /v/ didn't tell me to. My friend(s) had a PS4 and I was finally able to afford one comfortably a couple months ago.

And I'm fucking obsessed with the recent developments in VR, making this so much worse.

I just fucking know they're going to make their VR thing PSNEO exclusive, and PSNEO won't be able to play any pre-neo PS4 games in VR.

And I would just wait until the real next generation of consoles, where one would expect to see VR platforms out of their "intro" phase and improved upon, but I have this dreadful feeling that much like the Kinect and PSEye, the VR technology will be lackluster and fall flat, and instead of improving on it, they'll just drop it altogether, so the only way to play anything in VR will be to buy an old PSNEO, PSVR headset, and the handful of VR-compatible PSNEO games that will come out.

I mean, I hope it doesn't turn out like that, I really do, but the AAA-Developer-Age of video games has taught me never to get my hopes up.
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>>334774240
I bet that shit doesn't even have sata 3 yet.
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>>334780421
Just like Hideo and Kojima?
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>>334778643
>The lawsuit was dismissed with the judge ruling Stewart and her attorneys “had not entered any evidence to bolster its key claims or demonstrated any striking similarity between her work and the accused directors’ films,” according to Snopes. The defendants were awarded $305,235.62 in attorney fees, but Stewart said they never collected.

>The defendants were awarded $305,235.62 in attorney fees, but Stewart said they never collected.
lmao
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>>334774240

You would think that they would be able to wait until Zen came out and get Basilisk APUs instead of Puma cores, but I guess there's too many differences for that to happen and it's the only thing they can do.

Faster Jaguar, "improved AMD GCN" and slightly more bandwidth on the GDDR5 8 GBs doesn't seem like it would fill in the gaps to run VR well enough or even reach 1080p 60 FPS on games.

So basically, it's nothing.
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>>334780489
No, Hideo and kojima hate eachother and have been trying to sabotage one another since mgs 4.

And we're all caught in the middle.
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Cool that the GPU is almost an R9 290 (yep seriously, look it up). But the shit CPU really needs to be at least 3GHz.
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>>334774240
AW MAN NOW I CAN PLAY GAMES WITH EVEN BETTER GRAPHICS! LIKE

>Bloodborne
AND
AND


.....AAAND....
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>>334780684

Inproved gpu implies it's the same architecture. Wonder how much of a difference there is between gcns gens

I imagine its closer to a 7970 but the cpu drags it to 30 fps

Likely the best they can do gven the new shit isn't going to meet a 400 dollar price tag
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>>334780941
Uncharted 4 and the new ratchet and clank . nice try shitposting
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>>334780994
>3 games
>after 3 years
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>>334780941
And all the multiplats
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>>334781073
name 3 pc exclusives
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>>334781073
Also knack
you're bad at this
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>>334780994
>new ratchet and clank
>new
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>>334780981
Does CPU have such a large bearing on FPS? I thought the primary bottleneck was GPU side.
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>>334780941
> It's over 200% of the raw power

With that spec? Hell fucking no.
The new spec at most will give it 40% more raw power.
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>>334775918
>PC's are expensive guys!!
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>>334781148
60 FPS
120 FPS
144 FPS
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>>334779131
>Buying consoles
>Ever
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>>334781260
Ohhh shit
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>>334781073
>Bloodborne
>Infamous
>Disgaea 5
>Ratchet and Clank
>Driveclub
>Until Dawn

I don't even like the PS4 but we can't use this shitpost anymore.
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>>334781201
GPU is what matters more, but the CPU still has to be good enough to keep up with the GPU. No point in a strong GPU if you pair it with a weak CPU.
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>>334781260
why does fps matter when you cant even run games without crashing
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>>334781260
- There are 60fps games on ps4
- Placebo
- Placebo
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If i can play BB in 60 fps ill be happy, dont give a fuck if i have to pay more for it, since theres 0 chance its coming to pc
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>>334781114
multiplats don't all of a sudden get better performance on ps4. and they still won't be better than on pc.

>>334781176
>knack
>good
pick one

>>334781148
Firewatch
Unreal Tournament
Overwatch
Routine
Survarium
Pretty much all mobas
Pretty much all RTS games
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>>334781238
Lol check out this dumbfuck who has no idea about percentages of flops lmao
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>>334781349
>PC gaming is hard
meme better
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>>334781421

You still wont even get 30 fps.
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>>334781201

The ps4 is already being bottlenecked by its cpu

To hit mostly 60 you're going to need it

With this it looks like their intention is keep 30 but bump eyecandy but a jaguar was always a joke

Should have waited for zen
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>>334774240
>Over clocked console

So basically you'll end up paying couple hundred more for extra cooling so you can get a smooth fps of 35?
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>>334776570
What was so bad about PS3?
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>>334777050
I actually liked 2 better than 3.

People seemed to like 3 but i hate that they butchered the ending to leave it open ended for that awful MMO.
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it's a unconfirmed ruse
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>>334781451
Firewatch is on PS4 and Overwatch is on PS4/Xbone
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>>334781421
That won't happen unless FromSoft decides to rework the entire game from the ground up.
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>>334781504

Oh and I'm talking about modern games

You can still hit 60 with old shit like dark souls 2 or underwhelming looking games
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>>334781339
>spending $400 + $360 to play 6 fucking games

With all that money you could've put together a nice pc. Like a really nice pc. You're not even trying anymore
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>>334781260
OH SHIT ABSOLUTELY OBLITERATED REKD
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I bet this could even run Dark Souls 3 at 60 FPS.

What a time to be alive.
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>>334781421
Console games are designed to have maximum framerates, so even if this system is capable of running Bloodborne at 60fps, FROM would have to issue a patch or extra version in order to take advantage of it. And that's assuming they didn't tie all the physics and systems to the framerate as Japs are prone to do.
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>>334781451
>indies, incomplete multiplayer games, mobas and RTSs
lmao
trash
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>>334781260
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>>334781504
Is Zen the same architecture? If there's a switch it architecture, there is no point in the whole optimization thing of consoles.
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>PCucks going out of their way to call the GPU a 7970
>It's actually 90% of a 390
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>>334781593
>literally 98% of of what pc gets with inferior graphics

lmao
trash
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>>334781562
I don't even have a PS4 you dunce, I'm just saying that the Bloodborne Machine meme is dead.
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>>334774350
ps4 has unified memory, the vram is the cpu ram and vice versa
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>>334774240
Ohboy, I cant wait for another year of Sonygaf posts shilling matrix pics to mark their threads so they know where to post just like all the goldfaces and shit when they shilled souls garbage.
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>>334781514
Read the GPU specs. They've more than doubled it.
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>>334781658
But the literally no games still machine meme is still very real
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>>334781562
>anything less than $1000
>"""""""really nice PC"""""""

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>334781637

No but amd cpus are shit

Zen is the only promising thing they have

Jaguars were a joke
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>>334781729
Hey, skip out the SSD, pirate windows and take a gamble on the PSU and you're well on your way to hit that budget.
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>>334781729
Literally anything you could build with 760 dollars would destroy a ps4 in performance.
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>>334781792
I don't see how that changes anything I said.
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>>334781729
Better than PS4k.

You're always going to be behind in hardware. Even if you tried matching a basic storebought PC's hardware, the proprietary hardware costs from the name brands Sony is paying to have in their console will make it cost more because licensing.
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>>334781769

Jaguars are perfectly fine for what they were designed to do. It just so happens high performance is not one of those things.
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>>334781825
the point is that it may not be the best pc, but it's better than a shitstation.
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>>334781637

CPU microarchitecture doesn't really matter when you put in what is basically a generic x86-64 processor. If you re-engineer the consoles to switch only the CPUs from AMD to Intel, there wouldn't be any problems in general, besides very minute details.

Here's the other thing. If Sony isn't waiting and they are going to release Neo so soon without waiting for Zen, Microsoft is going to jump them so badly by waiting for it for their Xbone 1.5 unless they go full retard as well.

Honestly, I dunno who is making the decision to release the new console so soon, but they should seriously just consider waiting.
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>>334781842
Why the fuck do you think I'm a sonygger?

>butthurt poorfag thinks that me ripping on him for having a toaster means I'm a sony cock sucker
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>>334781894
Maybe they know something about Nintendo's NX?
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>>334781858
Okay?

You can get a decent PC with $800, but not a really good one.
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All this ps4 update is going to do is stabilize the 20fps framerate on their games. That and help with VR games.
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>>334781791
SSDs are pretty cheap these days.

You can get 512G for $100.
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NX dead on arrival.
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>>334781712
Still never going to get that 1080p 60 fps they promised.
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I think ZEN was supposed to be this year but then it's been pushed back. I'm pretty sure they were already showing the flag months ago when they weren't showing off any prototype unit or anything to tech industry people.

Intel needs to be broken up as a monopoly already since AMD just isn't competing anymore. Shit, I think Intel and Nvidia actually give AMD money just to prevent them from dying and having an anti-trust hit them
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>>334778439
I ENJOYED JUPITER ASCENDING!
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>>334774240
lmao the point of a console is to have a standardized set of hardware for devs to target, and for people to not have to upgrade their shit

ps4.5 is literally pants on head retarded

also
>console gaming
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>>334781894

> without waiting for Zen

AMD's roadmaps put the Zen based APUs at mid 2017. Once you factor in manufacture time by the time zen is available it will be time for another round of consoles.
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>>334775760
Greek mythology. Could be tied to the new God of War.
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>>334775359
In Canada Rogers offers NHL games in 4K
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People forget that most console games arent made like pc with sliders to change the performance. Console games have better performane than the equivalent hardware on pc (ffs, X1 have the same specs as a 2009 computer) cause the games are carefully optimized for that specific configs. You always lose performance when you have to account for different machines.

Old games wont have magical improvments, maybe the frame rate will get solid 30 if it had slowdowns, and thats it.

There are ways to make a game look better without changing the software, but there are problems:

>Filters, added SSOC and AA. Rather "performance cheap" but usually cause compatibility issues. You never know how that specific filter will react with some game.

>Set up a resolution multiplier. Basically downsampling, but given how performance heavy it is, expect stuff like 1440->1080 rather than 4k-1080. If it even reaches 1440.
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>>334781842
unless they have some sort of 'deal' that makes this 'business' worth it. i 'could' be 'wrong' though. but i doubt it.
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>>334775718

Hopefully they learned their lesson and maybe Sony gave them a heads-up that they should develop the game to potentially be played on better hardware.
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>>334782123

It would only be a delay of a year, but I guess it explains why they have to release ASAP since not getting on the crappy VR train soon would hurt Sony.

But in all serious, there would be no way a traditional console cycle would end in 2017-2018. The current console cycle only started in 2013. At least it would go to 2020.
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>>334776136

I wouldn't be surprised if making it NEO-compatable was a big reason for it taking so long.
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>>334781260
kek
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>>334774538
>this scene is 13 ears old
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how are they getting away with this shit? do current PS4 owners at least get a discount or some kind of trade in offer? early adopters just got shafted hard as fuck.

why aren't more PS4 owners mad about this shit? is there some part of the deal I'm missing where it isn't as jew-tier as it sounds?
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>>334782051
At this point, a stable 30 is all we can really hope for.
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>>334776067
FFXV doesn't look like ass, just runs like it.
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>>334782495
>At least it would go to 2020.
Nope. Dead and in the process of being buried.
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>>334778683
I liked it just for how fuckin weird it all was.
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>>334780097

Considering 4K blu-ray players currently cost about $400 the NEO becomes very attractive to people with new 4K TVs or are thinking of getting one. Kinda like how a lot of people bought PS2s because they could play those new-fangled DVDs.
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>>334782495
Well, given current trends, PS5 is confirmed for 2019.
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>>334778643
Wes Anderson.
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Are they gonna change the look too? That'd be an added bonus.
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>>334780464

Apparently it still has the same slow-ass HDD but hopefully they design it to it can take better advantage of SSDs and hybrids.
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>>334782775

>traditional

But yes, if it isn't a traditional cycle anymore, then it pretty much can be at any point when the console companies feel like it.

>>334782884

Feels way too soon especially considering Neo. They will lose a ton of goodwill.
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>>334778891
I liked it as well, the gay stuff weirdd me out a little, but thats only because shows don't really show much gay stuff besides wisecracking side characters, Sense8 was like "Here this person is trans, oh by the way, HERE IS A BIG GAY ORGY".

But yeah, besides the initial shock value of that, I enjoyed it.

>>334778439
The story in this was pretty shit, but I enjoyed the action sequences a lot.
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>>334782572
Calm down you fuck, we don't even know if this is real yet. Did you fall for the NX leaks too?
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>Sony: You have no choice but to invest extra resources on your own dime and support this
>Also fuck you if you want to make exclusive content

I don't see how this could possibly backfire
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>>334783005
Smartphones have primed people to think that tech should be replace every other year. Sony is probably testing out if the same logic applies to game consoles.
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>>334783005

I dunno, $400 every two years for a new console doesn't seem outrageous so long as the old ones are still supported for at least six years.
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>>334783032
if it was fake why wouldn't sony respond to it? surely its in their best interest business wise to make sure people aren't holding off on PS4 purchases to get a console that doesn't exist.
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>>334783056
It just means they won't throw resources in and anyone not using the latest PS4 on the market will be treated to a pile of laggy ugly shit
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>>334783173
>if it was fake why wouldn't sony respond to it?
Nintendo hasn't responded to the dozens of NX leaks. Does that mean Nintendo will release a console with dozens of form factors and hardware configurations?
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>>334782038
Not in canadia
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>>334783184

I can see devs getting lazier as if they already weren't
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>>334778683
If this was made in the 90s/early 00s it would've been a MASSIVE HIT.
>>334778439
This wasnt as bad as I thought it would but Tatum was trash and it needed to be a series
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>>334781260
Tore him a new asshole.
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>>334783173
Sony don't respond to rumors, thats been their stance for years.
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>>334783436
FUCK
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>>334781451
>overwatch
>fire watch
>pc exlcusives
as someone who plays on pc mostly
THOSE AREN'T EXCLUSIVES YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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>>334783396
muh

fuckin

dick
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>>334774538

This is easily the worst part of the whole franchise. Remove the Burly Brawl and the Battle of Zion and the latter movies go from awful to alright.

First movie is still God tier. I wish they'd release an HD version with the shitty green filter removed.
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>>334783436
NO
MY 4 YEAR STREAK OF GOING UNSPOOKED
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>>334779114
I'm praying to god the 3DS gets replaced with the next console/hand held thing so I can finally have Monster Hunter on Console again ^_^
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>>334774240
>buy a ps3.5 ("ps4")
>no games
>'mah dark souls: casual edition' ("bloodborne")
>constant bickering with every non sonygger about "no games"
>2 years later, sorny drop real ps4 ("ps4.5")
>promise no reason to buy new "ps4.5" beyond 1080p for kiddie graphics whores
>creates effective class divide between sonygger haves and have-nots

feels hilarious, man
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>slightly overclocked PS4
Not worth the money or upgrade. Just stop playing on consoles altogether if they think this is acceptable. Rethink their cooling method, and pack a shitload more power in it. They should have a surplus of money from selling a 400 dollar box to people.
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>>334783696
>Just stop playing on consoles altogether if they think this is acceptable.
you shoulda done that circa Gamecube, brah
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>>334781407
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>>334781260
DELETE THIS
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>>334783696
They doubled the CUs on the GPU. This is basically a crossfire build with a slight overclock.
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>>334774240
So I don't care about 4k and I'm ok with the current framerate, which seems to be almost locked 30 on BB.

Will I get a discount on old PS4s or something?
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>>334781339
>>Infamous
Berat3d by its own community as a huge letdown.
>>Disgaea 5
Decent RPG. Hardly a system seller.
>>Ratchet and Clank
Meh
>>Driveclub
You can't be serious
>>Until Dawn
"Game"
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>>334783173
Nintendo and Microsoft don't respond to rumors either.
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>>334783837
>Will I get a discount on old PS4s or something?
Yeah. A lot of people will sell theirs when the 4.5 is out.
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>>334783816
The CPU is the biggest thing they need though.
>>
I was gonna buy a ps4 but i guess now i shouldn't since they're making the current one obsolete

Fuck you sony the one good thing about consoles is that they last a long time now you're taking that away are you retarded
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>>334783816

You forgot the RAM upgrade too.

But yeah, it's basically nothing, at the end of the day.
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>>334783436
>.gif
>2.85 MB
not this time
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>>334783858
>Berat3d by its own community as a huge letdown.

how so? and where?
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>>334783558
>musclegirls
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>>334783390
Would they have even allowed it to be on tv back then?
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>inb4 Sony's arrogance once again almost has them commit suicide
It took the PS3 4 years to obtain relevancy back, you'd think Sony would be smarter. Eh I don't think Sony even cares about the playstation brand anymore, it was Kutaragi's baby.
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>>334784001
eat shit fag
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>>334783929
I don't trust used stuff anon.
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>>334783939

It was the bottleneck on the Og and they're just bumping the clock. Pretty stupid if you're gonna do this. Guess zen isn't done

It's clear they plan on keeping 30 in most new games

All ms needs to do is go Intel cpu and amd gpu
>>
>>334783858
>Berat3d by its own community as a huge letdown.
No infamous fan calls it a bad game, but they do say it's the worst one in the series.

>>334783858
>You can't be serious

Have you actually played Driveclub? I was really skeptical at first given the mixed response, but it's actually a pretty good game.
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>>334781791
>take a gamble on the PSU
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>>334784052
Its okay when Sony does it. If NIntendo tried to force developers to support n3DS, they would get completely blacklisted.
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>>334784001
musclegirls are fine
it's the short hair that's shit
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>>334774240
HOLY SH!T, the upgrade is actually impressive. so... much... computing power... MIND BLOWN! I guess Sony does always win... huh, baby?
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>>334774240
Marketing campaign
they are going to fuck the ps4 buyers
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>>334783837
GameSpot will definitely have a trade in deal but it will probably be shit
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>>334784054
>musclegirls
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cpu is sitll gonna be bottlenecked. whats the pont?
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>You actually bought the PS4!!!
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>>334784232
Gamespot has always had a trade in deal on consoles. You've been able to trade in your console for $200 for a while now.
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>>334784194
>millions of now gimped and obsolete units sold
>AAA devs will only bother making optimized versions for the improved system, regular PS4 systems will be getting 10fps 720p pieces of trash
>>
WHEN CAN I PREORDER THIS BADBOY

rip in piece microsoft
>>
>be kid ask for a ps4
>parents bring home cheapest poverty station 4
>but I thought this is what you wanted honey

Kek
>>
>>334774240
It'll be interesting to see how Microsoft counter this. It's already known that Microsoft are developing their upgraded console as well. I wonder if Microsoft will risk taking a bigger hit in profits per unit sold just to have superior hardware this time round at a similar price point as the ps4k. Rumor has it that Microsoft are with nvidia and IBM now.
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>>334784104

>Guess zen isn't done

Last word from the investor's meeting is its on track per the roadmap.
>>
I thought the whole point of consoles was not sinking money into upgrades?

>Console cucks will never ever upgrade their gaming machine as they see fit
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>>334784289

More eyecandy at 30 fps

Less downgrades?
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Don't worry early adopters.

Each PS4K will come with a free drum of anal lube.
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>>334784045
Cable maybe with some toning down of gay shit. Showtime/HBO or something of that sort
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>>334784357

IBM ragequit nearly all their fabs and are mostly focusing on POWER chips - they won't be in consoles for a long, long time.
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FUCK YOU EARLY ADOPTERS!
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>>334784304
What disc is that?
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>>334784247
eat shit fag
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>>334784304
Isn't setting it up vertically suicide?
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>>334784510
knack probably
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>>334784329
This is a bad thing why?
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>no "cloud powers"
>can't (see: MS - Pacific Rift) / won't do backwards compatibility
>made to look the greedy chump by micro and flaccid
>'don't own games' cucktroversy dead
>no games
>nowhere to turn
>release Playstation 4: Chumpion Edition

why are you faggots still on this console cuckold ride?
>>
>>334784510
Japanese Pedophile Simulator 28
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>>334784532
She's the only acceptable Musclegirl
>>
>JUST stick it in your PlayStation!
>>
>>334784665
not the only
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>>334784563
because people spent hundreds of dollars are now getting fucked over unless you spend hundreds more. Do you seriously think Ubisoft and EA will bother making optimized games? It'll be like all the downgraded Wii ports of HD games. Complete half assed garbage made by C tier development teams.
>>
I lucked the fuck out being poor the entire time the PS4 has been released, I'm finally getting good income and will be ready to get this.
>>
>>334779084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2J98CvVau4
>O3DS runs at 15 fps
>N3DS has enemies at 30 FPS and everything else at 60 fps
>Both look like dogshit

Who on earth would pick up this version over the Wii U one?
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>>334784815
Are you saying they bother making optimized games now?
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>>334785003
exclusive content for the 3ds version
its stupid
>>
>>334774240
Is this confirmed tho?
>>
>>334774240
For those of you who don't know the code name "neo" is making reference to a character that Keanu Reeves played in the movie trilogy series called "The Matrix.
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>>334775918
trade in some games at the 'stop, where value is always in stock!
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>>334781260
fucking demolished, kek.
>>
What a joke.
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>>334781260
Rekt & kek'd.
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This is the greatest FUCK YOU in gaming history.

This is worse than 32X.

This is worse than $599 USD

This is worse than the Xbone.

Sony is the king of consumer ass rape. This is the greatest fuck you in gaming history.
>>
>>334785003
>Who on earth would pick up this version over the Wii U one?
Those who want the exclusive content.

Yea, i was pretty upset too. Im not too keen on buying the same game twice, just for a few extra stages and characters.
>>
>>334785506
>>334785072
If you mean the bonus characters, you don't have to buy the 3DS version for that.
>>
>CODE NAME: BUTT BLASTER
>>
So when they re-re-re-release the Last of Us in 4K, you sonyggers going to triple dip?
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Chad Warden on suicide watch!
>>
will they get rid of paid online at least? Between paying 400 dollars and 150 for 3 years of online, I'm not liking paying another 400 with the online fee
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>>334785480
HAHAHA

FUCK YOU EARLY ADOPTERS LOL
should've waited like us smart people you cuck
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>mfw Nintendo will have the shittier console again
The NX will be g-good guys I swear.
>>
Tfw idorts win again
>>
>>334785727
>Buh buh buh Nintendo!!

Get this kid some Preparation H to sooth his horrible anal pain.
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>>334785727
>specs determine best console
>n-n-nintendo!
christ
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>/v/ bitches endlessly about PS4 being underpowered
>Sony releases an option for higher-end graphics
>NO-NO THIS IS CHEATING SONY YOU LIARS

There is no pleasing /v/ when it comes to Sony I've found out you. You're all so incredibly buttflustered.

Oh, and let's not forget that Nintendo already did this with the 3DS, yet everyone was quiet back then.
>>
Face it playstation pals.

You don got screwed. I can't believe sony is even doing this. Did they wake up one day and take retard pills? I don't get it?
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>>334785727
>nx specs not annoyced
>this shit releases 2 years after ps4
>sonycucks
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>>334785850
>This much damage control.

PC fans only have to upgrade one component.

You have to buy an entirely new console.

You're a fucking idiot if you defend this. It's bad for gamers, it's bad for playstation fans, and it's really bad for the industry.

Fuck you fanboy.
>>
>>334782051
MGSV
>>
wait a fuckin' minute. this means we will get refunds for the inferior versions? I just bought my PS4 2 days ago and I've been saving months to buy it. the walmart tech expert told me it's the best choice I could have made.
>>
>>334782102
What's wrong with you?
>>
>>334785937
Upgrade one component that also costs $400. And it's optional. I haven't bought a new GPU in years and I won't buy the PS4K. Because it's optional. Nintendo were the true jews making certain games locked to N3DS.

You should proceed to kill yourself.
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>everyone hated the bone at launch
>nintendo abandons the wiiu 6 months later
>sony admits the ps4 is a massive flop and just can't cut it
>cinematic 19fps just isnt enough anymore
>make youre player base buy an entire new console or the games will look like garbage
>microsoft is the only company not raping the assholes of their loyal customers

T
O
P

K
E
K

F
O
R

T
H
E

P
L
A
Y
E
R
S

>CONSOLES
>EVER

lmao
>>
>>334786053

Nope. No refunds. And the best part is the trade in value on the PS4 is already pretty low, and it will only get lower when the new machine is released. Stores will know that tons of people will be desperate to dump their inferior original consoles, so they'll buy them back really cheap.
>>
>>334786102
>microsoft is the only company not raping the assholes of their loyal customers
So it's true then. MS shills really are the ones shitposting now.
>>
>>334786053
>this means we will get refunds for the inferior versions?
>I've been saving months to buy it.
>the walmart tech expert
>it's the best choice I could have made.

damn son be a bit more subtle.
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>>334786085
>Buh buh Nintendo! Buh buh buh PC! It's ok when Sony does it! Kill yourself faggot!

Reminds me of this image.
>>
>>334786053
Of course. You get a full refund and a blowjob from Kaz himself.
>>
Damn son! You don goofed if you bought this shit.
>>
>THEY FELL FOR THE PS4 MEME
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>Post yfw newer games can't play on the older PS4
>>
Wouldn't all PS4 games need an update to take advantage of the upgraded hardware?
>>
>>334786156
>stating fact is now shilling
kill yourself
I'm not the same guy, so don't get mad at him you cuck
>>
>original console obsolete after only 2 years
>still no games
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>>334786102
Crash is inbound

>Post yfw
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>post yfw you didn't buy a ps4
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>>334786195
>PC fans
>"I love video games!"
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>>334786373
3 years
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>>334786373
Isn't it 3? How long it's been?
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>>334786294
More likely every game will have a normal (NEO) mode and a downgrade mode. Imagine being that kid at school having friends over and they ask why it looks so shitty compared to their at home. Kek
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>>334786364
Nice try samefag shill
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>>334786195
>Sony does same thing as everyone else
>It's worse when Sony does it
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>>334786354
Yes which is why you should only expect first party games to give a rat's ass
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well... at least we will finally be gaming at 4k 60fps? right?
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>>334786480
I should be grateful for not getting into this gen
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>>334786364
K

Y

S
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>>334786492

>Implying sony is doing the same thing as everyone else.

Oh shit the damage control in this thread is hilarious.

I can practically taste the bitter tears.
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>>334786492
It IS worse when Sony does it.
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>Yes Kaz! Yes! Stick it up my butt!
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>>334786373

It has a bigger list of upcoming games than xbone, wii8/nx put together.
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I'm no tech expert, can someone explain what just happened? I mean the numbers look higher so that's a great thing, right?
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>>334786756
>Buhbuhbuh muh cherry picking and indie titles!! It's gunna have games someday!

Literally no games.
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>>334786753
It's not like anyone's defending this shit here
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Can anyone actually link me to anything surrounding this or are we just gonna believe everything OP says again?
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>>334786768
>unified memory
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YOU

ACTUALLY

BOUGHT

A

PS4!!!
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>bought a ps4 for my wife's son
>he's screaming that I got him an inferior version and that ps4.5 is coming out soon
>my wife doesn't allow me to see her son anymore

wow sony, can't believe I trused you. you ruined my family.
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>>334786834
http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/sources-the-upgraded-playstation-4-is-codenamed-ne/1100-5437/
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I ----LITERALLY---- BOUGHT A PS4 Y E S T E R D A Y WHAT THE FUCK?
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I seriously wouldn't fucking mind if it was something similar to N64 expansion pack
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>>334774240
>the CPU is just, again jaguar cores
so did they just OC the GPU?
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>>334786670
How is it different from buying a new GPU or N3DS? Please explain.
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Man just when I thought Sony would finallu be pulling their heads out of their asses after seeing their great PS4 reveal, they pull this shit. This is bigger than 599 US DOLLARS. This is just purely fucking over their consumer base. And Microsoft is planning the same thing.

This is the absolute worst generation ever.
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>Actually forcing people to buy a new console.

Wow. WTF?
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>>334786967
Don't you have one week policy? Return it you fucking retard
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The difference will be insignificant, but its enough for me to never again buy a console during its lifecycle.
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>>334787051

The only difference is that Microsoft is smart enough to make their new system modular. Meaning in the future you can just buy upgrade parts instead of buying a new console.

We all know there's going to be yet another PS4 upgrade. This won't be the last one.
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>>334774240
I just bought a fucking ps4 like 2 months ago fuck this shit
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>that one xcuck shitposter spamming his little heart out
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>>334786891
Don't worry, Jerome will steal a ps4.5 for him and hopefully they'll forgive you and let you take care of their son again
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>now that the info is out microsoft can one up sony by putting in even better specs than ps4 neo

IT'S OVER, MS WINS AFTER ALL
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>>334787051
>And Microsoft is planning the same thing.

What the fuck they're doing?
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>>334787108
>The difference will be insignificant

Not with these specs. The difference is going to be quite noticeable. It's also going to give online players an advantage as their machines will perform better on Sony's shit online network.
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>>334786967
Have you been living under a rock the last two weeks since these rumors have been flying around?

Either way rest easy. You have not made a mistake. Don't buy a half-step. Adopt every third generation of a platform if you can. Enjoy your PS4 and be happy you didn't buy the system that sunk the PlayStation brand.
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>>334787029
The GPU got its CUs doubled so at least that will be about 100% faster, but yeah the CPU is just a shit overclock
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>>334787183
B-but based Spencer is saving gaming with Console OS 10.
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>>334787043
When I buy a new GPU I don't need to throw the rest of my computer away.
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I wasn't a PC gamer until this generation. I always hated PC games and PC gamers. Now I realize that PC truly was the way to go this generation. This is the worst console generation ever. Hopefully it will also probably be the last.
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>>334787183

sony leads the way in 4k, graphics, VR, games and sales. it is breeding jealousy in the Xcucks and Pcucks so they have to somehow spin an upgraded, more powerful PS4 as a negative thing.
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>>334787191
>IT'S OVER, MS WINS AFTER ALL
You can stop samefagging now xcuck.
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>>334787130
How will that even work though? There's no expansion ports on my Xbone.
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>>334787219
>uwp
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>>334787269
>Inferior console gaming that can't actually do 4K
>Inferior VR that doesn't hold a candle to the better PC stuff
>Fucking over 40 million people by making your two year old console obsolete.

You literally have shit coming out of our mouth. How does it taste? Because you clearly like it.
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>>334787290
Go home, nigger.
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sounds like gay gimmicky bullshit desu
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>mfw FFXIV manages to integrate PS3, PS4 and PC online together
How the fuck are they doing it?
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The rage of the gaystation kids in this thread is hilarious.

4THEPLAYERS
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>>334782102
You are not alone.
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>>334787337
>two year old console obsolete

Three year old actually
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>>334787373
famesag
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waaait... we can sue Sony now, can we? they promised 1080p 60fps = didn't deliver. Promised the consoles will last years = it didn't. They lied to our faces.
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>>334787231
You need to throw your old GPU away.
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Reminder that Microsoft hires Pakis to shitpost and shill MS products. They're here on 4chan.
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>>334774240
>tfw you bought a PS4 quite recently
FUCKING WHY SONY?
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GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS

Since they're releasing a whole new console does it atleast have backwards compatibility?
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>>334787590
Holy fuck you are schizophrenic.
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>>334774350
PS4 is based on AMD's APU which uses system RAM as Video memory.
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>>334787612
>you have to re-buy all your PS4 games in their "updated" versions for NEO

#4THEPLAYERS
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>>334786457
>>334786441
2. Q4 this year is 3.
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>>334787618
Hello MS friend. Done your post quota of the day?
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>>334787612
Yeah, with PS4 games.
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>>334787598
this is pretty much how technology works. buy the latest graphics card and a new one comes out in 2 months. buy a flagship cellphone and a better comes out in 2 months. its just the way things are. To be honest you should be excited. 4k gaming, vr, 60FPS 1080p, etc. Its a good thing, stop buying into the meme and hating on a good thing.

really not seeing how offering your customers more powerful hardware is a bad thing. gamers want this shit, why are people so mad?
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>>334777792
To Justify still being priced at $400.
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THAT'S IT. I'm never trusting Sony EVER AGAIN. My wife's husband is going to buy me an Xbox One tomorrow. Shoud've been loyal and stayed with Microsoft.
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>>334787745

Heh
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Reminder that MS shills are here and droning. They've been on /v/ for atleast a year now, shilling Xbone and W10 while shitposting everything else.
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>>334780459
>I'm fucking obsessed with the recent developments in VR, making this so much worse
Then why the fuck would you want Sony's one? It'll be the worst of the lot by far.
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>>334787598
My dudebro cousin lost his shit 2bh, his wife fucking shouting at him for wasting that much money when I broke the news in front of her
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>Rumor: PS4.5 will have substantial HW upgrade and exclusives
BASED SONY 4THEPLAYERS
>Rumor: PS4.5 will not have substantial HW upgrade or exclusives
BASED SONY 4THEPLAYERS

Are Sonyggers the blindest fanboys?
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>>334786569
this isn't a "gen" -- it's a degeneracy
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>>334786373
>PS4 had less games than PS3
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Guys I think the news are fake. No way Sony would fuck so many players over by releasing a new console so early. Relax.
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>>334787851
>Are Sonyggers the blindest fanboys?
if incessant fapping to hentai makes one blind, then yes
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>>334778439
I think it had potential, but then they went and made it Twilight in space.
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>Buy a new iphone
>a year later there's a new one
>WOOOOOOOOW FUCKING TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENTS FUCK APPLE
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>>334787935
Giant Bomb broke the news it's legit, they'll fuck up big time if it turns out false
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>>334788025
>literally defending sony
wow how much do they pay you?
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>>334787830
>Being this schizophrenic

Fuck sony and fuck you.
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>>334788025
I would indeed be pissed if Apple had a record since 1995 of only releasing upgraded hardware every 5-6 years
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why do people buy consoles within the first 3 years?

don't the know the better version is coming?
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>bought PS4 2 years ago
>played mostly Destiny on it

It was worth it for the Destiny at least. But fuck Sony, I aint buying any of their shit from now on
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>>334787830
Reminder that Sony hires people to slander the competition on social media sites.
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>>334787830
>b-b-b-but microsoft!!
Fuck off sonygger
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>>334788115
Same Paki defending his shilling. You're lucky /v/ moderation is so incompetent they haven't banned you and your Paki friends.
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>>334788025

Isn't that exactly what we were mocking PCfats about before?
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>>334788183
you can play destiny on ps3, retard
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>>334788025
>It's ok when sony does it!
>Phones are the same as consoles!

It's clear that the paid sony shills have gotten their marching orders.

We're going to keep hearing these two bullshit lines over and over again.

You'll also hear deflection techniques like:

>But but but Nintendo 3DS!

Console =/= Portable

And who can forget the classic..

>But but but there are paid Microsoft shills here!

And let's not forget...

>But but but PC!

This thread is comedy gold. I'm happy to see playstation retards getting fucked over this badly. They deserve it more than anyone.
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>>334781260
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>>334787851
I'm not sure where you're getting this logic from. Do you visit NeoGAF regularly?
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>>334788140
Can you translate this post to something that makes sense?
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>>334788256
>It's okay when nintendo does it
I see through you, nintenshill
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>>334788273
This exact thread, and all the threads about the PS4.5 being more powerful. Sorry you're so new you didn't see them.
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>>334788256
>console =/= portable for the beloved new 3ds which actually has exclusive games
Spotted the rabid Nintendicksucker
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>finally after all these years of 599 us dollars and hacked online services redeem your ruined reputation and have the best selling console
>pull this shit

Are they deliberately TRYING to fuck their shit up?
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>>334788456
>But but but Nintendo!!!

You could fill a gallon jug with all these bitter tears.
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>>334775918
Kingdom Hearts is embarassing fag shit garbage on top of that. You're stupid & pathetic on a level that seems just cruel of God for making you that way.
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>>334774240

Woah.
I know Bloodborne.
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>console is "underpowered"
KEK PS4 SUCKS NOGAMESSTATION4 xD

>console is improved and is made 4k and VR capable
KEK PS4 SUCKS NOGAMESSTATION4 xD

so much fucking mad lel. PCs can't even do 4k stable with 980s, now PS4 is gonna do it on console for the price of a 980ti. Its pretty easy to understand why the """"""""""""""master race"""""""""""""" is so incredibly assravaged.
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If you ever needed more evidence that you should never ever early adopt a console ever again, this should finally drill it into your head.

Why even bother buying a PS4.5? PS5 is going to be x86 too, right? What a clusterfuck.

We'll see how it goes.
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>>334788420
Most of the time when you see a Sony thread on /v/, it's a shitposting megapalooza. I should've steered clear from this thread too.
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Gamestop CEO said yesterday at some event that the NX PS4K and Xbox..whatever will all be shown at E3. I would never take gamestops word into account but it's being treated with so much media like ign etc even in the newspaper today that I feel like this E3 will actually be good. By good I mean shown something Atleast.


Here's hoping for some games !!!
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>>334788567

He posted this through a veil of bitter tears. This was the only response he could muster.
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>>334788567


Now that's asspain for you
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>>334788251

Ofcourse I can
At sub 720p and shitty framerates. Just like most PS4K games will run on PS4.
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>>334788601
As long as sonyggers are in it, yeah it's shitposting megapalooza.
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>>334784376
You enjoy it enough from Dequan, rscottycuck. :^)
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RIP NX
You didn't even make it out of the starting gate.
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>>334788602

This is going to be the last year for E3.

Disney has pulled out
Activision has pulled out
EA has pulled out
Wargaming has pulled out

And a number of small devs too.

EA is actually holding their own expo, that's open to the public, to compete directly with E3.

And last, but not least, E3 is usually booked years in advance. There is no booking for next year.

It's over. E3 is finished.
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Depending on price I'll probably get one, but I want it in White
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>>334788183

Who are you trying to fool, you'll buy it anyway.
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>>334788540
No thanks to the Remasterstation 4 anon. You have to admit that Nintendo started this mess, and that it's pure cancer.
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>>334788681

Whatever
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>>334788702
>bbbbbbbbuuuhh nintendos!!!
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>>334788610
>>334788617
you wasted 1k+ dollars on a pc that can't even do 4k and now I'll be able to do it for less than half the price. no matter what you say I win and you lose instantly based off this fact alone :) any response you make now I'll just write off as asspain, because, ya'know, the facts are on my side, not yours.
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>>334788636
Sonyggers shitpost their own product?
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>>334776570
I regret not buying a ps3. I somewhat regret buying a ps4.
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>>334788624
You paid for a new console just to play at higher framerate and resolution. Might as well buy ps4.5 too.
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>>334788748
>It's gunna be just as good I swear!

This is exactly that you gaystation cucks said about the original PS4.

REKT
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>>334783564
>I wish they'd release an HD version with the shitty green filter removed.
You got me good with that.
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>>334788735
Calm your autism down anon or mommy won't get you your tendies
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>>334788834
>autism! tendies meme!

Man this thread is comedy gold.

E3 can't come soon enough.
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>>334788805
>just as good

kek pcucks confirmed for retarded. don't you mean its gonna be significantly better? PS4k can actually do 4k unlike 980tis or Titans.
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>>334787440

It's not November yet so 2 years old

Nice try
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>A special message from Kaz Hirai and Sony to current PS4 owners.
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>>334788864
I see your (You) and raise you a (You)
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>>334788702

This was being done long before Nintendo started doing it. All those partial upgrades from Atari come to mind.
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>>334781792
But you still are paying the same 360$ for 6 AAA games you stupid cuck
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>>334788879
>PS4k can actually do 4k

Actually it can't. It can only do 4K in video playback. That's the most hilarious part. It's even more hilarious that you don't already know this.
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>>334778592
The N3DS is the first time the system's new iterations actually run the games on them better

The GBA SP/Micro, and the DS Lite and DSi were all hardware revisions but they still played every game on the system exactly the same. Nothing like Monster Hunter or Hyrule Warriors running better and looking better on a N3DS
>>
Face it drones.

You got boned.
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>>334788968
prove it
>>
Who fucking cares?
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>>334788748

>and now I'll be able to do it for less than half the price

What makes you think this time is different? You've been given empty promises before.
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>>334774240
If they actually do this, it'll just train consumers to wait 3 years before buying their next system.

Then again, if microsoft is doing the same, and nintendo going full retard all the time, I guess that's what everyone is pushing console gamers to...
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>>334789071
>>334788968
>PS4K
>4k literally in the name

but PCucks need to believe it can't do 4k to save their fragile little egos.
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>>334789071

BUT THIS TIME IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT YOU FAGGOT PC KEK!
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Relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_qNqBloKU4
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>>334789108
I'll get to see how true what I've always said is. When console players would say PCs have to be upgraded every year I always thought "No they don't, but if a new more powerful console came out every year a bunch of people would still upgrade."
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>>334789115
>He actually believes these specs can do 4K gaming!

BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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>>334788683

No Kaz
This(if it turns out true) will really be the final nail, Kaz
I bought PS3 for FF XIII and Last Guardian, Kaz
You let xbox have Final Fantasy and never released Last Guardian, Kaz
You said PS4 is for the players, Kaz
And I belived you, Kaz
3 years later there're 3 games worth shit on PS4, Kaz
I played Crash Bandicoot as a kid, Kaz.
Now my kids are playing Rayman Legends on PS4 Kaz
But this is it Kaz
This is much support as a customer I can afford
Sorry Kaz
This was a long ride
But I think I can finally let go
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>>334789115
It'll be able to output at 4k for blurays and upscaling purposes sure, but I really doubt they're gonna get any AAA titles running at native 4k. At least not at anything even close to resembling a decent framerate. There will probably be a lot more games that can at least do 1080p 30FPS though.

Maybe they could have some 2D indie stuff running at 4k, I dunno.
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>>334789223
To be fair, I upgrade my pc at most every 3.5 years to keep up at my standard, so this, is pretty much the same shit. Just less payoff.

Soooo looking forward to those pascal cards.
>>
That is so retarder. Like how is this even legal?
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>>334789115

Nigga the Nintendo 64 was literally named after its 64 bit NEC processor and it hardly utilized it. This could just be a marketing After all the shit we've been told by companies, how can you be so sure?
>>
>Buy a PC in 2006
>Do incremental upgrades as I can afford them
>Use the same computer for almost 10 years
>Only now it's finally starting to show it's age and I'm going to build a new machine

The PC gaming model is just better for everyone. Consoles are over. Face it. You know it's true.
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>>334789310
Don't look at the cell phone market, you'll probably have a heart attack.
>>
Do I need to buy a 4k TV for this?
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>>334789367

Cell phones are something people actually need, use every day, and rely on for work and home.

Video game consoles are expensive toys.
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>>334789223
I think it has more to do that the hardware was pretty weak at launch and Xbone and PS4 pressed the prices down by cutting down on the hardware for fear of Nintendo.
Now that weaker hardware is coming back to bite time (along with other reasons), so business wise it makes sense to make this one more stable version.
Very doubtful they would make this and annual or happen every 3rd year.
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>>334789302
I upgrade basically whenever I start being unable to run new games at the settings I want. Which so far has been roughly every 5 years.
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Is Sony really that worried about the NX being more powerful?
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Since I didn't buy the base PS4 due to no games, then this shit is okay for me. If they repeat with PS5 I'm ok too because it'll have 3 years with no games and then they'll do the same.

For the payers.
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>>334789401
Yes. Of course. It isn't just going to run 4K resolution video on your current TV.
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>>334789464
Probably nore worried about AAA games barely staying above 20 FPS at times. That and outputting blurys at 4k, like most standalone bluray players do these days.
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where is the proof it can't do 4k. why would they call it 4k and advertise 4k capabilities and just lie about it? that would be illegal. what kind of mental gymnastics do you have to be doing to think that a console called PS4K can't do 4K? I just literally do not get it.

>b-b-b-buh they are lying
PROVE IT. /v/ loves calling every popular developer evil kikes and charlatans, its more about being jaded bitter elitist contrarians than actually knowing what they are talking about or caring for consumers
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>>334789404
Irrelevant in terms of constant upgrading and planned obsolescence.
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>>334789464

I think after Wii they've decided not to take any more chances.
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>codenames their VR headset Morpheus
>"is that from the Matrix?"
>"no it's the god of dreams from Greek mythology guise honest"
>codenames machine that runs VR goggles Neo
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>4K resolution @ 15 rock solid frames per second
>VR which will launch with four hardware demos and stop with any games entirely

I want off this meme train
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>>334789546

>Where is the proof it can't do 4k

Isn't that attempting to prove a negative?
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>>334789464
>Implying anyone is worried about what nintendo is doing

Nintendo hasn't been going after the same market as anyone else in earnest since the gamecube.
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>>334789484
This works out especially well for me, I didn't get a PS3 until just before the PS4 launch and I was gonna do the same for the PS4 whenever they announced a PS5. Looks like I'm getting a PS4.5 a bit earlier than anticipated but at least I didn't have to buy the same console twice.
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>>334787258
I'm too lazy for pc gaming. I buy games, find out I need to download mods or have to spend ages tweaking it to get it to run acceptably and just give up.

Now it's been sat gathering dust and I'm afraid to turn it on without cleaning it but can't be bothered. Nothings really that enjoyable anyway.
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>>334787749
Probably because what you're gaining isn't worth paying full price for all over again. It's a pitiful upgrade.
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Ever since console games stopped being coded in assembly and stopped being exclusive, PC has been a better option.
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>>334789639
agreed, these guys waste ~2k to play DOTA2 and CSGO and spend hours and 25gigs to turn skyrim into a porn game

>PC """""""""gaming"""""""""
lol
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>>334789639
The only real badside to PC gaming is sitting and doing it on a desk. Syre you can plug it into the TV, but there are an insanely low amount of TVs with display lag low enough to make Tv PC gaming tolerable.
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So what graphics could should I compare a PS4k to?
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>>334789748
>4k gaming
>VR
>"pitiful upgrade"

literally the definition of mad right here. all the features top tier PC equipment struggles to manage being done on a console, and its a """"""""""""""""pitiful upgrade""""""""""""""" to you
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>>334788596
>early adopt
It's been out for like 3 years.
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>>334789854
well consider that its capable of 4k and VR while 980TIs in SLI + i7s can barely handle 4k at a playable framerate. its a game changer folks, this is the real deal.
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So this is what they meant when they said Greatness Awaits. Woah...
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>>334789546

Could just be a marketing gimmick. It's possible games would run so poorly that no dev would ever utilize the 4k capabilities. They could tell you "Well, we didn't lie. It can technically do 4k. It's just that it will always be 10 fps". N64 worked much the same. Rarely did they utilize their 64-bit CPU. Probably for the same reason, games would probably run like shit. But technically it can be called Nintendo 64 because it does have a 64-bit processor.

I'm not jaded, I've just seen this shit countless times before. I'm not too broken up about it though. I liked my N64, my 3DS, my PS3. I like these systems. I just don't expect them to be as amazing as I used to.
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>>334789919
this. it's Sony's Pascal.
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I'd buy it if they made Dark Souls 3 run at 60 fps on it.
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>Switch off cable to playstation vue
>Saving $1200 on cable a year
>Wanted to get a ps4 for the living room to use as a more robust unit than just having a fire stick and for get togethers

I mean, I have reason to get this, but it still just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I should check if the jackbox party pack is on ps3...
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So? It's the same shit that happened with the 3DS, who cares?
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>>334790075
But it's okay when nintendo does it.
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>>334790002
>watching tv
is this year 2000?
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>>334789583
Neo just means new. Eg neo-/v/.
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>>334790117
its pretty fucked up

Nintendo can censor games, release rehashes, release physical DLC toys, send cease and desist to fan artists and independent content creators, and peddle out a cheap underpowered console with childrens games, yet people will argue and fight to defend it

meanwhile the PS4 is upgraded with 4k and VR capabilities and /v/ is mad as fuck about it? how does this shit make sense. I know its a meme but your post is so fucking true. the cognitive dissonance in some people I swear.
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>>334790126
I didn't want any cable, but the rest of my family did, so this was the compromise. I have them set up with vue, they use my netflix, hulu, and amazon video, fire sticks in everybody's TV, costs them $100 less a month than before. It works out.
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>>334787337
>4k ready console at $400, while a 4k ready GPU at PS4 level quality costs exactly $400, plus the CPU to support it
>low price VR that still gives you the immersive experience, without drilling holes into your wall
>allows PS4 players to play with PS4K players, people who are willing to dish out the money to get better graphics will still play with others (exactly like PC users do)
lmao so mad big boy xdddd
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>>334789860
While I have a pc I think pc gaming is somewhat overrated and a lot of its downsides are ignored by people here.

I'm basically a Sonycuck now because it's less hassle for me. I'm just saying that this upgrade is a joke. VR is pure marketing. Being able to "do" VR doesn't mean it will do it well. There are shitty plaatic face mounts for your iPhone which claim to be VR as well.
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>>334790265
I love how much people ragged on the ps4 and xbone for being too underpowered, didn't have any fucking issue when nintendo released a handheld with one analog and a sub standard def screen.

Disc locked content? Who cares!

The double standard exists, but it's always existed for everything among retarded fanboys of anything out there.
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What are they gonna do for Trinity?
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>>334790289
>he still lives with his parents
Do you have to ask mommy if you can play your shooty games?
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>>334789887
>3 years
Right, and it's already being replaced by a machine that will apparently play all of its games. So why should anyone have purchased a PS4 in the first place?

Why would anyone buy a console in the first place now when there is going to be a backwards compatible better version in 3 years? Especially with how long it takes to get a fucking game out the door nowadays.

If they had told people at launch that a better version was coming in 3 years, how many people do you think would have still purchased it?

Exactly. Like I said, we'll see what happens with this.
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>>334790519
haha xD
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>>334790519
I live with my dad and my sister.

We bought a 4200 square foot home together and save a huge amount of money and have a lot more frills working together.

But hey, whatever lets you feel good about yourself.
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>>334790558
>Right, and it's already being replaced by a machine that will apparently play all of its games. So why should anyone have purchased a PS4 in the first place?

cellphones and pc equipment is the same way and people byu it everyyear. PS4 owners will be the same when they see the benefits. those that do not, can still play all the same games except VR. No one loses in this situation. The diehard gamers get what they want with better graphics, the casual gamers get what they want with a console that lets them play all the games they could want to
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>>334790265

>children games

Why does this even matter? Most of us started playing video games as children. Kids shouldn't be barred completely from playing video games just because manchildren are no longer the children of today.

It's like if we were banned from playing video games in the 80s and 90s.
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>>334790642
>i live with my dad and my sister

what do you do when you want to fuck your gf? go to her place?
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>>334790771

That or get a motel.
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>>334790771
Did you grow up being taught that having a sexual relationship is something you have to hide? If someone wants a girlfriend or boyfriend to stay over, we are adults, no one gives a shit. It's not like any of us even have a clue when it might be happening.
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>>334790960
but then your dad and sister have to sit there and listen to the moaning and dirty talk. i'd feel weird. how do you not feel weird after that ?
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>>334790960
>Did you grow up being taught that having a sexual relationship is something you have to hide?
Welcome to America, where sex and nudity is the worst thing ever and you are supposed to voluntarily enter poverty at 18 or else you aren't an adult.
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>>334790702
>cellphones and pc equipment is the same way
Consoles are attractive BECAUSE they don't require upgrading. The PC and phone markets are also slowing down.
>PS4 owners will be the same when they see the benefits.
What benefits? The OP explicitly states that this machine isn't going to get any exclusive games or content.
>No one loses in this situation
Then why even release it? Why release a machine with no exclusive content, just for a failed gimmick attachment, just to have two SKUs sitting on the shelf?
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>>334791030
Read the whole post. Big house, it's not a shack, we literally aren't all living in a closet laying on top of each other.
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>>334790960

>Did you grow up being taught that having a sexual relationship is something you have to hide?

Not him but I did. Same with my aunts, uncles, and mom. Dad probably didn't, but then he also did drugs, got into trouble, etc. Didn't really care about shit like that.

>>334791038

Also this.
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>>334790960
Depends on the family.
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loving the "no exclusives" retards, the gpu has double the cu's of the original so to think you'll be able to run any new games at playable framerates your a real fool or a defense force shill.
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>>334791038
Everybody is a result of fucking.

80% of our music is about love and fucking.

Sex is a major component of our advertising structure.

Regardless of all this, sex and nudity are still treated as worse than references of drugs, drinking, smoking, or extreme violence.

Everybody wants to pretend that they are dating/married to someone just to hold hands or some shit, like they all go home and sleep in separate rooms. It's weird.
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>>334791465
The source talks about all games being required to have settings for both hardware config.

What that means is just that devs will be lazy and not get the most out of the new hardware.
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>>334791576
But would this be like developing a game for PS4 and the PC? Like sure 1 of the two is stronger but that doesn't mean the other will suffer every time garantied.
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>>334791727
b-but muh $30 4k movie rentals
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>>334791727
No, it would be like developing a game for the ps4, you just build for the system that already has a massive install base and then test for the newer smaller based neo hardware by seeing what graphical flair you can add and still maintain a decent framerate.

The one with the smaller base will suffer, every time.
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>>334791576
>What that means is just that devs will be lazy and not get the most out of the new hardware.
That just means the 1080p 15fps games on PS4 will hopefully have 60fps on PS4K. Games already look good enough for now. Save the money, and focus on games running better/having additional features. For example, the number of enemies present on screen in Hyrule Warriors was a bit dissapointing for my first musou, while One Piece PW3 felt like it actually had enough enemies.

I'm quite tired of these games that don't run efficiently because they want to focus too much on pushing the hardware just for worthless graphic fidelity.
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>>334791938
PS3 to ps4 multiplats have been sooooo good for this for me.

60 fps, pretty, better draw distance, more enemies, I love it. Just do that.
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>>334791895
Now I'm curious how it went with the (N)3DS games. Other than Hyrule Warriors, do games run almost the exact same because developers don't want to alienate the bigger install base? Or do games run the same with the N3DS games looking better?
It's the closest thing we have to the Neo so it would be interesting to know.
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>>334792109
>do games run almost the exact same because developers don't want to alienate the bigger install base?
I imagine we saw as big of a difference in Hyrule Warriors as we did because of its use of multiple enemies, thus putting more strain on the CPU. An average 3DS game probably benefits from the stronger CPU in a more insignificant way, or possibly not at all. It wouldn't be because they don't want to alienate the bigger install base, but because there isn't a big enough change in hardware to make a superior game on a regular basis.

>Or do games run the same with the N3DS games looking better?
How can you make games look any better when you are limited by the same exact shitty resolution? No matter how good you make the game look, the resolution is a bottleneck. Play some DS games through emulation with high resolution textures and you will see.
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>All this impotent shitposting

Classic /v/
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