Dark Souls 3 Covenants are absolute garbage.
>no gravelord covenant to curse other worlds
>no rat covenant to lure people into your world
>no honorable duel dragon covenant
>no justice covenant to invade faggots who dickwraith and sin.
>three fucking covenants that do nothing but auto-summon you to defend a particular zone
>two more fucking covenants on the way of blue, one that auto summons you to defend a player who is invaded, one more that auto-summons you to defend a player who was invaded, BUT only against aldrich guys.
>Purple boner covenant for trolls who try to backstab you when you're fighting enemies, and will never ever get summoned after week 1
>>334773565
Just because it does not work does not mean its bad
>>334773617
It's bad because there's no variety
Why are there 2 (two) Blue Sentinels?
Hush little Host of Embers. Just sit back and let us do all the work for you.
>here's the worst, dysfunctional covenants--WHY AREN'T THEY INCLUDED?!?!!?!
Not to to mention that the watchdogs covenant entirely doesn't work for some people, including me
>>334773676
One is to accept help from the Blue Sentinels, the other is to be a Blue Sentinel.
I think PvP is great they just need to remove way of the blue and always summon blue dudes to help red invasions. Also fix/make it easier to invade people with the loyal servant covenants.
>>334773676
>Why are there 2 (two) Blue Sentinels?
Three if you count the one that lets you summon blues into your world to defend you
>>334773835
Theres one to be a blue sentinel against red phantoms and another to be a blue sentinel against aldrich phantoms.
Why could there not just be one?
Why does it take hours to get fucking summoned as a blue, only for the host to pussy out by disconnecting?
>>334773565
Yeah, was a bit underwhelmed how boring they are and how you join them.
Also
>no sin system
Why why why why why why why why
>>334773676
>>334773835
There are 2 blue sentinels separate from way of blue, the actual blue sentinels and the darkmoons, both of which do ostensibly the same thing.
>>334774021
>>334774063
Why can't we just get the covenant from DaS1? It worked great there.
>>334774028
Just think of it this way, you might havee been the last time that faggot was able to disconnect before breaking the link between worlds and using the ONLY way of white circle they get per playthrough so the next time they do it its done baby no more co-op no more anything AND if the pussy was a bad player they essentially quit the game forever since they can't beat it and you essentially ruined Dark Souls for a casual
Just think of it that way anon
Say what you will about das2 but at least I can invade sinners.
>>334773617
If it does not work it means there's no use to it and there's limited options.
DaS2 does convenants betterif not for broken SM.
>>334773565
>Purple boner covenant for trolls who try to backstab you when you're fighting enemies, and will never ever get summoned after week 1
Shit I better get my fun in now before this covenant goes completely dead. I usually try to fuck over a phantom so ppl still summon us.
>>334774124
*Gravelords didn't work until NG+
*No one used Way of White and Princess Guard
*Daughters of Chaos had no real purpose, other than to give chaos pyromancies and a shortcut
*Sunbros are fine
*Dickwraits are fine
*Darkmoon never got to invade
DS1 didn't work all that great, unless you were a sunbro or a dickwraith
>>334774261
>if you ragequit too many times, you get bumped into a quarantine playerlist where you only get matched with other ragequitters
I love this
>>334774487
>Darkmoon never got to invade
Man, I came into DaS1 a couple years late and it was still somewhat active.
I got less activity doing it on DaS2.
>>334773565
All of those covenants sucked. I've never meet anyone who genuinely enjoyed being a Dragonfag.
God tier: mound builders
Good tier: Aldritch Faithful, Watchdogs of Farron, Blue Sentinels
Ok tier: Darkmoon, Warriors of Sunlight
Dickwraith Tier: Rosaria's Fingers
Useless tier: Way of Blue
>>334774607
That's because FROM made some really bad choices when it come to the sentinels and BoB. They should have had the option of unlimited invading, and the whole duel for invasion tokens was horse shit.
Tower and Rat covenants were fun as hell.
Honestly the covenant I miss the most is the gargoyles/Forest Protector covenants. I know wolfbros are a thing now but you will never gangbang the host in DS3 like you used to be able to.
>>334774726
>I've never meet anyone who genuinely enjoyed being a Dragonfag.
There's a pretty lively community of Fightclubbers and autistic Theorycrafters.
That's the one thing I disliked about dragon dueling in the past
>Get summoned to fight
>alright here we go!
>bow
>you have recieved a message
>"Hey can you hold still I want to test some shit"
>Invade world
>Host just backs away with his shield up, refusing to fight
>Waits for his blue
>Promptly kill blue
>Dude goes full Olympic triathlon trying to just run away.
>Just pop him with a fireball everytime he runs out of stamina
>He runs for the boss door, I guess preferring to die from the boss instead of an invader
>The entire level he just aggro'd kills him just as he makes it to the door
I dare so I think I popped his cherry
>>334774762
Honestly mounds would be a million times better if they were just invaders who were hostile to the enemies instead of summoned.
>>334774883
I had a 3v1 as the aldrich covenant. Poor host.
Belltower was the best "defend this area" covenant none of the other ones even compare.
What level should I be if I want to get summoned for blue sents and the watchdog covenant?
>>334775008
yeah, the summoning thing is kind of dumb, because you can be far ahead or far behind the host, but I've had some enjoyable instances with it.
>be summoned
>host is a total dick and trying to kill me
>never attack them
>attack enemies
>they still try to kill me but arent chasing after me, just swiping at me if I get withing range
>eventually get invaded by red phantom
>wave to phantom
>waves back
>target host and strafe around him
>phantom does the same
>wait till we align and backstab phantom
>host and I double team that red scum
>he then still tries to kill me as Im transported back to the safety of my world
lel
>>334775224
You won't be
There is a ten to one ratio of blue sentinels to blue pussies. Just play casually with the ring on and every fifteen minutes or so you'll get a summon
I'd suggest joining a real covenant
>>334775224
Found that sticking around the road of sacrifice and farron keep had the best summoning chances. Though, do be careful and don't level up too much, else you'll find invading in Farron keep limited. Stick to ~30ish
>>334774979
>Invade in the catacombs just at the fallen bridge
>kill his blue phantom and chase him all the way to the fog door
>the fog door doesn't trigger the boss fight immediately so he just hides like a pussy and summons 3 dudes before coming out to gangbang my ass
Seriously just make the boss fog kick the invader out this shit is so dumb
>>334775308
I still don't entirely understand Purple-dudes and their role.
Aren't they just Reds functionally?
>>334775554
they are reds that can do damage to enemies
>>334775554
No, they can kill phantoms instead of the host to achieve results. In one round it was me + red vs gold + host, red fought host and I killed gold, then while red was chasing host I backstabbed him and killed him. I was ported out and host was left all alone
>>334775554
They just need to kill a phantom to get out. White phantom, red phantom, world host. Doesn't matter who. Functionally, they are a wild card. You risk a higher skill phantom for the chance that he will fuck you over.
>>334775554
We're agents of chaos. Absolute madmen
>>334774487
>*Gravelords didn't work until NG+
Also you don't peer more than 12 guys at a time. The chance of them actually being in NG+ reduces the chances of Gravelord even working.
And the fact there is 9 covenants, but the game is not developed to the point where they all actually do decent stuff.
Dark Souls 2 has 8
Dark Souls 3 has 8. It could be reduced down to 4 or 5, or allow free invasions between unaligned covenents
>>334775554
Can purples invade? Or do they need to be summoned?
If purples could use the Red Eye Orb (or maybe just the cracked one) to invade you could get some really interesting interactions.
>>334775943
they can use the red eye orb. whether monsters are hostile depends on if you are summoned (hostile) or invade (non-hostile)
that said, if anyone summons a purple they're either retarded or don't know how it works
>find Watchdogs first time
>spend a good 2 hours invading
>fun as fuck
>continue on with the game
>create new character
>get to Watchdogs again
>zero invasions
Aaaand it's dead.
>>334773827
>join watchdogs
>get to a higher level than the people typically doing farron
>no more grass
gg from
>>334776112
No, the servers are just off.
>>334776112
Check your level, im getting constant invasions
>>334776049
That's silly. Purples should be able to invade but still get hurt by monsters. That way you could just scout out unfamiliar areas without risking your own souls, while potentially helping out the host as well.
There needs to be more incentives to not just immediately try to facefuck any purple you see. Perhaps letting them into the boss area and giving them a reward if they manage to kill the boss too? Idk.
>>334776338
I'm 32
I remember being 37 on my first character and invading fine
What would be the limit for that area?
>>334776338
What level are you?
>>334776251
>>334776338
>>334773827
Matchmaking in the game is now based upon both your level AND the highest weapon upgrade you have.
This was meant to combat twinking faggots
If you farmed and have a +9 weapon or something, you're only going to get matched with other people who have that
>>334776425
If monsters aren't hostile you can't damage them.
>>334776489
People keep bringing this up to dismiss claims that the watchdogs aren't working for a lot of people and it's getting annoying. I was level 25 and the highest weapon upgrade I had ever had at that point was +3. I waited for eight fucking hours with the covenant equipped and the icon flashing on the day after release. Not a single summon.
There. Is. A. Problem. With. The. Matchmaking. Servers.
>>334776531
Yes that was my point. If a purple invades they SHOULD be able to damage monsters and collect souls as a potential win-win for the purple and the host.
>>334776763
I think purple are good for what they are... if you want co-op there's already a thing for that.
Now, darkwraiths could be a thing, where literally everything is hostile and maybe you get more reward for the more stuff you kill, so you want to maximize your NPC kills before you murder the host
>>334773565
>gravelord covenant to curse other worlds
I forgot that even existed.
Besides one funny video on youtube about it I never seen anyone actually making use of that gimmick.
It never worked in my game either. If I remember right it only affect people on NG+ or something so what is the point.
I love the concept of the Mound-makers but it would've made it way better if you could help fight the boss too as a victory condition
It'd really add to the instability of the covenant because hypothetically you could turn on your ally mid boss fight or help beat it
It'd be fun as fuck.
>>334775361
>and every fifteen minutes or so you'll get a summon
What game are you playing? I've worn Blue Sentinel/Dorkmonn covenant the entire game (50 hours) and I got summoned once.
>>334777378
that would give them too large of an advantage
>>334773959
That's stupid. I want to fight an invader one on one once in a while.
>>334777489
But that'd be the risk you take by summoning a mad phantom
>>334777378
They should just be a neutral invader. Having to summon them is kinda dumb.
>>334777378
I think that the covenant should just give the purple guy a random objective to kill the host, or kill the world boss, and the host doesn't know which it is.
>>334777489
Purple would still have to dodge the boss as well as the host. Fair and balanced(tm).
Before anyone goes
>Hurr durr leddit
I don't give a shit. This should be read if you want an understanding of what is going on for a LOT of the playerbase.
>>334777572
Then nobody would ever summon one. Obviously you'd have to give the host an incentive to summon purples over whites and golds and not attack them at first sight. Something like an extra item or extra souls upon being helped by a purple when defeating bosses, or even being able to summon purples without being in ember form so that you won't get invaded, but you'll be forced to co-op with someone that could potentially backstab you at any given moment.
>>334777691
there's no reason not to just kill the purple guy instantly... if you want boss help, then you summon oranges
if you're invaded by purple and they get tasked with killing the boss that's even worse, because then you're involuntarily playing easy mode
>>334777572
Why, you'd have to be an absolute madman!
>>334777753
Being able to summon purples in non-ember form is genius why didn't they think of this
>Sentinels - Can defend Blades and other Sentinels in addition to Way of Blue from any invader
>Blades - Remove Aldritch Faithful rivalry, can invade sinners which can cause potential infighting between Blades and Way/Sentinels
>Mound - Every phantom vanquished nets a Vertebrae. Can help host kill boss for a reward and also kill the host at the end for double rewards.
>Adlritch - Like Rat Kings, pulls players into a covenant member's world. Covenant members can summon other Faithful.
Fixed your covenants Miyazaki
>>334777378
>>334777594
I think mound makers summon sign should just like a normal white one instead of a purple one. That way you add an element of Risk Vs. Reward every time you summon willy nilly.
>>334778056
yeah I agree
>>334778056
It should just work with the phantom ring
though that would be kind of dumb if reds could do it too
>latest calibrations fixed the infinite loading screen and infinite fogwalls bug
>by making the game crash instead
>>334777809
The downside to fighting the purple guy in that situation is if he has a co-op objective, then obviously you might die when fighting him and it doesn't benefit you in any way. Though obviously this risk is mitigated if you're already running around with 3 co-op white/gold phantoms.
I mean worst case scenario it works exactly the same as it does now, as the "kill x phantoms" objective is supposed to encourage helping the host, but the way invasions work means that the host A; never needs help, and B; has no reason not to kill you.
>>334776741
Got summoned once for watchdogs over the course of 8 hours early in the game even though I seemed to be in range. Just got to aldritch covenant tonight and invaded instantly for 2 hours straight. Somethings definitely fucked somewhere.
I've been just ignoring the covenants. The only one that seems to give out good rewards are sunbros but even then you need 30 faith and 20 medals. I don't know man i thought being a dickwraith in DS1 was fun as hell, is there anyway for infinite invasions or do i just have to farm cracked red eye orbs? I had more fun with the DS2 covenants because the tower guard with the midgets was fun. But i don't see the need for any of the covenants if none of them give out worthwhile rewards and summoning doesn't work most of the time. I don't even know if there is a dickwraith covenant in this game but i bet it's ass if it exists.
>>334773565
Darkmoon isn't only against Aldrich guys, I never joined the covenant and when I invade someone they get Darkmoon support
Watchdogs don't really seem to work as they should. I've run two characters to Farron Keep now, the second intentionally staying at 30 and at +2 weapon. I neither get invaded in the zone (except by normal red phantoms), nor do I get any summons of my own. What >>334777709
says kinda seems like it could be a thing. At least some part of matchmaking seems wonky.
>invade in the swampy part of profaned capital as an absolute madman
>host immediately summons a phantom
>I wait for them on top of that one roof
>host tries to summon another phantom but can't
>wait
>wait
>eventually give up and run to the bonfire room
>they're both on the high platform
>sunbro aims a bow at me but doesn't shoot
>he's had enough of the host's shit
>host eventually comes down
>kill her easily
>wave
Killing a pussy is much more fun than an honorable opponent.
>>334778425
You get a full red eye orb early in the game.
>>334778367
The amount of sliding phantoms with no animations has increased exponentially since the patch.
Mound Makers should've instead have worked like this: spawn in as some random red enemy on the map (like a lothric knight) instead of the player.
>>334775915
That is the worst alignment chart I've ever seen.
You can't just decide "9 factions, 9 alignments, they MUST fit" it doesn't work that way.
Just beat the game with my STR FTH build. STR is definitely good, the Large and Great clubs stunlock literally every enemy. The hyperarmor is great too and made most bosses a breeze. I managed to beat every boss without dying except for the Dragonslayer Armor, and that's because he was literally just a better version of me, plus he had those gay butterflies helping him. FTH seems to be mostly useless though, buffing my club with lightning weapon only added 50 or so damage with 35 FTH. Tears of Denial is great though and literally saved my ass countless times, both in pvp and pve. Spent around 20 hours doing pvp and I won 75% of my fights, and most of those were 3v1s. My conclusion is that STR = fun and viable and FTH = borderline useless. I'd love to hear other people's perspectives.
>>334777753
>>334777874
>summon purple without being embered
>kill them
>get embered for free
There are so many things they could have done with this game but didn't.
>>334778483
>tfw invading as a purplefag and separating the phantoms from the host, killing them and then leaving
>tfw showing up with the xanthous crown and the drang hammers and then purposely moving around like a spaz and spamming emotes for shits and giggles
>Finally get summoned to save a Way of Blue baby
>Immediately abandons me to a 2v1
Help me help you you faggot.
>>334777874
fuckin japs
>>334778660
honestly I always felt like this should have been the only invasion functionality... I'm really surprised they never brought back the old monk boss fight from demon's souls
that said, I have had fun with some of the other things they've tried
>>334776741
I can attest to this. I have still never been summoned as a Darkmoon, and by this point in the game, most people have a +10 weapon. I'm level 95
>>334778660
>Spawn in farron keep as one of the Grus
>Spawn in Road of sacrifices as one of those purple things
>Spawn in the cathedral as a Gremlin
>Show up in the catacombs as a skeleton
>>334778056
Then they'd only use sunbros which open up at the same exact time.
>>334773565
dragon is a pretty nice covenant, you get a useful item and a cool item
but luring people into your world is stupid you might as well just use a dried finger
>>334777930
>Can defend Blades and other Sentinels
The point of Blue Sentinels is that you're a manly man who helps the weak. A Sentinel shouldn't need summons to stop an invader.
>>334779007
Then that gives the sunbro the benefit as well, but if there aren't any sunbros around and you have no choice..
>no infiltrating stealth asshole covenant that invades and doesn't have a glow but can get damaged by every kind of phantom and automatically fulfills their task if they kill you
that would be cool as fuck, you could have reds and whites working together to search for the sneaky fucker.
I've never been ganked so many fucking times in a row trying to level in a covenant. I get a victory and what? Host sends shitmail telling me 'good estoc spam dude'.
Fuck you hosts with two phantoms. Fuck you people playing on baby mode.
>>334779136
If you wanna be a stealthy asshole just invade with that ring equipped that makes you look like a white phantom.
Bonus points if you get summoned and use the atonement miracle and watch as the host gets killed by a ton of enemies
>>334778509
Where is it? Is there a covenant for dickwraiths this time around? Do they give out decent rewards?
>>334779003
>wear untrue dark ring
>be indistinguishable from a normal enemy until you style all over the host
>>334778681
The main problem is that WoW, PG and WoS are basically the same covenant. Mechanically.
Dragon is literally True Neutral.
That leaves 3 empthy alignment.
>>334773565
>Been invading people since day one
>Completely maxed out with the rosy fingers
>Every time I invade now I get a dorkmoon
>EVERY SINGLE TIME
Someone pls help im tired of getting gangbanged by blue's and yellows every invasion now.
>>334777005
For something to do when you get to NG+.
Personally I've found it's a great way to just lure invaders to your world to duel. Gravelorded New LondoI DIDN'T KNOW IT'S NEVER EXACTLY HAPPENED I THOUGHT IT'D JUST BUFF DICKWRAITHSand got twenty duels in ten minutes.
At least six of which were the same guy the poor bastard.
>i'm embered up
>get invaded on Road of Sacrifice
>fighting a giant crab at the same time
>get back stabbed within 2 seconds of "You are being invaded"
>Krabby used Bubble! Deadfuck's speed fell...
>cant dodge the incoming Uchifagtana's attacks
>die
>NO LONGER EMBERED
>SAME PERSON INVADES WITHIN SECONDS OF ME SPAWNING
>CANT EMBER ANYMORE (DONT KNOW WHY)
>ragequit
>>334775915
>Gravelord
>Evil
>Dragon
>Evil
>Darkmoom
>Chaotic
What in the fuck? Way of white also doesn't fit lore wise there and pretty much only chaos, princess and dickwraiths re correct.
>>334779205
Nobody ever said you had to play fair.
>Not using the knockback from farron dart to knock people into monsters
>Not kicking people into the random fires that are all over Farron Keep
>Not getting summoned as a purplefag and getting those giant crabs to aggro on the host
>Not helping someone half way through an area, throwing undead hunter charms at them and then fucking them over
>Not making a path of stones throughout some area and then ambushing them if they split up
Being Mad Phantom in Undead Settlement is great
Literally every summon sign is mound maker
My favorite one is when the host summons two just watch them beat the shit out of each other
>>334779205
You have to play nasty now.
I feel like since the Darkmoon get summoned even without Aldrich invaders they should have something significant to make them separate from Sentinels.
Treat them like Red Phantoms to the world, they can't attack mobs or be hit by them, instead they hunt down Red Phantoms who hide in the enemies and bait the host.
>>334779289
There is a covenant, but you don't need to be in it to get the red eye orb.
You have to talk to a certain npc that gives you red eye orbs. You give him a pale tongue after invading someoneor finding one in cathedral of the deep near the second giantand he gives you a key to a room near the second bonfire in high wall of Lothric
They really missed the mark with Mound Makers, would be better if invaders could summon them as well because it plays up the whole wild card thing.
>>334779528
>Lead a host and his phantom into the big group of enemies with the fat guy
>Aggro all of them
>Turn on host
>The chaos ensues
>>334775915
>chaos servant chaotic
>forest hunter neutral
>sunlight neutral
>way of white lawful
Post builds. I need a build idea for a DEX Fag and a pyro guy
>>334779289
Talk to the guy leaning against Lothrics throne, he'll give you cracked orbs. Invade someone, get a pale tongue and then talk to him again for the normal orb.
The covenant itself is hidden in the chapel
>>334779428
>NO LONGER EMBERED
>SAME PERSON INVADES WITHIN SECONDS OF ME SPAWNING
Is this on PC? Maybe some hacker took a liking to you.
>>334773565
>>no gravelord covenant to curse other worlds
>>no rat covenant to lure people into your world
>>no honorable duel dragon covenant
>>no justice covenant to invade faggots who dickwraith and sin.
This is all kinds of lame thank god they got rid of em
>>334779528
>>334779753
Seriously based. I love the purple duels that hosts set up. I love it even more when we Grapes fight but then turn on the host and gangbang him
>>334779653
They would make being a red even less fun to play then it already is.
>>334779065
The problem with the "weak" is that nobody remains Way of Blue past the High Wall so Sentinels end up defending no one.
I've been playing as blue sentinel since I got it, but never been summoned so far after 20 hr of play or so.
The icon is blinking so I assume it's working.
What the fuck is going on.
>>334779684
>Indicted
holy shit I forgot that even exist.
>>334779724
I just googled this shit and i was right. A useless ring and a staff nobody will ever use as a reward (lol sorcery in DS3) what the fuck is this shit. There's no incentive to join unless you really just like invading people which will always end up as at least a 2v1. Fuck that covenants really are useless in this game.
Gravelord Covenant was like the one interesting covenant they did.
Even Rat Covenant was just a free kill. Gravelord was excellent.
>>334780028
The ring is really good fuck off
>>334779741
That's why I just invade as a purplefriend and help normal invaders kill the host.
Half the time they turn on me even if I'm clearly going for the host, but it's pretty damn funny when it works out.
>>334780028
>A useless ring
That ring is baller as fuck
>>334779946
Maybe have it function on a timer, the longer the Red is there doing jack all the more likely Darkmoon comes. Reds who just hide among enemies and bait are shitters anyway
>>334778457
What is the average level for Farron? I just ground out thirty swordgrass today with frequent invasions at level 9.
What's up with Reds being able to kill each other, is there any reason for it?
Also I learned something neat last night, black Knights will attack anything in the world, including red phantoms
>>334778890
>way of blue baby
Fuck you bro I wear it so people can earn their covenant items. This system is slow as hell.
>>334773617
The concept of being pulled into another world to save someone REQUIRING the person needing saving be in a covenant is absolute bullshit.
The guilt system needed to make a return to make Darkmoon invasions worth it. It didn't come back and now Darkmoon invasions are extremely rare and if the Darkwraith wants to fuck with you? He can just leave the world and the Darkmoon will get NOTHING.
>>334780028
Magic is still good, but you have to go balls deep investing into it, or you don't get any returns.
Crystal Soul Spear can still instagib people, Homing Crystal Soul Mass is way faster and will eviscerate peoples health bar if not kill them immediately. Souls Stream is ridiculous and you can snipe people with it.
I don't get why anyone would ever summon a purple without the intent of just fighting him
>You could summon a phantom or sunbro who has no option but to help you
or
>you can summon a mad phantom who can help you but really only gets rewards if he kills you/the people helping you.
>>334779821
PS4, I guess slow weapons will have to wait.
>>334780086
it doesn't seem like fun compared to just invading a dick and his sunbro anytime you want
>>334774979
>invade in catacombs
>wear obscuring ring
>stand on bridge and wait for host and summons
>cut it down as they cross
Most fun invasion I've had yet.
>>334780453
To be fair, no other covenant is worth equipping while solo. I wish people would wear the damn things more often unless they like being solo invaded (that's fine too).
>>334780519
Make them come to you.
>>334780374
If you kill your fellow red you get another sippy I guess. Not really worth it but if your gonna be a dick might as well go all the way.
>>334780374
host probably just used a seed.
I doubt they'd make a single enemy react to invaders.
Thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2vCDbfiAGo&feature=youtu.be
>>334780453
The guilt system is back darkmoons get priority for high sin invaders.
>>334780697
Nah, nothing else attacked me, just the two black knights in Smouldering Lake. I haven't tested it in other areas though
>>334780627
or just leave a red soap sign or dragon sign if you wanna fight, it just seems like a lot of effort to force a bunch of people to fight you compared to just going to them
>>334780486
I usually put down my sign as a mad phantom and help people through farron keep.After I help them find one of the candles I throw undead hunter charms at them and get nearby enemies to attack both of us
>>334776741
I was getting summoned endlessly back to back by watchdogs yesterday for a good hour before I finally removed my emblem so I could clear the Keep in peace.
Was in my 40s with a +4 longsword.
>>334780697
dark wraiths and black knights attack other enemies
>>334779501
>>334779571
I understand, but the one time I tried to use the level or mobs, taking my time, the host fucking bailed.
This is frustrating as shit. I even had blue sentinels hop in a lot. There just doesn't feel like there's a lot I can do when I'm being fucking bumrushed by three guys.
>>334780771
It's literally no effort, just drop the sign whereever you want and watch them come to you.
Twenty minutes, 10 counter-invaders.
>>334779003
>show up as theskeleball
>>334779205
>ftw no hatemail and I've mimed on my fair share of hosts
Why don't they despise me?
>>334780838
What are you playing on?
I get a lot of disconnects on xbone for some reason.
>>334776489
Does it only count weapons you have on you? Can I put my beefy weapons away in storage if I want to use another one that isn't as upgraded without getting matched against people with weapons that are a lot stronger?
>>334780838
Yeah, winning a 1v3 is rough even with the world helping you.
Gotta get creative with how to shit on losers. Use OP weps, chug sippies, block their estus, cut the fucking bridge, aggro Pontiff Knights that rape shitters.
I lose a good portion of my invasions, but you are king of the world when you win a 1v3.
And you're the bad guy, everyone says going into 1v3s is what you deserve, even though most of the covenants need you to invade.
>>334778636
I had this happen earlier today. Summoned 2 phantoms to help me blast Irithyll before I had to leave for work, was fun watching 2 people glide around like chess peices using psychic attacks on everything.
Was also probably why Pontiff Sullyvahn went down so easily too. Boss was probably bugged on their end and had no animations, so they never got hit, which was what happened - none of us fucking got hit because the boss just glided around.
3rd playthrough, and that was the oddest shit I've experienced. Restarting the game seems to fix it though.
>>334780949
Try getting summoned as a grapist, getting someone through a good portion of cathedral of the deep, and then kicking them off the roof near the archers.
Alternatively leading them towards a mimic and watching as they die is always good too.
>>334780028
Both the ring and the staff are actually incredibly good, though.
I've noticed that the Match making seems to be broken for me as well.
I was trying level aldritch and I sat in irithyll for like three hours with no summons.
I ended up farming the deacons right after sulyvhan and getting rank 1 that way. Fucking nice.
>>334779741
Yeah making you act as a normal red phantom sucks, because after a month or so no one's gonna take the chance to summon a Mound Maker so invading is gonna be the only action you get.
>>334773565
Tell me about it
After I suggested combining the first two on your list to make a "Grave Rats" covenant.
>Pull victims into a set area like DES
>Set area is sens fortress style American gladiators arena
>Kill me, or push through the obstacles and touch my sign
Gee whizz something way funner than any of the shit they brought to the table (grape bros are you fucking kidding me?) and it took me maybe 5 minutes of thought to develop.
Somebody teach me programming so I can fix the gaming Industry.
>>334780949
>tfw both the host and his butt buddy phantom pal add you on steam just so they can shit talk you at the same time after you stomped them both.
No other game lets me experience this feeling of bliss.
>>334773565
gravelord covenant never worked anyways lol
>invade for a bit
>keep getting into hosts with 2 phantoms
>get utterly wrekt
>occasionally blitz the host and win, but also die upon victory prompt
>decide it's not fun and stop
Watch Dogs was more fun. Invasions never ended. I'd come back from an invasion and get snagged to do another minutes later.
>>334781186
It's rosarial alone for me this playthrough, I killed curse tree before finding the covenant and I killed Sirris after joining the fingers for the ring. I regret nothing. What am gonna do with all those tongues otherwise?
>>334775554
Is the "I here to fuck shit up" covenant. They can attack anybody. Is mostly a high risk high reward phantom who could cut your head or stomp flat the invader.
>>334781425
>ftw you win a 41
Your bloodlust is low.
>>334774787
Really, it would have been so incredibly easy to fix. All they had to do was make members of the Way of Blue impossible to invade unless they either already have phantoms, or a BlueBro is available to be summoned. Either make the blue/red arrival simultaneous, or don't even bother.
It would:
a) cut back greatly on the number of invasions the WoBs get
b) ensure that, when they do get invaded, there is always a BlueBro there in time to actually save them and get their concord.
Both WoB and BlueBros would be a lot more popular with that one simple change.
>>334781115
The problem isn't gank squads, it's that game mechanics HEAVILY favour them when you invade.
Certain types of weapons are practically unusable, having all this stamina is a bad thing because now phantoms can stay in your face forever, world enemies don't help most of the time and there's not enough environmental dangers to exploit, forced stunlock break after two hits means you can't burst somebody down if they create an opening, etc etc etc.
You could fight gank squads and win in earlier games if you were gud enough, but this time around even the game itself is giving you the middle finger.
>>334773565
>no honorable duel dragon covenant
Dragons were the biggest estus chugging shitters in DaS2
>>334781271
It's because Miyazaki is a fucking shit lord and hates his own PvP
>Darkmoon still sucks
I've been sitting here waiting to help someone for almost an hour. The second I go Darkwraith and invade someone though? A blue is summoned.
BRAVO FROM
>>334781028
>Does it only count weapons you have on you?
no
from what I understand it is like a permanent mark on your character
I just wanted Gravelords back
What is this chest piece?
Sage Hat
Havel Gauntlets
???
???
Is there any cool armor I can get early on? Everything I picked up so far looks like shit.
I don't mind a grindfest, I just want some badass shit like the red eyed knight near the church before Vordt (which I think can't be dropped).
>>334781646
Too many people wanting to level dorkmoon and not enough people dickwraithing because whenever they invade two dorkmoons are immediately summoned.
>>334782136
Lothric Knights can drop their gear.
>>334782097
Nameless kings?
>>334782210
What about the blue armor from the red eye knight? The one in the corner that applies magic to his blade?
>Want covenant items, need 30 of every single different one to get all covenant items.
>Need to farm them off regular enemies because I hate PVP and am bad at it.
Fuck you, FROM.
Guys
What if
Guys
What if sunbros could just leave their covenant turned on like the dorkmoons or furfags and automatically be summoned to assist bosses in their level range?
Would be so much better than dropping a sign and sitting around.
>>334781186
>2016 Anno Domini
>Still not being able to distinguish a mimic from a chest by merely looking at it for a second
Senpai...
>>334781638
They have a history of bending a knee to weak willed faggots if they complain enough. It wasnt as noticeable in DS1 because the PVP was so broken, everyone thought it needed fixing.
Look at DaS 2: No red eye orb. And even in PVE, they bitched to the point that small soap stones grant a full fucking revive, and completely shit on their own dwindling health bar.
>"THIS IS GOING TO BE SO FUCKING HARD PREPARE YOUR ANUS"
>"Waaaah FROM it's too hard"
>*Patches at the behest of casuals*
>>334782392
>Need to farm them off regular enemies because I never get summoned
Why must this happen
>>334781024
PS4. I've had other people d/c before when I was moving in for the kill. It's shitty.
>>334781115
>>334781579
It does feel unfair and frustrating, but pulling out wins in 2v1 or 3v1 does feel fantastic. Had a red phantom pyro literally swoop in and save the day. I'm in the mound maker cov.
>at chapel area
>3v1
>take down one phantom but it isn't looking good
>host is full HP and other phantom is low
>suddenly fireballs rain down on the host and remaining phantom as they chase me
>phantom killed
>out jumps red phantom pyro from above (where the exploding guys pray outside of the chapel)
>we both chase down the host
>red pyro bro's fireball hits at the same moment as my estoc
>turn to him and he's clapping
Whoever you were, pyro bro, you're the fucking man.
Fuck these things man. What're they doing that's causing my health bar to drain anyway?
>>334782136
Mirrah set
>>334773565
If I respec, do I have to use all the points I've accumulated? Say I overleveled and want to scale down for better summoning/invasion range, can I leave points unused?
Does blue sentinels even work? Had it on all game and never been summoned.
>>334782564
just spam hit them
they go down pretty fast
>>334782509
>Summon someone and they refuse to help me
I don't understand this, I know I have a shit internet connection but so what?
They only lose about 3 minutes just getting to the boss.
Has anyone used the soldering iron in PvP?
>>334782564
When their eyes go red they drain max hp while looking at you
the range is almost the size of your mum
You DID manage to get all the wold covenant items before out leveling the zone, RIGHT?
>>334782564
Looking at you.
>tfw invading in the Dungeon all dressed up as a Jailer and brandishing a fully upgraded poker
>>334782886
I tried doing that but people could still estus through my brand so I got butthurt and stopped. Also the gank squads made it unfun.
>>334779405
>For something to do when you get to NG+.
Dark Souls 2 auto gravelorded NG+ with Black Phantom enemies, which is better anyway
>>334782869
do the covenants even have any good rewards?
I'll probably do the sunbros again just for the shitty lightning.
>>334783027
Yeah, poker is shit.
But that's why you only pretend to use it. Swing it at them a few times, and when they drop their guard, branding that lighting zwei/dark sword and fucking murder them.
Summons are ok in that level because it's narrow and the enemies are annoying.
>>334782802
>>334782853
>>334782886
I see, one last question. Anything besides the coal in this area worth getting? Just got my shit slapped trying to enter Profane Capital and was wondering if it's worth it to return.
>>334782814
There's a widespread bug right now where phantoms can't enter boss doors.
It exists because, From being a Japanese company, they test their netcode in a nearly lag-free environment.
>mfw stuck on two princes fight for the past 2 days
Christ. I know no one else really has a problem with this but I just can't fucking beat this fight. I thought pontif was easy as shit which I hear is one of the harder ones, but this is just fucked.
I hate to ruin my entire solo run and summon for this, but hope is dwindling
>>334783237
I've noticed it happens most for Dancer and Pontiff
>Try to sunbro for any other boss
>Everything is fine
>Try to sunbro for Dancer or Pontiff
>Stuck outside the fog door 24/7
How to fix pvp:
>Pyromancy spell with no stat req that creates an aura around the caster. Anyone- player included, who takes a drink of their estus while effected by the aura will have the estus sip taken as damage.
>Once afflicted by the aura it will last sixty seconds
>Aura itself will say up for a full sixty seconds
>Maybe 1 fp cost.
>>334783223
There's a vendor NPC in the area you've screenshot. You need a key from the profaned capital.
A few crystal lizards.
That's really about it.
DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY SON EVER AGAIN
>>334783223
an NPC
>>334783223
There is an NPC to rescue.
>>334783410
>>334783431
wait where i did that area and totaly missed that
>>334783271
>mfw round 2 for the first time
>>334775943
>not exclusively summoning purples
it's fun m8. don't you like fun?
>>334783403
not bad
>>334783403
Quality meme man
>>334783451
One of the cells has a witch in it
Red invaders are pretty much scum.
I just hide as an object.
Hilarious since they're so shit they can't figure out which one is me, they just run around wasting time.
Is it me or are NPCs in this game kinda shit? They're not as bad as DaS2 NPCs, but still.
>70% of all NPCs repeat one line
>Retarded quests whereas an NPC can die without notice and just stop a huge chunk of lore and quests from being available
Not even mad, I got that one properly; but I know some people didn't.
>>334783223
Gotta go to profane capital at some point, otherwise two NPCs are found either there or past there
>>334773565
>no justice covenant to invade faggots who dickwraith and sin.
Blues and darkmoons should have been able to do this
>>334776049
>Be purple
>Help host
>Eventually the stage kills him.
To be honest, I get instant summons as a purple even all the way at Lothric castle. all the LEL I BETRAYED YOU kids moved on to the red covenant after Undead Village
>>334773565
Wrong, Darkmoon are literally the same as blue sentinels with the added feature of getting more rewards by killing aldrich faithful
>>334783610
Oh yeah, there's also the onion knight - if you manged to get him this far, he's available for rescuing from the profane capital.
>>334783403
if new players needed help, why wouldn't they just summon a sunbro
if blue sentinels wanted to fight some one why don't they just invade or get invaded
>See Anri in the catacombs
>K whatever
>Beat Volnir and leave
>Apparently I'm supposed to do something with her in there
Ok, time to head back eventually
So, blue sentinels or darkmoon? I've got summoned more as a sentinel than a darkmoon, but I don't really know the difference between the 2.
>>334783743
>Ok, time to head back eventually
Too late, she's gone.
>>334783723
oops didn't mean to reply
>>334783723
Cos I want to rape scumbags who just get kicks from just murdering pve-babbies.
>>334783580
Is pilgrim guy supposed to die randomly or did I fuck something up?
I got one of those free-levels and when I came back a while later he was fucking dead.
>>334783791
What the fuck, where will she be next then?
>>334783743
if youre going for the bride ending, just say high to here in the next are, then talk to hollow bitch. She will be waiting for you in the old darkmoon spot.
>>334773565
>gravelord cov
Worked as intended .00001% of the time. Essentially a worthless covenant
>stonedraggy fanclub
Literally a recolored red soapstone duel system with specific, limited rewards. You either did it until you ran out of rewards/people stop showing up, or you ignored it completely
>darkmoons
Legit complaint, replaced with other hunt/assist covenants. Also, rarely worked as intended anyway, as dickwraiths can completely avoid you by hollowing and popping humanity the moment they want to invade
You're complaints are mostly about covenants with great ideas on paper that didn't actually amount to shit in-game for whatever reason. I have no pity for anything lost.
I love sunbros, they usually know what they're doing and will help you through an area. Personally i don't see the need to join any covenant because they're no good rewards for a str build but i'm glad they're in the game. I abuse the shit out of summoning too, i don't think i beat any boss outside the tutorial boss without at least 2 sunbros. I feel no shame, it's a mechanic in the game meant to be used and coop is fun. I only hate dicks that just rush through areas to get to the boss when i just want to explore and kill shit with a bro.
>>334783865
Nowhere, she's dead. The other dude goes hollow and she goes looking for him, if you don't hep her she dies,
>>334783835
He dies after 5 of those
>>334782576
>can I leave points unused
Nope.
>>334783835
You fucked up.Or rather, you didn't fuck up enought
You can level up five times with him by raising your hollowing up. Once you do that, he dies but gets replaced by an edgy waifu.
But if you just soldier on and defeat N bosses without taking advantage of him, he just dies.
>>334783743
>do first parts of Siegward and Anri quests
>never see them again
I must have some severe tunnel vision or I missed something really obvious.
>>334783770
They're the same shit. Except that darkmoon is an annoyance to find because you have to get a gesture from Sirris and then actually find Yohrksa.
But it pays off because darkmoons get an extra token when they kill aldritch faithful invaders assuming you get summoned to kill one.
>>334783996
>Don't use the full strenth thing cause don't trust it
>Will never see waifu
>>334784010
SAME Fuck man, People are saying onionbro is stuck in a well. WHAT WELL?
>>334783992
>>334783996
Well shit, I guess I lost 4 free levels.
Thanks
>>334784010
Squirdward shows up in a well by the Cathedral of the Deep. it's easy to miss
I skipped a lot of quest shit and still managed to complete all of them somehow. I think certain stages auto-complete if you skip them
>>334784135
>WHAT WELL?
The one right outside the Cleansing Chapel bonfire.
>>334784010
Siegward's is dumb as shit, because it depends on you finding patches to know where he is; the latter of which I've never actually seen besides firelink.
Protip: Check the well on the right outside the chapel threshold bonfire.
>>334784010
>completely loose siegward
>see onion armor in patches inventory
s-sorry.
anri is easy if youre going for that ending. half of it is ignoring here and letting her die.
>>334784274
>>see onion armor in patches inventory
Sieg is still alive. Patches stole his armour so Siegward hides in a well so he's not running around naked.
>>334784135
She proclaims you ruler of Londor, and that all within the kingdom belong to you, herself included. The catch is that there are a few challenges to your rule that have to be cut down in the form of NPCs from Firelink
>>334773565
>>Purple boner covenant for trolls who try to backstab you when you're fighting enemies, and will never ever get summoned after week 1
seriously though, does anybody summon these guys after you know what the purple color means? what the fuck was from thinking, its basically an invader that aggros mobs
>>334784320
oh shit really? is he still there? i already bonked yorm and im going to aldritch. Do i have to buy his shit back for him?
>>334784338
It can be entertaining sometimes. I summon them occasionally.
>>334784261
>>334784320
I've never even seen Patches either, what the fuck is wrong with me?
>>334784338
Its a risk. A higher skilled phantom at the cost of them possibly turning on you. Few purples I've summoned actually tried to kill me.
>>334784390
>Do i have to buy his shit back for him?
Yeah, you drop it down the well to him.
>>334784332
So She's Yurt 2.0
I'll pass then, wanna see what she looks like at least.
>>334784426
I didnt see him, he just showed up at firelink begging for forgiveness from me. did he fuck me over without me noticing?
They could've made the life of Darkmoons/Blue Sentinels a million times easier if:
>They added a Blue Eye Orb
Which means you can invade Dickwraiths and Hosts of Embers that rack up sin by killing other players or
>Red Eye Orb will yield Proof of a Concord kept when invading other players when Blue Sentinels/Darkmoon is equipped
Because Sunbros get Sun Medals when they invade.
>>334773565
Just let Darkmoon invade Aldrich fags, and misc reds. Problem solved. Indictments worked fine
>>334784426
Patches doesn't show up at all if you don't enter the Cathedral in one pre-determined order. It's retarded. He'll still show up at Firelink anyway though.
>>334784472
if youre going for pure dex, stength, or faith. the npcs you gotta kill are worthless to you anyway.
>>334784536
>Patches doesn't show up at all if you don't enter the Cathedral in one pre-determined order
Yes he does. Buy the key for 20k souls from the merchan hag and get the Firekeeper soul and he'll lock you in.
>>334784443
>higher skilled
Which stat do I level up for pyromancy?
>>334784586
Or just, don't kill any npcs because you don't have to.
/dsg/ is ignoring my posts
Anyone consider a ranged build using the obscuring ring?
anyone considering a 48 int glass cannon mage using crystal soul spear/soul stream at level 38 with obscuring ring?
>>334784586
I feel bad about killing NPC's either way it's too late apparently.
>>334784472
She only asks you to kill the sorcerer dude, and it's only if you want the Morion Blade.
I'm doubly mad, because I wanted the Morion Blade for my build and had to waste 2 pale tongues on respecing myself 10 intelligence so the fucker would even talk to me. And he killed my ass like half a dozen times before I killed him because Soul Greatsword is stupidly powerful.
>>334784610
Only if you killed some X number of bosses.
>>334784610
I mean at the Cathedral. There's an event where he pretends to be Squidward. You can miss it completely if you go in the back way.
>>334784671
but the ending you get from that is better then the other 2. I guess if you want to, but the hollow questline is actually pretty cool
>>334784586
Half of what she says is obviously bullshit anyways. Which is funny because it's obvious Kaathe is feeding her bullshit in the first place.
>>334783770
darkmoons only help vs a certain type of invasion, blue sentinel does all
Sunbros invading was a terrible idea.
Praise the nothing.
>>334784496
What they should have done was combine all three effects into a single covenant.
>While you have your blue covenant on, you are constantly searching for blues to help out
>While you have your blue covenant on, you will get help once invaded
>While you have your blue covenant on, using the red orb will let you invade as a spirit of justice
But nah, they decided to do things the retarded way
>>334784718
its only too late if you saved anri from the assassin i think. otherwise hollow bitch is cool with it.
>>334773676
hilarious reading all the defensive replies to this shit
neogaf is real
>>334783723
I like Blue Sentinels/Darkmoon because I can essentially keep playing through my game while still getting summoned to pvp on occasion.
Plus it feels good to help out someone who got invaded.
>>334784651
Yeah, any covenant that sees pvp frequently is going to be higher skilled than your run of the mill care bear white phantom
>>334784862
I mean it's too late for her to even show up. Turtle died without me taking levels.
>>334784778
I wouldn't say it's a better ending, since it's basically a Darklord ending anyways.
>>334775143
Rats funhouse covenant called, it would appear you engage in sexual intercourse with men.
>>334784932
ah i see, well just do it on a second go around. You can get a fuck ton of levels of turtle before he dies. It makes the early game quick. though i did have a lot of fun doing the quests for them.
>>334784991
>Get pulled into rat.
>Run past him and touch the fog gate
>Hate mail sent my way calling me a huge pussy for not engaging in his 1 v 20
>Almost every time I play with rats this happens.
Rats, not even once.
>>334775143
>No Bellfags in DaS3
I'm kinda mad because Aldritch Faithful isn't nearly as fun.
>>334784809
It makes total sense
They serve the fucking god of war. Just because solaire was a jolly panda doesn't mean all of them are and if you don't want to invade you don't have to
You are actually disliking people having more options available to them and more ways to play what the fuck would you just prefer they take it out of the game????
>>334783560
>tfw they disconnect after running past several times
Anyone know if you can still farm the Symbol of Avarice using Undead Hunter talismans?
>>334785105
If you're going to be a red, be a red. Sun bros were the designated co op covenant.
Why did from have to completely fuck up Darkmoon? What's the purpose of having two covenants with the exact same function? God damn, Darkmoon was best faction in Das1, now its just shit.
>>334785161
Protip anon; they're still co-oping.
> want to be the wolf
> can't be the wolf
> game doesn't want me to wolf
> no brotherhood fighting back the abyss and fucking people up in the forest
> decide to be the moon
> can't be guiding moonlight
> game doesn't want me to moon
> no ally of justice fighting back the invaders and purging the heretics
Guess I'm a sunbro for life.
>>334784842
This, you want help you have to give help.
>>334785161
>things cant change
anon, your acting like there arent a million yellow soap stones everywhere for boss help. you silly goose.
>>334785161
They are co oping. Just with another red.
Pic semi related
>>334785194
>Reds can invade anyone above their level
>Dorks can invade anyone below their level
It was perfect, only problem was all the pussy ass reds killing the world master so they couldn't be invaded.
So apparently, my giant bro throwing spears wasn't there anymore. I was too lazy to go check his tower out.
What happened?
>>334785216
Feels kinda hollow if you ask me.
It'd be like if blues could be summoned to kill reds, then invade hosts in their downtime.
>>334785161
Warriors of Sunlight is literally the one covenant that's actually improved and you're bitching because they can have fun in more ways
Warriors of Sunlight have never been the only option, people just forget that Way of White and Princess Guard were dogshit
>>334785343
He left you something.
>>334785357
you could always abandon covenants in the old games. i used to do it a lot. granted it wasnt as easy.
>>334785398
>Turned it into an invasion covenant
>"Improved"
Sure, may as well let blues attack world masters while we're at it.
>>334785482
Just because sunset is an option doesn't mean noon never happens.
>>334785459
>granted it wasnt as easy.
Yep.
And like I said, I feel it goes against the feel/lore of the convenant.
>>334785482
They didn't turn it into an invasion covenant you fucking turboautist
Red Eye Orb is no longer specific to one covenant so of course they can use it, giving servants of the God of War rewards for killing people is hardly fucking groundbreaking
They can do everything they could in the past, it's just now they can red eye orb along with everyone else
Pro tip: you could do exactly the same fucking thing in dark souls 1 with a stack of cracked red eye orbs as a sunbro, it's purely a quality of life improvement that they get medals, don't run out and need to buy more, and look badass golden red
I think it sucks that there isn't an invader covenant as cool as Darkwraiths anymore but if it means EVERYONE can pvp it's worth
>>334785482
Don't be a fucking retard.
>>334785670
That must have sounded so much cooler in your head.
>>334773565
Covenants are definitely the weakest part of the game on multiple levels. From lack of creativity to them not working properly, it's really disappointing. Shouldn't be surprised since BB basically didn't even have them, it seems like something they want to move away from despite how much fans love them.
>play grape soda covenant
>get summoned by newbie
>he's cautious around me but not immediately killing me
>help him through the level
>help him banish invaders who think they can gank him with me
>get him to the next bonfire
>wave goodbye and kill myself
Why is there no arena? Why is From going backwards in pvp since Ds2?
>>334785720
Good on from for letting everyone PVP early. Bad on from for making 70% of the covenants not fucking work.
>>334785875
Oh also not to mention how freely you can join/leave them on the fly, makes them feel that much more hollow
>>334785926
Because competitive pvp fags have and always will be cancer.
>One covenant for way of the blue, protected and protectors. You get points by protecting others and assisting other blue members with bosses, and you expend them by being invaded and having blue phantoms defend you. Blue phantoms don't take up a phantom slot like white and golds do.
>Sunlight warriors stays the same
>One environmental covenant, gives you a ring that grants bonus effects while in unkindled form but you're summoned against other players by the world in all general PVP areas. Some shit like "Seneschals of Gaia" or whatever. Just one covenant, doesn't need 3 different fucking things.
>Darkwraith covenant for invading, certain equipment or items allows Darkwraiths to attract other darkwraiths to the same world, but isn't a default setting.
>Covenant that pollutes worlds similar to Gravelord, but places the polluted world on a time limit, like some sort of gauntlet.
>Solo covenant that accrues points for each area cleared without summoning assistance. Points are used to purchase hard-to-find items such as upgrade materials and embers, but enemies are powered up based on how many points you have at that moment.
>Duelist's covenant similar to the one from DS2, except it doesn't fucking suck this time around. Focuses exclusively on summoned PvP
>Purifier's covenant centered around people who are 'marked for death.' Successfully polluting a world, killing a host as an invader, or doing some other degree of dickery marks you for death. Same shit as Darkmoon, but not so overly specific.
That's all you need. That's all the bases covered.
One covenant for camaraderie, one covenant specifically for aiding with bosses or clearing areas, one covenant for environment pvp, one covenant for general pvp, one covenant that challenges invaders and acts as the risk system, and three 'niche' covenants for solo players, honorfags, etc. Take the best elements from each game and stop reusing the absolutely stupid and non-functional shit like Way of the White and so on.
>>334773565
>Dark Souls 3 Covenants are absolute garbage.
I agree.
I mean just compare them to this:
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/online-matchmaking
>>334785975
Leonhard fucked off in my game.
Can I still get the red eye orb?
>>334779808
12 STR
30 DEX
30 END
25 VIT
Meme katana (if no washing pole is available)
Fallen knight armor
Milk ring (blood ring if ur good) red tear ring w/e
Grass crest shield
Dark magic optional for max edge lord/anime MC
>>334785926
Probably because all idiots did was use the arena and ignore the rest of the world.
>>334786173
Did you get the lift key from him?
Why is no-one talking about this Untrue ring? Best laffs.
>originally got it just to restore my fleshiness
>have Blue Sentinel thingo on
>head back out, get summoned almost immediately
>I'm still all fleshy in the host's world
>oh fuck yeah
>red phantom comes rushing at me thinking I'm the host
>just egg him on, damaging him heavily as he overextends and tries to just kill me
>white phantom comes along and we doubleteam his sorry ass
>host was never in any trouble
The potential for jokery is amazing.
>>334786098
How about some covenant rewards for people that aren't magic whores?
>>334786353
No, because he fucked off somewhere.
Say what you will about modern game design, giving the player no notice of imminently failing a quest is bullshit.
>>334785067
You play with shitty rats then. All you need it's a couple stones and a bonfire ascetic and it's become a rape dungeon.
>>334784656
Attunement mostly I think. From had to be mad gay and make each pyromancy have faith and int requirements though which blows
I think I'm gonna mainly level attunement and dex on my build and keep fth/int high enough for pyromancy requirements
Is there no hope for a hidden covenant anymore?
>>334786549
You have to be smart enough to know fire hands are dumb but have enough faith to believe this dumb shit will work.
>>334786804
> he doesn't know about the shadow covenant in NG+
>>334785883
>Not backstabbing the host at the end
Surprising.
>>334786764
When I first realised Anor Londo was in the game I was kinda hoping the painted world would make a return, with a Priscilla Guard covenant.
Alas, no.
>>334786764
Darkmoon is the hidden covenant.
>>334786549
Is it even worth it to level up faith and int for pyromancies? The scaling seems dogshit and Attunement isn't even that great since you don't need all those extra spell slots anymore.
>>334787112
Do we even know how pyromancies scale
>>334786327
Stay mad.
DaS II PvP and covenants are perfect.
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/company-of-champions
>tfw i just learned about what else this covenant has
Fucking hell...CoC covenant+soul sucking ring=infinite farming without your soul memory moving.
>>334773565
The covenants in Dark Souls 3 has too big of a focus on large scale PvP, its that simple. Everyone can invade each other with a red eye orb that doesn't even require covenant allegiance to get and pretty much everyone gets a reward for invading, even traditionally co-op covenants.
Its disappointing that in DkS 3 they added 2 solely PvE covenants yet reverted back to none. Why even have 2 covenants which mechanically are identical (Sentinels & Darkmoon) when you could just have another Way of White which reduced invasion chance anyway.
>>334787275
We can't even calculate spell damage
>>334783271
>yay I finally killed him
>lol no you didn't
second phase is bullshit
>>334784680
>glass cannon mage using crystal soul spear
I did this in dark souls 1
Can confirm it's a fun PVP and PVE build if you have enough attunement
>at pontiff
>literally die in 2 hits, if i get hit i have to dodge 10 times to estus, hitting him does tiny damage
>ditto for the old demon in the lake
what fucking do? am i missing something? is it just a matter of gitting gud?
I did it bros.
>>334775554
I think purple dudes are supposed to be the dueling covenant. Otherwise why would you summon them?
>>334787624
Are you using a slashing weapon? I've heard it does shit damage to him.
>>334784680
I'm working on it, but I'll be level 54 or something since I'm getting 24 attunement
>>334787549
>Finally killed him
>lol no you didn't
Are you fucking kidding me?
They pull this shit AGAIN after abyss watchers?
Welp, time to say fuck it to my low level run.
Here I come, greatsword
>>334787625
>BKGA
no you didnt
>>334787842
Fuck you BKGA is great.
>>334787838
>greatsword
Good luck
>>334787362
>perfect
>soul memory
>tfw can't remember what I used my stray demon soul on
>tfw no havels ring
rrreee.....
>>334774346
you can always invade
Getting the red eye orb is easy as fuck.
>>334787624
old demon king should be e z
if you're really in trouble you can use the piles of demons to make space
>Join darkroom blades hoping I can get summoned enough for the ring at least
>Make it all the way from Amor Londo to Kiln with all the optional areas in between like garden and archdragon peak
>Not summoned a single time
Am I doing something wrong?
>>334787018
>animeposter having such wrong opinions
What's new?
>>334785224
>blue sent from the moment I found them
>dorkmoon as soon as I found them
64 hours and ticking and I've never gotten summoned in. I guess no one sins or needs help from reds...
Guys, what's the best straight sword for quality or strength that isn't the dank sword, longsword, or broadsword?
>>334788453
Fuck those stats, invest in Luck and get Anri's straight sword.
>go STR build because sick of DEX
>been using Butcher Knife
>it's at +9 now and seems to be rather lacking in the damage department
>unsure if I should waste a slab on it
What do?
>>334788119
>needing Havel's ring
>needing heavy armour
>>334775308
honestly i love the concept of purple but execution is shit, still i try to give them a good name
>invade host
>he has a gold
>me and gold duke it out while host sits and watches
>red invades
>runs up and hits host
>hellno.jpeg
>me and goldy double team him
>being the little bitchboy he is he trys to do the whole "run to the other side of the area and hide behind npc's" gig
>nope
>me and goldy hunt that fucker to the boss door and stomp his teeth in
purple would be alot more fun is the community weren't so uncreative and shitty
>>334788561
Don't bother with it, pick up heavy spiked mace and never look back.
Weapon art is shit but you'll be too busy wrecking bosses and mobs alike to care.
>>334783271
Hit them from behind
>>334776112
First time I was 36 and got to invade a lot
Second time I was lvl 24 and got even more invasions.
>be Wolfie
>be summoned to defend forest
>find some red dickward form the rosaria's fingers
>he attacks me
>run away, find Host and kill him
>get summoned agan
>same redfag retard
>keeps attacking me
>run away, find host, kill him
This kept happening like seven times. Dunno why the faggot was attacking me since he gets no reward form killing watchdogs and it was totally to his advantage to have me around, but hey, whatever.
>>334788286
Just be a blueberry, higher odds of being summoned and they use the same item.
>>334788453
Lothric knight
>>334788768
You sure it was Heysel? He seems to target me almost exclusively if I'm anywhere near him.
>>334786484
he returns after you kill a boss.
>>334788119
You either got the spitting rocks pyromancy or used it for souls.
>>334788578
I was thinking maybe havel has good sinnergy with that ring that gives you more attack if you have a low load.
I just got the moonlight greatsword and I'm in LOVE with it. Great moveset and sexy ass special moves. Why's everyone saying its shit?
>>334783223
why do they brand you with the peace and love symbol ?
Got the Watchdogs covenant, lvl 40s, +3 weapon. Sitting there for 3 hours, only 1 summon. While hearing friends in the same range getting nonstop summons.
Covenants not bugged my ass.
Sasuga Miyazaki
>>334789431
>lvl 40s
Higher than I would do. I've been high 30s for awhile but still not getting anything.
>>334789431
>unironically joining most tryhard covenant
i finished the first one, do i have to play the second one before this one?
>>334789431
>>334789593
Where do you guys wait at?
I seem to get more summons when I'm actually in the swamp as opposed to another area where the Covenant is active.
>>334788687
This was what I did for a while. With a heavy gem infusion it does good damage until you can find or upgrade something better. I started using the Vordt's Great Hammer once I had some scales to upgrade it, but I've recently switched to the Gargoyle Flame Hammer because I'm also running some Faith on the side for when I pick up Morne's Great Hammer.
Even though the faith scaling on the Gargoyle hammer is pretty shitty, I'm getting ~700 mixed damage out of it already with 38 STR and 28 FTH. Can't wait to pick up Morne's hammer later, even though it loses the FTH scaling.
>>334789694
Yes.
You can even stop on the second one until they fix the third one.
>>334773565
Speaking of covenants, should I just kill Sirris if I pissed her off? From what it sounds like, she just fucks off anyway until NG+.
>>334789894
Are you in the fingers? Then yes as I'm pretty sure there's nothing you can do with her now.
>>334790030
I already got the mound makers from her anyway, so I don't think I can do anything from her anyway.
Guess it's time for her to die.
>>334789719
I wait at the top of the tower where the wolf is. Get consisten summons.
>>334789894
Just follow her quest to the end because he dies, seems pointless to join the fingers and fail the quest when you just need to follow it to the conclusion.
>>334789383
Tried it, does nothing
>>334790282
I didn't know anything about that shit. I just knew you could get the mound makers again from her. I have the mound makers and she swore loyalty to me, but now she's pissed at me and someone else said she leaves until NG+. If that's the case, I might as well just kill her right?
>>334790389
Yes.
>A Soulsborne game has shitty covenants
What else is new?
>>334790614
But they're the shittiest of the series.
>Sunbro covenants
>Get fun coop AND fun invasion
Often when I invade there is already one or two others invaders and when I'm alone a buddy invade with me in 1 or 2 min, I just have to wait.
>trying to get Bloodlust through mound
>maybe 3 out of 40~ invasions didn't have helpful phantoms for the host
>>334781115
What are the OP weapons in this one?
Only one that's stuck out to me is the estoc so far x.x
>>334790769
Considering sunbro invaders prioritize worlds that are already invaded, it shouldn't suprise you that you get to help out another invader
>>334787625
What armor is this?
>>334791234
Drakeblood
>>334788578
How else are you supposed to get below 30% with a huge weapon
>>334791357
>he doesn't fatroll
I've heard rumors about how shitty the variety of builds in DaS III is.So i am guessing i won't be able to transfer my play style from 2 into 3?
Talking about fatrolling: I wanna become the beefiest fatrolling piece of shit out there. I'm only at the beginning of the game though, my question to those who completed it already: can you even use stuff like full havels + shield and a xbox huge weapon and still be <100% equip load? I've read that this shit weighs a ton in this game and it might not even be possible to go full fat fuck
>>334791627
I honestly don't think i've ever done a fatroll playthrough of any of the games
>mfw still waiting for darkmoon invasions
Not. Fucking Once.
>>334791764
In DaS II you can do it no sweat.
>>334789383
Nope, because your load is still the same. Havel's just allows your fast roll at a higher percentage.
>>334773565
>BUT only against aldrich guys.
Is this supposed to be Darkmoon? because you're literally wrong. Unless Aldrich guys can somehow invade fucking everywhere and are also red or purple and are also called dark spirits or mad cunts.
Darkmoon are literally exactly and completely the same as Blue Sentinels and it's literally and completely gay.
>>334791948
>I honestly don't think i've ever done a fatroll playthrough of any of the games
Fat rolling makes the games too easy.
All you need to do it keep your distance with running and roll only in extreme situations.
>>334792107
How does that playstyle cause fat rolling to be the key to how easy it is if you do it as rarely as possible.
>>334791627
Good lord are you playing that on a toaster?
>for the win
Kill you'reself.
>>334791153
It should actually, because this system relies on the host having used a dry finger, so the amount of worlds which can have two invaders is pathetically small, and then you take out the amount of worlds which had a not sunbro invader in them before the sunbro invader invaded.
It's still pretty rare.
>>334788768
That's an NPC invader, silly.
>>334792273
It is more that stats that you gain by making yourself roll fat that make the game too easy.
Not the fatroll itself.
>>334792278
Stay mad and yes.
DaS II is optimized to run on older machines.
>>334792250
>huh
Did you see the part with 4 ADP on the bottom image?
>>334787275
>>334787112
From what I've seen some pyromancies scale from the hand's level and some scale from stats or maybe the state and hand, I know the fire sword buff scales solely from hand level and no stat scaling at all but I'm pretty sure the fire orb spells all increase in damage with higher stat scaling.
>>334792726
>From what I've seen some pyromancies scale from the hand's level and some scale from stats or maybe the state and hand
Pyromancy Scaling is ansolute garbage with both the hand and the stats. To make it do good damage you want the Pyromancer Ring (+15% fire damage), the Fire Clutch ring (Another +15%), and the Witch Ring (A whopping 25%). They all stack additively so it's an ENORMOUS damage bonus.
You probably also want the Sage Ring. Sage Ring and 16 DEX hard caps your cast speed equal to 99 dex and no sage ring.
>>334778890
>blue sentimel for 3/4 of my playthrough
>one summon
>host and I body four invaders
>started as two, but instantly get invaded when we kill the first and again on the second
>absolutely blow them away by boxing them into a shitty cave, using rock positioning to fuck up their swings, swapping between each other's target to backstab
>switch to way of blue late in the game after I never get blue summoned again
>every dude who blues in just tears at invaders like retards, getting eaten by mobs and led into traps
>realize these were the dipshits preventing me from getting sentimel summons
>now let all sentinels die alone to whatever they charge into out of spite
>>334782136
Mirrah is pretty good.
After I got the fire witch top and gloves and the pontiff bottoms though, I am pretty set on my gear.
>>334791985
You want to know why? Because the sentinals and darkmoon are summoned too slow. I can't have an effective fight club free for all with blue bros because they are called in too slow. White/Sun are more effective for madness.
>Tfw blue sentinel to punish evil doers
>Rarely get summoned
>If I get summoned, I have to get the killing blow on the enemy or I get jack shit
>Only have 2 proof of konkord after being a blue sentinel for 28hrs.
>Can't invade evil doers, have to wait and hope the thing of the thing works in the area I am in
I tried so hard to lose it all, in the end it doesn't even matter.
So I just entered the Kiln for the first time
I never found an NPC to give my pyromancy scrolls to. Who did I miss?
>My face when my favorite covenant was Forrest Guardians
>Watchdogs of Farron was basically Forrest Guardians with a not Dead Dog
Shame soul level has to be lower than dirt to participate but it was fun while it lasted.
>>334793441
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Cornyx+of+the+Great+Swamp
Please tell me, are there still fight clubs like in DS2? If this game has something like the Iron Keep bridge I'll be so happy.
>>334793441
Both Cornyx and Waifu Witch. Corny is in the Undead Settlement, in a cage up in the area with the three dudes who throw firebombs. Waifu Witch is in Irithryil Dungeon, in the large area that has like 9 Jailors in it and a bunch of locked cells. She's in one of the locked cells.
>>334793627
Yes, Pontiff bonfire.
>>334793627
I've been in dozens of fight clubs so far.
Three main areas that i've had organise sign based pvp are;
Cathedral of the Deep, Chapel bonfire
Entrance to Irthril
And the area immediately behind the Pontiff boss
>>334793678
>>334793708
Sweet. I'll have to be patient until I make it there.
>That change in music when yougive Firekeeper the eyes
>Doing invasions as a Sunbro.
>Being an absolute shitter.
>Chug Estus like crazy.
>Hang around enemies like an asshat.
>Spam the welcome gesture and clap whenever I've made a kill.
I feel like I should equip myself with a flaming katana to better match my playstyle.
what are the best pvp weapns right now? whats op?
>>334776741
Try unequipping the covenant item and equiping it back, sometimes it seems to get locked in some guy with shit connection or something
>>334779684
My sides, this is accurate tho
So do I need every ring, including the +1 and +2 variants, to get the achievement? That feels like it'd be shitty to lock behind so many rings behind ranks of covenants on top of NG++.
>>334786529
Shitty rats are pretty much all there's left nowadays
Just yesterday I got pulled by one, fucker was spamming soul arrows at me while the mastodon and rat on the first room waddled my way
Just went all the way left to the ramp where you pick up the gyrm greataxe, healed, waited for him to follow and fucked him up with heavenly thunder. It was a full drangleic dude with Vengarl's helm, of course
>>334796557
yeah, I have that question too, I real that you need all variants as well. but don't quote me on that
The only real problem with pvp that I have is that hosts can re-summon phantoms to fast. They should only allow purples to be summoned if a red is in your world. Other than that I really like the system so far.
>>334773617
But is an a press just an a press
>>334776251
That shit is easy to farm though. I got my wolf ring in under and your. Try farming fucking ears in anal rodeo.
SINNERS BEWARE
WHEN I GET SUMMONED I'LL FUCK YOU UP
ANY DAY NOW
pls remember to praise the moon
>>334784332
You don't actually have to cut them down
>>334775554
you can aggro enemies to fuck with the player
i'd imagine you can red-eye as them and do the same
>>334782097
Dragonscale/Nameless King's
>>334783403
These fucking giant crabs. That attack speed is something. One time when I managed to almost kill one without being stunlocked by it, he just buried in the ground and came back up full health
>>334780737
why didn't you go nearer to the boss entrance or camp the bridge or help any of the other invaders
all the kills you got were only on people who tried to fight you one on one but when you had a numbers advantage you ignored it to chase another guy
>>334773565
Darkmoon should invade anyone that's Aldritch Faithful in Anor Londo
>>334784010
if you do catacombs before cathedral its pretty easy to miss the rest of anri's questline
>>334785926
The area after pontiff is a pvp arena, tons of fightclubs
>>334788453
irithyll straight sword
great range
>Souls online is shit
I dont have a slow enough poke for this
>>334779724
You can find a pale tongue way earlier than that. It's when you fight the demon with siegmeyer, it's on a hanging body that you have to shoot down.
>Be me
>Be a Blade of The Darkmoon
>See an Aldritch Faithful
>Go full ham every time
Eat My Prince, faggots. I'll fucking show you.
>>334773565
Yes covenants are the real problem not the fact that a game with combat as it's only gameplay mechanic has only a handful of viable weapons. I made the mistake of going with fugs. The only way I can safely kill a boss is if I roll attack and that's it. Only one time. While a darksword can do triple the damage in half the time it tskes for me to swing and recover.
>>334776112
Please refrain from posting unrelated images of this ugly fat e-celeb.
>>334775554
>I don't understand the Mound-Maker's role
I'ts pretty simple.
>>334773565
>Purple boner covenant for trolls who try to backstab you when you're fighting enemies, and will never ever get summoned after week 1
This covenant would have had much more potential if invaders could also summon them. It'd give red invaders someone to work with but not someone they could trust, and also give the purple guys some actual choice: Should they defend the host to gain their trust, or help kill them to get a share of the spoils?
>>334775713
>You risk a higher skill phantom
Pfthahah. No.
>>334804514
>From
>putting work or balance into anything
Hohohohooh
>>334774525
It's worse. They can't do online.
>Mound Maker
>The only way to get shit is to kill the host
So why even pretend you're going to help them, if killing the host is the only thing that gets you shit?
You may as well just go Sunbro if you're going to help. Otherwise you're just wasting time and fucking around.
Nobody is going to trust a Moundmaker to help them, once they know what the Covenant actually is.
>>334804514
>>334804663
>Red invader summons two purples on his way to hunting down the host
>Host summons a white and a sunbro of his own to counteract them
>They get into a showdown, but the moment it looks like the red phantom is losing, the purples will quickly see the weakness and turn on him
God that would have been awesome. It's like hiring thugs that only work for the winning side: If you fuck up, the will turn on you quickly.
>>334776980
Thank squads AND you gotta fight the enemies? That's too much
>People actually defending mound maker.
You guys are fucking stupid.
>>334805250
Moundmakers seem built around the idea that they are meant to use one of those phantom disguise rings to betray those that summon them. You are not meant to actually be summoned as a purple unless it is for PvP.
It's a solid idea, but it is kinda made moot when you can do covenant stuff like Sunbro-ing while also invading and killing as a red anyway.
>>334805426
The covenants in DaS III are shit.
DaS II has the best covenants.
>>334805272
That would work only if the Mound-makers got something for it. Otherwise they only really got rewards for killing the host.
Maybe killing phantoms of any kind would also give the same reward? Like killing a red would give an equally good, if not better reward as it would for killing the host.
>>334805731
Mound Makers get a reward for killing phantoms, anon.
>>334805861
Do they? Well that's one thing down then.
Guess it'd make more sense to summon them to fight watchdogs since they would get rewards more frequently then.
>>334805953
basically they are the wildcard group, they get a reward for killing the host, or however one to two phantoms.
Since phantoms are generally easier to kill it's more advantagous for mound makers to befriend hosts and protect them.
But if they're never invaded, run out of estus and put themselves into a compromising position, well, who am I to turn away a free vertebra?
>>334779684
Swap forest and dickwraiths and this feels accurate
>>334779821
Its a fucking npc you retard
>at Irithyll just got rest by Pontiff solo
>summon sun bro at bonfire since I'm a shitter
>2 steps out the door get invaded
>30 secs of posturing 2v1 and get a message that police on the way since I'm a shitter
>rednigger going ham since he realises how fucked he is
>get him to about 25%
>cop shows up after about 3 mins
>backstabs rednigger, he's on about 5%
>he gets away and the cop chases him into every fucking enemy in the level
>dies immediately and then they all aggro to me and sunbro
>2v1 is now 2v5
>die
Fucking cops are always dumbshits
>>334807130
Git gud citizen
>>334783271
Just lure them behind the columns to avoid magic spam then dodge to their right all the time when the knight brother is attacking you and lastly hit them from behind since the bran bro can bring hodor back to life again.you should focus on bran.
>>334807130
>>he gets away and the cop chases him into every fucking enemy in the level
>>dies immediately and then they all aggro to me and sunbro
This isn't how enemy agro works in dark souls which means that you and your sunbro followed the cop as he chased like a retard instead of methodically clearing the level
Which makes you just as much of a dumbshit if not more so since you clearly already knew that doing this was a mistake but did it anyway.
in short, git gud and stop blaming others for your problems.
>>334773565
Purple people eaters best covenant the way hosts react when I backstab the guy who invaded will never cease to amuse me
>>334784135
it's the well outside the Cathedral bonfire. However, he won't actually be there until you've opened the front door of the main cathedral. So unless you double back at some point, chances are you will miss him, because there are quicker ways back into the Cathedral from the bonfire once the shortcuts are opened up. Anyway, once you open it up, when you walk near it you'll hear dialogue
>>334793102
>dorkmoons can't invade sinners
what were from thinking
>>334776741
Not gonna argue that, as it's pretty obvious that they have some issues with the servers. The biggest issues typically come when one party loses connection while you're joining or summoning someone into your world.
I'm getting invaded constantly at level 43 with +4 and it's been a real ride. Back to back invasions, where I'll have multiple invaders in series between a single bonfire without resting. For whatever reason, though, summoning friendly phantoms has an insane amount of issues for me. When it comes to fixing these issues, sometimes it's as simple as re-equipping the covenant, signing out of the game and signing back in, or changing the matching password. Other times shit just randomly breaks, and there's nothing to be done about it.
>Purple guy invades
>Seems like a cool dude
>I patches squat and just prepare to just let him fight my buddy that was summoned
>Bluefag joins
>He instantly tries to kill purple
>Purple gets him real low
>Blue instantly runs to hide behind us and heals
>I ain't having this shit
>Do nothing and just let purple make sweet love to the blues anus
>He kills blue and leaves waving
If you're going to try to be a blue then don't be a little bitch and run to hide behind the host. Have some fucking self-respect.
>>334784723
>starting off with a class that doesn't have 10 Int
>dying to Orbeck
>obviously using guides and shit
You're one hell of a pansy cunt.
What the fuck is even the point of summoning purple phantoms? What exactly can they do that a white can't with the added bonus they cannot turn on you and will help through boss battles?
>tfw slowly beginning to realize Dark Souls 3 is not much better than Dark Souls 2
>>334813797
DeS=DS>DS3>BB>DS2
>>334813797
I realized that pretty early.
A lot of bosses are literal gimmicks
PVP is pure trash now, not even a duel arena, even more of a R1 spam
Build variety is almost non existant as opposed to DSII where you could have fun with a TON of different stuff
Magic is trash to the poin it's humiliating, at least DS2 offered you lots of options and many spells that hit from different directions to the point it was actually viable for once in pvp
Enemies still do the 180/360 spin, except now they ALL have infinite stamina and can perform huge combos forever
Ganksquads still in, except instead of trash there are now gansquads of powerful lightning fast enemies
World has barely any connection at all, mostly all warp zones
No npc gravestones
Honestly SM is the only thing I don't like about DSII, everything else seems better than DS3. Sure the areas don't look as great but DS2 has a lot more of them.
What astonishes me is people saying Dark Souls 3 is so much better when the SAME EXACT problems they shitted all over DS2 are still present, except it now has more.
In the end Dark Souls 2 has a lot more content and the gameplay is far more fun, with the exception of SM that at least got somewhat fixed with that ring.
>>334788630
>ganksquading
>call the red bitch boy for using his only asset during a ganksquad.
you're the only bitch boy I see in that story.
>>334795067
Estoc and katanas. Don't fall for the straight sword meme, only shitters never roll out after 2 hits.
>>334813797
When your brain fully matures you'll also realize that Dark Souls 1 was a piece of shit and that the series has never been good, it's just had endless potential that has kept people sticking around and disappointed each time.
>>334815368
nah, it's already a great franchise
it's just varying degrees of it, and nostalgia goggles make it disproportionate
>>334795067
ASS.
It's the new BKH.
>>334814840
>get summoned into a 2v1
>im the ganksquad
not sure if retarded or autistic
>"It's a Dark Sword r1 spammer that has the magical god of phantom range and partial parries on his side" episode
They'll never get this shit right.
What is the mettaa? 100 or 120?
>>334814542
>Enemies still do the 180/360 spin
Except they don't?
>>334784881
>neogaf is real
Yeah just go to a BB thread
>>334773565
What do covenants do, I'm new, i just beat the giant skeleton guy on first try, also I'm pretty sure i skipped crystal sage by accident
>>334789418
becausethis land is peaceful its inhabitants kind
Haven't been invaded once but already played for 7 hours...am I doing something wrong here?
>>334774346
>have summoned several grapebros
>always work together for a bit to clear an area before ending it with a duel
>summon one a few hours ago
>he goes straight after me, no bowing or anything. Suddenly dark spirit invades
>they both try their hardest to herd me into a corner and butt fuck me
>get them both down to one more hit using enemies to distance them both
>they finally kill me
I enjoy light hearted shenanigans but fuck being grape just to go straight for a kill. Might as well be red at that point.
