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Jesus Christ
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power of the cell
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>unfinished game looks unfinished

wow what a discovery OP
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>>334758473
>IT'S A BETAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Whoa...
This is next gen!
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>>334758081
>no female party members
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>>334758473
>out in a couple of months
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whoa....

so this is the power of the ps4....
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>>334758851
>pre-beta from oct 2015, almost a full year before release
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Whoah

Simply Whoah!
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>>334758473
>10 years
>I-it's in development
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Open World video games were a mistake

I waited 10 years for this game and it looks like this

Thanks Square Enix
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>>334759580
It was open world from the very start
It was open world before the open world boom
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>>334759221
He did the electric slide.
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>>334758830
Yeah the sausage fest kinda kills it for me as well.
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>>334759819
>It was open world from the very start
that is completely false

Nomura had plans to create an overworld similar to the other Final Fantasy games where you would plays as a smaller scaled Noctis running over a map.
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This is what you get when you try to "push the boundaries" before the tech can handle it
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>>334758081
it's going to a launch game with the ps4k which will look much better, this is the ps4 version
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They should just give up and go to 900p
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>>334760260
>He fell for the PS4K meme
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>>334760446
If the PS4k means that it will introduce normies to 60fps then I'm all for it
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>10+ years in development
>people expecting a miracle

That's not how projects work.
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>>334758830
>>334759993
come out of the closet already, fags
afraid you'll get a boner?
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>>334760043
Fuck off. There's a lot of screens and videos proving you wrong
Who are you trying to fool
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>>334760495
It's not real m8, all it is is an HDMI update for 4k blu-rays with their new copy protection (HDCP 2.2, which isn't supported on the PS4/XB1's current HDMI 1.4 technology).
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>>334760591
It's been 4 years.
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>>334760495
The Wiiu already did that
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>>334760723
normies don't play Nintendo games. This isn't 2006.
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>>334760495
Nah it'll just be more fullscreen filters at 30
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>>334758081
Ebin simply eric. This is the power of ps4.
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>>334760495
Just like the regular PS4 was going to introduce normies to 1080p/60fps, right?
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>>334760721
>Final Fantasy XV began development in 2006, and was announced as an exclusive title for the PlayStation 3 (PS3) video game console under the title Final Fantasy Versus XIII.
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>>334760495
>normies
back to red.dit newfriend
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>>334760869
>>Final Fantasy XV began development in 2006
Wrong, that was all fmv. Never trust Square Enix
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>>334758081
>Optimization literally just started
>"Hurr durr game looks unfinished"
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>>334758473
>It's been in the works for 10 years
>it comes out in just over 5 months
OK anon
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>>334760614
>Tetsuya Nomura was interviewed in this week’s Famitsu issue. Although most of the interview is about Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, he also discussed Final Fantasy Versus XIII for a little bit.

>According to the interview, the world map in the upcoming game has changed. Originally, a miniature version of Noctics would have run around the world map. Because it looked a little bit odd, however, Square Enix decided to change it to resemble another Final Fantasy title (Famitsu blocked the number off).

http://www.examiner.com/article/nomura-discusses-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-s-world-map

http://www.finalfantasyforums.net/threads/37017-Nomura-discusses-Final-Fantasy-Versus-XIII%E2%80%99s-world-map-2-17

This was from 2010 until they changed it for the 2011 gameplay video that you are talking about

Don't come in here accusing me of not knowing what I am talking about. I have been following this game for 10 years.
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>>334758585
>PS4/Xbox multiplat

You can't even shitpost right
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>>334761125

>I have been following this game for 10 years.
>watching the death of a video game for 10 years
I'm so sorry, anon.
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>>334758473
>>334758413
>>334758081
>>334758585

>mfw
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They should've added Lightning to the cast so this game actually sells.
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>>334758830
Go play X-2 you fag
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>>334761409
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>>334761409
This image describes my feelings about FF15 except I'm not black. Smug comments about how shit the game's framerate is while on the inside I'm crying because I wanted the game to be good
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>>334761453
Fuck off Toriyama.
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>>334761669

Also, I wish that I am white....
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superior PC version when?
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>>334761846
Never ever
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What's with this "every PS4 owner is now black" meme? Does that mean my penis will grow 3 extra inches too just by buying one?
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>>334761846

pretty soon... probably after few months of consoles launch
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>>334761921

HOL UP

WE
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>>334761669
>not waiting till the game is out to judge it's framerate
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>>334761846
Never ever xD
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>>334762192

>mfw
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>>334761846
>superior PC version when?


Soon after the launch nomura said.
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>>334762047
It will be shit anon. They are not doing things the way experienced devs do which is to undershoot your target system horsepower and only gradually add more effects and the like. By starting off too high and scaling back resources you end up with shit like >>334758081
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Why does ANYONE give a fuck about this or Final Fantasy?

Are you guys all super Final Fantasy fans who have played tons of Final Fantasy games or something?

I don't get it
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>>334761935
>>334762245
>>334762401
why are most sonybros so chill? Is this the legacy of Chad Warden?
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>>334762796
I actually only played a couple but I liked X a lot

I want one with really good story and cinematics and atmosphere and cool magic n shiet
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What's this, the third XV shitposting thread in a row?
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>>334762821
They said they would like to take full advatage of the PC but they would need to start for the ground up again and use the most up to date shit, so I don't know man.
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>>334762962
For a game this doomed there is no hope of salvation
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>>334762695
>By starting off too high and scaling back resources you end up with shit like >>334758081(OP)
Something that's clearly unfinished? I'm not saying they can magically make it look amazing by the time the game comes out but there's no way it'll look that bad.
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>>334758473
The fucking delusion of Squarefags ladies and gentlemen

Goddamn this game might actually end up being worse than FFXIII
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whoa...

4theplayers...
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>>334760819
That's a nintendo game though.
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>>334761556
but x-2 is better than all the new FF anyway. Whats your point?

>Go play a decent game

you sure showed him you salty fuckwit
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>>334763017
>>334763105


But what if it's better?

Also this game actually looks like a Final Fantasy game unlike the XIII saga.
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>>334763043
Anon I've seen games that look like that when they are "finished." It's stripped down assets and scaled back textures and models
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so shitposting threads are just allowed nowadays?
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>>334763262
>Also this game actually looks like a Final Fantasy game unlike the XIII saga.
B-B-BUH-BUH-BUT MUH BOYBAAAAAAAAND
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Hahahaha
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>>334761669
You couldn't have wanted it to be good that badly, since you've already decided it sucks six months before anyone's played it.
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>>334763190
It's meant to show you what will happen when you release a new iteration of hardware (N3DS) that is better than the old iteration (3DS) but they still share games. The games will be built for the new hardware and the old hardware will get silky smooth 18 fps
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>>334763262
Nope.
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>>334763448
I fucking love how Noctis looks like he's in disbelief in the right image.
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>>334758081
PKEKS WILL NEVER EVER PLAY THIS AMAZING LOOKING GAME
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>>334758081
What the fuck am I seeing here

>Young Solid Snake driving
>Young Liquid calling Shotgun
>Kojima and Big Boss talking in the back
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>>334763449
More like b-but muh generic open world

I'd rather have corridors than Assassin's Creed
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>tfw none of the dev team are the same from the critically praised final fantasy games
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>>334763625
>XIII
>XIV

Well done.
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>>334762962

It's the school holidays in Australia.

Go figure why the shitposting is out of control.
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>>334763613
Do you know what pessimism is?
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>>334760613
>afraid you'll get a boner?
im afraid i wont
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>>334763832
Nope, nope.
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>>334763632
Guy's from New Jersey.

He's surprised he has to pump his own gas
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>>334763847
And then Cloud was an automobile.
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>>334763425
>Anon I've seen games that look like that when they are "finished."
This is pre-beta footage, so it's not "finished".
>It's stripped down assets and scaled back textures and models
That's definitely gonna be the case but saying it's gonna look like the OP sounds a little presumptuous.

>>334763663
>I'd rather have corridors than Assassin's Creed
Who says this is gonna be like Assassin's Creed?
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>>334763748
>That draw distance
>That background blur
>Those shitty buildings
>That vegetation
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>>334763425
Yeah but just because Deadly Premonitions did it doesn't mean FFXV will.
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>>334763815
They're from the KH2 team instead

>>334763865
A miserable way to live a life

>>334763919
Nigger, can you read?

FFXIV is not part of the XIII saga.
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>>334764041
>That's definitely gonna be the case but saying it's gonna look like the OP sounds a little presumptuous.
Not everything, just parts that were simply too demanding for their own good
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>/v/ literally sperging out over pre-beta for a 3rd week in a row

truly the worst board
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>>334764041
It's just the way open world games like this work these days. It's probably closer to Xenoblade X if anything.

I imagine it's going to be full of loot crates and quests spread around the map and you'll just end up driving between them.
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>>334764110
Enjoy your disappointment
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>>334764110
Nope, nope, nope.
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>>334764312
This doesn't prove anything
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>>334764312
I heard some guy say FF14 is dying? Was he just shitstirring?
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>>334763748
>Clip is 6 seconds long.
>In that time, one dot at the top was filled.
>If I counted correctly, there are 58 dots.

So it would take about 348 seconds (almost 6 minutes) to get to where they're going.

What I'm wondering is, are all destinations the same length, or are they going to vary?
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>>334763448
Allowed? This is /v/, where the hivemind rules what is good and what is bad.

Everything is bad on /v/.
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FF XV haters in a nutshell:

>but look! i don't see the shadow of the feather from that bird! xDD
>it's a beta prebuild, they've already said they would fix it
>b-but then there's another problem, what's the point of warping and creating any weapon at your will? :((
>that's how they're making the game, i think it will make the gameplay interesting
>b-but muh old FFs were so basic! i don't want this shit, it's for casuals!
>don't buy the game then
>f-fuck you! i didn't want this boyband crap anyway..!
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looks bad right?? So you wont buy it, stop posting about it.
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>>334764508
>i posted it again XDD
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>>334763975
>how come all the characters are weaponless and gearless, I mean, if I work for gear it would be nice to see it.
They're not? They all have weapons.

>how come they all dress in black, it's bad enough there's no weapons to set them apart and personalize the characters. But they wear matching outfits of the same color
I had the same complaint, but it's a small minus

>how come there are no girls or monsters or variety in your main group? it's just 4 boy-band guys, isn't that a bit much?
That's subjective. I don't have a problem with it, but if you do, that's fine.

>why are they going for the super modern look, why not super fantasy or sci-fi...they're driving an Audi to a gas station and texting each other, why not something more sci-fi or medieval?
I don't know man, that's what they were going for? Someone wanted the modern look and that's what's going on here.

>why has this game not been finished yet, it's 10 years...
Delays? Internal struggles? Hell if I know,

>why is the combat so clunky, everyone who plays it says it looks better than it feels
I agree the combat feels clunky, and I owe that to the realism that they're trying to do. Not a fan of it, but I'm sure you'll get a speed weapon or something.
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>>334758830
>>no female party members

wrong.
Noctis and Prompto.
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>>334764054
>Pre-Beta Gameplay
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>>334758081
Is this a Wii U game?
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>>334764227
You obviously haven't been playing video games fairly long if you think putting PRE-BETA in the top left hand corner means it will change

It's a common marketing tactic developers are using these days. Oh don't worry guys the game will have much more polish at launch this is just pre-alpha gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfe7V-_3r0
Doom just for example looks exactly the same now as in the alpha and it launches in 3 fucking weeks

If anything the current trend is the alpha ends up looking better than the final product.
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>>334764473

Not only that, but this is the 5th XV shitposting thread in a row. I thought shit like this was against the rules.
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>>334759580
I imagine you actually looking like this picture
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>>334764385
NOPE!
>>334764396
Hasn't gone B2P/F2P so I guess.
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>>334764508
It's FF15. They are obilgated to buy it. They just won't like it.
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>>334758473
>a game that took a full decade to develop
>still looks like horseshit

Squaredrones proving themselves yet again to be the beaten housewives of video game fandoms.
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>>334758081

Well, they're trying to make the next FFVII, and FFVII was a technical mess outside of its FMV, so they've at least gotten that part right.
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>>334764763
Japanese mmos don't go f2p. They just die.
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>>334764508
>how come all the characters are weaponless and gearless, I mean, if I work for gear it would be nice to see it.
>>that's how they're making the game

>how come they all dress in black, it's bad enough there's no weapons to set them apart and personalize the characters. But they wear matching outfits of the same color
>>that's how they're making the game

>how come there are no girls or monsters or variety in your main group? it's just 4 boy-band guys, isn't that a bit much?
>that's how they're making the game

>why are they going for the super modern look, why not super fantasy or sci-fi...they're driving an Audi to a gas station and texting each other, why not something more sci-fi or medieval?
>>that's how they're making the game

>why has this game not been finished yet, it's 10 years...
>>that's how they're making the game

>why is the combat so clunky, everyone who plays it says it looks better than it feels
>that's how they're making the game
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>>334764659
Oh yeah they'll fix the entire thing in 5 months. It's going to look so much better.

Goddamn you are fucking deluded
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>>334764731
The rules only matter when a mod opens his eyes and slams his dorito hands across his keyboard. The rest of the time is shitposting time...
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>>334764823
>FFVII was a technical mess

how so
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>>334764704

I'm been playing vidya for 30 years.

Fuck off.
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>>334764823
FFVII played the same as any other JRPG from that era, what are you on about?
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>>334764903
>Pre-Beta Gameplay
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>>334764903
>October 2015 to September 2016
>5 months
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>>334764963
Sure thing kiddo.
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>mfw I'm starting to accept this game will be underwhelming as fuck.

Literally this year's MGSV
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>>334764919
The evade stat on armor did nothing
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>>334758081
>pre-beta

Didn't the greek alphabet had a letter that came right before beta? What was it called again...
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>>334765021
>out in 5 months
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>>334764054
Says the witchercuck.
Your game is no better in that regard
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>>334764181

>it's you using a lesser value comparison thus it's a false equivalence as it doesn't meet the parameters of the initial situation.

hence it's a reduction. the point is to show that the argument depends upon those parameters. the argument itself proves nothing. you need favourable parameters. such as, whether it's a good fucking game feature in the first place. so you can't use it to PROVE that it is a good feature.

>And so what?

i don't see how you're trying to market this as an argument against the criticism. and so, that's bad.

>So you are saying that they have access to magic powers, and thus can use those magic powers to do magic things, wow it's almost as if weapon summoning is purely magic or something.

no, not necessarily magic, just preternatural, outside the realms of normal physical constraints.

>And Noctis has all his weapons equipped at once which he can manually switch to on the fly, what the fuck is your point?

that he doesn't carry the weapons. stop asking what my point is when i've laid it out very clearly. you can't be so stupid you haven't noticed that JRPG fans like it when they can see their character actually using the stuff they equip.

> in XV there is an actual explanation and you are sperging out like a complete fucking autistic faggot

the explanation is there, that isn't the problem - the problem is the lack of visual feedback on your customisation of the character. snake might pull weapons out of his ass, but he carries them when they are equipped. do you think it would be just as good were he not to do this? if the gun just appeared when you went to aim, would this fly with you?

>No it really isn't,

you're arguing that a jrpg isn't an rpg now? well that's getting to the point of absurdity.
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FF died to save you from Neptunia.
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>>334763575
>JUST MAKE IT DARKER SO THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THE SHIT GRAPHICS!
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>>334765176
>Pre-Beta Gameplay
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>>334761125

This is good.

The old overworld system is shit, and I'd like to see how they work with open-world.
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>>334758081
What part of prebeta do you faggots not get? The article literally even says it's from an early unfinished build of the game.
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>>334764867
Guess so.
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>>334765230
>out in 5 months
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>>334765109

uhh pretty sure it did, never heard of that bug and no one I know has either.

is that your "huge technical mess" ?
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>>334760772
>normies don't play Nintendo games.
But I'm a normie and I love Nintendo, granted I love Sony as well but that's not the case.
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>>334765323
>Pre-Beta Gameplay
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>>334765323
>>334765068
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>>334765176

>all pre-beta shown is older than 5 months

What's your point?
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How do either sides of this argument manage to keep this up for five threads?
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>>334765252

ok summoning weapons is gay as it is, but how does this little faggot know how to use EVERY weapon?

being good with swords doesn't make u good with maces wtf
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>>334765068
>October 2015

So they basically have less than a year to make it not look like a complete pile of shit? Boy I sure am glad Squeenix knows how to manage their budget and time.
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>>334758636
>>334758851
>>334759375
>>334761094
>>334763105
>>334764790

Not that anon, I haven't liked a FF game since 9. Every other one besides 6 is shit.

But you shitheads just further prove how little most shitters on /v/ know about actual game development pacing.

Also, this was 2015 beta footage. This games gonna be great and you're jaded. I hope you don't enjoy it anywhere near as much as I will.
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>Sheath-kun is still going.
Someone make it stop.
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>>334765346

he's thinking of this:

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Defense_bug

ffvi had the evade bug.
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>>334765402
its exhausting just skimming through it
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>>334763748
>devs listen to their fans and try to make XV less linear
>literally driving on a fenced road
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Here's a question for you /v/.

Name a SINGLE game that drastically changed for the better from early build footage.
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>>334765454

see

>>334764963


kill yourself
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>>334765346
Nah I'm not the guy who said that, just bringing up issues.

It's actually magdef though

>The Magic Defense bug is a bug in Final Fantasy VII, which is similar to the Evade bug found in Final Fantasy VI. This bug prevents the Magic Defense stat of any armor equipped from being added to a character's Spirit stat, effectively making the Magic Defense of all armor worthless.
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>>334764054
Wow almost like it's an unfinished build and it says prebeta right there and the article it was from says it's an early unfinished build or something, whoa.
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>>334765452

It's in his bloodline
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>>334765454
Entire games are made in less than a year m8, come on now.
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>>334765452
Tidus is a fucking blitzball player and turns into a swordmaster in 2 minutes
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>>334765068
>>334765021
m8 they didn't even improve the graphics from their last two demos which were like a year apart

Do you people live in the same world as me? Have you not been paying attention to all the massive downgrades in graphics between the "alpha" and the final product?

See: Every Ubisoft game, see From Software, see CDPR, see Order 1886, see Just Cause 3
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>2006 was fucking 10 years ago

Why
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>>334765462
>Every other one besides 6 is shit.
>you're jaded.

Top irony.

>I hope you don't enjoy it anywhere near as much as I will.

If you enjoy eating Square's shit then that's your own business.
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>>334765005

Yeah, I suppose I'm unfairly comparing it visually to everything Square made on the PS1 after that game, which looked lightyears better than just about anything else on the platform rather than looking about as good and being carried by its FMV.
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>>334765549
>>334765495

oh i see.
i don't consider that bug a technical mess or gamebreaking. the game was easy enough as it was, having magic defense might've made it too easy lel
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>>334765548
Still looks like shit, thanks for nothing.

>>334765618
Unlike FFXV which took 10 years and still has barely anything to show for it.
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>>334765659
>Pre-Beta Gameplay
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>>334764879
They aren't weaponless, they all have weapons

They all dress in black because it's the color of the royal organization they are from, they all have weapons, they also all have their own individual personalities, designs and backstories, the only thing they have in common is black clothes because they are from the same place, the same royal organization

There is going to be temporary female party members who join, why would there need to be monsters? FF1, FF2, FF3, FF4, FF5, FF8, FF13 didn't have non human party members, also you can have chocobo's travel with and camp with you.

The game is a urban fantasy mixed with medieval fantasy setting with magitek mechs with a story about a prince from a modern kingdom being exiled after his kingdom was invaded and his crsytal stolen, with the medieval kingdom with knights and dragoons using their magitek to take over the kingdom, with the MC then going on a quest to save his kingdom by gathering all the summons to defeat his enemies, and then once he is king dealing with a plague that is threatening the whole world, it's literally an FF5, 6 and FF7 setting mixed into one, there is no audi in the game.

The game known as Versus was a concept that was announced in 2006, it never got off the ground and even then only started as an actual game in 2010 before being put on hold, all because of FF13, FF14 and Crystal Tools, Versus becamse XV in 2012 and that is when full development actually began

The combat is actually responsive if you bothered to play it and try weapons like the Heroes Shield, Cross Shurike and Airstep Sword while doing the weapon swiches, aerial combos, perfect blocks and more.
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>>334764459
Not only that, look at how fast the gas tank is draining. Is this game going to be 40% truck stops?
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>>334765659
Optimization is the last stage of development, after the game is feature complete.
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>>334765636

>Tidus is gay too!

ya he is, so is Vaan, so is Noctis
whats ur point
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>>334765569
>Whoa. I'm actually completely fucking retarded enough to think it will change. I live in a world where we live in the clouds with castles and rainbows everywhere.

Well you're optimistic at least. I would honestly bet anyone $1,000 on this board if I could that it actually ends up looking worse at release
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>>334765192
You were already wrecked in the last thread, no one is going to bother with your autistic bullshit.

Go cry over not being able to see weapons in the PSP remakes
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>>334765725
I thought you were talking about the gameplay not the graphics, which no sane person would think looks good outside the FMVs and MAYBE the battle models.
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>>334763748
dang, I remember when xenobladeX was out and people spammed FFXV demo to show "real open world".. Now it looks ready for a WiiU port.
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>>334764867
Most f2p dies too.
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>>334765323
prebeta build is from October 2015 idiot.
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>>334765569
>it's a prebeta that took 10 years to develop

Thank you based Square Enix
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>Sheath-kun still shitting up the thread.

SOMEONE GET HIM HIS MEDS, QUICK
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>>334763919

>OMG WOW JEE HOW AMAZING.

The LAST thing that game needs is more particle effects.
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>>334765791
I want what you're on because it completely shuts you off from reality. Heroin? LSD?
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>>334765819
>They aren't weaponless, they all have weapons

we want to see the weapons and gear, all their shit is invisible and kept in their ass 99% of the time.

>They all dress in black because that's how the game is designed

we don't like that design, that's the problem

>There is going to be temporary female party members

we don't like temporary, we want long-term eye candy, not a sausage fest.

>The game is a urban fantasy mixed with medieval fantasy

the game is too urban, we don't want that.

>The combat is actually responsive

GI said it's not great, it looks better than it feels, and they tested it this month. They said it might get better before release, but it's not guaranteed cause it's only 5 months away
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>XV-kun still shitting up the thread.

SOMEONE GET HIM HIS MEDS, QUICK
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>>334766117
It could use better looking water.
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>>334766218
That looks like the physics are tied to the framerate. That can't be.
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>FFXV FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

You only have yourself to blame at this point.
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>>334766114
>sheath-kun
>thinks it's one person
>doesn't realize sheath-kun made a fair point and now others are copying it
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>>334765514
You can drive off road.
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>>334766206
>we
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>>334766218
>dat lod
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>>334765101
>having positive expectations for things
>ever
I'm looking forward to this game and I hope it's good but I'm not holding my breath.
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>>334764963
Why would they intentionally show the dogshit looking version of the game, when they already have a better looking version/build?
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>Input Lag
>Low Fps
>Shit draw distance
>Less than stellar combat

There are way too many who defend this game and think all these problems will be fixed at launch. Is this the first video game you guys have ever seen? Have you idiots never followed the launch of other games that all showed the same issues prelaunch and suffered from them at launch?

You are fucking delusional
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>>334765767
>>334766032

FFXV only started full development in 2012 and ha only been on Luminous since 2014

They were not working on this one fucking build for 10 years, it was even a fucking game 10 years ago, back in 2010 is when the PS3 version actually started as a game and only be around 20 devs in their spare time, it was put on hold in late 2010 then didn't start up again until mid 2012, at that point they rebooted the entire project to FFXV, gave it an actual 300 member dev team, they started making it for 8th gen platforms, at the time it was just a DX11 engine so they could eventually migrate it to Luminous since Luminous was not done yet, then in 2014 is when they actually had it on Luminous engine

Fuck off with this 10 year meme, every single asset used in XV right now is things they have only been creating and used since 2013.
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>tfw I thought the shitposting would cease after
DS3's release

how silly of me
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>>334766218
Pop goes the weasel
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>>334766310
>Sheath-kun is still going
SOMEONE QUICK HE'S GOING TO DIE
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>>334766401
Because the better looking verison is the PC version

The """"""""""""""Pre-Beta Gameplay""""""""""""""" is the console version.
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>>334766171
I'm on:
>Pre-Beta Gameplay
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>>334766497

welcome to australian school holidays
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>>334766494
ok

soooo

Their 4 years of work is shit then. Same fucking point, dickhead.
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>>334765873
Optimisation is always about removing features, not adding them last minutes. It's easier for the game creation process to create something bloated and cut parts of it than adding them because of the way things need to be validated and tested when added, but removing them just need putting code between /**/ and do some tests. This is why all games go through bullshots and nobody cares. It's normal working flow. And why starfox going back to dev to add graphics was a big deal. It's not standard.
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>>334766206
>we want to see the weapons and gear, all their shit is invisible and kept in their ass 99% of the time.
And? It's magic and they can summon it.

>we
Yeah nah go kill yourself Sheath-kun.
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Some of the FF tunes are great and all but would be awesome if we could use our own music when driving.
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>>334766206
>the game is too urban, we don't want that.
I do.
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liking final fantasy in 2016 is like liking the simpsons in 2016
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>>334766494
Oh sorry my bad, it took 5 years to develop a beta. Thanks again based Square Enix.
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>>334766420
we can hope for the best. FF XIII wasn't a good game, but at least it was polished as FUCK regarding those problems you mentioned.
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>>334766218
And again, prebeta, early unfinished build from before they implemented their LOD shadows, you were told this in the last thread, what the fuck is wrong with you?

That is from the October 2015 build which did not have LOD shadows, in January 2016 Tabata confirmed they only just added in LOD shadows
https://youtu.be/hRGwI39dNqg?t=48m32s
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I'll admit I normally pay no attention to FF, but is the defense force typically this fucking strong? I mean, they must not do it for free, right?
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>>334765520
No one's saying it'll change "drastically" for the better, just that it won't look as shitty as it does now. I'm not expecting much, but certainly better than something that's blatantly unfinished.
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>>334766401
This is something I don't get either. I can understand GameInformer's footage being outdated since they recorded footage months ago but that Platinum demo what the fuck were they thinking.

I'm still getting the game but I would be lying if that shit didn't kill my hype. Open-world was likely a mistake too.
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woah
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>>334766749

>look mom I posted it again and it a few minutes I'm going to reply to myself with "this"
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>>334766865
FFXV-kun is a special kind of autist.
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>>334766289
You mean one samefag desperately shitposting while everyone else is wondering who he's trying to fool.
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This game looks like it was made by Yoko Taro and the Access Drakengard 3 team
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>>334766698
>4 generic boy band dudes
>no long-term female party members
>no visible weapons or gear
>no gear, just plain black clothes
>unresponsive combat inputs

everything that's wrong with the game is a "feature"
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>>334766824
The difference is it never showed those problems.
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>>334765925

don't you see how you become ffxv-kun a little bit more every time you do this?

>absurd levels of lore justification and scrutiny of the development decisions in response to every criticism: X

>telling people they're getting 'btfo' all the time: X

>treating every person involved in the argument against your points as one person in order to diminish the perceived support for their argument: X

it's just getting worse. the autism is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it.
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>>334766494
Why did they need to waste time and money rebooting it? Why couldn't they continue working on Versus XIII as it was?
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>>334766010
Not Battlecats it's growing
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>>334758081
Why does FF have cars now?
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>>334766401
>>334766876

They prepared this footage months ago so they wouldn't have to waste their time during the optimization stage.

You aussie kids are fucking stupid.
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>>334766420
I just want JRPGs to be great again

I'll keep deluding myself until it releases and everyone takes a giant shit on the game.
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>>334766401
Because they recorded that footage long before the Uncovered event happened and clearly marked it as prebeta footage and state that it is an early unfinished build, like why is this hard to grasp? They are literally showing early unfinished stuff to people who want a behind the scenes look at the development of the game
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>>334767019
>now
Please leave
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>>334766731

>modern and urban is good
>I want FF to look like Shenmue or Yakuza games

XV drones everyone
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>>334766637
>Pre-Release Coping Mechanisms
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>>334767019
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>>334767019
"Fantasy based on reality" is basically the setting.
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>>334766950

Minus the shit that actually makes his games good.
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>>334766876
>but that Platinum demo what the fuck were they thinking.
They thought having a small team make a demo in 2 months was a good idea. They probably did that to get it ready for Uncovered, but they should've taken a few more weeks to make sure it didn't shit itself when there were tons of particle effects onscreen.
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>>334767113
>Pre-Beta Gameplay
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>>334766420

I'm glad I'm not as miserable as you.
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>>334766850
Which build is the Uncovered Trailer ?
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>>334767024
JRPGs cannot be great again. The tech and budgets won't allow it.
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>>334766656
>>334766760
No shit dickfucks you you even know anything about game development, let alone AAA massive open world game development? FF7 was in development for 3 years, Pokemon RedGreen was in development for 6, FF12 for 5 years
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>>334767020
>It's gonna end up looking so much better!

This is what I like about you FFXIV guys. You're full of hope
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>>334758081
>And square is betting the entire franchise on this title.

Say goodbye to Final Fantasy...
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ITT: People who think Pre-Beta means anything other than some areas havent been finished yet and major bug fixing before launch

It doesnt mean OVERHAUL GAME WHERE SHADOWS DONT POP IN AT 3 FT DISTANCE AND DRAW DISTANCE IS INCREASED 50 FEET WITH a 20FPS BOOST
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>>334758081

>Jesus Christ

>An alpha/pre-beta game has graphical inconsistencies

I don't even think it's going to be good but OP is a faggot.
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>>334767080
>I want FF games to have the same setting every time
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>>334766876

you mean the demo everyone loves?
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>>334767283
Yeah ok. No one gives a fuck. We all know how hard it is and how long it takes. Nobody fucking cares but you.
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>>334767024
It's always the same tropes, it just got old and they won't change. JRPGs will never be great again.
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>>334767236
>Use common sense = Miserable

What world are you living in bro?
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>>334767360
>PSN rankings
Look i like the Platinum demo, but it has a lot of dumb shit and PSN rankings are the most useless shit ever
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>>334767298

And you shitposters are so fucking retarded you can even mention the right game.
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>>334766952
None of them are boyband or generic
Why does it need longterm females? Females already join them and are big parts of the story too
All of them have weapons like literally all weapon on Noctis, everyone else has weapons too and they all have gear like shields


Combat is actually responsive if you bothered to play it and try weapons like the Heroes Shield, Cross Shuriken and Airstep Sword while doing the weapon swiches, aerial combos, perfect blocks and more.
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>>334767354
>sci-fi and fantasy worlds are all the same.
>only urban modern worlds can have variety!!

XV drones everyone
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>>334767236

no one's miserable, the people saying 'negative' things about the game are just advising caution. if you have a childlike excitement for the game, that only works if you also have a childlike tolerance or lack of discernment when the finished product comes out and betrays your imagination.
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>>334758081
So when the final game releases and it looks worse than that what will be the reaction from FFaggots?

Will they apologize or commit sodoku?
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>>334767442


cool deflection bro
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>>334767020
Say what? If anything they HAVE to make this game look the best it can to even have a chance of reaching their 10 million goal.
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>>334767451
Sorry it's just I'm so used to companies doing things in sequential order and not shoving shitty MMOs in there
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>>334767536
They will disappear because FF will die
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>>334767080
How is anything you said a bad thing? FF7 and FF8 are both urban fantasy settings too, so are games like TWEWY, some SMT, Persona, Pokemon seriouly what the fuck? How new to FF are you? Why are you STILL samefagging XV threads? https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/1f_Z0CmUVL8pMxz6zZ7z9w/
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>>334767080
What's wrong with urban fantasy?
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When are we getting the movie?
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>>334767551
Do you seriously think the Platinum demo was perfect?
Not even the hardest FFXV shills can say that
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>>334766494
>back in 2010 is when the PS3 version actually started as a game and only be around 20 devs in their spare time, it was put on hold in late 2010 then didn't start up again until mid 2012

Why do people expect anything good from Square again? They clearly couldn't give less of a fuck and just pour everything into the hype and marketing, and appealing to the lowest denominator.
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>>334767509
>>only urban modern worlds can have variety!!

that is in no way implied by what he said you moron. what is implied is that an urban setting would increase variety in a genre typified by fantasy settings.
>>
Will you faggots ever find a new game to shitpost?
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>>334767564
>Sorry it's just I'm so used to shitposting my eyes are so brown I cannot see what I'm shitting on anymore.
>>
>tfw /v/ wants FFXV to bomb
Time for me to leave this shithole.
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>>334766950
You are fucking delusional.
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>>334767360
Star Wars Battlefront and The Division have high ratings too. Whats your point
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>>334767694
These are Square Enix fans we're talking about

These are people who DEFENDED Final Fantasy XIII

They live in a different world to us. Probably just a severe case of the 'tism.
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>>334767283
And FF15 took 5 years and still looks like shit. Great game, just what I'd expect from modern Square.
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>>334766992
>Why couldn't they continue working on Versus XIII as it was?
It was supposed to have sequels originally so they probably thought there was no point if it was taking them this long to get Versus XIII out.
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>>334767523

No one has a childlike excitement either, this thread is just straight up shitposting, and you're being a condescending douche.
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>>334767728
>Thinking /v/ actually likes video games

You must be new here...
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>>334767728
>2011+5
>expecting anything great from Square Enix ever again

wew lad
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>>334767019
You mean why did it 20 years ago
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>>334767694

When did I say it was perfect?

Stop moving the goalposts.

>>334767808

Why are you even in this thread? To shitpost?
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>>334767728
I dont want the game to bomb I want the game to not suck ass and have 50 problems at launch
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>>334766927
this
>>
I'm going to buy this game and play it on my PS4.5

I hope you tards shitpost daily about it.
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>>334766420
There is no input lag, and the combat is still better than any other FF, those other two things are results of us seeing nothing but unfinished and unoptimized footage, for fucks sakes are you new to video games?
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>>334767719
I'm not really shitposting though I just know too much about game development and its realities. The game isn't going to look any better at release. If anything it will probably end up looking worse after they drop various settings to keep Xbone in line with PS4.
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>>334767728
I want it to bomb just because the meltdown on /v/ will be hilarious. The game looks like ass anyway so I'm not missing out on much.
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>>334767945
Why are you in this thread?
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>>334767830

>No one has a childlike excitement eithe

some people definitely do.

i'm personally excited for ffxv but i also have more limited expectations than a lot of people on here seem to. particular in regard to the openness/scale of the game. if i'm surprised that would be amazing.

how am i being condescending?
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>>334767241

This. Jap AAA gaming has been dying for a decade, they just don't have the ability to compete with western bureaucratic corporate bloat anymore. Sales are steadily dropping in comparison to handheld titles and the corporations don't want to risk money on failures after so many.


FFVIII was my favorite, and I'm getting similar art direction/world vibes from XV, but its being as good as a golden age FF is unlikely.
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>>334767703
Once they announce FF16, we will.
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>>334766880
See>>334766850
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>>334768016
>jealous PCuck
Fuck off.
>>
Isn't shitposting flamewar bait threads against the rules?

Especially re-occuring ones?
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>>334766401
Most likely the PC build they're talking about releasing way further down the line, which is dumb considering they should just do a simultaneous release. Really they're trying to do damage control for the console versions, then claim they put extra work into the PC version by releasing it later. It's kinda genius and it tricks the console players. I wish the console crowd didn't let this sort of thing happen to them though.
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>>334767597
A shitposter can dream. Keep believing that, anon-kun.
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>>334767957
>actually gonna buy a PS4.5

b8 or retard
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>>334767813
Looks better than any other game on its scale
>>
All their graphical dongles and bells might actually play correctly on a PC, as unoptimized and badly written as they may be

I imagine it'll just be a hilarious 5 FPS shitshow on a console, though. What a shame Sqeenix is desperately trying to keep Sony afloat and phoning in an utter piece of shit every time they port a Final Fantasy (jesus just look at FF9 what the fuck is going on there? at least it's not QUITE as bad as FF4/6 when they managed to make 25 year old games look WORSE than the originals)
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>>334767971
>There is no input lag

Absolute fucking bullshit and you know it. Have you played the demo
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>>334768072
see pic related
TOTALLY IMPROVED LOD GUYS
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>>334767971
>There is no input lag,

Quit being such a fucking liar you pants-on-fire fucking liar.
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>>334768118
Oh look he was outed for the shitposting cunt that he was and now must resort to shill spouting tactics.
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>>334768025

To try and discuss XV. Deflect shitposters.
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>>334768016
>I want another TORtanic just for the lulz
TORtanic was the best and worst thing to happen here, now every game has to fail just because everyone wants it to happen again. It won't.
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>>334767971
>There is no input lag
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>>334763748
this looks like a homoerotic Desert Bus with some scattered roadstops for murdering dinosaurs and livestock
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>>334768268
>wah wah stop bullying my game

Cry more XV shill.
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You took a screencap of a section of the map with nothing going on from an pre alpha DEMO build.

Am I supposed to be angry or something?
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>>334767497
>None of them are boyband or generic

kek, delusional.

>Why does it need longterm females?

cause variety is good? cause it creates better party-interaction, romance, humor, etc? cause we don't wanna look at a sausage fest the whole time?
If the 4 main guys had some variety maybe it would be okay, but as it is...it's bland as fuck.

>All of them have weapons like literally all weapon on Noctis

again it's a variety issue. if Noctis was the only weaponless summoner it would be okay. but his whole crew is identical to him, it's fucken bland. they look the same, they fight the same, blah. Gear adds some personality to characters, makes them different.

>Combat is actually responsive if you bothered to play it

I never played it. I'm going off what reviewers and testers have said. GI tested it this month, the most recent version, beyond the "starter area" they were given monsters generated by the game engine to push it. And they said its "okay" but were hopeful it would "improve" before it was released...wtf
it's been 10 years
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>>334767945
To try and bring you morons back to reality.

Can you honestly say this out loud without laughing "Final Fantasy XV is looking good"

No one on planet Earth would be willing to say that at the moment. They have 5 months to pull it together and they'd probably need their team working 12 hours a day at this point to make an acceptable product.
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>>334768190
I have and there isn't at all, adult Noctis doesn't have it at all, kid noctis part is not even part of the actual game and was done just for the demo so is irrelevant.
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>>334768295
In a thread that started with shitposting?
Good luck
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>>334768095
Mods are sitting in their lazy boy, yucking it up. This is physically exhasting
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>>334767497
>None of them are boyband or generic

that's one of the biggest complaints about XV; maybe you just don't see it, or you like boybands
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>>334767852
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>>334768361
see
>>334764963

looks fine to me
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>>334768262
You can see shadows rendered with LOD further in the distance so I'm not sure what you are trying to say here, do you even know what LOD shadows are?
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>>334768262
Take me down to the aliasing city where the jaggies are real and the LOD is shitty

Oh won't Square please go home, yeah yeah
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>FF15 releases on console
>Suffers from awful draw distances and fps
>Story turns out to be pretty bland and people watch videos of it on youtube and see spoilers in Webms

>Game comes out on PC
>Everyone has already seen vids or played the game on console
>Sells like shit on PC
DURR WE NOT GONNA MAKE PC GAMES ANYMORE CAUSE IT DIDNT SELL WELL ENOUGH
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I still don't understand the whole car mechanic. Like do they talk to each other while driving? Can you control the car or are those scripted events?
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>>334768265
Play the demo, actually try the shield, shurike, aerial combat, there is none.
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you guys complain like final fantasy has ever been good to begin with.
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>>334758081
ITS JUST A BETA
MODS WILL FIX IT
CONSOLE KEEP DRAGGING US DOWN
HELP
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>>334764963
You haven't even been alive 30 years
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>>334768575
Yes
Yes
Sometimes
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>>334768168
HAHAHA are you actually triggered by me buying a game console?

You're a faggot dude, literally nothing else to it.
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>>334760325
It already is 900p.
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>>334768190
>>334768265
>>334768319

not him but the only input lag is with young noct

old noct is perfectly fine
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>>334768262
That's higher LOD and shadow than any other PS4 game has
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>>334768575
>Like do they talk to each other while driving?
Yeah.
>Can you control the car or are those scripted events?
You can drive it or let it drive itself.
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>86 posters
>331 replies
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>>334768370
You must be the same age as kid noctis because no one over 18 could be this fucking daft

>>334768591
Or try jumping, when i can move my thumb all the way across the controller after pressing the button because the lag is that fucking ridiculous.

>>334768452
>MMO
kek
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>>334768649
But in the OP picture it looks completely different from the part where you are the car in the platinum demo.
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>>334768319
Good job proving you never played it.
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I'm just not excited about the game. I don't want it to fail, I simply have absolutely no trust or faith in SE. I'm not even all that broken up about the game not being turn based, KH gameplay with a more realistic aesthetic sounds neat. But they killed it with the boyband roadtrick deal, and it sounds like the gameplay is mediocre to boot.

I'm not shitposting, a difference of opinion is not shitposting. Not bitter about this either, there are (and honestly, there always have been) better JRPGs to play than FF. I'm just being realistic. The game being bad isn't going to hurt me as much as it's going to hurt you, and if we get a hail mary and the game is good I'll get to be pleasantly surprised.
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>>334768760
>>86 posters
>80% are complaining

heh, typical.
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>>334766850
When's the next ATR? We'll have the most up-to-date footage then right? Not this shitty GI stuff?
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Don't you guys ever get tired of this?
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>>334768658
>HAHAHA

You must be 18 or older to post here.
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>>334768701
Yeah okay you can stop now, the game looks great but you don't have to go too far
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>>334768785
Platinum Demo driving will not be present in the main game, neither will Young Noct. Carbuncle will, though
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>>334768420

I guess they don't care because it isn't a Nintendo game.

this place is such a shithole
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>>334768361
If you take even 5 minutes to leave your special snowflake shitposting precious /v/, you will literally tons of people all voicing their excitement and anticipation for this game.

>inb4 HURR delusional XV shill

There's just no winning with you miserable fucks.
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>>334768771
MMO!
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This is what happens when 75% of your rendering budget is in the character models.
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>>334768334
Yep there it is, the "le shill XD" tactic once he is backed into a corner.
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>>334768591
>actually try the shield, shurike
Oh look, it's this old meme again.

>>334768692
There is a little with old Noctis, but holy shit kid Noctis is jank as FUCK.
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>>334768871
21st April
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>>334768887

It's the school holidays in Australia. Shitposting is an Olympic sport.
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>>334768914
>Platinum Demo driving
Then why the fuck was it there? I thought it was a techo demo and was supposed to show you the capability of the engine which included vehicular movement.
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>>334768887
I want to prick those eyebags with a needle. Maybe they'll pop.
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>>334768342
>kek, delusional.
Show me proof that they are a boyband.

>cause variety is good?
And females join the party, and so do other party members throughout the whole game, and at its core this is still la game about brotherhood

>ause it creates better party-interaction, romance, humor, etc?
The game starts with Noctis going to his wedding with his girlfriend, and there are females who join, all those things still happen.

>we
Actual well adjusted adults aren't sexually insecure that they feel triggered by having a male party

The entire crew are using those powers only because Noctis can, they all look different, fight different, sound different, act different, have different weapons and gear.

>I never played it.
And with that you are invalidated of everything.
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>>334768871
21st.
>We'll have the most up-to-date footage then right?
Hopefully.
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>>334768760
FF fans and shitposters alike are equally eloquent. if you aren't here to defend the game or to shitpost, get the fuck out.
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>>334768926

it's a shame they put so much effort into a grinding game for chinese gold-farmers and not an actual RPG.
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>>334768890
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>Pre beta
>IT'S SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

People who don't know game development need to leave.
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>>334769067
I'm excited for the game, but i'm here to shitpost to see the defense force get mad
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>>334768452
ARR drones lol

XIV is shit, Yoshi is a hack.
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>>334768925
I'm not miserable at all I just value what I play and I always make good choices.

I think most people with an IQ over 80 and look at this and say it's not going to be fun
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>>334768361
Uh what? Again the pic in OP is an old and early unfinished build pre-beta from 2015, it is not the fucking final game, it literally says that in the article, what the fuck is wrong with you? We've actually seen what the game looks like at the uncovered event and it was multitudes better than this prebeta footage

>. They have 5 months to pull it together
And? The footage in OP is literally from last year, it is not from a recent built, it is from an early unfinished build, again we already saw the game at Uncovered and it looked multiudes better
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>>334769031
Nah. The real thing was showing off the magic, and the new combat system, and the new weapons. Yeah it's kinda just there.
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>>334769208
Death!
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>>334769207
Wow dude you're such a badass.
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>>334768448
I don't think you know what a boyband is because they don't look or act like one, they are like a yankii/yakuza/delinquent gang
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>>334769374
You too, posting here like a badass on this image board
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>>334767728
As a long time Final Fantasy fan who has played all main entries (excluding MMOs) and tons of spin-offs and bought all of them at full price some even a couple of times, I have absolutely no interest in this abomination whatsoever. I want this to fail so hard so that Square never again tries to make garbage 10 year in development open-world shit with cars. I don't care about this action hack n slash type of gameplay where the pinnacle of strategy revolves around hitting an enemy then dodge/jump away so that he can't hit you. Also not a fan of this realistic looking world and boring, homogenous, yaoi-bait cast. All the tie-ins, movies, and other garbage just add even more fuel to the fire.
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Hype for the game, but I have no idea what they were thinking releasing the Platinum Demo.
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>>334769317
Dumb weebshitter poster
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>>334769057
>Show me proof that they are a boyband.

see >>334768448


>at its core this is still la game about a boyband on a roadtrip

ya, that's what we don't like. the core is the problem. the core GROUP is the problem.

>The game starts with Noctis going to his wedding

irrelevant unless females join the party long term. There should be an option to replace the 4 backstreet boys, they really are unbearbale to us real FF fans

>And with that you are invalidated of everything.

no one has played the actual release, so everything you said is invalidated too.
game testers are reporting similar shit, so it's safe to assume the combat system isn't great, unless they improve it before the release.
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>>334768771
So you never played it, I don't know why you are lying because there is no input lag on adult Noctis.
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>it's the same thread we had 3 times a day for weeks now
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>>334769267
That's wrong though and you know it.
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>>334769447

>this pasta and picture again

You secretly want to suck Noctis' dick don't you?
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>>334769503
You're welcome.
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>>334769396

japanese hosts and boybands look like "yankii/yakuza/delinquent gang"

and the guys you posted don't look as gay as the XV crew
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>>334769532
>no input lag

There he goes again
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All of you faggots are still going to buy it regardless.
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>>334769267

stop being a condescending jackass when you're nothing more than a shitposter
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>>334769447
Fucking this. Thank goodness you typed out all the points, it's take me forever to elegantly point out how much anti-fantasy this is. The gameplay looks like the worst offense; absolutely hack and jump garbage gameplay I'd expect seeing in a mecha or dmc-like game.
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Jesus christ, FFXV have to be the fastest growing threads on /v/
They reach 500 posts in like an record times
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>>334769657

>leaving out the bit about adult Noct

good one
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>>334769008
I love how you all dismiss this as shitposting when facts about the reality of game development are being given yet you're all deluded enough to think a genie will appear and magically turn this awful thing into something worthwhile. The same was said of FFXIII and nothing came of it. If anything that game was a lot worse than everyone anticipated.

What's going to be different this time? At the end of the day people make games and people can only work so long. You cannot fix this in 5 months even if you had staff working overtime. It's not possible.
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>>334768949
Oh look it's the meme that it's somehow a meme to tell people to actually play the fucking game.

Old Noctis is responsive especially with shield, shuriken and airstep, the broadsword is purposely slow because it all weapons in XV are weighted and have their own swing speed which, broadswords are supposed to be slow because they have higher damage payoff, shuriken and airstep both quick and agile weapons and shield even quicker with blocks giving good responsive feedback
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>>334769619
>"yankii/yakuza/delinquent gang"
bruh
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>>334769657
NO ANON ITS YOUR TV OR YOUR CONTROLLER OR YOUR PS4
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>>334769778
>leaving out the bit about kid Noct

u 2 :)
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>>334769447
>>334769747

Stop replying to your own pasta dude, holy shit.
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>>334769659

most of us are just waiting for 7R, XV is just a way for programmers to figure out PS4 hardware better.

their real project is 7R
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>>334769781
>5 months
11 months if you're talking about OPs omage.
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>they somehow managed to make even the behemoths look gay
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>>334769583
Game is dying bruv.

The hack can't seem to do anything "new" in terms of end of level gameplay since 2.3.
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>>334769763
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>>334769556
>>334769668
I don't really care at this point. You can call me a shitposter. You can play your game and be disappointed. I tried to save you some money but it looks like it's going to XIII all over again where people attempt to justify their purchase of a bottle of sleeping pills.

Have fun I guess.
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>>334769763
Cloud, Squall, Lightning, and Noctis look like they could come from the same game. Not a problem just looking at it.
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>>334769750
10 years, dude. 10 FUCKING YEARS. It's finally happening, this game deserves every attention.
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>>334769781

>god I hope someone replies
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>>334769447
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/%22As%20a%20long%20time%20Final%20Fantasy%20fan%20who%20has%20played%20all%20main%20entries%20.%22/
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>>334769619
The guys in this picture are wearing clothes designed by Roen
XV cast are wearing clothes designed by Roen, both of them are yanki/yakuza/delinquent inspired
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>>334769763
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>>334769942

I will. Have fun shitposting or whatever it is you spend most of your days doing.
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>>334767757
I follow the works of a man who appears at public speaking events with a giant skull mask on. Can I be any less?
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>>334769447
Wow you posted it again!
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/ZnOATr-3WTpFchd7MHoPkw/

>>334769747
And samefagging too!
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>>334758081

Hope it flops. SE needs to change directions again and is not gonna do so as long as sassy faggots support their new games and policy.
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>>334770071

those guys look like villains.
XV crew look like emo backstreet boys.

fix your vision
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>>334769931
It had a good 2.5 year run.
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>>334769893
Pardon me for being a dumb phone poster.

At least I'm not as upset and retarded as you however.
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>>334769804
Keep on memeing my friend :^)
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>>334765540
I would almost be okay with games looking like Hi-res PS2 games if the PS3/4 could have done some fucking Antialiasing.
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>>334767871
Why is this font different from the final font used in the game?
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>>334769516
That isn't proof of anything, show me actual proof that they are a real boyband

>ya, that's what we don't like. the core is the problem. the core GROUP is the problem.
That isn't a problem, you just have autism.

>irrelevant unless females join the party long term.
So you have autism, I guess Aeris doesn't count as a character in FF7 because shes dead by disc 1

You were already invalided, stop posting already.
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>>334770071
they look like a fuckin boy band
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>>334770228
I knew it was themepark garbage from the start. I quit in 2.3, having since played from 1.16.

Fuck Yoshi, he's the worst hack I've seen in a while.

Please look forward to it.
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>>334769657
Adult Noctis you fucking idiot, adult Noctis doesn't have that.

Kid Noctis has it but that is not even part of the actual game.
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>inb4 a new shitposting thread is made the the 5th time in 3-4 hours and jans/mods completely ignore it for free
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>>334769763
Never played FF II, but they went kinda overboard in terms of design with that protagonist and Tidus. Vaan is on the limit of "acceptable" and the rest look alright.
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>>334770331

and they'd beat the shit out of you
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>>334770415
And yet you come to post in it.

Probably, again.
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>>334769763
XV has the best design, most normal clothes and respectable too.

Noctis>Warrior of Light> Cloud> Terra>Firion> Squall>Cecil>Zidane>Onion Knight>Tidus>Lightning
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Im still pretty hype to be honest
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>>334770379
>Tanaka will never make another Final Fantasy game
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>>334770217
Anon, the change in direction will be mobile
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>>334770289
>show me actual proof that video game characters are a real boy band
???
they look like a boyband

>That isn't a problem

90% of the complaints in these threads are about the main group of 4, how they appear, dress, and lack variety...so ya, it's a problem

> I guess Aeris doesn't count as a character in FF7

Aeris dies early, luckily we had a long-term female cast to make up for her death.
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>>334770509

So you're basically you're saying only shitposters allowed? And you're admitting to being a shitposter?
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>>334770556
I'll be making this the default costume
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>>334770379
I just quit as well. As it stands now, there isn't a single MMO on the market worth paying for. Not one.

FFXIV has all the trappings of a game with no sharp edges. It took no chances after the 4.0 catastrophe.

Worst of all? Support classes are out, and Red Mage still isn't in this fuckin' game. Bard has a bow now? Stop this train I want to get off.
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>>334770460

>5'4
>110lb asians
>beating up anything, ever

kek
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>>334769763

look at the designs... literally every FF has better art than XV
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>>334769927
No they didn't, it literally looks identical to how it looked in FF7
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>>334770560
I am too. If more XV threads get as bad as the last few have been I'm just gonna start shitposting as much as possible. This is fucking dreadful.
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>>334769942
Man you are autistic.
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>>334770731

oh right you could probably just sit on them

while the others stab you
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>>334762821
>why are most sonybros so chill?
nigger what bizzarro world do you live in?
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>>334770753
>literally every FF has better art than XV
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>>334769828
The chicks are kind of cute
>>
So has any actual discussion been had in these 500+ replies?

>Why am I even asking.
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>>334770331
No they look like a delinquent/yankii/yakuza gang becaus they are one, in clothes by Roen who also designed the clothes for Crows Zero, a film about delinquents/yankii/yakuza
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>>334770560

>still

Are you saying this "pre-beta" shitposting always swayed you?
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>>334770420
what an insufferable little cunt he is
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>>334763527
>>334763748
haha holy shit mang.
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>>334769447
>garbage 10 year in development open-world shit with cars.
You've not played every Final Fantasy.

Final Fantasy 1 had mechs.
Final Fantasy IV end game was in space.
Final Fantasy VII had cars and bikes and modern shit
Final Fantasy VIII had cars.
Most Final Fantasy are open world.

Do I need to fucking continue?
Fucking fag you've not played every Final Fantasy Fully.
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>>334769763

how did they go from cool knights and extravagant females, to Noctis shopping at American Apparel
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>>334770420
That all sounds good, how is anything he said a bad thing? Tons of games do that by starting in modern normal area then going full fantasy, FF Tactics Advance does it, TWEWY does it by introducing normal Tokyo setting then slowly introducing the fantasy elements, so does games like Persona, Pokemon and some SMT too, FF7 did it also. That's like one of the most common things for urban fantasy settings.
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>>334770964

lol zero for the last 4 threads that were all shitposting at the speed of light
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>>334770964
Nope.
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>>334770824
The shitposting has been so intense, I dont even care

The platinum demo looked amazing on my 55 inch flat screen, im fine with that. I see it cherry picked on here constantly though. Ah well
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>>334771062
Well Noct wasn't the first to tone down the over the top designs. That was Cloud onward
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>>334771060

>replying to stale pasta
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>>334770862
>Implying he can't sit on them all
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>>334770071
Jesus christ... save me allah
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>>334770639
>they look like a boyband
They don't and so you have no proof.

>90% of the complaints in these threads are about the main group of 4, how they appear, dress, and lack variety...so ya, it's a pro
You mean autistic idiots such as yourself who do nothing but kick and screan and samefag your ass off, act like you aren't like SJW yet then demand shit to change to your whim just like SJWs do?

>Aeris dies early
And so she doesn't count as a character by your logic
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Versus XIII > XV
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>>334770973
Nah. They look like a boy band.

That tough guy motif has been around for ages. The Backstreet boys were walking around like pseudo-gangsters on stage in the 90's. How old are you?

And a white belt? For fuckin' real? That's basically the universal symbol of a man who takes cock.
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>>334770731
Ok buddy if this is 5'4 to you then you must be autistic.
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>>334770071
They actually look pretty cool

am i in the wrong?
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>>334771140

this level of shitposting happened the last time they showed pre-beta shit.


this place is just full of kneejerk reactionary retards

wait until they tucker out from sperging and it'll cease eventually

also as someone mentioned earlier, it's school holidays in australia so that's why the cancer has tripled
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>>334771060
>Final Fantasy VII had cars and bikes and modern shit

ya but they looked cool as fuck, not like your dads family sedan.

Cloud's bike was crazy and unrealistic.

being urban and modern is fine if you actualize "stylize" the world and make it seem different than ours, something interesting. XV characters look dull, dress dull, and drive a dull car
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>>334770862
>Implying Fat Amerilard wouldn't flatten them
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>>334770753
No they actually don't, XV has better art than any other FF.
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>>334771338
>b-b-but FFVII is f-fine because i-it was my first one and it was m-my favourite!
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>>334771385
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>>334771062
>Noctis shopping at American Apparel
>Expensive designer clothes is somehow american apparel

And nigger Noctis's regular outfit is literally a military coat, military crops, military combat boots, military armguard and an undershirt, his alternate outfits are both suits.
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>>334771338
Cloud's bike was a fucking Harley Davidson
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>>334771338

>if you actualize "stylize" the world and make it seem different than ours

come on now, anon. do i really have to post pics for you to back down on this shit. from turbovenice to mechanical soldiers to fucking ramuh this game clearly has stylisation
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>>334769583
>played xiv
>it was as dumbed down and bare bones as it could be
>people actually praised this shit eater
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Daily reminder for a deluded "long time FF fan":

>>334764508
>>334770824
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>>334771179

Cloud looked crazy in his own way, giant sword, totally unnatural goku hair, wearing dirty soldier gear...He didn't look plain or dull like Noctis. You'll never see a Cloud walking around in real life

I see 100 guys like Noctis at high schools. twinky, wear all black, hiding their eyes under their emo hair. etc
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>>334770908

While i admit you got me there and i concede it. That's shit. I was referring only to main games. I don't consider any sequel or prequel a FF.
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>>334771309
No they don't

The one in white belt literally goes around hitting on women and chatting them up constantly, nice projection there faggot., none of those peopel look anything like anyone in XV
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>>334771537
>I see 100 guys like Noctis

I've never seen anyone with that hair.
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>>334761387
>that hidden text

salt/10, would sodium again
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>>334771537
Compared to the other protagonists, he looks tame, as does every other protag from him to Tidus
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>>334771308
Phantom Pain>MGSV

that's basically what you just said.
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Jesus Christ FFXV fags got BTFO in this thread
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>>334771668
And it's true
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>>334771338
>not like your dads family sedan.
You mean expensive fucking Cadillac that is based on a 1 off concept car?

>Cloud's bike was crazy and unrealistic.
It was just a fucking Harley with some bolts on it.

>being urban and modern is fine if you actualize "stylize" the world and make it seem different than ours,
Yeah and XV is modern sleek, with a car they modify into an airship
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>>334771732
>>
You're all niggers

Every one of you

Niggers niggers niggers niggers niggers
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>>334770973
In that case, they're a boy band dressed up to look like "yakuza". That's actually typical boy band shit, trying to posture as designer "tough guys"/streetwise bad boys but ending up laughably unintimidating because of how fake it obviously is.
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>>334771809
yes?
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>>334771820
>thinking they look like your pic related

o k lol
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>>334771732
YeH dude an undeveloped engine build that you never played was better.
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>>334771212

>demand a change like SJW

I don't demand a change, I'm saying what I don't like about XV and most ppl agree...I didn't create the "boy band" meme, it's here because of how the main guys look and dress...

>And so she doesn't count as a character by your logic

I never said who "counts" as a character or not. That's a different argument altogether.
I said FF7 actually had long-term female characters, despite Aeiris being temporary. XV doesn't have long-term females.
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>>334771537
>Cloud looked crazy in his own way, giant sword, totally unnatural goku hair, wearing dirty soldier gear.
No he looked like a fuccboi and he literally cross dressed like the faggot he was

Noctis looks like a young adult and dresses in a modern style in both street clothes and expensive designer suits.

Noctis is also a wisecracking smartass who acts like he's top shit while Cloud is an edgy faggot who likes to cross dress and get in bathtubs with men
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>>334759993
>>334761556
For me the problem is not that they are all guys, but that Gladious gives off a pretty gay "bear" vibe
Like holy shit, wear a shirt.
It's Vaan all over again
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>>334771819
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>>334771819
/v/ is a nigger
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>Ebin win XDD
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>>334770071
>designed by Roen
.
Why they just couldn't get Yohji Yamamoto? It could have appeal to both western and jap audience
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>literally everyone responding to each others bait
Pretty much what i expected from another FFXV thread
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>>334771712
Where? All I see is people shitposting, getting wrecked with facts, them shitposting more, then you making a one off post like this towards the end of the thread to try and act like shitposters somehow "won", "won" what? The daily autism award?
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Holy fuck this game looks like shit in every way
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>>334772021
This desu
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>>334771820
So, you admit that the 'tough guy' aesthetic is something thats been around for a while..
Then you claim its the sole property of a poor offshoot of the style, and all subsequent properties are ripping off this offshoot..
Are you legit stupid?
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>>334771958
>but that Gladious gives off a pretty gay "bear" vibe

I think you secretly like that.
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>>334767650
The part that's
>urban
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>>334770973

And it's shit. I mean, fantasy game people. Why would anyone think it's a good idea to reference this close to every day reality?

Not only the wardrobe is rubbish but come on, road trip game? come on...

While we can all agree it's better that this became it's own thing instead of XIII-VS, this looked far more epic back in 2008.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6At_bb1PNU

I think i'll even take the zipper and belts over this designs.
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new thread soon lads? the ride never ends.
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>>334772046
>Person posts facts about the graphics, gameplay and how it's not humanly possible to fix this within the time they have left
>IT'S BBBBBBBAAAAAAAAITTTTTTTT AND SHITPOSSSTTTINNNGGG

This board is really beginning to bore me. You cannot argue with Final Fantasy fans. They don't live in our world.
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>>334771820
They look like yankii/yakuza/delinquent, are from a city based on Tokyo, have clothes literally designed by the same people who did it for Crows Zero which is about yankii/yakuza/delinquent, their organization structure is structured like the Yakuza, seriously your ebin boyband pictures look nothing like the XV cast

Gladio even has the same identical haircut as Takuya Genji in the center here>>334770071
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>>334771309
>>334771820

You do realize yakuza in Japan are not intimidating either?
They're skinny manlets with small hands and ridiculous hair, and they don't even carry guns.
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>>334759221
Man i dont know about you but I do that shit all the time.
>Oh sh-shit am I gonna run into this guy? Oh, no, he- shit maybe- fuck
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>>334772091
There is atleast a 99% chance you've already posted here once.
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>>334772226
>and how it's not humanly possible to fix this within the time they have left


>get told this is incorrect
>continue to shitpost more
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>>334771760
>You mean expensive fucking Cadillac that is based on a 1 off concept car?

and the design isn't good looking, much less "fantastic" or "sci fi" or interesting, looks lame. Like a normal family sedan.
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After 10 years of wait threads like these almost make me hate FFXV
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>>334772147
No. i hate it
It's too distracting
And even if I was gay, I would want him to look more "cool" not sexualy appealing as a bara
Like, he looks like a fucking pretty boy, oddly enough moreso than Prompto
And I hate his tribal tattoos
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>>334772243
Go get your ass kicked in 10 different ways by some yanked out Yakuza thug and come back and post about it so we can all laugh.
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>>334772347
>It's too distracting

stop jerking off over it then
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>>334764642
sauce
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>>334771954
>Noctis looks like a young adult and dresses in a modern style in both street clothes and expensive designer suits.

he wears all black, normal clothes like we do, no style, and his crew does the same. BORING
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>>334772203
It's an urban fantasy you fucking idiot, urban fantasy setting mixed with a medieval fantasy setting.

>Why would anyone think it's a good idea to reference this close to every day reality?
Because they are from a modern city based on Tokyo and it's part of the fantasy based on reality theme, the entire point is that you have a modern city of people in modern clothes who use crystal magic and spells, and they are fighting against a medieval kingdom who wear robes, knights armor, dragoon armor and who use magitek as their military force.

> this looked far more epic back in 2008.
It's the same exact fucking thing as that, a road trip taking place during a war between two kingdoms
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Hahah, 10 years!
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>>334772282
Where was this told to be incorrect?
You cannot fix this in a few months. There is no way.
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>>334766117
you the kind of person that bitches and moans all the time?
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>>334772141
The fake "tough guy aesthetic" we're talking about has literally been boy band copyright since the late 1980s. That's the point. And that is why when people see FFXV's cast so many of them immediately think "boy band". Get it through your autistic skull.
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>>334772323
It's not supposed to look fantasy or scifi, it's a normal car from an urban city, the setting is not fucking scifi.

You clearly have no seen a sedan before, it is literally the Cadillac Ciel, and they even modded it to fly as an airship
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>>334772494
>the point is to be modern, have modern cities, modern people, modern clothes

but no one wants this, specially not FF fans
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>>334772575

Fix what?

Graphics from a pre-beta over 10 months ago that is already fixed?
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>>334772656

lol fuck off you self-important twat
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>>334772656

people want a mix. it worked in ffviii, it worked in ffvii, it can work for this
>>
Please tell me no one here takes any of this shitposting seriously.
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>>334772630

>boy band
>normal plain clothes, no style or design, literally from Walmart
>driving a luxury sedan
>no girls allowed
>"Final Fantasy"
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>>334772656
Speak for yourself. I think it's an interesting idea, to have a setting that is basically the same as any other Final Fantasy, only it had enough time to advance to modern standards, with the fantasy monsters and stuff still there because it always existed.
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>>334771820
>they're a boy band dressed up to look like "yakuza"
I remember when they gave a gangster vibe, not this boyband shit
But I'm not complaining, we have that DLC confirmed for everyone getting more formal clothe at least
I hope they also include the Versus 13 clothe that aren't over the top
It's odd, that the characters designed by Nomura in Versus 13 are less erratic than what we're getting in 15 by a professional designer
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>>334772456
His clothes all have Roen style to them, he's wearing a military coat, military crops, military combat boots, military arm guard and an undershirt, and he also wearing expensive designer suits

> and his crew does the same.
The fuck you on about?

Gladio wearing a coat, slacks, shoes

Ignis wearing blazer, button shirt with print, jeans, driving gloves, snakeskin shoes

Prompto wearing biker vest with patches, flannel undervest, printed singlet, bandanna on arm, shooting gloves, slender brown print pants, boots with white cuff

Cor wearing military jacket, business pants, undershirt, boots, general beret

Regis wearing suit, Noctis also wears suits, they are from a modern kingdom and are dressed like that because of that, to CONTRAST with Niflehim who are all in medieval fantasy armor, robes and knight armor while also using Magitek as their military force instead of Magic and swords like Lucis uses
>>
Why didn't they just make Final Fantasy VII-2? It has the same style as Advent Children, just make it a sequel to Advent Children. Instead they turned the remake into an episodic hack and slash. Wasted opportunity.
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>>334772808
>>no girls allowed

just wait for 7R, it'll have girls
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>>334772656
Yes they do, just like they did in FF7.
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>>334772975
>every other character looks okay
>you can only long-term main 4 faggots in a boy band, wearing all black, all the time

it's like Square is teasing the fans and shitting on us.
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>>334772662
Show me
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>>334772808
They aren't but nice meem
They are in expensive clothes by Roen, Noctis's undershirt alone cost over $150

>driving a luxury sedan
You clearly don't know what a sedan is if a Cadillac is a sedan to you

>>no girls allowed
But girls do join the party

Also FF1 had no females in the party, neither did FF3 on NES

So you are retarded and ignoring how XV is a story about the crystals and kingdoms at war over it, with one empire with magitek mechs knights and dragoons as their military forces fighting against the other who uses crystals magic and sorcery with modern society like 7, in a world that is medieval fantasy mixed with urban fantasy with those magitek, with the monsters and summons using the classic Amano and Nomura designs, with there being a world map to travel across with different vehicles from boats, trains, chocobo, car and airship like in classic FF, with the story also about a plague slowly killing the world and descending it to a perpetual night like FF1 plague
>>
>>334773183
>>334764963
>>
Any way, so now it's been proven beyond reasonable doubt that FFXV will be a disaster how long does Square Enix have left until the company shuts down?
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>>334772934
>I remember when they gave a gangster vibe, not this boyband shit
It's the same exact fucking shit, only even more realised now than it was before, before he was wearing a trash bag, now he's wearing militeray coat, miliary crops, military boots, military arm guard and an undershirt

>we're getting in 15 by a professional designer
THE FUCKING CLOTHES DESIGNS NOW HAVE BEEN SET SINCE 2011 WHEN IT WAS VERSUS YOU CUNT
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>>334773234
>Also FF1 had no females in the party, neither did FF3 on NES
>last time this shit happened was in the 80s

those are downsides, not features.
>>
>>334773272
But that's not an improvement at all. If anything it looks worse. You can't just shove more vegetation and and say that it's fixed
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>>334773439
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>>334773153
None of them are boyband, the MC is getting married to his girlfriend and the others all hit on girls alone the way, they wear black because it's the color of their kingdom and it's to contrast with Niflheim

It's like you are being retarded on purpose.
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>>334772431
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>>334773234
>So you are retarded and ignoring how XV is a story about the crystals and kingdoms at war over it,

but the world loses it's appeal if you hate the MC and his long-term entourage.

It's actually a shame, because the world in some areas looks okay and some of the NPCs and villains are neat too. But who can bear traveling in it as an emo boy-band? yuck
>>
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEW THREAD
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>>334772596
Okay first
>literally
Is no way to win an arguement, it just makes you a hyperbolic shitstain. So does
>we
like youve got others on your side about this autistic arguement about a group of video fame characters, you autist.

And finally, maybe they can get away with it because, you know, they're high ranking members of an actual militarized organization, who uses black as their color of choice and who participate in not only actual war, but whatever other seedy shit the ultragovernment gets up to.

Maybe you should stop obsessing over NSYNC and just accept that wearing all black doesnt make them a boy band, you fashion-less lard.
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>>334773512
>they all wear black and look boring as fuck because that's how the game is designed

I don't like that design. what don't you understand lmao?

>e MC is getting married to his girlfriend

and she's not a long-term character like the boyband group is. so who cares? there's no real variety in this game, what a let down
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>>334773373
So you are in literal denial now.
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>>334773503
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/cLREl1FRZ0Hg3Fhd_Xa4gQ/
k
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>>334773664
>So you are in literal denial now.

No?
I always maintain lacking females is bad, even in the 80s
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>>334773663
>I don't like that design. what don't you understand lmao?
You are autistic, that's all there is to it.

>and she's not a long-term character like the boyband group is.
She's the main heroine of the game you retard.

> there's no real variety in this game, what a let down

Try again
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>>334772808
>no girls allowed
Final Fantasy? More like DeepDarkFantasy
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Who cares, post more Cidney
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>>334773762
So you have been a SJW for 30 years? Holy fucking shit grandma kill yourself.
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>>334773858
>She's the main heroine of the game you retard.

is she a long-term playable character? No so why are you mentioning her.

I don't care if the narrative revolves around saving her, U only get to play as 4 fags in a boy band
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>>334773971
>you don't like a sausage fest? what are you a SJW

kek
>>
>>334773995
She is a major fucking character in the game you cunt, holy shit

An FF game is not only about the fucking party you retard, by your logic none of the villains in any FF count
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>>334774092
>none of the villains in any FF count

what do you mean "count"?

Im talking about playable characters you get to level up and experience the game AS.

I'm not talking about npcs and villains.
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>>334772797
Just the shitposters.
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>>334773971
Relax and enjoy your yaoi.
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>>334774085
You already proved you were a SJW since you are demanding they change the game to your whim and because you are demanding they put females in the party so you can relate, fucking killyourself SJW-kun

>>334774194
I'm talking characters in FF in general you cunt
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>>334774092

when people complain about XV lacking female characters they mean playable characters. Of course every FF game will have female NPCs...that's not the issue.

Are you autistic?
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