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Defend dark souls 3 pvp
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MUH DICKHEAD SIMULATOR SOCIOPATHIC MURDERFEST ISN'T EASY ANYMORE
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW I CAN'T JUST COLLECT FREE EMBERS BY CHEESING THE SHIT OUT OF HOSTS WITH MY TWINK BUILDS
Get. Fucked. Redfags.
>>334752652
It would have been 2v3 and you would have had a chance if you weren't just standing there and watching.
>>334752652
what's the problem here?
>>334752652
honhonhon
J'aime un petit l'anana
honhonhon
>>334752652
As soon as you defend invading.
>>334752652
git gud faggot
seems perfectly fine to me.
Instead why don't you defend sitting there like an asshole and watching your bro get killed.
>WAAAAAAAAAAHHH I CAN'T TWINK ANYMORE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>ABLOOBLOO THEY'RE *SNIFF* USING THE T-T-TOOLS THE G-GAME GIVES THEM WAAAAHHHH
>MOMMY WAAAAHHH
>>334752652
>just standing there and watching
What a faggot
>>334752652
>pvp
You invaded someone trying to beat a boss, this isnt pvp, if you werent summoned by a sign their are no bullshit honor codes you stupid twink.
>>334752652
If you are going to invade for the sole purpose of making some guys' life harder, why the fuck would he fight fair?
Invaders run behind enemy units when almost dead, gargle humanity like cum and are all around unfair fighters. When I played DS1 and 2 I never gave those fucks a fair fight, it was "get the fuck out of my world you shit eater" mode so I could finish what I was trying to do in PvE
Same, when I invaded I didn't expect fair fights and I knew I had to be crafty.
If you want honorabu duels then red soapstones.
>>334753897
This, he couldve got an air attack and probably kill 2 if not all of them.
>>334752652
im tired of shitters using a mechanic the game actually ENCOURAGES, to break the game
Being invaded while traversing is supposed to be part of the difficulty of the Souls series. A series known for its difficulty.
i really hope something is done about this. otherwise there will be no invasions. Just fags holding hands and skipping through the game
>>334752652
>wasting that perfect opportunity for a jump drop attack on all 3 of them
>>334753720
>mfw I made an anti-twink blue sentinel character with +10/+5 weapons
>mfw they run away and separate from the world when I spank them hard enough in one hit to almost kill them
>mfw a Twink hate messages me calling me a Twink
>>334755050
maybe if the invaders stopped crying like pussies and evolved it wouldn't be an issue.
>>334755050
>invaders can now chug estus
>the host is the one with their hands held
No fuck off, the only ones with their hands being held now are invaders. They have mobs on their side as well as plenty of healing, there is no excuse anymore.
>mfw killing shitters who need summons to get through the game
Get fucked justicefags
>>334752652
>longswords having as much poise break as STR weapons
Literally indefensible
>>334752652
>didn't jump on them
>didn't save your redbro
>>334755065
You can't fucking twink in this game.
>>334755065
>mfw MLG oroboros/Peeve fanbois try to take me on
>mfw I have parry shield and +10 longsword
>mfw they get rekt every time
>>334755250
>decreased health
>limited estus
>>seed of giants
>friendly fire
>no limit on summon for hosts
If you're gonna lie, get good at it.
I think the pvp is good in general, but my three main problems with it are:
Gank squad priority. Fighting gank squads is fun. Fighting gank squads 100% of the time stops being fun.
Infinite summoning. If the host is even slightly capable of dodging attacks, he can avoid you forever until you eventually get bogged down by unlimited phantoms.
Invading using weapons without xbox huge swing arcs is the epitome of suffering.
Also, I wish invasion constraints were tied to something other then the dried finger. Fighting five fucking people at the same time with an ally is more fun then trying to fight three by yourself, unfortunately two butt buddies is more than enough for most hosts, and nobody wants to open the floodgates for invaders.
>>334755271
>mfw you use enemies to your advantage when your boipussy starts getting pounded by them
Pot calling the kettle black mate.
>waaah i invade to 4 on 1 fights
deal with it, if you can jump into someone elses game and attempt to fuck them when they are just goin about their own shit, then they should have a few cards stacked in their favor to protect themselves
>waaah stunlocked poise pls
don't get hit? knight or dragon kite shields and not wasting stamina do the trick for just about anything anyone's gonna drop on you
>>334755065
I started my new character and every summon is a twink, saw a guy with a 38STR axe and full faarm stuff, he sucked dick and was slaughtered
>/v/ actually defends this
I honestly can't tell if you faggots are just the biggest contrarians alive or whether you're just terrible at videogames and have PTSD of being invaded in other souls games and now you're "getting back" at the people who "bullied" you.
Kill yourselves regardless.
>>334755519
The problem is that the game prioritizes invading 3v1 or 4v1 worlds. It would not be an issue if you weren't forced to fight gank squads all of the time.
>>334752652
easy one:
>GIT GUD
>>334752652
I can't
>>334755516
>it's okay for the host to use every tool he has
>not okay for invaders
No u. Your tears are delicious
>mfw over 80 embers all from invading
Oh look, a PVP thread. People won't get salty and defend the fact that they're shit at the game here.
Anyway, the system is broken for more than just invaders right now, here's why
>solo players almost never get invaded, no reason to not be embered
>it's near trivial to deal with invaders as a group unless they run and hide, which wastes everyone's time
>people who invade so they can get embers are better off co-oping
>people who invade for fun aren't having fun and are whining in these threads
I think that if there's more than 1 phantom in the host's world, reds should be summoned in groups of 2, instead of having one join, stall, and wait for backup. Also, invasions shouldn't be weighted towards groups because that's dumb for solo players who never get any action. I got one invasion when I played, mostly embered too.
>>334755519
>when they are just goin about their own shit
They used an Ember, they deliberately opened up their world for invasion, you stupid fuck. Go about your business offline if you can't handle nasty, mean invaders.
>>334755519
>then they should have a few cards stacked in their favor to protect themselves
You mean besides their higher soul level, 40% more HP, and double flasks?
>>334755450
>>decreased health
Again enemies and estus
>>limited estus
As opposed to not being able to use it in earlier installments
>>>seed of giants
Have yet to encounter anyone with it, git gud at comebacks
>>friendly fire
Only if they use dried fingers is this an issue, also
>attacking the same target when facing 4 people at once
>>no limit on summon for hosts
It takes time to summon another, at the same time this was always the case in all souls games
If you're gonna bitch, get good at it
>>334755840
That number is 30% more. Not 40.
But I see your point.
because invading is old and busted
mound makers is the only fun player killing in the game
>>334755640
Fighting gank squads wouldn't even be a problem either if it wasn't so stacked in their favour.
You're basically required to take the biggest weapon you own with you because if your weapon can't hit everyone at once then you will get fucked the moment you try to swing at something.
That and everyone has a gorrilion points of stamina so once the host and his phantoms get in your face, they're riding your dick forever.
Don't invade in places where you have no tough enemies or traps to fall back on if the world master has his boyfriends around.
>>334755778
>creating a strawman thinking I was attacking him
Calm down fuccboi, try rereading my post before your autism erupts.
>>334755838
>They used an Ember, they deliberately opened up their world for invasion,
Maybe they just want to bro-op with some bros and not get hotdicked.
>NO U CANNOT CO-OP THAT IS AGAINST THE RULES I KILL U NOW
Either way, enjoy your gangbangs.
>>334755558
lion knight something?
I invaded hosts with him a few time and assumed he was an NPC at first because of how bad but tanky he was
It might be fun if latency allowed for it to work properly.
I've never played soulsborne PvP where what you saw was close to what was actually happening, which makes the name of the game "swing about wildly and make educated guesses"
>>334756037
>Maybe they just want to bro-op with some bros and not get hotdicked
Maybe you should play a different fucking game if you want to coop without doing pvp because every single entry in the souls series has had this mechanic. Why haven't you learned how the game works yet? Are you a fucking retard?
>>334756010
nice skirt fag
>>334756010
you should spend more of your autismbux on upgrading your rig m8
>>334756108
>I've never played soulsborne PvP
It's always been like this, you have to adapt.
>tfw killed two invaders and a mad spirit all ganging on me
>One of them with a parrying dagger riposte
I have never orgasmed that hard.
>>334755828
Invaders don't get backup at all unless the host uses a dried finger.
Stalling is actually bad because the host can slap on the way of blue sign and start pulling fun cops into the world as well.
>>334755838
>they used an ember because they want to be invaded!
U wot, the only reason anyone uses an ember is to summon a phantom you deluded faggot
>It's a 'invaders get butthurt that they can't ruin everyones fun' episode
>>334756108
For all of its supposed faults my netcode experience in 2 was a hell of a lot better than in 3. I have no idea how From have regressed with it.
>>334756146
Hey bruh, I'm not the one complaining about ganksquads. If you think I'm not entitled to bro-op without dicking me, then you're not entitled to invading 1v1s either.
Enjoy getting ganked :D
>>334756146
The people who summon phantoms on their first play through are fucking scrubs who refuse to learn or adapt to the games mechanics. It's why they need two phantoms in every zone and why they hate invaders.
>>334756203
>It's always been like this
Hence why I didn't say I've never played Ds3 PvP where...
you illiterate
>>334754281
It's a thrill, hearing the red orb crackle as I'm swathed in dark, ready to ruin someone, nit knowing what I'll find. Being inches away from victory or defeat, knowing, that I am the thing at the back of the host's mind. The thought of them fuming as I shit all over their numbers and tricks, and being the reason they fail. My heart pounds every time.
http://youtu.be/QxJrjV4PNXA
>>334756146
>want to co op play a different ga.r
>why havent you learned how the game works yet?
Apparently you dont understand what ember is entirely used for ruggarell.
I wish this game had better/more diverse armor. DaS 2 beats it handily in the fashion department.
>>334755519
If you're defending FOUR versus one you're a retard. I'd understand maybe 2v1 with no item or flask bonuses, but you're just a shitter.
You can't defend it, that's the thing, it's fucking shit on both sides of the spectrum.
Invaders generally get shit into worlds into a 1v3, and hosts have to deal with a faggot that will take 3 hits, run away and heal with their 8 estus flasks, and then come back again or hide behind enemies.
Dark Souls 2 had the best PVP in the series, hate me all you want but its true. Soul Memory actually keeping fights fairly equal, dodging wasn't completely spammable and makes it so you never get hit, and actually had fun covenants to invade with outside of lelneutral mound makers.
>>334756226
Yes and the game punishes you for being terrible at the game and needing extra HP and your fuckbuddies to help you clear everything by opening you to invasions. It's supposed to be a risk/reward system but unfortunately From have caved in to little faggots like you whining about invasions being "unfair" over the years and now there's almost no risk when using an ember.
>Embered the whole way through the game so far for that sweet sweet HP bonus
>Only time i've been invaded are Aldrich faithful gangbangs
If you want 'muh old fashion rape PVP' go join them and feel like hot shit when group killing players.
>>334756340
Judging by your comment, I'd say
>I've never played Soulsborne PVP
is accurate
>>334756218
>Some guy invades me and my 2 phantom bros
>He doesn't come to us, so we sit around waiting instead of being idiots and going into his ambush
>Blueberry joins
>Dorkmoon joins a minute later
>Dark Spirit hahaumad has returned to their world
kek
I'm SL33 with a +5 weapon and some of my invasions have been against people with like 1500-2000 HP, are these hackers or is it legit that I may be matched with someone that much more leveled than me? I feel like they got to be hacking because they always have some weapon with high stat reqs.
I really wish there was a watchdog mod for das3 so I can know when someone is hacking for sure and just black crystal out.
Is it just me or are basic 1 hand shortswords the most broken weapon type right now
If you get hit once in pvp it is practically guaranteed they will be able to follow up with 4 more hits for your whole health bar while you're stunlocked
Can't do that with great weapons or maces because the stagger wears off faster than the swings but the short swords man
>>334756146
how bout stop being butthurt you can't ruin people's fun anymore.
You are trying to ruin their fun and you're mad they are retaliating against you and winning.
Git fucking gud.
>>334752652
I frankly would rather opt out from PvP altogether.
I've played the series since the beginning, and this is the worst it has ever been for hosts.
I don't want to have to summon people all the time just so I can defend myself against invaders that are stronger than ever.
I appreciate the game's challenge, but invasions really just get in the way. I'm forced to do a bunch of bullshit and try to kill some faggot that's going to run around the map trying to make me aggro a million enemies while I can't homeward bone away, can't use the bonfire, can't do shit unless I pull my router's plug off.
>>334752652
Ahh, delicious invadefag tears. I'm having a blast tearing through you scrubs.
>>334756515
>pretending to like Soul Memory
Listen I get that the "DS2 was good" meme is trending right now. But don't you dare fucking suggest Soul Memory was a good thing
>>334756493
I said if you want to coop WITHOUT the pvp, maybe you should learn to read.
>>334756549
>Yes and the game punishes you for being terrible at the game
And the game punishes you for being terrible at invasions by pitting you against 3v1s.
Have fun.
>>334756549
Something tells me your boipussy was ravaged after using your last cracked red eye orb since youre practically giving away strawmen, anon.
>>334756602
Currently I have 1,000 HP without embering, and embering gives a 40% HP boost.
>>334756726
That is a lot of wasted points.
>"I broke into someone's house to rob them, why did they call the police?"
>>334756515
>Dark Souls 2 had the best PVP in the series, hate me all you want but its true.
I'm pretty sure no one disagrees there, bud
>DeS had a very small PVP scene
>DaS had broken poise, a shitty arena, a terrible backstab system, and bad netcode
>BB PVP is boring
>DS3 PVP right now is hiding behind mobs or insta-dying.
>>334752652
why should I defend it when I could summon two people to do it for me?
>>334756602
When you invade you can end up invading someone 30 levels in front of you. Check the wiki for details.
>>334756602
If I remember right, MM is +/-20, so if scrubs put too much in health, you'll probably end up with a few builds like that
>>334756613
You break out of stunlock after two hits no matter the weapon unless they don't autolock and catch your roll into them.
>>334756624
>He doesn't find the tension of getting invaded fun
Just stop playing Souls games, they were clearly not fucking made for you.
>>334756726
what SL though?
>>334756759
>He doesn't world of strength
Never had to fight a boss more than twice yet.
>>334756664
It sure is a lot fucking better than what we have in DS3. If you think the stupid shit with weapon matchmaking is better than Soul Memory, then I'm sorry but you're retarded.
Soul Memory fucked you over if you lost too many souls, but honestly didn't really matter after the million point because the tiers were wide.
>>334756806
>>334756804
I'm invading as sunbro
>>334756491
every time i think i can't possibly find a bigger faggot on this sight someone surprises me
>>334756809
Yet I've died several times today to straightsword users stunlocking me from full health to nil
Mash roll key or hope they run of stamina (they don't), same outcome
>>334752652
it's optional
I'm still having a lot of fun with invasions. You're just forced to use the map/enemies more for the kill. For real easy mode you can "twink" with flame weapon/Estus upgrades and straight up 3v1 people in the earlier areas such as the swamp.
Also setup parries with target shield+hornet ring are broken atm since pretty much everyone will follow up their R1 with another R1.
I didn't kill tree yet by cleared the rest of undead settlement, can I still join the Mound Makers? How do I do so?
Faggots don't realize that asymmetric PvP is the best. 3v1? Fucking throw bombs, run, camouflage, hide, ambush, poison, come up with anything you can. They'll run out of estus eventually.
Fuck all of you 1v1 final destination faggots.
>>334756693
Well theres no way to do that in any souls game, the only person here bitching about pvo is you since youre the one getting spanked by them. Youre the one invading them through the orb, not the sign, its open season from that point on autismo.
>>334756938
>3v1? Fucking throw bombs, run, camouflage, hide, ambush, poison, come up with anything you can.
It's funny, because half the people who say this then say
>WTF INVADERS USING THE ENVIRONMENT TO THEIR ADVANTAGE ARE FUCKING FAGGOTS
>>334756717
Explain to me how this system hasn't come about because of people whining about invasions being "unfair".
You cannot tell me otherwise, it is a very clear design choice to punish invading.
>>334756926
What's the target shield?
>>334753720
>It's a B'AWWW retort episode
>>334752652
This is actually a good thing.
As an invader you actually need to use your BRAIN instead of just rushing towards your hapless foe and spamming R1 with your Chaos Greatsword.
You need to use the terrain to your advantage, use mobs to wear down the host and his phantoms, lie in ambush and wait for the right opportunity to strike.
DaS III PvP is the best in the series so far. Fuck off with your fight club 1v1 bullshit.
>>334756929
[spoiler/]you know how there are those dudes with pots and boards on their backs? well there is one with an empty cage on his back, he won't aggro you, go find him and get in the cage.
OUPs a fag and anti invaders summonbabbies. Instead, let's do something productive, tell of your successful invasions and share tips to help your fellow dickwraiths.
>invade in farron keep
>>host has a phantom
>engage but losing because frostbite
>go to the swamp
>use quickstep to not lose speed
>use dung pies to induce toxic and use my higher mobility to backstabber phantom
>host runs away into the waiting arms of a .monster
>HOST OF EMBERS DESTROYED
More to come
>>334754393
This
Why not just plunge attack the shit out of them and fight?
I found your problem OP, you need to stop being such a gigantic cock sucker faggot
>>334756759
1000hp is 27 vig
you can get that as a level 24 knight and then wreck invaders with raw broadsword/astoras
>>334756909
Praise me more sempai
>>334757057
>waaaah I shouldnt be punished for trying to ruin a players game and take his ember from him
U srs m8
>>334756491
>The devil tips his hat to me
How appropriate
>>334756814
point out when I said I don't enjoy the tension of getting invaded?
I'm just saying not everyone who plays the game is the same person.
If you want to invade and can't hang tough against greater odds maybe you should stop playing souls games.
>>334757062
It's been in all three games anon, it's a larger shield that behaves like the buckler with it's better parry frames.
>>334756929
Wait, is he the lone one looking over the cliff on the right past the bridge?
>>334756938
It'd just be nice if they mixed it up more and had varying numbers on each side
>>334757261
Maybe if plebs like you weren't so bad at the game YOU could do the punishing yourself? Fucking idiot.
>>334752652
>Lord Wiggles est mort
RIP, Lord Wiggles.
Give me the motivation to get through Irithyll Dungeon, this area fucking sucks.
>>334757134
>highlight text
>press ctrl + s
Thank me later, friend.
>>334757329
Fuck, meant first part for
>>334757134
>people complain nonstop about facing parties when invading
>never get summoned as fun cops covenant ever
>>334757329
I've had plenty of fights with varying numbers of all kinds of phantoms.
>>334757394
So you dont have any real response just another strawman? Got it.
>you will never be summoned as a Blue Sentinel, Blade of the Darkmoon, or Watchdog of Farron
>>334757261
The fact you think simple pvp is "ruining a players game" is unbelievable
>I'm so bad at the game I need people to carry me through the game
>I'm so shit at the game I can't possibly beat an invader
>Invaders are assholes because I'm not good enough to have fun at pvp and it takes me hours to get through an area
Well, what's the fucking point then? To tell your friends you beat le ebin hard game? Fuck off.
>He doesn't use a Dark Sword
>>334757416
You endured Farrol Keep.
Irithyll Dungeon is fucking nothing.
>>334757441
This was the one of the best things I had learned while browsing 4chan. Top notch convenience
>>334757493
Ive been summoned as a blue sentinel a couple of times. Sad part is most fags dont talk to npcs so most miss the blue boys club so being summoned isnt as common as it should be.
>>334752652
this isn't what i call pvp
i will reserve my opinion for dark souls 3 pvp for the end game when everyone has finalized builds and intend to pvp 1v1 instead of ganking retards who have to use phantoms to finish the game
>Purples
What a stupid covenant. Do they really think people are going to summon their purple signs knowing they will get betrayed?
>>334757480
I'll strawman all I want because the pvp is clearly fucked and clearly the only people who benefit from it are stupid faggots who can't win fair fights.
Enjoy it while you can because I can almost guarantee the stupid gooks at from will realise their mistake and revert it to an older style on invasion system and then your fucking ass is open season for me.
>>334756146
Shut the fuck up, you and the other reds are the ones bitching about this, I've not seen a single co-opfag complain about this.
this thread is pretty good bait, i almost fell for it myself. well done, OP.
>>334757509
>simple pvp
Hes invading through an orb, not a sign you samefagging double nigger.
>>334756929
from the area with the cult worshipping the burning tree with the fat bitch, take the wooden bridge and instead of going through the farm go right over the top of the roofs, try to find one of those big saw guys carrying a cage on his back. Hop inside the cage
>>334757673
This. How does that even work?
>>334757261
>Wah I don't like a major aspect of a series
Maybe you should play something else
I've been greatly enjoying the pvp. Its the first game since DeS that has had playable multiplayer for me (DaS1 and 2 were insane lagfests for whatever reason).
I think the ganksquads are a bit much at times. It should've been that there can be 1 less red spirit than coop spirits beyond the base of host+ phantom. An invaded host who is summoning multiple phantoms is the highest priority on the invasion list for more phantoms to punish him for being a little bitch and summoning thirty million phantoms because boo hoo a single invader.
Invaders SHOULD be the underdog. It makes invading way more fun. If I wanted honourable 1v1s I'd use soapstones.
That being said I'm getting real sick of invaders crying constantly about ganksquads when 90% of the invaders I've fought run like little faggots the second they're getting their shit pushed in 1v1 or 2v1s and hide behind enemies and make gestures like they're hot shit.
>mfw using white branch in the double crocdog area in anor londo then seed of giants when the stupid fucks hide behind the crocdogs trying to gank like the bitches they are
>>334757689
>I've not seen a single co-opfag complain about this
Wow I can't imagine why!
Dark Wraithing was never easy. It was never meant to be easy.
Rise above and dominate the weak.
>>334757673
would have been a lot better if purples could win by helping kill bosses too, imagine the rage as you're about to down a hard boss and the purple asshole you summoned backstabs you
So exactly what advantages does an invader get this time around anyways?
>They get better estus if they're trying to twink it up
>Weapon memory means that the invader doesn't get better weapons.
>There's almost no mob in the game that is going to last long enough against a host and two phantoms to make something out of.
>This game has a notably small amount of level mechanics for invaders to use against a host.
>Actually, invaders get a smaller choice of weapons, because they need to be as scummy and tryhard as possible. Good fucking luck trying to fight three people with a spear.
>The invader gets to come prepared, but that's a moot point this time around because every invasion is going to have phantoms, who also come prepared.
>Stunlocks automatically break after two hits, so an invader cannot use an opening to burst somebody down
>people shitting on invading
>I used to be one of those people
>beat the game
>realize I don't want to assist people with bosses or deal with (as a blue) 'those' red faggots who just sit back and wait to pounce 20 minutes after they invade
>invade
>4/5 times the host has 2 phantoms
>get hit with longsword as if its hitbox was the ultra fume greatsword
>nopoisegame
>no escape
>die
Feels like I have no real covenant to associate with now
>>334757148
the easiest way to win in the swamp is just to wait for the host to get killed by a monster on his own, especially those giant tree holding fucks
>>334756909
>sight
>>334752652
so you are crying because you are invading the world of another player that is playing coop with other people and say that is unfair?
that is not pvp, that is an invasion, the game already have places for "formal pvp" stop crying and get good faggot
>>334757686
>invader saying others dont fight fair when they funnel them into mobs of +5 enemies after they purposefully invade their world to fuck their progress up
I can see youre angry so Ill leave the conversation there.
>>334757827
You're the retard telling people to play a different game because they dislike a core mechanic, co-op has been here from the start and will always be here, it's the invaderfags who need to move the fuck on if they can't handle this.
>>334755592
I really do hope they're just vapid shitposters and don't actually let 3 other people play the game for them so their precious fun doesn't get halted in a game that's supposed to fuck their shit up.
>Dark Souls 2 had the best PVP
>Santier Spear
>Helixodon
>Avelynn
>Resonant Weapon
>Soniculars
>buff stacking
>overpowered magic
>no unlimited red eye orb
>Soul memory
>arenas full of tryhards running the current meta build
>cheaters everywhere
>Dark Souls 2 had the best PVP
>>334752652
Defend? Lmao
I alt f4 every. single. time.
>>334757781
Maybe you should samefag somewhere else my strawman obsessed sperg.
How exactly does weapon matchmaking work? Is your weapon level just added to your soul level? If I managed to get a soul level 10 character with a +10 weapon, would I just never be able to invade anybody ever because nobody in that level range has a +10, or would I invade people as if I was level 20?
You guys act like this game takes skill or some shit. I still don't understand why something with such slow paced combat would be interesting to some many people. Man times sure have changed.
>>334752652
As edgy as its sound, I really like the farron greatsword and that sweet moveset.
>>334758006
>a player versus player situation is not PvP
Am I reading this wrong?
>>334758131
never ever.
>>334758008
>when they funnel them into mobs of +5 enemies
Who's strawmanning now? Also learn to use apostrophes you uneducated fuck.
>>334758006
The issue is that you are prioritized to invade into 3v1s or 4v1s, not that you have to fight ganksquads sometimes. It's stupid. There is no risk to popping an ember and then not summoning because you will almost never get invaded.
>>334757148
carthus bonfire is best area. it was 1v4 but i just stood up where the rolling boulder is and the phantoms came at me one at a time and i was able to pretty easily kill them. The last phantom and host tried to rush me at the end but I just focused down the host and the boulder killed us both. That's a success in my book.
If someone need a full squad to get through the game they're shit, if you can't find a way to beat them it's your own fault. The games have always had ganks, you either learn how to deal with this or stop invading.
>>334758118
>Literally my first time posting in that chain of replies
Just kill yourself if you can't acknowledge you're wrong
>>334757894
I don't know anything about DS3 but when I was in that situation in DS2 my solution was to join the dragons.
>bawwwwwww gank squads are unfair unbalanced game is ruined :(
>bawwwwwww invading is unfair you're ruining my experience :(
Go play Dark Souls 2 if you want le hugbox 1v1 honor dueling, Reddit
Whats the fastest way to get into an invasion-covenant?
I don't like PvP because I can't handle the lag, but I was thinking about making a character for larp-invasions or something, like dressing up as darkwraith and imitate an encounter just for the fun of it
>>334758239
that's because of the ring that allows you to have 1 more guest but also 1 more invader.
>>334757261
Invasions have been a thing in the Souls series from the get-go, and if done well they're fun as fuck
If you think they're "ruining someone's game" you're retarded, but, hey, there's a retards options for you: just play non-embered.
ITT: Orb invaders complaining about getting anally annihilated by bro-opers because they cant git gud at using enemies and environmental hazards
You kids must be new to the souls scene.
>>334758276
Again, issue isn't with gank squads. The issue is that invading prioritizes them instead of just randomly invading whomever is within your are and range.
>>334758313
You get mound makers before you fight the big tree boss and its not long after that you can get the Red Eye Orb from whats his face up the top of firelink
>>334758313
You don't need an "invasions covenant" all you need is the Red Eye Orb which you get from talking to Leonhard after getting a Pale Tongue and killing the Darkwraith
Look on Leonhard's wiki page if you don't know how
>>334758326
>just play non-embered
b-b-b-but I can't beat bosses without my hp boost and 2 friends to carry me!!!: :'(
>>334757148
>invading undead settlement on release
>host has a white and blue is summoned
>lure them down a drop with a red-eye mob at the bottom, enclosed space allows us to make quick work of both of them
>host sits there summoning another phantom and another blue invades
>sit at the area with the firebomb chucking hollows on the rafters and mr.claypot man on the ground
>they aggro the mobs
>engage them on the bridge on their retreat, only manage to kill the blue when suddenly
>host of embers destroyed
>mr.claypot knocked the other phantom and the host off the bridge while I wasn't looking
5 kills 1 invasion baby.
>>334758075
I don't play pvp myself but from watching videos DS2 seems to have had the best PvP, its the most enjoyable to watch at least, seems relatively stable in comparison to the lagstab-fest that DaS was, and whatever Bloodborne PvP revolved around
>>334755857
>have yet to encounter anyone with a seed of a tree of giants
I invaded for about four hours in the Japanese version one day. 70% of all worlds were a three-man ganksquad with an active giant seed. It should be a reward for dying to an invader, not killing one.
>>334756892
>>334756806
>>334756804
yeah sunbro invasion matching is your SL +10 or -30 for host SL so that means someone would have to have 1500HP at SL43, which I don't think is impossible but holy fuck.
>>334758352
>giant seed
>>334758352
they mostly want to invade a player trying to end the game and fuck up his progress, and since invaders are usually bad at the game they just can't handle jolly cooperation
I enjoy ganking hosts and reds ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>334758280
>>334758326
No, you just refuse to read correctly as it clearly means you use enemies on someone just to fuck up the progress those kids make in an area. Not my fault you get spanked because you cant into using enemies and traps in areas. So dont even try to twist my words into a strawman roody poo.
>>334758496
I've been playing up to Road of Sacrifice unembered because I'm a Jew with consumables in RPGs including the use of embers
I really love the phantom range on the straight swords, so epic and awesome to get hit 5 meters away from a host and his boyfriends
>>334757416
It's incredibly short.
>>334757125
sure
>>334757673
I get summoned fairly frequently. Most people seem to be treating it like dueling or something. 90% of the time the host summons then attacks you on sight. It's a stupid, poorly thought out covenant that could have been one of the more fun ones since there is no incentive to do anything other than just kill the host on sight.
Why would I want to defend some shitty JRPG?
>>334758615
>ruin a player's game
this is what you literally said, no-one is twisting your words you illiterate retard
>>334757527
Multiplayer is a small aspect of Souls. Most people don't participate in it besides a couple of summons.
>>334758352
Pretty much this. Everyone complaining about this are invading wanting a 1 on 1 honorable anime duel.
>mfw I invade a host with 2 sun fag bodyguards and I keep raining arrows on them while taking cover behind enemies
>>334758575
You say that like the enemies only attack the invader scrub. On top of that its such a rare item used that if you use that as an argument youre only saying it out of rsge of being spanked.
Git.
Gud.
>>334758615
>Utilizing a major feature of the game
Go play something else if you can't handle us "ruining somebody's game"
>>334758708
>>334757673
You don't use the sign, you use the Red Eye Orb with it and change allegiances constantly
The sign is only good for trolling new players while wearing the white phantom ring
>>334755558
That's an NPC moron.
>>334755519
>just goin about their own shit
Apt choice in a baby image you reddit faggot, is the game too hawd if deres no big stwong phantoms to cawwy you?
>>334756491
top quality post
>>334757673
I got invaded by a purple dude you sat around, so I summoned a 2nd purple and he killed him and finished his objective
Shit was hilarious
>>334757148
>invade in road of sacrifices
>host has 4 fucking summons
>pelt them with arrows to get their attention
>they chase me
>drop all my gear except my rings
>now we wait
>they lose interest or just give up
>making their way through the level as I stalk them
>use atonement? the hex that draws monsters to you
>gankers get ganked
>use warcry and strong R2 as they're being stunlocked by crows
>kill 3 of them
>last remaining sunbro pulls out a zwihander
>and a shile
>dumbass
>kick open his guard and riposte him
>dead
>use the iron of the irithyl jailers to keep the host from healing
>dark sword does the rest
Can't believe I haven't gotten any hatemail yet, maybe I'm insufficient?
So this means Dark Souls 3 online is going to die faster just because of extremely rampant gank squads which gives invaders less reason to invade.
And then with less invaders Dark Souls 3 will just become a boring Co-op game?
>>334758714
>I refuse to read your post because I take everything at face value and wont look into what anything means
Back to where you belong
>>>/NeoGaf/
>>334758575
giant seed is a very rare item, most people won't use it unless they are making big progress PvE and don't want people to screw it
>PVP HAS TO BE FAIR!
>THEY MUST STOP WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND BOW
>NO HEALING
>NO PHANTOMS
>PEOPLE MUST PLAY BY MY RULES WHEN I INVADE THEM
Every souls game. Honorable duel faggots are the worst.
I like being invaded. It's fun. I played through the ENTIRE game embered, solo. I got invaded 3 times not counting NPCs.
I got fucking invaded more in dead Dark Souls 2 a week before 3's release than I did during the release week of 3. That says a lot.
>>334758535
The best thing about DS2 PvP was that there were actually a massive amount of viable weapons and different fighting styles. Sure there were a lot of memesters using generic ice rapiar and santier's spear, but there were also a ton of unique builds because the upgrade system in DS2 is simply amazing and there's tons of weapon variety, especially with the DLC and power stance
right now the biggest problem with DS3 DLC is that there's basically only about 4 kinds of weapons that are worth using. There's "big weapons" which all work the same, there's "swords" which all work the same, and there's estoc and katana. That's pretty much all you're ever going to see. Spears/polearms are shit, there's only like one weapon with a cool unique moveset (that abyss watcher sword). Every fight is the same because there's no variety.
Maybe things will get better when people start exploring more unorthodox fighting styles. I literally haven't seen a single person ever use a bow during normal combat for example, only for sniping
Does Old Wolf Curved Sword hold up in endgame? I love it's skill and passive, but I think it's gonna fall off in damage hard.
Goddamnit bros we were supposed to fucking rape the shit out of new players with our +10 weapons and twinked out build but FROM SOFTWARE CRIPPLED US BY GIVING THOSE STUPID HOSTS THE ABILITY TO SUMMON HELP. HOW THE FUCK IS THIS FAIR? I'M FUCKING ANGRY NOW. I WAS SUPPOSED TO RUIN THEIR FUCKING GAME BUT THEY FIGHT BACK. FUCK THIS SHIT
FUCK
THIS
GAME
>>334758968
>I'm trying my hardest to use a language I don't understand at all and blame it on others when my babbling isn't making sense, then point to Neogaf for some reason
nice, nice
>>334758131
Some people are saying it isn't a thing. Others are saying it just sets the lower end of who you can invade. Like at +3 you can no longer invade people with +1 or less weapons.
Gank squads woudn't be so much of a problem if it wasn't so hard to kill somebody quickly
>Hit somebody
>They automatically break the stunlock and roll away
>Their two friends prevent punishing as they heal
>Repeat infinitely
In other games you could fight the gank head on if you were good enough, but this time around even the game mechanics are against you, and not just the one I said.
Only time that winning a straight up fight seems remotely possible is when the host/phantoms are batshit afraid of you and give you an opening to run down somebody you've injured.
>>334758827
>utilizing a major feature of the game
Such as signs for co-oping, good job faggot.
>>334758976
Nobody has asked for this, you people keep making it up as though it's been said
>>334758634
you get both kindled AND you get an ember item every time you help a host kill a boss. It's pretty much impossible to run out because you can leave your sign outside a boss door and get summoned in 3 seconds right now
>>334759060
This. I asked for a refund already. This is not a real souls game.
>>334758983
> I got invaded 3 times not counting NPCs.
Damn, that's a lot. I went through the entire game embered, and with Darkmoon/Blueberry shit on. Never got invaded, never got summoned to defend against an invader. Shit sucks.
>Initial week of DaS3
>it's better than two!!!
>Issues with PvP start getting more attention
>Eh, it's shit just like two
Is this a new cycle?
>>334758965
It's a fucking cycle
The early weeks of DS is always full of co-op, as soon people get all the rewards for the covenants people will start to focus on invasion
>>334759067
>throwing out another strawman because he has no rebuttal
Stay mad from being spanked then fuccboi.
Quit crying, faggots.
Invading isn't PvP, it's PK.
PK was always a divisive thing and most MMOs either did away with it or put PKers on separate servers because most people thought it was a shit mechanic.
You fags don't deserve to have it easy.
Remember, as a dickwratih, you're there to be as much of a DICK as possible. Harrass and aggravate the host, it doesn't matter if you don't win, in fighting you, he and his summons have to use up supplies they need to get through the level. Don't blindly rush in like a faggot. Deceit, patience and the knowledge you are fucking shit up just by being there, these are your weapons.
>>334757172
Maybe because friendly fire is only on for reds
>>334756303
I'll be enjoying using my game trainers too :D
>>334759125
It's almost like they're shitposters and you keep responding to them.
What a surprise.
>>334759113
Nobody is getting mad that people are doing jolly cooperation, people are annoyed that the odds are significantly stacked against you when you do. It should be asymmetric, but 3 vs 1 as the norm is ridiculous
What bothers me about this game is how easy it is to fuck up a quest.
>mfw Yuria
You fart on the wrong room and she leaves the shrine along with 3 more npcs.
>>334759245
Try having your posts make sense, Juan. "B-b-but you're taking what I said as what I said" isn't going to cut it on your green card exams
>>334759223
Dark Souls multiplayer was never good and it's about time people accepted it.
>>334752652
It's entirely fair. Invasions=/=duels. It's not a test of skill, It's a fight. If you don't use every scumbag trick in the book, the opponent will.
They still have to deal with enemies, which is why you should be as dickish as possible with where you invade.
This wraith is a failure.
>muh fair duels
>muh progress and -~*fun*~-
When did this place get so casual?
>>334758829
Wait you can invade as a moundmaker? Didn't know that.
Used the ring trick but since they can lock on to you and can't see your name or health unless you're their very first summon its pretty obvious from the start.
>>334759297
>red will die anyway from gang spank
>not taking advantage of the triple plunge attack being laid out for you from his sacrifice
>>334757673
Purple covenant is the funnest one out of all of them.
You invade a world and anyone is free game. You either kill a spirit, that is an invader of any type or the hosts summons or you can kill the host. It's a free for all for you. You're a mad spirit for a reason.
Always great when the red invader doesnt expect you to suddenly stab him.
>>334758965
Yup. Game's going to be dead as fuck in a couple of weeks at this rate unless From do some changes. If their previous updates are anything to go by they'll probably wait until the first round of DLC before doing any major changes to the invasion system so yeah, game's gunna die.
dark souls pvp is, and always has been, stupid, imbalanced garbage.
>Invade as red
>Gank squads galore
>Invade(Wait around 3 fucking hours) as blue
>Host disconnects
I JUST WANT MY DARKMOON RING
>>334759032
pretty much every weapon in the game does the same ~500/600 damage at max upgrade, old wolf cured sword is pretty generic. It will work fine
>>334755065
what is that gif from?
>>334759178
This dumbass doesn't even realize that post was completely facetious.Typical dark souls pvper. Too bad you aren't actually good at any real games with real, balanced online competition.
>>334752652
Dark Souls is not a PVP game
>>334758983
>play solo
>only being invaded once
>try to summon any redfags I find
>unable to summon dark spirit
Life is dull.
>inb4 dried fingers
>>334755250
>They have mobs on their side as well as plenty of healing
that actually would have added to my point of "this game is supposed to be difficult" you fucking retard. there is no challenge in invasions knowing you can, and will always have back up. also invader has gimped health anyway
irl only pussies jump people. i guess the net suddenly changes that huh?
>everyone does like 500 damage to me with every single weapon
>i only do 250 a swing at most with a 40/40 str/dex scythe
fucking bullshit this is
>>334759579
I am actually really good st CSGO and League of Legends so about you fuck off casual?
>>334756215
Did you roleplay to them too, faggot?
>>334755065
I know you're a liar.
Everybody knows that nobody actually fucking manage to get summoned as a blue sentinel, these are just myths.
>>334759436
None of them would have been killed.
>literally 0 good covenant rewards
lol
>>334759378
Reread my last post for my reply since its basically the same shit coming from your last post.
>>334755592
>biggest contrarians alive
everyone besides invaders loves it, it's the perfect storm of people like you who can't stand their own brand of fun ruined when it came at the expense of someone else's
>>334759456
The difference is in the older entries even if you were gimped by your weapon/gear choice you could still outplay your enemies and beat them handily if you were better at the game than them.
In 3, or in any of the other games infact, going against 3 enemies (especially when poise doesn't work) is almost never going to go well for you regardless of how good at the game you are. It doesn't reward good play.
>>334759627
what upgrade level is the scyth?
also I think Scythe is a sweet spot weapon in this game, like a halbred. If you hit with the handle you do shit damage but if you hit with the blade you do normal damage
>mfw parrying balsy hosts chasing me with their ganks and then one shoting them with hornet ring
This is literally the best ring of the game.
>>334759787
That's like, your opinion dud
>>334758131
SL range is +/-10 as a general rule
Weapon reinforcement range is +/-2
Weapons that only go to +5 are doubled
Reinforcing anything is a oermanent decision, forever setting your reinforcement bracket to the highest you've ever reinforced anything, even if you go full retard and reinforce a shield
>>334759627
The weapon balancing is bad.
Look at the Broadsword in comparison to anything else. I started using it while I was waiting for some decent greatsword to drop, but I ended up just staying with it because I have zero incentive to use anything else.
Are miracles any good? Throwing points into faith every now and then, but this miracle vendor bitch doesn't have anything offensive even after giving her a tomb.
>>334759430
When all the springfags started posting here. I can only imagine the horror of what summer will bring this year.
>implying I can even get online to play pvp past this retrieving latest calibrations bug
>invade with godmode, infinite stamina
>fuck up the host's status so he gets softbanned in the future
>kill him and all his sunfaggots
Thanks family share, im loving it.
>>334759595
(you)
>>334759825
What's the best weapon to use with it?
I haven't even looked at critical damage values.
>half the weapons and armors are from Dark Souls 1 and 2
I want my money back.
>>334759808
dawg, you are SUPPOSED to invade
you SHOULDNT have a small band with you
it has never been like this for a reason, until now. Note that this is the most commercial, normie Souls game yet
>>334752652
red soapstone: fun pvp
red eye orb: rape time (ganking, seed, pitfalls, etc)
>>334756491
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
>>334759864
Offensively, so far, I've only used Force. The bolt is trash, I don't know if the stronger offensive options are better.
Wrath of the Gods is always good, but if you really just want to do offensive casting, go Sorc or Pyro.
Faith is mostly an accessory to melee.
>>334758009
Prioritizing a host that has summons has not been in from the start, and that's what everyone is mad about.
I'll never understand why people get all pissy about invasions/defending agains invasions, like it's just a part of the game, not to mention that there's almost NO consequence to losing on either side besides potentially losing some souls on the host "Oh boo-hoo, now I have to restart at the bonfire and use an ember if I want to summon!!!" "Oh boo-hoo, I didn't win my invasion, now I have to wait 20 seconds and use my redeye orb again!!!"
Literally every time I've encountered a red invader, i get them to low HP and they run behind a pack of mobs and estus.
One particular tryhard fag before abyss watchers did this 4 separate times, and when he had no more mobs to escape behind he ran away and black crystalled out.
Most of the fags in these threads crying about the PvP are twink shitbabbys who are mad their cheese build can't kill 3 people at once. They all deserve to get fucked.
>>334759864
the good attack miracles are loot, not from the vendor.
>>334760036
>crawiling
Elaborate.
>>334759832
theres literally nothing good other than maybe darkmoon blade enchant, but good fucking luck grinding that out
>>334760136
Probably because they get super salty when they lose instead of just shrugging it off like a normal person.
>Decide to try invading
>smouldering lake
>host and one sunlight warrior
>go down to the dungeon area
>kill phantom
>host runs away back to first bonfire
>summons 3 phantoms
>kill another phantom that goes at me
>summoning another phantom
>4v1
>kills me from a mile away
>>334760145
if you get invaded at abyss watchers you should just sprint to the fog wall and disconnect them that way
>invade world
>it's 3 guys
>die
well shit ok better not mess with that world
>invade world
>it's the same people
>4 times in a row
>>334759787
Obscuring Ring is great for invaders.
>>334759935
Bot him, but you can't go wrong with thrusting weapons.
>>334758976
I agree, although the healing delay should be vastly increased. On the other hand it would affect PvE too much I think.
>>334758535
It works mechanically speaking but it was always full of issues, either balance or stupid game design.
Hell, everyone always cried about Soul Memory and the lack of an infinite red orb, invasions were pretty much non existent even with most people CE-ing their way around those issues.
DaS3 has the best invasion mechanic so far and I actually enjoy being at a disadvantage compared to previous games where the invader was always the most prepared of the two.
When people say DaS2 had good pvp, they mean swinging all sort of weapons at eachother in /dsg/ fightclubs, and certainly not invasions or arenas.
>For some reason can't find any more invasions with my main when i was literally finding one every 5 seconds.
>Create a new character for testing
>Go to Lothric
>Not even a summon sign, even though i'm still online as evidenced by the message
Wtf, i just wanted to invade some people and have fun. Does anyone knows what might be the cause of this?
>>334759825
>Parry the host
>His two phantoms are so far up my ass that even trying to do the parry gets me killed
Biggest problem with the game. Holy shit it's so hard to create space at all. Once the host and his phantoms close in, you're sucked into a state of eternally backing away, and if you do anything else you get your shit kicked in.
>>334760305
he's using dried finger to suck in invaders like a magnet. You should go invade a different zone if that happens
Is it just me or is this game really fucking jewish about souls and titanite?
>tfw lvl 25
>tfw 35 vig
>tfw 200 ar unbuffed heavy dark sword
Im not sure who said that you could'nt twink, but hes fucking retarded.
>>334759935
Can't say senpai, anything with high AR or high critical is good enough, my buffed crystal lothric sword have 440 ar, and i was 1 shotting some hosts, while leaving the rest with 20~10% hp. If they have any damage on them, it should be enough to one shot, unless they pumped 50 vigor, and even then i was doing 700~900 damage from their 1800 hp.
>>334760360
Forgot pic.
If you have to fight more than 2 people, DO NOT LOCK ON. Learn to free parry and abuse the fuck out of invincibility frames.
If you invade and get ganked that's too bad but it's part of the game and you can't really fault anyone for it if some scrub needs help with a boss and you come in to potentially cock it all up?
Do you expect the phantoms and host to line up and all have a go at you single file like?
One thing that's kind of dumb that I will give you is when people gank someone and then taunt as if they've accomplished something it's fucking retarded.
Gestures are good to do after 1v1s or if you're goofing around with pals.
If you taunt after ganking someone you just seem like the annoying weak little brother that talks shit to the people his big brother beats up for him.
>>334756815
No, embering gives a boost of x1.3.
That's 30%, anon.
>>334760396
You get titanite in this far easier than any of the other games.
>>334760396
Souls? Yeah. Titanite drops like candy with just a 50+ Discovery boost.
>>334752652
>Defend dark souls 3 pvp
Everybody who beat you was better at the game than you
>>334760305
I imagine all this shit will tone done as the game gets older, its fucking rediculous at the minute, Ive had like 5 out of 50 fights where its 1v1, but even then someone invaded/ inbetween but just couldnt make it in time to the fight. I sit around the crab place on my own just to get people to invade me for a fight without a gank squad, Im sure invaders are pissed with that shit.
gtx 460
amd phenom x4 9850
can i run this?
>>334760360
>>334760470
>Merely pretending to be retarded
>>334760379
Use green blossoms, cloranthy ring and grass crest shield, and the firebombs you can drop behind you, punish them for chasing you.
>>334760459
>>334760324
I was thinking of having a heavy weapon and shield up, then having the parry dagger and some crit dagger on the off hands. If someone ran at me with a rapier I could change parry and pull out the dagger.
I have no idea how viable this is, I want to give it a go, too bad I have to get to the end of the game to get the hornet ring anyway
>>334760519
>>334760531
Doesn't honestly feel like it. I used to drop Chunks much more frequently in earlier games.
>>334760136
The biggest problem people have is that fighting the gank is frustrating and not fun.
In other games fighting the gank is fun and challenging.
In this game fighting the gank feels like an act of futility. Notice all the people saying how it's necessary to resort to scummy dickbag tactics because actually fighting the host and co. is so ridiculously difficult.
>>334760540
Wrong, anyone worse than me is a shitter, anyone better than me is a no life loser.
>>334760624
See if you have a password on your online options.
i often forget to remove mine after playing with friends.
If not, you're softbanned.
>get a dagger up to +10 because it has the highest critical modifier
>it does less critical damage than my fucking dark sword
god damnit how is this okay
>>334760181
>Crawling
>crawiling
you need to spell check, or learn how to use a dictionary
>Put down a red soapstone sign
>get summoned
>Host has two phantoms
>At first think he may be doing a fight club of sorts but they all start attacking me
>Black crystal out
>Sends me fanmail calling me a coward
Come now, old son.
>>334752652
I enjoy being invaded, and I hope there is a mode that allows Dark Souls/Demon Souls-style invasions.
Somebody tell me that it isn't a pain in the ass to get fuckin' invaded like Bloodborne, I want to have occasional invasions as I run through the PVE game to break things up. Can I just stay in Alive/Kindled/Whatever-form and have people invade me while benefiting from a bit of an HP advantage? Or is it some bullshit where I need to actively summon another player before I can get invaded?
I'll be fuckin' pissed if I can't just go in, get summoned a couple times in the first areas and watch dumbfucks die, humanity myself up and explore the area, get my shit pushed in by invaders ala Dark Souls 1.
>>334755828
Fuck, so I'll never get invaded as a solo player?
>>334756832
Soul Memory isn't back is it? I don't mind if they have a little bit of level matching, I always limit my upgrades/level until NG+ anyway, but Soul Memory was straight up bullshit.
Man, even seeing twinks was interesting for me if I could occasionally beat them legit, and you'd get a preview of cool stuff without having it completely spoiled by reading a guide.
>>334759841
Can people dump their weapons in a box so that low-level invasions won't be dead in a couple of weeks? I don't have time to fuckin' play until next fuckin' month, fuck.
>>334760379
Usually, i just bait the host to chase me and swing at the other phantoms to back them off(which prompts the host to try and gank me from behind not knowing you can parry 360 on this game)
It is fucking amazing the amount of people that try to play safe when they clearly have a high advantage over me, if they all went swing spam at me at same time, i would stand no chance even if i hit them back cause they would trade for my whole hp bar, but all takes one or two swings to keep them at bay.
Obviously, you don't do it when they are all chasing you on a narrow hallway with nowhere for you to roll or attack or hide btw
>>334760136
Some people can't handle losing.It's just a game :^)
>>334759627
The sweet spot on the scythe is back, if you hit them with the handle you do almost half damage. Shit made me drop the scythe cause theres no way in hell youre gonna reliably land it in pvp.
>4chan is now in defense of shitters who go through the game with 2 faggots and defeating the whole purpose of invasions
You fags really are the worst
>>334760845
Oh stop a grammar nazi and just tell me what you meant. Are you calling me emo, edgy? Dumbass memespoter.
>>334760485
People aren't complaining about gank squads. People are complaining about how ridiculously difficult the game makes it to fight them.
Bumrushing an invader and mashing r1 is a safe and viable tactic in this game.
>>334759456
And that's why DaS3 does it the most intelligently by acknowledging the imbalance and reinforcing the role of each player.
>>334760145
Literally every time I invade someone they run to their bonfire and summon 17 phantoms even if I drink all my estus in front of them and show them the empty flask while staying away from mobs
>>334759935
Using an Ultra Greatsword is the best with the hornet ring. They brought back the same animation from DaS1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sRGAZ_Q4zY
>>334756010
DSIII spoilers ahead.Just before you strike the final blow, the soul of cinder tears open a hole and flings you far into the future, where his evil is law.
>>334760786
nope, never used a password.
Never used any CE either or got any item from anyone online. Strangely enough, i can actually invade 2-3 people consecutively in one day, but then i'm unable to invade anyone else again. Also, can't use the Way of White Circlet, so it's not that either.
>>334760861
I don't no who the hell you're playing against but every person I see gets super aggressive when you start backing away at all, and if your swing doesn't hit EVERYONE then goodbye half of your health at least.
I don't invade nor do I summon phantoms, but I can see how the system is a bit on the rough side. That being said I'm fine with the status quo since it doesn't affect me.
Is parrying weird to anyone else in this?
It feels really delayed and sluggish. Even with bucklers.
I could parry all day in DeS and DaS1 but this feels so alien to me. In PvE and PvP.
Do I just need to practice? Any tips?
In DaS I just looked at the enemies weapon as it was striking to time the parry but it feels so awful in this.
>>334760636
Parry here is very well done and almost pve tier precision, you only need to do a bit earlier than normal, but you can definitely learn the timing unlike the other games.
Buckler is the best crutch tool, but parry dagger is still good.
I have yet to test how good a dagger is in term of damage, maybe a infused one with high elemental scaling should do decent like crystal/chaos/lightning damage but doesn't look promising since >>334760843
>invade
>faggot has 3 phantoms
>kick their shit in, I think, because they eventually stop healing and just stand there spamming emotes or whatever
>if I come closer they back away, and I know they're not trying to use a seed on me cause they killed the monsters on the way to where we were
JUST FUCKING ATTACK ME!
It can be annoying but I get a much more rewarding feeling when I beat 3 people, and my GCFO wouldn't be so hilariously effective if there weren't multiple overconfident enemies chasing me.
>not just slapping on your heavy dark sword and cleaving for the dmg of an UGS while swining as fast as a straightsword
Guys cmon now, if theyre gonna cheese you just cheese them back harder.
>>334756010
>mitsurugi
Oh god be my friend.
>>334756218
Can't switch covenants once it becomes a two player game.
>>334761280
Have you tested out the painting guardian sword in this one? How is it if so?
>>334761279
It's literally DaS2 parrying, which is different to DaS1 parry.
DaS1's was an instant parry on the button press, now parry had a slight wind-up.
>>334761246
Are you using the mobs? 90% of my encounters had phantoms scared of the pve mobs prompting them to either go waste time killing/stop coming at me or have the host bumrush at me by himself
>>334756624
>you can't ruin people's fun anymore
Imfuckingplying.
>>334761335
You mean like how invaders run around the map just to fuck with the host and waste his time?
You had it coming senpai.
>>334761090
I love that animation, UGS it is.
>>334761280
I'm having a bit of trouble with parries, although each play through i'm getting better with timing them. The regular shield parry seems like it has less frames to it.
>>334760860
Last I heard, matchmaking is more based around your weapon enhancement level now, rather than your level or Soul Memory.
>>334760964
>Defeating the purpose of invasions
Uh, seems like it's working fine to me, git gud faggot if you want to win. You know, what people like you told people that complained about getting invaded in previous games?
Can someone explain these purple faggots to me
>>334761571
Invaders can't do that Because the host can just go to the boss fog and kick them out
>>334755065
People that invade have to be in level range and have weapons that are within 2 levels of yours. You can't fight someone with +10 if you have +7 for example
>>334761279
Parry as the attack is launched not as you're about to be hit like in DaS, that's how I do it.
>>334757398
>L'Espirit sombre Lord Wiggles est mort.
>L'Espirit sombre Lord Wiggles est mort.
dunno why this made me laugh so hard
Anyone encountered me the last hour or so at archdragon peak?
>>334761493
>Helping people in Undead Settlement because I'm bored
>get invaded by some guy in the first building after the bonfire
>he keeps running away, hiding behind enemies but we kind of blow through all of them
>gets killed by giant spears because he thought he could hide around the enemies there
>>334752652
>unfair2.webm
Maybe if you didn't stand there like a faggot he would have had a chance.
>>334760136
This.
The only thing I'd change though is give some kind of reward, even a small one for each phantom you kill because you will often kill a few before the host.
That's also what makes mound makers the most fun to me, I get rewarded for slicing through phantoms on my way to the host.
Estus nerf when?
unless you kill them in one hit the host is invincible, especially considering the connection favors the host.
Don't even say LLoyds, because they just roll and run away until it wears off.
>New, likely blind players because it's near launch.
>Moundmaker covenant
>Put on the ring that makes you look like a white phantom and get summoned
>Help them clear out enemies, fend off invaders
>When they fight the boss, start attacking them
>mfw
God, I wish there was a way to make your soapstone appear white.
Mimic summons would be GOAT because it would make for great moments and potentially dissuade people from constantly summoning
>tfw get summoned by a gank squad and you spend the best hour of the entire game killing a constant stream of invaders.
Don't be bad
>>334761670
That implies every host will know where the boss fog is + that the host even wants to challenge the boss at that point in time.
>>334756591
about the only reasonable thing to do. Why would you wait?
Also I haven't used dried fingers but I can still get two invaders. However one is a straight invasion and the other I think is the passive invasion from certain defense covenants.
Anyway dried fingers should have a perk. Like 1.25x souls and item discovery while embered and active. That would give some real incentive to use it aside from pulling ganks.
Wouldn't it make more sense lorewise for dark spirits to invade solitary and weak targets instead of naturally going for a group that's prepared to kill him?
>>334761762
Invaders can kill each other regardless, don't need to be a moundmaker
>>334757307
Then you should be just as opposed to this system, because now invaders invade the casuals who don't want to be invaded 90% of the time and the people wanting one have to wait ages depending on the area.
This system befits no-one, it's like From crafted it with the specific purpose of making everyone stop wanting to invade.
>>334761762
Join mound makers, don't even need to kill the host sometimes
>invade
>get a player with an invisible phantom
>check profile
>Taiwanese
>I have cross region matchmaking disabled
Bug or hack?
>>334755776
how did it go that far?
Can someone please explain to me why you Sunbro retards keep killing each other rather than the host when you invade? Makes life as a grape too easy or too hard
>Actually have another redbro invading
>You just watch as he gets ganked instead of evening the playing field
>>334761493
Unfortunately there are very few enemies in the game that don't immediately disappear under the mob of blades. It does create space, but that's only a temporary solution. There are so many game mechanics this time around that favour the side with more people.
>>334761571
I think you misunderstand, I'm not saying they did wrong, I'm wondering as t1o why superior numbers would hesitate against a lone invade. As for wasting my time? I clear my schedule when II invade, and they're the ones not progressing so...
>>334762003
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD.
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE.
>>334761586
Yes, small shields or other tools designed for parries are way WAY better, i find medium pretty hard to land even on pve mobs
>>334761464
Haven't tested that yet, i only finished the game and i'm kinda waiting for them to fix the sliding bug animation/etc
>>334761948
I'm pretty 100% certain that their idea of cross region is "Japan and everywhere that isn't Japan"
>>334752652
if you consider 2v3 an instant loss then you probably aren't good at the game
just saying
>>334761948
Maybe the host had cross region on to get that phantom but the host himself was in your region.
From should just get rid of summoning altogether
If you summon to clear an area, a boss or defend from PVP you're just a giant shitter.
Summoning doesn't teach people shit.
It just allows them to be shitters who never need to learn from mistakes.
Which are what the soul games have always felt like in the first place.
>but m-muh co-op
play a fucking moba or mmo if you want to play with your friends.
>>334761717
>that huge ass shotel
It's disgusting and I love it.
>invade as mad spirit
>3v1
>red spirit invades as well
>ignores the gank squad and starts attacking me
i'm mad alright
>>334762139
And you're the one not getting rewards.
Your sick cool guy attitude doesn't really make you not waste your time.
You had it coming, senpai.
>>334762261
Too bad the shotels suck in this game.
The shield penetration is so weak
>>334761889
It's the dark spirit who's prepared to kill, not the host or his phantoms and that makes a huge difference even if the others have the number advantage.
>>334762138
Yes senpai, that's exactly my point to begin with in the first post, it give you some breather to one shot the host with a parry without his buttbuddies ravaging your anus.
>>334761950
because its a long range spell?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-R3-n5p6t0
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSZ2lFGTSdo
>>334762291
>Playing the One versus Everyone covenant
>Surprised when nobody is on your side
>>334762291
You think that's bad. Ive been getting into games with to sunlight invaders as a grape who either fight each other or me when all our objectives are to kill the host. Hell even when I invade as sunlight itll be a 4v1 cause the guy with me attacks me
>>334761948
Cross region is for Japan only.
On - You can invade and get invaded by Japanese players
Off - You cant
This is exactly how it worked in Dark Souls 2 and From didnt change it because they dont give a shit about the rest of the world.
>>334762237
What if i'm on like, my third playthrough messing around with new builds (after soloing every area and boss prior) and I wanna summon someone just for the hell of it?
>Invading as a warrior of sunlight prioritizes worlds that already have invader(s) to enourage jolly co-op ivasions
>only 2 of these are from invasion victories
How do I stop being bad, orget a decent connection
>>334762323
I'm saying that given how a dark spirit's goal is to brutally murder the host he's invading, shouldn't the game be geared towards prioritizing lone targets when invading instead of guys with multiple phantoms that would deter a dark spirit from invading them? Just saying it doesn't make much sense apart from wanting """balance""" to make the dark spirit prioritize strong groups instead of lone targets.
>>334762291
Mad spirit is ez
>every weapon I enjoyed feels underwhelming
>game feels short as fuck
>some areas feel a bit too similar, catacombs was easily the most boring version of catacombs across all three games
>pvp is less fun than 2 and also more annoying
I.. I want to love this game but I don't know if I do. At least I appreciate the hitboxes no longer feeling retarded, and the nostalgia factor.
>>334762339
Not sure what the point your making is honestly.
Mobs create space between you and the gank squad, but most gank squads tend to stay close together, even in the face of mobs. I don't see how this creates an opening to fuck the host up, especially since regular attacks don't cut it.
>>334762502
Too bad all the sunlight invaders fight each other rather than the host
>>334762308
Ahem >>334759271
Cry more I'm so close...
>>334752652
>poorlittlewhiteboy.webm
Whats the point of summoning mound makers for co-op?
>>334756652
>I don't want to have to summon people all the time just so I can defend myself against invaders that are stronger than ever.
what kind of retarded shit am I even reading? play offline or unembered you fuckwit, no one is forcing you to summon anyone
>>334760620
Roll back drivers to 314.22 and it will run at near 60 on max, prolly 45 ish
On current latest drivers it will be 5-15fps.
I have a GTX580 and can run the game at 60 at near max, others with 7xx+ cant even get that because the 312.44 only works up to the 6xx.
So a $30 card runs the game better than a $1000 card.
Game has made some serious waves as it objectively proves Nvidia is purposefully gimping cards. They should be forced to undergo galactic tribunal for willfully and maliciously inhibiting the progression of humanity.
Or it could be Hanlon's Razor.
>>334757416
Path of the Dragon, yo.
>>334762603
Why do people even summon you when they can just summon another white/yellow?
>>334752652
>gesturing when you kill someone in a gank
That is the only thing I do not understand.
>>334757148
>invade in the dungeon
>spawn in the same fucking hallway as host and his two phantoms
>it's the hallway just under the entrance with the caged up blood leech monster
>mad dash for the door to that monster as they all bumrush me
>swing it open just as they're about to reach me
>monster tears them one new asshole a piece
I fucking love invading here.
>>334762638
See
>>334759825
You parry a balsy host chasing you and r1 smashing
>mfw college apartment internet connection
Pavlov Media, if you're listening, kill yourselves.
Kill every last one of yourselves so you stop tainting the market with your cheap ass bullshit.
>get red sign summoned
>host heals
>black crystal out
fuck off
>>334752652
>try to lure you to enemies
>complain about 'fairness' while ignoring things they can use to their advantage
>invaders estus
>complain that hosts estus
>invaders outnumber host
>don't complain about fairness
its almost like invaders are just trolling faggots
>>334762645
Taken less than five seconds ago.
>Been playing the game solo all the way through.
>Been invaded quite a few times
>1 on 1 most of the time, currently win/lose ratio is about 80/20
Is it because I'm playing solo and not summoning help that I'm not seeing many invasions? Been noticing a bunch of people in other threads saying the match making tries to match an invader with someone that has more than one person in their world.
>>334762765
I'm a spirit, not a phantom.
And that was this morning when the update hit, they probably couldn't see me because of version disparity and I couldn't hit them so I just followed them both until the host offed himself trying some stupid shit.
>>334762686
They're summoned at a place randomly and can attack enemies.
They can also assist with invaders
>>334760485
Getting ganked in 3v1s as invaders isn't "too bad." It's poor game design. It takes only a few seconds to summon and hosts take no penalty for it. The fight is drastically balanced in the player's favor, forcing darkwraiths to hide behind mobs or ambush to even stand a chance against ganksquads.
>you can't really fault anyone for it
I fault from software
>if some scrub needs help with a boss and you come in to potentially cock it all up?
using co-op to handhold a scrub through every level and boss was balanced by the fact that you could risked being invaded as well. It was a risk/reward factor that make going online a fun experience and deterred shitters from letting phantoms play the game for them because a red phantom could kill them and waste a humanity.
Is there no scaling on pyromancy, statwise?
You just up int and fai up to the requirements for the spells you want to use and then upgrade your pyromancy flame to make it do more damage?
>>334762784
The only time I get ballsy hosts are when the phantoms are being just as aggressive.
ez parry opportunities are few and far in between, and believe me, I'm looking for them. I'm carrying around a parrying shield for a reason.
>>334762883
Yes, and?
>>334753720
what's an easier sociopath simulator than sitting around with three phantoms waiting for someone to murder? This is possibly the easiest murder simulator so far.
>>334762953
Yep, been playing solo for about 40 hours and I only got invaded 3 or 4 times total and it's rare that I invade a solo player.
>>334757134
>he won't aggro you, go find him and get in the cage.
He literally turns back and starts attacking me before I can even make it within 10 feet of him. I didn't even kill the tree boss yet either
>purplefags
>can't use enemies against host
>can't help host properly
>most people will kill you on sight
...what's the point?
I don't know why you fuckers expect people YOU invade to follow your arbitrary rules of conduct? If I'm the leader of Mongolia and I invade China, I don't get mad because China has more people in their own country, I get creative and start lobbing heads and diseased bodies over their city walls.
>playing this game for PvP when the PvP has been shit since Demon's Souls
I just don't get it.
>>334762941
I don't see how that pertains to my argument. Every time I get in a game as a sunlight invader the other one attacks me or I get in and there's two or three of them figting each other rather than the host and his army. No shit your attacking the host when you're by yourself.
Where should I be invading at level 85?
Stupid quest, but where the fuck do I turn in Sunlight Medals
There's no penalty for dying as an invader, only thing that bothers me is having to pick up my souls where I died.WHICH IS WHY I INVADE WHEN I HAVE NO SOULS
>>334763292
Something's messed up, I've even walked right in front of him and he hasn't agro'd.
>Place my purple sign at Siegward's crib in Irithyll
>I'm wearing rags and using a painting guardian sword to be non-threatening, even though the sword does shittons of damage with 40 dex
>this one guy summons to duel me 3 times and loses, I managed to bait out a parry with a charged strong attack, felt good
>another guy looks awesome and we bro-op for a while, but I kill him cause he left himself open with 100 HP left, felt dirty
>he resummons me for revenge, I try (and fail) to fight off an invader that fucks off somewhere. I then drop 10 embers for the host and sudoku out
>another guy summons me to fight the silver knights, then tries to black crystal me out. He tried to kill me when it didn't work, so I killed him instead
being a grape is great when you don't really need shackles anymore and you can just fuck around
Gundyr and Vordt need more health.
They have the potential to be cool early game fights but they're over so quickly.
>>334763050
>forcing darkwraiths to use the advantages available to them such as enemy placement and traps to deal with the advantages hosts have available to them.
fixed that for you. Stop being a little bitch. If you want "muh honorabru duel" throw down a soapstone and quit whining like a faggot.
>>334763306
if you're a red and the host + his buddies decide to try to wait you out there's nothing you can do but be patient, but as a purple you can lead groups of enemies to them.
>>334762883
>Three players can demolish 99% of mobs almost immediately, and the distraction barely counts for anything because
>Any of them can estus and also have people protecting them while they do
>Hosts that get multiple invaders are just as fucked as regular invaders are. They're in the same boat
>>334763404
Anor londo I think.
>>334763050
>Its the game's fault I'm bad!
Uninstall and kill yourself
>>334763423
Invading this time around gives you dicks for souls. You get pretty much nothing.
>>334763512
>there's nothing you can do but be patient
Just use the obscuring ring and snipe their bitch asses.
>>334752652
STANDING ON THE EDGE OF THE CRATER
Like the prophets once said
And the ashes are all cold now
No more bullets and the embers are dead
Whispers in the air tell the tales
Of the brothers gone
Desolation, devastation
What a mess we made, when it all went wrong
>>334762710
Thanks a lot dude.
I really appreciate it.
I will try to upgrade soon but I wanted to know if the game would even run at acceptable framerate.
Cheers bro
>>334763502
Well time to fap again
>>334763346
>Playing this game for PvE
>It's easy as shit
>Do a few playthroughs of different builds and then you're done with the game.
>Play for PvP
>Can go to PvP areas to fight skilled opponents
>Can fuck with shitters
>Can play a single build for over a hundred hours
I literally don't get why people would play a souls game for the easy PvE.
What did From mean by this tracking?
If they added in an item that lets you disguise your soapstone to appear as a different colour everything would be perfect.
>>334762857
>failed to summon every red I've seen
Why? I can co-op and invade fine, why can't I have this?
>>334752652
I won't because all SoulsBorne pvp is shit.
>like four different anti invasion covenants
>you can be up to 4vs1 with two blues, a host and a summon
>invaders cant even use embers to heal themselves like they could humanity in past games, making the embers you get from killing hosts useless
>anti estus throwable had its ranged nerfed to fuck, and you can only carry five of them AT A TIME
>had multiple times as an invader where I spawned directly in front of the host and his 2 summons, and couldnt even move from spawn position because of stunlock
Why did they bend over for the "WAAAAA I DON'T WANT TO PVP" crowd so much?
>>334752652
Just came here to ask what sword that is. Is that the uchi? looks more rough.
>>334763701
You don't do it for souls, you do it for embers and covenant rewards.
>>334763780
I believe it roughly translates to 'You're dumb for not dodging'.
You can switch the direction of an attack midway through the animation you dingaling.
>Invade someone using a sunbro
>The sunbro actually fights me one on one
Well that's a first
>>334763803
I wish they gave you the ability to place down traps
>mine carpeting an area with strong mobs with estus blockers
>>334752652
Dark Souls PvP shouldn't be balanced.
>>334763715
>Tfw pelting a camping gank squad with magic so they're always on edge.
If those fuckers think they're going to outlast me, they're wrong.
>>334752652
You can use the red sign soapstone to get players who actually want to fight.
But yeah, invasions are totally fucked. I'd imagine as the number of players goes down, and the more serious fans are left, you'll start to invade more players by themselves who will honorably fight you, but for now it's ganksquads squads out the ass.
MUH HONORABRU DUELLUU
*UNSHEATHES KATANAS*
YAMEROOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
>>334759060
I unironically agree with this. I remember getting my shit kicked in when I first played DS1. You're supposed to be beaten down to your breaking point and keep going and overcome adversity of the game constantly fucking with you.
>>334763907
I wonder what the nips think of this.
>Host uses my white grape sign
>Only have to kill one phantom
>He's being invaded, so I start fighting the dark spirit
>I'm wrecking him
>Suddenly the host jumps out with his autism wolf greatsword and kills me
>Dark spirit and host praise the sun
Why is being a grape so hard
Why do they bully us.
>>334763780
You can use manual aim with the bigass heavy weapons to compensate for their lack of speed.
>>334763965
That's not why he was apparently.
>>334763965
Oh and to dick with people.
>>334752652
>French
>katana faggot
Defend yourself.
>>334752652
I have never gotten hype for darksouls, but invading and shit like that looks pretty fun, same as beating on invaders.
You just stood there while your buddy died, what a gay. Might as well give you another (You) because i know bait when i see it.
>>334761765
>join warriors of sunlight
>go to area where there are a billion summon signs, 90% of which will fail
>hosts are just running back and forth spamming summon trying to get someone
>put down a red soapstone sign
You'll get your invasion in seconds and 9 times out of 10 there'll be no other phantoms
>invasions are impossible 99% of the time
>place red sign down to actually have fun
>get summoned into a game where the host tricks you into getting ganked by 3 spectator phantoms
great
>>334764258
>Why is being a grape so hard
>Why do they bully us.
>grape
>g rape
>g ang rape
>gangrape
>>334762378
>not giving an ear rape warning
Jesus fucking christ that's some shit music to play.
>>334752652
>stands right there like a bitch instead of joining the fellow invader
How is poison this time around?
Also, what are some good ways to make people waste estus without putting yourself at too much risk?
>Ring makes you look like a white phantom
>Doesn't make your soapstone look white
Well, what's the fucking point then?
>finally find a weapon i enjoy the look and moveset of
>its a fucking sweetspot weapon and useless in pvp
>>334763965
>you do it for embers
Why? What do you use embers for when you're invading? You get embers for literally everything so if you wanted embers to fight a boss you can just white sign for a much more guaranteed one.
In past games you got Humanity and you could actually use it in an invasion to heal, but you can't use embers that way in this game?
So invading in DaS3 is basically boiled down to getting the covenant rewards, and then after that it just relies on how much you enjoy kiting around 3 faggots.
>>334764435
poison does fuckall
not sure about toxic
the luck stat apparently boosts how fast you inflict status effects
>>334764342
Why, does it appear as orange?
>mfw MUH PVP fags get BTFO by ds3
>mfw invading as a grape and using RtR to kamikaze hosts
>even if I die I get paid
I only wish you could do the allahu ackbar the chapel zombies do/
>>334763507
less than half the areas have actual traps and only an idiot would aggro an army of mobs to chase a darkwraith. try again.
>>334763965
embers are useless
you cant even use them to heal in invasions
>>334759730
I get it all the time. What's your SL? The lower the better.
>>334752652
Better get used to it
>>334764552
DaS got popular because of the notorious dickass PvP elements.
This is like a pornstar popular for his huge dick cuts it off and still expects work.
>>334764541
Yes. The sign is slightly different in that the actual lettering is reddish but the glow around it is identical and hosts mashing summon won't notice it or the "dark spirit" text until it's too late.
You even get sunlight medals for killing the host, it's how I got the 30 medals you need to get great lightning spear.
Then I found out how shit great lightning spear was, cursed a lot, and respec'd to strength
>>334764682
Two blues?
>>334764554
RtR?
>>334764483
>then after that it just relies on how much you enjoy kiting around 3 faggots.
A lot.
>>334764631
I do play PVE
>>334764682
>Poor little red guy
>>334763907
Most people don't want to PvP.
Most people represent most sales.Besides, they're right, since souls multiplayer is shit in every form.
Anyone know if acid surge is any good? Or if there's any other way to break enemy equipment?
I got to use acid surge on an afk host today somehow, but I couldn't immediately tell if it was doing anything.
>>334764770
Red tearstone ring.
>>334764505
Toxic is like twice or maybe three times as fast. Enough to be a nuisance, but still not really that bad.
>>334764682
>One regular phantom
>Two blueberries
>4 warning lights
My fucking sides
>>334764435
Poison is shit, like always.
Bleed seems to be aight though.
>>334762953
I am pretty sure that invasions only happen with co-op and it's impossible to be invaded when solo. The "invasions" while solo you've seen were probably npcs which can invade if you have humanity.
>>334764997
>warning lights
What?
>>334764682
>invading without sunlight warrior equipped
>>334765107
Those signal incoming phantoms
>>334763780
Red phantom rolled ridiculously early, and even had an opportunity to roll again before the hit connected.
>>334755778
>it's okay for the host to use every tool
You were literally just crying about how it wasn't okay.
>>334765065
Nah, I've been invaded solo before.
It's rare though.
>>334764683
DaS got popular because of YOU DIED and nothing else.
Most people don't even participate in PvP.
>>334765065
Can confirm you can be invaded solo, was invaded in crystal sage area.
>Get invaded
>Lag is so bad that none of my attacks hit
>His attacks hit me although I keep dodging
>Die
Fuck this netcode
>>334764971
ahh, should have guessed
>>334753720
It's hard to tell if people like you or trolling or not.
The way you guys "rage" on 4chan makes it seem over the top and thus fake, but on the other hand you're persistent as fuck.
It bothers me because invaders are already at a disadvantage due to having less health and less estus.
>tfw they ruined Darkmoon
>tfw no more making guilty pay the price
>tfw just a shitty blue sentinel ripoff now
>>334764563
>try again.
Here's a thought you didn't address. Quit being a whiny faggot. Invasions were literally never supposed to be fair. You're either invading some sap who doesn't know what the fuck is going on or you're invading a guy who has friends.
>there are people in this thread who let other people play the game for them
I just don't get it.
Why not watch a playthrough?
Saves money and your precious time, best of all, if you get stuck on a boss, zone, or get invaded too often, all you gotta do is fastforward the video so you can skip the icky bits.
What a dumb heavy fight tide fuck off
>>334765065
I've been invaded a bit while solo. Definitely people, as they're wearing goofy shit and doing gestures like gilligan's sprawled out pose.
I'd imagine it's just that solo players are the lowest priority. Tons of co-op activity right now, and that means the relatively small portion of the community who wants to invade is all going straight to the highest priority large groups. And since they get their ass reamed by the co-op gank squad, slots are constantly opening up for the next invader to join that same party.
Give red signs priority to appear when invading. There, ganks fixed.
>>334765065
It's not that invasions can only happen to people in groups, it's that pretty much the only time people go "human" (and therefore, invadable) is when they want to summon
>>334765223
>>334765241
The fuck, I've played through the game twice through already and haven't gotten invaded once solo
dark souls 3 has the least enjoyable pvp of any souls game unless youre the host
the only time i had fun in this game is playing NG+, summoning max number of phantoms and turning the finger on
>>334763738
I got a Murray toast out of that, I feel accomplished.
But yeah, go AMD, this Nvidia garbage is the last fucking straw the fucking frauds.
And if you look at their twitter they're pushing huge efforts in surveillance, face rec, and self driving cars.
Nvidia is NOT YOUR FRIEND.
>>334765501
It's more than that, because you are turned human after every boss you beat
>>334765542
>the only time i had fun was gangbanging victims with no effort required
This says a lot more about you than the game, having overconfident faggots run into my sacred flame and get one shot is far more enjoyable.
>>334765737
im sure that is fun the 1 out of 20 invasions it ever works for you m8
>>334765823
It works about 1 out of 4 times but in about 80% of invasions.
When you spend ages throwing fire at your feet they eventually try to roll past you and that's when they're the easiest target imaginable.
>>334765703
Hence the "pretty much", after killing a boss you're headed into a new area and most likely will die at least once unless you're very good at the game
>invade as a Mound-Maker
>SunBros death charge on sight
>evade until proven friendly
>chill with host and Summons and kill other Red Invaders
Being a MM is so much fun.
>>334765065
I highly doubt there's an NPC invader called "Yo!" in this game.
>>334760254
>Obscuring Ring
>Man-Grub Staff
>Great Deep Soul
>Old Wolf Curved Greatsword
>Wolf Ring
>Artorias' Greatshield
Pretty much all the covenant rewards are useful aside from maybe the Archdeacon's Staff, but that's because I haven't actually used the damn thing.
>>334752652
>it could have been you.webm
Why are there blue sentinels AND blades of the Darkmoon?
Just for role-playing purposes?
>>334754642
This.
I never understood people bowing either when they invade. I mean, if you were summoned for the fight club or some shit, alright makes sense.
But an invader is there to kill, no honor bullshit.
Invaders are supposed to be dicks, that's the point of doing it
Thread is dead anywaysI miss scraping gear
It's not as bad as early DS1 or DS2, but they seriously need to fix poise.
No matter what armor you wear, you will be staggered by any weapon or enemy in the game. It's literally a placebo stat.
They also need to lower damage on straight swords and katanas, and make magic not utterly garbage damage-wise.
Besides those I don't have much to complain about.
>dont want to be a faggot and use memeshitter weapons because it just isnt satisfying to win with them
>use greatscythes in pretty much all games
>in this game the sweetspot shit is back so they do like no damage in pvp
>invade a guy
>just get shit kicked in by gank squads majority of the time since the only people embered are the ones who want to summon
>even if the host uses the finger item its just a clusterfuck that the host wins 99% of the time in due to coordination and not having their allies fight against eachother
>half of red summon signs are people tricking you into gank squads
>whenever you do get an invasion that has the potential to be fun its just another shitter who mashes r1 for days and gets a free 600 damage on you whenever he lands literally anything, or the netcode is so bad its impossible to hit anyone with the scythe sweetspot
i should just go fucking heavy weapons this is such a garbage way to play the game
I think the "problem" has to do with the fact that you really have no reason to use an ember unless you want to fight a boss.
Re-spawning at a nearby bonfire after dying to an enemy is a lot better than dying to a boss and having to run through enemies just so you can hopefully retrieve your souls and beat him.
This risk factor one of the big reasons why I think you'll probably run into people who ember to summon others rather than people who are just solo playing the game with an ember. Of course, this excludes people who gain their "humanity" after boss fights, but I'm just going to assume that they're in the minority based on all the bitching going on on /v/.
Personally, I'm not going to beat around the bush here, I have fun shitting on people's games as an invader. I just need to use the enemies more often than not. Other than me sucking dick, you can still do well at invading, you just have to change your tactics instead of bum rushing what's obviously going to be a losing battle. If there are no enemies to draw the host into as well as his phantoms, just leave the world and move on. You're not going to beat a 3v1 unless they all suck.
>>334766203
From wanted a friendly blue earlier in the game but forgot they put Dorkmoons in already.
>>334766196
the only good item there is the obscuring ring, the rest are useless or outclassed by something else
>>334759564
its from a flash animation of kill la kill.
>>334766530
>You're not going to beat a 3v1 unless they all suck.
That's the problem. Everything is so stacked against you that you will barely ever win barring special circumstance.
In previous games you could git gud and fight gank squads if you wanted to.
In DaS3 even the game mechanics are shitting down your throat when you try to fight a gank squad.
>>334766330
How did poise work in early DS1?
In late DS1 it seems fair.
It's fun
Yesterday I got ganked by like 4 guys but they were all shirtless and named after Backstreet Boys members so I wasn't even upset, honestly.
>>334767357
>>334767357
This. Without even relying on backstab invulnerability, the game was fair enough to allow even one invader to fight 1v3.
The phantom's inability to directly heal from their own estus helped immeasurably and wasn't too unfair because invaders had to rely on the same inconvenience. So either you had some spare humanity, divine blessings, or just healing magic. Otherwise, you'd be screwed.
Now it's too simple for the host since the phantoms can heal themselves and it's way to easy to just dodge attacks and smash A/X twice to summon for help while walking backwards ad infinitum.
>>334767581
That is fucking great
>>334761129
Fuck you.
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