Why don't Japanese studios use proper 3D models for their anime-styled games instead of that celshading bullshit?
There's a reason you never see models this detailed in motion outside of Pixar movies.
>>334689081
Because it would look overly creepy
Because when they do it looks terrible and the cell shading is clearly superior?
>>334689081
What the fuck do you even mean, cell shading uses models you tard
>>334689081
Because artstyles.
>>334689081
>reverse image search
>find this
Dick status: MUH
Because cel-shading does a good job of conveying the 2D features while 3D models can make it look weird and off. More isn't always better.
>>334689653
Anyone else feel like the version with the bra and skirt is way hotter than the nude one?
>>334689081
they look like plastic dolls with that high shading, it looks horrible when animated.
>>334689081
Tradition dictates they stay 2D and budget constraints don't allow detailed 3D models like your pic.
They only use 3D to rotoscope their 2D onto, like Knights of Sidonia and some action scenes from Kill la Kill.
>>334689739
>nipples covered with bandaid
>nude
m8
>>334689081
Just take a look at Wind Waker. The art style still makes it look good despite the graphical fidelity being quite outdated. That's not to say that all these anime styled games look good in the slightest, but they'd end up looking worse either immediately or further down the line if they dind't.
>>334689796
>splitting hairs
boi
>>334689739
No, because with the skirt you can't see those godly hips
>>334689319
>Namco doesn't try with tales anymore
A console gen later and they still haven't made one that looks better than vesperia.
>>334689653
I wish all anime games were like this
Tinklebell does it and anyone that can't fap to their stuff is clearly missing their genitals.
>>334689653
her butt looks weird desu
>>334689081
are you talking when their eyes and mouth are 3d model on and not just textures?
>>334689739
Skirt and Bra is god tier.
I'm actually shocked someone else out there agrees, even if just to some extent. I have no idea what about it does it for me or when it started, but I've felt this way for a long time.
>>334689921
implying a virgin like you would know what a female butt looks like
Because the right lighting/filter can make even an ugly shit 3d model look "ugguuu kawaii oni chan"
>>334689917
>Tinklebell
>3d models
I don't think you know what 3d models are
>>334690057
i dont like square butts. i only like them round
>>334689081
because attempts at realism like this inevitably age quickly and poorly where as stylised graphics have a much longer shelf life.
Look at something like Zelda Wind Waker and compare it to Twilight Princess. (Gamecube versions though it applies to the HD ones too)
>>334690384
>twilight princess
>realism
Huh?
>>334689739
It's a common feeling. Clothing leaves more to the imagination and can draw the eye.
>>334690572
It's certainly a more realistic take on visuals than Wind Waker, which was the point.
Clearly, it's not Crysis
>>334690384
Wind waker looks like shit compared to every other cell shaded game at the time.
>>334689653
THICK
>>334690676
Hardly, considering the aesthetic of the game and the designs of a lot of the NPCs.
Twilight Princess certainly has a darker, less whimsical artstyle than Wind Waker (and that's not a difficult thing to do) but it's certainly nowhere near "realistic" by any stretch of the word.
>>334690738
Because that model and the surroundings of equal quality alone would take a hour of intensive loading to even be playable, and nothing else.
So unless you feel like using military grade CPUs and hard drives, and two Titan Xs, you aren't getting it.
Due to pure amount of draw distance alone, current PCs can't even do Toy Story 1.
>>334690738
that's just wider hips anon, there nothing thick about anything here
>>334689921
Yoko is infuriatingly hot.
>>334689898
>Vesperiababbys
When are you going to kill yourselves?
>>334689081
Possibly because it takes ten times the effort for a relatively small gain.
>>334689570
ILLYA CANT BE ThIS CUTE, SAUCE NAOW
>>334690809
MUH DICK
It's cheaper to have 2d animation look good than 3d animation.
Cheap 3d animation looks like hot garbage.
>>334690738
Thick lovers are the new furries.
Prove me wrong, you can't.
>>334691360
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0
>>334689081
If the model is detailed like this anyway it'll like this will take forever to render out even a few scenes. I doubt nips have the render farms for it. From what i understand they work from their laptops. The change up will be to drastic biz pipeline wise and wont even be worth it since webs dont like change.
>>334691449
But that's not cheap. That has state of the art graphics and animations. Just look at how incredible it looks.
>>334691230
Custom Meido 3D Deux
>>334691407
Liking thick women is perfectly natural though. Furfaggotry isn't.
>>334689319
Why tales team, why
>>334690963
I said absolutely nothing of the gameplay which I admittingly did love. But please tell me how Vesperia isn't objectively the best looking Tales to date. Both Xillias and Zestria looked like piss.
>>334692025
Plus to add to this why would you be proud to be so elitist of a series that's 75% garbage you actually deter pepole from playing the worthwhile ones? That's just silly.
>>334691727
>From what i understand they work from their laptops
no fucking way
test
>>334689201
>models
>too detailed
Nigger, what?
This is not a sprite where you have to put the pixel one by one. Do you have any idea how easy it is to 3D model?
>>334690921
she is a child wtf u pedophile
>>334692248
>Reverse image search
>No results
I am not sure how to feel about this.
>>334692358
Do YOU have any idea how much time takes to render a full scene with such quality models, textures, lighting etc?
Don't spout bullshit if you yourself don't know nothing about what you're talking about.
>>334692358
>Do you have any idea how easy it is to 3D model?
I bet you don't
>>334692358
>I have never used Zbrush in my life
>>334692358
You should really just stop while you're ahead.
>>334690384
>>334690770
>>334690676
I think TP and Halo as a serie's art style are pretty good examples of making something realistic but having it just be stylized enough to age well.
Halo 3 and TP are obviously old games, but they still look remarkable good at a not shit resolution and I would argue have aged better then the original crysis due to it being slightly stylized.
>>334689201
Not to mention this OP image also raytraced. It will look like shit when rendered with realtime game engine and lightning will be all fucked up.
>>334692358
>I think I know what I'm saying but I don't!
>>334689081
Some do, some don't. If you want them ALL to do it then you're retarded.
>>334689081
>>334689653
>>334691446
That 3d artist is not bad at all.
>>334691446
>>334691683
Tell me I can find this in a naughty SFM clip.
>>334689081
cel shading not only looks better now, it looks better in fifteen years compared to gams that aped photorealism as best as the puny hardware would allow.
>>334692358
>Do you have any idea how easy it is to 3D model?
oh anon
>>334689081
because it looks like shit
>>334692517
>rendering with a gaming rig
Your first problem. Throw that junk out the fucking window and make yourself a real computer. Then you won't be wasting weeks rendering all the wrinkles and pubes on the ballsack you carefully modeled.
>>334692358
You clearly know what you're talking about, why dont you show us how easy it is anon?
>>334692358
To be honest I have felling that things required to make acceptable models are bit more common than ones required for sprites
>>334689081
Cel shaded models are 3D you idiot.
>anime games
Who the fuck cares?
>make character with a bra
>make a braless version without changing the breasts in any way
Triggered as fuck.
Anyone have any good 3D model porn?
Only stuff I can usually find are MMD or SFM or videos where they get fucked by some disgusting ugly alien or bara beast
>>334689653
That's not real thick!
>>334692517
>Do YOU have any idea how much time takes to render a full scene with such quality models, textures, lighting etc?
You know that a 3d modelers / artists that does professional works usually use workstation video cards that have an insane amount of video memory, right? And they most likely have 1 gig PCI-E SSD, too.
http://wccftech.com/amd-firepro-w9100-32-gddr5/
>>334693304
I've seen the same team as this work on a really shitty sister one, it was done soooooo badly
>>334693304
s-source
>>334693304
source?
>watching some new anime on netflix
>they are made with computers using cel shaded 3d models
>the animations are still stuck in a sub 15-20 fps
>>334693516
16fps is the best framerate for getting the full experience while also having it feel cinematic
>>334693304
how the fuck
source?
>>334693516
Ajin?
>>334693463
Even the top render farms take days for minutes or less of cgi
>>334693479
>>334693497
>>334693686
I wish I could see your faces when you downlond the whole thing ans discover that te webm is literally the only good thing about this set.
>>334691927
>Liking thick women
Absolute cuck.
>>334693479
>>334693497
>>334693686
some shitty japanese game
>>334689081
because the cel shaded bulllshit is as close to anime styled you can get
>>334693748
That's what I felt about the entire Tinklebell series
>>334689081
because 2D is not meant to be 3D
>>334693479
>>334693497
>>334693686
http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE160103.html
>>334693724
Not him, but I really like the parts in Ajin where the it gets fx-heavy and the frame rate drops. Reminds me of MGS3 cutscene fps drops on the PS2.
>>334692980
You can find this in a naughty SFM clip.You can't
>>334689081
because Cel shading has charm.
>>334689319
such a good comparison.
>>334693516
sidonia no kishi did this
still not sure if i like it
it's cool for the space scenes but it's like 90% not space scenes
arts' completely different from the manga
>>334693516
is it bbk/brnk?
>>334693724
Ajin and Knights of Sidonia, althugh I dropped KoS after a few episodes. Ajin seems a bit decent, even if it lacks a person to root for.
>>334689679
Cel Shading looks nice in a few stills, but some of these games look derpy as fuck in motion.
>tfw we will never get pixar tier porn
sfm is fucking huge but it hurts me to think of the things possible with todays technology.
>>334694584
Not until realtime raytracing.
>>334694584
>inb4 kickstarter for pixar-tier porn
>>334694661
>supply & demand
>>334694258
The real world looks "derpy as fuck" in motion.
Grabbing stills of random shit isn't proving anything.
>>334694960
>The real world looks "derpy as fuck" in motion.
Isn't the point of cel-shaded style to avoid looking realistic?
>>334689081
You do realise this is literally just a model for a statue or a figure, right? It's been modelled in an actual pose instead of T or A pose with limbs stretched out, so it'd probably be hard as fuck to rig or animate.
Look at the amount of detail as well, it's probably sculpted and would have way too many vertices/edges/faces for it to be reasonably rendered and animated in a game. Game models are literally made to be as low-detail as possible with maybe a few edge loops for things like elbows or knuckles bending properly. Everything else is down to textures and lighting.
>>334692358
>Do you have any idea how easy it is to 3D model?
Yes: it isn't
>>334695108
Look at a sports magazine, every action shot will look fairly goofy.
Granted, both of those are fairly awkward it has nothing to do with the cell shading. You can take a lot of games and freeze frame them at the right moment to make them look awkward.
>>334689081
Cell shading is barely used anymore though. It's mostly all that shitty 3D doll looking stuff that has caught on like your picture. It's been in quite a downfall since the PS2 era. Only Shounen inspired games really even use it now.
Which is a shame since it looks very damn good with todays tech.
>>334692358
Pixel games in the past usually took less than 9 months. Modern HD 3D games takes at least 2 years most take about 3 to 4 years of development or a massive team of artists.
>>334695108
motion in general, whether real or surreal, looks weird as fuck
also
>cherrypicking
I can do the same thing too anon
>>334696171
>millia's legs
too good
>>334691727
>render farms
Video games aren't prerendered
>>334696149
Most people see it as cartoonish, and therefore for kids. A realistic artstyle is more "mature".
Shit sucks, but as long as this is the norm most developers won't take a risk in making games with alternate graphics.
>>334696434
she's perfection
>>334689081
>Why don't Japanese studios use proper 3D models for their anime-styled games instead of that celshading bullshit?
Because 3D models style and cell shading are two completely different things and don`t cancel each other maybe?!
Cell shading is a render method(a way to paint/draw things) and not a way to sculpt a 3D model.
In order to reach Anime looking graphics you need a 3D model that was sculpt to look like an anime AND the cell shading render method to color the model in the proper anime way.
Otherwise,you gonna have some creepy looking character like Star ocean or XCX.
>>334689679
>>334689081
>>334689750
Do you guys realize that cell shading games are in 3D and not 2D right?
The way you speak implies that you think sprites are used in cell shading games when in fact like >>334697007 said cell shading is basically a way to make 3D models be colored as if it was a 2D cartoon/anime but it is still 3D.
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>>334692770
>>334689201
>WHAT IS texture baking.
>>334696171
that flounder face is supposed to look good?
>>334695958
There is a difference between making funny faces in action and looking like QUALITY. It's not trying to simulate real-life, it's just fucking up at looking like a decent character model.
>>334697002
all gums
>>334689081
But Anon detail models.
Animators, Why hasn't the person who sculpted this actually animated it.
Optimizors. This is to high poly for any engine without downing and normals.
Shader writers, Alright.
Textures, BRB getting my main.
Physcis writers, Its hard but its do-able.
Riggers. This took like 5 mins. LOL
Skinner's. I've entered the fifth cycle of hell and i still don't see the exit.
Game designer. I remember a time when i made games.
Game programmer. I love that i don't need to write an engine in c++ because that's for plebs.
>>334693803
>not liking thick child bearing hips
>being a low test faggot
>calling other people cucks
Wew lad
>>334691407
Thick women are real human beings and it's natural and healthy to be attracted to women with child-bearing hips. Furfags are detective anomalies and destined to have their genes wiped out by natural selection.
>>334698184
All women can produce children faggot.
Did you skip biology?
It's like you're catering to the Feminist cucks saying you should like fat women.
Fucking cuck.
>>334699009
>even barren women can produce children
Ibn. Simply Ibn.
>>334699281
Are you on about the trans women you like so much?
>>334699361
Not that guy you replied to.
>>334699281
>Ibn. Simply Ibn.
good meme brother
>>334692358
I know it's bait, but I remember my cousin learning 3D modelling, bought tonnes of magazines and a few textbooks I could look through. There's a lot to be half decent, and even then it's only through mastering a few programs when the best know and use a mix of techniques.
>>334698184
Thick doesn't describe hips you nignog.
It's Wide hips.
Thick is used to describe parts of the body where fat can be deposited.
And for fuck's sake the whole thick thing was started for Chubby because landwhale fetishists took chubby after Fat started to hit planetary levels.
>>334690274
tyrone please, dont you have a bike to steal?
>>334692663
Yeah Halo 3 holds up really well.
>>334699927
thick is basically an evolution of Healthy. Well, I say evolution, but it's the same thing but with a different name. And yeah, chub threads now usually get dumped with obese fatties and it is disgusting. Will enjoy the thick ride while it lasts, just as I enjoyed healthy and chub.
>>334689653
OOOHH
It's kind of sad, that cel shading has been a thing since 1997, and yet it only FINALLY looks good with games like Guilty Gear Xrd and Transformers Devastation.
>>334689081
We can put that model in a game nowadays, maybe even render it close to that fidelity in real time.
You won't have any frame time left for anything else, so enjoy model viewer 3d.
