Why are Japanese indie games always better than American ones?
>>334651034
evidence when?
>>334651467
Cave story
>i like this type of game
>THIS MEANS THAT THIS TYPE IS BETTER THAN ANY OTHER TYPE, NO EXCEPTIONS
Every. Single. Thread.
Because they don't rely on handouts and they aren't usually perpetually offended opinionated twitter/kickstarter faggots
This is because only the good japanese indie games get popular enough to transport overseas, which leads to a false assumption that every indie japanese game is good.
This is like saying every american indie game is good because you have only played good ones.
Dwarf Fortress is the best indie game though.
sachiko we beg of you
>>334651034
Shovel Knight and Cave Story are pretty on par with each other.
Difference is that JP indevs arent SJW cuck faggots though.
Corpse party came out on 3DS? Since when?
Did I miss something?
>>334651034
Because they make games how they like them.
because lolis
>>334655413
I know that GIF and it is not cute
>>334655413
>not the gif
I'm disappointed in you, Anon.
>>334655413
No, fuck you.
>>334655413
>not knife pudding loli
shit tier
>>334651034
Japanese games suck, they should make better indie games like Fez
it's not written in stone, but usually JP games don't have a hidden agenda. They have 2 purposes: make money, or be fun. Often times they try to be both. There's no politics, most don't try to shove a story in your face, and the best ones understand that gameplay takes precedence over all other elements of a game.
Pic related, my favorite indie game of 2015 surpassed every movie and shooter and subpar platformer that came out.
>>334655932
Oh.
>>334655932
I like it
>>334653265
Dude, compare any 20 Japanese developed indie games with any 20 N.A. developed indie games. Then compare the N.A. developed indie games with any 20 European developed indie games.
The N.A. indie games fucking SUCK.
Japanese hobbyists are like miniature professionals.
Because you don't see bad jp indie games, so you believe all of them a re good.
>>334655932
im scared of anime now
help
I dont play indie games unless they are free. Even then I usually dont.
>>334655903
>but usually JP games don't have a hidden agenda.
Neither do western indie games.
You seeing "hidden agendas" in them says more about you then it does about the games.
>>334655932
so this is what happens inside my computer every time i save a loli picture
now i understand why canada made it illegal
>>334656739
I'm just saying. For every Shovel Knight, we get Firewatch, Gone Home, Depression Quest, and so on.
Of course, these pretentious movie gmes also exist in japan, but I don't see them as often in the indie scene. AAA gaming scene, I see them plenty.
>>334656535
>Because you don't see bad jp indie games
NEO AQUARIUM - The King of Crustaceans. It's on steam, it's made by a couple of Japanese nobodies, and it's not good.
>>334656936
this guy have a pixiv?
I'm not buying that game. It scared the shit out of me the first time.
>>334656934
Neither Gone Home or Firewatch have any "hidden agenda" beyond telling their story.
The agenda of Depression Quest, that is to say demonstrating to people without depression what it can be like, is not hidden at all.
>>334656936
i like the brief panty shot in this one
>>334656936
>>334655932
>>334655413
Da fug is all that blue shit in Naomi's hair?
>>334657229
Their hidden agenda is to minimize gameplay in favor of telling a narrative. It's the same reason why I vehemently despise Metal Gear Movie and anything made by Kojima. Also, """""games"""""" like The Order 1886, which are glorified story segments connected by quick time events. It's missing the point of the medium.
Japan has a thing called Comiket
They sell doujinshi games there
It's not bad
>>334656936
man source this shit quick before the thread gets deleted
>>334651034
*ahem*
>>334656356
I feel like NA indie developers go into make a game with the mindset that they want to develop a game that will make them a lot of money. On the contrary, Japanese developers go in with the intent to make a fun game.
>>334657532
That's not an agenda.
That's just you not likeing narrative heavy games.
>>334651034
Because only the cream of the crop make it internationally. It's called selection bias.
>why are japanese games always better than western games
Gee anon i don't know
Because all western indie devs are a bunch of whiny, self-important twats.
>>334657840
Wow, you just proved OP's point right. Well done, fag.
>Those portraits
LMAO, i thought it was a fucking joke or some prank, they actually changed the fucking perfectly fine good portraits for this gigantic turd.
What in the fuck were they thinking.
>>334657912
>narrative heavy GAME
Do you seriously not see this as a massive contradiction? a video game is supposed to tell the story THROUGH the gameplay, it shouldn't INTERRUPT the gameplay. I mean yeah, sure, you can make the game a cinematic artsy fartsy novel, but does that make it a good game?
>>334651034
Wait what? Since when is there a 3ds corpse party?
I played the psp version a long ass time ago. How does this one compare?
>>334657767
It might be vvindowsme. My google-fu is weak.
>>334658240
http://gematsu.com/2016/04/corpse-party-pc-launches-april-25-3ds-version-coming-north-america-summer
>>334658227
No it's not. Many Role Playing Games are pretty much about creating a narrative with the mechanics existing merelt to facilitate that.
So you don't like them? That's fine. But don't be a douchebag and yell at people who do about how they're not REAL GAMES.
>>334658193
because the pc version is the 2008 game not the 2011 remake.
>>334656356
name 20 nip indie games
>>334655932
>>334656936
>>334658609
Does it count if I just start listing all the Touhou games?
>jp indie devs
Just want to make a game and share it to other people who'll enjoy it
>most western indie devs
Shoves whatever agenda they have down your throat
Minimal gameplay
Pretentious fucks who can't get into the movie industry and settled with video games
Cares more about recognition and e-celeb drama
>>334658436
>No it's not. Many Role Playing Games are pretty much about creating a narrative with the mechanics existing merelt to facilitate that.
And as a result 90% of modern RPGs are glorified movies. Look at Dragon Age: Inquisition. Look at Mass Effect 3. Look at Final Fantasy 10 and Kingdom Hearts. Unskippable cutscenes EVERYWHERE, and they interrupt the basic gameplay constantly.
When you go into a video game, I'd expect gameplay to greet me, instead of a half hour of voice actors narrating CGI cutscenes. To each their own, but I'm just saying.
>>334651034
Japanese indie game developers know who they are making games for. They accept they're doing it for a niche audience and will try to give them what they want.
Western indie game developers want their game to be the next big hit, they want it to be bought by the masses. In reality, the games would only be played by a niche audience anyway but they keep screwing them over in favor of the general public who doesn't care about them.
>>334658817
What about all the Touhou spinoffs that aren't made by Zun?
>>334658772
I was talking about Tabletop RPGs like FATE
>>334658941
no cave story and nothing touhou related, how bout that
>>334658962
And if there's more story than actual interactivity, then I can argue that table top RPGs are less interactive than those multi-ending books from elementary school. Being able to at least influence the game defines the genre, the medium, the very essence.
>>334659041
>no cave story
>no touhou as a franchise
Why?
>good luck naming 20 jap indie games haha!
>b-but only ones i approve of
>>334659041
>how bout that
I'd start listing some but you'd probably never heard of them. Or I'd list something like Tsukihime and you'd bitch that it doesn't count now that the people who made it have built an actual company and are no longer indy.
>>334658772
Last time I checked Kingdom Hearts have the skip option. And in my case, those cutscenes didn't interrupt gameplay.
>>334659109
how about listing 10 then since 20 is too hard for you
>>334655903
>Putting all the Nintendo games at 4 or lower.
Nice bias.
>>334659298
Not the anon you responded to. I'm just curious why you're disregarding perfectly acceptable answers.
>>334659298
weak bait, m'lad
>>334651034
The Japanese indie scene is nowhere near as bombastic as the US or EU indie scenes. Thus, their niche is more focused on making a game for the sake of making a game, not about making money.
On the same token, Japanese games rarely see the same instance of mainstream appeal. Though I'm sure this is more to do with how PC gaming is severed from the rest of the gaming market in Japan; Cave Story only became relevant as it is because of the western scene acknowledging it, it sure as hell wouldn't go anywhere if it had to depend entirely on Japan. Pixel is among the few Japanese indie devs to have a license to make games for console, which is a badge of honor.
tldr Japan's hatred for viewing PC as a 'viable' platform is why Japanese indies are unique.
>>334659298
Recettear
Chantelise
Azutama
Azu Cola
Azu Bleach
Ele Paper Action
Tumiki Fighter
Gun Roar
Warning Forever
Super Marisa Land
>>334659249
>>how bout that
How about that?
>Tsukihime
a vn
and I won't hurt your feelings if you list something nobody heard of or have a company
>>334659396
I'm not dismissing answers, I only got Tsukihime and Touhou(not counting its sequels/spinoffs/derivatives)
>>334659576
Thanks
>>334658609
Bunny must die
100% OJ
acceleration of Suguri
Sora
Cave story
Chantalise
Recettear
Fortune summoners
QP shooting Dangerous
Wadanohara
Fairy breeze
Exceed
gundemonium
Hatoful Boyfriend
Ether Vapor
Touhou
Cherry tree high
ReFlex
They bleed pixeld
Croixleur Σ
>>334659340
Refer to the glossary at the top.
>>334659735
>I'm not dismissing answers
>no cave story and nothing touhou related
Uhhhh, so why do they not count again?
>>334659735
>Thanks
I listed a Touhou game in my list you colossal retard. GJ.
>>334659735
>not counting its sequels/spinoffs/derivatives
But why?
I get you can count the mainline games as one but the fighting games and other derivatives are done by different indie devs. Why don't they count?
>>334659817
Because cave story and touhou are very well known
>>334659896
Okay
>>334660002
I wanna see what games the nips make and I already played half these games and im not interested in shmups
what's corpse party about?
what's the best version of it?
>>334662014
it's about ghosts
>>334651034
>Seiko has the voice of some old hag
What were they thinking with that casting?
>>334655903
>Fatal Frame V above average-tier.
So much bullshit in one image...
>>334664261
It's below average-tier, Anon.
>>334662014
Spooky shit.
PC, once the HD artwork from the iOS version and 3DS sprites/extra content are modded in.
>>334664097
they wanted a crazy lesbian so they went and got the best one in the business
