What's the most autistic video game? My friend and I are having this debate and I say the most autistic game ever is Factorio and he says it's Minecraft. Any other candidates for the title of Autism Simulator?
>>334617530
Your favorite game.
>>334617530
Nigger please.
Dwarf Fortress, any pre-2004 roguelike, classic grand strategy games...all much more autismal than Factorio or Minecraft.
Factorio and Minecraft are formative games for young autists so they make a big impression, but there's much more abstruse shit out there.
I dunno, but I can get pretty autistic with some of the Anno games.
Depends. Are we talking about the meme meaning of autism or the actual meaning of autism?
Aurora 4X, maybe some monster wargame like War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition
>>334617530
>give this game a try
>all that micromanagement
I'm pretty sure every person who likes this is either a shill or an autist
>>334618208
>I'm a basic bitch and a idiot
>Therefore everyone else is stupid
hmm...
What are some good old rogue-likes?
I only know nethack.
I like Minecraft, City Builders, 4X games and any Grand Strategy. Do I have the autism?
Posting on /v/ is the most autistic game.
>>334618542
You just like games that take time and dedication.
The only really autistic games are the Press X to win ones.
>>334618371
Sorry but I'm not buying your autism simulator
>>334618124
The meme, although the actual meaning would be just as interesting.
>>334617929
I've never found DF to be as autistic as I did factorio or minecraft, but I guess I never got to the upper-level gameplay either.
>>334617929
Nigger please.
>>334617530
Aurora 4x.
>>334618467
Rogue Legacy
Binding of Isaac
Faster than Light
Enter the Gungeon
Risk of Rain (Sort of)
>>334619135
>old
>>334617530
Desert Bus
>>334618467
Spelunky
Nuclear Throne
>>334619219
Dwarf Fortress adventure mode
>>334619135
:^)
>>334617530
>>334618724
You win the thread! Kill yourself, my man.
>>334618467
You could go with ADOM, it's slightly lighter than Nethack and more in hack n' slash style.
If you're just starting with roguelikes or want something quick, try DooM roguelike, it's fast paced, surprisingly complex (but not very complex for a roguelike) and it has frigging strafing.
Even faster and shorter roguelike is Berserk! the roguelike. Just combat. That's all.
Angband is an old school rogue, can't remember much.
IVAN (Iter vehemens ad necem) is sadistic and humorous roguelike with dismemberment
There's just so many of them.
>>334618208
>I didn't like it so no one else can like it
Fuck off, I love the micromanagement, building a factory is satisfying as fuck
Factorio GOTYAY, give me industry, give me logistics, give me production chains
>>334619782
That game is good
>>334619135
All of them are rogue-lites not rogue-likes.
>never heard of Factorio before
>friend messaging me asking me if i'll play Factorio with him whenever he does if he buys it for me
>agree and he buys it for me
>don't get what to do, very confused
>learn how to play within the hour
>learn quickly that Factorio is truly an autism simulator
>continue to play until 3am building autism items
How exactly do you define "autistic game"?
Kinda important to know, or it'll just be a throwup between complex games and block building games.
>>334618152
>War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition
I've been playing War in the East for a few weeks now. Its pretty fun
>>334618467
IVAN and Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup
TIS-100 is pretty autistic but it is really fun
>>334617530
Well, factorio started as a minecraft mod, so you're both down the same track. Also there's simply no comparison, once you start getting deeper into shit like dwarf fortress you open a pandora box of purely autistic games like infinifactory and spacechem.
Also >>>/vg/egg
Wargame allows for some nice autism, with optimizing your forces and tactics
>>334620346
i kinda want to buy this, but everytime i see any gameplay i have no fucking clue whats happening
>>334618467
dungeon crawl stone soup is amazing
and pixel dungeon its style is same as that of classic RLs turn based but grafix are good
also you should visit /rlg/ on vg
>>334620567
Don't worry, people pick late game puzzles to show off
The game has a good progression and learning feels natural
I'd recommend it
>>334620109
>>334618467
I'm a longtime Angband player and its a very easy roguelike to get into. Its also not stressfull at all since all floors reload and you can farm equipment. You're still not going to win though. I've played it for probably 10 years now and I've never been close.
>>334619070
Current answer
>>334619302
Also correct answer
Everyone else in this thread are wrong
>>334617929
>any pre-2004 roguelike
Nothing autistic about roguelikes, including dwarf fortress adventure mode. You're exploring and killing things like in all RPGs. Using ascii graphics doesn't inherently make something "autistic". Complex game systems, excruciating micromanagement, impenetrable interfaces, all contribute to the assburgers level of a game.
If you want to stretch the definition of "game" and go all the way, go play TIS-100. That's if you can.
Minecraft with super autistic mods like GregTech or some of the survival stuff.
A U R O R A
God I love Aurora
>>334620753
You can just install bobs mods in factorio and kill yourself trying to optimize this shit
>>334620806
Love those 5s turns, did he fix that yet?
>>334618208
That's just the thing, there's only micromanagement involved until you have proper automation set in place. Then it's just a matter of maintaining systems and planning for their longevity.
Lots of people approach factorio the wrong way, like there was some fag here who swore it was faster to build things by hand than to build assemblers, and he swore by it.
I guess it's the type of game that just doesn't work for some people.
>>334618208
>micromanagement
>you literally make shit to automate everything for you and you do nothing
Lol wut
OP is right
>boring bland Factorio somehow has people with 100s of hours
>those people shit on Stardew and people posting about it here because they literally hate fun
runner up for most autistic video game would have to be WoW private servers
>>334617530
The term you're looking for is "complex".
Pic related is an autistic game
>>334619070
Aurora for sure, shit looks like accountant software
>>334620968
I like both Factorio and Stardew
>>334620958
none of those games are "for autists" though
autist games are shit like sonic the hedgehog, starfox, minecraft, etc.
it's kinda sad and embarrassing that you think a game that requires you to use your brain a little bit is an "autism game"TIS-100 teaches you how to program in fucking assembly, it's edutainment
>>334617530
Neither of those require more than a certain level of autism. If they did they wouldn't be so popular.
They're both fun, but not that autistic.
>>334621000
I think factorio, TS-100 and all those games are for functioning autists. Sanic is for cripples who can't function in society.
>>334618467
Infra Arcana
Sil
Doom RL
Brogue
Forays into Norrendrim
Caves of Qud
Cogmind
>>334618208
>not finding satisfaction by making a complicated series of machines work together in perfect efficency
>>334618467
IA
Poschengband
DCSS
Sil
>>334621120
>autist games are shit like sonic the hedgehog, starfox, minecraft, etc.
You are confusing games with autistic fanbases with autistic games.
I wonder if Combat Mission games qualify? They seem pretty interesting to me.
>>334620136
No lategame without mods.
Not gotyayayay
>>334619782
For fucks sake the game gets up to shit like that? The parts that i'm on aren't nearly that autistic and they're fucking me.
>>334621147
>>334621220
Sil is trash compared to Angband or ToME (Tales of Middle Earth, not shit ass Maj'Eyal), Caves of Qud literally costs money when the roguelike genre has been free for over 20 years, and DCSS is casual as fuck and not a proper roguelike.
>>334620958
>La Mulana
>Wizardry
>complex
Lolnope
I'm far too impatient for half of that list and Wizardry isn't much more complex than a JRPG. A cheeky and mischievous JRPG, but a JRPG nonetheless.
>>334621138
>functioning autists
Those study STEM degrees.
>for cripples who can't function in society.
That's videogames in general.
>>334621390
>DCSS is casual as fuck and not a proper roguelike
It IS casual, but it's still a roguelike even if you don't like it.
>Sil is trash compared to Angband of ToME
It's simple, but still good. And comparing them to Angband of all things just makes you seem elitist.
>>334621004
Perfect for playing on work time!
>>334621390
>Sil is trash compared to Angband or ToME
You're trash, since you prefer bloat over of elegance.
I enjoyed Factorio for a weekend it was not autistic at all
>>334618467
IVAN is god tier.
The Alien one is extremely good too.
>>334621390
Remember when DCSS was good and not bogged down by devs insisting on removing any traces fun?
>>334621374
Late-game puzzles in SpaceChem are usually easy to compartmentalize. You look at it and it seems like a huge problem, but step back a bit and you can see it's really just a bunch of little problems.Especially on very repetitive molecules like that, you really only need to make like a quarter of it and making the rest is just a result of repetition.
What is that one roguelike set in iron age Finland about surviving?
It looked neat
>>334621853
>>334621853
Unreal world
>>334621981
Is it fun?
>>334621853
Unreal World.
>>334622004
Not really a roguelike, but it's pretty entertaining.
>>334621559
Is it good? Better than HoI3?
>>334621853
Oh yeah, totally forgot that one!
The Unreal World.
>>334620643
is there a guide to how the commands actually work or is it mostly experimentation? I found the manual's description to be pretty lacking
>>334622113
Honestly the manual is really all you need, it totally explains what each does
What specifically are you having trouble with?
>>334621507
It's called a coffee break roguelike if it's casual then, which is significantly different from a regular roguelike.
Roguelikes are extremely difficult and asspunishing. Coffee break roguelikes are not, and can be beaten in a much shorter amount of time (see DCSS, where I ascended a GrFi of Okawaru>TSO in roughly five and a half hours with all 15 runes)
Will ulillillia ever finish it?
>>334622203
5 and a half hours is a pretty long coffee break fampai
>>334622238
what the fuck is this garbage invading my eyes right now
>>334622203
>roughly five and a half hours
must have been one really big cup of coffee
>>334622310
Get the fuck out and never come back, this is the single newest thing I have ever seen on this god damn site in the 10 years that I've wasted here.
>>334622449
shut your fucking mouth idiot
>>334622238
He got a job.
>>334618208
>I don't like it, therefore nobody does
>the entire universe revolves around me
>>334618208
>micromanagement
The whole point of the game is that you start out micromanaging everything but then use the shit you make to start automating everything instead so you can make even bigger more complex shit easily.
>>334622085
Its extremely complex. One round takes ages.
>>334622296
5 and a half hours is also really short compared to ascending in nethack which takes weeks
Am I the only one who can't stop starting over in this stupid game and never actually finishes anything?
>>334622310
Do you not know ulillillia?
How new are you?
He even wrote a book:
>The white background suddenly changes to that of a scene 50 meters above the Golden Gate Bridge... Ten miles west, barely visible, is a large ship hauling several containers heading toward the bridge for docking. The scenery is in true 3D. A 20 mph wind blows with cumulus humilis clouds 1/4 scattered above.
>>334622296
>>334622332
Definition
There is no formal definition of whether a roguelike is coffee-break or not. There may be even people that consider NetHack one of those. The above message by Artagas might be a starting point. General guidelines might look like this:
One can jump into the game as is - no reading of manuals, no learning of the keybindings
The game is simple to learn (but may be hard to master)
The game focuses on quality of elements instead of quantity
It may be completed in a time period that would be considered "short" - something like up to a few hours
A typical gameplay session is below an hour
Also the following might be considered valid but not exactly necessary features:
Screen sized levels
Limited inventory
No need/option to save game
http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=Category:Coffeebreak_roguelikes
What were you blabbing about, again?
>>334620136
give me back my fucking life.
>>334623045
A minute-long time lapse occurs where each second is 24 minutes. Knuckles remains inside his house at all times. The humans eat for a half second in bed then play Parcheesi and Uno on a table appearing in the house's center. Three small, fancy, cushioned, yellow (FFF0D20) chairs are around the table 120° apart. Ivan takes the northwest chair, Tu the east, and Tyler the southwest. The two-feet-in-diameter table has a fancy frosted glass top. Parcheesi lasts for three seconds. The humans read a book for 1.5 seconds and go to sleep. The light dims to 25 lumens, moving to the northwest corner and remains for 22 seconds. It returns to the center position and brightens to the original 1200 lumens. Breakfast is served, taking a half second, then the humans play Yahtzee for two seconds.
>>334623003
Time required to ascend isn't part of the definition of roguelike.
Plus nethack pros have a better rate of ascension than dcss pros because nethack has far fewer random elements. Once you know everything in nethack you can approach it methodically and win nearly every time. With dcss the rng is far more likely to fuck you.
Yeah, DCSS IS easier and shorter, but it's still a roguelike. If you don't like it go yell at /rlg/ until they stop playing it :^)
>There is no formal definition of whether a roguelike is coffee-break or not. There may be even people that consider NetHack one of those
>>334620806
I tried getting into that once.
I failed miserably, and I've been playing Dorf Fort since 2008.
Ok since we're talking about micro management and Meme autism: I thinking about buying "Command: Modern Air / Naval Operations" - is it good?
WHile there are many Autistic games, the players are usually the defining autistic factor.
Pic related, Nethack guy who played the same character for a real world year.
>>334622751
Sounds nice, but how good is it?
>>334623025
I personally enjoy the early part of factorio a lot. When you are trying to optimize walking distance between resources and planning out where all your stuff should go in the future. Bee lining for a special tech that changes how you build the thing.
>>334625026
i used to think bots were cheating but in hindsight belts are like burner miners, doomed to be replaced by something better
>>334625297
>he doesn't upgrade his belts to be lubed and super fast
Don't you have tanks and tanks of lubricant just sitting around doing nothing?
>>334625297
Liquid Storage Drones when?
Then we can phase out almost all pipes and just have bots do EVERYTHING.
>>334626306
belts use more cpu cycles than bots anon
>>334620739
Ooooohhhh you just burned that nigger HARD yo
>>334619302
>>334620718
Desert Bus isn't an autistic game, it's just a boring one. Penn Jillette and whoever else was involved conceived it to be a way to experience the most boring reality they could comprehend: the life of the bus driver in charge of driving the regular bus from Las Vegas to LA through miles and miles of barren desert.
>>334626673
>he doesn't have a gigga nigga CPU
How do I gitgud at DCSS?
I have 2 wins but they were both 3 rune tabhards.
I want to play something that isn't a smashy bash o+tab, but every time I reach lair as a caster all the micromanagement just kills me and I can't be bothered to continue because it's so much hassle.
>>334620534
neat
>>334629843
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
>>334620958
Dominions isn't really that compelx unless you want it to be
>>334621220
>Payed Poschengband
>Got to the very last floor with the Serpent of Chaos
>Ran out of items and had to retreat
>Jobbed to a powerful unique summoning powerful uniques
It's not fucking fair it takes hours upon hours to get anywhere in that damn game.
>>334622310
Pure, 100%, distilled and aged autism.
>>334617530
Dwarf Fortress or SS13.
>>334619135
Not a single one of them is even remotely similar to rogue.
But still good ,3, 6/10
>>334619135
Calling any of those rogue likes is like calling Destiny an MMO
>>334633662
neither of those are autistic
space station 13 is incredibly autistic
The most autistic players on the station are undoubtedly the MoMMIs
>scuttle around the station setting up the power grid, repairing hull breaches
>not allowed to interact with other players besides passive aggressively buzzing and beeping at them
>they are literally known as autism crabs
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/MoMMI
