Who is building all this arcitecture? Is there ever any downtime between post-apoclyptic phases?
What started the undead curse in the first place?
Was any of this ever just "normal"?
How does Andre live so long, DaS3 item descriptions mention 1 and 2 both in the past tense. Judging by all the drastic changes that take place, must be a long ass time between games.
Is there any thought to any of this?
I was expecting some closure, some answers at least. I know we still have the DLC.
is the scimitar bad again? I know they fucked it over in ds2, and I'm starting to think they fucked it over again in ds3.
Proving once again, that Demon's Souls is the best.
There are periods of hundreds/thousands of years
between the fire dying
Death and life is a concept created by the first flame. Since it goes out everything turns undead after dying once since death is left unchecked.
Yes.
He's Andre
reminder that if you didn't go Deprived and ever summoned another player on your first playthrough you're a casual
>>334449735
deprived is the only way to go, really.
>expecting anything to make sense in a dark souls game
I can't imagine wasting my life trying to make sense of it. Sometimes I think miyazaki is telling us he has the story all sorted in his head to make people believe there is a hidden meaning to everything in DS3.
>>334449735
Reminder that Dark Souls is not hard, and that choosing not to use fun things does not make you cool.
Also, Deprived fucking sucks in this game, just as it did in DaS and DeS. DaS2 is the only game worth playing Deprived.
>>334449735
Sorcerer is worse than Deprived anyway.
Andre's an illusion in 3
>>334449581
So one thing I never understood was how the darksign works. Are you branded with the sign before you die or after you die? If it's the former, do you eventually go hollow from existing or does death trigger hollowing?
>>334450402
You have to die to start going hollow/go hollow.
The dark sign is something every human has but only shows up and does anything once the undead curse starts to happen.
>>334450402
It just showed up on dead people in the opening cutscene of dark souls one.
Also you apparently go hollow faster if you lose purpose, and I guess dying a lot also makes it go faster since it weakens your spirits.
The weird thing is that there was one npc in DS1 that resolved to do nothing and only went hollow when he decided to do something about Frampt.
>>334449206
I actually always wonder who the fuck builds these cities and gothic cathedral buildings. Like the Lothric city. Where the fuck did the people go? I know it was mostly undead settlement but they can't all have hollowed that fast right? And everything is crumbling and ill-kept and not maintained.
>>334450536
So during these apocalyptic sequences of the games where the fire starts dying out and people become zombies, what exactly happens to those who 'survive' the events of the games when the fire is rekindled? Does the curse lift and allow people to die normally again and allow people to rebuild or what?
Will we ever see a sci-fi themed souls game lads?
>>334449886
>i..it..its sucks guys! i swear! Knight is better!
>>334450985
Well DaS 3 takes a different approach than DaS 2 did.
In DaS 2 it admits that the age of dark/even fire waning means that civilization just rebuilds over and over with no links.
DaS 3 says that either the dark ending is never canon or that the age of dark is barely anything and kingdoms can survive it.
More than anything keep in mind the area where you play the game is literally magic bullshit ground zero close as you can get to the source of all existence so what you see there might not be a great depiction of what life is like in other lands even at their worst.
>>334450985
I assume the non-cursed humans are living in places like Astora and Catarina, kingdoms with cities not full of monsters, hollowed and demons. And anyone infected with the dark sign is sent on a suicidal quest to whatever land Dark Souls is set at.
>>334451168
Hell, even Time itself is fucked. You have no way of knowing if what you're doing is even in the Present. You're fighting and talking to people from thousands of years apart possibly
>>334451215
>be assigned as asshole who has to escort prisoner to undead asylum
>the bird always steals my lunch
>Asylum demon tries to tempt me with souls
>know that if I fail and die, I might be undead and have to stay in this shit hole
>might be forever lost in fog
I really need to know, is there any way to see how much of a piece of equipment you have when buying from a shop, I can't find it anywhere and it was really easy to see in past games
>>334450906
My take is:
When flame = alive, people live like usual, in society, being productive like any middle age era, because they can only advance so far before flame = ded, when undead curse hits and people begin to zombify and lose their minds.
Everthing goes to shit because everyone's undead, but the castles and churches and whatever from the time everyone was still cool stay there, but are rundown because undeads don't give a fuck or have the presence of mind to take care or architecture.
All they do is live in settlements, living their "lives" moping around or being creepy until they go either full hollow or somehow straight up die, because apparently some do eventually (this psrt I don't get).
>>334451273
I always thought that was because time didn't exist in the age of dragons, so when the first flame had to create time it did a shit job of it.
>>334451501
Yes, it's right fucking there m8, I'd take a picture if my PC was still on. Seriously just take a closer look, it's even labeled.
>>334451047
No because this is the last one.
>the fading light of the first fire
>>334451047
I would love it.
>>334451079
Whichever class has a low stat that you don't have any intention of leveling is better.
>>334449735
I was going for deprived until I realized the luck stats is fucking trash
>>334451698
pls circle or something, I am completely fucking blind
>>334451168
I was under the impression that 2 was a sequel that takes far ahead in the future, after 1 and 3, but seeing as I can find Mirrah, Farram, and other Drangleic equipment, it makes me wonder if everything is just going down almost at the same time, just in different parts of the world (God knows how big the world of Dark Souls is after all)
>>334451525
It'd be really interesting to be in a settlement that hasn't gone to shit yet and is flooded with hollowed, monsters etc. Could be a Firelink shrine exept in a not decayed town full of normal people.
>>334451948
Oh, I guess it doesn't on weapons, but it certainly appear on consumables, on the middle screen.
The interface's kinds fucked now that I think about it. As far as I remenber, when buying amour or weapons, they don't even let you compare to what you're currently wearing.
>>334452063
It really is nothing more than just them deciding to say fuck what DaS 2 did and go in another direction.
The drang set sort of implies it's an issue of distance and not time but that's pretty much bullshit.
The only take away you need to have is that DaS 2 is ignored for the most part.
>>334449206
Andre doesn't "Live so long." Dark Souls 3 takes place a year/a few years after the PC Linked the Fire in 1. Dark Souls 2 happens decades later if the PC DOESN'T link the fire. They are two separate universes.
>>334452063
World of Dark souls must be massive. To have all these kingdoms and cities stretched out so far from eachother and all these big open mountain valley's and gultches...
So at what point does this become just dark fantasy parody? Because i was laughing my ass off at the stupid living skeleton ball
>>334452213
that's what I meant, it's clearly marked on consumables, tools, and spells, but not for gear, so it's annoying as hell trying to find out what you don't have from the huge selection of gear
why from
Real question for you lorefriends
Are Demons Souls and Bloodborne related in any way to the Dark Souls universe outside cheeky nods and reused animations?
>>334452229
You're a retard.
>>334452384
Don't be mad that you couldn't figure it out. Link the Fire = Dark Souls 3. Dark Lord = Dark Souls 2.
>>334450020
Everything and everyone is an illusion.
Time is convoluted.
Dark souls story and lore makes no sense and no one cares because it isn't important to the game.
>>334452239
Huh... Kinda like real life...
>>334452443
>>334452375
No. Demons Souls is its own thing. Bloodborne is its own thing that was almost Demons Souls related but for many reasons isn't.
They're as related to Dark Souls as Kings Field and Shadow Tower.
Most of the characters and items that people go, "well it must be the same universe bro," are also in things like Armored Core.
>>334452439
You're extremely stupid vaati.
>complete the path of the dragon
>have to fight hawkwood
>he has a million hp
>heals like 6 times
>killing him only drops 1k souls and the twinkling dragon head stone
Safe to say I cheesed this faggot fuck him
>>334449735
why dont you play blindfolded and with your feet while your at it faggot cunt
Dancer of the fridgid valley has a nice ass.
>>334449206
It's an ancient Kingdom, it was built ages ago.
Andre is undead but he has a purpose so he doesn't hollow
>>334452531
No argument against the case? It's already confirmed so you can keep shitposting if you want.
>>334452538
by the way, how do you use those stones, use is greyed out for me
>>334452568
Yes she does. I am in love with her.
I want to caress her long slender body.
>>334449439
Yes, but the double blade version is bretty good
3 takes place after 1 and 2, quite a long time. Lord of Cinder is the combination of every previous person to link the fire
Gwyn, Dark souls I PC, Dark souls 2 PC and anyone else they never really wrote a story about.
And in case you all haven't figured it out
Andre is the son of Gwyn the God of War, the fact he has lived so long and then confirms that he knew the giant from way back when kinda confirms some shenanigans.
>>334449206
If the curse makes you undead, which effectively makes you immortal, than why do people not enjoy bitchin' immortality as a means of keeping themselves from hollowing?
>>334452620
gotta be completely naked
>>334452483
Can a dog even suck Pepsi from a straw?
>dark souls 2 major story point is that the giants are all dead
>dark souls 3 there are tons of them around
?
>>334452568
Why does the bitch have that horrid gangly body? Come to think of it...why does EVERYTHING have that stretchy, taller appearance and you're just sone tiny manlet? For fuck sakes even Farrons legion goons are taller than you.
>>334452679
Uh no. The Nameless King is Gwyn's son.
>>334452653
>you will never be unnaturally tall and slender
>you will never kill undead faggots while lazily walking around
>>334452615
You have no case. You're just stupid.
>>334449735
Depraved is for casuals m8, and have completely shit stats raised to 11. Don't kid yourself you wannabe
>>334452717
Couldn't be too hard
>>334452615
>Confirmed
Except item descriptions which say things about certain NPCs from dark souls II and how they're fuckin' dead.
The fact you can find Laddersmith Gilligan's corpse in the profane capital is a good indication as well.
>>334452741
Dark Souls 2 isn't canon. Neither is Dark Souls 3 but Dark Souls 3 is MORE canon than Dark Souls 2.
>>334452717
dogs don't have lips and cannot make enough suction, so sadly not, pupper is just looking very happy
>>334452742
Because you're a humanlet who will never learn.
>>334452823
So a character can't exist in 2 different universes? Shit, somebody should tell Marvel and DC.
Hey, I was really burned by Dark Souls 2. I only realized it was so shit at like 200 hours because I was blinded by my expectations that it would eventually get better.
Metal Gear Solid V received perfect 10/10s from people who only played 20 hours of it. So, I have made a pact to not buy Dark Souls 3 unless someone has explored most of what the game has to offer and can honest to god recommend it to me as a souls fan.
There isn't any Dark Souls 2 bullshit right? Basically, has anyone here reached the 200 hour mark or discovered a general idea of what the game is like and can you recommend it to a skeptical person who was burned by DLC Souls 2: Librarian of the Last Lie?
>>334452679
but Solaire is Gwyn's son
>>334452839
Good puppet. Don't want him to get diabetes now that'll be no good.
>>334452779
>unnaturally tall
>best friend is unnaturally slender
>if we fused we'd either make slenderman or a statistically average guy
>>334452835
>dranglic armor, lucatiels mask, fume knight UGS
>not canon
it's like none of the games matter except das1
>>334452843
Well I can take comfor that we have normal body proportions and don't look like fucking freaks. Though I wouldn't mind being taller like an Abyss watcher.
>>334452865
it's the same universe
>Who is building all this arcitecture?
Various civilizations, sometimes right on the backs of the previous ones.
> Is there ever any downtime between post-apoclyptic phases?
There's quite a lot of time between faces. The fire takes time to fade, thousands upon thousands of years.
>What started the undead curse in the first place?
When Gwyn linked the first flame.
>Was any of this ever just "normal"?
During the Age of Fire everything is normal, if you consider it that.
>How does Andre live so long
Time is all sorts of fucked. Somehow Andre got really lost, and then there's the illusion of him while he is still alive according to the game.
>>334452870
Dark Souls 3 is a speed run through the ruins of Dark Souls 1. It's a quick and fast fuck that reminds you of the old days when she was tighter.
>>334451706
Uhh dude. Nah. This be the last dark souls. (Or atleast the last dark souls that miyazaki works on.) Not the last souls type game. Bloodborne was a different take on the souls type game and we'll probably get more different takes. A "cyber souls" is definitely a possibility.
>>334452778
Nah in extra fluff material during initial concepts they had Andre as Gwyn's son and he'd lead you to the Kiln of the First Flame
With that interview and all the other shit like not dying between possible thousands of years I'm gonna bet he is Gwyn's son
>>334452995
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
PERSONAL RESPONSE INSANITY
Does Dark Souls 3's ending provide a sense of finality and closure to the series or is it just
>you linked the fire again, congratulations
>>334452963
There's multiple contradictions in both games that make it so they cannot possibly take place in the same universe. The Giants being just one that was mentioned in this thread already. If you want an easy way to see that the 2 games branch off from DS1's ending look at the cover arts. 2 is dark and grey, like the Fire was never linked. 3 is vibrant and the Undead is filled with the ember.
>>334453182
>lets look at the USA cover arts to prove a point
wew
>>334452695
Immortality is overated, specially in a world as shit as darksouls'.
Also, it fucking hurts to die. Being stepped on by a giant tree, or having a saword bigger than yourself being thrusted in your body, or sliced in half. Shit's not fun.
>>334453118
> putting cut content that was never implemented beyond concept above content that's in the game that you can look at and experience
You're a special kind of dumb.
>>334453232
Naturally you ignored the other point to try and be all "Haha, he's wrong...!" It's confirmed, get over it.
>>334453294
Head canon isn't confirmed you retard. It's called you making shit up.
>>334453180
You can link the fire again but apparently it does fucking nothing, the stopgap measure of linking is not enough anymore. There's an alternative ending where you become the lord of hollows and usher in an age of dark, leading the world to something new.
>>334453180
It depends on what you get out of dark souls.
Do you like it for the gameplay, boss encounters, cool enemies and map design? Then it's a fucking amazing ending to the series. Do you want some closure to the lore and story of the curse of the undead and the kindling? Then you should wait a few months for some YouTuber to make a lore video explaining everything for you.
>>334453270
Well by that definition nameless king is as confirmed andre at this point.
>>334453252
Only because your character always seemingly ends up in shitty parts of the Dark Souls world, while places like Catarina and Astora are living it up quite nicely if item descriptions are to be believed.
>>334453337
No, I can just use the clues the game's have put in front of me to infer. It is. Confirmed. 2 universes.
![na-cover-art[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/bNXKBVp.png "na-cover-art[1].png")
>>334453182
>>334453232
On the topic of cover art, who the fuck approved this? it tells you nothing about the game. At least Demon's Souls has a forlorn dude in armor.
>>334452995
>Instead of hollowing everyone is infected with a virus that corrupts more and more of your robot body
>>334453380
The item descriptions strongly imply he is Gwyn's exiled son. He was cast out for allying with the dragons (Gwyn's mortal enemy.) Makes sense considering he's riding a dragon and using lightning miracles (Gwyn's signature weapon.)
>>334453406
Except there are no clues that you're linking. You've literally just made shit up and are pretending it's confirmed.
>>334453439
brb, stealing this for my own orignal work of fictionI do already have a concept of a "robot apocalypse" where everyone is robots struggling and fighting over power sources and replacement parts
>>334453439
That sounds so stupid holy shit
My question is: what do they eat?
Okay my OCD is killing me, I killed 3 of the Souls of Cinder but there are still 2 unlocked giant doors where Pontiff is at Irithyll of the Boreal Valley. How the fuck do I open them? I already beat the dancer but I tried backtracking
>>334453653
souls
>>334453501
Fine, Andre has still lived thousands of years and it bugs the shit out of me how there is no explanation.
>>334452570
Holy shit that actually makes alot of sense. Hes been hammering for thousands of years. Through multiple cycles of fire and dark. People are constantly needing blacksmithing done, so he justs keeps doing his thing and therefore keeps gaining souls and yes the purpose thing and so never hollows. We dont see him in ds2 but I'd be willing to believe for lore sake that he is somewhere in the world smithing something. Blew my fucking mind. Andre is the longest living human in the history of dark souls world.
>>334453653
Souls nigga
>>334453567
I've already given 2 examples that you shrugged off. Here's a few more: Aldia is obsessed with recreating the FF. Why would he be if it was already linked? The Giants are all dead in DS2, they exist in DS3. Manos' corruption spreads via his daughters in Drangleic only decades upon decades after DS1. Why did it not happen in Lordran instead, which is closer and linked to the abyss already. There's so many inconsistencies that can't be explained reasonably for the 2 games to exist in the same universe.
>>334453653
Estus, one knight from Catarina made a drink out of estus that didn't taste like shit so I assume they've done other stuff with it. There's also estus soup that you can find sometimes.
>tfw dragonslayer armor fight
>>334452870
> has anyone reached the 200 hour mark
Is that a serious fucking question
>>334452870
The game is worth it for the game itself. I'm not at 200 hours, but I've got like 50. If you want it solely for a PVE experience then I would say it's worth it. PVP so far is fucking shit. It all comes down to who can get an attack out first. Poise is fucking useless like it was in Dks2. Strength builds suck dick for pvp. Long swords are broken. Invading gets you gank squads every fucking. Hosts can heal all they want and it's impossible to punish them for it. They can also heal twice as much since you lose half your flasks when you invade. You also lose your bloodstain and all your souls at the spot where you died in their world, so you get the run all the way through the level and get it. There's basically no incentive to invade since the covenant rewards aren't worth it. Darkmoon is dead again. It's a fucking mess.
But yea, PVE is totally worth.
Why is the player character, phantoms, and some of the NPCs manlets compared to 99% of the enemies in the game?
>>334454392
Because they're fucking giants nigga
>>334453567
No response? You're defeated. 2 universes confirmed.
>>334454251
It's weird, everytime I sunbro with a person, they almost always end up getting invaded by a mad or dark spirit, but when I go solo through areas while ember'd, I never see any pvp action. It's like the game is programmed for invaders to end up in a co-op world to be gangraped or something.
>>334454392
Because you fucking manlets will never learn that the world belong's to normal humans and not midgets like you
>>334454569
That's because it is. They fucking gimped invasions so hard. It's not worth invading anymore. There's literally no benefit anymore. You barely get any souls, and the rewards aren't worth it. I also don't get why they fucking RUINED the Darkmoon covenant for the second time. It fucking sucks. The weapon balance is all fucked up again too.
>>334454251
>>334454569
I don't know what game you faggots are playing but I get invaded in every area all the time and all I do is play solo.
>>334454790
Are you always using embers? That'll do it.
>>334453824
Wait, Estus is suppose to taste like shit? Aww now I feel bad forcing my uy to chug that swill down.
>>334454790
I've been invaded a single time while playing solo. Every time I summon someone I get invaded without fail. It's fucking stupid
>>334454790
While soloing shit, I haven't been invaded a single time on my sunbro character and I almost always have ember mode on me. On the other hand, I co-oped with an IRL friend in Undead Settlement and got invaded twice throughout our session.
>>334450536
>The dark sign is something every human has
I'm pretty sure that not everyone has the dark sign. The DS1 intro says that the undead in "this land" (not Lordran) are corralled to the asylum, which implies that most people don't end up undead.
>>334451525
I think all the corpses with items that you see around are people who died and never went undead.
after the roman empire barbaric people thought giants built the aquaducts. i thinks thats what theyre going for
>Anor Alonso destroyed
At least they fixed the broken window.
>>334456260
THIS GAME IS SO FUCKING GOOD
>>334456373
I didn't want to have anything to do with that shit. I just threw kukris at it.
>>334452318
There are definitely some things you aren't meant to take seriously. Skeletons in general are goofy motherfuckers.
>>334456373
What the fuck is that abyss shit you see growing out of so many enemies in this game?
>>334456260
I mean, you do swing it right through his face behind your back.
>>334453437
It was a different time.
>>334452835
Where does Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden fit in with all this?
>From can't make a coherent world even when being as vague as possible and bullshit excuses like time being fucked and cycles
>people try to make sense of a world and lore that was lazily built
Stick to discussing level and boss designs because anything story is shit. Every Souls game should have been it's own world with similarities like DeS and BB instead of hamfisting shit like Scholar of the First Sin.
>>334456828
The dark sign is really ghost Bill Cosby.
>>334456503
This crocodile fucker really caught me by surprise, same with the Wolf Spider thing. Fuckers are fast as hell.
>>334456503
I see they're going the Bloodborne route of "what the fuck is that fucking animal thing supposed to be?"
What's up with the Untended Graves area? There's like three versions of Firelink Shrine in the game.
Has the PC version been datamined for anything interesting? I still like to think there's something hidden in bloodborne still.
Is Dark Souls 2 worth picking up?
>>334458991
I can fucking hear his midget voice in my head!
>>334449206
Better question is why are the leader boards filled with level 1 characters with 99 in all stats?
I suppose i've still been invaded by less hackers than ds2
Guys, I gave the dark eyes to Shrine Handmaiden. Did I fuck up?Should I kill her? It feels like I fucked up.
What grinds my gears the most is that it has been hundreds of thousands of years between the games yet all the armor design has stayed exactly the same and technology hasn't advanced at all. It's worse than Africa.
>>334451910
>he has to mix max in dark souls
get good
>>334454251
>str sucks dick
>poise doesnt work
God im tired of this meme spouted by dex fags and utter trash.
>>334456536
It's exactly that, abyss shit.
I don't think you understand just how fucked the situation is in DS3.
First the plan is to have some asshole link the fire. No one did or could this time.
Next the plan is to wake up all the previous assholes in some shithole called Lothric. They fucked off for some reason, probably because having the universe ask them to burn alive a second time was a bit demanding.
Now the world is so fucking desperate for someone to link the fire it's just pulling cosmic failures out of their graves to drag the assholes back to the kiln for burning.
To have reached this point, the world would need to be in such a state of decay that some hollows are literally overflowing with Dark.
>>334449206
It was ME Barry I built that architecture. Me Barry ALL ME!
