holy fuck its happening
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=201100330&postcount=4778
>>334441187
>neofag
>>334441187
That makes no sense since Polaris is not even out on the market, yet we know there are already some NX dev kits around
>>334441187
ninty wins
>>334441187
>Nintendo buys Tiger Electronics and makes the LCD screen out of old spare parts from the 80s
Nintendrones will defend this.
>>334441727
Dev kits aren't the final build you twat
it's really fucking weird seeing all this enthusiasm for the next nintendo console when the wii u was SO BAD.
so nintendo's next console, which is not even announced yet, will be slightly more powerful than current gen consoles? how can anyone hype that up?
>>334441187
>neogaf
>>334441187
>neogaf
>reliable source
>>334441651
>>334444346
>lel internet forum wars guiz XD
>forget about the topic and worry about where the source was from
>>334441727
remember how the N64 had already dev kits but they didnt have the final build yet? yea...
>>334444285
Gc and wii anon
Go search it up.
>>334441187
The only nx leak I want is the announcement date.
>>334444285
because its the start of generation 9 aka next gen. Get hyped.
>>334444285
3x ps4, bruh. Get ready for real next gen.
>>334444693
If you say so
>>334444693
>>334444685
you realize that PS5 will be twice as powerful as NX, right? Nintendo is playing catch-up with their next consoles to match current gen. they've already lost.
>>334444869
ps4 is not even twice as powerfull as the ps3
>>334444869
No way. If it was we would be dealing with another 599 US Dollars meme
>>334445329
It is significantly more powerful gpu-wise.
>>334445475
Too bad the logic is done on the cpu
Ps4 can handle more npcs, but ps3 makes then smarter thanks to the power of the cell
>>334445329
ps3: 512mb memory
ps4: 8gb
go post your stupid shit somewhere else.
>>334444869
Are we not at a point of diminishing returns with GPU power these days? So what if it's 10 times more powerful, doesn't really matter anymore. I'm not invested in Nintendo really, but curious why you think this, especially when they've never tried to play catch-up. They've always done their own thing, with inferior hardware.
>>334445861
>ram can do calculations n shit
This all seems fake:
>New Luigi's Mansion
>Streaming games to controller
>Polaris GPU when the NX has been in development for at least 6 months already
>Tons of PS4 ports possible
It's just a wishlist
>>334445861
Cell > AMShitty desktop consumer cpu
>>334446014
Under the extreme likelihood that the console is about as powerful as current gen and the same architecture to simplify things, ports of current multiplatform games are the most reasonable aspect here.
Is that good?
If so, it's probably fake
>>334441187
REMINDER THAT THE POWER OF NINTENDO'S NEXT CONSOLE IS IRRELEVANT SINCE IT WONT SELL ANYWAYS.
They could demonstrate to casuals in person that the NX is stronger than the PS5 and they wouldn't buy it because Nintendo's reputation is tarnished outside of those who will buy it just because its Nintendo.
>neogaf
>>334444693
Doesn't the PS4 use a modded Radeon HD 7850/7850M or something like that?
3x the mobile chip wouldn't be that difficult, but being 3x the full card would be pretty difficult to have with a good price.
>>334446346
not exactly, Wii U don't sell because has no games and has no game because has no enough power to developers make ports, but if nintendo make a console with the power of their competitors developers will make games/ports and people will buy it because they have a lot of exclusives IPs that they only sell with their name
Polaris is a bit surprising, though the power consumption benefits were probably appealing to Nintendo. Since Polaris is on 14nm, I wonder if this means Nintendo is going with Zen or using something like A72 which gets a nice boost on the smaller node. They've used nothing but RISC processors since N64.
>>334445861
>hurr durr RAM is the only number that matters
>>334447080
>both Nintendo and Sony are waiting to see who reveals their respective console first to upgrade it after them
>NX and PS4K never come out
>>334447080
>Sony already in a bad situation financially
>Decide to release a 4k gaming console at a loss
>Hardly anyone buys it "Why upgrade to the PS4k when i already have a PS4?"
>Mfw sony is dead by 2019
>>334447221
>>334446051
>>334445961
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
>>334444491
Wii fucking sucked.
SNES and N64 were their peak.
>>334447540
lmao no
>>334447387
When you really look at it, Wii U is this half-measure console that's basically keeping pace [or was, I don't know if it still is] with PS4 in Japan and Microsoft certainly lost ground but still has a nice chunk of the US market.
If NX and whatever Microsoft has in the works come out of the gate strong, Sony has a real scenario in front of them where they are totally dependent on the European market.
>remote play trash
Fuck that noise.
>>334447607
SNES through N64 was absolutely Nintendo's ultimate peak as a developer. They were absolutely in the zone. The stuff they did on those consoles pretty much set the standard for everything they did after.
If it's real It will get shat on by DX12 despite probably being a superior platform. MS has deep ass pockets to push themselves onto devs.
>>334441187
>dubs and triples in the same thread
why isn't anyone celebrating
>>334447540
N64 was basically the first Wii U, except it actually followed innovation
Ive been a long time nintendo fan, but is it this legit I wont be buying the new console and I will see my wii u and 3ds asap.
>>334446346
Nintendo really needs to fix their reputation, but I think they're perfectly happy to have everyone think of them as the company that makes nothing but Mario games.
>rumour
>>334441187
oh man ps4 and xboner about to get REKT
It would be funny if, after all these "rumors", NX turns out to be a handheld device.
>>334448161
If it is a handheld device and Nintendo is using AMD for the GPU, then Polaris seems even more likely.
They can make the most powerful console ever but if they do not have the games to match it why bother?
Pokemon RPG with all regions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgl1oSqj3QU
>NX Has Screen Controller
AND EYEEE EE EYE EE EYE, WILL ALWAYS, LOVEEE YOUUUU~~
DEAD ON ARRIVAL.
THE WII U TAUGHT THEM NOTHING.
NOTHING!
RIP IN PEPPERONI.
PRESS F TO PAY RESPECTS BOYS.
>>334444285
The WiiU was only bad to faggots. More quality exclusives than both Xbone and Ps4 somehow.
>>334446956
We'll see about that. Gamecube was roughly equal in terms of power to its competitors during its time, but received far fewer multi-plats than and ports Xbox. Gamecube was also Nintendo's worst selling system before the Wii U came along and claimed that title. Even then in the early 2000s Nintendo had the reputation as the "kiddie system". The Wii was a winner because it had games that expanded the gaming audience, brought in the casuals you could say. If Nintendo returns to making games like that, which have broad appeal, then the NX might be a success. If it only has ports of last year's PS4 games and typical Nintendo kiddie shit, I don't think it'll sell.
>>334448589
Not necessarily. It could be connectivity with a handheld system. Or it could be using your phone or tablet as an input, like that Xbox thing. I'm betting it's not another tablet controller, they learned their lesson there, and instead just give you the ability to use a device you already have either a mobile device or Nintendo handheld.
>>334441187
>rumors
Anyway even if it's true by the time it release those things aren't that great anymore.
>>334448161
Far too many trustworthy leakers confirming it's a home console.
>>334441187
Your a fucking retard if you believe them specs. It would cost 1000 bucks for them specs and the screen controllet would be sold separately
![[Laughter Intensifies].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rSUeGhR.jpg "[Laughter Intensifies].jpg")
>>334449127
>Polaris GPU $1000
>I'm the retard
>>334448639
yes but unlike other console make of the time they used mini dvd instead of using dvd for their games and that limited porting of their games to their console as time went by
or getting sometime inferior version as game in the 6th gen got bigger.
mind you not all the time but still they cucked themeselves by using minidvd.
>>334448639
But we're talking about modern times, now people buy consoles because "muh exclusives", "muh 60fps and 4k", "muh meme games"...
Just look all those kids buying their first Dark souls (3) and they can't even defeat the first boss.
>>334448839
ITS ANOTHER FUCKING CONTROLLER WITH A SCREEN.
It doesn't even matter what the system is at this point, its done for. Its another gimmick that will be laughed at and ignored completely.
>>334441187
Whats the point? Nintendo will still only allow bubbly retarded cartoon-like games that only need a fucking dual core processor to handle. Those stupid smiling dinks they have running the company sure love to push the whole family-friendly idea.
But in a turn of events, family-friendly only fucking matters to games which are chosen by the consumer anyway. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?
>One genius move I expect Nintendo to make is to use smartphones and tablets as controllers to the NX.
>Oh yes. It just makes too much sense. First, the Gamepad of the Wii U was ridiculously expensive. Second, Nintendo is already making software for mobile devices. Third, the hardware of the mobile devices far exceeds anything Nintendo could put out at a cheap price. Nintendo likes having an interactive second screen. There is no reason why the smart device cannot do it. You could use your smart device to draw and interact in games such as building levels or messing with the gamer during gameplay. It’d be like using your smartphone for the job of the gamepad.
Do you agree with Malstrom?
>>334449614
>Something with no buttons or sticks used as a home console controller
Someone take this idea out back and shoot it right between the eyes.
>>334449614
I don't see why not. Xbox has something like that, and PC streaming. PS4 has streaming to Vita and PC. Makes total sense.
It's not a system selling feature, clearly. Xbox Smartglass doesn't sell any Xboxes in the same way the Wii U gamepad didn't sell Wii Us. Nobody wants this feature or will use it. But it makes sense to have it, since the competition does and Nintendo does indeed love that second screen bullshit.
>>334449614
>people would rather use their smartphone or tablet than a controller
jesus fucking christ. they are going to keep focusing on the whole gaming for families shit arent they
>>334441187
>Neogaf
Don't. If you trusted them before Wii U's launch, the Wii U should be a super powerful system.
>>334449614
>genius move
>>334449614
He has never been right.
>>334448639
The ultra casual market transitioned to phone games. Nintendo isn't going to build a system around them like they did with the Wii.
>>334449817
As long as this shit is completely optional, I don't care.
>neogaf """""""""""leaks""""""""""""
>>334447463
Exactly, clearly you don't, glad we agree on that.
>>334449896
[Citation needed]
>>334450513
>implying that it didnt look real and didnt go along with nintendos terrible decisions
i dont mind getting fooled by a 3-d printed dummy the guy did good
>>334450513
>people actually fell for this
>they are now falling for "leakers" saying NX will connect to smartphones and tablets
I'm glad we're only two months away from E3
>>334449127
The Polaris is targeting a $160-200 price point specifically with VR and low power consumption in mind. AMD is trying to get ahead in the VR market and make a low wattage GPU at the same time since their current GPUs are shit at VR and draw up to 150 watts of power which is absurd.
>>334450865
>getting fooled by "confidential property"
>>334447463
>>334445861
RAM is not power, buddy. And the PS4 doesn't have 8GB of RAM. It has 8 GB of shared RAM which is different and 2GB of that is locked away for the crappy OS to use. After the system assigns 4GB of it to VRAM, the poor PS4 is left with a weak 2GB of actual RAM.
>>334451078
Ive seen prototypes in my line of work who have simple stickers like this. Its really not far fetched
Friedrich Bruce better be theft begun chef church grudge fructify catches Chevy brush Haber grunting McCluskey Kristy butthurt bright venturi Krueger Vanderburgh high-tech brunching fleur begrudging nunnery Cheney Gruber cyber greenthumb nunchuk cunningness Christchurch begrudgingly victory fructify crucifying buttfucking Bruno Krieger dogfish brightly mulberry key introduction Kristi Kristi bigotry bigfoot Irish Vittorio landing venturi vibrio hummingbird big could h Khoikhoi desecrated decreased numbingly exceeded deserved Dedede describing Xerxes monolith heuristic Griffiths disoriented dandified F-smash hdwkakakakakW handiwork heuristically originality until until jdhdd the geostatistics drudging Cascades defecates xenophobic decrescendo feverfew ceded credence defecates feverfew Cascades cybersex feverfew Cascades federated mongoloid Dhabi defect feverfew nobou NJ Joni bikini bikini nobou fever Khoikhoi carved faced ceded feverfew femininity Nguyen hypocritically blockbusting Luigi's hummingbird Higginbotham officiality of X HDTV veteran garden ignition Khoikhoi Khoikhoi federated datasets uroporphyrin Khoikhoi trusters Igknight cafeterias bricklayer credo kingship historicity Khrushchev dutiful juniper hero Kyushu Knesset guidebook neurotoxicity Khoikhoi Provo hiccough Jedidiah faithful bunkering bigotry notification battery Molloy dataset cheddar McKinley Molopo
Any games confirmed for it? Aside from the general stable?
>>334448391
A Mario Metroid or Zelda with the best console visuals in the market would be a big selling point, and a killer combo.
But it won't happen, so there's nothing to worry.
>>334449614
sounds like the first Nintendo console ever that I will skip entirely.
>>334449614
This faggot is still around?
>>334452210
Square Enix did accidentally let slip that they were working on DQ X and XI for it, but later backpedaled and said it was merely under consideration.
Nintendo has mentioned the next 3D Mario and Pikmin games are nearly done but they haven't been clear on what system they'll be on, so they could potentially be NX launch titles, but that's not confirmed at all.
>>334453174
Source on the 3d mario
>>334453174
SE clarified a comment someone made when he was asked about DQ games on NX. It was always "considered".
>>334453527
>someone
It wasn't just "someone". He knew what he was saying he just wasn't meant to say it.
>>334453465
I just searched and I think I got my facts mixed up, Miyamoto just said another 3D Mario wouldn't happen until NX launches.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-08-17-super-mario-galaxy-3-opportunity-as-hardware-technology-gets-better-and-advances
>>334452210
Meteoid nx hinted at
Monolith soft started work on a new game right after finishing XCX and hired a number of workers who they "urgently" needed so well probably get a new xeno/new ip
Zelda nx is obvious
We know they're working on pikmin 4 so probably on nx
>>334441187
>Neogaf
The only thing less reliable is Patcher
>>334441187
Nintendo isn't even a serious contender anymore and consoles are dying out fast
Very unlikely 10+ million people will go out and buy a console that possible won't
Play bluray
Have apps such as Netflix and some other shit
Games will still be 30fps
Online will still be gimped like wiiu
Publishers won't bother with making online services is cheaper for them(uplay for ubisoft , battlenet's transformation slowly to a client , origin etc..)
What is the point anymore?
And this is being real
Neutral but real
>>334444285
>Wii U
>Bad
It was a financial failure to be sure but there's lots of good stuff to play on it. I'd hate it if I was such a boring faggot I couldn't enjoy the Wii U's library.
>>334454542
>Online will still be gimped like wiiu
Like consoles in general.
>Getting hyped for a Nintendo console when their last worthwhile system was the SNES
Even the 64 was disappointing, people don't want to pay for a console just to play only 5 or 6 games, and that's why Nintendo got raped by Sony ever since their first console.
>>334454638
Yeah let's play Mario 3D world , Mario kart , dkcr , ...splatoon..and ...uh smash
>>334454542
Most people who want a bluray player already have one at this point. Lots of Wii U games ran at 60fps. Nintendo is showing signs of improving their online system with the transition to their replacement for club Nintendo.
The Wii U didn't fail for any of these reasons, it was because the appeal to the casual audience was gone, and there was nothing on it for core gamers to play for a very long time. Once it lost all its third party support its fate was sealed.
We don't know if the same thing will happen with the NX, so just wait and see.
>>334454638
I can only speak for myself, but the Wii U library seems pretty lacking except for the Platinum games.
>>334441187
>neofags
>a reliable source on Nintendo
Pick one.
>>334454840
I could also list only five PS2 exclusives and then claim that it had a shitty library with nothing to play, but that wouldn't make much sense now would it
>>334454638
>It was a financial failure
Wii U broke even a long time ago. The only thing bad about the Wii U is it didn't sell a lot.
>>334444285
I can't say I'm excited but I am very interested in seeing it simply because I feel like there's a lot hinging on the NX.
More than ever I think it will plainly demonstrate whether or not Nintendo is capable of learning a lesson from their failures, and I believe Kimishima's legacy will be riding on it.
>>334455047
Nintendo themselves regard it as a failure. Breaking even isn't the issue, it's a failure if it doesn't make investors happy and drive up their stock prices.
>>334455006
Name 5 good games on the Wii U
>>334455003
>NeoFAGs having any credibility at all.
>>334455092
>Nintendo themselves regard it as a failure.
It is just not a financial one.
>it's a failure if it doesn't make investors happy and drive up their stock prices.
It was never going to do either of things after the Wii.
>neofags
>being right about Nintendo
>ever
>>334455102
What's the point? You'll just say they aren't no matter what they are.
Five more beyond what anon already said are Bayo 1 & 2, Wonderful 101, Super Mario Maker, Pikmin 3, and Xenoblade Chronicles X.
>>334455268
The company is the one who gets to decide whether its product is or isn't a financial failure anon. Also, selling less than 15 million is a massive flop after a having a console that sold 100 million.
>>334455092
>Nintendo themselves regard it as a failure
>[Citation Needed]
NeoFAG please.
>>334441187
>he still cares about nintendo after the wiiu
>>334455268
Dude, it did sub-Gamecube numbers. It's Nintendo's worst selling home console. Third parties abandoned it and then even Nintendo fucking abandoned it. It may have managed to break even but it's still a failure from a business perspective, especially when they projected such high numbers for it and basically sold everyone on it based on those projections.
>he still cares about nintendo after the wii and wiiu
>>334444869
Dude, the NX will be on the market for 4 full years before sony can even consider bringing out a ps5.
And this ps4.5 looks to be a clusterfuck in the making and not a single person save for payed for shills believes otherwise.
>>334454909
It had those AAA games that retards claim will sell a system. What did it do? Sold not one extra console.
The entire notion that the nintendo sold for shit with the wiiu because it doesn't have those games is a narrative pushed by the people who do have them or want to sell them.
The thing sold for shit because they cheaped out on marketing, let the wii audience leave without even attempting to keep them around, didn't buy thq and sega and keep capcom and se under their thumb.
The mere fact that they didn't push the wiiu as an HD upgrade for the wii and have every wii game have a SHINY HD look to them when played on the system AND the most popular wii games and IP at launch shows their stupidity and blind hubris.
It failed because of abject stupidity and them thinking they could get away with doing the least.
>>334444285
>when the wii u was SO BAD.
The Wii U's marketing was bad, its the best of the 3 consoles when it comes to games though, which is all that matters since every console is a weak piece of shit with outdated hardware.
>>334455461
>but it's still a failure from a business perspective,
Nope. They made a profit and managed to last 4 years, just like the Wii, the GCN and the N64.
Failure is losing billions on your product which you will never recoup, aka, the PS3. It's a product that lost so much money it squandered all the money Sony made on the PS2.
>>334455447
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/iwata-is-not-satisfied-with-the-wii-us-current-situation
My Wii U which I have spent many hours playing and enjoying is only about five feet away from me right now, but whatever.
>>334445910
>They've always done their own thing, with inferior hardware.
Only with the Wii
Gamecube was stronger than the PS2, its only downfall was not being a cheap DVD player
>>334455342
bayo 2 and W101 are the only ones good you listed dumbass. And those are platinum
I'm glad gaf is totally irrelevant now. It was funny how /v/ and r/gaming stole all their traffic and media attention.
>>334455593
Not satisfied =/= admitting it's a failure.
>>334455612
And having less than 1% of the PS2 library.
>>334455705
>1% of the PS2 library.
So many quality games.
>>334455552
>Failure can only mean huge, catastrophic failure. There are not multiple degrees of failure, big and small. Only big. Everything else is a success.
You need to stop.
>>334455618
>hurr durr
Ok
>>334455612
>Gamecube was stronger than the PS2, its only downfall was not being a cheap DVD player
It had a pretty bad image problem beyond that. "Purple lunchbox." It's pretty surprising that they didn't foresee how much of a problem the system's image would be considering they went out of their way to secure developers like Retro and Silicon Knights for it. They clearly were getting the message that they needed to shed the "kiddy games" thing but then they went and made the system look like a playskool toy.
>>334455549
It was created to be the most powerful and cheapest HD console of the 7th gen, not an 8th gen console.
Ironically enough the 8th gen consoles are built around ancient laptop hardware and graphics cards that were out of date and just above bottom of the barrel when they were released nearly a decade ago.
Problem is that nintendo didn't make that perfectly clear and decided to just be the late man to the party.
Even worse, they threw the fucking thing under the bus to help out the clusterfuck that was the 3DS launch.
They just had a lot of bad things happen around that time. A major chunk of the problems was someone pushing bad "gimmicks" for lack of a better word or phrase and allowing the third parties free reign when it came to putting out games on the console.
>>334455809
Profitability does not equal failure.
Keep trying neofag.
>>334455704
It failed to meet the level of success that he would have found satisfactory. Stop playing word games.
>>334455420
>he company is the one who gets to decide whether its product is or isn't a financial failure anon.
Go through their financial reports. The spoiler is Nintendo is good at budgeting.
>>334455461
>Nintendo fucking abandoned it.
How can you seriously say this when they just released some games with it and still have more known titles to come?
Either way though, I flat out said it was a failure.
I hope
>>334444635
>The only nx leak I want is the announcement date.
November 2017,
Also get rid of that name, its poor form.
>>334455814
Image problem came from Sony and MS. They had to push Nintendo as kiddy to make their consoles look mature and cool.
The clusterfuck that was Windwaker also basically sank the entire goddamned world to tell you the truth.
I mean, if it was Twilight princess sans the shitty wolf gimmick people would have laughed at the kiddy black pr.
>>334455150
Got the one with the transgender person who thinks >she looks better than the Asian transgender person?
>>334455797
I rather have a console with both shit games and masterpieces, but especially with hundreds of worthwhile games, than a console that only gets 5 good games in its entire lifetime. I also rather pay for variation and novelty than to play yet another Mario and Zelda game.
>>334455912
Nintendo's cutting the thing's life short and have made pretty noticeable attempts to keep everything they possibly can on the 3DS until NX launches. For the past couple years Wii U has seen nothing but games that are technically not possible on the 3DS, or Mario games, simply because they have enough confidence in the Mario brand to make it sell well.
I would call this abandonment compared to their usual activities. Their 2016 lineup is laughably small, and their 2015 lineup wasn't much better.
>>334455814
>It's pretty surprising that they didn't foresee how much of a problem the system's image
Nintendo doesn't do banter. It's simply not in their system. There's was no way for them to see the lunchbox tag coming, especially when they had an all black version that's still one of the best looking consoles.
>>334456171
>3x ps4, bruh. Get ready for
I don't know why people ripped on the handle, I used to jam my cords in there when the cube was unplugged
>>334456160
>Nintendo's cutting the thing's life short
A standard console generation isn't "short".
>have made pretty noticeable attempts to keep everything they possibly can on the 3DS until NX launches.
They are STILL launching Wii U games. You are dead wrong with your assessment.
>>334455912
Because they're good at selling their games, which doesn't mean that the console wasn't a failure. Do you really think that Nintendo expected that their console would only sell 1/3 of their rival even when it had one year of advantage?
>>334456302
It's really not that hard to read.
>>334456041
First you blame it on Sony and MS, and then admit that Nintendo shot themselves in the foot with Windwaker.
Obviously their competition were happy to push this image problem, but you can't blame them for the ammo that Nintendo served to them on a silver platter.
The GC is one of my favorite systems ever and I wouldn't want it to change. I love the damn thing, lunchbox handle, baby toy button coloring, Windwaker and all. The GC was probably the last console that really encapsulated what used to be so fun about consoles in the first place, that hardware manufacturers would try things, their machines were unique and had personality. But sadly what appeals to people like me is often not what appeals to the mass market.
This is basically the whole story of Sega.
>>334456160
>Nintendo's cutting the thing's life short
The average Nintendo console gen only lasts 5 years, with the NES and Wii lasting 6 years.
Just because the other consoles last for almost 10 years each doesn't mean Nintendo needs to do everything they do. The Wii U will be replaced in 2017 regardless of what the Playstation or Xbox are doing, and the success or lack thereof for the Wii U would not change that either. Nintendo has always had 5-6 console lifespans and will probably continue to.
>>334456302
>Do you really think that Nintendo expected that their console would only sell 1/3 of their rival
Most of the people that bought the PS4 were just scared away from Xbone because of the awful reveal.
Sony lucked out hard this gen, but they haven't done anything at all to earn this success.
They would have been smart to keep online free.
>>334456142
>I also rather pay for variation and novelty than to play yet another Mario and Zelda game.
Not him but the Wii U has a lot of solid titles that aren't Mario or Zelda.
>>334456502
and thank god let me say
this generation is really boring and the fact that sony and microsoft want to make it long as the previous one makes it even more boring
>>334456502
The rumor mill currently says we could be seeing NX as soon as November this year. If that's true, it will be a 4 year lifespan for Wii U, definitely the shortest lifespan a console has had.
Still, one year's difference shouldn't be regarded as some kind of horrible crime. The thing did not perform well, and when products don't perform well, companies phase them out for something else.
Anyone who bought a Wii U has plenty of good things to play on it with more coming. There's no legit reason to complain.
>>334456435
Except Sega actually has games
>>334456726
>definitely the shortest lifespan a console has had.
Sounds like you never bought a Sega Saturn
>>334456663
Microsoft hasn't said one way or another. They just said they weren't selling an upgraded Xbox One.
>>334456290
>They are STILL launching Wii U games.
And like I just said, they're either things that wouldn't be possible on 3DS or star Mario. If the rumors about Zelda getting an NX port are true then 2016 has fuck all for the Wii U.
>A standard console generation isn't "short".
It would have to last until 2017 for that to be true, and frankly I don't think Nintendo wants to sit on the Wii U for that long, especially considering they're in the midst of one of their worst game droughts in their entire history.
>>334456726
>There's no legit reason to complain.
But what if my console of choice doesn't have any games to play but is selling better?
>>334456804
That was meant to be "Nintendo console," my mistake.
Saturn is actually quite a good comparison to Wii U, though. The perception that it was terrible console with no games is quite wrong. It was a financial failure alright, but god damn did the Saturn have a great library.
>>334456826
>especially considering they're in the midst of one of their worst game droughts in their entire history.
Personally I think they need to stop pumping out 4-5 okay games a year and make 1-2 really content packed big games a year instead
Most of their recent releases have felt rushed and completely forgettable
>>334456594
>Most of the people that bought the PS4 were just scared away from Xbone because of the awful reveal.
You highly overestimate how much brand value microsoft and xbox has. Playstation is a household name buddy. Sony has two successful console under their belt, three if you want to be pandenic about it and first party titles that wipe their asses with shitty microsoft games.
>>334456853
...then I guess I would question why it's your console of choice? I'm not sure what you're getting at.
>>334456643
I was comparing GC with the PS2.
>>334441187
Nintendo never sell their hardware at a loss, if they're going to have a Polaris gpu with 2x the power of ps4 then how much is the nx going to cost?
$600 minimum?
>>334456921
Dreamcast and Saturn both had some fucking great games, its too bad most of the memers on the internet that just think "lol dead consoles they didn't make much money!" will never know that.
I can understand console fanboys that love certain types of games, but I'll never get this weird new type of fanboy that cares more about how much money something makes than they care about how good it is
>>334441187
>The NX is going to have a screen controller
DOA
>>334456726
>Anyone who bought a Wii U has plenty of good things to play on it with more coming.
Why you always lyin nigga? The wiiU has nothing on the horizon and its the worst console i've ever purchased.
>>334457079
Yeah you posted this bait earlier and nobody cared, go to some other thread and call people redditors or something.
>>334456594
PS4 is lacking compared to previous Sony consoles. However, it's still much better than what the competition has to offer.
Only reason Sony is blowing the competition out of the water(again) this gen is that the other consoles are hot garbage. And like you said, because Microsoft had awful marketing.
>>334456990
>Playstation is a household name buddy. Sony has two successful console under their belt, three if you want to be pandenic about it and first party titles that wipe their asses with shitty microsoft games.
You would think so, but most parents that don't care about videogames call them "Xbox" much like they used to call all games "Nintendos" 10 years ago.
Also, first party Microsoft games are often great, while Sony on the other hand puts out 9 shit games for every 1 good game, and then they proceed to re-release that good game 4 times and pump out 4-5 sequels within a few years while the game is still popular.
Personally I'd take Viva Pinata or Crackdown over Uncharted or Uncharted with zombies any day though. Sony games are all style over substance 90% of the time, the things onscreen look cool but you're not actually doing anything as the player.
>>334457020
>new low yield manufacturing process
>Polaris gpu
>screen controller
Either it'll be expensive as fuck or Nintendo are selling at a loss this gen
>>334457217
>PS4 is lacking compared to previous Sony consoles.
Did you forget how slow the PS3's start was? It's basically the same.
>>334444685
>the start of generation 9 is something hardly better than generation 8
No, they're just gonna get fucked by the ps4k and backpeddle AGAIN about how its not really a next gen console and then come out with a wii u 2
>>334457217
>However, it's still much better than what the competition has to offer.
In what way?
What kind of things does it offer someone with a good computer that is looking to supplement with a console on the side?
>>334457167
>say wiiu has a lackluster line up
>calls it bait
>mfw I will never defend Nintendo this hard
>>334457217
>However, it's still much better than what the competition has to offer.
It has no good games though, its a multiplat machine for plebs without a computer
I want to believe.
>>334457020
this
it's all a tactic to make people say "see Nintendo sucks again" while the ps4 is as powerful as a netbook
>>334457079
Star Fox Zero looks a lot better now compared to when they originally showed it off. That delay really helped it. That honestly looks pretty good now.
>>334457373
Wow, you guys really are delusional, I feel bad for you
SONYGERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
PORTSTATION 4K WILL FLOP
>>334457373
Compared to the Xbox and PS4 the Wii U's lineup is pretty great.
I'll take a look at my stack of games just to show you
>Bayonetta 2
>Devil's Third (not the greatest game but I did enjoy it)
>Xenoblade Chronicles X
>Yoshi's Woolly World
>New Super Mario Bros U / Luigi DLC
>Mario Maker
>Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
>Smash 4
>Hyrule Warriors
>Captain Toad
>Mario Kart 8
>Tropical Freeze
>Mario 3D World
>Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Directors Cut (Really good port, best console version, I enjoyed it more than the PC version too. Gamepad adds a lot to the game)
>Rayman Legends
>Wonderful 101
>Pikmin 3
>Resident Evil: Revelations
>Game and Wario (kind of let down by this game, but I'd recommend it at around $20-30)
>Injustice Gods Among Us
>Monster Hunter 3U
>Lego City Undercover (Surprisingly fun game with a lot to find and a great sense of humor, glad I listened to the good reviews)
>Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (only 20 bucks, and its got a tonne of content)
>Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
>Windwaker HD
>Pokken
>Twilight Princess HD
And we've got, Starfox and Zelda coming out soon.
I'm sure I missed a game or two, but this is a pretty decent library if you ask me
>>334456435
What?
No, they pushed the kiddy thing and then later the windwaker catastrophe only made things worse. It's not an admittance of anything. It's me saying that it made black pr even worse.
Secondly, the GC was both the most powerful AND cheapest console and was neck and neck with the xbox OG.
The PS2 has the same thing that the ps4 has now. Good marketing and buying people off. That can go really far in the toy/luxury toy for adults business.
As for sega. They fucked themselves by being fucking stupid, not because no one got them.
>>334457520
Cry harder pony
>>334457269
>Also, first party Microsoft games are often great, while Sony on the other hand puts out 9 shit games for every 1 good game, and then they proceed to re-release that good game 4 times and pump out 4-5 sequels
Gear of war 4
Forza 6
Halo 5
Crackdown 3
Get your head out of your ass microsoft fanboy. Your franchises are only popular in America, nobody outside the US seems to care about Microsofts games as is evident by the sales of the failed console.
The rest of your argument is serious hyperbolic bullshit and reeks of insecurity, enjoy your shooters though I guess.
>>334457283
At least the PS3 had the excuse of having a slow start, while the PS4 started outselling the competition right from the get go. It's just weird to have so few exclusives when the console is basically dominating the market.
Still, I hope you're right.
>>334456826
>they're either things that wouldn't be possible on 3DS
The fuck does that even mean? Lots of things aren't possible on the 3DS.
>especially considering they're in the midst of one of their worst game droughts in their entire history.
Is it really a drought when they released one game and are getting ready to release another?
>>334457535
>he actually defends nintendo and the wiiu this hard
>>334447076
They're going to keep backwards compatibility with the Wii U
>>334457712
Took me like 5 minutes to write that out, not really that much dedication, I just think its stupid to say the Wii U doesn't have a good lineup
Think NX will have WIIU backwards compatability? Only games I've really held onto were Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2, but would that's not much to hold onto a whole extra console for.
>>334457605
>They fucked themselves by being fucking stupid, not because no one got them.
Didn't help that the PS2 was the cheapest DVD player available and dominated the market as a result
>>334457878
>selling games or consoles
wew
>>334457706
>The fuck does that even mean?
It means that if they're capable of putting it on 3DS, they will, because they don't want things staying exclusive on Wii U. Just look at Smash, or Hyrule Warriors, or any of the other franchises the Wii U is lacking like Animal Crossing and such.
>Is it really a drought when they released one game and are getting ready to release another?
Yes, I would call "4 or 5 games lined up for the whole year" a drought.
>>334451203
you are fucking retarded
its shared ram, apart from the OS there is nothing assigned, its all down to the dev how much vram is being used
>>334457650
It's a problem every console has and it will only get worse.
In the ps1 era it would take 10 guys a year to make a great game, ps2 era it took 50 guys a year, last gen it took over 100 people and multiple years, and its only going up.
As long as the marketing focus is on better graphics instead of cool gameplay then it's going to keep getting worse. Nintendo is somewhat of an exception but if this leak is true then they're going the same way too
>>334451203
Devs can assign the ram how they want
>>334457350
It has better exclusives than the Xbone and much more games than the Wii U. Not to mention that the difference in exclusives will most likely get bigger as time passes due to the PS4 being the dominating console. Do you think a company will rather have their game as a Xbone or PS4 exclusive?Or in other words, do you think a company will rather have its game in a console that's owned by almost 40 million people or in one that's owned by barely 20 million?
>brand new low yield process
>console makers are already hogging all the supply
Fuck you niggertendo.
Looks like I'm not getting a Polaris card any time soon.
>>334444869
>>334445861
Retarded ponies
>>334457991
>It means that if they're capable of putting it on 3DS, they will, because they don't want things staying exclusive on Wii U.
You're aware they only did that for the Japanese sales right? Also, Animal Crossing is a handheld series now.
>Yes, I would call "4 or 5 games lined up for the whole year" a drought.
Compared to other publishers, that's pretty middle of the pack.
>>334458127
But what about the Wii U and its large selection of exclusives that aren't shit?
PS4 might have "much more games" than the Wii U, but 90% of them are dumbshit like Need for Speed or Assassin's Creed, and the other 10% are on PC.
So why would you recommend the PS4 for someone that can already play all of the good games with better settings?
>>334458027
>As long as the marketing focus is on better graphics instead of cool gameplay then it's
Marketing doesn't neccesarily raise the graphical standards in any tangible way though, they just advertise a better version of the product. Graphical standards are risen with hardware revisions, not marketing. Right now, it is almost out of control and better hardware is not going to help the situation at all, it'd be like adding fuel to a fire, a fire that PC started and is literaly dumping gallons of fuel on every day because PC hardware manufactures don't give a DAMM about the vidiya industry and their consumers a extremely gullible and eat right out of their palms. Nintendo just needs to create a normal console and focus on software, that's it imo. Perhaps a small gimmick, nothing as financially risky as the wiiu gamepad though
>>334457478
>this is a 2016 game
my god
>>334458027
Nintendo can get away with not having DA BESTES GRAFFIX EVAR because they are all about unique art styles.
The only time they will have to actually bust ass is with a metroid or the new zelda they'll create after aonuma's latest folly forces the board/ceo to finally can his ass.
This will be a godsend to smaller or more budget conscious devs.
Games that go for art and playstyles will outnubmer the buggy badly produced AAA stuff and they can have a fat market all to themselves, leaving sony and ms to their sparse AAA games and tiny puddle of whales.
>>334457923
Only in markets where DVDs were seen as AWESOME. Like Japan.
The DVD functionality failed in most countries where the vcr was still king.
The system sold on hype and downright brilliant behind the scenes moves.
That and they basically bought the entire generation by buying exclusivity for most companies and strong arming others. Ballsy as fuck and pure nintendo back in the 80's.
Except instead of forcing them all, they paid them all. And when they had market dominance THEN they started squeezing their balls.
The shitty piece of tech also helped sink many a dev and contract the the console market. But it helped push the DS to be the most profitable and prolific console to this day.
>>334457535
>it's okay to state shit games, multiplats and HD ports when Nintendo does it.
>>334458461
>PS4 might have "much more games" than the Wii U, but 90% of them are dumbshit like Need for Speed or Assassin's Creed, and the other 10% are on PC.
>>334458653
Those ports are of 10 year old games.
And the only 'shit' game on that list was Game and Wario. The others range from okay to 10/10 amazing
>>334455618
not him but XCX is pretty good, one of the best games in 2015, bayo 1 is good.
you've got shit taste, that's all
>>334458319
>You're aware they only did that for the Japanese sales right?
Given how much better 3DS is doing over the Wii U, I'm sure it's just for sales in general.
>Animal Crossing is a handheld series now.
And why is that? It wasn't one before. Are traditional Kirby games also just "a handheld series now"? How about Metroid? Wii U hasn't even seen a standard fucking Zelda game that isn't a port and all signs are starting to point towards it never getting an exclusive Zelda, spinoff or not.
>Compared to other publishers, that's pretty middle of the pack.
Nintendo isn't other publishers. Nintendo is huge and has loads of various teams all dedicated to different projects, and that's not including all of their deals with third party devs, and they need all of that because they basically have to support all of their hardware alone. This is below par for them.
>>334458572
If they're not going for better graphics then why have a powerful Polaris gpu?
P O K E M O N R P G
>>334458127
The console that gaurauntees their game will sell. So far the ps4 only garauntees that yearly installments of dudebro games sell and nothing else can break even.
>>334458717
Lets go through the top games on PS4
1 Call of Duty: Black Ops 3
2 Grand Theft Auto V
3 FIFA 16
4 Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
5 Star Wars Battlefront (2015)
6 FIFA 15
7 Fallout 4
8 Destiny
9 The Last of Us
10 Watch Dogs
11 Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
12 Far Cry 4
13 Assassin's Creed: Unity
14 Batman: Arkham Knight
15 Call of Duty: Ghosts
16 Minecraft
17 Tom Clancy's The Division
18 NBA 2K16
19 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
20 Battlefield 4
21 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
22 Madden NFL 16
23 Assassin's Creed Syndicate
24 Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor
25 FIFA 14
26 inFAMOUS: Second Son
27 Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
28 Killzone: Shadow Fall
29 Mortal Kombat X
30 NBA 2K15
Which of these games is
1: Good
2: Not available on PC
>>334458765
If you're a nintendo fanboy, maybe.
I bought the WiiU only for Bayonetta collection.
Also tried XCX, W101, Smash and TTT2
Only W101 delivered, XCX was a bland disappointment, Smash is just a shallow wannabe fightan and TTT2 community on WiiU is nonexistent.
In the end, WiiU is just as much of a Bayonetta machine like PS4 is a Bloodborne one. At least the latter will get the better version of Persona and FFXV (until the PC version comes out).
Overall it's the shittiest console among the 3.
>>334459007
What the fuck are you talking about anon
>>334458931
How do you define better graphics?
>>334458929
>And why is that?
Again, Japan.
>Nintendo isn't other publishers. Nintendo is huge and has loads of various teams all dedicated to different projects
They really aren't that big. Ubisoft probably has more raw manpower than Nintendo but they clearly lack the management and communication Nintendo has.
>>334459094
You should try other things. Splatoon, Tropical Freeze, and Pikmin 3 are nice.
>>334459050
9, 11, 26, now 29.
Also Bloodborne, but of course you brought up the sales of the games, not their actual quality.
Shitposting faggot.
>>334446014
It's not fake you retard
>>334458572
>This will be a godsend to smaller or more budget conscious devs.
>Games that go for art and playstyles will outnubmer the buggy badly produced AAA stuff and they can have a fat market all to themselves, leaving sony and ms to their sparse AAA games and tiny puddle of whales.
It's quite hilarious how you actually you think Zelda is somehow not a AAA game despite being in development for 5+ years and that it'll somehow lead other developers by example. The logical leaps here are truly amazing.
>That and they basically bought the entire generation by buying exclusivity for most companies and strong arming others.
>buying exclusivity
You really have no idea what you're talking about, absolutely no clue. Stop posting, please.
>>334459050
The majority of people like to play shit games, same goes for literally every single platform right now. The difference some platforms have choice to play those games or additional exclusives
>>334459123
Spending a disproportionate amount of time on visuals and trying to use every last drop of horsepower
>>334441187
vulkan schmulkan
>neofag
>>334441187
Oh man, I'm eager for all the dissapointment threads
>>334444285
fanboyism knows no bounds.
>>334444869
You realize sony doesn't make games right?
By ps5 they still won't
It'll still be a cult for retards that lovd getting cuckdd
>>334459272
>It's quite hilarious how you actually you think Zelda is somehow not a AAA game despite being in development for 5+ years
AAA games are determined by budgets and Nintendo doesn't do AAA. Zelda might be AA though.
>>334459272
>It's quite hilarious how you actually you think Zelda is somehow not a AAA game despite being in development for 5+ years and that it'll somehow lead other developers by example. The logical leaps here are truly amazing.
Are you fucking retarded? The amount of time and effort they pissed away on yet another more then likely weak entry into the weakening Zelda franchise does not = the AAA that we are all fucking talking about.
We all know what that AAA thing is.
It's a stupid fucking marketing/boardroom term for how much money is pissed away on a game.
As a matter of fact. What was your fucking point with that post?
As I was saying, nintendo's reliance on art style over the kind of GRAPHICS that are pushed by most will be a godsend.
>You really have no idea what you're talking about, absolutely no clue. Stop posting, please.
With that post, you've outed yourself as the dumbest motherfucker on this entire fucking board and that's saying something.
>>334459573
Sony owns studios, though, so they do make games. Their studios just aren't the sole supporters of their consoles, unlike Nintendo, and also unlike Nintendo they've always presented themselves as hardware makers first and foremost.
>>334459573
>I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about please rape my face
>>334457535
director's cut was terrible.
>>334452210
a ported Sm4sh is rumored to be a launch title
>>334459675
Sony's success is because they opened their arms to third party developers and still do, they don't need to strong arm developers or buy superficial exclusivity like the case of Rise of the Tomb Raider and Microsoft because developers have been coming to Sony since the PS1 days because offering them an accessible platform and favourable working conditions has been their business model since the first Playstation. I don't think you understand how risky and counter productive and expensive buying exclusivity is.
>>334459606
>>334459675
Zelda will not be a AA game, most if not all AA games now a days are ambitious handheld games like MonHun/Gravity Rush. With that being said, Zelda is probably close to a AAA title for all we know, the times its been under development is already a strong indicator, Nintendo has been pumping money into this for ages and we have no idea on what scale the game is on or how many people have been working on it but its pretty reasonable to assume a lot have and its marketing budget will be huge.
I wonder where all their traffic is going?
Can you think WHERE the neofag posters are going /v/?
>>334460334
>ost if not all AA games now a days are ambitious handheld games like MonHun/Gravity Rush.
Not even close.
>>334460490
>There will never be some sort of way to filter the b& through something like photo ID or some form of approval
>>334457763
>They're going to keep backwards compatibility with the Wii U
Yeah? Where is that confirmed? Are they going to use the PPC750 again? A different Power core? Software emulation? Which?
>>334448589
Retard detected
What do you think Nintendo's next move will be when the NX fails?
Keep at it making another console or try to change it up and do something different?
>>334461056
If the NX was a total failure, I think maybe there would be some evaluation as to whether to put out another console again. If it doesn't sell that well but is still profitable, they will keep putting consoles out.
>>334459113
Please leave Australia alone, America
>>334449127
You're the retard if you think it's all going to cost that much
>>334461056
It won't fail so no need to worry pony
>>334449415
>retard spergout
>>334450513
That didn't come from Neogaf you retard
>>334452210
Spike Chunsoft said they're working on it
It's probably going to be a Danganronpa game.
>>334449415
>It doesn't even matter what the system is at this point, its done for. Its another gimmick that will be laughed at and ignored completely.
But the Wii U gamepad was great, the Wii should have had one from the start
>>334455618
And are exclusives. Your point is?
>>334461056
Keep making the same mistakes and disappoint more fans so they move on from the below par company.
Its going to be a fun ride watching it die hard and fast because it won't have scalpers to give preorders numbers.
>tfw nx and ps4k is the same thing
>tfw crash bandicoot and ape escape by nintendo
>tfw sony amiibos
>NX rumors
I'd rather wait for E3 for concrete information.
Daily reminder that people said the same thing about the Wii U -- thinking that it wouldn't be an overclocked Wii and would be able to compete on somewhat even ground with the Xbone and PS4
>>334463608
>sony amiibos
Yeah like sackboy and uhh...
>>334455863
A film today, even if it makes money, is considered a failure if it doesn't make back three times its budget. A console works the same way. Even if they profit, if it doesn't take the marketshare or make back triple it's money, it's a failure.
>>334455150
kek
>Same specs as PS4K
The shitstorm will be unreal. E3 is going to be the death of /v/
