So with the Doom open beta being shit, how about we discuss an actual GOOD arena shooter? Post favorite guns, maps, whatever.
Dead gaem
>>334386546
I played some UT2004 the other night, it's still as fun as I remember it being nearly a decade ago. Just a shame the genre is so small.
>>334386638
I got turn that on again. I that shit DOOM 4 beta just made me miss the old days. I miss my Biorifle more than a dead family member.
>>334386638
Yeah, up until the beta of Doom I was holding out the tiniest spark of hope that everything we'd seen had been completely changed and there would actually be a AAA arena style shooter.
Oh well, at least I live an hour away from Epic's hq so I have good ping to the only UT4 server with a decent pop 24/7
>>334386546
Where the fuck is my Morpheus remake?
>>334386546
Here are the freetard options
Xonotic
Nexuiz
OpenArena
The first two have a guided mode on the rocket launcher, makes it really fun to use
>>334386852
You could always import it into the game yourself. I think that's how basically all the maps are getting in.
>>334386863
I don't think Nexuiz is free.
Also Warsow and Red Eclipse are two good free ones, although I think they're both a little dead.
Why did you post Unreal when talking about good arena shooters? I don't understand.
>>334387198
>xD
start playing it www.epicgames.com/unrealtournament/
>>334387318
I played some of the new UT, and even hosted a server for awhile. While it's better than the other UT games it's still an order of magnitude worse than Quake is.That being said if you have >fun with it I'm not going to stop you.
>>334387028
Yeah those are pretty dead, I was posting the ones that still have a decent player base.
>I don't think Nexuiz is free
It is free.
Some other company made a terribad console CryEngine version of it but the original is still free ( http://www.alientrap.org/games/nexuiz )
>>334387198
Anon, these days "good" arena shooters means "is an arena shooter and it's possible to find a game"
Also UT is actually good. Would be god tier if explosive jumping was more viable though.
>>334387421
UT has always been worse than quake
>>334387424
Ah ok yeah I was thinking about the cryengine one. I got it in some bundle years back and remember it being atrocious.
>>334387516
I know, where did I say otherwise?
>>334387516
Literally nobody is arguing with that.
>>334387546
I don't get why devs think it makes sense to nerf all the fun parts of arena shooters
They have a small playerbase anyway so why get rid of the people who actually like them?
>>334386546
Why did Id have to go fuck up Doom? The name alone would have saved the genre.
>>334387684
They try to make changes to appeal to a wider audience. What ends up happening though, is they end up getting rejected by the people who actually like arena shooters and still don't manage to hold on to the more casual players for more than like a week because rather than catering to one demographic or the other, they cater to neither.
>>334387684
No clue. Sometimes I think it's just stupidity but sometimes I think they legitimately think through their decisions and just make really bad ones.
>>334387772
They gave the multiplayer to a company that did halo 2, 4, and COD ghosts. When people are saying it feels like the bastard child of COD and halo that's because that's what it literally is.
>>334387904
>They gave the multiplayer to a company
That's the first I'm hearing about that. I can't comprehend why they would think that was a decent idea. They should have known this game would be judged on the multiplayer.
Fuck it all comes down to that they should have known better.
>>334387806
>>334387904
I-I was hoping they had learned by now ;_;
Anyway I can set up a Nexuiz server if anyone is interested in playing
>>334388139
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certain_Affinity
>>334388139
>>334388187
I just find it fucking hilarious that all the preorder bonuses they're hoping to use to entice people are multiplayer shit and the multiplayer is this bad. I bet whoever decided to offer "DOOM 4 BETA ACCESS" with whatever game that was bundled with way back is kicking themselves now.
>>334388303
>give crucial multiplayer to glorified map makers
>>334388537
Kek they're also fucking horrible at actually programming multiplayer. If I remember right my halo fanboy friend was bitching so hard about how badly multiplayer in the Master Chief collection was programmed.
iD are fucking dumbasses for hiring them.
>>334388329
I think it was a new wolfenstein, which is funny because that game was actually good.
Fuck /v/ I just want to go fast and shoot people with rockets. I don't think that's a lot to ask
>>334388780
Oh yeah. Maybe I should go replay that just to restore any faith I had that this game might be at all decent.
Also lol that screenshot. How the fuck do you argue that having less options to have to choose from at any one moment does anything but lower the skill ceiling? Jesus I actually enjoy tf2 clones to an extent but arguing that they aren't way more casual than pure arena shooters is moronic.
>>334386546
>mfw they acted double jump because people don't know how to rocket jump anymore
>>334389275
Literally the worst double jump I've ever used in a game. Holy hell they ACTUALLY put momentum ONLY in the double jump but not in the normal movement just so you couldn't change direction midair so little timmy would be able to get his sick 360 noscope.
Peak UT99:
>Morpheus
>Fatman
>Instagib shock rifles
>Lowgrav
I'm not wrong
I haven't hosted in a week due to my fucked up work schedule and some health related things lately but hey
Hey /v/, since September 28th 2010, I've been hosting servers for UT99 and UT2004, and now I host Jedi Knight III: Jedi Academy with JK2 maps as well.
My User Name: InspecktahDeck - Steam Group Name: Speck's Unreal /V/idya. You don’t need the steam version to play, but having steam lets you receive announcements when we play. Discussion boards are now on the group page for users to discuss the games, servers, or suggest tweaks/changes, with some other fun stuff. If you have any problems joining, please post them in the thread, or steam group.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/specksunreal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrIej3ktt-g
>>334389103
It's classic reddit cocksucking, they just want to be contrarian to whoever DARES say anything bad about their favourite devs.
>>334390383Right on, my man
>>334390383
sweet
>Decide to give this a try due to my incredibly disappointment with DOOM
>The epic games launcher wont start
>The fixes for it wont work
Ok.
>>334390383
Hey, I know you - you're the UT '99 steam group guy! You're doing god's work, man, keep it the fuck up.
Is the DOOM beta really that bad? I installed it last night, but I haven't tried it yet. I was going to have a go, but right now I'm playing Megaman 2. I'm secretly afraid it will be shit.
Say it ain't so, /v/. My friend said he didn't like it, but he unironically thinks that DICE is the savior of FPS games, so I usually just do the opposite of what he says
>>334386638
It's because it's hard to come up with innovative ideas for new Arena Shooters while keeping the gameplay balanced, also time have changed and very few people care about the genre anymore and casuals would rather play COD or other """strategic""" games
>>334390383
Truly the hero /v/ needs. I hope the family health things get better!
I'll do my best to be in UT2004 on monday
>>334391097
I'm an iddrone who went in with incredibly low expectations and was still disappointed.
>>334390610
>>334390880
See y'all around soon! Glad people are always interested. I just posted the schedule for tomorrow and next week.
>>334390930
I haven't played UT4 yet, but I know that UT99 and UT2004 rarely have issues on modern systemsnot that you shouldn't keep trying to play UT4 if you're interested
>>334391064
It's all about havin' fun with people brah
Peace to all UT players from a Quake 3 guy. Hope your new game is going well.
>>334391216
I remember the old days where Quake bros would come into my empty threads and shit on UT, and then UT fans would come out of the woodwork to defend it and net me a ton of new members by keeping the thread on the front page.Who am I kidding, we all know they were false-flagging UT fans, either way it was fun
I feel bad because Quake looks fun as shit but I usually stick to like 2-3 series per multiplayer genre. I can have fun with Street Fighter and Soul Calibur but I just really love Smash and MK too much.
>>334386546
Arena shooters reached thier peek over 15 years ago. I doubt we'll ever get games on the same level for the genre again. The best we can hope for is clones with "muh graphics". The only good Renaissance was from quake live but it's been a few years since I've played or been to quake con and from what I've heard it's been on the decline for awhileut99=quake live>quake 3>ut04>>>>halo 2>>>>>>shit>>>>>>>modern areana shooters
>>334391497
>Who am I kidding, we all know they were false-flagging UT fans, either way it was fun
I can 100% confirm that I am a Quake player who used to do this because I'm 100% autisticand just wanted my dying game to get more players. rip ;_;
So how is new UT alpabeta doing?
>>334391690
I feel you bro.I'm just as gay because I remember getting a little bootyblasted at those posts
Nothing compared to having CP spammed in our threads on our Christmas Eve special. That was fucking actually disgusting.
I'm always getting shit on in /v/ and /co/ for my opinions but it was weird to see so many people hop in and say things like "this was the last thread that deserved this".
Enough blogposting though how do y'all motherfuckers like UT4?
I think the gameplay looks solid and some of the maps are neat but I can't see myself playing it until I get a comptuer that isn't shit and the game is finished.
>>334391580
halo 2 was shit
Would anyone be into a CryEngine-based, actually-good arena shooter?
It's pay-what-you-want (including $0) to get started developing with it. The Doom beta fail got me mad enough to make a whole FPS with help from a couple buddies, and I have a lot of time on my hands right now
>>334392074
>>334391732
Its pretty good. The main problem I have is the translocator. I actually really wish they'd just remove it and make hammer jumping good, but I see why its in because it does improve ctf by effectively slowing down the flag carrier without removing his combat speed. If they'd just increase the time until you can blink to it itd be perfect.
>>334392814
hell yeah montherfucker
>>334392814
do it dawg
>>334392872
>>334394385
That's what I'm saying. I just got the SDK and I'm going to start fucking around with it.
It'll probably have minecraft tier models for a bit but I can update those later
