>it's a bethesda episode
>iDtech with every file archived and locked away
>including the fucking config
>can't change 'advanced' options
>can't strafejump
>60fps max
>insane input lag
>can't turn off blurry AA shit
>game is designed around joystick + autoaim
>no mod tools
Anyone else hyped as fuck for this game? I'm going to the midnight release, reddit!
Is this going to be the most expensive failure in the last 10 years?
>>334359881
I think you need sleep.
>>334359914
Pretty much. On plebbit, people are disillusioned into thinking this game will thrive on PC. If they are actually right about that, I'm basically going to write off any shooter that comes afterward. We will be stuck with games that have shitty movement mechanics, with CS GO being the last game where you can barely pull off a fucking strafejump.
>>334360006
>neo-Doom
>Arena shooter
Like come on now, it's clearly a Halo clone.
>>334360417
Halo Clone with CoD perks, loadouts and literal cheats in multiplayer.
One of the loadout items you can get is a fucking wallhack that lasts 30 seconds and then has a 30sec cooldown.
>>334360006
I feel like people are going to buy and play it mainly for the campaign mode
Probably won't be nowhere near as big of a hit as they expect but it will do decently
>>334359881
>People will start memeing Doom 3 was the best thing ever after this one tanks
This is what annoys me the most for some reason. Doom 3 was literally D44M of its time.
>>334360727
It was.
Problem is everyone can agree that D33M is objectively more of a DOOM game than D44M
>>334360794
I sincerely cannot. Doom 3 was poor man's System Shock/Half-Life more than anything; just like D44M is poor man's Halo. They're different types of shit but it's still shit.
>>334361014
At least Doom 3 had full mod support and even gave us Dark Project and the Event Horizon mod.
It also introduced Carmack's Reverse to videogames, before Doom 3 that shit was literally copyrighted by some Amerifat Jew.
This shit won't amount to anything. It's literal garbage.
![1459203687937[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WsLwkay.jpg "1459203687937[1].jpg")
>>334359881
>including the fucking config
>>334361272
Which modpack?
>>334359881
how come everything in this game looks like plastic models, is it the new rendering or excessive filters? doesn't feel gritty enough to be Doom
>>334359881
>be old Doom fan
>Doom movie comes out
>it's awful
wakemeup.jpg
>fun, tight modding community
>Brutal Doom becomes inexplicably popular
>community flooded with annoying twerps
>"does it work with Brutal Doom?" "Brutal Doom so cool guis!"
cantwakeup.jpg
>Hear about new Doom 4
>concept artwork leaks, its literally CoD
>"good news guys! That concept was scrapped. We are going back to the roots for Doom4"
>whew! Close shave there!
>new Doom alpha. You are invited!
>play it
>it's not Doom. It's shit
save me.jpg
>>334359881
Crazy how they managed to miss on all the things that made the original such a success. Including modding. It's really painful to see all my favorite franchises of the past get destroyed every year.
What do you think will be next? I'm betting on Lemmings myself, its time they make a multiplayer cover shooter out of it where you can kill enemy Lemmings by shoveling under their feet.
>>334361548
brutal doom is a nice litmus test to spot plebs tbqh
>>334361548
Welcome to the game industry of today, where good things that become popular automatically gains a following of retarded reddit children and decent things becomes milked by companies. I am still salty about that reddit single handedly destroyed STALKER Lost Alpha. Fucking assholes.
>>334360417
>it's clearly a Halo clone.
If only. I mean, good old Bungie's Halo clone.
But it's kind of a 343's Halo clone.
>>334361774
>I am still salty about that reddit single handedly destroyed STALKER Lost Alpha.
What happened?
game is good, people who say otherwise are crybabies nostalgic fags
>>334361774
>I am still salty about that reddit single handedly destroyed STALKER Lost Alpha.
I've played LA and followed its development on moddb and I have not heard about this.
>>334361548
>Doom movie comes out
The movie was terrible, but in my opinion it's one of these things that's so bad that they become good again.
You watch it, and the whole time your brain is going 'what the fuck were they thinking' and it's just such a mess it becomes charming again.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/4ev0tr/a_poem_from_the_perspective_of_cunts/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/4eriie/little_heads_up_brace_yourself_for_new_it_scks/
Wow, you guys aren't kidding about leddit praising this.
>>334362221
I fucking hate reddit with a passion. It is like a place to show off how fucking retarded you are.
>>334361924
Game is slow and boring, hopefully single player will be amazing.
>>334362372
bait
>>334362221
>D*rn it all to h*ck.
My face will never recover from the eternal cringe. Why did you force this upon me? What have I ever done to you?
>>334362372
Honestly, it feels as if they've upped the movement speed a bit. I'm okay with it, it doesn't feel too slow for me anymore.
Loadouts, hacks, and glory kills are a much bigger issue to be honest.
>fucking id of all people outsourcing the multiplayer portion of the game
>the creators of Quake III Arena, one of the most loved multiplayer games, outsource the multiplayer for Doom 4
>and to THESE people
>>334359881
how the fuck did this make it past quality checks? looks like a left over asset from a halo sequel and has no place in the doom universe. doom guns should be bulky, machismo and rusted. the sci-fi elements take a backseat to the hell/horror ones.
people will call me autistic for this, but it shows the game has no cohesive identity at all
>>334362221
>they think people hate it because 'it's different'
Why are you comparing it to Doom 1/2 which is 2.5D game from 90s or to Doom 3 which is a horror game with corridors and jumpscares.
Also every single Doom game had a bad multiplayer.
>>334362814
> why compare sequels to what defined the IP
probably b8
>>334362751
You're autistic. I couldnt care about your shit opinions regarding the weapon, equating new doom to halo just makes you autistic, plain and simple.
Kill yourself.
>>334359881
I see John Carmack name attach to this and wonder..
>>334362907
The game changed genre. You don't compare Fallout 3 with Fallout 2.
>>334362296
So it's exactly like 4chan?
>>334362427
>bait
No it's actually my opinion
>>334362945
>John "the failed abortion" Carmack
>>334362991
>You don't compare Fallout 3 with Fallout 2.
Kill yourself millennial scum
>>334362582
That across the map insta kill rail gun is something else. I get having a gauss rifle in games if it's a pick up you can find round the map, but spawning with the strongest gun is retarded.
>>334362814
>Let's throw away everything established by the series but keep the same brand name, which happens to have a huge cult following! Yes, genius!
>>334362991
That was a dick move too, but at least New Vegas was a good game by itself.
>>334362601
>>334363153
>>334363183
>le millennial meme
What year were you born in?
I'm having a lot of fun with this beta and pre-ordered the game
>>334360503
>Halo Clone with CoD perks, loadouts and literal cheats in multiplayer.
You just described Halo 4 and Halo 5.
>>334363251
Doom 3 was a good way by itself too. It was only considered bad by people who expected Doom 2 HD.
Played it as a horror/survival game with an emphasis on shooting, it was fun. Lots of downtime, sure, and story, but it all tied well nicely.
>>334363257
84 you underage piece of shit, thanks for ruining every franchise I loved
>>334363264
Thats funny, because Doom 4's multiplayer is made by the same people who worked on Halo 4 and CoD Ghosts.
>>334359881
>>can't strafejump
Doom didn't have strafejumping.
>>334359881
>insane input lag
i can forgive everything else since it's supposed to be a beta, but this is really terrible. it's impossible to track people that aren't far away.
>>334363264
Never played any Halo other than the first one on PC.
>>334362932
It literally is just a edgy version of Halo. And not even a good one.
>>334363348
People born in 1984 are still millennials, dumbass.
Generation X is 1965 to 1980, you are Generation Y, or a millennial kiddie.
>>334362694
From that they look more like glorified map creators
>>334363112
reddit:
>one person pretends to be retarded, gets a lot of upvotes
>person 2 adds onto his retardedness, gets 90% of the amount of upvotes as person 1
>person 3, 80% upvotes
>repeat
>>334363264
>>334363378
see >>334362694
Doom 4's multiplayer was outsourced to the Halo 4 crew.
>>334363458
Nah, they make the multiplayer functionality for games.
Basically one studio makes the engine, assets and singleplayer campaign, and these guys show up and make the multiplayer - code, balance, backend stuff, design of the servers that will host the whole thing.
>>334363452
>that literal shitposting lie
Millennials are people who grew up during the millennium age, people who were 7 or so years old around 2000. Aka everyone born in 93 or later for starters
>>334363320
Same thing happens here YET AGAIN.
I like how people bitch about it being not hardcore enough and nobody here actually plays Quake Live, instead they collect hats and skins in CSGO/DOTA2.
>>334359881
I hope this will have DENOVO, so it will flop on all levels
>>334359881
What exactly are you expecting from an AAA title?
>>334363540
But this is wrong, imbecile.
Generation We, Global Generation, Generation Next, the Net Generation, Generation Y, Millennials or Echo Boomers are all buzzwords used to describe people who entered the school system and became their own people in the 2000s.
You have the internet, millennial, you were born into it; use it to look up the definitions.
>>334363540
wikipedia says you're wrong ;)
>>334363320
Doom 3 was decent at best, but yes, enjoyable. Honesty, I think that a more polished Doom 3 would have been just fine, Doom 3 didn't miss the point that much, and let's get real, Doom 1/2 is never coming back.
>>334363721
>implying a millennial shithead like him would even bother looking things up
He is taking out of his millennial ass.
>>334363684
>>334363721
>You have the internet, millennial, you were born into it; use it to look up the definitions.
I graduated before internet was even available to common people here, nice shitposting though.
I hope you little shits die painfully and alone, you are everything that's wrong with modern world.
>>334363783
Careful not to cut yourself on that edge, millennial.
>>334359881
>call of duty style movement
>parkour
>mouse smoothing
>two weapons limit
>loadouts, perks, unlocks, weapons are given on start
They should've called it Call of Doom straight away.
>>334363783
>before internet was even available to common people here
A millennial living in Brazil
>>334363783
>i am from a backwards shithole, thus i am better than you
>>334363452
People that are 14 - 28 are gen y you fucking moron.
>>334363834
>two weapons limit
No. No no no no no. Nonoonononononono. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.Say it aint so. Say you are joking.
>>334363783
This. At least most of those fucking faggots will die without ever having seen a chick naked in real life.
>>334363897
>Generation X
>Born: 1966-1976
>Coming of Age: 1988-1994
>Generation Y
>Born: 1977-1994
>Coming of Age: 1998-2006
>Generation Z
>Born: 1995-2012
>Coming of Age: 2013-2020
>>334363940
There is no limit in singleplayer, but there are loadouts in multiplayer.
>>334363940
Only for MP but there's gonna be a classic mode
>>334364012
>Grrrrr those people born a year after me are the worst, THE WORST, a plague on humanity, them and their lesser manufacture date!!!
top kek
also see >>334364032
/v/ is millennial central HQ
>>334364032
Why is gen y so much longer date-wise than gen X?
>>334363834
>call of duty style movement
What the fuck does this even mean? You mean because it doesn't slide around like its Tribes?
>>334364073
>>334364079
I am guessing this is because the only way to change between many weapons on console is a wheel, and the only comfortable way to use a wheel is to slow down time while its visible?
I really wish the gamepad FPS meme would end.
They should have just made this a hero shooter like Overwatch or Battleborn. Would have been a great contrast to the Disney stuff. Imagine having pinkies and other demons as minions, and the then the big baddies and the doom marines are players with stronger abilities. Would have been great.
>>334364123
Ask social scientists. Something about big events influencing popular culture.
Basically it is the skeptical people who became young adult somewhere between the red scare and the internet.
Its slow as fuck. Halo 5 is much faster.
>>334364169
>I really wish the gamepad FPS meme would end.
Consoles don't have KB/M
Most AAA games are made for consoles
Therefore any AAA FPS will not be designed around KB/M
>>334364298
Football Manager, Total War, Civilization, DOTA2 and so on arent designed for consoles, yet they are ambitious and expensive projects.
Contrary to popular belief, you can in fact make a game for PC.
>>334364258
Social science is mostly just a meme. Instead of gen y or gen z or anything people should just say "anyone younger than me is a crazed degenerate and I don't like them"
>>334364130
Look at the shitstorm around fine tuning UE4 movement, even though it's already pretty solid. That's how hard making a good movement system for arena shooter is. They made ok movement for cod style game, but it's just horrible and slow for an oldschool fps.
>>334364349
>Most AAA games
>Most
And I'm not even sure some of those have a big enough budget to qualify as AAA
It's funny that in an attempt to go closer to their roots, they triggered so many fuckboys.
You do realize that Doomguy is a berserker packing man and a half, right? Punching holes in people's torsos is what he does, he's a goddamn space marine. That, sadly, justifies Glory Kills.
It feels like Halo? Bullshit. Maybe if Halo were mixed with Quake and had a defected baby that suffers from demon tumors.
You chodes have a real bad habit of donning nostalgia goggles and forgetting the journey some of these franchises have taken. Doom 3 (which I assume is most of your firsts) was a departure from the original Doom format, which is actually why I didn't play it much. There are tons of horror games out there, and I didn't buy Doom for jumpscares. Doom is about being an arbiter of death, riding the night train to hell and back ripping the guts from every piece of shit demon that gets in your way.
The competitive multiplayer of this game will be second to the campaign, as it always was with Doom.
Looking forward to co-op, too.
>>334361774
Explain
>>334364609
Nothing justifies lazy ass boring glory kills, nice meme tho m8
>>334362601
Makes sense. Kovic loves Halo
>>334364609
The only time you killed demons with your barehands in Doom was if you had a berserker pack powerup, which were not particularly common and generally not even worth the risk of having to engage in melee range.
>Punching holes in people's torsos is what he does, he's a goddamn space marine
No, it's not. Pretty much all the time you're playing you're shooting things, probably with a shotgun.
>That, sadly, justifies Glory Kills.
No, it doesn't.
>I didn't buy Doom for jumpscares
Didn't stop Doom 1 and 2 from having plenty of monster closets, traps, and mostly in Doom 2 very very dark areas.
You talk like so many other people I've seen that say the same shit that makes me think they never actually played ANY of the Doom games all that much.
>he thinks Doom is just rip n tear
Confirmed for underage Brutal Doom boy
>>334364857
You can't just port Doom 2 on new engine and call it a day.
Very few people would play it.
All in all it's still better than counter-strike/call of duty clones. I'd rather play a halo clone without health regen instead.
>>334362991
yeah, and everyone hated that genre change because it didn't feel like doom anymore
>>334363579
>Same thing happens here YET AGAIN.
Sure, Doom 4 looks like a good Halo game for PC.
I want a free for all multiplayer run&gun game with seamless drop in and out of matches, low downtime when you die, and no hackers.
If this is it, I'll be happy. Couldn't care less if about Romero's legacy or whatever.
>>334364962
That's what new doom already is. All the prebaked rip and tear animations you want, just press X.
>>334359881
>call this trash a cod clone
>little kids tell me it's apparently more like quake and UT than halo and cod
>ask them if they've ever played those games
>they say no
The only people excited for this are little cod kids that want to seem cool for liking an "older game" like doom.
>>334365197
>everyone hated that genre change
And yet, it sold multiple times as many copies as the old games.
Your definition of "everyone" seems flawed.
>>334365129
I would absolutely play an HD 3D version of classic DOOM, and I'm sure many other DOOM fans would too.
>>334365329
Normies don't count as humans
>>334365129
>You can't just port Doom 2 on new engine and call it a day.
That's not at all what I said to do and nothing I said implied it. Your reasoning in that post was just retarded which is what my main gripe was about, and really it leads me to believe you only ever played any Doom game for a very short amount of time and then based most of your understanding off of vague memories of your playtime and your recollection of that silly Doom comic. Naturally this I took offense to since you're talking like you know what you're talking about, yet you sound like you're fucking clueless.
>>334365276
You can play Unreal 4 right now, for free.
It looks better, runs better, controls better, has solid AI bots to practice with and has no normie casuals in it.Also it already suffers from the issue that all people playing are very good, so you get shit on at all times and can't really get into it.
>>334365345
If that were true, their marketing research woulds how it, and a DLC that is basically "Doom 2 in the Doom 4 engine" will come out for $15.
Unless you think that your understanding of the market is better than that of trained and paid professionals who spent months researching it.
it's bretty gud
if only they added bunny hop and rocket laucnh it would be 10/10
>mfw I'm enjoying the game
It's a solid shooter. If you let the brand name stuck to it bother you that much, you might have autism.
>>334365129
>This restaurant doesn't have what I want so I'll just eat this steaming bowl of shit. It's better than nothing, right?
You. Now.
>>334364774
You don't get a handfull of vertebrae by being a nice person, anon.
>>334364857
Doom wasn't a horror game. If you were spooked by Doom, I don't know what to say to you. Sure you were descending into the depths of madness and hell, but you always had your shotgun between you and the unending armies of the dead.
The real reason people should be complaining about Glory kills is that they can get you killed if you accidentally begin one when fighting more than one person.
The close up attacks were always satisfying in these early shooter games, like the gloves of the necromancer in heretic. You just latch on and shake violently until they are dead, I do not see much of a difference between that and glory kills.
>>334365479
rocket jump*
>>334365489
>food analogy and feces analogy at the same time
C-C-C-COMBO
>>334365352
Aren't you the subhuman in this scenario?
>>334365247
I know pham. I wasnt talking about D44M.
>>334365472
I was saying this as somebody that likes to play video games and not what would get the most shekels in Bethesda's pocket
>>334365558
Why would you suspect that culturally and intellectually refined individuals who prefer 2D pixel graphicked 3D-world FPSes where you can't even shoot up or down would be subhumans compared to cawwadooty normals?
Is there any fucking reason at all to use the lightning gun? It deals pitiful damage even if your aim is on point. The only real application I've found for it is using the secondary fire in closed spaces to electrify an entire hallway, but that's situational at best.
>>334365479
>bunny hop
You can enable it via console.
>>334365641
>ammo boxes give ammo
# tips #wisdom #themoreyouknow #science #blacklivesmatter
>>334365729
It's stronger than it's quake live counterpart.
Probably you're just using it incorrectly, it's not a close range weapon.
>>334365760
how?
>>334365641
>>334365857
Notice how it says standard weapons. This means the ammo boxes won't replenish ammo for pickup weapons like the gauss cannon.
It's still pretty self evident, but there might be some normies who do not know simple game design like that.
>>334365493
>Doom wasn't a horror game. If you were spooked by Doom, I don't know what to say to you.
That your opinion of what is or isn't a horror game is completely irrelevant to the fact that Doom has many elements often found in horror games. It has jump scares, it has dark, poorly lit areas and even some pitch black ones, it has scary looking monsters. It's stupid to try and argue otherwise for whatever dumbass point you want to make.
>The real reason people should be complaining about Glory kills is that they can get you killed if you accidentally begin one when fighting more than one person.
Maybe the real reason people are complaining about glory kills is because they have no place in a Doom game and in addition to this they needlessly take control away from the character. None of the previous Doom games do anything like this, unless if you want to count Doom 3's handful of short cutscenes or the text scrolls at the end of episodes in Doom 1 and 2. Past those instances control is never removed from the player for some stupid reason, like "cuz it looks cool."
>the gloves of the necromancer in heretic
Doom isn't Heretic.
>>334359881
>get open beta popup
>install because why the fuck not
>run game
>big fat notice about some fucking nvidia gpu issue
>mfw 750ti
>STUTTER SEQUENCE ENGAGE
>it's actually so bad shit just hangs
>close
>uninstall
>contemplate suicide
And people wonder why the fuck I'm such a retrofag.
>>334365884
Well it's not a long range weapon either, as the beam has a maximum range.
Furthermore, the maps are designed in ways that the average engagement distance is either close quarters or far, not a lot of medium going around.
>>334365405
I really want to like UT4. It has a few issues that make it not fun for me personally, though.
I dislike the translocator. Fun weapons, but people use it for movement. It's not a tool that's useful in many situations, instead it's mostly a way to get around faster. That's not fun. Again, you can use it in combat, to get through grates/windows and so on, and this is great and perfect for such a weapon.
But using it to move around faster sucks balls.
That's exacerbated by the fact that weapon switching IS MOTHERFUCKING SLOW. Seriously, switching weapons in UT4 is painful.
Those two nitpicks are issues that annoy me enough to not enjoy the game. There are a few other things that don't bother me all that much, the dodge mechanics is a bit weird and uncomfortable but just takes getting used to, projectile speed seems too slow as well, and I think movement speed could use an increase.
It's weird. It doesn't feel as great as UT99 or UT2k4.
>>334365484
How old are you? What is your IQ? What system were you playing on? These are 3 very important questions that are extremely important to truly understand why you posted that.
>>334365359
Wrong guy, m8. I'm the guy you were originally replying to, my response is here. >>334365493
As far as my time playing Doom, no amount of speculation can take away the excitement I had installing Doom off of floppys, or the mixed disappointment in being given a copy of Doom 2 shareware as my first taste of the sequel.
Those classic shooters were fun because they were story-lite, they came with no baggage. You were an unapologetic one-man force of nature.
Most of our current play experience of the new Doom is the competitive multiplayer, which the series was NEVER about.
>>334366051
Slow weapons switch and small player base are the only problems I have with UT4. Not a single other issue.
They really should do some promotion campaigns for it, hire bunch of popular youtubers to play, something like that.
>>334366064
28
Haven't taken a proper IQ test, so I cannot answer that
What system were I playing on at what time in my life? Because I've played on most that exist, though nowadays I primarily play on PC
You know, if ID came out and said: "We love the arena FPS genre and thus made a game, it's called 'WHATEVER'!" this would be fucking great. But they had to name it Doom. And it's a very fucking poor Doom successor so far.
>>334365951
you only need these shitty tips if your game is badly designed. you can easily communicate this kind of thing with visuals/sounds.. you see this as well with a "low health!" HUD popup, instead of just a noise or flashing your healthbar..
its the little things
>>334366182
This
>>334366163
Playerbase might pick up once the game gets into beta and a few promotional tournaments.
Again, UT4 is fucking great, but I think the Translocator should be a situation tool that's only used on occasion. Using it to traverse the map in general is fucking painful.
As you can see that one issue bugs the hell out of me, it's really annoying.
>>334366183
Why is clearer conveyance a bad thing? I'd understand it if it was distracting, but the low health warning is pretty small on the HUD.
>>334365969
Assuming you read what you replied to about glory kills (which it doesn't look like you did,) I also have the complaint that it takes control away, and has already gotten me killed a handful of times.
As far as the gloves of the heretic go, don't pretend that early ID shooters weren't reskins. It's the same thing as the doom chainsaw. If you weren't supposed to be punching the shit out of things, why was it an option.
>>334366163
>>334366051
How about duels that suck ass due to lack of maps designed for it and jerky character movement? Also Rocket launcher has extremely slow firing rate and devs won't just fix it.
>>334366182
It doesn't even classify as an arena shooter, whether it's called Doom or not.
>>334366068
> no amount of speculation can take away the excitement I had installing Doom off of floppys, or the mixed disappointment in being given a copy of Doom 2 shareware as my first taste of the sequel.
None of this says anything about your actual playtime of the games or even your understanding of what those games was or wasn't "about." To me this is just backpedaling after you went on a rant about how the player character is some kind of superpowered space marine out of 40k, who goes around tearing guys in half, when again that happens in very rare circumstances and the vast majority of your playtime is shooting things.
>the competitive multiplayer, which the series was NEVER about.
Doom shipped with deathmatch. IIRC Doom is actually the first game to even have this multiplayer mode.
>>334360586
that just means get rid of all the excess crap on multi and give everybody all the weapons instead of just 2
ATLEAST give the choice
How is this game like CoD
Enemies light up to indicate that meleeing them will initiate a glory kill. Just shoot them at this point if you don't want to get locked in the animation.
The ideal solution would of course be separate keys for regular melee and glory kill activation.
>>334366347
>I also have the complaint that it takes control away
You don't say anything like that in any of your posts except this one. You complain that it gets you killed and that's it.
>>334359881
duke nukem forever 2 the electric boogaloo
>>334366068
>the mixed disappointment in being given a copy of Doom 2 shareware as my first taste of the sequel.
>being given a copy of Doom 2 shareware
>Doom 2 shareware
>Doom 2
>shareware
ITT: Millennials pretending to be OGs.
>>334366452
Low TTK, loadouts, aimed at the console crowd
>>334366452
Well it's shit for one
>>334363153
thanks for the template mate, I feel it will come in hand in the next months to come
>>334359881
It's pretty fun desu
>>334366634
CoD isn't shit tho
>>334366725
Yeah I guess you're right. The first CoD was pretty cool.
>>334366546
Are you implying that if Doom were made into a multiplayer title with all the damage values of the weapons left intact, the TTK wouldn't be low?
>>334359881
Wow I'm really liking the new Master Chief design. Bold new direction.
>>334366767
Black ops 3 isn't shit
Looks like shit for the reqs it demands.
>Expecting this to be anything but shit when id haven't put out a good game since 1999.
Why do you do it to yourselves, /v/?
>>334366068
>Those classic shooters were fun because they were story-lite, they came with no baggage.
you talk about those shooters like they existed in pre-historic times, when the guy who made them is not even retired yet. are you sure you are not underage?
>>334366470
>That, sadly, justifies Glory Kills.
>sadly
I established my opinion it in the first post.
>>334366489
You are correct, Doom 2 didn't have a shareware release, it was the original. It was Wolfenstein I had on floppys.
I think some slack is allowed to be cut here, it was around twenty years ago.
>>334366295
because its not clear. thats why it has to be done in the laziest way possible with text. good design tells players this immediately/subconsciously without the need to read prompts
imagine instead of the hitmarker/sound in COD, it said "you hit an enemy!"
it shows the laziness at play here from the devs.. but hopefully that means all of IDs budget is going toward a decent singleplayer
I regret the short amount of time playing this and regret even more the two hours it took to download.
This accuratly sums up everything wrong with modern shooters while at the same time destroying everything I love about Doom.
It's a complete shitter, but there's still hope for a decent SP campaign, right?
Right?
I can hope...
Still better than doom 3 multiplayer.
>>334366932
It is clearer than having the healthbar flash, though. If that was the case, you'd have to briefly glance at the healthbar from time to time, taking your focus ever so slightly away from the action. When it is explicitly stated to you that you are about to get fucked by the HUD, you don't have to lose focus to get that information.
>>334366847
Underage was half a life ago.
The real question is what the hell I'm doing arguing about videogames at 8AM.
>>334367025
>2 hours to download <15GB
I'm truly sorry about your internet connection, brah.
>>334363264
At least H5 allows you to play without perks and loadouts in the majority of modes.
>>334365405
ut4 is shit though. no matter what tweaks i attempt it always feels like floaty garbage, the meme movement hasnt improved since ut2k4, and the weapons are boring
>>334367046
In just the same way that gonorrhoea is better than AIDS. I'd rather not have either, m8.
>>334359881
>Id tech
>no mod tools
>>334367247
what is snapmap
what is real life
>>334359881
It's designed for consoles, OP.
>>334367157
meh, it gets the job done.
I could upgrade to TWICE AS FAST for an extra £30 a month.
>>334367157
Not that guy, but that's about 25mbps down. I wouldn't consider it great, but it's not really bad either. Just on the border of acceptable for me personally, I think.
>>334366929
Glory kills are unjustifiable. The most brutal you could be with your bare hands in the original DOOM was a power up that made you punch demons so hard they explode for a limited amount of time, and even then it was treated like regular fist melee, no epic le rip n tear animation.
This game is literally nothing like Halo
>>334361014
D33M looked amazing for it's time.
>>334361774
You think that was bad, Reddit scared off a guy that owned and offered to upload a copy of GY!BE's All Lights Fucked which has a What.CD bounty of $100k. /mu/ was salty for months after
Glory kills just look awkward as fuck. You go from moving around at a not-fast pace into a predetermined animation that locks you in place. It's feels just totally wrong and out of place.
Plus, they shouldn't do this much damage. They should be a last resort, not an instakill option.
>>334367357
Of course there weren't a bunch of rip and tear animations, the game was made in 1993. If anything, mentioning that you punched demons so hard they exploded just supports the case for them.
>>334367357
>wants doom 2 hd
>shithead is still in this thread
GTFO
>>334367453
>instakill
>autistic kid doesn't even knows how mechanics works
>>334367298
>snapmap
>mod tools
>>334363112
So it's exactly like 4chan, except with upvotes instead of (You)s
>>334367080
> instead of just a noise or flashing your healthbar
> a noise
i like how you dont address any of my other points because you're a fucking retard trying to sound clever online, and defending some cheap knockoff piece of shit thats not even made by ID because you pre-owned it like a good little pre-order cuck
> it shows the laziness at play here from the devs.. hopefully that means most of IDs budget is going toward a decent singleplayer
i also like your autism at thinking this debate is about the health hud. its about the general laziness, with something like this being one indicator
>>334363112
Except you have a name and get rewarded for being apart of the retard hivemind.
>>334367149
better ask yourself why nobody cares besides you
>>334367795
If people didn't care about this game or franchise this thread wouldn't exist, faggot.
>>334366929
>demon on the cd print
Looks like he's thinking "YOU KNOW I'VE SEEN SOME SHIT BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S ON THIS SHAREWARE DISC ANON."
>>334366019
So D44m is only for amd gpus?
>>334366182
You don't simply own an IP and not use it
>>334362751
>people will call me autistic for this, but it shows the game has no cohesive identity at all
No you're actually right.
Doom has a particular aesthetic, D44M looks like it's been assembled from assets picked left and right from random games.
>>334369239
You don't simply throw your artistic vision out the window and force yourself to make your dream game into a Doom sequel just because you own the sequel.
That's what publishers don't get: people would rather get new franchises. Instead, they rape old franchises just for the name, which only the oldest gamers will remember, and instantly hate. Kids don't know what Doom is, no point reusing the name, you might as well make a brand new game.
>>334364032
>>334364032
What do we do after generation Z?
>>334367247
You're gonna lose now, O noseless one
>>334369487
What happened?
>>334369239
>>334369419
Both valid points, it's what this industry has become, sadly.
>>334369432
Civilization will collapse so there will be no need for social scientists to name generations. Maybe every generation after that can just be the Mad Max generation?
>>334369432
After WWIII people won't care for such nonsense. Allah is Great.
>>334369579
Ratfink is winning tons of states now and they will use that at the convention to justify giving it to him since "momentum was swinging in his favor!"
This thread - full of underage kids, that pretend they played Doom multiplayer in 90s. Having that kind of experience on year 2016 just wouldn't work. Surely it worked on 90s, because there wasn't really anything better then, but now they have to compete with other new generation shooters. They are trying to make money with this game, and making lackluster mp to please dos-game indie-faggots and guys who got stuck in 90s, isn't really a succesful business model.
People don't even seem to remember how bad Doom 3 multiplayer was. The max amount of players was fucking 4 and it wasn't fun at all. Weapons sucked, stages sucked, gameplay sucked. It was dead within first few weeks.
I've played multiplayer of all Doom games when they came. Classic Doom multiplayer was fun in 90s, Doom 3 multiplayer was never fun (and neither was singleplayer), Doom (4) multiplayer is fun. I say they succeeded. If you think it sucks, create better one, that still manages to keep a succesful amount of players and works in world of modern gaming.
>>334369654
kek, the butthurt from the stump will exceed all levels of anal pain if this carries on.
whats the difference between left click and right click for lightning gun
>>334370103
Right click has a slight AoE but deals less damage.
I like it very much have nothing bad to say about it except the no strafejumping died many times in the lava because of this.
>>334369748
so much this, love you babe i dont know what these assfaggots were expecting, to have the exact gameplay as the first doom but better visuals and sound? toplel delusional as fuck
>>334371395
>>334369748
I think anyone, no matter age or time born, expected Doom to be a fast-paced shooter. This isn't.
>>334363452
People born in 1965 are still millennials, bumdass.
Gen Z is 1860 to 1890, you are kiddie
>>334371832
You are aware that those arent /pol/ meymeyz, and actual sociology terms, right?
You dont get to just shit out random numbers and act superior and victorious.
>>334369748
This.
Majority of haters are posers, pretending to be top arena duel players and they don't even have Quake Live in their library.
If it's not hardcore enough for you why are you playing CSGO/DOTA 2 and not Quake?
In previous threads, I proposed a game where you examine the unique IP number and what kind of comments do or don't increase it.
Let's try, shall we?
>>334371707
Doom wasnt fast. Install Doom right now. Go ahead and install it.
Just because it can be speedran doesnt mean its normally a fast game.
>>334371943
yeah I know but everytime I see the year in that argument it's always further back
>>334371994
that tent looks mongolian
>>334372198
Thats a funny thing to say, seeing how the actual years are indeed further back than the post you quoted. See >>334364032
There are no underaged millennials left. You see them in progressive liberal circles these days, not in schools. Or on /v/, since I imagine most posters fall into the Gen Y group.
>>334362694
>Halo: The Master Chief Collection
So Doom 4 won't have multiplayer for months after launch? Great!
>>334371707
It's faster than most of the console shooters I've played. Granted I haven't played Halo since Reach so I don't know if it got faster.
>>334372607
Black Ops 2 and the last CoD are faster than Doom 4, I feel.
This doom is:
battlefield 4 music meme
ass effect armor
gta 5 celebration animation
quake movement
modern warfare 2 killing schizophrenia
unreal egine texture loading
the only unique thing is the ar,t it's pretty gud
>>334359881
Why is everything related to Bethesda turned to shit in some way? Are they the new ubisoft?
>>334372746
Bethesda has never made a bad game. All of their games are at least good, and mostly more than good.
>>334372667
I rented the latest CoD recently. I'd say the base movespeed of D44M is about the same as the sprint speed of BO3, maybe a hair less. I can't speak to any of the other games though.
As far as consoles go, D44M's movespeed makes sense. For PC I would bump it up a little. There's no crossplay so there's no reason to have parity between versions.
>>334367452
Oh my god I remember that. I'm still fucking mad. Doesn't matter if the guy was faking there was potential.
>>334372876
Why isnt there crossplay?
>>334359881
even the normies are starting to shit on it
>>334372957
Because PC players would have the huge advantage of K+M.
>>334372820
Most if not all of their games are bland graphically and shit gameplay wise. Anything they are typically associated with is also turned to shit. Contrary to unpopular belief, elder scrolls has never been a good series. And they are the reason fallout 3/4 were total trash.
>>334359881
This multiplayer is an abomination. No skill-based movement, no map control whatsoever and fucking overpowered bullshit. And is it just me, or are most players nowaday too fucking stupid to even collect armor?
The only enjoyment I get out of Doom MP is to fuck around with friends.
>>334360727
Doom 3 was actually good though
>>334373306
Doom 3 was a great tech demo.
>>334373195
>Contrary to unpopular belief, elder scrolls has never been a good series.
Contrary to your belief, the Elder Scrolls series is one of the best in video games.
>>334369748
>you think you want doom1 but you don't
Just finished playing couple of roundsreached level 6and holy fuck is the gameplay unsatisfying. Deleted immediately.
>>334373354
A tech demo for an engine that was never used for anything else?
>>334373452
>spoiler
Ding! +100 experience! Promotion! Unlocked Big Freakin Gun 9001: Gold Camo! Press Escape and select Customize Loadout to equip it!
>>334373524
I guess there was Quake 4.And Brink.
>>334373524
Sure.
>>334373641
>>334373689
>Quake 4
Literally who? A complete non-game, I don't even remember why its shit. But its shit.
>>334373524
better than doom 3 tbqh
>>334373756
Yeah it's pretty bad. The single player anyway. The multiplayer seems to be completely different, but no one plays from what I saw a few years ago.
>no weapons in the maps, you have to make your own loadout
>movement is so fucking slow, even with speed boost
i feel late the party: is there no way to tune the graphics? advanced options are greyed for me, and i'm experiencing low framerates in the main menu, so i'm not going to dare even playing the game until i can remove all that post processing nonsense and ambient occlusion and whatever else buggery devs obscure their games with these days
>>334369748
>Defending something that's a clear and gigantic backward leap from Q3, their own game from over a fucking decade and a half ago.
>Justifying it because appealing to shitters makes Bethesda more money.
>"B-b-but it's better than Doom 3!"
Genuinely disgusting. Congratulations on being part of the problem.
>>334363256
I can still make out the picture, can we get some more zoom
>>334374030
I feel like the speed boost is the appropriate base movement speed.
>>334373259
no need for armor, you spawn with your favorite weapons anyway. dying has little penalty other than score.
but even then, yes i see players walking past armor.
modern gamers man
You should be able to answer this
Strafejumping is an autistic, cancer mechanic.
>>334373756
It was utterly bland in just about every way it's possibly for a game to be bland. Completely forgettable from start to finish. "Literally who?" is exactly right.
>>334374193
Halo 5?
>>334374193
Destiny.
I actually like this game. Never played any other Doom games, so I have nothing to attach it to in my mind. From what I can tell, this game is basically Halo multiplayer. Which is fine, since Halo multiplayer is kickass and Microsoft seems hell bent on not releasing more Halo games on PC.
>>334374193
Crysis
>>334374193
Trick question, it's D44M.
