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XCX was a disappointment so now I'm a FFXVfag.
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Pretty hyped for this game after being pretty disappointed with XCXs story & characters & music.

FFXV has me pretty damn excited for Final Fantasy again.
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>>334346647
fuck you
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>>334347121
t. Nintentoddler
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hello?
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>>334347338
Is this thing on?
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>Gameinformer spends 30 minutes talking about it
>Only thing we can take from it is that you can drive off-road and run over monster
For fuck's sake
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>>334347406
Better to just wait for the 21st
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>>334346647
From one disappointment to another. What's next? Are you going to run to Persona 5 or Kingdom Hearts 3 when you get disappointed again?
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>>334347487
Fuckers should do a Q&A already, i desperately have to know if different areas have different combat themes
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>>334347406
I thought it was very telling how they kept saying how Square knows they fucked up with the XIII trilogy and with XIV 1.0 and wants to fix their mistakes the past decade. That, more than anything, makes me optimistic about XV and like they said, it's rare for a huge company like that to admit that kind of fault. Especially with how money hungry and shady most companies, not just in the industry but overall, are nowadays.
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>>334348795
We did get an interview some days ago where they talk a fair ammount about that, Tabata is pretty brutal
http://www.famitsu.com/matome/ff15/interview01_EN.html
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>>334349134
The GI Tabata interview is in a similar veil. Just the entire cover story they've released so far seems to point to Square being very ambitious with the XV project and they genuinely want to produce a quality product in the end and this is something I never felt while they were cranking out XIII sequels and other spinoffs. Maybe it's a sign of things to come, maybe XV will be amazing but then they'll return to form when the money rolls in, or maybe it will bomb, but everything so far points to a great game and I cannot wait.
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>>334346647
For me it wasn't and after FF XIII I won't bother with FF anymore. Both XV and VIIIR look like hot garbage.

To each their own, I guess.
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>>334346647
XCX is what happens when you listen to all the western babies

>muh sandbox
>muh character creation
>muh open world

Your characters lack any character and story becomes disconnecting.
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>>334349134
>>334349542
Pretty much all journos that have interviewed him noted that he's shockingly blunt for a Jap dev. No wonder Sakaguchi likes him so much.
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>>334346647
The gayness is too much for me.
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>>334346647
I want to believe this but for some reason I highly doubt this will be any better than XCX. It looks like it's going to be flashy mash gameplay like KH with no substance. I really want to be wrong but it's clear that the better half of Square Enix made XCX.
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>>334350381
Another factor is XCX happens when the IP is fully managed by Nintendo thus the game is stripped down and catered for 5 year olds.
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>>334352154
you mean like Kingdom Hearts? because the Platinum Demo plays like a watered down KH which was for children.
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>>334352126

Square didn't make XCX, Monolith did and they are owned by Nintendo. The demo for FFXV, not platinum but Episode Duscae was actually a lot better than XCX, I played both but I've replayed the demo like eight times because it feels more fun and is more visually appealing then XCX.

Platinum was probably designed to remind people of Kingdom Hearts while still being in touch with FFXV, something that leans more toward FFXV with slightly KH influences.
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>>334352126
At the very least it got more player input than KH, it's not as complex as DMC but it's falling on the same category of "Mashing attack makes it look like shit, actually doing stuff makes it look amazing"
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>>334352531
he meant that monolith was created by ex-square devs, and most of the team are also from square
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>>334347398
Am I all alone?
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>>334352925
There is only three people in monolith from square, most of monolith is ex bamco devs
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>>334352531
Monolith is made of former Squaresoft employees that helped make the PSX games and Xenogears.

>>334352531
>>334352764
XV has a ton of potential but I've got this feeling SE is going to do something stupid last minute. The controls for combat a bit weird but I can get used to it, just wish they remove the whole holding the button down mechanic.
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>>334352980
Is there anyone there?
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>>334353065
I need a bigger gun.
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>>334353028
What happens if you keep tapping the button instead? Does it do the early finisher everytime?
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It has the same problem of Witcher 3 for me
>Look at this map with tons of spots for sidequest
>Its the same 3 or 4 things
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>>334353685
how do you know?
are you a time traveler?
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>>334353028
See>>334353015

Monolith is mostly ex bamco devs
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>>334349542
Was there a changing of the guard in the SE leadership recently? It definitely feels that way.
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>>334353735
Oh i was talking about XCX, sorry
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>>334353652
Tapping lets you manually incite a finisher part of the combo by taking a beat after the "string" part of the combo starts, basically what Vanquish did in ED after Ravage
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>>334353652
tapping works the same way as holding the button down for combos. Dodging I think you need to hold it down in order to work though.
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>>334350381
>muh character creation

Every game that does this should have a default "canonical" character setting (kind of like male Shepard in Mass Effect) if you don't want to fuck around with it. I'll spend a ton of time making a character, and then spend the rest of the game regretting not giving them a different hairstyle, or noticing that the eyes are offset/not the right size. I get kind of autistic when it comes to character creation sliders. It's probably why I've put so much time into TK17.
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>>334353789
Wada was fired and Matsuda became SE CEO during a transition between 2012-2013, SE then restructured the entire company into 12 separate business divisions at the end of 2013.
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>>334353198
help if you can
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>>334353028
It's been years since Monolith has actually created something good.
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>>334353789
There was. Some new people rose to prominence and others, including the former CEO, got fired.
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>>334354015
Good thing that isn't a problem then.
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>>334350381
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>>334347406
You actually can't.
/v/ is gonna be mad
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>>334350381
>Your characters lack any character and story becomes disconnecting.
The story was only "disconnecting" because a lot portion of events happened in side quests. If you did said side quests though you would find XCX had more story depth and character than FF has had in the past decade.
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>>334356609
But anon, side quests with their own storylines and hundreds of choices that exist primarily to define the player character on the player's terms mean nothing unless that other anon says so. Didn't you know?
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>>334356974
I don't know why they bother giving NPCs visible stats at all.
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>>334357061

because they can equip gear?
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>>334357061
Because they're not NPCs. You give them commands in battle and they have a full-fledged character/stat progression and a job system of sorts.
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>>334357061

wat
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>>334350381
>son, I am disappoint
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>>334357529
He'd better get over it, if he wants Noct to pull off a literal miracle and also die for their collective sins.
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>>334357258
>characters you can't play aren't non-player characters
okay
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>>334358123
By that logic, all RPG characters are non-playable because you only give them commands and nothing else.
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>>334358230

A character you don't control is a npc whether you can set tactics for them or not. Noctis is the PC, everyone else is a NPC.
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>>334358504
You give them commands from a menu during battle just like in any other FF
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>>334357061
You can't be this retarded.
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Not hard to make it better than XCX, have sidequests that actually have varied objectives, hire someone that isn't deaf to do the sound mixing, actually make varied faces that doesn't seem aberrations made by the character creator.
And have an actual story instead of barely any development only to end with a plot dump and "IT'S MAGIC I GUESS".
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>>334356974
Why is Prompto at a higher level than Noctis
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Xenoblade X was a great game and had a great open world. The story and most quests weren't well designed, but that wasn't a problem since there was a fuckton of them and they only gave you spare change and tanktops.
I'm still pretty excited for FFXV but saying that Xenoblade X was shit is an exaggeration
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Why is it most screenshots I see from this game are of the party doing really mundane shit like parking the car, walking into a restaurant, or holding camping equipment?
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>>334360307

its just a mock-up menu

I wouldn't take the text to heart
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>>334360456

because thats what you choose to see
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>>334360604
This is in Altissa right? I thought Lucis had the last crystal in the world?
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>>334360604
>cut content
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>>334360879
>Oh no I won't get my cinematic setpiece that never was part of any gameplay.
Altissia's invasion is still on but I doubt that the linear stuff from the trailer will make it into the game.
>>334360758
Maybe the Lucis crystal was taken to Altissia for some reason?
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>>334361127
So in short, they cut content.
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>>334360879
What makes you all think it's cut?
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>>334361330
It never was content.
It's the same as all the versus trailers before, just a bunch of cutscenes and a mockup battle system.
I wouldn't really call it content at that point but I can understand if people disagree with me there
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>>334346647
MGSV was adisappointment, XCX was a disappointment, SO5 is a disappointment and I can't help but think SE will do somthing stupid with FFXV.
Hoping at least Persona 5 and Nier : A will break that trend.
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>>334361485
I doubt the game will have any kind of set pieces that looks this amazing especially when the game already struggle to display Altissa even when it's not getting utterly destroyed by a water dragon
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>>334361598
XCX wasn't a disappointment for me.
MGSV and FFXV can't really be compared on that front because they are polar opposites in trailers and marketing.
MGSV showed everything in the game in trailers prior to release, FFXV took till 2014 or 2015 to show actual gameplay and the stiff from the trailers is mostly gone because they switched engines multiple times
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>>334359759

And you don't control them.
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>>334360758
That's been the case since Versus, yeah. The last working crystal, at least.
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>>334361870
So there were no playable characters in previous FF games, they were all NPCs.
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>>334361914

Nope, you controlled all their actions unless you wanted to set gambits in 12.
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>>334361840
I never watched any trailer for any of those games, they're disappointments because I enjoyed the previous games and had expectactions the games failed to meet (really poor story&cast in XCX, story&world in MGSV, same in SO5)
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>>334361682

Tabata already confirmed that everything shown at E3 2013 is still in.
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>>334362145
The cast wasn't that bad in Xenoblade if you did the affinity mission. I agree on MGSV but can't say anything about SO5 since I just recently started the SO series and know pretty much nothing about anything past SO2
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>>334362039
>pre-XV FFs: you give your party commands from a menu, characters execute them
>XV: you give your party commands from a menu, characters execute them
Not much difference there. It's just that Noctis is controlled much more directly than we used to.
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>>334363474
>Not much difference there.
The difference is the level of control given to the player versus everything all. Pre XV the level of control is consistent between characters with the exceptions of even autobattles and guest characters.

In XV, the control was upped for one specific character but not the rest. That separates the PC from the NPCs.
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>>334356974
I hope this menu doesn't take more than 5 seconds to load. If it does, I'd rather have a plain text-only menu.
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>>334361485
New meme here
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>>334361682
Your logic makes no sense and Tabata already confirmed the Altissia Leviathan sequence is still in the game

>when the game already struggle to display Altissa
Are you from the future or are you talking about the 3GB tech demo made in 2 months by a small side team that isn't actually part of the main game?
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>>334363651
No that just makes Noctis playstyle different to the other party members

Noctis is Action RPG playstyle, the other party members are all command inputs from a menu during battle with their own ATB bar, that is why the system is called AXB, Active Cross Battle, it's a cross between the two systems, you give commands to your other party members from a menu just like you would in any other FF, while you also control Noctis with his Action RPG playstyle.

It doesn't matter if they aren't consistent because that isn't the point of this system, in the story the characters are Noctis's subordinates and literal support and so in the gameplay you give them commands from a menu during combat with their own ATB bar while you directly control all of Noctis's abilities with Action RPG combat
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>>334346647
Kill yourself, please.
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Whats the next big presentation?

ATR or that German RPG event?
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>>334364338
XV is confirmed for E3 and TGS, also PAX later this month, and there is going to be an ATR next week.
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>>334364239
>No that just makes Noctis playstyle different to the other party members
And makes him the PC. It's really not that hard to understand. If you can't choose to play as that character all day everyday like you could as any of the party members in Tales of Symphonia, then they are npcs.
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>>334364239
It's weird seeing Duscae with the visual differences the GI build has when compared to ED. I really hope that pilebunker is an actual weapon too, and not just an ability for Prompto.
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>>334364071
I'm only asking to be surprised.
But this train scene looks really fucking good.
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>>334358123
It was okay when Persona did it. Im open to this mechanic, especially in a better setting. It took me a long time to like the gambit system but I love it now. I liked the paradigm shift system too. I trust square.

Now give us a full esports Dissdia pc port
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>>334364425
Yes it really isn't, Noctis plays with Action RPG playstyle, while Ignis, Gladio, Prompto, Cor and the other party members have their menu based commands and their ATB bar for inputs.

That is why it's called AXB, because its two different methods of input for character control, you can still give command to all of your party members in battle.
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>>334364361

http://east.paxsite.com/schedule

I don't see it.
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>>334346647
I loved XCX's complex mechanics, which FFXV certaily won't have.
But like you said, I hope I'll enjoy it for the story and music, since those really were lacking in XCX
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>>334364659
What is Ignis doing with a lance?
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>>334365217

the guys can equip a range of weapons
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>>334364659
>while Ignis, Gladio, Prompto, Cor and the other party members have their menu based commands and their ATB bar for inputs.
And that makes them NPCs. You can keep trying every mental gymnastic you can find but that's the universal truth.
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>>334365217
Noone is entirely sure yet, it's being assumed the other party members can eventually use other weapon classes after reaching a certain level.
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>>334365327
So what do you call all the people in the game that you can't give commands to?
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>>334365327
So by your logic every ATB and turn based FF is just NPCs
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>>334346647
Boy, I hope you're prepared to be disappointed all over again.
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>>334365217
>>334365369
There was also a recent shot of Prompto with a pilebunker. IIRC GI even got to use it.
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>>334365594
Well i wouldn't be surprised if that one was just for the specific command he was doing, but Ignis is doing normal attacks there
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>>334365327
NPC is not the right description for them. When left neutral they act based on AI but can be controlled by player commands. It's a far reduced level of input compared to Noctis yes, but they're still acting based on player input.
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>>334365510

Go back and read again when I addressed that.

>>334365491

NPCs or mobs. Some might just flat out be world objects.
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>>334365865

ATB FF
>Command menu inputs for the characters during battle with an ATB gauge dictating when you can input commands for them

AXB FF
>Noctis Action RPG system with his full spectrum of Action combat input and abilities
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>Command menu inputs for the characters during battle with an ATB gauge dictating when you can input commands for them
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>AI setups and coop moves with linking party member commands with Noctis combos
Just because they don't have the same method of input as Noctis does not make them NPCs, you still give them direct command inputs during battles an they do them when you input them.
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>>334365656
From Gameinformer's magazine feature. It seems to be normally usable.
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>>334365761
>but they're still acting based on player input.
They are still NPCs though.

>>334365891
Again, already addressed.
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>>334354127
Not to sound cliche
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>>334346647
how can you be excited for this game after that steaming pile of shit that was the second demo?
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>>334365865
So because you have more control over Noctis he's the PC, but despite the fact you have more control over the party members than everyone else in the game they're all NPCs? That's inconsistent.
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>>334365930
Dude you are fucking wrong, deal with it, you give them commands in battle from a menu and they do those commands, and they are dictated by an ATB gauge. You are literally in denial right now.
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>XCXs story & characters & music
That's because you don't play XC for those elements. However, you'll probably like FF if that's what you're looking for
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>>334365930
I wouldn't agree they could be described as non player characters outright if they can be given commands by the player at any time during combat. They're not full-on player characters for sure, but to say they're non player isn't really correct.
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>>334365993
Plat demo had better combat than ED
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>>334346647
Imblying ffxv won't be an utter train wreck due to massive hype and expectations
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>>334366039
holy crap, that looks even less fun than the carbuncle demo.
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>>334346647
this is a town you can stumble across and then explore

after skyrim, fallout, witcher, dragon age towns all looking so grounded in reality

this is such a breath of fresh air

all i want from video games is moments like these

where i can experience wonder i cant experience in real life
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>>334365993
I'm sure SE is absolutely devastated that you thought so.
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>>334366089
For sure, but the majority of PDs content was tech demo shit strung together with a very loose "lol its a dream" plot, and then when you get to the combat it doesn't bother telling you any of the specifics that make it better than EDs.
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>>334365761
I think the actual terminology involved is irrelevant, but I kind of agree with him in that I really don't like it when RPGs give you varying degrees of control with your party.
The fact that they've confirmed that you're only ever going to have a party of the four main characters+guests, yet they didn't create full aRPG control schemes for any of them besides Noctis kind of rubs me the wrong way. If I want to switch over to play as say, Ignis, that should be an option, instead of just giving him commands.
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>>334366039
That looks sick
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>>334366134
What's so bad about giving party members commands?
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>>334366146
>grounded in reality

what?
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>>334366146

if i get a chance to boat along that raised canal i will pop open a bottle of prosecco and spray my whole living room
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>>334366134
The fuck you on about? That is literally command menu inputs for the other party members, how is that any different than giving inputs from a menu in any other FF?
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>>334366181
So you're afraid that in the main game you'll walk around collecting small crystals?
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>>334366225
normally open world rpgs have towns that are just land with thatch houses on
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>>334366217
probably preferred p3p over fes

>muh direct control
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>>334366245
i dont know about boats, but theres a cable car that runs through the whole city :)
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>>334346647
>XCX was a disappointment so now I'm waiting for another disappointment.
Cool. Nice blog.
Now go shill elsewhere.
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>>334366217
it's tends to be really clunky in real time combat. The only way to really pull it off is to either slow/stop time or make the ai brain dead. Both of which ruin the whole point of having real time action combat.
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>>334366338
Wrong city buddy, the cable car is in the cuba-like city
Lestallum was it?
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>>334351487

this
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>>334351487

maybe you should go see a doctor
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>>334366013
>So because you have more control over Noctis he's the PC
Yes. The game gives you absolute control over Noctis but a round about way to get the party members to do what you want.

>>334366039
>Dude you are fucking wrong, deal with it
I'm not and there a bunch going back to the 80s that details the various terminologies.

>>334366060
NPCs aren't static objects. Many games give the player various ways to influence or manipulate them. The party members in XV are the equivalent of pets or minions in other games.

Would you consider that to be a better designation even though that's just a specific type of NPC?
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>>334346647

We don't care.
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>>334366453
can you take the car offroad?

how does that work?
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>>334366484
>Would you consider that to be a better designation
Nah, "Party members" works just fine
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>>334366396
I can tell everyone a little about Altissia at this time.

Altissia has many and varied locations, such as multiple cafes, ship-bourne market places and parks etc. The city is of a considerable scale, to the extent that even the developers sometimes get lost there!

The player is free to take a leisurely walk around the complex maze of streets, or ride the gondola to see the sights and there is also added enjoyment to be had looking for restaurants to visit!
You are bound to encounter some unique characters when exploring the city streets.

So we have created lots of different things to enjoy in Altissia and hope everyone is looking forward to visiting!
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>>334366371
It's also optional. Even stat growth/character upgrade system apparently allows you to focus on Noctis' abilities exclusively to make him incredibly OP or distribute points among the party if you prefer to play a slower, more team-based game.
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>>334366556

>we
>140 posts of people who do
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>>334366585
You can, there's some sort of magnetic force that keep your car on the road, most probably for sigh-seeing while driving, but you can fight it and go off-road
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>>334366656
can you run people over?

or is it crazy taxi style?
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>they still think FFXV will be a good game

oh my fuck
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>>334366484
Dude what the fuck are you even talking about?

You level them up, you equip weapons and gear to them, you develop their stats, you advance their attributes through branching growth systems, you give them direct command menu inputs in combat

They are not fucking NPCs, you give them commands from a menu and that is their control method, and it is different to Noctis's which is Action RPG, again, IT IS FUCKING CALLED ACTIVE CROSS BATTLE BECAUSE IT IS A CROSS BETWEEN THOSE TWO FUCKING SYSTEMS.

Holy shit you have to be baiting.
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>>334366484
>but a round about way to get the party members to do what you want.
Then how come that doesn't seperate them from NPCs like, for example, Cidney, just like how Noctis is in a seperate category from the others because you have more control over him.
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>>334366585
You can, but you have to fight the game a little for that.
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>>334366596
Oh shit
>>334366691
Well looks like you can run monsters over but the dudes didn't say anything about people
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I like these FFXV threads.
You can immediately tell who are the sexually insecure beta faggots, who never had any friends growing up and went on trips with.
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>>334366585
The car can be taken off road, but can only traverse certain terrain, and will sustain damage to the tires/body if you drive over something you shouldn't or hit something. You also lose gil for crashing into other cars. Insurance or something.

At one point in the game, the car becomes an airship, and there's another upgrade after the airship. Everything from here on is rumor, but it's presumed to either be a Magitech Armor upgrade, Submarine upgrade, or the car embodies the Doomtrain Astral (summon). Could also be any mix of the three, or none of them. We just know theres another upgrade aside from the airship.
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>>334346647
>[EXCLUSIVE FOR ONE CONSOLE] was a disappointment so now I'm a [EXCLUSIVE FOR COMPETITOR CONSOLE]-fag

What a transparent attempt to stir up more shit. Shame on you.
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>>334366764

>tfw frog status is back
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>>334366484
I guess Tifa is not a playable character in FF7 because you can't walk around as her.
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>>334346647
Is this the square shillign thread?

My boss asked me to report here
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>>334366804
XV isn't exclusive to any console
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>>334366804
You'd have a point, but XV is not exclusive.
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>>334366596


god damn just gimmie this fuckin game already
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>>334366834
But you can walk around as Tifa , you dumb mofo
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>>334366764
Yep, the people who buy a shit game to simulate one
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>>334366804
FFXV is an exclusive now?
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>>334366861
Does these pounds of water still forms on Platinum?
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>>334366834
You control Tifa at a point in the game though.
Somewhere in Shinra tower.

I'm not the guy arguing that the cast are NPC's. That guy is downright retarded

but that point is moot.
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>>334366245
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>>334366913
Wonder if you can Warp Strike right into his mouth
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>>334366949

yes
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>>334366705
>You level them up, you equip weapons and gear to them, you develop their stats, you advance their attributes through branching growth systems, you give them direct command menu inputs in combat
Again, that's the same as pets or minions in other games and those are still considered NPCs.

>Holy shit you have to be baiting.
No, you're just incredibly ignorant.

>>334366727
>Then how come that doesn't seperate them from NPCs like, for example, Cidney
Because there are different kinds of NPCs but they are all NPCs.

>>334366834
Nope.
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>>334366950
oh come on

its a final fantasy game

there will be a section where noctis gets captured and you have to rescue him as one of the others
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It's implied that in Chapter 0 we don't pay as Noctis, it sounds to me like we might actually play as Regis in Chapter 0.
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>>334367005
>Again, that's the same as pets or minions in other games and those are still considered NPCs.
Pokemon are considered party members you idiot, not NPCs.
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>>334367023
C'mon that was just GI trying to guess something they haven't seen, there's nothing implied yet
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>>334366996
Not sure you'd want to do that.
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>>334367023
>Playing as Regis
>Making that old man move like a fucking ninja
>warping around and summoning an arsenal

I think I just came. Source, Anon?
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>>334367089
I love Ignis' fighting style.
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>Xenogears makes a better FF7
>XenoSaga makes a better FF8
>XenoBlade makes a better FF series

Meanwhile:
>Square Enix: "We screwed up constantly for the past 20 years, and all of our talent has jumped ship to start their own company or join literally every other RPG developer out there, but hey, we got it right this time guys, for sure!"

lol. Stay cucked.
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>>334367082
They said that they wouldn't say who we play as in Chapter 0 when they asked, the only reason they wouldn't even say is if someone other than Noctis was who we play as.

My guess is we play as Regis during this opening scene in the game which is Chapter 0.
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>>334367112
Not him but here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXS15jEVVnA
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>>334367237
>Regis
>Cor
>Cid (Maybe Grandpa Cid?)
>Gladiodad
>Gladiodad
>Kek
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>>334367237
Forgot link

https://youtu.be/fsVhwsUFaDE

Like we play as Regis during this flashback where he finds Noctis on the brink of death and then we go all out on the Marilith, it also could serves as a tutorial, and they did say that XV starts right in a battle.
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>>334367089
Why can't he just throw knives normally?
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>>334367373
Because if you can achieve the same thing, but make it look 10x cooler, why not?

Rule of cool always wins.
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>>334367373
Why would he?
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>>334367304
It is Grandpa Cid, on the official website it says that Regis, Cor and Cid traveled 30 years ago so they've been friends for ages, and the painting on the wall here is of Regis, Cor, Cid and most likely Gladio's dad since Amicitia family is Caelum family's royal guard.
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>>334367461
>Fire on D-Up
He deserved to get rekt
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NO STELLA
NO BUY
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>>334367461
So in that shit and the latest trailers up to the nifflheim one shows Noct doing the air dodge from the ground, haven't seen this shit in platinum
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>>334367461

dats some jojo shit right there

i likey a lot
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>>334367710
You mean this sort of stuff?
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>>334367283
>GameInformer got to play Chapter 1
FUCK THESE GUYS GIVE ME A JOB YOU CUNTS THE JEALOUS IS REAL

>>334367304
It was the name that got me, but it's good to know that Grandpa Cid is a confirmed badass. I see him playing some sort of Master Roshi type in the sense that he looks old and nonthreatening but will open a can of whoop ass at a moments notice.

>>334367710
It's possible that it was left out for the sake of the Iron Giant fight, like many other mechanics were. Air dodging from the ground would have made an already underwhelming fight even less threatening. It consumes a lot less mana that warp striking, and doesn't require you to do it multiple times to stay aloft, so it would have defeated the purpose of air-dodging and warp-striking in the demo, which were obviously put in as showcase mechanics.
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>>334367839
Fuck i'm retarded, i even have that webm saved
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>>334367373
Because Ignis is stylish even when healing.
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>>334367461
Whoever's playing isn't very good, it looks like they were just mashing, or holding, buttons.
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>>334367842
>>334367498
Second tag was meant for you. I haven't slept in almost two days.
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>>334352764
It infact has less inputs than KH.
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>>334365327
I really wish people like this guy would just drop dead. I wish it more than anything in the world, even if it meant FFXV not releasing. I just can't understand how people can be this fucking stupid. It's unfathomable.
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>>334367975
You'll have to go in more details for that claim
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>>334367975
No it has more, not even memeing or anything, it straight up has more inputs than KH does.
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>>334367985
>even if it meant FFXV not releasing
dude, shut up. Don't invoke the gods wrath. His death isn't worth it.. Just go play some Tactics and calm down for a while. You don't know what you're saying.
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>>334367842
>FUCK THESE GUYS GIVE ME A JOB YOU CUNTS THE JEALOUS IS REAL
It was unpolished as shit, you would like it
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>>334368096
*wouldn't
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>>334367985
Can't be right so get angry huh?
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>>334368163
Dude you lost just give up already.
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So if in Pokemon you punch and kick people as the Pokemon trainer in real time but that also you have menu based commands for your pokemon does that make them NPCs?
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>>334365327
Kek, retard
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>>334347761

It's Square, the soundtrack is always top tier, without question. Why wouldn't they have music for every region to flex those Shimomura muscles?
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>>334365327

You're a fucking moron.
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>>334365327

pls die in a fire
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>>334365327
Holy fucking shit how dumb can you get?
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>>334368363
Because i dunno, they've been kinda secretive about the musics
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>>334350381
I know this is a late reply, but literally nothing of what you said had any impact on the characters or story.
The character you create is just a background character, while everyone else are the actual protagonists, and the open world had no negative inpact on the story. They just decided not to give a shit about the story for this installment.
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>>334368163
I just came in the thread. I saw your stupid fucking retarded bitch ass calling the party members NPCs that are akin to that fat ass in fucking Kingdom Hearts 2 that you have to talk to, to initiate the struggle tournament.

You stupid bitch ass piece of shit, I want to take a shit on your face and make you swallow it. Because that's what you're for, shit eating. Because you can't come up with anything right you fucking faggot. They are still controlled by the player, they aren't "the games doing everything for them" clearly, you utter. fucking. retard. Die motherfucker die.
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>>334365327

You're the retard from the previous thread aren't you?
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>>334367686
Le epic "Kill yourself, Kagari" maymay.

Can't go without it for a whole thread. That would be absurd.
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>>334368197

Getting insulted isn't losing, its just people shouting when they can't refute something.

>>334368532

Go read a book.
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>>334368490
Battle music is already set with daytime and night time battle theme, there will most likely be variations of those two themes like we heard in the Niflheim trailer we hear a more operatic version of the night battle theme, so there would likely be other version of the day battle theme too

Field music would most likley change based on your area but this isn't like KH where different worlds have different battle music compositions,
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>>334368363
They have two other composers working on it too, but everything sounds 10/10 so far. The FFXV Prelude for example is probably the most beautiful version of it in the series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVjjkqe64_0
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>>334368583
>go read a book

What an utterly useless, cliched pretentious response that was. I can read you like a fucking book, that's for sure.

You're still highly unintelligent and stupid as fuck.
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>>334368532
>>334368585
Truly Shakespearean.
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>>334346647
Going in with low expectations and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm still going to get disappointed.
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>>334368583
Your logic fell apart already and the facts of the matter already destroyed you.
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>>334368624
>Battle music is already set with daytime and night time battle theme
Not quite, the night battle theme only starts when you fight Goblins, would make it more like a Dungeon theme, and since the base invasion theme is a variation of the dungeon one it makes me wonder if all dungeons will have the same song
The field doesn't have themes, that'll be up to the car's radio
I mean it's not like i think this game will only have 10 songs or anything, but damn show me something, y'now?
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>>334346647
You ruined XCX for everyone, now that you like FFXV I can confirm that it's all over. You killed all the hype I had for the game, thanks again faggot.
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>>334368686
Seriously go do some research.

>>334368705
>Your logic fell apart
Where?
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>>334368679
Nah Shimomura is doing all the compositions they have different people doing alternate arrangements of some of her compositions.

For example the original Omnis Lacrima we heard back in 2008 was arranged by Kaoru Wada but it was Shimomura's composition, while the 2015 version we heard in Episode Duscae was arranged by Shota Nakama.

Tabata mentioned 90% of the music is Shimomura composition and arrangement, while the other 10% are alternate arrangements of her compositions by other people
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>>334368817
When are you going to just admit you're fucking retarded? Seriously, you're the ugly fucking duckling right now. You probably read the google definition and took it out of context like a fucking idiot.

You need to do research. Because nothing you ever said made any sense. They are still being controlled by you.
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>>334368679
>Travelling with the car's roof up
Like birds trapped in a cage
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>>334368982
>You probably read the google definition and took it out of context like a fucking idiot.
No, I coded MUDs, which is why I mentioned books from the 80s.

Good try though.
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>>334368791
That theme is called Veiled in Black, as in, night time, it's the theme that will be playing as the main battle theme too later on since nights get longer and all dangerous monsters come out, so when you start it will have day theme and night theme equally, then eventually night theme will be most prominent battle theme

>The field doesn't have themes
Tabata already confirmed there is field music and it will work like how it does in other open world games, it will play the track through once, then you won't hear it for a while and ony just hear the environment noise, then it will start up again after a while.
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>>334369080

>>334368295
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>>334365327
>that makes them NPCs
No you fucking retard. You might not be able to control them directly but you can still influence how they fight with different equipment and abilities, and you can decide when they use their abilities. An example of an NPC is support Pawns in Dragon's Dogma because they just do whatever they want.
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>>334369094
>That theme is called Veiled in Black, as in, night time
I dunno man, that dungeon was pretty dark
And again, the theme only starts with you fight the goblins/imps, if you fight the dogs or magitek soldiers it play the daylight theme
>Tabata already confirmed there is field music and it will work like how it does in other open world games, it will play the track through once, then you won't hear it for a while and ony just hear the environment noise, then it will start up again after a while.
Oh... Okay i'm down for that
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>>334369143
This guy got it perfectly. There is nothing wrong here.

>>334369080
So you, what is your plan? Are you going to admit you were wrong and learned something new today? Or are you going to continue being retarded? Your choice.
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>>334369229
I think it plays more when you fight dangerous enemies who can debuff you and who ambush you, it plays in the Malboro clip too

Rather than day/night theme, it's relaxing battle and dangerous battle
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>>334369143

Again, that's no different from a pet which still doesn't get the full PC designation. All you do is issue commands when you want specific actions and that's a big difference in a game that offers full control and movement.

>>334369248
>Are you going to admit you were wrong and learned something new today?
I will when I am.
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>>334369537
>All you do is issue commands when you want specific actions

remind you of anything dipshit?
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>>334369537
>doesn't get the full PC designation
But it's still more than an NPC.
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>>334368295
>>334369142
I really don't know what to tell you. You're basically asking what if Pokemon was a different game.
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Just like in the previous thread where people argued about airships and lack of it in FFXV, this discussion of party members being NPC or not sure seems to be extremely pedantic and not at all relevant.
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>>334369537
Man you really are fucking dense.
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I want to know when this discussion will come full circle to his original point, which is far worse than anything he said ever since

>>334357061
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>>334369537
>All you do is issue commands when you want specific actions

So all turn-based jrpg characters in your party are npcs?
You're retarded honestly
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>>334369650
No I'm asking what if you could punch as kick as the Pokemon trainer while the Pokemon function the same way they already do
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>A vs B

Why we cant love both? its stupid
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>>334356609
The side quests in XCX are fucking terrible, the only amusing one was the Back to the Future one
You are fucking deluded
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>>334369537
>All you do is issue commands when you want specific actions

Wow I wonder what this means?
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>>334369537
NPC-kun pls go.
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>>334369647
>But it's still more than an NPC.
It isn't. It's just a minion you have control over. It's just like a wolf pet in WoW. Until the game lets you go dragon age and control both as equals, its just a fancy minion.

>>334369735

Already addressed dude.
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>>334369537
Sigh, you literally just admitted to yourself you are retarded.

People these fucking days.
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>>334369537
>All you do is issue commands when you want specific actions

way to destroy your own argument

stop posting anytime, stupid
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>>334369537

is this a new BTFO shitposter?

we shall dub thee npc-kun as btfo-kun is already taken
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>>334370012
Seconded.
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