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Explain to me how modding is a good thing? Seems to me like they
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Explain to me how modding is a good thing? Seems to me like they do nothing but ruin otherwise good games. Pic-related
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I agree t-b-h
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>>334310924
Modding is the reason Fallout 4 was bad to begin with. Without mods, Bethesda would have no crutch to stand on
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This bait is so bad that i'm not even going to give you a (You).
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>>334310924
they can make shit games tolerable like Skyrim
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>>334311215
See
>>334311201
Mods are the reason Bethesda is allowed to pump out shit games
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>>334310924
nigger the most succesful fps today were mods
quake -> team fortress -> tf2
half-life -> counter strike -> cs:go
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>>334310924
Here is a singular (You), as I have not seen this image before.
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>>334310924
>console plebs not understanding what mods are
hahahaha
first you buy a console for one game, then this.
it's fucking hilarious.
let me guess you also bought fallout 4 for the ps4
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>>334311331
There was a tf before tf2?
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>>334311471
there were two (team fortress and team fortress classic)
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>>334311215
Stop lying you sack of shite.
Skyrim was an alright game without mods.

Even better with mods though.

So is Fallout 4.
Install grasslands and go exploring. You'll see what I mean.
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>Hear about all this sick PC mods that can make any game a 10/10
>Get gaymen PC
>90% of mods are nude bodies and genitals
>The other 10% is super powered items
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mods in morrowind were genuinely good

every modded game after oblivion is just anime tits and ass and making the game easier
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>>334311201
there are going to be dumbasses that buy the settlement DLC and think it's a high quality product.
shit like that is beginner steps for modders.
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>>334310924

Actually this image describes a lot of multiplayer games pretty well, especially f2ps that rig teams to make people win more or less, encouraging them to keep playing no matter how bad they are or to buy cs items.
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Lengthen the lifespan of a game and allow it to change to meet how you want to play. Most people judge mods off of what comes out for games with limited mod support and of course those aren't good, though most games these days don't have mod support because mods are contrary to what AAA devs want. But of course you're going to have a lot of garbage if everyone and their mother is allowed to mod a game.
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Mods are disrespectful to the creators original vision

If they thought there was anything that needed adding to the game, they'd do a remaster or a DLC or something. Look at Witcher 3 expansions, those are great.
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>>334312514
>Mods are disrespectful to the creators original vision
What if the devs encourage modding
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>>334312514
The team that made the Team Fortress mod for quake world got hired by Valve. You know the name of one of the modders?

Robin Walker
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>>334312514
>Mods are disrespectful to the creators original vision
>He unironically believes that complementing the game with additional content is bad or disrespectful because muh vision
>He thinks DLC's are not cancer and that you are obliged to pay shitload of money for content which should and could have been within the original game - e.g. Europa Universalis

Your post literally embodies the cancer that is neo /v/. Congratulations on that.
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>>334312617
They probably only say that because angry neckbeardswould jump down their throat if they didn't

How would you feel if you made a game for years and then some neckbeard fag put out anime tittie bimbo sex mods for it
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>>334311585
Three, QWTF, Team Fortress and TFC.
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How on earth can one follow such logic? Mods exist because people know that someone somewhere will download it and have a genuinely better experience than they had before.
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>>334312514
Another good example is Bethesda's plan for fallout 4.

They put out Automatron and Wasteland workshop for 10$ and 5$, that's some customization and crafting stuff you'd expect to see from a mod but much more polished and refined. Not to mention they have access to their voice actors from the base game so you don't have scrawny nerds trying to voice a character like in most mods.
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>>334312860
What if they specifically give in depth mod tools and go out of their way to help modders
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>>334313036
Boy I sure love paying 10$ for shit that should have been in the game like walls without holes in them.
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>>334313139
Neckbeard
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Modding is like making a food analogy but then realising that the group you're presenting it to would prefer something else therefore you make a meta analogy including a discussion about a common theme of analogies that the group of people you're talking to would be comfortable with so you can target it better so that said group will be able to understand you better.
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>>334312514
I'll show you disrespectful to the creator's original vision!
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Most mods these days suck. But something like higher res textures, lighting fix in Dragon's Dogma, or unlock resolution in Dark Souls can enhance the game.
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Mods artificially extend a game's life cycle.
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>>334313141
At least it's not shoddily made and won't crash your game like most mods
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>Modding a game is the same as changing the rules of a competative game

kys op
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>>334312617
Usually because they are too lazy to support the game themselves.
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Modding games is a good thing, cause it allows people to basically "play the way they want."
The problem is that companies like Bethesda now rely on said mods, cause they know people will "fix" their game's problems, no matter how awful the product they shit out is.
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>>334311683
you are a fucking faggot thats why
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>>334313536
Nigga the whole game is shoddily made and needs no help crashing.
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>>334311683
A lot of games have good mods. The mods and modders however, are typically reflective of the community.

Skyrim mods are all titties and futa because that's the audience.

STALKER mods stabilize the game and/or increase the fidelity, and/or increase or rework difficulty.
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You can't be fucking serious.

You know that base building mechanic in Fallout 4 that you praise so much? That was a mod for New Vegas first. Fuck, half the new mechanics were probably New Vegas mods first.

You know Counter-Strike? Killing Floor? DotA? All mods.

If anything, mods make games better. Shitty developers with no imagination, no resources, no idea what the fuck they're doing, and so on, can all pretty much look to these mods and say "oh shit, call those guys and lets do something with this." Or they can be Bethesda and say "oh shit, thats cool - howsabout we put it in our next game or patch it in as official?"

I get this is a troll post but holy fuck am I triggered.
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>>334314135
It's insulting really. Before, the modding community was kind of a heartwarming thing. You had a dev that tried to go above and beyond to make an immersive world, and a community that helped fill in the gaps where they couldn't pull through.

Now you have a jaded faggot triple A company with more than enough money and resources to make the game not shit, and they just lazily rely on the community because "lol they'll still pay premium price first day plus extra for dlc and season passes, and they'll also fix the known shippables don't even trip"

I fucking hate these people.
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>>334312514
Totally agree actually. I refuse to install any type of mod that adds to storyline. I love Skyrim and have modded the shit out of it, but nothing that adds to the lore or anything. It just feels wrong, I'll add new characters and immersion/graphics/UI things but that's it.
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>>334311660
>skyrim was alright
Unless you like using magic, or doing decent guild quests.
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>>334312514
I add texture and lighting mods to make the game more to my taste.

>Why would you do that, the developer wanted the game to look like arse
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>vanilla
>fun game, we can all relate; post stories anon

>modded
>my special version of the game is radically different from yours; talking about it is a waste of time
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>>334314980

This desu. Back +10 years ago buying a PC game meant you were buying into a platform for content. Custom servers, community maps, mods, you name it that would keep the game relavent well beyond release.

Nowdays that hurts companies bottom line churning out shit like DLC so they've convinced retards like >>334315224 and >>334312514 that custom made content is "disrespectful to the creators original vision" and other such nonsense. It's sickening but this industry is cancer anyway.
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Portal was a mod first no? Or at least a game which had the portal gun mechanic
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>>334312514
If the mod makes your shitty game actually fun and fixes bullshit your patches don't, I'm gonna use it. I don't give a shit about your respect.
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>>334315812
Narbacular Drop was a student indie game, not a mod.
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>>334310924
OP is just mad cause he cant make good mods
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>>334315940
Ok fair enough, thanks for correcting
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>>334310924
Well depends on the Mods really. If you mod a game to make you unkillable it gets boring and broken as fuck.
HOWEVER there are some proper ways to actually improve a game:
>improve graphics: see GTA
>improve UI: see World of Warcraft
>improve gameplay: See The Witcher
those are the major things. But there are also some other fun things:
>add Stuff to the game
With modding you can add Metal Gear Solid soldiers to Xcom2.
>completely new Gameplay.
As said before: DotA, CS and Team Fortress all where mods before they became standalone games. Hell the genre of "tower defense" was something that came from a mod.
There are tons of little things you can do with mods. great ways to improve your game.

However if you just use mods to "cheat" then they're shit. easy as that.
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But anon without mods how are we going to be able to see Quiets pubic hair????

http://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsolidvtpp/mods/117/?
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>>334310924
you do know that you are not required to use them, yes? that if you dont like them, you can disregard them and never experience any ill effects from it?
fucking kids
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>>334313694
Bottom left kid is going places.
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>>334316762
more like his dad is going places
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>>334312887
technically 4 if you count the fangame Fortress Forever.
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>>334313694
WHAT THE FUCK
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>play Grimrock 2, one of the best dungeon crawlers of all time
>play all the fan mods and custom levels that are pretty good and have pretty decent puzzles

What's not to like?
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>>334317869
Kid on the right is going to be an artist. Good on him.

Lefty is going to need help to get through life unfortunately.
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>>334317869
I like that kid in the yellow. Fuck winter, I'm painting a cowboy.
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>>334310924
You can make a game fit your tastes.
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>>334318202
Can you recommend me some of those levels? I love grimrock
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>>334316762
No fucking way that kid painted that.
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>>334310924
>falseflaggers
Butthurt PCfag posing as a consolefriend detected.
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>>334318781
This. Also, most games suck and have a lot of imperfections. Thats why i stopped playing in consoles.
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>>334318902
http://www.nexusmods.com/legendofgrimrock2/mods/top/?

I liked most of the top levels.
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Wow this has got to be the stupidest post i've seen in a while. Let me explain with food.
>eat bread
>was pretty good
>eat bread again
>still pretty good but kinda boring eating the same bread over and over again
>eat bread with jelly
>was fucking delicious and nice to have a change once in a while

Since when is adding onto something considered bad?
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>>334317869
Okay here's what actually went down. The kids had to copy these fucking snowmans the teacher has drawn that's why all the mouths look so fucking identical.

Then the bottom row second from left kid started drawing over the leftmost kid's pic. Teacher saw it, as punishment he had to hold the ruined pic and the leftmost kid got the teacher's reference pic.

You can literally read this from their expressions.
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Quentin I thought you were banned.
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>>334319183
since im an autist and i like the same breakfast every
single
day
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>>334310924
That would be an example of a shit mod.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess960

Now this is an example of a good mod.
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>>334319183
>its a terrible food metaphor on /v/ thread
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>>334319183
Imagine be so fat, you play games and see food
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>>334320073
IMAGINE BEING AT COMPUTERS
SO FAT YOU LOOK AND SEE FOOD
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>>334319441
>you can literally read this from their expressions.
by which you mean you're making it up.
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Quinten is that you?
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>>334310924
This is a bait thread.

Mods do nothing but improve games like Skyrim. There are mods that fix the graphics, the combat, the perks, the AI, the mechanics, essentially just about everything that's possible to be fixed as well as adding some things that just flat out aren't present in the base game.

Posting my shitty waifu.
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>>334321129
>that
>improvement

Why do retarded modders think turning games into porn is good
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>>334312860
The frick do I care if someone mods in something that doesn't hurt any other players?
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>>334321235
It's not like I can post screenshots of all the gameplay overhauls I have, now can I? That's only something that can be shown in motion or through a ton of text.

Also lewd modding is a perfectly valid addition to a video game, especially a single player one. You can turn Skyrim into the best porn game, one that far exceeds games built from the ground up for lewd.
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>>334312514
That would be implying that video games are art.
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>>334313694
I like the top right one. the brush work is sloppy I like the focus on the eyes
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>>334313694
>tfw the beginning of your life was like the kid's snowman painting on the bottom left
>tfw your life now is like the kid's snowman painting next to the kid on the bottom left
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>>334314135
This is fucking bullshit. Why? Because those games that needed to be fixed by mods were most heavily marketed towards consoles.

Yes, Bethesda releases broken as fuck games, but there's absolutely no evidence that they do it because of mods.
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>>334322051
You're a fool if you don't think they do it because mods. They don't care about the console version because they know console players don't know or care about mods and will play just about anything if it's hyped enough.
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>>334319183
>Get bored of jelly and bread errday
>Add Peanut Butter eventually
>Nice, this is actually getting better
>Add Nutella for good measure
>Gradually add more and more ingredients
>After a few years you are left eating a spray painted stale banana and rye bread with a bunch of shit inside, ranging from Jelly to Vegemite to bologne and a bit of chorizo
>You can barely hold it in your hands
>Gives you headaches if you eat it for prolonged perods of time
>You also added genitals to the bread somewhere in between
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The only jab shitposters can make at mods is a jab at sex mods, but making that jab in the first place is still just as fucking retarded.

>WOW I LIKE NOT HAVING CONTROL OVER ASPECTS OF A GAME I JUST WANT EVERYTHING SPOONFED TO ME FUCK LEARNING HOW TO COOK AND PREPARE A MEAL THAT IS SUITED TO MY PREFERENCES
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>shitty, broken on release Bethesda games have thousands of mods for literally things no one cares about
>meanwhile genuinely good games don't even get texture packs
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>>334314765
>Skyrim mods are all titties and futa because that's the audience.
I hated Skyrim, even with mods, but you really can't say Skyrim's mods are all that. Most games have 0 modding scene.
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>>334322884
Bethesda games are easy to mod. Other games are not guaranteed to be easy to mod.
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>83 replies and 10 images omitted. Click here to view.
>thread is still up
>OP still hasn't been banned

Daily reminder that it's perfectly ok to shitpost and bash about PC gaming. Great work, /v/ mods!
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>>334323126
What are you talking about I get banned for posting these all the time
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>>334323126
I think this thread was just a thinly veiled attempt at getting people to post their custom modded waifus to be honest.
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mods only help sprout creativity
hell gmod is literally this and it has a giant community and you can basically do anything you want.

TTT is also a great little game.
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Idk, but 1257ad is soo much fun that I already put 100hours playing it. That's more than average AAA games.
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>>334321129
>>334321487
imgur link please
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>>334322278
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>>334324172
I can give you a zip file with all 20 of the shots I've taken (40 if you want the non-futa versions too, but they're just the same shot minus the penis) or I can give you a link to a tumblr I threw together recently that has all of them on it too. Or you could go to the tesg booru as well.

Pick your poison.
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>>334324431
I'll take the 20.
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>>334322278
What game? Morrowind?
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>>334310924
Chess has been modded several times throughout history before it reached its final form. Checkers is also a popular chess mod.
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>>334324431
Oh, I should mention the tumblr is just the futa shots. The tesg booru has all of them though, both futa and non-futa.

>>334324487
Alright, I hope you enjoy them.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/hkxqr0nsq946t57/Brynhildr+Futanari+Lewds.7z

Here's the tumblr anyway I guess if anyone cares. I can't say for sure if I'll actually maintain it at all. It was hastily thrown together.

http://futanari-hime.tumblr.com/
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>>334310924
Warband is a testament to modding.
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>>334324659
thanks senpai
>inb4 dolphin porn
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>>334324740
You're welcome senpai, I promise it's not dolphin porn. Her penis is quite big though.
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>>334310924

You know that chess960 is pretty much the counter argument to your picture, right?
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>>334310924
>implying all 'mods' do is make you win instantly
>not improving the gameplay, graphics, adding in new content to play or new equipment to wear, optimizing broken systems and repairing gamebreaking glitches

OP is a fucking console babby who doesn't understand what mods are, confirmed
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>>334312514
Not sure if this is bait or if you're really such a simpleton.
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>>334321745
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>>334312514
You know what, you're right. Let's just go take down all those unofficial patches for games then, they deserve to be riddled with bugs and crashes, I mean, that's what the devs intended, right? You're intended to be able to give yourself 100% Invisibility in Oblivion at no cost, right? You're intended to smuggle out infinite durability weapons from Operation Anchorage in Fallout 3, right? You're intended to have the game run like dog shit and crash pretty much every time you load a new area when it comes to STALKER, right? You're intended to miss out on a bunch of stuff in KOTOR, right?
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>>334321487
There's some neat lewd mods, but I still feel the whole experience isn't that great. No mod seems to quite manage to nail the balance between gameplay and porn.
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>>334324679
>serving King Graveth
what a fucking respectable nobleman who probably owns several Weaveries/Dyeworks
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>>334319183
>bored of bread
>try brownies laced with weed
>laugh at all the silly bread-eaters
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>>334324804
a-any more?
i really like futa with long cocks
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>>334314812
Robots and base building were Fallout 3 first, the NV ones are just ports of those mods. Hell, most of the most popular mods are just straight up ports.
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>>334325138
Skyrim's mods are getting quite impressive.

Lately the combat has been able to be fixed in a way that it's very akin to Souls if you get the right mods. It's not quite at the same level, but it's a massive improvement over standard Skyrim or TES in general.

Also there's a relatively new sex mod that blows the rest of them out of the water called 0Sex. I haven't used it yet but everything I've seen and read about it has been very good.

>>334325348
Maybe in the near future. Can't do anymore right now. You can check the tesg booru or the tumblr I made if you want to see if I made any new ones. Maybe if this thread is still alive later I'll try to throw together another 10 shots for another set. I want to do it in a different location again maybe with a different hairstyle too but I haven't decided on one yet. I like to have good lighting when taking shots so I'm very particular about where I take them.

Thank you though. It's always nice when someone shows that they like the stuff that I've made. That's what I do it for, really.
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>>334324517
Spot on anon, also happened in New Vegas, I have compulsive modding disorder
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>>334311214
OP doesn't get (you)s
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>>334325597
What combat mods are you referring to? Last I checked, any attempts at combat overhauling were really unimpressive, but it's been a while.
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>>334310924

No, modding makes shit games better.
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>>334325772
It's a combination of quite a few actually.

You're going to want ASIS, Mortal Enemies, Revenge of Enemies, Lock-On, TK Combat, TK Dodge, TK Hit Stop, TK Recoil, Ultimate Combat, Ultimate Dragons

I wish I could show you it in action but it's very Souls like. Attack animations aren't as floaty and are more committed. Dodging is actually useful and finally responsive, old versions of TK Dodge were essentially unusable. Attacks have more feeling of force behind them thanks to TK Hit Stop and TK Recoil. The others are adjustments to the AI and mechanics/abilities of enemies. ASIS allows enemies to access modded-in spells and abilities.

You'll want Ordinator (Perks), Imperious (Racials), Wintermyst (Enchantments), Apocalypse and More Apocalypse (Spells and an add-on to the original spells package), Thunderchild (Shouts), and Aurora (Standing Stones). All of these are made by the same modder too, they're quite good.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/users/3959191/?tb=mods&pUp=1

I'd also recommend checking out the add-on mods Darkend and Vigilant. They're very Souls inspired so if you like Souls you will probably like these mods as the atmosphere is quite similar. Haven't gotten to try Vigilant yet but Darkend is a new landmass and the quest is done through finding notes and things instead of an actual quest log. You have to explore and find things yourself, it's quite nice and refreshing. I had just wished there was more.

Check out the tesgeneral website (http://www.tesgeneral.com/) if you'd like a guide that will introduce you to more mods than the ones I just listed. I recommend it quite a bit, it's a great resource and you don't need to download every single thing they show you, it's more like a catalog of recommended mods to check out. Though some things are necessary for other things to work properly.
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>>334326530
Well shit, that's a lot. Thanks for taking the time to put it together.
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>>334327312
You're very welcome! I wish I could help more but there's really so much to go over that it's hard to do it all in a condensed manner. Cheers, and happy modding~
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>>334326530
What character mods are you using?
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>>334328264
A lot. I should type this stuff up in a notepad file at some point because it's hard to re-type it all out every time.

But...

RaceMenu (for character creation menu)
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29624/?

CITRUS Heads (high polygon head meshes)
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/58989/?

Female Facial Animation
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/35303/?

Fair Skin Complexion (textures for humanoid characters)
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51602/?

PureSkin (install this over Fair Skin if you want the look I have going)
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73853/?

HHairstyles (the two hairs she's using in the futa pic package, they both have physics and there's some variant versions but they're very similar to the two different styles)
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60730/?

For other hair mods I'd recommend checking out KS Hairdos.

Freckle Mania (freckle overlays for racemenu that can be used on the face and body, as well as layered, standard Skyrim only lets you put freckles on faces)
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52841/?

Bodyslide (UUNP version, it's a higher polygon mesh with more options. CBBE is lower polygon count.)
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49015/?

I'm using stuff for other races too, like Feminine Argonians and Khajiits, as well as Masculine Argonians and Khajiits even though I don't play beast races.
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/users/1630457/?

Fitness Body (a texture blender used to customize your muscle definition on the normal map, it's what I used to give her the abs and slight subtle muscle toning)
www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/16731/?

Futa stuff is from loverslab. She's using the newer high polygon penis mesh for UUNP bodyslide with the newer more realistic looking textures, though I edited them to be more seamless with PureSkin and to have the veins have color to them.

Probably forgetting some things too, there's so much stuff so it's hard to make sure I remember to mention everything.
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>>334329583
I suppose I should mention that everything will have physics if you install it properly and use HDT physics extension.

Yes, even the penis and balls, along with her ass, tits, and hair.
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>>334313694
I'm less concerned about the all black painting
because I'm trying to think about what the fuck happened with that yellow shirt's painting
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>DSfix actually makes the Dark Souls PC port playable
>awaiting mods that remove the black bars from Dark Souls 3 so I can play that in 3440x1440 at 60fps
not all mods are gameplay changes, some just do what the developers should have done in the first place, just they're lazy assholes.
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>>334330241
I think along the way he decided to try out what the kid was doing with the brown mess painting but got stopped before he could take it all the way.
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>>334329583
Is SoS the only loverslab mod you have installed for the character models, or were there any others? Super handy post, btw, thanks
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>>334319441
fail theory, the reference picture is at the top right.
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>>334317869
Thank you for drawing giant red circles around those two kids you insipid mouthbreathing fuck. It's a good thing because then nobody else would have gotten the point of the picture.
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>>334330463
Yeah, the only loverslab mods I'm using are SoS, SoS for females, SoS high poly penis for bodyslide UUNP along with a texture made for the new higher poly penis that's more realistic, and Floppy SoS, which adds physics to the penis and balls.

I had to edit the penis texture so it blended more seamlessly where the penis meets the body. It's not perfect but under most circumstances you will not have a visible seam.

Oh, and if you haven't used SoS before, you can literally control the erections. From flaccid and floppy, to full on diamond hard with everything in between too.
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>>334330793
Oh and you should be able to find that stuff looking through the loverslab futa thread for Skyrim.

I didn't do this last time because it's not perfect and it kinda slipped my mind, but here's my custom texture edit for the penis so it's more seamless with the PureSkin body texture.

I figured I'd share it this time because I don't know if anyone else made one. At the time I couldn't find one made by anyone anywhere, so I had to do it myself. Again, it's not perfect, but it should help if you decide to use PureSkin. If not, you'll have a pretty nasty seam which makes the penis look fake and not actually attached to her body.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/9yaik9dom1xru1t/PureSkin+SoS+Texture+Patch.7z
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>>334331398
Oh yeah, my edit also has the veins colored onto the texture as well, so I guess that's a plus if you like that too. Normally there are no veins on the texture, just the normal map, which doesn't add any coloration by default.
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>>334311706
there was already a mod that did pretty much the same stuff within a week of release, no wonder beth won't release the GECK

Speaking of the GECK, if Beth insists on using this shitty engine over and over again then it shouldn't take 2 full fiscal quarters to even release a closed beta.
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Fucking degenerate modfags ruining a good thread.
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>>334333969
>a good thread

You mean a shitposting thread, right?
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>>334324679
>being a rhocuck
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>There's a parallel universe where the Doom modding community never took off.
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>>334334050
Better than what it turned into

At least actual discussion was happening instead of "what mods let me adjust the floppiness of my character's floppy dong"
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>>334310924
How did you fucking idiots manage to get baited into 150 replies for this travesty of a thread?
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>>334334980
Pretty sure some people appreciated that, unlike the shitty bait that was trying to say mods are bad.
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>>334310924

>implying games are good

Just ask anyone on /v/, whatever it is, it's shit.

Get your choice of shit mods and turn that shit into the kind of shit you like, you fucking shitter.
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>>334335223
Made me laugh, nice post.
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>>334315472

I hate to admit it, but even Skyrim was a better game than fallout 4.

Fallout 4 relies way too much on proceduraly generated shit for content.

>of all the towns, only Diamond City, Bunker Hill, Goodneighbor, Covenant, and i guess the brotherhood's zepplin, the railroad HQ, those shitters in the glowing sea, and the institute aren't just throwaway settlements

Of those, Diamond city, Goodneighbor and the faction HQs are the only ones with any real content. Covennant is there for one shitty blade runner reference of a quest, Bunker Hill is a store, and the crater-o-nothing doesn't seem to have any purpose whatsoever.

Even then, Goodneighbor mostly feels like it's there to be a city location outside Diamond City, so that every quest involving a city doesn't happen entirely within diamond city.

Skyrim had like ten times as many forgettable cities and quests.
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