I want 'my first souls game was DS2' fags to die.
>>334292497
And they can take bloodborne losers with them.
>>334292606
nobody bought bloodbourne though
>>334292797
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I want 'my first dungeon crawler was Demons Souls' fags to die.
I don't get the 'DaS2 was horrible' meme. DaS2 wasn't great, but it wasn't a pile of shit either.
>>334293595
It's just people who have only sampled a small portion of videogames and haven't played any much worse.
>>334293998
No. Its because we had expectation ds2 would be better than ds1 but it wasnt. It was made to cash in from the series.
>playing other games besides ds
>>334294660
>we had expectation ds2 would be better than ds1
But it was in some ways. In some ways it wasn't, but not many.
>>334294660
DaS2 was disappointing, sure, but it wasn't terrible. Manage your expectations, kiddo.
I want soulsfags to die
demons souls was hard but the player was buff as fuck, and you could beat everything even with half health
dark souls 1 began to remove some of the players power, but compensated by removing the death penalty
dark souls 2 turns every single boss fight into a multi-target clusterfuck, removes some more of your power by taking away iframes and so forth, and then just to be fucking contrarian, it reintroduces the 'losing health' mechanic, so that new players suffer as much as possible
notice that I haven't even mentioned the half hearted world building, that you start to notice after you have finished the game
>>334295501
>then just to be fucking contrarian
If only you had any idea how retarded you sound.
i want the das2 is shit meme to diedas1 is shit
>>334294832
>But it was in some ways
Like how?
>>334296282
It's not shit. It's just the weakest entry in the series.
DaS1 is universally regarded as the best.
>>334292497
News flash: every single game in the Souls series is shit for edgy casuals.
>>334296561
It's regarded as the best because it was literally pcniggers first souls game. It's shit m8.
>>334296561
No it's not. You don't understand what universally means.
>>334296394
Not the anon you replied to but I liked not having to sit at a bonfire to become human, power stancing, the sale of infinite titanite chunks so that you're not so limited to one weapon at +15, PvP was done right, Blue Sentinels, Way of Blue, Covenant of Champions, WAY more varied weapons.
>>334296394
Tons of different weapons, armours, locations, the locations look great too. Dual wielding allowed you to use both weapons at the same time.
>>334296658
gr8 b8 m8. i can rel8.
Mine was bloodborne and it's the best one.
>the punchline of the comic is DARKSOULS IS HARD LOL PREPARE TO DED XD!
It's funny because souls games aren't even that hard
>>334296749
Not true. I played DeS on PS3 before DaS and I still think that DaS is the better game although I love both of them to death.
In contrast, I never even finished DaS II because it didn't appeal to me.
>>334296909
They're much harder than pretty much any other game on the market.
Normies who only play FIFA and CoD fail so hard at Souls games.
>>334297012
>it didn't appeal to me
It's the same game.
Jesus christ, you shit on Call of Duty for being rehashed and yet a game that has almost insignificant amount of differences doesn't appeal to you while you love the other one "to death".
DaS2 has genuine flaws, then people give it shit because bad hitboxes something that's literally in every Souls game including DaS3. Its a bad Souls game, but its still a relatively good game but people either can't separate their personal feelings for an objective look or they just like shitposting about a game that nobody but the most dedicated would defend it.
>>334292497
So is it worth playing if I liked DaS1 or not?
I've never played a souls game. I'd fucking kill myself if I turned into one of you souls faggots.
>>334293595
Compared to DS it was sht
>>334296561
>game is great up until O&S
>after that have to force myself through dukes archives, lost izalith, and tomb of giants
>new londo ruins is good but takes maybe 15 minutes
if by universally regarded as the best you mean by a loud obnoxious vocal minority i guess you are right
>>334297347
>DaS2 has genuine flaws
Well yeah, much like the first couple of games. Thankfully it doesn't have that bullshit World Tendency though. Jesus christ that was a wank.
>>334297223
Actually I probably would have liked it more if the story and characters tied in directly with DaS 1.
Also, Soul Memory really killed it for me. I had a blast with PvP in DaS 1 which is one of the reasons I remember it so fondly.
I'm not saying DaS II is a bad game by any means. Just that I never got into it. I'll definitely go back and finish it and the DLC one day.
>>334297493
You didn't like Duke's or Tomb of Giants? How about the painted world? Or the awesome DLC?
There's just so many awesome zones in DaS1... The only part I really dislike is Lost Izalith/Demon Ruins. Everything else is just awesome.
>>334292497
Why would anybody do that? Skipping Demon's Souls makes some sense, as not everybody owns/owned a PS3, but if you have a system than can play DaS2, you also have a system that can play the first.
>>334297347
The bigger problem is that here there is no middleground. Its either shit or 10/10 goty.
All souls game have flaws, but even with those flaws they an 8+
>>334297493
When did people start spouting this bullshit because it seems like a recent thing. Dukes was great and tomb of the giants was dripping with atmosphere. Only izalith was really shit and it wasn't that long, but even that's fucking A+ class level design compared to shit like black gulch anyway.
>>334295501
>every single boss fight into a multi-target clusterfuck
The Last Giant
The Persuer
The Lost Sinner
Dragonrider
Old Dragonslayer
Covetous Demon
Mytha, the Baneful Queen
Smelter Demon
Old Iron King
Scorpioness Najka
The Rotten
Demon of Song
Veldstadt, the Royal Aegis
Vendrick
Guardian Dragon
Ancient Dragon
Nashandra
Aldia, Scholar of the First Sin
Sinh, the Slumbering Dragon
Fume Knight
Sir Alonne
Aava, the King's Pet
>you playing Dark Souls 2 and not forming your opinion from /v/ and reddit
(You)
>>334296909
Shut the fuck up autismo, we get it, your only avenue for socializing is through 4chan because you're hideously attractive IRL, both mentally and physically.
>>334297493
>loud obnoxious minority
The loud and obnoxious parts are right. I wish they were a mighty because maybe then they'd stop trying to shit up every other game's thread with their annoying faggy-attitude.
>>334297464
You mean better.
I've been able to finish DaS2 multiple times, but everytime I get done with Anor Londo I can't bring myself to play DaS anymore.
>>334292497
I want elitist manchildern to die
How many of you played the unpatched version of DaS1?
Where the dragon ass hell was real and the souls were few
>>334292497
Roll roll attack
>>334298378
I remember.
Skellies didn't even give souls. Going down to the crypts was a deal breaker.
>DaS1
>broken port
>30 fps cap
>probably not playable with KB+M
>latter half of game a borefest
>cut content out the ass
>drake sword
>non-existent plot which the disgusting fan-base just sugarcoated with fanfiction ass-pulling
>DaS2
>fixed all technical issues
>power stance
>consistent world design quality from start to finish
>great bosses (at least noone worse than the shitpile of turd bed of chaos was)
>way more variety in weapons and armor
>way better online
DaS1 is max a 4/10, DaS2 is an 8
Anyone who thinks differently is just a slut.
I'm on my first run of DaS2, I'm really enjoying it. Working my way through the undead crypt now looking for Vendrick. I picked up SotFS so I get to play the DLC next. I heard SotFS fixed a lot of issues people had with the base game, any truth to that?
this is the worst meme
you faggots seem to forget that DaS1 was unfinished as fuck
>>334298795
Tons of truth to that. But anti-DaS2fags seem to ignore SotFS's existence.
>>334298830
This.
Still, they charged full price for it and forced you to get a controller for a shitpile of turd port.
>hurr durr everyone has a controller
Irrelevant.
>>334298830
>DS was unfinished as fuck
And that still doesnt mean you should give it free brownie points
>>334292497
Playing through this for the first time. What is WITH mace enemies? The Turtle Knights and Heide Golems with maces are fucking stupid. Crazy tracking and infinite stamina is bullshit for an enemy swinging a small statue around. Really all of Heide's area is bullshit except for Dragonrider. The Knight enemies are resistant to pierce AND blunt? Also they have a literally instant slash if you combo them? I "beat" the area literally by just hauling ass through it. I'm even playing Scholar of the First Sin. I thought this was the "fixed" version...
>>334298782
That's just hyperbole falseflagging, nobody really thinks 2 is better than DaS or even DeS. Mostly that 2 isn't the awful game its claimed to be.
>>334298795
>I heard SotFS fixed a lot of issues people had with the base game, any truth to that?
Yeah I didn't like how enemies disappeared on me. That was fixed it seems.
>>334299068
I think 2 is better than DeS. 1 interconnected world really does wonders for a game.
>>334298795
Yes, I found that the Iron Keep didn't have enough Alonne Knights, and that they needed infinitely more aggression range.
>>334298795
SotFS is pretty good compared to DS2 vanilla. The level design still ain't great, but some really, really stupid decisions that just ruined whole sections of DS2 were fixed. The DLC is also at least as good as vanilla DS1. I still like BB more and I still rate DS1 above it because it couldn't fix everything.
>>334292797
>Nobody bought Bloodborne on pc*
Ftfy
>>334298968
He's not even talking about the port, d00d. They clearly ran out of budget after Anal Rodeo. The four lord dungeons are messy and rushed as shit.
>>334299219
>BB
Honestly the best one so far. Don't even really care about whether DS1 or DS2 are better than each other because BB outclasses them easily.
>>334294884
It wasn't just overhyped masses that made DaS2 a disappointment. It was the downgrade and the complete removal of the lighting system (a system that would have been able to cover up just how bad some of the areas look), accompanied by the soulless design choices and terrible fanfiction-tier lore that really sank DaS2 in the eyes of fans.
Souls in a memorable series to me, not because of the difficulty, but because every entry into the franchise has been comparable in quality with the last. The only dip in quality we've seen was in 2. It's the reason I have faith in FROM should they continue to make Souls-like games, even though they're retiring the Dark Souls setting, as I recall.
>>334299068
>nobody really thinks 2 is better than DaS or even DeS
Plenty of people do, faggot. Read the thread.
>>334299041
They're big and slow, especially when they slam the mace on the ground. Just take on one at a time and dance around them. You if you dont mind fatrolling, use a tower shield and tank it.
>>334298795
Ehh, fixed some things, but in my opinion introduced a whole slew of other problems. The changes to enemy placement were unnecessary in a lot of areas, especially fucking Iron Keep, and the Forest of Fallen Giants. In other areas, the changes were good, like Shrine of Amana, but that's really all that comes to mind.
>>334293172
>demons souls
>dungeon crawler
>>334292497
I want "my first fromsoft game was DaS:PtDE" PCmemers to die.
>>334297949
Every boss on that list replaces the multi-target clusterfuck with "Standing atop a lazy suzan from hell" overhead tracking. A considerable number of them are bland, forgettable dudes in armor, or literal ripoffs of other bosses from the series.
Dark Souls 2 has the worst bosses.
>>334299520
Yep. When it came out it was pretty much Kings field with much better combat.
>>334296561
>DaS1 is universally regarded as the best.
That would be Bloodborne.
>>334299628
Neither Demons souls nor Kings field are dungeon crawlers you dumbshit newfag.
Fuck off back to DaS 2
>>334299706
>Neither Demons souls nor Kings field are dungeon crawlers
But they are.
>>334299702
Bloodborne is dogshit and I wish people would stop trying to use it to drag the actual souls games down
>he hasn't played Severance: Blade of Darkness
>laughingbarbarian.tiff
>>334299706
>Civilisation IV isn't a turn based strategy game you dumbshit newfag
>>334297741
Painted world was great, so was the dlc
Tomb of giants was meh
>dark
>big skeletons
>pretty easy boss with a silly gimick
But people champion das1 level design like it is the end all
DaS2 dlcs had some of the best level design ive seen in a souls game
just my shit opinion tho
>>334299853
>mad PCuck
>>334297978
>shitposting thread about how dark souls 2 players should die
sorry to shit up your thread anon
>>334297857
dark =/= atmosphere
>>334299862
I played it for a bit. But I got bored of it.
>retarded awkward animations
>every subsequent moveset you unlock makes earlier ones completely obsolete
>have to use the quicksaves otherwise you have to replay a ton of easy boring and dumb enemies if you fuck up one of the awkward platforming parts
It was kinda nice slicing goblins in half, but I got over it.
>>334299203
>>334299502
>Iron Keep
I just finished that place yesterday, it was really weird how far away those knights would rush you down from. But I don't think it took anything away from the game. For me it was just a new enemy type made me better at keeping my eyes open. I had more problems with the turtle knights in the tight corners, those maces will wreck your shit if you can't move around it.
>>334299041
I am pretty sure you just suck at the game to be perfectly honest. That is one of the easiest parts of the game. You fucking lock on, stay on the left of enemy and roll whenever they attack, then hit like any other fucking enemy in any souls game.
>>334292497
I'm going to be around for a long long time
>>334299953
Wahh why is my only exclusive whom i highly revere is shit?
>>334299853
>DeS ugly and unfinished, clunky
>DaS ugly and unfinished, good level design
>DaS2 ugly, dumb mechanics, shit level design, boring atmosphere, awful easy bosses
>Bloodborne is detailed, unique weapons, gr8 movesets, reactive fast gameplay, excellent memorable bosses, amazing level design, truly a masterpiece
>DaS3 only played 15 hours but it's already above DaS2 but not as good as Bloodborne
>>334292497
>being this much of an elitist faggot
>>334299706
Kings Field was a dungeon crawler.
DS is an action game.
>>334300405
>he never played bloodborne
>his first fromsoft game was prepare to meme edition
You are an embarassment
>>334300436
You didn't even mention the blood. Oh god, the blood was the best shit ever. Hitting an enemy and having him spray shit all over the place was great.
Only thing that could have made it better would have been it staining the walls and shit.
>all the people shit-talking DaS and saying DaS2 is better are complaining about the port
lol
>>334300436
This is 100% the only valid opinion in this thread. This guy gets it.
>>334300536
It's the exact same game in third person and with the ability to roll. Really anon, you have a very limited experience with dungeon crawlers and action games.
>>334300720
Please don't reply to yourself
>>334300436
Depends on what you're after. 3 evenings of DaS3 and I've barely scratched the surface of a sprawling overworld and multiplayer that is actually worth a damn.
By this point in bloodborne I'd cleared 75% of the main game and started side questing to get chikage.
So far, I'd say they're on-par with each other, although I'm annoyed at how FROM took the perfect badge system of BB's shop and made it near impossible to find merchant upgrades that would interest you organically.
>>334300436
So let me get this straight...
Even though you thought they were garbage, you still bought the first three Souls games and cleared them?
And it wasn't until Bloodborne that you actually enjoyed the series?
I'm having a hard time believing this m8.
I think you're just a Sonigger desperately trying to convince people that your only exclusive is better than it really is.
>>334300898
>>334300920
I agree with him. Though I don't think the previous games are garbage, with the way you guys make out DS2 to be complete trash, Bloodborne makes the rest of them seem like DS2 compared to the first playthrough of DS1.
>>334292497
I want my first souls game was dark souls fags to die. Play fucking demons souls you pussies.
Free dark souls loving people I know all gave up on demons or of frustration in 1-1 or 1-2
>>334299485
Don't have a shield. Temporarily playing a dex guy before I can transition into pure pyromancy.
>>334300335
Go fuck yourself. The knights and golems stick together and are weak to different kinds of physical damage. The golem needs blunt damage and the knights take pierce, while using the wrong one does shit damage. Also, if you don't think there's something wrong with the maces, go fight the village giants in Demon's Souls or the Ogres between Blighttown and Valley of Drakes. You could even backstab the ogres once you dodged. Mace Golems in Heide have NO downtime.
>>334296394
They reskinned and used some of the bosses.
>>334292497
Suicide is a viable alternative if you can't get your way
>>334300920
>you're just a Sonigger desperately trying to convince people that your only exclusive is better than it really is
It really is that good.
I hope one day you get to play it too.
>Bloodborn is actually good
I hate this meme.
>>334301219
Plan to do so tonight. I feel you were overreacting in the first place. They are honestly not that hard.
>>334293026
20 more than you'll ever get
>>334300920
>Even though you thought they were garbage
I never said that, i love all the games. BB is just the best looking and most complete, the best gameplay with the best level design and bosses.
There's nothing I like about Bloodborne, not the gameplay, the story, the level design, the monster design and especially not the aesthetics.
>>334299619
That sound exactly like DaS.
>>334300539
Actually i played all the souls games, along with that wankery shitfest that you jerk off to, but being an idiort i can give opinions without delusional.
>>334301387
>PCucks are STILL salty
>>334299898
But that's correct, it's a 4X game
>>334301567
Not the guy you are talking with, but I agree with what you said about BB and disagree with what you said about DeS, and DaS.
DaS2 was ugly though I agree.
Is there a looking glass knight boss in DAS 3 where it can summon actual players to fight you? I thought that was an awesome design desu
Im pretty much astounded that anyone believes losing health upon dying is a good game design
its basically the worst game design ever created? it punishes only one type of player, the new one, since experienced players just power through it and then farm a few dolls
this is 'make the gun shake around instead of making the game harder' call of duty level design
Why do you care if people played DaS2 first??
>>334302598
Just because it's a 4X doesn't mean it's not a turn based strategy game, you fuck.
It's possible to have rts and tbs 4X games.
>>334303158
Because memes.
DaS2 is stand alone plot-wise aside from one little detail, so you're fine playing it first.
>>334303051
It never fucking worked.
Old monk>>>>>>>>looking glass knight
>>334303681
>literally just a PvP fight
No.
>>334300918
>sprawling overworld
Mate, this is by far the most linear game in the franchise. The whole game is a glorified straight line.
>>334300918
>DaS3
>Overworld
man do I have some new that you aren't going to like
>>334304428
>>334305037
Well meme'd
>>334307464
Here's the thing: That bullshit image does nothing to highlight the fact you can't visit half those areas until much, much later in a completely linear fashion. You've literally got one fucking option at the start of the game until road of sacrifice, which simply splits to a dead end; nothing more than a detour before you're railroaded again.
>>334293595
DaS2 was an incredible turd compared to any Souls game.
>Dodge frame stat
>Worse animation than games that came out years earlier
>Terrible sound effects and spell effects
>bullshit parry frames before and after the "fix"
>Dull, forgettable bosses
>Horrible connection between players making PvP 10 times harder if you're not using a full retard thrust weapon
>player tracking on all mobs making dodging pointless.
Yeah, I could go on forever. Dark Souls 2 is a shit stain that I had to play for 600 hours before a real Souls game was released. The DLC was barely better than the base game. I'd still rather play DaS1 blighttown for the rest of my life than have whoever made Shit Souls 2 make another Souls game.
>>334307464
They brought back Anor Londo? How does that work?
>>334307932
But that's wrong, you can literally kill the dancer and go to lothric castle as soon as you get to that woman.
>>334307965
>this game was absolute shit
>I would know, I played for 600 hours
You know, nobody forced you to play the game. What kind of fuckwit would play a game they hated for 600 hours?
>>334307932
Oh, or Consumed King's Garden. The more you know.
>>334292497
I don't mind too much if people started with 2, but the worst thing is if they start with 2 than say they LOVE the souls games, but skip right to 3 without ever playing 1 or DeS
