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Let me guess, it's supposed to be called a machine gun because it has a drum clip?
Except that may well be an assault rifle.
A shitty one, but nevertheless. Not going to hit much without a stock.
>>334253234
>drum clip?
>>334253090
other then ew a g36, with out a stock no less. there's nothing to be triggered at.
I don't see the issue a gun is a gun.
>>334253234
beta c mag
>>334253090
>>334253234
>>334253260
>>334253324
>>334253332
i think the point is that it's a mash of random weapon parts
>>334253380
eh, it's just a g36 with no stock for some fuck of a reason, and a drum mag. Nothing too weird.
>>334253234
triggered
Love this game.
So making guns accessible in the first place is bad enough, but why are americans against regular check-ups? What bad could possibly come of the police picking up a shotgun some hillbilly left on the veranda?
>>334253380
No it is not. That is a g36 with a drum magazine, stock removed for some retarted reason.
Op is just a faggot who has learned from new battlefield games that anything with a drum magazine must be a light machine gun.
>>334253669
in america police need a warrant or to witness probable cause to search your property, since we are the land of the free.
>>334253723
The police isn't free to search dangerous criminals
>>334253669
Explain what you mean by check up.
Where I'm from, the cops don't bother a person unless there seems to be a problem.
>>334253090
Doesn't this technically count as a pistol due to goofy ATF regulations?
>>334253669
Because fuck you Europe.
The police do not have the right to inspect my property, and they will never get it. Further they don't know who owns guns anyway, since we don't have registration.
>>334253669
Don't forget
>black child playing with toy gun in public
>executed by police
>white family brings their assault rifles to wal-mart
>muh freedoms
Don't let anyone tell you America isn't a dystopia, anon-kun
>>334253762
leaving a weapon on your porch doesn't make you a dangerous criminal, it makes you an idiot. and it's fine to be an idiot here, since we are free to do as we wish.
>>334253867
I've wanted to go there all my life but I don't want to die. Figured I'd be safe since I'm white but then I see shit like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtNgvH1Jh3A
>>334253798
It depends if the receiver was made and classified as a pistol or a rifle.
If it was made as a pistol, it's just a goofy pistol.
If it was made as a rifle, or if someone puts a stock on it, it's a Short Barreled Rifle, since that barrel doesn't look 18 inches long.
>>334253669
>why no allow the police to check your house every once in a while, i mean, you've got nothing to hide, right?
Let the police go through your browsing history anon. Surely you have nothing to hide?
This is a bullshit argument. A hick living a shotgun laying around does nothing. Either the hick gets shot with his own gun by some porch monkey, or he lives in a rural area and nobody gives a fuck.
Leave people to their own damn business. If the police visit for a legal reason, and see the gun laying around unsafely, they can tell him to put it away, and in some parts of the US it is illegal to leave guns around in public view without being supervised/cared for.
How would that trigger me? It's a shitty G36K with a 100 rounds magazine and no stock. It's still an assault rifle.
>>334253867
White people with assault rifles don't usually run up to police-officers and aim at them.
>>334253962
My browsing history isn't going to be stolen and used to kill people.
>>334253867
>playing with gun in public
No, people had called in saying there was a kid with a gun and they didn't know if it was fake. Police showed up, he pointed it at them, they shot him.
That's not "playing with toy gun in public" you faggot.
And there's a difference between pointing a gun at somebody and carrying a rifle slung over your shoulder in a non threatening manner.
>>334254041
Neither are my guns.
>>334254076
Factually incorrect.
>>334254068
>there's a difference between pointing a gun at somebody and carrying a rifle slung over your shoulder in a non threatening manner.
Yeah, the toy gun can't kill me and the rifle can :^)
>>334253582
Wut gaem?
>>334254041
But what if it could? Would you be alright with police coming into your home, searching through your PC for torrent programs and websites and booking you for illegal actions, if it meant others would be hurt/harmed?
For some reason, I don't think so.
Also, point out to me where guns are stolen from outside the home in a statistical majority or at LEAST above 25% of the time. I don't know the figures, but I'm willing to reasonably assume that stolen guns are more likely stolen from inside the home.
But once again, you're treading on people's freedoms and liberties, to justify something that is a statistical minority.
>>334253867
how about some parenting, eh? you know, not letting your nine year old fucking son wave a fucking gun around on the fucking street?
>>334254118
Not stolen, acquired from a relative. They could have known location of safe keys/safe combinations.
>>334254125
0/10, work on your baito desu
>>334254041
it baffles me how a machine which can kill people only when misused has tons more regulations and shit than tools specifically designed to kill
>>334254118
I'd like to see the security measures the proper owners took to secure their guns.
Because mine are behind several locks. Most of the info I find suggests the guns were just in a drawer or closet, and not a safe.
An estimated 14,000-15,000 people died to gun related homicides in the US in 2014.
An estimated 100,000-3,000,000 self defense instances with a gun occur every year.
Whats more important, 14k lives or 100k lives?
Don't forget to factor in that an overwhelming portion of those 14k deaths are gang crime in shitholes like chicago that already have insanely strict gun control laws.
>>334254149
Nigger if my toaster proved a lethal danger to me, my family and everyone else on the planet I wouldn't just let the police inspect it, I'd take a hammer and destroy it. Stop with these inane comparisons.
>>334254041
>owning gun
>inb4 muh freedom xD
>>334254143
Resonance of Fate
>>334253867
>>black child playing with toy gun in public
>>executed by police
Good, never relax around nigletts
>>334254143
Resonance of fate.
>>334254234
probably because that machine that can only kill people when misused kills three times as many people on a yearly basis.
>>334254234
That's because you're looking at it the wrong way.
Most guns weren't made to be used to kill someone. They were made to sell and be used as elaborate hole punchers.
>>334253090
If you wanted a Resonance of Fate thread you should have just said so, anon.
>>334254292
Does that stupid little jigaboo know who he's messing with?
Hugh Jackman could buy his entire fucking village. He's also a really nice guy, as shown by the fact that he's willingly putting himself around niggers.
>black people
not even once
>>334254240
>inane comparisons
I'm not talking about the machine itself. I'm talking about your privacy and browsing history. If that specifically proved to be malignant and put other people's lives in jeopardy, would you be willing to let the police violate your privacy? No, you wouldn't.
Therefore police shouldn't be going to each house and making sure guns are locked up. That is for the individual to decide how to lock up their ordinance. If somebody wants to leave their gun outside (i'd like to see statistics on this as it's almost never happened), they are an idiot and should be subject to the full extent of the law should the police be patrolling and see an issue, or serving a warrant/performing a call and see the gun, but nobody should be made to register their firearm and have police routinely inspect their private property. That is not liberty, that is a minor form of tyranny.
>>334254468
Browsing the internet has a million uses. Owning a gun has one - Killing people. I suggest you work on your argument.
>>334253921
Okay, his hands weren't exactly "up" for the most time, however idk why American police doesn't even bother with warning shots or shooting in the legs.
>>334254524
killing people has many uses.
>>334254524
>. Owning a gun has one - Killing people
False.
>>334254550
if you knew anything about guns you'd know every shot is a shot to kill. There are no real safe places to shoot someone.
>>334254524
>one
Collecting, trading, investment, sporting, hunting, historical value.
I'm sure I'm missing a few.
>>334254589
What's some others?
Killing animals?
>>334254223
Unless the relative let them use a gun in that particular instanse, it's still a theft, anon.
>>334254237
People often bring up the "if it's locked I can't get it out on time" defense.
>>334254643
Shooting paper targets.
>Americans
>>334254306
That's fucking disgusting.
>>334254638
>collecting, trading, investment
could do this with something that isn't as dangerous
>sporting, hunting
see above, and hunting isn't exactly a necessity anymore
>historical value
probably not the kind of guns he's talking about
he doesn't mean some old blunderbuss he means mass produced modern guns
>>334254234
That's because cars are way more dangerous than guns
On average in 2012, 92 people were killed on the roadways of the U.S. each day, in 30,800 fatal crashes during the year.
11,208 deaths by homicide, 505 deaths due to accidental discharge of a firearm
>>334254675
That's training. The goal is still being able to shoot someone when necessary,
>>334254638
The only one of those defined by "use" is hunting and you don't need a handgun for that.
>>334254675
Why not let me build a nuclear warhead to prop open doors with too?
>>334254550
>warning shots
So, you mean shooting indiscriminately in a stupid manner which will kill other people? How about no.
>shooting in the legs
So, shooting a moving object, a small moving object? At a downward angle where the round WILL ricochet? How about no.
When a police shoot, they are using lethal force. If you're using a gun it's lethal force. Full stop. When someone points a gun at you, you do not have time for warning shots, because by then they've made their shot, and you're dead. You do not have time for retarded leg shots that you will miss, because again, that is how you end up dead. And how you end up hurting or killing other people, people who did not pose a threat to your life. It is downright irresponsible and suicidal to fire warning shots or aim for the legs. That is why the police do not do those things, because they are not suicidal and only want to hit the person who poses a threat.
>>334254550
our police are primarily trained as problem solvers, they don't get as much combat training as they really need. they specialize in domestic disputes, burglary investigations and traffic stops. when the shit hits the fan and they're dealing with some nut running around in the streets, they get nervous. and instead of risking a fist fight that they might lose, they would rather shoot to kill.
>>334254675
Why do you need a real gun for that?
>air rifles
>paintball guns
etc.
Face it there's no reason to own an actual gun
>>334254745
What's dangerous about someone using a gun responsibly to shoot paper targets for sport?
What else could you even use to replicate this sport? BB/Airsoft guns are no where near the same.
>>334254524
Wrong, they can also kill Aardvarks, Albatrosses, Alligators, Alpacas, Anacondas, Anteaters, Armadillos, Baboons, ect. The list goes on and on, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5TggMyoVL4
>>334254753
Not really. Sometimes it's just fun to shoot.
>>334254747
>11,208 deaths by homicide
>>334254524
Guns have more uses than that.
Besides, killing people has multiple uses:
>defending your life
>defending your asshole from being raped
>defending you PC from being stolen
>>334254757
>you don't need a handgun for that.
>need
There's that word. I can use a handgun for hunting, and in some cases, it's the more humane choice.
>>334254794
Tell that to the dude who died at a firing range because a kid who fucked up with a gun
I think it was last year, maybe the year before
>>334254792
Yes there is. Killing dirty commies like you, so you can't install commie regimes and send millions to gulags to die.
Get fucked.
>>334254854
You can use a slave to pick cotton too. Laws are for pussies.
>>334254550
I used to think this too but the more I thought about it, warning shots and such are really only ever used in fiction and movies and such. In real life when you're dealing with someone who's possibly armed and aiming what looks to be a real weapon at you, when split seconds matter, you're not going to carefully aim away and use warning shots as a way to intimidate or subdue them; you're going to neutralize your target, plain and simple.
>>334254118
we are aware that niggs keep stealing guns off each other, but we're talking about real americans who know about gun safety
>>334254417
>Hugh Jackman could buy his entire fucking village.
anyone with $50 bucks can buy their village.
>>334254864
Great counterargument
>guns are for crazy weirdos
>"no I'm not, tell me that again and I'll shoot you"
lel
>>334254753
Nope, its a leisurely activity. I suppose you could say you're training to shoot paper targets better and improve your marksmanship, which is personally why I enjoy shooting; you get to steadily improve and the improvements are very obvious.
I shoot paper targets for fun. I'm not "training" to kill people, considering where I live I highly doubt I'll ever actually need to shoot someone but I can rest easy knowing I can if I need to. I'm more than content with shooting paper targets because it is insanely fun if not a little expensive depending on what guns you use.
Gun control is proven to be effective in preventing armed crimes.
>>334254306
after some thinking i want to say that this desing isnt as retard as it seems.
that barrel mag is just an extention of the tube, where shells are usually stored in shotguns. also it is automatic shotgun, so i see this gas-tube that clearly is connected with mag.
i am not gun-nut in slightest, but can you pinpoint what exactly is wrong with this gun, weight distribution aside?
>>334254820
What? Surprised at how few people are killed by guns each year?
>>334254820
9,000 of those were probably gang related homicides. ms-13 and 18th street gangs. they are savage mexicans.
>Liberal pussies are so scared of guns they coin the term "assault rifle"
>Now shitty writers have convinced normies that assault rifle is an actual classification
>>334253861
Dont you mean you're mummy & daddys property
>>334254858
Oh, so you mean someone not properly and responsibly handing a gun?
>>334254792
t. Someone who has never shot a gun before (and probably doesn't understand basic physics)
Shooting a shitty airsoft rifle or BB gun is nowhere near comparable to an actual firearm.
>>334254916
Explain Chiraq
>>334254892
But there are laws against slavery, and more efficient things to use than a nigger.
There are regulations concerning what kind of pistol you can use to hunt, but unless there's a specific season for them separate from rifle hunting, none specifically against using one.
>>334254524
>Browsing the internet has a million uses
Yes, it does. One of which can kill people.
>>334254745
You're right. Finally someone with some sense. After we get rid of the gunfags, we can move onto every fossil fuel powered construct of conveyance and ban the slaughter of animals.
>>334254942
>what is the sturmgewehr-44
>>334254820
Just about a 10th of the number of legal self defense cases involving guns every year in america. Whats more important, 10k lives or 100k lives?
>>334254894
You mean white loners, right?
>>334253090
What type of clip does it use?
>>334253669
>please fuck me in the ass government-sama
>>334253867
>black child waving a real looking gun around and pointing at people in a threatening way
>white family shopping peacefully with their rifles slung on their shoulders
if you can't realize the difference you are a legitimate autist
>>334254769
>So, you mean shooting indiscriminately in a stupid manner which will kill other people?
Not him, but missing isn't hard. People do it all the time.
Don't forget liberals dump suicide deaths with guns into "gun deaths" statistics and keep inflating it.
Most of the gun crime is niggers with illegally acquired firearms.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>334254914
Eh, it works. It's why we have them. To kill dirty Europeans who want to take our rights.
You're all too suicidal (except the Czechs and Swiss) to learn from your own history, but Americans aren't. It's not like Europe's dictatorships are some far off thing. The USSR dissolved a couple decades ago. People were being murdered en masse in the Balkans at the same time. It will happen again, as it always has, and no amount of wishful thinking will change that. Quite the opposite.
>>334254929
But anon, one death by a firearm is one to many. Now pardon me while I engage in a sanctimonious circle jerk with my liberal friends.
Not surprised that a bunch of Europoor are against guns in these type of threads.
>>334254618
http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/parts/best-place-to-get-shot.htm
>>334254769
>>334254893
European police uses warning shots and I've never seen anyone bring up the issue of bullets dropping down and hitting random people. Isolated instances may appear but I imagine the probability of someone getting (lethaly) shot that way is astronomically low.
Furthermore, those cops seen in the aforementioned video weren't shooting at the moving target, they closed in on him and opened fire when they were within 2 meters.
>>334255090
Stripper clip.
>>334254942
Assault rifle is an actual classification
>An assault rifle is a fully automatic selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.
The term is misused all the time and confused with Assault Weapon, which means it has a shoulder thing that goes up.
>>334254753
>get your self an olympic grade target .22
>im training to kill people
>with .22`s
toppest fucking kek.
>>334255065
>gunfag logic
guiz you need a lethal weapon to protect yourselves
the reason you need this lethal weapon is because others have similar lethal weapons
guiz this is important
guiz p-plz listen :(((
I win.
>>334255006
>Explain Chiraq
I don't think anyone can my man. It's a mystery.
>>334255106
Sure, so there's no need to miss on purpose.
>>334255121
In New york just a couple years ago police hit 9 different bystanders while aiming for their target. They need no help in fucking up.
>>334255086
that 60% that steal it are majority black people in urban areas, not in north dakota where they use guns to kill pest animals
>>334255121
European police shoot people to save their lives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_75uR4u5YEs
>>334255168
Stupid, but not entirely incorrect.
>>334255156
A knife, baseball bat, tire iron, crowbar, tons of other perfectly legal items can be used as a lethal weapon against you.
Or just being outmanned. Plenty of people get jumped for the fucking change in their pockets by packs of niggers in NYC.
Good job arguing like a redditor though.
>>334254942
>>334255134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNjdlJxanmQ
>>334255168
>low quality gif
>>334255115
I get where they're coming from, I do. I'd make this country fascist to save my own friends and family.
We can't base policy on feelings though.
>>334255168
Is actually a neat concept provided the cylinders could be produced cheaply enough.
>>334255238
What's this from
>>334254774
>when the shit hits the fan and they're dealing with some nut running around in the streets, they get nervous. and instead of risking a fist fight that they might lose, they would rather shoot to kill.
Then they should reconsider their career choice. Ideally police officers should choose from those with the best composure, be better trained, rotated and of course compensated accordingly.
Knowing that legal representatives of the government may at any times shoot me in my face because he has a bad day really undermines my respect and increases distrust. Christ, in my country the streets aren't treated like open warfare grounds.
>>334254917
>that barrel mag is just an extention of the tube, where shells are usually stored in shotguns. also it is automatic shotgun, so i see this gas-tube that clearly is connected with mag.
For the shells to be moved from the drum magazine to the tube magazine would be impossible because the tube magazine has a spring at the front of it.
>i am not gun-nut in slightest, but can you pinpoint what exactly is wrong with this gun, weight distribution aside?
There is no reasonable way for a shell to be moved from the drum to the rear of the gun.
The chamber of the barrel has to be just forward of the ejection port and the shell has to be moved to behind the chamber for it to be put in there.
Also, there is zero room behind the ejection port for the bolt to move backwards into.
>>334255006
>Explain Chiraq
Yes ?
>>334255185
This is why I feel reassured that I share a shooting spot with some cops.
Because I know they at least know how to use their guns, now if only they'd pick up their damn brass.
>>334255337
>Knowing that legal representatives of the government may at any times shoot me in my face because he has a bad day
Dude get off the fucking internet for 5 minutes holy shit.
>>334255114
You do realize Europe's laughingstock is still better than the USA, right?
>>334255191
>Sure, so there's no need to miss on purpose
The use of warning gunfire seems like a threat neutralizer beneath shooting someone but above talking to someone who isn't compliant.
>>334255121
>actually start reading this
>"In Sizemore's opinion, there's no single best place to be shot. Ballistics -- the study of the projectiles, like bullets -- is too much of a gamble"
wew lad. thanks for the information
>European cops use warning shots
>google this
>about 12 million results for "not recommended". no immediate results for anyone ever saying otherwise in regards to Europeans
gonna need a citation on that.
anyways, heres this article i found that says its a bad idea
http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/parts/best-place-to-get-shot.htm
>>334255117
Dumbest picture I've ever seen.
>>334255376
what do you want ?
>>334255417
Not in America since everyone has a gun and you're legally allowed to shoot people on the street.
Even if it's a minor dispute, it's shoot or get shot.
>>334255305
The only cheap way I can think of is to use plastic, but they wouldn't be able to handle the pressure. A magazine is infinitely more practical, with negligible drawbacks.
>>334255401
>living near poor people
Everyone is poor in poland and they've learned to get along. In america there are things people don't have that other people are willing to die to get :^)
It always makes me smile when someone I was arguing with stops responding, educating idiots one reply at a time!
>>334255337
you're exaggerating, they won't shoot you just because they're having a bad day. they may shoot you if you are acting like a maniac and resisting arrest, which is what happened in that video. also not many people want to be police officers, most people who do it are no different from other blue collar workers. every now and then you get a military vet. but people with combat training are hard to come by, and the other aspects of their training cover the things that they will be doing 95% of the time.
>>334255168
>>334255221
>>334255295
>>334255305
its literally a part of the lore. those are ceremonial pistols for parades and shit. they were so desperate for fire arms they started converting them to live fire instead of blanks. ergo, they probably were not rimmed and therefor, the cases didnt eject properly with the ejector rod, or, it simply didnt have one. so its easier to pretty much wedge them in/glue it and just have multiple cylinders
the more you know
>>334255484
>Not in America since everyone has a gun
exaggeration
>you're legally allowed to shoot people on the street
depending on local law and individual situations
I had cops in mind anyway.
>>334255206
There's a video of an American sniper shooting the pistol out of a suicidal guy's hand, your point?
>>334255305
>Is actually a neat concept provided the cylinders could be produced cheaply enough.
No. Round things are more difficult to carry. Square magazines are more compact, carry more rounds and are probably faster to reload.
If it isn't 1863 you don't need to change the cylinder to reload fast.
>Cop stops a nignog
>Nignog chimps out and aggressively approaches police officer with a hand behind his back
>Cop takes step back, draws his gun, and tells the nog to show his hands
>Nog makes a drawing motion from behind his back and points his fingers like he was holding a gun
>Gets shot
>"HE DINDUNUFFING"
>"Cops kill because of finger gesture baka"
Kill everyone who sides with the dindu in that fucking video
>>334255630
Show me the video of a bobby executing an unarmed man.
>>334255401
>more likely to die as a baby
>make 60 percent less money
>7 percent less free time
>die 3 years earlier
>have less sex
>be 40 FUCKING PERCENT more likely to be jobless
>but your 80% less likely to be murdered
>as in, your chance could be .001%
>and your odds droped to .002% or such
thats fucking horrifying
Loading my clipazine.
>>334255401
>better
I don't think you understand the term.
>poorer
>can't afford gas or electricity
>no class divide, everyone is poor
>die younger than a 700lb landwhale, despite glorious European healthcare
>less free time
>less likely to be murdered, but will be murdered by Russians or Germans within the next 20-30 years anyway
>>334255593
Alright, but the way he flicks it is still retarded.
With an unsecured cylinder, he's likely to just hit himself in the face, and the way he spins it leaves it possible that it won't align with a chamber.
>>334255401
Those are literally nigger statistics.
>>334255449
>if you knew anything about guns you'd know every shot is a shot to kill
does not equal
>there's no single best place to be shot.
"People get shot in fatal areas and live, and others get shot in non-lethal areas and die,"
"Hearts can be repaired. There is such a thing as an artificial heart. But as far as I know there are no artificial brains."
"But the brain isn't necessarily the most lethal place to be shot. From 1982 to 1993, 66 percent of patients treated at Cook County Hospital in Chicago for gunshot wounds to the head survived"
"Based on their location and relative distance from vital organs, your hands or feet appear to be the best place to take a bullet. Getting shot in a foot or hand would certainly shatter most of the many bones there, and it would be an extremely painful experience, but it would pose little deadly threat. What's more, although you have plenty of bones there to shatter, the fragments are less likely to travel easily to your vital organs, like your heart. Plus, with your hands and feet as relatively thin as they are, a bullet also has a better chance of passing through your body before it transfers the full extent of its power. You might suffer a disability, but you'd be more likely to live through the experience."
You didn't even read the whole article, just found one sentence that was somewhat close to your stance and called it a day. You're not a dumb American, you're a dumb 4channer.
Also I see the mention of at least 4 instances of warning shots in my first google page:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/american-cops-lethal_us_565cde59e4b079b2818b8870
http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/app/conversion/pdf/?library=ECHR&id=001-83764&filename=001-83764.pdf&TID=thkbhnilzk
http://hrlc.org.au/failure-to-adequately-investigate-claim-of-excessive-police-force-a-violation-of-echr/
http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/app/conversion/pdf/?library=ECHR&id=003-2541693-2753471&filename=003-2541693-2753471.pdf&TID=ihgdqbxnfi
I think this is mexico or some other latin south america shithole.
>>334255006
>Explain Chiraq
What a man.
He didn't shit but he was a real human bean.
>>334255689
>Show me the video of a bobby executing an unarmed man.
Just because someone is unarmed it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be shot in self-defense.
There is something called theory of mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind
Now realize that the police officer doesn't know everything you know in posterity about the situation. If a person presents a credible threat they can be taken down. A credible threat can be an unarmed person who is acting like they are armed. They give reasonable pretense to believe they are armed. The officer must act with that assumption.
>>334255872
Anon, that's a woman. It's not fair to judge any people by that.
>>334255401
80% less likely to be murdered doesn't matter if the statistic is already low. Lets assume this means that you are twice as likely not to die or be present in an event which would cause you to die.
double nothing is still nothing.taking a 0.002% chance down to 0.001% is nothing.
Everything else is fucking horrifying. 40% more likely to be unemloyed, when the unemployment rate for america is already abysmally low, and you make 60% less money. The money part isn't so much a problem as the average wage is fucking pennies in america, but still.
You gain 0.001% chance of living, over a loss of lifestyle, income and equality of opportunities.
I'd rather live in the US, and I'm australian.
>>334254417
Good thing he is aussie and could handle the banter
>>334256046
This can't be real, it's something you'd expect to see them post on April 1st.
>>334255938
>Just because someone is unarmed it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be shot in self-defense.
>>334256046
think about intent rather than the weapon lethality.
And yes you can still kill someone with a butterknife. #lurpakshakur
>>334256128
you ever been in a fight with a guy who is high on pcp, heavier and taller than you?
Why can't /pol/ stay in /pol/? How is this video games?
>>334255689
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a2_1346852084
7 shots point blank back of head. turned out he was carrying a newspaper
so uh, where do we backtrack from here
>tfw lots of guns
>tfw a tenth the homicide rate of USA:ians thanks to registration
Americans don't know this feel.
>>334255974
Story?
>>334256251
>thanks to registration
Tell me your population, poverty level, and demographics
>>334253921
There is no more evil, corrupt and dangerous entity than the police
I would rather be in the custody of a drug dealer than those fucking pigs - at least if I die, my death will be investigated
>>334255825
how do you know its unsecured, and that it isnt designed to self align on the trigger pull, it being specifically designed to be safe to shoot in a parade or ceremonial event? its a science fiction game. thats a handwave away, "thank god for the one use latches" or something equally as meaningless
>>334256248
You just shot yourself in the foot, because now you can no longer claim regulation leaves you undefended.
>>334256179
Yeah, but I still love my dad.
>>334256273
got the bicycle wheel one?
>>334256251
or maybe it's thanks to the fact that you don't have half a billion people in your country, tens of millions of them immigrating from countries like el salvador and honduras.
>>334255885
Do you want a bunch of black examples? Come to one of our county jails or state prisons. FUCKING. ANY. Your puny yuro mind will be blown the fuck away.
>>334256324
100% islamic
>>334255870
>safest place
does not mean
>safe
sorry, try again. as per fucking stated, by YOUR source
>"In Sizemore's opinion, there's no single best place to be shot. Ballistics -- the study of the projectiles, like bullets -- is too much of a gamble"
>>334253921
Tasers for 1000$, Alex
>>334256308
>south america
drugs
>>334256324is this gun any good because it looks totally retarded
>>334256402
What website?
>>334256379
Just proving you wrong. Go ahead and rephrase your argument before you humiliate yourself any further.
>tfw not american
>tfw noguns
>>334254942
>being this fucking stupid
>>334254550
>shoot someone in the legs
>hit femoral artery
>they bleed out to death in minutes
This >>334254618
guy has it right.
>>334255870
>huffington post
top lel, the guys who argue agaisnt gun rights but carries guns themselves and their security gaurds because
well, guns are fucking helpful? oh well
as for the other two, nah, cant open them on my phone, sorry.
again, youve confused, safer, as safe. right after he stated that its literally, a gamble.
>>334256364
>half a billion people
:/ m8
>>334256402
kek
>>334256251
Where? Chances are our murder rate, even with all guns taken completely out of the equation, is higher than yours.
Americans are just more violent. We're plenty content to beat eachother to death if there are no guns available.
It's mostly due to niggers but not entirely. It's part of why we're so great. Europeans are pussies. Americans are dicks, and frankly we've been quite successful because of it.
>>334256128
Yeah. Just because someone is unarmed, it doesn't mean that lethal force can't be used. The officer, like all people, has a right to defend themselves. If a person gives reasonable indication that they are armed and about to attempt to harm, they are a credible threat and should be neutralized. Such as if they put their hand in their pocket and stand in such a way that suggests they are armed.
If someone is agitated and yells that they are going to get a gun, turns around and reach into the trunk of their car, they are a credible threat. Even if there was never a gun in the first place.
Theory of mind is something that most children develop by age 5. You should try to master it. The police officer does not know as much as you do about a situation because you have the benefit of posterity. He has to make a decision within seconds with scant information. You have days worth of investigation to look at.
>>334256329
Because he can drop the cylinder just by poping it out. And that simply isn't how revolvers work, like shutting a cylinder then spinning it. It's increasing the likelihood that you won't be able to fire.
And if they couldn't figure out a better way to reload than dropping a cylinder, they can't work out that kind of problem.
>>334256128
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=one+punch+kill
>>334255676
None of your
>implications
happened the way you described them in your video.
>"nignog" is running away from them with his hands spread out
>cop keeps approaching him
>there's no "drawing motion", he keeps his arms away from his tights at all times
Etc. etc.
>>334255156
>guiz if you don't get a lethal weapon those other guiz that don't respect teh law surely won't bother you
>>334255771
Plz anon, I'm not a gun-nut by any means but that gif hurts to watch
>>334256575
Americans are Europeans though. And Europeans have been killing each other practically non-stop for the past 2000 years.
>>334256567
we have more people living here than the entire european union combined. literally more people than an entire continent.
>>334256480
>Go ahead and rephrase your argument before you humiliate yourself any further.
I said it right the first time cuck and I can't humiliate myself because i'm anonymous. Anything else I can help you being wrong with today.
>all these people replying to the bait
>>334256460
>low recoil
>high capacity
>low weight
>light ammo
>difficult to maintenance
>a fraction the effective range of an m16
>other stuff i invite others to mention.
It's good for fun shooting and vidya not for war.
>>334256460
It's more needlessly complex than most german guns.
Let that sink in, then learn about Kraut Space Magic.
>>334256460
>is this gun any good because it looks totally retarded
Developed by a Germany company. It used caseless ammunition. Some of the mechanisms inside are insanely complex. It feeds from the rear, from a magazine mounted parallel with the barrel. The caseless ammunition has been a long time desired thing because of the weight saving of not using the brass cartridges.
The U.S. military trialed it for adoption as a service rifle. They did not accept it. It's an interesting but flawed design.
>>334256576
You can't kill someone just for being threatening.
>>334256713
Yes, but not half a billion people. 314 mil+ is still not half a billion people.
>>334256798
>IM GONNA BLOW UP THE ENTIRE BLOCK WITH THESE EXPLOSIVES
>lel its just a threat
>BREAKING NEWS, 142 DEAD IN CITY BLOCK EXPLOSION
>>334255974
Brutal
I never understood why police here wear green uniforms instead of the classic blue most police forces wear.
Also, why are they called carabineers? They used to carry carbines at some point?
>>334256798
>You can't kill someone just for being threatening.
...Actually you can. And it's better than taking the chance that the crazy, pacing, yelling guy in front of you with his hand behind his back that just said "IMMA STAB YOU BITCH!" "WITH MY KNIFE!" is just joking.
>>334256797
>mfw some other dude just hollowed out the inside of the bullets and put the propellant there and invented, and used caseless ammunition before the germans did
>>334256808
so what? have you ever had a conversation outside of the internet? sometimes people slightly exaggerate numbers so they don't have to say the exact amount. and in 20 years it will be half a billion people.
If britcucks still had guns, then Rotterham and the literally thousands of other cases of child sex slavery couldn't have happened
The parents could have went in and executed all the son of bitches after their corrupt pigs refused to do anything
>>334256860
>Wooow how was I supposed to know I can't shoot children
>>334256860
>I'M GONNA KILL YOU WHEN I GET MY HANDS ON YOU
*one shooting later*
>WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE JOHNSON, SHE WAS JUST ANGRY AT HER KID FOR JOYRIDING IN HER CAR!?!!??!
>>334256496
>tfw retards listen to 4chan instead of their own countries laws
Name one country where it is illegal to own ANY gun, the overwhelming majority are just heavily regulated. A lot of the cool guns are banned in a lot of places, but guaranteed you can still legally get a shotgun or a .243 Rifle to shoot rabbits and shit with.
>>334256708
>Americans are Europeans
Nah, we're something else. A little crazier, a little more violent, a little less content, a little more belligerent. There's no American alive whose culture lines up with a European.
>And Europeans have been killing each other practically non-stop for the past 2000 years.
And they're finally tired of it. At least for now.
>dislike guns
>think they aren't really needed
>eventually get curious about them
>go with dad to one of his friends' houses, he's really desperate for money, so he sells me a hi-point .45 for about $80, no questions or forms to fill out
>grandfather/father take me out to shoot
>full course about firearm safety
>emphasize never to aim the weapon at anything you are not willing to destroy
>emphasize to always keep ammunition and the firearm in separate conditions
>always keep the weapons pointed at the ground or on a table whilst waiting to fire/etc
>basically respect the damn thing you're holding, it fires bullets that are designed to kill
>very scared of the gun, but I'm shown how to load and fire it
>endd up being a really fun experience
>If you've never owned or fired a firearm you seriously need to, it will change your opinion really quick.
>nothing compares to the feeling of the recoil and seeing that whatever you just fired at now has a hole in itit means fuckall now that I keep the firearm stashed in my room, easy access and always loaded, nobody knows where it is but I can reach it from where I am sleeping, what's funny is I don't really feel any safer but at least I know I can defend myself now.
>>334256308
in order to fight crime, cops increased the punishment for crimes higher and higher. eventually, simple theft was punishable by on the spot executions. now, if you know you can be killed for just stealing a doughnut, when you DO steal the doughnut, are you going to leave any witnesses?
nope. moral of the story, stop wondering why crime is so bad if you create an enviroment where anything worth more then a buck is worth murdering over. you think people are going to STOP stealing food to survive, if they are just gonna die anyway? fuck no. they will take the loaf, and because of self preservation instincts, cap the owners.
>>334256989
I looked it up. gun laws here are sort of heavily regulated and expensive.
>>334256478
filename
>>334256886
>I never understood why police here wear green uniforms instead of the classic blue most police forces wear.
Probably to give a threatening army look.
>Also, why are they called carabineers? They used to carry carbines at some point?
Policing in the countryside used to be done in many places by dragoons, gendarmes, carabiniers, carabinari, etc. Dudes riding horses. Horsemen always carried carbines because a longer gun is a big hassle on horseback.
>>334256928
Of couse, but I've been on /his/ for a while. Being wrong by over 100 million is an issue.
>>334256557
What if they don't hit the femoral artery? Not every gunshot is lethal, as evidenced in the very same source the guy is quoting in a vain attempt at proving me wrong.
>>334256562
>huffington post
I just showed you that warning shots are part of the normal European police procedure - which is exactly what we were "arguing" about. What are you rambling on about and how is that relevant?
>right after he stated that its literally, a gamble.
If every shot is a shot to kill then it's not a gamble.
>>334257047
Punishment doesn't exist. Nobody benefits from punishment. Law enforcement is all about the two Rs, Rehabilitation or Removal.
Usually a court of law is more qualified at deciding between the two than you and your handgun.
>>334257083
Learn about anatomy, targeting, and bullet expansion.
>>334257076
and you probably took the number from the census from 6 years ago, so you are also wrong. now go suck a bag of dicks.
To all the people who actually argue against guns, explain this to me
How is it that even though gun sales in America have continued to grow since the 90s, overall violent crime has gone down? Also, if the advancements of gun technology have become more and more dangerous, why has there not been a school shooting/massacre in America that ended with more fatalities than Bath School in 1927?
>>334257190
b-because the news said so
>>334257124
Not for normies
All they care about is revenge
They see a criminal, they want them to suffer and die
>>334257190
crazy fucker used explosives for the bath school disaster, not guns.
>>334257001
I was the same anon
>tfw riding around in a 4WD at 1am spotlighting Rabbits and Kangaroos with a 12 gauge pointing out every window
I really want an O/U Short barrelled 12 guage now.
>>334257050
Where's here?
>>334257069
Thats makes sense
>>334257243
And anyone can go buy fertilizer. 5 minutes of google and you got yourself a bomb.
I know nothing about guns, but are guns really as inaccurate as they are in video games?
And what about reload times, when you take the magazine out of the glock does it always take super long to put it back in with all bullets inside the magazine?
>>334257190
I'll answer if you can explain to me why school shootings have increased 5000% the last two decades without guns being the issue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States
>>334257291
The police tracks and registers anyone who uses the internet for bomb recipes.
Gunfags are literally special snowflakes.
>>334257083
A bullet doesn't just make a clear hole through your flesh and bone anon, I remember reading a story about a woman who miraculously survived being shot by a pistol at point blank in a carjacking, the article went on with research saying that a point blank shot with a weasly 9mm will tear up all the flesh and arteries from the entry point into an orange sized sphere. Imagine what higher caliber bullets can do to you from any range?
I don't know what the term is for the damage but hopefully some /k/ommando can steer you in the right way.
>>334257143
How is this relevant to the "discussion" at hand? Would it tell me anything new compared to the source I just provided?
Or maybe you should, for once, provide a valid source of your insane "every shot is a shot to kill" claims?
>>334257083
no, you didnt, actually, the article mostly talked about spain. i mean, besides the fact the huffington is hypocrites to begin with, and all.
>If every shot is a shot to kill then it's not a gamble.
exactly. why? well, heres a man with a knife killing a cop who wouldnt shoot first because "they might kill him".
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/comments/3y2r67/one_police_officer_killed_one_critical_after/
oh, and heres another of an american cop getting wasted because he was being disciplined for being too triggy happy. you can hear the brain damage kicking in after a small cavity is made in his skull.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1150706/WARNING-GRAPHIC-Police-officer-shot-dead-Vietnam-veteran.html
and you know what, what if, when you saw a cop pull a gun, you...stopped committing a crime. i mean, if you know your going to die, why keep goi-oh, right, because since you cant just shoot criminals, they have a chance to get away.
hmmm. funny that.
>>334257001
>>If you've never owned or fired a firearm you seriously need to, it will change your opinion really quick.
>Pretending his opinion is universal
In NZ we don't have any gun culture, literally at all. It's only in USA and South America that it's almost mainstream to jack off to guns and the idea of shooting things/people.
I say that because I've done exactly what you describe, here in school trips you're taken out to a rifle range, you learn about guns, you learn about shooting. I fired a .22 and .303 then as a young teenager, spent an afternoon trying different ammo, enjoyed watching my tracer bullets fly through the air and even learned how retarded "Gangsta style" pistol shooting is for trying to actually hit anything. Some years later my dad brought a slug gun and I used it to ping at cans or such every now and then when bored.
And I still have zero desire to own a gun or to fire anything more than a novelty (might be fun to try a bazooka or AK47 once sometime, could check that out next time I'm in Thailand).
Gun culture in America is literally fucking crazy. And your wacked out belief that "You just need to try it mang!" is both stupid and a really blatant "No true scotsman."
>>334257304
Psychiatric drugs
>>334257292
Some guns are more accurate than other, and there's a lot of factors involved.
And reload time is mostly personal. I don't see why the amount of bullets in the mag would matter much.
>>334257304
Honestly, I can't explain why the rate has increased so much, maybe kids are getting the wrong ideas thanks to bad influences over the internet, but if these kids didn't have access to guns and really wanted to kill, they would have found another weapon like a knife
>>334257246
3rd world shitholePhilippines
we still got plenty of WWII firearms though
>>334257304
because attendance of schools and quantity of schools increased by about 5000%, as well as minumum required attendence and such.
>>334255298
Why not base them on the fact that they work?
>>334254239
Nice sourced facts.
>>334257292
>I know nothing about guns, but are guns really as inaccurate as they are in video games?
No. Try out Arma 3. It's not perfect but pretty accurate.
A standard m4 like the US army uses is effective out to 500m. Meaning a trained shooter is expected to be able to shoot things at 500m. You can go well past that range, but the 5.56 round loses shitloads of power and fails to fragment, meaning you're basically shooting .22's, which isn't all that effective. A really good shooter could make shots at 800m though.
That's not even a specialized long-distance rifle, it's a short, carbine length rifle with a round hardly designed for long distance shooting.
>and what about reload times, when you take the magazine out of the glock does it always take super long to put it back in with all bullets inside the magazine?
No. You can reload very quickly if properly trained.
>>334257304
>overall gun deaths go down
>even through an economic recession
>even through the expiration of a national assault weapons ban
>school shootings go up
Clearly the issue isn't guns. The issue is, and has already been recognized before, the goddamn news. Copycat attacks are hardly an unknown phenomenon. Glorifying school shooters and reporting on them 24/7 is bound to have an effect.
>>334257501
>I don't know what the term is for the damage but hopefully some /k/ommando can steer you in the right way.
I think it's called wound cavitation.
>>334253867
>caring about niggers
>>334257540
Just like in the Netherlands, right?
>>334257567
Just like in Europe, right?
>>334257648
Just like in Europe, right?
>>334257692
Just like in Europe, right?
How about I rephrase it as this - How come America is the only country in the world to see school shootings on a weekly basis?
>>334255238
>they're white and not migrants
nah m8
>>334257527
>one in four
>no gun culture
lel
![[freedom ringing in the distance].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BzGOMG0.jpg "[freedom ringing in the distance]")
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>334257292
>can AWP fags like nothing in CS
>first time using a Scoped Rifle
>use my brother in laws .243 with Scope to try and shoot a beer can 100 metres away
>whoah this gun is heavy to hold dead straight
>rest it on something
>try and line up shot
>crosshair is moving all over the place despite breathing slow and trying to keep it still
>try and AWP it like I do in CS JUST as the crosshair moves onto beer can
>gunshot sounds EXACTLY like the AWP sound
>shot landed a foot below it
I have a newfound respect for people hunting and target shooting with scopes, shit is pretty hard to get used to, for a newbie anyway.
>>334257502
When someone is trying to kill you, or worse someone else, why would you not make every shot a potential kill shot?
Anatomy to learn where the major arteries and organs are. Targeting to learn where the most effective places to aim are, mostly center mass. Bullet expansion to learn how a 9mm can expand to the size of a .45 caliber.
Also the difference between entry and exit wounds, which is exponential. Finger sized entry, fist sized exit.
There is no safe place to shoot someone.
>>334257794
>school attendence increased in europe
haha, good one
>>334255310
common cctv from england
>>334257794
>How about I rephrase it as this - How come America is the only country in the world to see school shootings on a weekly basis?
Europe is comprised of a shitload of small countries. All of them have a smaller population than the U.S. and it makes no sense to compare the absolute frequency of school shootings.
>>334257794
Maybe it's because we've got 320 million citizens and near unrestricted access to guns
However that is the price of freedom
>>334257794
we don't have school shootings on a weekly basis. what are your shitty saudi owned news broadcasters saying about us over there?
>>334257810
No clue what the fuck that even means
>>334257224
I really hope you get fucking mugged and you realize how retarded sympathizing with criminals is.
>>334257603
What are the Phillipines laws like? Can't imagine they are much worse than Australias.
>>334257923
that despite gun violence dropping like a rock, despite there being more automatic weapons in america then there has ever been in recorded history, isolated incidents related more to americas shabby mental health system then access to guns are more important then peoples freedoms. see, i know someone who died in a car accident. despite cars being safer, and more common then ever in the history of man kind, we must ban cars, they are dangerous.
>I can't get a gun or job because i stole a car at 18 years old
>meanwhile, the kid from high school that ran like naruto and duct taped a calculator to his arm can
>>334257501
hydrostatic shock? It's a myth.
What does happen is a temporary wound cavity, a larger wound cavity that is created when the bullet first enters, it creates this big fucked up wound that isn't present at the end, the permanent wound cavity.
Also you have rounds that tumble like 5.45, spinning end over end turning your body into a meat blender. 5.56 that fragments, sending little shards in every direction ripping up all your squishy vital stuff, and hollowpoints that mushroom out, just creating a larger cavity.
>>334257949
>one in four
>1 of every 4
>hmmmm, what could that possibly mean in relation to guns
remember, this is the guy who thinks guns should be banned.
>>334257304
Social media.
Every single killer has their face plastered all over the news, all over the fucking planet. An unbalanced person who hates everything is now GUARENTEED fame and notability by going out and killing innocent people.
>>334258064
hydrostatic shock isn't a myth, it's just negligible in most handgun calibers
>>334257871
European union has 500 million citzen.
Compeate that to your tiny 250 million.
>>334257739
>>334258064
Well, fuck. Neat info to know.
>>334256346
i had to look up this one
>>334257794
>Just like Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks
137 died in one day, more than every school shooting in America for the past six years, so much for gun control right :^)
>>334257871
The EU is way bigger than the USA.
>>334258118
320 million*
and you are still comparing a union to a single country
>>334258006
yeah, like sex offenders. could you imagine being friendly with anyone who had sex with an underaged woman?
>65% of the population has had sex by the time they are 16
well...you have a mother. and a father. thats two people, and a 65% one of them committed statutory rape. so, which one are you going to disown
oh, and, its only been about 115 years since the minimum age for marriage was, well, 12 years old. so...how many grandparents have you got. which ones are you going to disown?
>>334258135
14,059 American POWs died in captivity during WW2, totally the same thing right
At least europe is being invaded, in america they're just killing their own
>>334255168
>>334255221
>>334255593
>>334255825
Does this mean DX:HR's revolver is retarded too?
>>334258085
Not him but what are you talking about?
>>334258183
Unlike what, the UNITED STATES of America with 51 separate constitutions? Idiot.
>>334258052
Why do you want a gun?
so you can steal some more stuff?
>>334258228
wow, thats almost a TENTH of germany, a place with with a THIRD of the people!
wait a second
>>334258250
Never played Deus Ex. Show me a gif and I'll let you know.
>>334258278
correct
you'd think it would be a better idea to compare each state separately with each European country then, right?
>>334258228
i thought the attackers were french citizens who were recruited by isis?
>>334256117
Weapon sweeps are looking for things crammed into walls and vaguely hidden by thugs on estates expecting to get into fights. Basically all they're doing is pulling shit out of the cracks in walls.
>>334258250
well, yeah. an expanding diameter as you add more bullets would no longer line of correctly with the barrel. considering every shot blows the gun in half and also your hand off, id say its a bit retarded
>>334258287
I'll steal regardless
>>334258339
Since that too would be in favor of my argument, definitively. I bet there are more school shootings in Alaska than all of the EU combined.
>>334258132
Wheels can be dangerous
>>334258085
I'm waiting for you to explain, so I can point out why you're wrong and why you've completely failed to understand the country.Find a single instance of my post anywhere, in even a single place, where I implied in any way that guns should be banned.
This is the kind of person who argues about gun rights.
>>334258183
Usa are nothing more thena union.
A union of staats.
Texas can go when they want. And so forth.
>>334253867
Crying after a nigger who got what he deservd.
Stealing ,robbing and raping.
Niger lived and died like a nigger.
Nothing of value is lost.
>>334258390
focusing on school shootings is misleading, since they make up such a small percentage of our gun crime that it's almost literally not important
>>334255974
>dat blood leaking out at 0:45
eww
/k/ please leave /v/
>>334258268
okay, fine, spoonfeed time. thats how many guns to people there are, in NZ. now, considering that only about half of that is male, and around 2/3rds of them are actually over 18, that means of the 25% of the population that could own guns, 20% of them own guns.
which means, the gun ownership of people who CAN own guns, is about 80%.
so how about dat no gun culture
>>334257501
And yet not everyone who gets shot dies. Which is the entire point of my argument that gets twisted around by victims of Murrican education.
>>334257520
If you're so eager to dismiss my sources then you can remain ignorant.
>links
Those officers misjudged the situation and paid the price for it. Those examples only appear relevant on the surface - I'm not arguing police should never use lethal force but should rather show restrain until it's necessary.
>If every shot is a shot to kill then it's not a gamble.
Do you even know what are we even talking about at this point? You said every shot is a shot to kill, I showed a source claiming that it's not that way. You then proceeded to use the aforementioned quote whereas I pointed out you can't talk about certainty of death if the very same source claims gunshots are a gamble.
>>334257852
>When someone is trying to kill you, or worse someone else, why would you not make every shot a potential kill shot?
If that is the case then I would try to take them down, yes. However the case I've brought up shows a guy running away from the police without being a threat to them or anyone else. You may recall that the person (with hands keeping away from his torso) was within 2 meters of the officers slowly backing off when they started blasting him. That is an overuse of force, especially since from that distance, on an almost stationary target, they could've aimed BETTER.
>Also the difference between entry and exit wounds, which is exponential. Finger sized entry, fist sized exit.
You make it sound as if every gunshot was lethal - which it isn't.
Tell me, does hearing about people being rushed to hospital after sustaining a gunshot wound surprise you? Would you rather left them bleeding on the ground? What about other dangerous accidents?
>>334258483
>If you're so eager to dismiss my sources then you can remain ignorant.
>whats that? links to sources? dismissed!
wew lad
>>334253669
SHALL NOT
BE
INFRINGED
>HURR, WHEN THEY SAID THAT PEOPLE HAD THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, THEY MEANT USING MUSKETS
Guns that could fire multiple rounds were literally being developed on the day the 2nd Amendment was written, they were not idiots and fucking wrote "shall not be infringed" for a fucking reason
Is this from Resident Evil Dead Aim?
>>334256324
was that a magazine for loading a magazine? i'm not sure i understand the point of that
>>334258476
>okay, fine, spoonfeed time. thats how many guns to people there are, in NZ.
Lol? NZ Gun ownership is less than 10% of the country.
> the gun ownership of people who CAN own guns, is about 80%.
That's one (stupid) way to interpret that statistic. Here's a smarter way. "The people who can own guns in NZ are the ones who have a gun liscence. 80% of the people with a gun liscence have guns."
WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW
>it'sfuckingnothing
I can't believe how fucking retarded you'd have to be to seriously try read that statistic as if NZ has a gun culture.
>>334258553
pro gun here, just wanna point out that thats a stupid argument.
guess else wasnt to be infringed. male voting dominence. oh, then we amended it, so women could vote. you see anyone walking around yelling MUH CONSTITUTION, MUH VOTING POWER
no, because it was fucking designed to be changed, hence the term: amendment. anyone yelling shall not be infringed, is really just yelling
shall not be infringed* unless the people democratically decide to
>>334258476
Gun culture =/= owning guns
>>334255974
>shooting in the middle of a busy highway
glad i don't live in a third world shithole
>>334258328
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n77LlDnDPo8
0:37 shows the reload
>>334258380
you can only put more bullets on the cylinder once upgrade the gun tho
>>334258641
>mfw he walks right into my next question
oh, right, so the people who do own guns there, own a bunch of the guns. to collect, to shoot, to enjoy, right?
how about dat lack of gun culture
>>334258545
>whats that? links to sources? dismissed!
Yeah lad, that's exactly what you did to the huffington post one.
>>334258605
It's a clip, used for loading a magazine without loading the bullets in one by one.
And don't try to understand the G11, it's an experimental german gun. An overdesigned nightmare.
>>334258673
...yeah. notice the guns dimensions dont change, and it stays the same weight. ergo, the radius required to fit those bullets in, dosent get bigger.
>>334258746
heh, funny. i didnt dismiss it, i actually argued against it, with points. dismissing means, to ignore entirely.
might wanna, brush up on ya english
>>334258641
>>334258646
~230,000 NZers have a gun license (source is 2006, so may have changed but unlikely to be much different.)
4.5mill NZers (was smaller in 2006, but not significantly so).
230,000 / 4.5mill
Just over 5% of the population owns a gun. My god, that gun culture is out of control!
>As in Australia, but unlike the US and Canada, gun laws usually gain the support of both major parties before they are passed. Guns are not currently a major political issue
>>334258718
>Shooting things
>Culture
I like how Americans have watered down the term "Culture" so much just so they can pretend they have it.
>>334258673
Yes, that's retarded. Also the bullet cases looked like they were exposed? Doubly retarded.
>>334254757
>The only one of those defined by "use" is hunting and you don't need a handgun for that.
oh boy imaginary definitions incoming
>>334258768
it still aligns
the cylinder size never gets larger
you can just fit more bullets
>>334255238
These people are living the dream.
>>334258718
>mfw he got so blown out by HIS OWN statistics he immediately abandons HIS OWN argument
Less than 5% of the population owns a gun. Those that own guns may own a couple of guns. This isn't surprising.
Have you ever even been to NZ? After my family got rid of ours I honestly don't think I know a single person with a gun. No-one talks about guns, there's no huge gun rallies, gun-rights are never discussed.
The only people who care about guns are hunters and some farmers, an incredibly small minority.
so how did the no gun allowed in yurop meme start? the only difference from murrica is that they don't give them out willy nilly and you got to prove you're not a deranged psychopath before getting the permit to buy one and most people don't feel the need to buy weapons to feel safe
>>334258830
You wanted to know whether or not warning shots exist as part of the police procedure in Europe. I provide you with a handful of sources. What is your response to these?
>top lel, the guys who argue agaisnt gun rights but carries guns themselves and their security gaurds because
>well, guns are fucking helpful? oh well
>as for the other two, nah, cant open them on my phone, sorry.
>again, youve confused, safer, as safe. right after he stated that its literally, a gamble.
Do you think that, using above "arguments", you've proven that warning shots are not part of the police procedure in Europe?
>>334258673
IT'S THE CYBORG FUTURE NIGGA
IT JUST WORKS
>>334254239
Why can't Americans protect themselves without guns?
In Hungary we have a ton of guns sitting around and people still handle things with fists.
I don't think guns are the problem, I think Americans are.
>>334258560
highly doubt they envisioned the M-16. the automatic weapons that were being developed at the time were mounted machine guns for use on battlefields. that being said i am in favor of the 2nd amendment.
>>334258914
It's possible, but you'd have to adjust the timing on the turn for every different cylinder.
Otherwise it's not going to align.
Like playing a short play record at normal rotation speed.
>>334258401
Best story arc
Its hardly possible to make a better one at this point.
>>334258718
>>334258476
>"that means of the 25% of the population that could own guns, 20% of them own guns."
>Cannot understand even the most basic of statistics
>Is baffled that the majority of people with gun licenses have guns.
>Reminder that this is the kind of person who argues for gun rights on the internet
Literally retarded.
>>334259081
that's the what the upgrade box is for
>/v/ is now tumblr
We've come full circle.
>>334258014
tl;dr
http://www.pctc gov ph/laws/basicFA.htm
>Each individual may hold under license a maximum of only one (1) low-powered rifle caliber 22 or shotgun not heavier than 12 gauge and one (1) pistol or revolver, not higher than caliber .38 except caliber .357 and caliber .22 center fire magnum and those which may later be classified by the Chief, Philippine National Police (C, PNP) as high-powered regardless of the type, make or caliber.
>>334255114
Actually, buying a hunting rifle wasn't that hard to do in USSR, they were sold in hunting and sporting shops relatively freely. The thing is, a hunting rifle won't help you if the government decides to get your ass.
>>334258483
Not who you've been arguing with, but firearms are considered lethal force, and are to be used only when lethal force is needed.
Reasons why firearms are not used non-lethally, despite bullet wounds not always actually being lethal:
1. Every bullet fired is a potential miss, ricochet, or lethal wound.
2. Semi-auto handguns are not very useful for precision shooting. It's possible to accomplish precise aim with one, of course, but it's nearly impossible in a stressful situation. Adrenaline makes your hands shake and causes you to lose fine motor control, and handgun accuracy is all about fine motor control.
3. The hands, arms, and shins, the places you could bet to hit without mortally wounding someone, are very small targets. Not only are the hands and arms small targets, but they are usually in front of the chest in a confrontation. And not only are the shins a small target, but the ground is usually behind them, and a bullet will ricochet in a straight path parallel to the ground if the ground is hard.
4. Even in a perfect situation, bullets shatter bones, cause tissue damage, and cause massive bleeding. Permanent nerve and muscle damage is common. What is the benefit to using a bullet in a nonlethal manner if they'd do so much damage?
>>334259029
lots of american men still settle their differences with an old fashioned brawl. but we have more people than most countries, therefore we have more crazy people than most countries. not to mention south american immigrant gangs jacking up our crime statistics.
>>334259181
/v/ is everything before it even becomes a thing. The whole internet imitates us because anonymity means people from here can freely steal ideas and post them elsewhere while looking like they made the idea. Memes from 4chan always trickle down to reddit, tumblr and twitter.
>>334259341
Does that money increase include insurance payments? My understanding is that most of the lower taxes Americans pays goes into their (healthcare especially) insurance
>>334258135
Even the lead singer of the band that played at the Bataclan said that the death toll would be far lower if people were allowed to carry guns themselves, instead of being at the non-existent mercy of islamist terrorists.
>>334257060
I thought Chile was 3rd world. Below even Mexico.
>>334259501
That's the funny bit
>>334257152
The census was two years ago and you're still likely 100 million off.
>>334253867
>black
>love my second amendment
>scared to open carry let alone carry my concealed pistol
>think about just giving up guns
>>334254118
Do you think some scrawny little bullied kid is going to break into a 2000 pound safe?
Maybe you should try teaching responsibility instead of fear.
>>334259762
black people who dress and act like white people might as well be white people, trust me
you can visibly see any white person drop their guard if you speak in clear sentences and wear a belt.
>anti gun people's faces when
>>334259501
Chile is probably the best place to live in Latin America right now.
>>334259873
now this is fucking triggering
>>334259762
Stop being black.
>>334259853
>you can visibly see any white person drop their guard if you speak in clear sentences and wear a belt
Trust me famm thats not enough for some.
>>334259936
Not a bad idea
>>334259762
Just don't do things like this and you'll be fine.
TF2 has some pretty dumb shit
>>334260013
#BanNiggersNotGuns
>>334260013
The black guy who was shot was casually swinging and carrying the airsoft(?) rifle around and talking on the phone.
Not acting like a retard is not enough.
>>334254747
And not a single source was cited.
I like pulling figures out my ass as well.
>>334259229
It would seem that, if the situation permits the use of a firearm, you're allowed to use enough force that may result with the suspects death.
However, in Poland firing warning shots (and even reaching for a gun and shouting "FREEZE OR I'll SHOOT") is considered a necessary step to be taken before an officer is cleared for firing at the suspect - unless the circumstances require an officer to defend himself or someone else from an attack that may result in a loss of life. Even then, the officer is required to use his weapon in a way that results in (and I feel like this is the key part) 'the least damage done' - prioritising non-lethal shots first.
Said warning shots are to be fired 'in a safe direction', not necessarily in the air - it's up for the police officer to decide how to fire his gun in a way that does not endanger others.
As for your other points, I realise that in a dangerous situation precise shots are difficult to pull off - which is why I brought up the one specific scenario where we can observe the whole procedure taking place - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtNgvH1Jh3A
I've already discussed how the officers misused their force, I might link it up again if needed.
As for your last point I believe that an officers job is to stop a criminal from conducting a crime, not kill the criminal per se. In extreme cases the death of a perpetrator is inevitable but reasonable expense and thought should be spent to minimize the occurrence of such cases.
After all, criminals are treated in hospitals and give them fair trail - which seems to be a point of pride among Americans, even when said criminal is guaranteed to receive a death sentence.
>>334260013
>lol what if I pretended to pull out a gun in front of a cop aiming at me
>>334260013
>act like you've got your hand on something in your waistband while ignoring cop's orders and advancing aggressively
>pull your hand out as fast as possible while pointing your fingers like a gun
>didn't have a weapon
>over COUGH SYRUP
FOR WHAT REASON
Remember that time shadow the hedgehog pulled a pump gauge on an assault rifle?
>>334260161
Are you talking about the webm? The man was unarmed and he got shot because he was making the cop think he was drawing on him. The victim was being a complete retard and it very well would have been enough to save his life if he wasn't acting like one.
>>334255870
66% of patients treated for gunshot wound to head, might just mean most gunshot wounds to the head cause death, so they're not treated.
>>334257810
Hunters isn't gun nuts.
Hunters is people roaming the countryside on insane adrenaline pumped trips, stalking prey, and maybe fire a few bullets or bucks.
>>334253090
>euros talking like there is no gun control in america and you can get a gun as easy as a candybar
Theres a shit ton of background checks and paper work you actually have to fill before legally buying a gun.
I don't have a problem with the system at all, I just think guns should be banned because i hate rednecks owning them.
even if they just banned them for the entire southern part of america, that would make my day.
>>334260518
>every shot is a shot to kill
Also, don't even try to say it's a hyperbole, people I've been talking to in this very thread believe it to be literally true.
>>334260013
>Advancing in a aggressive manner
>Try to "pull something out of his jacket", which could be anything, in a aggressive manner
>Get shot
what a fucking retard.
>>334260405
no that was another thing that webm was pure retardy a basically a suicide by cop kek
>>334260013
>Cop already pulled out his gun and constantly warned not to come close
>Black still advanced toward cop while hiding a hand behind his back
>b-but he did nothing wrong
Fucking pathetic, no one knows what he was hiding, if it's a fucking gun and the cop died then this wouldn't be on any web
>>334260242
In the U.S., most departments do have a rule about force escalation. Officers should not have their handguns out unless the suspect has shown a weapon or is suspected of having a weapon.
I'm not going to pretend it's impossible to fire a gun in a safe direction, but I will say that I belief the effect wouldn't be the same here. Gun ownership in Poland is the lowest in the entire EU. Americans are very aware of firearms, and I don't think what is effectively a loud noise would do anything.
As for the video, you have to realize it's just different in America. The title is misleading. It's a man who was running from the police, who turns around suddenly and puts his arms up. Not up in a disarming manner, but up as if he were going to fire a weapon. His arms were bent and pointed outwards from his chest toward the police.
It's tragic, and better training may have prevented the man's death. But you have to understand that for American police, someone suddenly turning around and pointing his arms at you can mean you're about to be fired upon. If you read the article in the description of the video, it claims that the police tried to use a taser and it failed. I imagine the chase began after that, which ended with the video we see.
I agree wholeheartedly that an officers job is not to be the executioner, but I also think the officers may have legitimately believed they were acting in self-defense.
>>334260681
Well, I understand the sentiment. Every shot fired, even with aiming could potentially be lethal. it blowing off a finger ain't really gonna kill you though.
>>334253090
>op makes a joke about whacky weapon
>autists start sperging about muh gun control
>>334260013
How is this in anyway helping them. Clearly aggressive man, reaching hand into back pocket and motioning out. Is the cop really meant to just watch and double check and wait til the guy potentially fires before doing anything?
>>334261051
>not enjoying target practice
>screaming about taking other people's rights away because it makes you feel uncomfortable
Truly autism at its full potential in this thread, anon
>>334260952
I get it - all the various circumstances and factors surrounding an arrest/detainment, I can understand that.
The problem is, I look at something that could be, somewhat poorly, explained as "cultural differences" and then I see people getting killed as a result of it. That's what I think isn't okay, the whole idea of something so immaterial resulting in someone's death.
>>334261182
The weirdest thing is that everyone outside of 4chan doesn't see how stupid this was. They just see a UNARMED BLACK MAN and WHITE COP and then they lose their minds.
>>334256773
Notice assault rifles are select fire. Huge difference between that and a semi automatic, you fucking pussy
>>334257304
Because schools are a gun-free zone, so it's the best place to pick easy targets.
>>334255870
>Getting shot in a foot or hand would certainly shatter most of the many bones there, and it would be an extremely painful experience
>>334258642
>something completely unrelated was changed so let's get rid of the 2nd amendment
>>334257304
Because 'murrica.
>>334256402
If niggers weren't a thing this would be all green. Niggers seriously account for like 70% of all the nonsense that goes on in America. Like 2/3rds of all murders are gang related and half the prison population is niggers. Fucking half. We have the largest prison population in the world and it's purely because of niggers.
>>334261535
I understand that it's hard to swallow. Our culture has been called savage, third-world, ect. and honestly it's hard to disagree when it comes to our stance on guns.
But, I like it. For all the bad that having guns so ingrained in our culture does, the fact that the people who enforce laws have to worry about self-defense, I believe that's important to the concept of freedom.
It's honestly crazy, that all the violence and suffering exists over the fear of tyranny. Even if there's no clear threat of tyranny anywhere on the horizon, and it's silly to think anyone would seek to enforce unjust laws in the 21st century. But we're a nation birthed from fighting tyranny, and we will not forget that tyranny looms. Tyranny sleeps as long as someone can fight it.
People dying over not being able to empathize with the police, that's the least of my concerns.
>>334258014
We have a designated ladyboy that fucks us in the ass so we can buy guns.
>>334259341
How are class divide and eletricity/oil usage bad things?
This shit is retarded.
>>334262079
Hey guys, surely if we buy assault rifles, we can beat the govt! Oh, we couldn't take down a single jet with what we're legally allowed to buy? What, a single tank could defeat all civilians in the USA? Damn, I forgot the 2nd amendment doesn't protect us from shit anymore.
>>334255974
It's like a fucking action movie, holy shit
>>334262564american detected
>>334262572
Did you even look at the fucking picture that was posted before typing out your retarded fucking post?
Your argument is like how children justify repealing the 2nd amendment. It's literally exactly what's in the fucking picture and you still said it like you're making a point, holy fuck.
>>334262572
If you have to launch a jet and fire a $70,000 dollar missile to take down someone because they have a rifle, that is an economic victory. You are also assuming the entire U.S. military would be a-okay with bombing disobedient American citizens. As well, you can't enforce anything without boots on the ground. Also, remember that time the U.S. military couldn't defeat goat farmers over nearly 10 years?
You are a fool who is oversimplifying an incredibly complicated matter.
>>334262265
>>334261535
Over 60% of gun related deaths in America are suicides. The "gun problem" in the US is vastly overblown by people with agendas to push.
>>334257794
yeah but we can drink
>>334258135
there is more people killed every year in us to gun related accident than this "attacks"
>>334262572
Dropping bombs on your own citizens? Good way to start an insurrection supplied by foreign governments.
Tanks can't raid homes, can't arrest people.
Drones? Useless. Again, dropping bombs on your own citizens is an enormous mistake.
What you're also forgetting is that you're assuming that members of the armed forces would unquestioningly side with the government.
They also have families.
>I'm sorry, Mr Drone Operator, your family was taken by rebels at 6am and they're being used as shields.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/31/1100-green-berets-petition-against-gun-control/
Those are Green Berets. They specialize in training poorly armed dirt farmers to fuck shit up. How much of the military do you think would attack their own brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, wives and children?
Besides, I'm reasonably certain that they swear to defend the constitution and country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. A government that is dropping 1000lb bombs on some bastard out in rural Idaho or something is going to be regarded as an enemy in a hurry.
>>334263327
Don't forget
>bombing the people who literally fund you
>>334255238
sauce me you faggot
>>334263403
How quickly do you think America would become bankrupt as a nation if the government started doing nonsense like what >>334262572 is describing? Don't forget, pretty much every 1st world government would most likely refuse giving any sort of loans to the American government during this hypothetical fiasco.
This is also completely ignoring the fact that pretty much every American soldier would side with the populace against the government.
>>334263403
Yeah, that too. Nothing the citizenry like more than paying taxes to the people killing their friends, family and neighbors then making them pay for the rebuilding of roads, hospitals etc. Totally not going to turn even more people against you.
>>334262572
>He thinks owning weapons privately is about beating the gov't
Any state that doesn't allow it's citizens to own weapons is almost always a shithole dictatorship m8.
So, how about video games, huh? That new Dark Souls is pretty cool. Hope they patch it soon so everybody can enjoy it.
>>334263928
>Hope they patch it soon so everybody can enjoy it.
Agreed. I can play it now, with around 30-50 fps, but it's obvious that there is something wrong with the coding in the game, because the framerate stutter is ridiculous in some parts.
>>334256798
Not only you can, but you should.
>>334262234
>if you remove the poor people then there wouldn't be as much crime
No fucking shit you moron, that's why we need to apply socialist policies to properly support people instead of continuing our reckless capitalist state that clearly isn't working
>>334253669
The fuck is a check up? Do euros have to provide preventative care for their guns to make sure they don't get sick?
"Lesten Stalker, when you have expoosed ammo like Ivan you can easily see how many of shootings you have left"
>What I read
>This thread
>What I expected
>We trigger /k/
>What I got
>We trigger /pol/
>2016
>liberals are still this flustered they can't take our funs
>>334264847
I didn't say poor people. I was very specific and particular with my wording. I said niggers and I said that for a reason: poor whites don't commit nearly as many crimes as poor blacks. Every stupid fucking Eurolander nation likes to pat themselves on the back when they compare themselves to America, completely forgetting that they don't have a 12% portion of their populations who do nothing but chimp out, kill people, and destroy things.
There is no demographic in America that causes more mayhem than niggers and anyone who says otherwise has not only never had the misfortune of being near them for extended periods of time, but has never looked at any set of statistics.
Sure is nice here.
>>334265575
Black people are systematically oppressed. The "statistics" are bullshit because racist policies result in disproportionally more black persecution.
FACTS:
If a black person and a white person each commit a crime, the black person is more likely to be arrested. This is due in part to the fact that black people are more heavily policed.
When black people are arrested for a crime, they are convicted more often than white people arrested for the same crime.
When black people are convicted of a crime, they are more likely to be sentenced to incarceration compared to whites convicted of the same crime.
These all build on each other and result in a disproportionally high Black prison population. Of course, a racist moron like you wouldn't ever accept something like this.
>>334265559
Not knowing anything about guns (other than from video games), means that I always see guns with wood on them as "old" or "low-level".
I guess it stems from Jagged Alliance where the .38 Special was the dinky beginner pistol and the Colt 1911 was more high-end.
>>334265819
>Some of it's in percent and some of it's not
Now THAT is triggering
>>334253234
First post and it's already triggering. You win
>>334265559
that broomhandle hnnnnnnnng
>>334253672
>retarted
Seems like you would be an expert on all things retarded.
>>334265974
It's usually better not to use percentages higher than 100.
/k/ is a shit board for legit psychopaths that has never produced a single meme. They should all use their favorite death sticks on themselves.
>>334254118
And how many schools have gotten shot up in relation to total gun violence statistics or guns in the general population? Statistically insignificant
>>334265935
Those are cute statements but they're not facts, they're just things you said. They're cheap rationalizations of the actual facts which can be backed up by statistics (which you so conveniently handwave with IT'S RACIST), which is that niggers commit far more crime per capita than any other fucking demographic in the US by a mile.
>>334265819
This, again >>334262234
I don't know what dumbass website it is but it's obviously using broad, averaged statistics to source it's data, which do not take into account demographic or location. If you live in some nice white town or city it's not the fucking wild wild west, with a dozen murders occurring every day, gang activity running rampant, and cops having to cart away dozens and dozens of people every goddamn day to jail.
Now of course, the story is very different if you go to someplace that's nigger-central, like inner city Detroit. If half the people you see walking down the street at any time are niggers you've fucked up.
>>334256325
Yeah by the police dumbass.
>>334256770
what the fuck
>>334254747
you are very very dim
>tfw live in Pennsyltucky and there's nowhere go shoot
>tfw all the wooded areas have no trespassing signs and cops everywhere
>tfw public ranges only allow 3 rounds in your magazine at any time and cost $35 a year to be able to use
>tfw goddamned boomer fudds everywhere who own land to shoot on are okay with this
I just want a space where I can magdump my ak, is this so fucking much to ask?
>>334266489
Aside from some minor boards, the world would be much better if the whole 4chan fanbase just offed themselves.
>>334254550
American police are horribly trained. They're basically fat wannabe military men.
>>334266818
I think I've seen this before. I've at least seen this retarded 'stance' or whatever it is a long time ago in some comic. Someone mentioned that the artist insisted this was accurate and defended it. It doesn't make any sense, only someone who's never seen a rifle before would think this is how it's meant to be used.
>>334256770
whats wrong with this.
>>334254747
cars are more common, numerous, and useful than guns. I can go a year without seeing a gun and drive 50K+ miles, passing hundreds of thousands of other drivers and hazards etc.
each gun is responsible for a larger share of the overall harm, which itself larger per unit than cars - they should be regulated at least as if not more heavily than cars.
>>334254417
what a little shitstain nigger i would of stopped the filming and told everyone in the village that all the charity i was going to give you will now be given to the shitstain village down the road instead of you
because of little jamal here, everyone come and thank jamal for not having any food this year
then leave and watch from the distance as villagers cut up jamal and serve him for dinner
>>334267093
sheeeeit I found it
>>334266818
>>334267093
It's from this comic which became a Japanese meme
>>334265935
>FACTS:
>list of speculation
You went to one of those underprivileged nigger schools didn't you
>>334267267
>>334267285
Sniper mind
Also, some real talent from Japanese Splatoon Miiverse.
>>334267171
>they should be regulated at least as if not more heavily than cars.
They're already regulated pretty heavily. Define exactly how they should be regulated and how this regulation would help lower crime.
>>334266489
#Takbir
>>334254550
Because basic training is shoot for center mass. if a cop has their weapon drawn, it's as a last resort. At least over here in Australia.
Also, with the aim for the legs line everyone goes on about; if you know the physics behind it, there's not much stopping power in a handgun. It's not like Hollywood or a Video game.
>>334254618
Half right, Police are trained so that if they use their weapon, it's a kill shot. As they have resources to diffuse the situation before it gets to that stage. With a handgun unless you hit a vital organ or major artery it's not that dangerous.
Here's a medical lecture on gunshot wounds caused by handguns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwPtP-KDNk
>Americans seriously believe in a geographically spread out, culturally divided, disorganised civilian militia somehow standing up to the most powerful military to have ever existed
>>334265621
oh bby it's too late for quality posts now
>>334253669
This had nothing to do with video games at all.
>>334259049
People could make bombs and cannons, fuck off.
>>334262572
>boy we sure showed them Iraqis in such a quick time how pipe guns stand no chance against a REAL military :^)
>>334254618
found the brainwashed retard
according to the law you are wrong
according to probability you are wrong
according to basic human anatomy you are wrong
every shot is a shot to kill when everyone agrees that saying things like "every shot is a shot to kill" will bring less retribution to their fellow pro gun advocates who could have easily NOT ended someones life in a situation
but no dont even bother to not kill someone thats basically just against the rules. SHOOT TO KILL EVERYTIME OR YOU ARENT AN AMERICAN
you realize how deep you are into the jesus loving gun toting bandwagon dont you?
>>334267620
Already been discussed. >>334262572
Everyone who thinks like you is a fucking brain dead retard that can't make a point to save your life unless it's some made up fantasy-land hypothetical situation where the American government just starts nuking it's own citizens.
>>334267756
Actually you do need to shoot to kill because if you dont shekelstein and goldberg will come and sue you for everything you're worth.
We had a dude get the shit sued out of him successfully after some piece of trash broke into his house, fell onto a knife that was laying on a table, and he ran away and lived.
>>334267756
It's not up to me in a self-defense situation to be concerned for the life of the person who is threatening or attacking me. When you do something like that you are immediately relieved of all your rights, including the right to life. My only concern is the safety of myself or loved ones.
>you realize how deep you are into the jesus loving gun toting bandwagon dont you?
You realize you aren't making any point whatsoever?
>>334267756
see >>334259229
and stop being retarded over anon's poor choice of words
>>334254041
>>334267463
other quoted post pic related
that would be a good start. I'd also support toolmarking gun barrels with a unique ID which is kept in an encrypted database alongside the registration.
Police could then ask for warrants to the watermarks of guns owned by a suspect. If the request is reasonable, the records are unsealed and the watermark is compared to the objective bullet.
might be too far for americans, but i feel it strikes a reasonable balance between being able to get a gun for legitimate self defence / sport / militia (??) reasons, you are just responsible for where the bullets end up.
>>334267756
Think harder about why you wouldn't want people using firearms without lethal intent you smug idiot.
>>334267714
A couple of weirdos and experts, yeah. Its like saying everyone can make a plane today because the Wright Brothers managed it.
>>334254041
This picture is comparing driving a car with owning a gun.
Which is stupid, because you should compare owning a car and owning a gun, or driving a car and carrying a gun. Concealed carry is almost that regulated.
>>334268110
Bullets are usually deformed on impact, stop watching CSI
>>334267756
People get hit in non-vital areas and die from it all the fucking time you retard. Real life isn't movies, the human body is fragile.
>>334266943
>$35 a year to be able to use
How fucking poor are you?
>>334254068
Toy. Toy gun. For kids. Like with the orange thing on the front? Not to mention if it had been a grown white man with a rifle he would've gotten a solid 5 minutes of "SIR! LOWER YOUR WEAPON OR WE WILL CONSIDER TASING YOU"
>>334259049
There were rifles capable of firing 5-10 balls in a short period of time, as well as pistols that could sling a similar amount of lead. The founding fathers allowed people to own cannons.
>>334253090
>came in this thread expecting WEBMs of games with shitty/good reloading and a variety of guns andfun
>its a /pol/ thread
You guys are fucking faggots
>>334256886
I would assume it's because that light green is reflective.
>>334268110
I wouldn't be against having to take a training course to get certification to buy them, because I'm a strong proponent of gun safety, but this still wouldn't do much to cut down on crime. The vast majority of guns that are bought legally (99.995% iirc, if i can find the source ill provide it) are never used against others at all, and this includes accidents, self defense, and murder. I have a strong feeling legislation like this would make grabbers feel good for a year or two, and then once the next mass shooting happens, it's on to the next piece of invasive but useless legislation. Literally nothing is ever enough for them. And dont even bring up the slippery slope fallacy, that argument stops applying after almost an entire century of anti gunners proving that they're never satisfied.
>>334268561
The grown white man with the rifle wouldn't be pointing it at cops.
>>334263924
>>He thinks owning weapons privately is about beating the gov't
that's the whole point of the 2nd everyone keeps clinging on just to not admit whatever else reason they need guns for
>>334268561
Hey faggot, here's the toy gun the kid was carrying.
And yes, police tend to respond differently when a gun is pointed at them vs. when a gun is carried around them.
>>334268653
Never understood why slippery slope was a fallacy, it's how every government in the world operates and has ever operated.
>>334267874
>Believing American exceptionalism
>Believing that Americans are somehow immune to violent and controlling regimes that have existed on literally every continent for thousands of years
Solider worship is pathetic.
>>334268602
Welcome to /v/, that's more than half the threads these days. The mods don't come down hard enough on this garbage.
>>334268781
What the fuck are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything that's been said?
>>334268781
>somehow immune
that "somehow" is called the second amendment. it doesn't grant immunity, it grants a fighting chance.
>>334253234
You mean a barrel magazine right?
>thread about shitty vidya guns
>turns into politics thread
Evrytim
>>334253521
sauce on pic
>>334268602
>>334268782
>>334268939
>So making guns accessible in the first place is bad enough, but why are americans against regular check-ups? What bad could possibly come of the police picking up a shotgun some hillbilly left on the veranda?
The first post that starts this shit is some whiny liberal retard asking for big government to invade people's homes and privacy because "guns r sooo bad"
>>334268842
If Americans actually used the second amendment for it's actual stated purpose there would have been armed revolution decades ago.
All it means now is "the right for rednecks to shoot guns at old cars".
>>334268475
fine then chemically watermark the propellant to a batch number and require a 'Gun Card' when buying guns or ammo. or just keep killing eachother; i'm somewhere else so i don't mind
you can't legislate against spree shooters unfortunately.
>>334262572
You complete silly nigger.
If the population in my country, Brazil, had guns, we would have totally destroyed our government in the past weeks.
Actually, even without guns, they invaded Brasilia, you fucking idiot.
>>334269081
Why don't you also get analpained over things like fire safety regulations and mandatory car insurance? Its all the same bullshit of the government forcing itself into your house and property, right?
>>334268561
>Like with the orange thing on the front?
Aren't those things banned from most countries because they can be mistaked by a real gun easily in the first place?
>>334269081
>liberal
>big government
Why are Americans so fucking retarded?
>>334268781
Do you really believe that soldiers are going to bomb their own citizens? Or that other governments won't use the opportunity to fuk US shit up? Or did you forget that they'd be killing the people who found them and destroying the infrastructure that gives them money? All that ignoring how US military got fucked by many militias in the middle east during 10 years.
>>334262572
>he doesn't know about Tom
Even the government knows they'd lose eventually.
>>334255086
>a-am I being progressive yet guys?
>>334269250
>Do you really believe that soldiers are going to bomb their own citizens?
Why bomb them when you already have concentration camps?
>>334253234
>drum clip
>supposed to be a machine gun
Holy fucking shit m9, was this b8?
>>334268770
Not all slippery slopes are fallacies; slippery slope is just a name for a type of argument. Only when the causal chain of events has not been established is it a slippery slope /fallacy/.
>>334265935
>tfw you realize this isn't ironic
When did everything go so wrong?
>>334269249
The words "liberal" and "leftist" became synonymous at some point, and nobody is going to argue that the leftards are in favor of big government.
>>334269210
Those things aren't rights protected by an amendment you fuckin moron. And no one argues that some government mook should be able to break into my car to make sure my insurance is up to date or whatever the fuck.
>>334269249
Sorry, I guess I should've said socialist
>>334253669
>regular check ups
>>334269454
>Those things aren't rights protected by an amendment you fuckin moron.
So you're entire argument is that there isn't a rule against it? Americans really are brainwashed goyim.
>>334253669
>penis inspection day
>black teenager takes pellet gun out of packaging inside store
>starts waving it around, pointing it at people
>wanders around store for an hour doing this
>police respond to calls of someone waving around a gun
>nignog gets shot
Open and shut case.
>>334269251
>Someone writes enough about an unsourced story with no proof that blatantly appeals to 4chan, it must be true!
>>334269606
no no no because you forgot he was black and that is very important and relevant somehow and changes everything
>>334269081
That's because it's an ezbait oven of a topic, and /v/'s pretty retarded.
Bunch of slack jawed faggots around here.
>>334268996
Glock 17 I think
>>334260121
This is an actual thing irl though.
2nd Amendment is pretty cool. Guns are cool and gun. That is all.
>>334255065
Why do you think that policing cars has to come at the expense of policing guns? Both can be done and more lives can be saved.
>>334269990
>more lives can be saved
Unsubstantiated. Not that it would matter anyway.
>>334270052
As a gun owning straight white male this gun pleases me to no end. I enjoy the VHS SMG.
Thank god I don't have to fill my life with fantasies about civil war and shooting niggers.
>this triggers Australians
>>334270302
Same here. I just love guns.
>>334269926
Thanks desu.
>>334269706
>thinks Russia isn't going to start redrawing the borders as soon as there's a civil war
>thinks the rest of the world will sit idly by while the US government murders it's own people
>thinks the majority of the armed forces and intelligence agencies won't defect or become moles
The point is there's more to war than who has the bigger guns. Look at the cluster fuck that was Afghanistan. Dirt poor farmers with antique rifles. ten years. TEN YEARS.
>>334269170
>or just keep killing each other
4 people out of every 100,000
IT'S LIKE THE WILD WEST OUT HERE
also there's 11 states with a murder rate under 2 per 100,000, but fuck them right?
>>334270406
I unironically want an Adler. I think they look fun.
>>334270716
Samesies. But not for over a grand.
>>334269919
>players choice edition
>>334270745
Damn, that's an expensive shotgun. Didn't know they were that much.
>>334270704
>also there's 11 states with a murder rate under 2 per 100,000, but fuck them right?
Of course, anon.
Why would people back up their opinions with empirical evidence when they can simply remain ignorant and MAKE SHIT UP?
>he doesn't own at least a shotgun
Whats your excuse, /v/?
>>334271009
I have no interest killing people.
>>334267141
the whole barrel is bouncing back
>>334271134
how does it feel to live in fear of an inanimate object?
>>334271009
Too lazy to get licensed.
>>334271009
Because the laws in this state is shit
Eventually will get one though for skeet or hunting or stuff
>>334271009
No money, no time.
>>334271964
>I can't afford $150
>>334267093
>>334267267
>>334267285
Fun fact: the manga's author (a diminutive Japanese woman) later purchased an airsoft model and took photos of herself trying out various stances with it. She ultimately agreed with the criticism. Was hella cute too.
The more you know.
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