This image is correct. MMO healers have a way bigger ego than they should.
>le healers are sluts xD
I hate that shitty meme
Healers just want a loyal husband
Healers are the bass players of MMOs
Healing is actually the only role that gets more fun with a bad group.
>>334183385
This image seems different every time I see it.
What's the point of redrawing it every time this subject is brought up?
>>334183385
Anon, no-one gives a fuck that you keep updating the image. The original is fine, stop George Lucasing this shit.
>>334183858
I imagine it must be like a teacher in a special needs children school, spending every living second trying to keep the little shits from accidentaly kill themselves.
>>334183916
It will be redrawn until someone picks up the forced meme and starts badly MS painting it like the "I want to fuck that x" dude
Does anyone have the Healer getting buttfucked?
I just want to fap
I don't have a big ego
>I also don't have anyone to heal
actual healers
>>334184234
>i dont have a big ego
>has to denounce that youre different
Nah son
>>334183385
But thats not me. I may not be a sissy bitchboy memer, but I'm also not some self-important jackass. I consider myself competent but I don't assume I'm the center of the world and I try my best to salvage the situation even when someone fucks up massively.
>>334183385
>having an issue with the DPS pulling trash
>Not being able to keep up with trash
no, you're just a garbage healer.
>>334184103
It's like that but some healers are egomaniacal children that do nothing but bitch about filling their role in a team
Then there's the full retard healers that think they're pew pew dps
>always missing the third kind of healers, who are always the biggest of bros
If your healer is a jaded stifffuck or a cocksleeve, you're not progressing.
Nothing like the healers that go "Oh shit, fuck, fuck fuck fuck fuck," during burst damage phases and manage to keep everyone on top while having good humor about it.I'm the DPS who's output could be a lot better, but is overall just 'ok' while always being the last to die in a wipe.
>>334184537
Oh, sorry.
>>334183385
Heals and tanks are the only real roles that mean anything you can get by with retarded dps.
That said they also attract self important fucks who will hissy fit at the drop of a hat.
someone post it
>>334183385
>not the edit
>>334184916
A lot of the self important fucks are also converted from dps and basically whine the entire time about having to be x class
>>334184924
This
>priest kicks me because i dont click on his stupid well thing
>carrying group and steamrolling the dungeon
FUCK YOOOU
>>334184789
I was that healer. We did a large amount of progression up until the end of Pandaria with 2-3 groups. Only regret is never killing Heroic Ragnaros.
>ITT butthurt dps who think they are special and not immediately replaceable
>>334185137
>Healer taking time from sucking dick to suck at making bait.
Pottery
>>334185205
>This is what tankfags actually believe
Never knew you guys had time to talk from taking an ass fucking from the boss.
>>334185137
A good, intelligent DPS is a pearl you find in a sea of shit. The kind that toss that needed spell to CC some unruly add and unfuck a situation instead of just tunnelling the dps meter
>>334183385
>>334183970
the more detailed that picture, the more it loses its charm
>>334185309
You're the faggot that saved it. ;)
>>334183385
The bottom half is pretty much anyone who has played healer for a long time
>>334185309
Oh thank goodness I can fap now.
>>334185406
It's alright because we don't know if it's a dude or not. New updated version when?
>>334185309
now post the other one.
>>334185137
>stating the obvious
At this point, I don't know if it's false flagging or real.
So, waht game has the best healers? Every game i play there are 3 types of them:
1. Single target healer
2. AoE healer
3. Mediocre healing ability, but good shields/buffs healer
>>334185131
It's sad how easily you can tell who in these threads actually raided or not just by how they claim their healers acted.I'm sad I never got to experience Heroic Sha of Fear when it was current and blind
>Tank a dungeon as DPS
>Complete it
>No commendations
>>334185607
What other one?
>>334183385
>>334183385
Maybe you shouldn't be bad and stand in the fire like some kind of fucking retarded monkey slapping his keyboard.
Having to sit in the back and watch some of these shitstain players fuck up and vault themselves into deathtraps over and over and somehow have the balls to think it wasn't their fault they died is fucking ludicrous. Not all players are bad but the ones who are think their healer is at fault more often than not in groups when they are the chump dying every god damn pull. Talking about pulling burst dps before the tank establishes aggro, standing in effects they shouldn't, getting punted into the fucking terrain and dying, falling off the side because they can't fucking circle around the mob properly, LITERALLY RUNNING AWAY FROM THE HEALER WHEN THEY ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THEIR INCOMPETENCE (who the fuck does that you cum chugging fuckfaces). And it's 10/10 times the fucking dps who can't be assed to learn how to play and not get aggro.
10/10 bait, I hope you get throatfucked by a gorilla you stupid fuck.
>>334185309
now post the "what /v/ thinks healers are" one
>>334185954
There's a redraw of the new one.
Healers
>pathetic skill
>average intelligence
Tanks
>average skill
>bad intelligence
DPS
>high skill
>ultimate intelligence
>DPS solo boss
>Healer and tank whining about needing help or something.
God why are there even healers or tanks anyway? They are just too noob to play DPS so they do the next best thing.
Only good players choose DPS, because it's the only class you need.
>>334185715
Single target is best.
>>334183970
>Tank, I will not go by your ridiculous pace. Slow down or die.
More like "I'm gonna make the entire group suffer because I can't be arsed doing this quickly".
>>334186030
>DPS pulling
The tank isn't doing his job if that happens to the point where the healer's overwhelmed.
>>334186052
There is? Someone please post it.
>>334186340
You can find it by reverse searching the OP but
>no source
>ifunny
>>334186232
More like, the numerical values of my healing abilities cannot overtake the amount of damage you will be taking if you continue to pull packs of shit
>>334183385
Is there anything more satisfying than going into wow LFR as dps, and mass pulling everything? Just thinking about doing LFR Highmaul, getting to the Imperator room, and pulling the entire room with boss brings a huge smile across my face.
>>334186030
Dps are more often than not the reason the party fails
>Not enough dps
>Too much dps stealing aggro
>retardedly imaginative deaths
Truely the worst players in any MMO good thing they are easily replaceable
>>334186309
Happens more often than you think when the dps keeps pulling shit on accident. Doing stuff like volley(pre-cata) or multi-shot and pulling more mobs than intended. Some tanks are really good and can salvage, but the dps shouldn't be making such bad pulls and then not let the tank establish aggro. Normally it's something retarded like pulling and then immediately trying to burst down one of the adds without focus targeting the main mob the tank has aggro built up on. Or you know just straight up walking into mobs that path or some other retarded thing.
>>334186053
www
>>334186232
>Has never heard of mana
>Has no concept of regeneration of mana
You must be a rogue or other assassin character with some bullshit named like xXnarutardXx
>>334186432
>redraw it
>still censored
Why?
>>334183385
Most healers I've met have been somewhere between. Typically closer to "actual" healers, but not quite so egotistical.
Although the ones that do get that ego are well deserved to, as healers ain't exactly a dime a dozen and the group's success often depends on the healer having to make split second decisions on whether the retard, actual dime-a-dozen DPS gets healed despite standing in highly choreographed flame DoT attack, or the tank drawing all primary damage away from everyone else doing their job. A group can survive without a DPS. It cannot survive without a tank.
>>334186513
I stopped playing in WoD, but fucking around in LFR has always been fun
LFR Garalon (third boss of Heart of Fear) was always my favorite as a healer, because groups already wiped there to begin with, and because of the mechanics a single healer could stay alive even if the entire group was dead
>mfw everyone is dead but me and I'm just running around healing myself until Garalon enrages
>entire group losing their shit threatening to report me
>>334186513
So you're basically the guy that queues in to the easiest lfr while having shit gear, does mediocre dps but it miles ahead of the next retard. You know people on their alts are basically laughing at you since you think you're hot shit?
>>334186432
I didn't find it
>>334186232
>I have no idea what Mana is or how it works
>>334184789
It's only with good groups that a healer can pull out clutch saves like that by putting effort in. If someone on your group is a fucking idiot, then the healer's mana is probably constrained as fuck and they're gonna have to start making judgment calls.
Not much of a point on being a MMO healer since you're almost always trying to herd retards and when you don't the team doesn't need you anyway.
FPS healers are way more fun, you can easily drag the team as long as they aren't drooling idiots.
>>334183730
Bass can be pretty badass.
>>334187167
where did the op even come from?
>>334187213
This is what disc priest healing felt like.
>>334187259
thrallisthezodiackiller.tumblr.com
Is the original source.
No idea who made the new one or the redraws.
>>334186980
I got blindsided by his enrage once. Played a rogue, so basically all the damage he does is piss tiny, and thought I could feint my way out of his slam.
Anyways I hope disc feels better in Legion. I don't have an alpha account but I heard good things.
>>334186030
If the only dead guy is DPS it's pretty sure that everyone in the party want you dead and off the party.
>>334186053
fuck off
>>334183385
>MMO anime
What?
>>334183385
>>334186584
It's usually the kids with a huge ego that want to be #1 so they tunnel vision on stuff and get themselves or others killed. I've played a priest since vanilla and on a lot of other mmo's and it always feels like the dps being bad. Sometimes you get a bad tank but that's so few and far between since tanks need to understand boss and mob mechanics for raids and essentially never fuck up or the raid wipes.
As a healer, tanks are usually bros but they have to pay attention to the boss or mobs so they don't see the dumb shit happening, healers get real cynical because they see the worst in the party, dps can be either a fucking god send pulling majority dps without aggro or the bane of your life and just make you wish you had the power to chop someone in the throat through tcp/ip.
>>334187693
.hack
SAO
Log Horizon
etc
>>334184761
>not maximizing dps while keeping everyone alive
Your opinions are garbage, unsub from whatever mmos you're playing and kill yourself
>>334183970
The bottom one is better for dicking though.
The more they act like little shits the more satisfying it is to mindbreak them.
>>334187693
You don't know?
They were all the rage last year.
>>334183385
>Be pally
>laugh at the priest who can't really do anything since I can keep healing myself
If you won't cooperate, you can just fuck off
>>334186998
i dont care nigger, LFR is more fun when shit is out of control.
>>334187972
Still kinda are, they're just not too much about MMO's. Grimgar for example.
>>334183970
>original
>>334185309
This is the original.
>Be FPS tank
>Taking shots like crazy but it's okay, medic knows to stay back and heal
>DPS rushes for no fucking reason
>Gets his shit pushed in
>Healer runs into the middle of the line of fire to rez him
>Second DPS and I provide covering fire but it won't cut it
>Healer is dead
>JUST.dll
>Try to get to checkpoint with second DPS
>Finally push through enemies and to the checkpoint
>Healer and DPS left
>>334184981
wow dude
>>334183385
Its not about ego OP some people are just annoying as hell to babysit. Bad Tanks and suicidal DPS are irritating
>>334183491
Bara Tanks are the best husbanos
>>334184103
actually thats pretty spot on, when I play Healer its easy to notice when the party is doing stupid shit. Fuck Rogues that pull and Hunters who are so confident their pets can be the main tank
>>334186030
>LITERALLY RUNNING AWAY FROM THE HEALER WHEN THEY ARE DYING BECAUSE OF THEIR INCOMPETENCE
I love when they do this, I wish I knew what they are thinking-
>>334184789
Being the last to die in a raid means that you're bottom on the threat-table, which for a good bit of the way also means you're the WORST DPS.
You forgot about that. Scrub.
>>334184672
Anon fuck you everyone knows a Rogue cant survive Heroic/Raid trash damage.
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>tfw you purposely dont heal the guy who obviously is from /v/
>bully him till he yells and leaves the group
My greatest mmo memory.
>>334183730
so they're manly and sound swole as fuck?
>>334188575
Overnuking is retarded and it doesn't matter if you beat everyone's DPS by a large margin when you're one of the first corpses in the first minute of the fight.
Knowing when to manage and prioritize DPS and survival is the difference between a Normal shitter and a Heroic/Mythic progression runner.
Pro fucking tip: DPS isn't as super fucking vital as people think when first progressing and learning mechanics. Better to wipe to the enrage timer the first few tries while learning the mechanics than try to cheese the fight and wipe every time because someone wanted to turret to squeeze that last ~5k DPS thinking it would make all the world of difference.It never does in a wipe
>>334185715
>>334185309
Can I be a competent healer during a dungeon and a slut in town? I just want big chubby panda cock
>>334187167
Those nets, man. Readjusting dick.
>>334185715
Man Penance Shields and Holy Nova Shields were amazing when the update in BC was first added...
>>334186053
I think your brain had a moment of oxygen deprivation when you typed out that post, friend.
>>334183970
>I need a healer
I could solo this instance anyway.
>>334183385
>MMO
Trash
>>334188912
Fluff-wise the kannagi sound like the most interesting healer class but shielding is so boring
>rolled holy pala because I wanted to do something else than DPS
>I only complained when tanks pull when I'm still out of mana
I just like variety, that doesn't mean I'm a heal slut ;_;
>>334188542
About how great it feels to get gangbanged by the mob and boss.
>>334186053
Healers
>Average skill
>High intelligence
Tanks
>High skill
>Average intelligence
DPS
>Low skill
>Low intelligence
Ew, he looks more like a girl now.
What did you do?
>>334185309
Need doujins with this setup
>>334189203
accurate
>>334185715
I'm a personal fan of DPS healers
I'm not sure if any other games did it, but for a while in Cata you could pretty viably heal with the atonement talent and casting smite
>>334186053
DPS are so uncool. Now Tanks I can respect
>>334189203
Looks about right but needs one little edit.
Healers
>Average skill
>High intelligence
>Angry
Tanks
>High skill
>Average intelligence
>Bros
DPS
>Low skill
>Low intelligence
>Ate lead paint as a child
On second thought why doesn't /v/ play more healers. You are all a bunch of angry salty fucks anyhow.
>>334186120
Healers are useless!
>Does a raid with multiple healers who keep him alive
No anon you are a tool
>>334186053
Tanks
>pretty much control the fight and where the boss is
Healers
>must be contantly aware of all players in raid and where boss is swinging his big dick
DPS
>right click boss
>>334186232
Must be nice having Energy instead of mana you scrub
>>334189203
>tanking
>any more complicated than sunder spam, aoe spam, or just plain taunt-swapping
>occasionally you have to move the boss too!!!!!
Healers require the most "skill" in that the worse you are at it, the more you need to learn to not fucking panic and control yourself from burning your resources so the burst phase doesn't fuck you in the ass, and the better you are at it the more of a boring fucking chore it becomes even when DPS or the tank decides to go full retard. You also have to do your own fair share of DPS.
DPS requiring "skill" is solely because people think you need super fucking complexity and a fucking 2 minute long rotation or "priority system :^)" that you have to adhere to SUPER TIGHT to do top damage, and if you don't you're immediately thrown to the fucking wind for someone who will lack the balls to do what they like unless it's serious progression.
>tfw you enjoy healing/supporting
>tfw you try to be nice
>thank everyone for the group
>keep everyone alive
>every other new MMO that comes out hates healers, remove healers! Healers make game bad and unfun
>it turns into a boring DPS race because developers can't make any punishing mechanics worth piss without healing or force people to just chug potions instead
>I'm bored to tears because I can't heal a group or even support them because the same people who hate healing hate crowd control, or buffing and debuffing
>can only return to older MMOs that have gone south or stale with no players or dumb dev decisions
>>334189203
This, and I primarily play DPS
I just like seeing my character deal big numbers
>>334189157
Or is it?
Mechanically speaking, in an actual game I feel it'd go something like this:
>redirecting damage from one target to a new target (typically from the healer to an available tank)
>needing to know when the percentage value barriers are needed to reduce strain over time and when a static value barrier is needed to prevent a 1-shot from a static-value or percentage-health attack
>putting damage mirrors on party members that won't be taking too much damage, but the extra boost of damage output based on what little damage input there is would be appreciated
>in clutch situation where tank may actually die and all other options are null, redirecting damage from tank to more expendable party member with damage mirror to inflict a huge chunk of damage back at the enemy, preferably a member that can either self-resurrect with limited use or won't be too much of a hassle to recover when there's a little breathing room
>>334183385
MMO Healers sacrifice THEIR time and THEIR fun so you could play the game
You better be fucking grateful
>bad tank
wipe
>bad healer
wipe
>bad DPS
wipe
I don't understand why you're all bitching about other roles. Everyone is essential in a raid, but I guess people who only play LFR wouldn't know about that.
>>334185715
Warhammer Online - battle cleric
>>334189641
>tfw you like healing and you like the guild but they are so nice that you don't know if they think you are a special needs guy
>>334185309
kek
>>334187867
I agree Tanks are bros and good tanks dont have time to see the stupid shit us healers deal with
>>334189203
>>334189464
Agreed.
I mean, let's imagine a typical scenario of putting together a dungeon party in the average MMO.
The Tank knows his job and no problems there
The Healer might be average, might be good, but they'll get the job done
The DPS is 95% a chucklefuck who chose his class because the character art was cool and he saw a ganking montage done with it. You can't expect anything out of them.
>>334189732
The class is described as using shields that nullify the damage, it makes me think of discipline priests from wow.
Playing it like you say would be nice, like combining different forms of shields and other damage reducing effects.
>thief class
>cant steal from other players
>>334185309
I can fap to this. The fact that we don't know if it's a guy or girl makes it really hot. I wish there was more like this where someone looks really feminine, but we really don't know if it's a guy or not. I'm not gay or anything like that, but it's the chance that it could be a girl is what makes this image really hot.
>Run dungeon as healslut
>Tank is retarded, thinks he's dps
>Magic dps is retarded, thinks he's a tank
>Other DPS is a boss
>Not my first rodeo.png
>Victory achieved while tank and dumbass are drooling n a corner
>3 commendations.
>>334187938
You sound like those cunt Shadow Priest who say they can heal
>>334188912
>tachi means long sword
>not clueless
kek
k
>>334189864
At least you have a guild still.
Mine break up due to dumb drama shit that never should happen and it all crumbles around me.
I've given up honestly and try playing stuff with my friends but I always run into the no-healing MMOs that bore me to tears.
>healing in every mmo in the last 6 years has been incredibly easy with no thought being required to heal
>can't enjoy healing anymore because it's just hitting a few buttons over and over again with no real regard to procs or your mana bar unless all the dps and tanks fuck their job up big time
>>334183385
>implying anyone plays animu MMOs long enough to even get to the higher levels
I have never once found one that isn't microtransaction riddled shit. I just want to be a qt trap.
>>334189754
There are more damage dealers so it kinda evens out because of the law of averages. It's pretty rare to find an entire group of horrible damage dealers, whereas it's pretty common to get two shitty tanks.
>>334186232
This. I'm a healer who hates it when the tank takes ages to pull just to make sure it's a "clean pull"
>>334185497
Both my heads tell me it's a boy.
>>334190185
>The only way you can get the challenge you desire is to join a no-life hardcore guild that raids 5 days a week and you put as much hours to it as your dayjob
>>334189203
>tanking requiring skill
Press my aoe button 2-3 times, do a 3 hit enmity combo, taunt, or move the boss. That was hard
>>334183385
>tfw I play healer
>tfw I don't play with cunts and it's not some stupid high school clique bullshit
Maybe if you retards weren't so socially inept, you'd realize you can't just classify a type of player behind some shitty meme image
>>334188090
>Be priest
>Tell our god to smite him for defiance
>God does it
>Pally is now my bitch-boy
>mfw
>>334190167
I have been there for not even 2 weeks, I started playing WoD recently after quitting in wotlk. DPS cta happen, I think they are randomly made to convince people to queue for raids.
>>334188090
Heal yourself all you want dumbass that makes my life easier now all I have to do is heal one less party member.
>>334190256
Nah. The fact that it is a mystery and we will never know makes it all the better.
>>334183385
>be tank
>keep an sye on the healers mana at all times and keep a good pace for everyone
>dps keeps pulling more, making the pulls extremly hard for the healer
>taunt everything of the dps anyway as my job is to take the hits for the team
>healer whispers me to stop taunting them off him
>ok
>dps dies once or twice while throwing insults at the healer that stopped healing him
cant we all just get along and have a good time?
>>334190313
and then 7 days a week 16 hours a day when new content comes out
I'm neet currently but it's just fucking retarded
>>334183385
that image is the exact opposite of correct because if you act like the bottom panel, you get blacklisted and nobody will group with you
>>334183730
Tanks are the lead guitarist
>>334190167
at least your guild has drama
mine is full of bots that automatically say "Gratz" when you get an achievement
I should really leave my guild
>>334190034
Having watched the anime, it's more like ethereal barriers with an artsy olde japanese shinto design like some kind of mandala.
Fun fact: In the show, there's a sort of system later on whereby individuals can awaken into... unique skills, by realizing something about themselves or their roles. It may be as simple as trying something new, or trying harder, or it might be more complicated, but it's typically outside the more practical and predictable system. The character of that barrier maiden class that we meet can use her barriers to create stairways into the air by hopping across them, making platforms on demand basically, meaning that she can suddenly offer positional bonuses or unorthodox escape routes.
I'd honestly like to see Platform Summoner become a thing in some games. Imagine a megaboss has you trapped in some cave ruins in a one-way alleyway and is about to do an attack that'll completely engulf that area. Barrier ho, step on top of the buildings to avoid the attack.
>>334188912
Log Horizon is the greatest /v/ anime around by far.
>>334190625
Shame we can't have nice things in videogames.
>>334189425
Agreed I wanna my Healer to a tank
>>334186053
>tips fedora
Are there any good mmos out there right now anyhow?
>>334189626
I disagree, good tanks not only keep aggro but take steps to reduce the incoming damage. As a Healer you can tell which tanks are half assing it.
>>334183385
>be Tank
>keeping track of everyone's damage output and input
>popping taunts on enemies and threat debuffs on friends
>cycling the damage between me and another tank
>together we're managing the HP and DMG of both the entire party and every enemy group
>afterwards the Healers are talking about how they carried the entire group
>because they paid 1/6 of the attention us Tanks did but we needed them for endgame content because devs and their MUH TRINITY
Every fucking time. The only case where Healers are relatively important is when they're a bard time that also casts buffs other than passive HP gen, but no matter what they think they're the cornerstone of the whole operation.Sometimes we like to let an extra healer die during an instance because a group with good tanks can live without too many healers.
>>334190887
Druid tanks in LFR/LFG pulling everything but not mitigating damage the way they should. You really can tell the difference.
>>334190586
At this point a normalfag guild with GRATZ addon bots sounds fine if I wasn't tired of current WoW until at least pre-patch.
>>334190490
My friend does mythic raiding, and between that and his job I rarely get to hang out with him unless it's WoW related, and barely even then because our schedules never line up.
>>334183385
This is why I don't play mmos anymore healers are always pretty shitty they get hit once and get pissy through the entire dungeon like no one got killed shut the fuck up and keep pressing the same button over and over nigga damn
>>334183858
I disagree. Tanking gets more fun with shit groups too.
>>334183385
>see this image posted a lot
>say I'm a healer and I'm not an overly egotistical dickhead
>everyone accuses me of being an overly egotistical dickhead
>>334183385
inb4 the version where he gets gangbanged
>>334190410
Oh so you dont use skills to reduce incoming damage? Man its so easy to spot the scrub tanks
>>334190741
>Putting your survival in the hands of a single skill of a single class being used correctly
It's interesting but has no place at all in MMOs.
>>334190887
What you say is true, but consider the following.
Let's use WoW as an example as I'm not familiar with games like XIV in which tanking is potentially a lot more dynamic.
You have the braindead easy active mitigation class, like Guardian Druids, who are among some of the best tanks while being the easiest to use ever.
You then have the Brewmaster Monk, which is hard to learn, but easy to master. You can easily cheese around with the class and the Stagger mechanic is very forgiving once you learn to not panic.
Then you have Prot Paladins, which require the most APM than any other tank spec, and you can tell the lazy shitters from the good ones immediately because lazy shitters die typically on the pull.
Tanking is easy as sin. The classes are what complicates it. It is exactly like DPSing in how fucking easy and borderline braindead it is, and MMOs think giving some super complicated system and rotation somehow removes the monotony.
>only fun tanking was MoP Blood DK
>>334183970
>>334183385
Who even is the artist?
>>334183385
There was a serious lack of healers in City of Heroes. I ended up putting all of my points into both the healing superpower and the medicine tree as well.
That AOE healing pulse, complete with heal over time, was damned overpowered and made rushing dungeons easy.I heal because I have very low self-esteem and feeling useful to the team is important to me.
>>334190703
>author of the LNs was an actual everquest player
>the story doesn't immediately deal with escaping the new world, doesn't even treat it like there IS a way out, and focuses on learning the nuances of the new world that may not be the same as the old game, as well as building a society that people actually want to live in because nobody can die, everything tastes like not even shit, but absolutely nothing, and there's not a whole lot else to do but kill monsters or each other
>motivates the masses of newly-transported people to help an outside struggle, adventurers who are by-and-large people who PLAY VIDEO GAMES, by appealing to their sense of narrative, among other things
What is /v/'s opinion on DPS? I think they are____Fun____
>>334191265
Oh yeah who can forget that wow that's a lot of things to do so hard. Much harder than a healer who keeps everyone alive through insane bursts, dpses, and manages their resources. A million times harder than dps who do some complex rotation and watch 5+ timers and if any drop they do shit damage and we hit enrage.
>>334191396
>>334190703
I gotta say, that raid arc has to be one of my favorite things in anime. The pure nostalgia it gave me was off the charts.
>>334191315
I dont know how good of a DK tank I was...I mostly kept spamming Blood Boil
>>334185309
There's a redrawn version of this that suck ass
I love the original
>>334187693
>>334187887
>>334187972
>>334188195
There's a newish one that only has one episode so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fceajqgIROQ
It was alright I guess. Good plot twist. Game he plays looks like arse though.
>>334190410
Depends on the game though anon-kun.
Some games you gotta do active mitigation, but this is just a rotation so I'm not really impressed. Top tier games give tanks utility, so tanks gotta respond to the situation dynamically and unfuck shit caused by retarded DPS. Not to mention usually tanks are the ones that are party leaders.
>>334191349
Did you not fucking understand how that game was played?
Healers helped but taking Empathy or Pain AND the Medicine power pool?
The fuck?
That's not even how you fucking made Empathy broken as shit.
You went high amounts of Recharge Reduction and grabbed something like Power Boost from the Energy Mastery pool and dumped a boosted Fortitude on a Resistance-based melee or squishy ranged DPS, and rotated normal Fortitude on the tank and rest of the party members while dumping Adrenaline Boost on either the tank or a high-DPS person if the tank is good without it.
>>334191561
It's a shame that it came during the comparatively not-as-good arc focusing on the kids and their growth. I mean yeah it was okay but they could have stood to see just a teensy bit less focus.
That all said, the kids do provide a nice contrast to the adults in small doses. It's just a shame that I can't get as hype about SPOILERS:learning that the world based on the game literally lacks the creativity to make new music without outside intervention, and personal growth leading to creating the first new song made within said worldas I can about rad as fuck raid action.
>>334191585
If you meant in MoP, you were fuckingmediocre.
MoP Blood tanking gave you the ultimate risk vs reward in playstyle thanks to Death Strike giving you an absorb shield equal to the damage you just took before using it. So lots of people would take Purgatory to tank a huge spike of damage that would normally one shot them, perfectly execute that 5 stack'd Death Strike, get an HP shield of 5 million, get healed back to full with panicky healers, then turtle away with active mitigation and become literally unkillable gods as long as they timed those Death Strikes right.
The one time it was good again in WoD was when the obscene amount of multistrike and ability to generate a bunch of RP on the fly allowed Breath of Syndragosa to be the best 100 talent, allowing ballsy DKs who went Crit/Multi instead of Mastery/Multi to out DPS everyone, out heal everyone, and still take the least amount of damage thanks to the active mitigation.
Of course DPS wined.
>>334191712
It's been a few years, man. I can't rightly remember what I did. But what you said sounds extremely familiar, so it's possible that I did exactly what you just described. And I think it was Empathy.
All I know is that people were easy to heal and cost practically no energy/mana/whatever the other one was. Also that Absorb Pain move was handy as fuck if you had a good tank.
>>334191940
Yes and I know but dont blame me Im just an innocent Panda Monk healer main
>>334190580
Healers are the bass
Tanks are the drums
The boss of the raids are the singers
DPS are those guys who play the second guitar and think everyone loves him when the actual spotlight is the singer.
In conclusion: Follow the rythmn the drums and bass set and don't lose an eye on the singer.
>>334189464
>On second thought why doesn't /v/ play more healers. You are all a bunch of angry salty fucks anyhow.
But I do, anon.
>>334190950
what game?
>>334192053
Absorb Pain was your panic button, it disabled healing on yourself but was a strong single-target heal.
And sorry, but back in the day some faggot had the dumbest build on the planet (used 7 SEVEN purple IO sets, AKA over the amount the game recognized) and flaunted how their heals were like 6 points above mine, while I did like 3 times the abilities in the same amount of time and my build cost me a fraction of his' price.
I fucking miss that game so god damn much.
>>334189864
i have the same fucking problem with my guild. with others they're so casual and banter with each other but with me they act excessively nice and don't even cuss. do they think im retarded?
>>334192265
Well said anon well said.
>>334192265
>idiots still think the vocalists always have the spotlight
What about instrumental passages? Breaks? Solos?
>>334191315
>Tanking is easy as sin.
yet you have the
-I are tank, that speced dps but use a shield for good measure
-ok geared, but walks into adds, have slow reaction time, never learns mobs pull range, and have a slow pace
-the I am IMBA tank that just pulls everything despite healer not being the best, dies and leaves group
-the patiently tank, first trash pull is to see how much dps the dps´s does and how much mana the healer used, and work from there. always stays until the end. often used to play alot of dungeons
>>334191315
Fuck I loved my Blood DK. Everyone assumed you were a dk shitter and expected you to be paper. Then a few minutes into the dungeon the healer respecs to dps while you're pulling every mob up until the next boss.
>Firelands- Heroic Baleroc
>Notoriously painful for blood dks because we had shit dodge/parry and he was all about them
>Considered going into my shitty dps spec and letting the warrior tank him
>FUCK THAT- change runeforge, all gems and enchants, trinkets, couple of spare pieces of gear with like a fraction more dodge, reforging for that ideal dodge/parry ratio.
>Watch as I take next to no damage all fight and my raid completely fuck up the shard soaking.
And then they removed heart strike.
>tfw only MMO you've played extensively is Dofus/Wakfu because of limited internet speeds
>tfw you don't even know what a raid is
>no such thing as DPS
>tfw you aren't even a real MMObro like everyone else
>>334192543
Nope anon Vocalist are the spotlight stop being a hipster
>>334192543
We're making a music metaphor about MMOs, anon.
What makes you think we can talk about things GOOD music has?
>>334192685
I'm going to skullfuck you until you leave that retarded thought behind where it belongs. What about instrumental bands?
>>334192753
Oh, right. My bad!
>>334192364
>I fucking miss that game so god damn much.
Me too, man. I can only assume that I did alright as I don't remember getting any complaints. No, actually, I do remember one, but he went off on his own.
That game had the best character customization I'd ever seen...
>>334183730
And who's the drummer?
>>334192676
I know that feel bro.
>>334192825
You mean the lame kind?
>>334193149
Raidleader is drummer
DPS plays the synth
>>334193149
Tank is drums
All the DPS are "lead" guitar
>>334192631
Also, I really think they should give tanks more raid utility, getting the 4 set bonus in Dragon Soul was so fucking good. Then there's other stuff like Vigilance, hand of sacrifice, even bear druids tossing out a mediocre tranquility during some downtime.
>Tfw your resto druid tranqs after you give Vampiric blood to the whole raid
>>334192561
>bodypulling is bad
Lol no. Bodypulling speeds up the run so long as dps aren't trigger happy retards and you know how to manage your cc/roots for mobs that run. It's also easier since you don't have to order someone to pull, and it's easier to convince retard mages to wait 3 seconds before attacking then it is to convince them to pull with wand instead of ubernucularblastofubernukage.
t. vanilla tankadin.
>>334193270
I hate you.
>>334190950
>be Tank
>popping taunts on enemies and threat debuffs on friends
>cycling the damage between me and another tank
>using appropriate cooldowns when mechanics of a fight appear
>afterwards the Healers are talking about how they carried the entire group
>because they put out 1/4 the effort us Tanks did but we needed them for endgame content
FTFY.
Healers have an over-inflated sense of self-importance, but so do tanks.
What mental hoops did you have to jump through to think that you're the one managing the health bars and damage of your group? Those jobs fall to healers and dps, respectively. Not to mention individual accountability of each player to not stand in fire, watch their own threat, etc.
You are delusional.
Tanks in media:
>"Don't worry, guys! I'll protect you!"
Tanks in games:
>"Dumbass, stop pulling aggro! Fine, you tank it. I'll taunt when you're dead."
DPS in media:
>"I can do this myself, step aside."
DPS in games:
>"I GOT THIS, YOL-FUCK YOU TANK, FUCK YOU HEALER, DO YOUR GOD DAMNED JOBS!"
Healer in media:
>"Don't worry, I'll make sure we get out of this alive!"
Healer in games:
>"Stop making it hard on me! This is harder than it looks! What? Of course I know what I'm doing, do your own thing faggot!"
Multi-role players in media:
>"I can do anything you can do, but better."
Multi-role players in games:
>"I can do anything you can do, but better. AND I can prove it."
>>334183730
They're not very courteous and constantly play the same music for hours on end that the neighbors deal with every day?
>>334193660
>Multi-role players in games:
>>"I can do anything you can do, but better. AND I can prove it."
don't you mean
>patch notes: hybrid role removed to simplify combat
>Be healslut
>Get adds
>Pull adds into tank's aoe
>Tank stops using aoe
>die
>wipe
> "lol, healer sucks"
>>334193614
Palatanks in vanilla had blessing of sacrifice, blessing of sanctuary, blessing of protection, lay on hands, and judgement of light. They had to be careful with the group's HP too.
>>334193824
I didn't update my game, sorry.
Developers in media:
>"We're going to fuck you up."
Developers in games:
>"We're going to ruin anything you consider fun, AND you'll keep paying us! Look, we brought back Illidan! You can write your checks to my personal bank account, thank you very much."
>>334193873
>healer taking the blame
every single fucking time
>>334186053
Class I play
>pshh nothin' personnel intelligence
>>334193998
I've had my fuck ups as healslut, but I usually learn from them, that group was a mess to start, magic dps ran in before the tank had even loaded in and did nothing to the adds, just ignored them.
So speaking of Healsluts any of you healers do lewd things with your party?
>>334192132
Despite what tryhards will tell you, mediocrity is ok. It sounds like you weren't a serious raider or tank, which means you ultimately did the job. That's what matters in the end. If you didn't die, and no one else died from you mismanaging your threat and taunt mechanics, and you didn't strain the healers to the point of nearly wiping, you were a mediocre DK tank, but you were a decent tank overall.
>>334192561
Just because people are lazy/panic doesn't mean the act of tanking itself is any difficult. People can't pass Silver Proving Grounds STILL, even when outgearing it. Doesn't mean it's hard.
>>334192631
Cata to MoP Blood tanking was the wildest fucking ride in my time in WoW simply from the sheer absurdity of being able to risk everything and become a literal god if you didn't fuck up or practiced enough, alongside in general just being unkillable. Soloing the MoP rares and Zandalari Warbringers was top fucking tier.And Ragewyn came to be
>>334194524
Shoot them in the balls for TKing the tank?
>Tank and Healer
>perfect combo, respect each other because they keep each other alive and do their job
>DPS
>angry that everyone considers him a plebian
>shitposts about the physicaly weaker one that he or she is a slut in reality
>shitposts about how the tank is just a "I R STRONK EH.... DEFENZ!" retard with no brain
>constantly dips his Fedora in Mt.Dew
can we agree that DPS are the worst?
>>334194524
I wish. I need to find a party that will treat me like a cockslave.
>he doesn't play all roles
it's like you're a skill-less hack who's only good at one thing
>>334194541
>Soloing the MoP rares
The rares in mop were soloable by any class though if you weren't a tard. I'm pretty certain they were designed to be soloable. I soloed them as arcane mage while leveling, without heirlooms.
>>334194524
Not yet, but I did fuck the healslut when I went DPS.
>>334194795
What game?
>>334193873
It's usually at that point I will only heal myself and if the tank asks why I didn't heal him I will say "Oh, sorry. I thought I was the tank now."
>>334194828
Not on launch, unless you were a Blood DK.
The rares got nerfed after a few weeks.
>>334194738
I like DPS when they have debuffs and buffs. Heck, just make more Support roles instead of more straight damage dealers.
>>334194854
>What game?
For a party like that I'd play any game.
>>334194541
>you were a mediocre DK tank ,but you were decent tank overall
Thanks anon that was nice and down to earth
>healer
>not playing a true support boon sharing class
>>334194929
hunters/prot pallies/the turbo autists with monks at that level before the nerf did them fine
>>334194795
You'll probably have to try an older or more obscure MMO. Most popular ones have made healing extremely easy, which means you won't get much respect.
>>334195046
One of the very few things that WoW did right was combining the buff class with a potent healing class (shaman). Playing an actual bard class doesn't make you very popular because you're merely a more mobile version of a scroll or potion, something that's brought along to increase the "real" players' stats.
>>334193943
I've got opinions on this, but I have been Horde since 2004, so I can't confidently argue against this.
Short version is that most of those don't require any thought or consideration of other players HP. Judgement of Light, for example, is used on the boss, and everyone attacks it. You don't micromanage anything, and you probably were using that judgement all the time anyway.
BoP being the one that is legitimately useful and required actual management.
From what I've gathered over the years, Paladins were sub-par tanks, sub-par healers, and absolute garbage DPS. They were great for those sweet, sweet buffs, but often got relegated to out of combat res duty.
Shame about those buffs though. Those were unbelievably short.
>>334194796
>skill-less hack who's only good at one thing
You do know that makes zero sense
>be healer
>keep on spamming levitate on someone, just a harmless effect that makes them float and gets rid of fall damage
>they keep on dispelling it and yelling at me
>they eventually just pull every mob they can including a boss, wipe the dungeon, and leave
to this day i'll never understand
>>334185309
>still not uncenosred
>>334194929
Oh ok. That explains it. Tanks in general during MoP were fucking insane though, especially while leveling. Early level paladins would oneshot mobs with the captain america shield throw, and I leveled a Warrior only soloing dungeons.
And vengeance or whatever that passive was was just silly.
>Be playing Ragnarok Online
>Pre-renewal
>Paladin
>Literally have more HP than any healer can heal
>The only efficient way to heal is with Yggdrasil Seeds and Fruits
How can other Paladins even compare?
>>334185715
Lineage 2 had the best healing/buffing classes/gameplay.
trinity infighting like this always reminds me of band breakups
which role is the drummer that thinks hes more important than he actually is, the singer that thinks he could go solo and the gruitarist too wasted out to realize whats going on?
>>334195046
>implying any game makes those a class anymore
Nigga they are trying their hardest to remove healers because it's "boring that they are required."
You think the class that's a defense/DPS boost to the party isn't on that same list? NOT DYNAMIC ENOUGH NEED BIG NUMBERS ON YOUR SCREEN IT'S UNFUN OTHERWISE BECAUSE 13 YEAR OLD DPS FUCKWIT DOESN'T LIKE THIS CLASS
>>334194738
>Tfw I formed a Healer and Tank Combo with my best friend in Burning Crusade
>knowing we could rely on each other, cover each other's backs
>only had to worry about DPS sucking, which was super-replaceable
Oh, it was a marvelous time.
>>334183385
actual healers get heat as soon as the raid´s fucked up coz of talentless DPS hacks. you´re the trump of the party.
>>334194954
Come to FFXIV Behemoth and join LEWD
>>334194882
Did this in FFXI as WHM, Flash and Stoneskin, tanked like a boss.
>>334195491
won't LEWD be like 10 sluts to each cock?
>>334195256
I like that image.
>>334195307
People keep telling me how cool it is that you don't need a tank or healer in some games.
How those roles are archaic and outdated.
Meanwhile when I play games where they've done this, it's just a DPS circle jerk. I don't understand why people think this is a good direction for the genre to go.
>>334195608
The male cocks are usually free, others seem to only be interested in futa shecocks.
>>334195608
>won't LEWD give me the opportunity to prove how my absolute devotion to huge drooling cocks is far superior to anyone else's
The answer is yes, of course.
>>334195608
I just want to be a lewd healer and the masculine tank to suck my boycock and ride my dick
>>334195708
fucking KS egomaniacs. you wouldnt raid shit without someone doing all the work for you in the party
>party members don't eat, buff and or dispel themselves between pulls and expect you to do it
>complain about you drinking or running out of mana mid-fight
>tank pulling the boss when you literally have 2% mana
>Not being the healer, tank AND DPS
I SHIGGY
DIGGY
DOOOOOOOOO
>>334195491
Are you guys that /d/ guild? I hate that game and not interested in ERP, but at the same time I am morbidly curious what playing with /d/ would be like.
>>334195280
Reminds me why modern MMOs are shit, if every class falls squarely into those 3 categories there's some serious design problems and limitations.
>>334195708
The people who call them archaic and outdated are salty pvp cunts on a pve game like WoW who don't do enough damage to kill shit in pvp because the devs are too retarded to separate pve skill-power levels from pvp (as in, a heal heals for less in PvE on a spell-by-spell basis)
>>334195941
everyone is a futa roe
>>334195915
Sure you can do all 3 but your stats have to be crappy as fuck
