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Ex-Nintendo fan here. Let's talk about Frame Rate in Star
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNdQBY60Ru8

See the pic? That's the kinda of Nintendo fan I was.

I don't care for Wii U, NX (wii u 2.0) or Nintendo anymore.
That company makes you blind and stupid.
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Nah those people would be blind and stupid even without Nintendo.
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Okay bye
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The only real benefit to frame rates above 40 is that frame dropping isn't (very) noticeable.
That's well within acceptable levels.

Also the video you linked is in favor of the game.
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>>333919178
Thats pretty shit, but expected for a rushed game.
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>>333919459
weeb makes people stupid you know
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>ex nintendo fan here

aaand i stopped right there
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>>333919178
>Ex-Nintendo fan here

Why is that so funny to me
It's like saying "Hi, I'm my wife's son ex-father"
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>>333919641
>The only real benefit to frame rates above 40 is that frame dropping isn't (very) noticeable.
Higher frame rates always give you more information, they smooth out motion, they act like AA, there are lots of benefits. The reason why 60 is the target is that it's generally an even multiple of the TV's refresh rate, so you don't get weird uneven information spread.

It's either 30 or 60, for me. Don't aim for 45 or something, that's weird. An even and steady framerate is more important than just having more raw frames.
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>>333919673
No but /v/ does.
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You waded through over thousands youtube comments.Bravo OP.
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>>333919787
Because NIntendo fans are brainwashed
I was brainwashed

I don't want people to be like I was.
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>>333919641
Stable 60>Stable 30 fps >unstable framerate no matter how high
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>>333919178
Frame drops on current gen consoles suck, but that dude is right. The slowdown when a bomb exploded in Starfox 64 made them feel way better.
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I thought it'd looked ugly as fuck because Ninty was aiming for a stable fps.
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Nintendo idiots will buy Star Fox even if the price was 79$ plus 19$ for Star Fox Guard

they are that nigger
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>ex nintendo fan here

I believe you OP.
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>Wii-U
>targeting 60fps

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>333920047
>Nintendo idiots will buy Star Fox even if the price was 79$
So Canadians?
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>Another Platinum game on Wii U with a frame-rate of 60, with dips to mid-50 and 40 in highly taxing areas

>People are going to say this ruins the game, and destroy all discussion of a Star Fox reboot
>Over fucking framerates
kill me now it hurts to live
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>>333919178
His line of thought isn't uncommon.

http://www.insomniacgames.com/how-much-does-framerate-matter/

>Framerate should be as consistent as possible and should never interfere with the game. However, a drop in framerate is interestingly seen by some players as a reward for creating or forcing a complex setup in which a lot of things must happen on the screen at once. As in, “Damn! Did you see that? That was crazy!”
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I like this ex fan better than you desu
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>>333920164
Canacucks will buy one copy for them and one for wife's boyfriend
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>>333920186
Framerate fags have killed the fun of gaming, for themselves and everyone else
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Reminds me of Ocarina of Time.

It ran at 20 FPS, and nintendo fans despised it.
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>>333919178
>MOOOOOOOOOOM OP is being autistic on the internet again!
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>>333919973
It looks ugly as fuck because the game is rendering twice, for the gamepad cockpit view and the TV third person camera.
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>>333919178
>See the pic? That's the kinda of Nintendo fan I was.

You were a nimrod from the beginning? Why would you even admit that? You're probably still like that now
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>>333920186
Yeah, I remember people saying the same things about Bayo 2. "Muh shit graphics, muh sloppy framerate". Turns out it was GOTY 2014 and people are still jelly about it being exclusive.
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>>333919178
>60 with dips to 40
Who gives a fuck? 60 is good and 40 is fine. It's not like we're talking Bloodborne level drops here.
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>>333920186
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>>333920134

>Smash, Mario Kart, Donkey Kong, Nintendo Land, Super Mario 3D Wörld, Yosho Woolys World, Bayonetta 2, Mario Maker , Captain Toad Treasure Tracker, Splatoon, shitton of Indie games

Dumb frogposter
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>>333920210
Honestly, I used to get the feeling of "Holy shit it went so goddamned wack that it blew the goddamned performance", but only if it's something you do, like blowing a fuck-ton of cars in GTA

If the game just randomly chugs along, like Dark Souls, then it feels fucking horrid.
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>>333920186
>highly taxing
>anything about SF0 being highly taxing at all
And
>nintendrones constantly shitpost with framerate everywhere
>suddenly framerate dosent matter anyways
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>>333920134
>still buttmad about Bayonetta 2
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>>333920290

This

discussion of framerate has increased by a factor of 1000 in the last few years. In the seventh gen you rarely heard people complain about that shit.
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>>333920134
Has more 60FPS titles than PS4
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>>333919178
I have to agree with this guy when something so cool happened in an old game that the system fucking tanked from how cool it was.
Freedom Planet emulates this effect with some of the boss attacks by going into slo-mo during them.
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>>333920527
you sure told me XD
you win the internet war~! Yaaay!
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>>333919952
>brainwashed

I don't call it brainwashing but blind brand loyalty that fans force themselves into. For example, you can be a huge Nintendo fan but still be very critical about their decisions, approach with an open mind, and be respectful to other console/PC-users. Blind loyalty is when somebody will defend a company they owe nothing to, they become obsessed with the brand and will justify immaturely and unreasonably why their favorite company is the best. Don't even pretend this doesn't even apply to Sony or Microsoft either, reading comments from IGN or Nintendo-dedicated websites shows how stupid people brainwash themselves to like a corporation.

My comment saying that calling yourself an "ex-Nintendo fan" comes off as really cringy and sounds like some dumb emo-kid.
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>>333919178
>ex-nintendo fan here
>company makes you blind and stupid

Mm yeah no your shitposting attempts won't fool me. Saging still works.
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>>333920640
>being this butthurt you have to resort to ironic shitposting
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>>333920467
Sony fans have seen all of the FPS shitposting about how terrible their games' framerates have been, but they haven't internalized the actual reason for why that's an issue (because they're stupid.)

So they assume that even a single FPS drop from 60 is terrible and just as bad as 24fps cinematic framerate or oscillating from anywhere between 30 and 10 fps. They assume (because they're stupid) that everyone else's FPS problems are just as bad as theirs (but they're not).
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games have done this since they were first created
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>>333920210
The Virtual Console has less frame rate drop and it's far better in my opinion
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>>333920428
Star Fox Zero can't be played without the game pad?
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>>333919178
I was never like that and just got out of a riveting 400 plus reply thread about kirby.

The fuck is your excuse OP. If you're standards are what you screen capped, well then you're always going to be that.
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The slowndown in Star Fox 64 is horrible

The Virtual Console version fixes most of it

No one ever before told me that they miss the slowdowns in Star Fox 64 "for artistic reasons"
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>>333920942
>b-b-but Sony
>m-m-my game runs fine
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>>333919178
So it's Bloodborne. Sounds good.
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>>333920047
>mfw I only paid 38$ for a new copy of Mario Maker

Im hoping I can get a similar price on star fox too.
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>>333921318
Gotcha!
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>>333921336
I know two cucks who bought the digital AND the disc version
59,99$ + tax
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>>333919178

That's the kind of fan every platform has. Fanboys, idiots, kids, they are everywhere, always have been, you just see em more because lol internet.
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>>333921336
Nintendo prices never drop, what
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>>333921386
>I-i-i was just pretending to be retarded
>I swear I don't suck Nintendo cock
>f-f-f-fuck sony
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>>333920186
You faggots brought this to yourselves with the pc+wiiu combo
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>>333921518
That's true

/v is 99% of the time wrong

/v is backwards, if they say buy a PS4, don't buy it, of they say get a Wii U + PC, don't get it.
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>>333921402
As long as they're financially well and ain't harming anybody, they could be buying 120 cartons of eggs as long as it makes them feel complete as a human.
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>>333921505
A website had a promotion for new customers that gave them $20 off orders of 50$ or more.
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>>333921782
>As long as they're financially well
>They sell their bodies to buy gifts for Alison Rapp
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>>333919641
The frametime is contantly jumping from 16ms to 33ms, i.e. stuttermess
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>>333919178
what do you expect ? it's game for furries.
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>>333920613
Dont forget the 240p realistic graphics.
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I expected Nintendo to release a decent, HD quality 60fps fast Star Fox

They were too worried about other stuff and never cared to fund a decent Star Fox game
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Wii U doesn't have blast processing

nintendo NX won't have blast processing

fuck Nintendo
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>>333919178
40-60fps is fine and still responsive.
20-30fps is not.
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>>333920527
You go ahead and make an engine that runs the shit going on in Star Fox at 1200p at a locked 60fps. We'll wait.

Honestly this is the exact same shit that happened with Bayo 2.
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...I don't see the problem.
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>>333919780
>aaand
>>>/reddit/
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oops fuck wrong thread

>Cant even do 60fps with PS2 graphics at 720p

WOW 30-50fps is fucking bullshit how are jap devs so bad at optimizing their game engines?

its also slow as fuck so glad the wii u is dead what a turd of a console
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>>333925395
The problem is the shit graphics, gamepad controls and huge frame rate drops
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>>333925510
Wait how the fuck do you aim and shoot dont tell me its the gamepad touchpad?

never ever used a wii u
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>>333925395
>implying this is what PS2 games looked like
>it's 1200p
>game usually stays between 55 and 60 fps
Sasuga shitposter-kun
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>>333925634
>>it's 1200p
LOL in your dreams is 720p with barely any AA.

ive seen better looking games made 10+ years ago
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>>333919178
RIGHT. Because Sonyggers don't defend 24fps in shit like Order 1866, Uncharted and FF15.

Fanboys are deluded faggots no matter what they are a fanboy of
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>>333925576
>Wait how the fuck do you aim and shoot dont tell me its the gamepad touchpad?
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>>333919178

Nice blog

>>>/reddit/
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>>333925726
Wii U owners must want to kill themselves.

at least when i had a xbox one it had games, not many but enough.
this year looked really shit so i sold it.

Might get a PS4 down the line if they ever fix the controller or release a upgraded cheaper version
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>Say Bloodborne drips under 20 fps
>Hurr it's barely noticeable, fuck off Nintendrone
>StarFox drops under 50 fps
>Hurr now framerate is a huge deal, Nintendrones are shit eatets
Ok
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We did it Sonybros!!
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>>333925691
>LOL in your dreams
It literally objectively is. 720+480=1200.

Cool facts you got there, you're right, PS2 games obviously looked better than this
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>>333925850
>release a upgraded cheaper version

PS4K VR BUndle 799$ + TAX
>you can get 10% discount if you buy using your facebook credit card
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Why the Gimmickpad shit

Why not just let us play our Arcade Shooter with the Pro Controller

This game could've been good

I'm genuinely sad now
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>>333925937
LERL OKAY LETS ADD EVERYTHING TOGETHER UMM UMMM MY PC DOES 1080P BUT LIKE I HAVE ANOTHER SCREEN LOL SO THATS LIKE 4K IDK LALALALALAL

It still looks like shit and the dual screen gimmick died with the DS i dont know why nintendo bother

Its barely 1.6mega pixels which is well below 2k that 1080p is so your full of shit.

Its 900p or below equivalent or worse
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>>333926139
Because nintendo a shit.

They have been shit since the Wii for over 10 years now its hardly news
>>333926092
:(

PS4's here are already 600aud
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>>333919178
So the frame drops are because of the shitty gimmicky controller?

Fuck you Nintendo, drop the gimmicks and your shit would be alright. God Damn.
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>>333926232
The frame drops are because of the explosions that look like shit it cant even handle fucking basic particle effects lerls but yeah it looks like a latency issue is well.

This game could have been 1080p 60fps with better graphics if it was on a single screen and just had the wii u controller for targeting not a 2nd screen
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>>333919178

so it looks like shit ON TOP of running like shit? amazing nintendo

>b-but nintendo games run 60fps/1080 rock solid niggers!
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eh framedrops to low 40s isn't that big of a deal as long as there's no screentearing, which there isn't
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I don't get the need for shitposting this game anymore.

>New footage was shown
>Game looks better than expected
>Most fans are finally, actually looking forward to it
>Nobody ever complained abut the framerate because it already looked way above what console games usually get
>Suddenly they make a video quantifying the fps of the same footage we've seen and been contempt with
>s-stop being excited about games y-you drones
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>>333924817
>make an engine

How about Nintendo make a console that uses hardware made in the same decade of its release?
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>>333922030
Jet? I used them a couple times, they're okay. One of my games came in trashed, so I exchanged it at Walmart for a minty copy.
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>>333920134
>A dumb frog poster wrote this
Figures
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Honestly I enjoyed raping my PS3 by filling the screen with particles in Dragon's Dogma.
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Starfox is baby's first shmup wth like 3 aecond reaction windows, that 15ms loss won't affect you, hell, Nintendo fas won't even notice it

If the game was atually dufficult,not this baby kaka, then I'd see your point
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>>333919178

EX-Sony fan here

sony is pure shit, the only thing they have is console power because out of that games are MOVIE-SHIT , 0 gameplay, 0 fun , 5 hours long

#4theRetards
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>>333919178
>Yet another consolewar shitposting thread with complete bait front and center
I never get tired of these
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There is nothing wrong with that, its not different than the "simulated" slowdown that some shmups do when things get hectic or a boss explodes. Its just an effect. I kinda like it to.
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>"Man, maybe /v stopped being a shit board."
>Sees this thread
>"Some things never change."
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