Has any JRPG managed to surpass it in terms of plot?
>muh backstabbing
reminder that ramza is now a cute trap
>>333861698
Maybe ff6 and xenogears
>>333861804
>tfw sugarcoating some dumb fake-princess into my plot
>>333862829
Those games have terrible plots.
>DUDE JESUS WAS A DEMON LMAO
>>333861698
phantasy star 4
Recommend me some games with good story/plot
>>333862150
would you suck his dick, /v/?
>>333863092
wait, when do they stab each other?
Tactics Ogre had a better plot.
Which has a better translation: the original or WoTL?
>>333863092
Wait.... did they change the ending?
She ends up stabbing him in the original and he disarms and kills her.
>>333866303
>>333863686
Senpaitachi, that's not the ending scene
Go replay the game
>>333865260
I prefer WOTL
>>333864532
this
TO unfortunately falls apart in the exact same way at the very end but story is much better until then.
littlemoney
>>333863585
Wtf
>>333862829
Came here to say that
>>333863145
This guy doesn't know his head from his ass
>>333866567
Lotta loyalty for a hired Squire.
>>333861698
Well, it didn't surpass TO before it to begin with... so there's that.
>>333863092
wow, this is beautiful. Was there an animation studio involved?
>>333870385
No, that was all me.
Vagrant Story, Undertale, and OFF.
>>333861698
>posts the pale imitation of TO Square bought out of envy
>has any game surpassed it
This is sort-of like asking if Sharknado 3: Oh Hell No! has ever been surpassed in concept. Even syfy itself at least also shit out the original.
Tactics Ogre's plot drops the ball hard when the Triple H and Adam Sandler lookalikes reveal the Dark Knights could have used the Brunhild to open the chaos gate from the very beginning and not have to jump through any hoops getting Kachua or the necklaces.
>>333861698
Tactics Ogre Luct was probably better.
FF6 is better.
FF12 probably too.
>>333862829
>FF6
HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA NO
How about a game whose plot actually stays consistent from start to finish and doesn't fall apart like FF Tactics and Tactics Ogre do
>>333868621
I forgot to mention that Kachua constantly acts like a selfish bitch and her actions make no sense, but we're supposed to accept that her becoming queen as the best ending. She's like a completely different character when she rejoins the party in chapter 4.
>>333874168
>FF12 probably too.
In concept maybe. Before SE fucked it up with Vaan.
>>333874443
Too bad no such game exists and noone has actually ever wasted their time with the game you posted to know for sure.
>>333874798
Women's actions aren't based on reason, they're based in emotion. So they tried to go for a realistic Catiua.
>>333873054
pure memes
>>333861698
Why was Ivalice so good? I wish square would go back to it.
>>333862829
Xenogears has a good setting/background but not good plot
>>333875424
THANK YOU. Someone needed to fucking say it.
>>333861698
Nope, not really.
>>333875059
If they were really going for a misogynistic approach, she'd be implied to be an incompetent or a puppet ruler. She succeeds in uniting the island whereas Denim either gets assassinated or conquered in a fullscale Lodis invasion.
>>333862829
>>333875424
>>333875542
Xenogears isn't even a game, it's about half of one, and a poorly/inconsistently translated one at that.
>>333876204
Shit happens, bro.
>>333876408
Bad writing happens, too.