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Thoughts on this masterpiece?
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my 3rd most hated FF after 13 and 10
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overrated and underrated at the same time
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>>333775665
A god-send compared to that atrocity known as FF8
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>early 2016
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>>333775665
I hate all the characters and their designs. I only played an hour of it until I realized by memory card was broken and couldnt save and that I was already contemplating giving it back to my midget mexican friend Jose who let me borrow it
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Bad: random encounter rate
Good: everything else
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Had two directors with completely different visions of how the game should play. Squaresoft told both of them that they would be fired if they removed the content of the other. The result was Squaresoft sending reps to babysit the project.

Months of protests from both directors led to the game almost being cancelled. Squaresoft eventually pieced what little they could of a story together and released it late.
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Its decent. Its not a fucking masterpiece. Fantastic soundtrack. Decent plot. Comfy characters. Aged well.
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>>333775665
Best music in the series.
Good story.
Good characters.
Good pacing.

Overall, a surprisingly good game.
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>>333775861
Kickass Ragnarok ship, obsessive card collecting game, Quistis, social aspects in a JRPG.

I think you mean one of the best games. The only problems I had with it was the dated graphics at the time, and dead open-world.
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>>333775958
how do you know this? who was responsibe? how did they difer?
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>>333775665

Overrated as hell.

>Shit pacing
>Slow combat
>Uninteresting cast (Except Vivi)
>Generic fantasy setting
>Trance system is shit
>Male villain wears a fucking leotard

Nostalgia has to be the only reason why people like this game.
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>>333775665
hate it.
Worst main character of the series.
Worst final boss but with good song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VnZLp3qjpc
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>>333775665
started playing it when it came out..... got bored went back to diablo 2
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>everyone says FF7 is the best
"o-oh shit, I better pick a non-mainstream favorite. I know, FF6!"
>suddenly FF6 being the best becomes an opinion as popular as FF7 being the best
"O-OH FUCK... err... what else.... I know! FF9 is the best in the series!"
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Got it for £5.
It's flawed but it has some great points to it as well.
Vivi op
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>>333775665
Best and only good 3D Final Fantasy 2bh
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>>333775665
Put the series back on track then FF X happen and the series died.
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>>333777659
Seriously, what is up with all this FFX hate? The games only went downhill after FFX
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It's just okay. Decent RPG but I don't really see how it's a masterpiece either.
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>>333775665
Final Fantasy: Now For Kids!
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>>333778151
(you)
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pc when
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the battles are too long
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>>333775665
awful character designs
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>>333775665
im sick of the praise of the game

>to easy
>no customization
>stock characters
>attracts furfags
>autistic fanbase
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Hilda Garde 3 was a pretty cool airship and nice music for it.

But you get it for like two hours worth of gameplay.

Everything else was ok. Chocobo stuff was fun, especially when you figure out how to get far in it while still in disc one.
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It's not a masterpiece; at all.

I hated the art direction for character design. Vivi is the only character that makes it work. On top of that, the ability system is the WORST and most grindy shit they could have chosen. It's the same system that made Tactics Advance such a dogshit game. Learning abilities from equipment is trash tier.
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I found the characters likable. Especially Freya. Inb4 furfag
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>>333777941
>linear as fuck
>shit characters
>shit story
>shit bosses
>shit gameplay

The job system was good though.
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Best FF IMHO
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>>333779485
>It's the same system that made Tactics Advance such a dogshit game
?
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It's a medicore RPG and the first FF I play into the series. There are a lot of problem associated with the story and how some story or interesting are just forgotten.

>>333779757
You're not the only one, anon. She was an alright character but boy they didn't bother going back to her country, her boyfriend, or anything related to her again.
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>oh a battle, this should only take 30 seconds or so
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>>333779970
The tactics advance series was a massive disappointment; even moreso if you came from PSX FFTactics looking for more of that same quality.

Learning abilities by grinding with specific pieces of gear only serves to hold up the entire game. It's a shit system.
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>>333775665
It's a perfect video game. The only flaws you could argue are

>combat opening animation gets tedious
>atb is too slow
>Trance is automatic

that's pretty much it
i guess also the cardgame sucks balls but you're only required to play it the one time. they were just trying to do a new spin of Triple Triad but the thunder did not strike twice.
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>FF7
>FF9
>FF10

in that order, didn't even bother with the others.
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When you haven't experienced todays shit, and all you had was a ps1, only then can you truly appreciate it. its an amazing game.
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>>333777442
My favorite ff is 4 and it's always been 4.
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>>333775958
That explains why the final boss was replaced for no reason.
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Just left Madain Sari. Do things start getting exciting soon? Been enjoying it btw, just a bit of a slow burn so far.
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>>333781149
That's an awesome picture whered you get that?
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>>333781223
It depends. Do you like DBZ?
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>>333781223
Disc 2 in general is rather slow. But the ending leading to disc 3 is nice.
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>>333781279
google FFIX concept art
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>>333775665
Better than 8 but worse than 7.
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>>333775665

One of the worst in the franchise, sold like shit for FF standards, the hipsters' choice
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>>333779887
>can't even explain why

You're retarded even though I agree with you except the gameplay was much better than the casual ATB trash.
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The designs always terrified me so I never played this game. Midgets are really fucking creepy
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>>333776084
>social aspects in a JRPG

FF7 did it way better and that was a very very VERY minor part of the game.
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>>333781301
A lot. now I'm hyped for whatever is about to happen.

>>333781321
Sweet. wanted disc 3 to pick up so I could motivate and power through to the end
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>>333776084
>dated graphics at the time
The fuck are you talking about? FF8's graphics were the one thing that was impressive about it.
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IX is essentially the contrarian hipster choice.

It doesn't do anything particularly well or bad. Its just sort of there.
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>>333775665
horrendous loading times that make the game near unplayable without emulator speedup when combined with the sweeping camera angles that start every single random encounter and attack

"couldn't steal anything"

is a big lazy nostalgia trip of previous FF games yet it doesn't have the fucking job system or the five person party from ff4

half of your party has no reason to even be in the game and 90% of the important characters are completely unlikable

game is way to goddamn long, 4 disks like FF8 only it doesn't have nearly as many FMV's

people praise it so much because it's the new hipster FF game on account of FF6 becoming too popular after everyone previously rode ~that~ games dick all day. it's not awful or anything but it's got some pretty major flaws and there's a reason nobody gave a shit about it when it came out
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>>333781720
And the music, and triple triad, and...yeah that's about it.
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>>333780238

FFTA > FFT

FFT's gameplay is a buggy mess, and even if you fixed all the bugs it would still be broken as fuck, units like Orlandu are just handed to you with no effort.

The story is the worst of any FF game, just pretentious "le intriguing political intrigue" nonsense. Marshe is a far better written morally grey character than Delita with his atrociously handled asspulls.
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I assume everyone here likes JRPGs and shit.

I don't know what, but I absolutely adore the entire concept behind them, but when I actually have to PLAY one, I never finish it. I got pretty far into Tales of Vesperia and Chrono Trigger, but other than that, I usually stop fairly quickly.

Anyone maybe have jrpgs I would stomach easier, or at least tips on how not to be such a fucking autist with the one's I've already tried? I made it MAYBE a couple hours into FF9, and only a few more into FF7- both of which get nothing but praise. I should be enjoying them, right?
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>>333781968
the problem with FFT's story isn't the poitical intrigue

it's when that all gets thrown into the goddamn trash for "RAMZA GET THE MAGIC ROCKS BEFORE THE BADGUYS DO AND STOP THE EVIL DEMON THAT'S ACTUALLY CHRISTIAN GOD" nonsense
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>>333781786
What it does exceptionally well is the sense of fun, adventure and charm.

You stage a play, kidnap a princess then team up with her, fly across the earth, watch cities fall and friends die, discover ancient secret places in the world, and eventually visit the stars. All while trying to get a handful of cute princess butt.

May not be a masterpiece but when I think back on the PlayStation FFs it is by far the one with the most moments that bring a smile to my face.
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>>333782069
play one without random encounters
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>>333781968
>Delita with his atrociously handled asspulls
go on
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>>333782069
check out live a live for the snes

>>333782196
ff7 has all kinds of exciting/goofy things that happen too on top of revolutionary for the time graphics, a story that has literally any merit at all and combat that's fun and not a complete slog
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>>333782069
>both of which get nothing but praise

So are you just selectively choosing to not read the thread or what.

OF COURSE you are bored playing IX. That is not exactly a rare complaint. And the fact that you don't like jrpgs means you're NOT an autist, if anything. You might have ADD though.
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>>333782069
How old are you?

Most people who fell in love with Final Fantasy and JRPGs in general did so as kids. When you're a kid their stories seem deep and epic and you can't wait to keep playing to find out what happens next. As an adult you see them for what they are, basic fantasy adventure stories with a lot of common tropes set against a few original and creative pieces of lore.

If you're not super invested in the story, there's very little to keep you coming back in 99% of JRPGs. Their combat systems are almost universally shallow and repetitive and there is little else to do except walk around very basic locations, talk to NPCs and look for secret items.
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>>333775665
only bad thing is the slow loading times and battles. It's the best game in the series.
The artstyle is great, too bad the mainline Final Fantasy games will forever be realistic sci fi shit from now on.
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Post rat waifu
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>>333782285
>ff7 has all kinds of exciting/goofy things that happen too

Yeah, but without the sense of drama and scale that FF9 has. FF7 was trying to be more of a cerebral/sci-fi influenced story with a message. FF9 was focused almost entirely on just being about a war between good and evil and making that as grand as possible.

I liked 7 too of course and I agree it had many fun and lighthearted moments but it just didn't have the same feel that 9 got so right. Going back to 9 feels warm in a way that 7 doesn't. That's the best way I can think to describe it.
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>>333775665
GOAT Final Fantasy, and the embodiment of the series. Followed by:
FF12 - One of Squeenix few risks that paid off.
Lost Odyssey - Its got Cid, and its the only decent release since 12.
FF Tactics - Yes its easy, but you dont have to power level.
FF 8 - At least the card game did something.
FF7 / FF6 / X - Good not great, just didnt age as well. X has really good gameplay but terrible the voice acting and flat characters made it hard to get into the world.
FF 3 / 4 - DS Ports are surprisingly legit.
FF 5 - Fun, but not terribly memorable.
FF 1 - Really more of a bucketlist thing anymore.
FF 2
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I refuse to acknowledge the existence of FF 13, and all sequels from any main title. FFTA2 was okay gameplay but the story was worthy of Nintendo.
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>>333782763
Back off. She's mine
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>>333777941
It's mostly one shitposter who admits he never played the game because someone on the internet told him it was bad.

>>333778151
So just Final Fantasy since day one?
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>>333779393
Who needs Hilda Garde when you can fly a chocobo?
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>>333775665
Vivi is one of the best characters in all of final fantasy.
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It's great until the last disc which is terrible.
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>tfw 9 is now too popular to like and must be hated
>8 is now the hipster choice all the edgy kids on the internet worship
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I wouldn't really call 9 a masterpiece. The combat was horrible. Not the mention the characters and their designs.
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>>333783973
I think most final fantasy games are pretty damn good and it's mostly just personal preference mixed with nostalgia that makes people so defensive. As long as your enjoying the series that's what matters in the end.
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>>333784274
Also typical elitism you see in every fandom, and anything that is full of hyperactive kids and autistic manchildren is guaranteed to be shit.
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>>333783501
>>333782763
You weird fucks ruined a perfectly decent character. You should be ashamed, and Freya would never concede to your sick ways.
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>>333783973
Why dont you just ignore what the cool kids are doing and judge a game based on how you like it?
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>>333784630
Don't reply to furfags.
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>>333784274
FALSE

It can be measured and objectively ranked in order to prove others wrong.
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>>333784819
Which I always been doing and wouldn't like half the games I do had I not.
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>>333775665

alright bitches whens this motha fucka comin out?!
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>>333785791
Early 2016, haven't you heard??
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>>333785937

sheeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!
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>>333784946
Well of course its important to recognize when a game has flaws but if you so happen to enjoy a game that maybe doesn't have the best reputation you shouldn't let others stop you from enjoying it. Also if someone happens to dislike the game you enjoy you shouldn't get super defensive about it.
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>>333775665
My second favorite Final Fantasy, and one of the very best, if not, the best.
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>>333784630
I'd think she'd feel conflicting emotions from it all.

Understandably creeped out, but she likely wouldn't expect so many people to find her incredibly attractive either.
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>>333784630
Anon, that applies to all female characters that any anon would masturbate to. You don't complain about this with Tifa or Aeris fags.
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>>333777941
But XI and XII were better than X.
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>>333777941
I really don't get it either.
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>>333782069
Try Final Fantasy XII, The Last Story, Xenoblade and Xenoblade X.
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>>333781516
>you're retarded
>but I agree with you in almost everything
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>>333775808
That is actually perfectly true, and despite the ridiculousness of the comment, I know exactly what you mean.

People big it up so much for "revisiting traditions" but also, in fairness, it wasn't a fantastic title, and did have quite a few major flaws.

Currently replaying on iOS and finding myself struggle to press on with it.
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>>333788682
> try xenoblade x
> 50 hrs to get a flightless mecha
> ff12 and xenoblades combat systems

We're not trying to scare people away from jrpgs
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>>333775665
Utter shit

Easiest FF
NECRON OUT OF NOWHERE
Shitty trance meaty skin
auto potion spam = auto win
midgets and furries
anticlimatic fights everywhere
worst normal battle theme
forgetable characters aside Vivi.
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>>333775665
It's not a masterpiece and it's actually one of the worst FFs ever
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>>333783442
>le XIII isn't Final Fantasy
opinion discarded, and its not because I *love* XIII, its because people like you can't stand change in a series that prides itself on every entry being distinct. You're literally the cancer that contributed to killing this series. Fuck you
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>>333775665
Steiner and Vivi are the best FF characters of all time

Game pisses me off how slow it is

I actually like the ability system for some reason, having to equip stuff to learn it.

Some of the comfiest places in any FF game ever, pic related.

Trance is fucking useless

Story is relatively simple and all the better for it, even though the stuff that you learn about Zidane and Kuja is kind of fucking retarded and unnecessary.

It plays things way too safe with the combat

Music is fantastic

Art style is charming

having to split your party in two later in the game and choosing the parties kind of irked me for some reason. I hate having to use Quina.
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>>333791887
fuck forgot pic
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>>333791887
>splitting the party
but that's nothing new since VII
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>>333775665
Its good but it stumbles in some areas.
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>>333775665
*tips furdora
b8 thread
posted every day
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>>333792013
yeah but there weren't as many characters that pissed me off in VII as much as IX

I hated using Quina, Amarant, and Eiko.
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>>333775665
what a fuckin turd, square really tried to cash in on the nostalgia factor while making the most retarded nonsensical story possible, game might as well be ff13
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is it pronounced quinn-uh, kinn-uh, queen-uh, or keen-uh?
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>>333792552
i personally use the first one
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