How come there are no good Zelda rip-offs?
>inb4 dark souls
fuck off
>>333758401
darksiders
Does The Binding of Isaac count as a Zelda rip-off?
>>333758401
Literally every protagonist with a sword in a fantasy setting is more-so a Zelda ripoff
Also 3d dot heroes is influenced by the NES LoZ
>>333758401
Okami?
Darksiders and Okami.
And I guess Starfox Adventures.
>>333758401
Souls series.
You only say fuck off because you haven't played them
Because a ripoff of a shitty game is gonna stay a shitty game.
Most of the games that /v/ claims are Zelda clones aren't even remotely like Zelda. Even Okami is extremely different, it barely has anything resembling dungeons.
![250px-MysticalNinjaStarringGoemon[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RRHlzk0.jpg "250px-MysticalNinjaStarringGoemon[1].jpg")
Also probably the first Mystical Ninja for the N64.
Hyper Light Drifter
Fuck 3D zeldas
>>333758802
Explain how Souls is a Zelda rip-off
>>333758890
>there is only one zelda game
>>333759089
>You get a sword
>You get a shield
>it's open world (but not really, just like Zelda)
>You can roll
>There are puzzles
>There's no jump button
![Legacy_Of_Kain-_Sould_Reaver_Cover[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3Oap39b.jpg "Legacy_Of_Kain-_Sould_Reaver_Cover[1].jpg")
The first Soul Reaver could also fit.
Although it's probably closer to a Metroidvania game.
And if you mean 2D Zeldas, they made a Golden Axe game for the Game Gear that was a pretty blatant knockoff.
>>333759417
Games that do these things existed before zelda. The zelda series in much more about getting items from a series of dungeons and using them for basic puzzles. Souls games focus on combat
![853168-198600_108646_front[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TTt3BTw.jpg "853168-198600_108646_front[1].jpg")
>>333759430
And if we are already in that territory pic related could also fit.
>>333758401
I put 30 hours into Darksiders II before I stopped playing it.
Darksiders
The first Darksiders game was literally Zelda: Edgy Edition.
The second one a bit less so, but it was still enjoyable.
>>333759683
>Games that do these things existed before zelda
name one
>>333759417
you forgot to mention
>zones and dungeons which are punctuated by a boss
>>333759735
I remember having this and trying to play it as a kid but never got anywhere.
Brave Fencer Musashi, it was basically Square trying to make their own Ocarina of Time.
A classic not many played, but still a very solid game all around,
You had a small wakizashi type sword that could steal enemy abilities a la kirby and a big fuck you great sword that could cast elemental spells and even allowed you to fucking FLY near the end of the game,
>>333758401
>>333758401
2D: Alundra
3D: Okami
>>333759683
>The zelda series in much more about getting items from a series of dungeons and using them for basic puzzles.
Only neo-Zelda.
Uncharted is basically Zelda with guns.
>>333759043
>it barely has anything resembling dungeons.
Are you kidding? The ship, the tree area, the entire area where you're in disguise, Oni island was kind of one even if it's mostly just an obstacle course, and then there's the mountainous area where you get helped by the Ammy from the past. You even get upgrades im the form of Celestial Brush techniques in all of them so you can proceed to new portions of the dungeon. It focused more on the overworld and the towns, but that doesn't mean it didn't have dungeons.
>>333758632
>Also 3d dot heroes is influenced by the NES LoZ
That it is to the point they even put a Link face in it. A shame the dungeons weren't that fun though, the overworld was so much more fun.
>>333758401
Oceanhorn?
>>333760049
It's been like that since the start
>>333759061
Goemon's Great Adventure was better
>>333758401
Okami is better than every 3D Zelda.
Alundra is better than every 2D Zelda.
>>333758401
>28 posts
>no Dark Cloud
>>333759829
That game was such a dissapointment compared to the first one.
They basically took everything I liked about the predecessor and replaced it by redundant dungeons and Diabolo style loot.
>having to play through about 5 dungeons in the land of the dead that all have the same fucking necropolis theme
>>333760071
>>333759805
>playing Okami, loving the shit out of it
>brother won't even try it because it was "too weird"
And thus the schism was formed
>>333758401
Zelda is a Minecraft rip off
>>333760102
That trend started with ALTTP, actually
>>333759061
This game plays more like a 3D castlevania. Platforming, simple combat and jumping to dodge, frankly modern Castelvanias have less in common with the 2d iterations.
>>333760087
>FromSoft
Wow, no idea they worked on it
I always wanted to try this game but slowly forgot about it. This was around the time Heavy Rain and Modnation Racers also kept my interest
>>333760162
Well, we aren't discussing the next new character on the Smash roster
>>333758401
Are you talking traditional Zelda, or modern puzzle-ridden Zelda?
>>333760587
Well, it still had an overworld, multiple towns and dungeons with bosses in them.
In the dungeons (or sometimes outside) you would also gain new items, gear or abilities which you had to use to progress further.
>>333760198
I never played the first one and picked up II specifically because I saw it had puzzle dungeons, that loot system, and hack n slash combat. It delivered exactly what I expected.
>>333760686
Honestly, the modern puzzles aren't the problem, it's the lack of evolution in other gameplay methods.
Ittle Dew is a solid rip-off.
It's about 4 hours long and is pretty good. It's not difficult and has a good sense of humour.
>>333759067
yup. best zelda game ive played in a while
>>333760608
You can even get a Moonlight Sword through a really long quest that requires you to go to the From Cave(Picture related) before every dungeon and they tell you about making the game and stuff.
>>333760031
Never got to play the original but I played the PS2 sequel. Always loved the move learning in particular. Oh, and it had impressive MGR death effects for its time.
>>333758401
>inb4 dark souls
Who even makes that comparison?
>>333758401
This is a straight-up Zelda ripoff, and its by another Nintendo character too.
It's great, but has some noticeably cut sections towards the end.
>>333760686
>puzzle-ridden
>modern
ALttP is not a modern game anon.
>>333758401
Okami. Dark Cloud 2. 3D Dot Heroes.
>>333758401
okami is better than every 3D zelda
okamiden is better than every portable zelda
>>333761682
Dark Souls is very obviously inspired in many ways by the original Zelda on NES.
And the combat is strikingly similar to 3D Zeldas.
>>333759417
>lock-on oriented combat
>>333761929
okami isn't even better than darksiders
>>333760940
True I almost forgot about things like the hook shot ripoff.
>>333758512
>>333758713
>>333758747
>>333759805
>>333759843
>>333759829
>>333759874
>>333760036
>>333761929
He said good.
>>333758802
Souls is nothing like Zelda.
>>333761738
That game has such weird pacing.
At first it's fine and although it's a direct Zelda ripoff the environments are really nice and you travel through all of these different landscapes to get to the dungeons.
Then after the second one suddenly it's just dungeon after dungeon with pretty much nothing in between. Then you don't even fight the antagonist and he gets killed off in a fucking cutscene.
>>333759089
>clues only found in obscure messages
>the game just dumps you straight in with no exposition
>advantages to fighting locked or unlocked
>>333761997
It's more like 3D Castlevania honestly.
>>333762049
What is every 3D action game after OoT.
Star Tropics
>>333762532
Thematically I'd agree with you, as well as each action you perform having significant weight on your well-being.
I think it has elements from both.
>>333762361
this
and souls is complete shit compared to zelda anyway
>>333762598
I just don't really see the Zelda comparison at all other than it being an action adventure game with bosses, which are much more like Castlevania bosses than Zelda bosses anyway.
>>333758401
I can name old games.
Crusader of Centy/Soleil, god tier OST and some pretty decent weapons. It's zelda with swords.
Then Landerstalker, somehow it manages to be interesting, but gameplay is shit and repetitive.
>>333759417
>There are puzzles
Are you sure you played a Souls game before?
>>333762819
--> >>333762447
Those top two points are identical to Zelda on NES, it's an undeniable similarity. To argue it's not entirely like Zelda is sane, but to argue it's not like Zelda in any way whatsoever doesn't make sense.
>>333758401
Because Zelda games are so bad that any ripoffs made eclipse it
>>333762974
Bed of Chaos was basically a puzzle.
This game is basically Zelda 2 and a metroidvania mixed together.
This is genuinely an enjoyable action/adventure game that's very similar to Zelda.
Okami and Alundra
>>333760049
This is kinda why I hate Zelda and like Hyrule warriors
Link fucks shit up
In these Zelda's its just fucking puzzles with no difficulty in the game which kinda makes it shitty to replay besides the atomosphere
>darksiders
>good
You fucking what.
>>333762712
It really is. I've played 140+ hours of DaS and SoTFS, but the number one reason I've been playing them is just that they fill the gap for 3D action adventure game with a contiguous world while I wait for a new Zelda and Metroid to come out.
I often take for granted just how well put together Nintendo games are until I go play a game from another company, and it really puts things into perspective.
Okami is boring as shit.
The character's voices are fucking unbearable, and the humor is autistic.
>>333763362
>In these Zelda's its just fucking puzzles with no difficulty
The only Zelda games that are difficult are the first two, and debatably the Oracles games.
>>333762361
>not being able to hide your autism power level
There are many shitty games, OP.
Zelda games are shit.
>>333762976
The thing is, neither of those are uniquely Zelda. In fact those applied to most NES games. Dark Souls does use archaic NES style design, but that doesn't make it like any particular NES game.
>>333763631
What a dumb comment.
>>333758747
>Okami
Oh god, i forgot I had that game! Tiem to fire up my CRT and PS2!
Dark souls kind of struck me as being a bit of a knock-off with some evolved Act Raiser stuff in it, but I like it better than any Zelda Game.
Soul Blazer was bad but serviceable.
Crystalis was superior.
>>333759061
Fun fact: this game was meant to help tidfe over fans until Zelda Ocarina came out. Definitely intended as a knock off.
>>333758401
Darksiders 1/2
Okami
Alundra
3D Dot game heroes
Ok OP, see ya in a few days
>>333758401
any RPG with fetch quests and puzzles is a "Zelda game"
What about this shit? its literally a zelda rip-off
>>333758401
>zelda rip-off
is that you, nintendo-did-it-first kid? still enjoying no video games because of brand loyalty? people still picking on you for saying "why would i play a game that nintendo didnt make, or, [nintendo game] did it first though!" while you sit there playing the same 3 games over and over?
>>333760162
>>333761778
Dark cloud is absolutely nothing like zelda though, it's a JRPG/rougelike
>>333763202
Fuck yeah this game was awesome
>>333764490
How is it? The reviews I'm reading are all over the place from being extremely backtrack heavy with a combat system that is better off just having you spam bombs than actually using your sword to being a better version of Wind Waker, having great graphics, and it handles well.
>>333758401
First Darksiders is fun.
>>333764330
Zelda isn't an RPG, though, retard.
>no good Zelda rip-offs?
What?
Zelda isn't some untouchably fantastic series, most of the games are kinda mediocre honestly, and there are plenty of good, somewhat similar games.
>StarTropics
>StarTropics 2
>Crystalis
>Crusader of Centy
>Beyond Oasis
>Legend of Oasis
>Alundra
>Golden Axe Warrior
>Ys series
>Brave Fencer Musashi
>Beyond Good and Evil
