>GTA 5 map is bigger
>doesnt feel any bigger
Just
it does feel bigger though
>tfw bought it on launch for the PS3 and then they made an improved PS4 version
>tfw I was mad as fuck and felt betrayed by a video game company for the first time in my life
>tfw I will still buy the next GTA game anyway
Sucks being weak-willed
But no, fuck you OP, it does feel bigger
>>333729920
>buying a game at the end of a consoles life
>not thinking they'll rerelease on the next gen
You have only yourself to blame.
>>333730157
Worst part is the online is absolute shit so it's not even worth getting it again
>>333728732
GTA:SA felt pretty big though back in the day, even remembering back to Vice City it felt fucking massive
>>333730323
That year long wait for heists was worth it though, right?
>>333728732
San Andreas is the ultimate map, it actually gave you several different cities with their own feel and a bunch of shit in between.
That new piece of shit has A city and the rest is fucko. If anything the one with Nico felt bigger than the newest one and I hate that fucking game.
I still enjoy the ant size maps of vice city and 3 way more than the newer games
>Tl;dr the series was dead after San andreas
>>333730809
Dropped it day one when German crybabies kept reporting or whatever the equivalent was for blowing their helis the fuck up with the Lazer
GTAV map does feel bigger
Everytime I play it I get reminded of how everything is concentrated to one small area in the game with the rest of the map being barren of content
>>333728732
wow look nothing
digital style
and a digital dancing, hey this is fun
Ok, let's talk about what's REALLY important. How BIG is the next map going to be?
>>333732190
I hope it's smaller and they devote time to actually making things to do in the map.
>things that will never happen in modern open world games
They fucked up by making one relevant city and then some tiny hermit villages. Countryside is so overrated, gta is at its best in dense cities.
>>333729920
They said up front they were going to release next-gen versions. It's your own fault for not reading the announcements before you bought the PS3 version.
>>333733109
I know I made a mistake, but the hype train was so strong, I even gathered up all my friends back from highschool and we all went together to the mall to buy the game and bring pizzas for an afternoon of vidya and food
At least I had some fun
>>333732756
Countryside is great, but it doesn't exist in GTAV. More than half of the map has nothing, what the fuck
>>333728732
this can't be right. i've played the shit out of 5 and SA, and the 5 map doesn't feel nearly as big as SA. is this just some sort of illusion that made SA seem bigger?
>>333731527
welcome to the reality of urban vs. rural environment
Literally the only reason I still play is because of Police mods. LSPDFR is the shit.
>>333733581
>the hype train was so strong
So you'll repeat the same mistake over and over again. The industry relies on rubes like you
>>333734241
Nah, I only got on the hype train because it's motherfucking GTA, that doesn't mean I'll do it again
>>333734347
>because it's motherfucking GTA
You bought a game, ANY game, day one, based on marketing promises. You will do it again, no doubt about it. Next "motherfucking <franchise>" comes along, you'll be out there, buying it, or preordering it, playing it day one, and regretting it a month later. If you're that easily manipulated by marketing and hype, there's no hope for you.
>>333728732
so is the USA in GTA an archipelago?
>>333734559
there are no USA in GTA, and from a game world design point of view, coasts represent natural borders that players are more easily to accept than invisible walls
>>333733731
The fog wall, slower speeds, more immediate variety in the landscapes (as in, the "ghetto" area is only 3 blocks instead of the 20 it is in GTAV).
>>333734526
You're making all these assumptions and I'm telling you I only did it literally ONCE in my lifetime because it was GTA, a series that so far had never failed to deliver fun entertainment.
open world games just become more empty and repetitive the larger they get, where you could be placed at random somewhere and you couldn't tell where you were without looking at the minimap, because it looks the same as every other place
this is why open world is a meme. it's not the size that counts, it's the variety
>>333728732
And witcher 3 is even bigger
>>333733581
you had fun though and got to play earlier
>>333734745
>a series that so far had never failed to deliver fun entertainment
marketing raised you well. They likely appreciate your wallet
>>333734771
now add Elite (1984) to it
>fuckhuge maps with nothing to do in them
What a fucking waste
>>333729920
Pre-ordered both the PS3 and Steam version. hell, I also did it with MGSV. what the fuck is wrong with me?
>>333728732
Just what? If you're referring to the popular meme, you need to caps it.
JUST
like that. You're welcome.
>>333735041
you're impatient and gullible
whats that big green thing on the left side of the Vice City map? I dont remember that being there.
>>333735160
you have more money than brains
>>333735414
Who are you quoting?
>maps get bigger
>amount of content stays the same
the only reason they get bigger is so they can use it in advertisement for the game
San Andreas perfectly combined a well paced story and good map design to facilitate this story. Along with the great supporting characters that fit the narrative like a glove, you progress steadily with sinister forces pushing you from one place to the next as CJ does his best to fight against it and work his way up the food chain. By the time you finish up at San Fierro and Las Venturas you are becoming successful with influential friends and have fingers in many pies, and the long awaited return to Los Santos is satisfying way to finish the epic journey as you come full circle to reclaim your home and destroy its enemies. Along the way you have engaged in gang warfare, battled corrupt cops, infiltrated military installations, uncovered extra terrestrial conspiracies, pulled off jobs for shady government agents, dabbled in Bonnie and Clyde style raids, built up successful businesses and pulled off sophisticated casino heists. That game is the perfect GTA that will probably never be bettered.
>>333735758
It's an excellent story-heavy open world sandbox, but a GTA it ain't. That series ended with GTA 2 and there's no successor in sight. Chinatown Wars tried, but fell short.
>>333735875
What do you mean?
You forgot GTA Advance, that was top-down and in the style of 1/2/London, but I'm not really familiar with it.
it feels bigger when you try and play a online mission or heist and have to drive somewhere for 5 minutes.
>>333728732
I refuse to believe RDR's map is that small.
>>333728732
The more I think about GTA the more I want to buy 4 for PC. 4 was pretty good compared to 5.
The map being bigger doesn't matter if it lacks content. Older GTAs had more content than IV and V, so it doesn't matter the map size because you're busy being entertained.
>>333736706
You're right, I forgot that one. Probably best forgotten. As for what I mean. GTA is an arcade game, free form and free roam car based score chase with missions, a focus on mapless navigation and not much of a story, just enough flavor text to justify the missions. The "story" mattered so little, you were a non-descript gangster and the image only mattered for the score board. Cars were so important, foot navigation leaves you slow and vulnerable and the whole camera was with cars in mind. Ever since GTA III the thing turned into a story delivery with a lot of focus on the foot work, navigational aids and just a tight "direction" for the player. That's cool if you like stories and sandboxes, I suppose. But it's just not the same thing, and I don't think I've seen any game like GTA since.
>>333728732
Bigger doesn't always mean better.
GTA: SA, VC probably has the most memorable areas where so the new GTA has no memorable areas and it just feels pale.
>>333734771
these km/sq estimations seems pretty wrong
Do you like, not live on Earth? This is exactly how it is, cities separated by large chunks of nothing.
Because 30 percent of the map is full of useless forests that have nothing and the other 30 is full of shitty mountains.
Atleast the desert is fun to drive a Bike, but that's it.
>>333734347
Keep telling yourself that. Just know that whatever happens, you have no one to blame but yourself.
>>333737995
You can stop making the same post over and over now
>>333735293
I was wondering that too. There's nothing there in the final release.
>>333728732
>size ≠pleasure
Is a fact.
Negros are just dumb monkeys
>>333728732
It's actually smaller than GTA SA however, they are lying pieces of shit.
I prefer a smaller map that has things to do around every corner than a huge ass map with huge plains of literally nothing.
>>333737368
The formula of a series can change though, although I understand what you mean.
I personally like the formula of 3 and onwards just as much, or even more than I liked 2 and 1.
Most of my nostalgia with the series is with 3/VC, although GTA 2 LAN was fun as heck.
>>333728732
I'd rather have a good small map than miles of empty space.
>>333728732
what the hell is this?
>>333739421
Lol, just noticed it. Probably from some mod.
>>333739421
>He didn't go to Guppy Island and drive the Maibatsu Thunder
>>333734771
> skyrim
There are two reasons skyrim felt huge compared to the much larger GTA V.
The first issue is transportation. Only being able to walk limits the speed of map exploration significantly. You see a difference in the map when you ride a horse and the map becomes scenery you pass by on route to some destination. On foot the world is very intimidating in its scope with miles of terrain to explore and every foot of it can be treacherous. Driving in GTA V removes your interaction with the environment and changes it all to scenery as you speed past it at 80+MPH.
The other reason is depth of the map, meaning the amount to do on the map outside of quests/missions. In GTA you seek out the missions by driving to icons on the map where you are given scripted tasks to accomplish. The amount of individuals who give you missions/quests in GTA is extremely limited and the number of missions available is only about 3 or 4 per individual. In skyrim, the number of quests is staggering with half of the games NPC's giving you some odd objective or another not to mention the different guild/quest storylines that add so much to the game's content. Add the numerous barrows, caves, thieves dens, bandit hideouts, forsworn camps, etc, and the map is truly brought to life giving the player easily 100+ hours of content.
The map in GTAV is big, but lifeless. there are relatively few missions or quests to keep the player interested. There are also very limited number of buildings to explore and secrets/easter eggs to discover. They created a beautiful playground but didn't think to give you any playmates. Even your ability to interact with npc's is severely limited.
>>333739421
lmao
>>333729920
>caring about GTA or any R* title after Les Benzies is gone
No thx
>>333728732
now compare that with arma 3
>>333739294
I'd maybe accept it more if the game was just evolving, but III was a hard cut. Such a hard cut that I left the series behind until SA came along, as it was a whole different genre that didn't interest me. I got and played SA, but not as a GTA game, and haven't touched any of its successors, because despite the massive fun I had with SA, I couldn't shake the feeling it's just a world map with a minigame collection. Well, got to make the exception for Chinatown Wars. I tend to call it GTA 3, because it picks up a lot of elements from the original series.
It's more like Doom suddenly doing Halo gameplay (oh boy), or NFS suddenly doing ricers instead of luxury cars (good thing that didn't happen). You can do it, obviously, but it won't go over well with a large share of players. It worked for GTA, because the games are so very different in gameplay and presentation, lots of GTA fans won't even bother with anything before III. The games are too different. That's not the formula changing throughout the series. That's one series replacing another one.
>>333734347
>Nah, I only got on the hype train because it's motherfucking *videogame*
lmao
>>333728732
That's because you always drive through the highway, there's no reason to stop and there's nothing to be seen in the middle
>>333728732
Because 90% of the game happens in LS and you mostly drive around there, while GTA SA spent a lot of time focusing on different parts.
>>333739991
>post count went up
>poster count didn't
>>333740130
>(48)
He's a new poster, sorry pal.
i played a gmod map called gm_fork which felt huge and the reason that was, was that there weren't any straightforward routes across the map as there are in gta v
>>333734771
That map of TW3 is innacurate because you can only access certain sections of that map.
>>333740261
nice try faget
>>333735875
It's still GTA. It might be 3d and more story driven but the core gameplay is the same. Chinatown Wars was far more story driven that the first 2 games and London.
>>333740358
I don't even know what you're trying to say, but I'm sure you're wrong regardless.
![xml8cvaabd5dorg0umd4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/doDrOJs.jpg "xml8cvaabd5dorg0umd4[1].jpg")
Also consider that Xenoblade Chronicles X was 5x bigger than even GTA 5's map, with each continent still being full of stuff to do.
>>333731361
that's literally no reason to not play it
>>333739421
It's from a mod, GTA:SOL.
![869e944cda[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7mUQh2v.jpg "869e944cda[1].jpg")
>>333734771
I could probably fit in a whole Mercator map and make it smaller than Vice City in that pitcure OP so give me more redible sources than an idiot in paint please.
Also SA always will feel bigger because it was much more diverse. It had desert, it had la vegas, it had forests, it had san francisco, it had grass lands and los angeles. It was on a much smaller scale than V, but 5 is just la and desert
>>333740430
>the core gameplay is the same
Not to me. I can still only talk about 1/2 vs. SA and CTW, but the map alone, I mean, having an ingame map and a minimap, is a huge difference. The strong focus on story vs. simple missions, is also pretty noticeable. The removal of score is sad (I didn't like it in 2 already), and the ability to actually defend yourself quite well on foot is like a real game changer. I agree with you on CTW having quite story driven, and didn't like it that much. It was nice though to find again a bit of a focus on cars, and the old camera with a modest update. The huge amount of minigames bothered me, but that's modern GTA, sadly. So, yes, I do consider CTW a massive step down from GTA 1 and even 2. But it's still closer to GTA than any of the other games with that name. To me, anyway.
What the fuck is that thing left of VC's map?
>>333740832
I should add, it actually bothered me quite massively that CTW had a minimap and navigation system.
GTAV map does feel bigger though. You were just much younger during PS2, so you see it through rose colored glasses. Everything looks bigger when you're a kid.
>>333740925
GTA III, its predecessor
>we will never get a GTA game with IV's driving physics and TECHNOLOGY, SA's sense of humor, and V's graphics and setting
>>333739623
This this this
I don't even think Skyrim is an amzaing game or anything but this
That pic is fucking retarded.
Compare the maps from their airstips.
>>333741048
>wanting cars that control like boats
I never understood why people like the driving in 4.
>>333741174
Consolekiddies got used to it and everything else feels wrong.
>V is bigger
>1 city and some mountains
yeah no.
>>333728732
it feels bigger, but really empty and lacking personality
>>333728732
That's off.
>>333740334
The background map is symbolic, 136km×km is the size of all zones combined, I think
>GTAO
I never played online on IV, and was not expecting just how shitty that would be
>>333728732
RDR felt really big because you're either on foot or horseback.
>>333741048
>SA's sense of humor
I was bored with GTA V after about 2 weeks after launch.
Never looked back since.
It was fun killing in that game, but auto aim had to be turned off
>>333741728
I want to know how much of space that is taken up by water in TW3. Because I distinctly remember a good 3rd of the map is water which is seemingly not counted in the GTA games.
games have to feel alive to not feel empty. gta v is fucking impressive, but there is just not much to do.
>>333742018
Well fuck you, sir, if you don't think the ayy lmao mission and the pot field mission are top tier.
>>333742465
>have to feel alive
>there is just not much to do
The two things are unrelated
I'd be fine with a smaller map if it had an equally-sized interior world, unlike GTA V which had clothing shops and convenience stores. While it's fun to drive around huge urban sprawls, a world with little exploration is pointless in a sandbox game. Scenery can only sustain you for so long.
