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https://youtu.be/GPnTa1UJPEI

"He can't do the voice anymore," they said. "He's been going downhill since MGS2," they said.
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Hayters gonna Hayt
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>>333636374
Strange how the only place I see hayter hate is /v/. It's almost like it's a meme for members to meme while they meme or something
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>>333636663
>members
Stop
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>>333636736
Meant memers

Predictive text is a right cunt
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>>333636374
better than mgs5
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>>333636374
>Hayter can play Snake only when he's shilling for Ford
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>>333636374
>"He's been going downhill since MGS2," they said.
He has. MGS3, Portable Ops, MGS4, and Peace Walker are all proof of that. His performances got worse with each game.
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>>333637307

Did you watch the video?
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>>333636374
Didn't he say it hurts to do the voice and not that he couldn't do it?
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>>333637379
That video while it makes me realize he can do his old voice doesn't change the terrible growlyness that he put into those later games.
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>Shilling a fucking Ford
>Using the only voice range to a character and company that fucked you over
>Calling the Colonel for information on on-site tactical vehicle information

So much faggotry in 30 seconds
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>>333637379
Yes, although the video is irrelevant to the fact that his performances got worse with each game after 2.
But since you want to discuss the video, the clip requires no emotion from him whatsoever and he STILL sounds off.
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>>333637539

Oh yeah, I agree. But its not because of lack of ability. I think he just tried to differentiate Big Boss' voice from Solid Snakes and it came out very strange.
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>>333637989

Voice direction.
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Hayter's in the big leagues now.
http://youtu.be/tDH140dLq5M
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https://youtu.be/ULXsF6QalAI?t=13m30s
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>>333637307
He was good in PW though.
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what the hell

this is an ACTUAL ad from ford, shit is dope
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>>333636374
how are they able to do this
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>>333636374
uuuh
since when is hayter working for konami again!?!?
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>Wolves
>Directed by David Hayter
>Written by David Haytet
>Budget $18 million
>Box office $338,490
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>>333636374

He couldn't do the voice to start with. Gargling on phlegm and yelling while 'whispering' is just sad.

He also sucks as a writer.
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>"A Ford?"
I lost it
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>>333636374
Holy shit
Is this that project that Hayter was showing off about on twitter
That's just straight up sad
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>>333636374
>still can't man up and get over

Christ, he's literally a teenaged girl.
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That was amazing.
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>>333637379
He sounds like he's barely trying at all, dude
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>>333637495
No. It's the shit gruff voice that the idiot Japs wanted him to do that he doesn't like
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>>333638285
Well at least Nolan North(Nathan Drake's VA) beat David Hayter(Snake's VA) first on commercials like this since that Uncharted 3 Subway commercial was in 2011 while that MGS Ford commercial was this year.
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>>333639540
I know he's contributing to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdyIAmkTguE
This could have been an actual MGS remake but the fags at konami said NO so they decided to make a fan-art museum in the game instead

Such a shame
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>>333640076

>It's the shit gruff voice that the idiot Japs wanted him to do that he doesn't like
So basically, the Japanese wanted him to try and sound like the original voice for Snake. And instead he wants to sound more like himself, because he thinks he 'is' Snake.

In other words, he's a shit voice actor who doesn't know what voice acting even is.
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>>333640503
You literally have it backwards. The original Snake voice is easy for him to do, and it's the voice that fans love. The Peace Walker voice is what he doesn't like doing, it's the voice most virgins here hate. And it's the voice the Japs at Kojipro forced him to do.
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>>333636841
>not just literally turning off autocorrect right out of the gate
>using predictive text without reading what you're agreeing to say
>not proofreading

Stupid twat
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>>333641115

The point is that his original voice for Snake isn't anywhere close to Akio Otsuka. And so the Japanese producers tried to get him to do something closer, which he was incapable of doing. In this case, it was the right decision to change voice actors. Though their replacement wasn't good either.
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>>333636374
that was pretty funny
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>>333641527
>The point is that his original voice for Snake isn't anywhere close to Akio Otsuka. And so the Japanese producers tried to get him to do something closer, which he was incapable of doing. In this case, it was the right decision to change voice actors.

Hayter isn't Japanese, and Japanese isn't comparable to the English language. Including pitch and emphasis on words and overall speaking.

This still is nothing more than the Japanese being arrogant and failing to understand the western market.

There's no reason a western voice actor should ever try to replicate a Japanese actor speaking Japanese, when the language their voicing over is completely different
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>Solid Snake using a Fulton
>ever
>making sure to repeat exactly what Colonel shilled toâ„¢ theâ„¢ veryâ„¢ detailâ„¢
What a fucking sellout. They can be less obvious about it.
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>>333642593
It's a fucking commercial, dipshit. Of course they're going to shill whatever they want to sell.
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>>333636374
Will this actually air on TV?
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>>333642213

>Hayter isn't Japanese, and Japanese isn't comparable to the English language. Including pitch and emphasis on words and overall speaking.
Emphasis on words is different, but you can match the pitch and tone of characters just fine. Most western dubs don't do it because most western voice actors suck at it. And because western culture doesn't prefer girls to have super high pitched voices.

But when it comes to Snake, the original actor spoke in a very low, very monotone way. Which is exactly what the west likes in a guy. Hell, Vin Diesel has made a career out of it. But Hayter just can't do that type of voice. As well as being a bad actor.

>This still is nothing more than the Japanese being arrogant and failing to understand the western market.
Most of the dubs were not overseen by Kojima or anyone else in Japan. So the voice you have grown to love in MGS1-3 wasn't chosen by the Japanese side at all. It was chosen by the middle man dubbing company.

Japan did start caring about the dub with Peace Walker and MGSIV. And they just realized what I pointed out above. That Hayter doesn't fit the role.

>There's no reason a western voice actor should ever try to replicate a Japanese actor speaking Japanese, when the language their voicing over is completely different
By that logic, we shouldn't have dubs at all. When we can just have the original voice and subtitles. But since plenty of people hate reading subtitles and plenty of western people are afraid of anything outside of their own language, dubs become necessary.

But its stupid to claim that the dubbed voice can't be close to the original in tone and acting style. The dubbing groups just didn't even try. Even going as far as drastically changing the script.
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>>333642593
It's a commercial you fucking dip
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>>333642593
are you actually retarded?
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>>333636374
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>>333642213
He does speak Jap though
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>>333642213

Japanese tend to be very fucking stubborn to flat out realize they are wrong. See:

>Sakurai
>All of Capcom
>Square Enix

It's their thing now- almost a trademark- to do shit wrong.
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I think Hayter voice is perfect as Snake but the was a poor performance, His voice kept breaking up, It sounded very amateurish tbqhfam.
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>>333643278
Holy shit all those spelling mistakes, Sorry guys I've been bobbing my hands and head like an indian to Savage Garden - I Want You ever since the last episode of JoJo aired .
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>>333636374

>a video that is literally shilling
>not disliked to oblivion

I will never understand
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>Kojima faggots BTFO
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>>333643482
it's a commercial. They're not trying to disguise it as anything else.

Stop trying to fit in faggot.
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>>333636374
I don't even know how to respond to this.
I have so many questions.
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>>333636663
>>333636962
>>333637307
>>333640503
>>333642593
>>333643482
>>333643672
>mfw
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>>333642213
Akio Otsuka is basically Jokerish/Hamill Voice

This might be a stretch, but if they'd gone with hamill instead of chief kief, there would be a better Snake and more Hoolywood flair.

He can go deep and raspy too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4LUasFly0c

For what purpose?
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>>333644071
OK the first one I didn't mind but that was cringy as fuck
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>>333643946

>Akio Otsuka is basically Jokerish/Hamill Voice
Uh...not at all? Joker has a very high pitched, comical voice. Akio Otsuka is one of the deepest voices out there. Like James Earl Jones on steroids.
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>>333636374
David, please retire.
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>>333638917
The movie's reviews are not too bad
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>>333644071
This. What the fuck is going on? The general public has no idea what Metal Gear even is.
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>>333644071
I liked the colonel one but this is pretty terrible
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>>333636374
>"He's been going downhill since MGS2," they said.
It seems weird anyone would think this. MGS3 is often considered the best of the series, and his voice work on MGS4 really sold the concept of "Old Snake".

>>333644071
Who the fuck is doing Psycho Mantis' voice? It's shite.
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>Kojima becomes the next Inafune

looking forward to that damage control on the drones part
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>>333636374
but thats true, he is overdoing its since snake eater
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>But snake, that technology hasn't been used since 1984!

FUCKING BTFO
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Wow. What a great move by Fordâ„¢. I really think I'll go buy a new Fordâ„¢ Focusâ„¢ SEâ„¢.
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>>333645041

The damage control has been going on ever since Hayter was overlooked for MGSV. Not to mention how shit Watchman turned out.

He's been given tons of chances in multiple industries. And it says a lot that his most well known and popular role is still redubbing a Japanese voice.
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>>333642593

Did you bitch when Snake could use CQC in MGS4?
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>>333636374
TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN
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>>333636374
what is this
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>>333645318
>being a cuck means you're a demon
Better stop going for those committed relatinoships /v/ less you go to hell
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Do you spergs scream "shill" every time there's a commercial break on TV? Jesus Christ.
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>>333645583
>relatinoships
I need a drawfag to make this into a Donald Trump joke
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>>333645717
Hey. There's no need to call out the Fordâ„¢ Focusâ„¢ SEâ„¢. We're not Shills, Go- I mean sir.
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>>333645000
He was pretty bad in peacewalker but again that's mostly because he was forcing himself to do that super gruff voice. If they just let him use Snake's typical voice it would be fine. A person's voice doesn't immediately become gruff and raspy when they turn 40.
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This is like advanced shilling. It's using a dated game in a dead series and literally anything Hayter does with MGS at this point just makes me remember the breakdown on Twitter that ended up not being a ruse at all, just a sad man losing his shit because of video games.
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The fact that he did an official advertisement with a character that belongs to Konami implies that he still does work for them, however minor. Maybe he'll get to be in mgs6.
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>>333645875

>He was pretty bad in peacewalker but again that's mostly because he was forcing himself to do that super gruff voice.
He's been forcing himself to do a 'gruff' voice since the very first game. And even in the first game, it was very inconsistent. Sometimes it sounded like he was literally hacking on mucus. Other times, there was no change to his voice at all (usually when he was pretending to whisper on codec).
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Cool shit,
Sadly there will never be another MGS related product with Hayter´s Acting and the feeling of MGS1 or 2.
Konami and Kojima both doomed the franchise for all eternity , and hayter sadly will get shitposted to death by bandwagoning kiddies trying hard to fit in.
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>>333645000
>Who the fuck is doing Psycho Mantis' voice? It's shite.

Agreed. That didn't sounded like Doug Stone at all.
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>>333646085
Agree to disagree I guess.
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>>333643180
Why are you listing Square-Enix?

They admitted they were wrong with FFXIV, gave out an apology and entirely remade the game listening to fan feedback and apologised again and gave loyal customers extra shit.

They have also released early demo's of FFXV and listen to fan feedback again and make changes.

Square-Enix is not "stubborn" nor do they never admit mistakes.
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>>333645717
/pol/ handed the word to newfags as a starterpack, they don't actually know what it means.
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So that video is proof he can do the voice just fine..

So why did he sound like Batman dying of throat cancer since MGS 3, 4, and Peace Walker?
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DRIVING

IN A FORD
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>>333646670
Big boss had a gravelier voice to differentiate from Solid Snake

Then Old snake had a pack-a-minute voice because he was dying

It turns out the voice doesn't stretch that far for hours at a time
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>>333646670
Kojima forced him to do it to fit in with the character he was imagining i supposed
He was a hack and instead of hiring someone else he used what he had in hand.
Kojima is the true hack here. both him and konami ruined the series progressively
After MGS3 everything went downhill with Kojima trying to copy whatever hot game or genre was popular
PW = Monster Hunter
MGSV = Open World Meme / GTAV you could say.
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But they never said that he couldn't do the voice anymore, they said his range was pathetic which it is.
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>>333646371

>Square-Enix is not "stubborn" nor do they never admit mistakes.
>Squaresoft almost killed their company because of pride and needed a merger with Enix to bail them out
>Put the same guy in charge of the combined company that ran Squaresoft into the ground
>after the merger, the Square side killed of 90% of their IPs to focus more on Final Fantasy
>wouldn't greenlight a third Chrono game despite Chono Cross having huge praise and a DS port of Chrono Trigger selling a million copies
>blocked dozens of Dragon Quest games from leaving Japan with no explanation
>drove away all their top talent except Masato Kato and Yuji Horii, one of which they regulated to writing low budget Mana and FF games
>put the entire future of the company behind Toriyama and Nomura
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>>333646871
>listing things that happened years ago
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>>333646808
>hurr I want to play the exact same game every sequel
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>>333646670
In 4 it was actually the "right", perfect one for Snake: he was old, dying, and smoke a cigarette every two seconds.

That type of hoarse, gurgling voice is the same many old people who have been smoking for their whole life have.
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>>333646808

MGSV was inspired by Red Dead Redemption. Right down to the setting, parts of the story and use of the horse. And Kojima didn't hide it at all. Pointing out that RDR was his favorite recent game in multiple interviews.
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>>333646957

You listed FFXIV, which the seeds of that bad decision began over 10 years ago. You also said they 'never' not admit mistakes. Which implies over their entire history.
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>>333646962
You missed the point.
Both PW and MGSV could´ve been actual decent games if it wasn´t for kojima´s boner for copying whatever popular game was at the time.

>>333647090
I mentioned GTAV because that was the most recent Open world game at the moment and kojima tweeted about this too. Not saying he copied it specifically. He still went for the Open world mind which we know everyone abused in the last year of two.
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we'll make diamonds from their asses

take them into racing with us

Ford Focus SE
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I'm getting Twin Snakes flashbacks here
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Oh shit they made a TDKR one too
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>>333646957
They deserve those remainders and insults tho.

We will never play the dq theathrythm or the 3ds dqmonsters except for MAYBE joker3 due to those aforementioned things.
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>>333647454

This. Just how they have handled Dragon Quest alone can put SquareEnix on the top 3 list of worst gaming companies out there. All their other horrible decisions just puts them over EA and Activision.

SquareEnix is effectively the new Konami.
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>>333647260
>MGSV wasn't a decent game meme
and PW was fine as a handheld title
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what the fuck, do Ford just make these short little commercials for every possible demographic out there?
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>>333648026

This is the same company that made multi-million dollar projects just to make a handful of unique cars only owned by their CEOs and shown off at car shows.
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>>333637539
Blame the localization director for instructing him to do that.
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He sounds pretty similar to his MGS2 voice at least.

You fuckers who said that he's terrible in PW are retarded. I still think most people who say Hayter did a shitty job simply haven't actually played the game, only heard the ending speech and jumped on the bandwagon.

Kojima's a hack given how fucking retarded Act 1 of MGSV was. Kiefer partially ruined MGSV by completely ridding it of any atmospheric moments.

So fuck right off.
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So this pretty much confirms Konami has rehired Hayter for MGS6, right?
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>>333646808
>instead of hiring someone else he used what he had in hand

>wanted to hire fucking Kurt russell for MGS3 to play Big Boss
>hayter threw a bitch fit and had to re-cast himself because he got taken off

>kojima had been trying to replace hayter since MGS2 as he didn't want him to play Big Boss.
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>>333648483
I for one PRAY that theres no announcement from konami at this years E3, theres gonna be a hell of a bloodshed if that happens.
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>>333648483
No, just for the MGS1 remake
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Automobile maintenance is relentless, Raziel.

When I first purchased this Ford Focus SE, centuries ago, I did not fathom the true power of the 100,000 miles drive-train warranty. To know the future, Raziel, to see that the timing belt must be replaced at 80,000 miles... as a man, I could never have contained such forbidden truths. But each of us is so much more than we once were. Gazing out across the plains of possibliity, do you not feel with all your soul how we have become Ford owners? And as such, are we not indivisible? So long as a single one of us qualifies for 2.7% APR financing, we are legion!

And that is why, when Ford offers the 2016 Focus SE starting at just $18,515, I can make no down payment with a clear heart.
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>>333648740
Eh?
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>>333648483
>Konami has rehired
>MGS6

wew lad
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Konami made MGS will be safe as fuck and played by the books, if it ever happens.

So who really gives a fuck? How bad can it really be? Do you think they'll also sink half the budget on Kiefer or write about retarded vocal chord parasites?
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>>333648740
Amazing
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>>333648829
>he doesn't know

They confirmed they're still making MGS games. Without Kojima.
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>>333636374
How the fuck hasn't Konami shut this down already? I know it's unlisted but the fact that they did it without their approval makes it seem like a lawsuit could be coming thanks to Hayter's inability to let go.
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>>333648740
5/5
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>>333648740
What I have bought, I can also refund, Raziel.
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>>333648829

It's obviously in development and Konami wouldn't dare to spend the money for Kief again.
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>>333648981
r u dum
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>>333648893
Kojima may be a hack, but he still knows gameplay, whatever mgs6 would be, it would never be as good gameplaywise.
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>>333647905
Yeah , as a a handheld its fine. It should´ve been a spin off like the ACID series, but a main metal gear game?
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>>333648026
It's one of the first traditional corporations attempting to harness Meme Magic.
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>>333648981
>without their approval

Yes, a multi-billion company decided to be a traditional youtube hack and "steal" someone's content instead of asking the company.
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>MGS is the new Assassin's Creed
Just make pachinkos Konami please.
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>>333649113
Kojima had nothing to do with Ghost Babel, and it plays all right. One example.
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>>333649162
>one of the largest corporations on the planet would publish an ad completely utilizing someone else's Intellectual Property
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Queefer was a mistake, objectively.
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You cucks do know the old man voice is because of the voice directors right
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>>333649424
Dog, you don't think they asked Konami and they said yes?
Do you see the Star Wars commercials and say "WOW HOPE DISNEY DIDN'T SEE THAT!" ?
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>>333649596
S-Shut up Baka!
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>>333649596
>Kris Zimmerman, one of the best voice directors of all time, giving such shit direction

Yeah, no. Hayter even admitted it in a fucking MGS podcast when MGS4 was being made. You fucking plebs are trying desperately to see anything good in this guy, but he's honestly fucking garbage and petty.
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>>333649162
Why is it unlisted? How come there aren't any Konami logos? Why did they take down that fan project with Hayter volunteering his voice? Oh wait that one may have happened when Kojima was still at Konami.
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>>333649757

>no source

you're just desperate to see anything bad in him
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>>333649757
Didn't Hayter try to actually change the direction of the game? Like he wanted Kojima to kill off Snake that would have been a decent change not including other stupid shit?
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>>333649897
you're just desperate to see anything good in him
>it must be someone else's fault

what about your sources?
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>>333649954
No he said Kojima should have went with Snake killing him like Kojima even had the control to. In that same interview he also said he had massive respect for Kojima. We all know how he feels about him now.
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>>333649795
>unlisted videos can never be found

It's currently on the most popular image board in the world.

Fan project was a fan project, has nothing to do with anything and is Konami protecting their IP, which is fair. This isn't trying to one-up their game or ruin their image or brand in any shape or form. It's an advertisement in the style of their game.

>>333649897
>>333649954
They both wanted Snake dead at the end of MGS4 because Kojima wanted to focus on BB. So in the end it made no difference.

To the one asking for source, I don't remember if it was Kojipro or some special gamespot podcast, but it featured Hayter, Zimmerman and a few other special guests, discussing his voice in the trailers for the game.

He mentioned that he's dying, and his voice is gravelly and deteriorating "in a new direction I felt the character needed".

Hayter wasn't even going to be in MGS3+4, Kojima tried to hire out some other people, but he threw such a bitchfit and tried to get himself recasted.

>could have had Kurt Russell as BB in MGS3
Fucking wasted.
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>>333649954
http://www.1up.com/news/anime-expo-david-hayter-critical
>hack screenwriter talks shit about kojima's story every step of the way, surprised dude doesn't like him and wants to replace him
whether kojima's story is shit or not that is probably not the best idea

>He did mention that MGS3 and MGS4 had fewer script issues than the first two games, and he now has more power to veto particular lines.
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>>333650441
>pay for the license to use the characters
>don't use any of the iconic music
>don't showcase the company who made the game
>unlisting a commercial so only fans of the game will see and know about it
>the same fans that know Hayter's ass wasn't rehired for the latest installment

Yeah brilliant marketing here.
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>>333650859
Hayter probably approached them. He's in other commercials, pitched the idea that he's "BELOVED BY THE GAMING COMMUNITY", despite him being hated.
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>>333650471
>"I didn't agree with that at all, and I begged them to change it, but I think it's still in the final game," he said. "I didn't buy it at all. I think it's weak for Snake to be killing other people and then not be able to kill himself when it's time. If he knows it's time, then it's time."

This classic line right here just shows how much of an ego Hayter has. He's just the voice actor for the english version of the game. Why the fuck would the developers care about his input? I can definitely see why Kojima was so eager to can his ass.
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>>333651095
It's because he's a "big" writer, so of course he knows the character better.
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>>333649757
>Kris Zimmerman, one of the best voice directors of all time

you really can't believe that after the shit direction quinton flynn got in MGS2

And not bringing back Cam Clarke for MGS4 was a goddamn disgrace, even if it made sense storyline-wise
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>>333636374
>muh voice actors

seriously nigger?
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>>333651264
He didn't get shit direction, Raiden was literally supposed to be Snake from MGS1, campy voice lines and all. It was perfect for the setting and the story.
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>>333651264
They only did that in the Japanese version of the game because Ocelot's VA died.
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People have known this for years. He' showcased all the different Snake voices many times in multiple interviews and shorts.
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He can't go downhill because he's already six feet underground.
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>>333650952

Hated? Please.
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If MGSV was any indication, I trust Konami more with the property solo than I would with Kojima. Good luck to them.
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>>333651095

Why do people think there was some beef between him and Kojima? Where are they getting this from? Why am I still posting on this website?
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>>333652467
Was sympathetic to the guy when he got removed from MGSV, hated Keif until I heard him.

Hayter didn't need to be BB, at all and I am so fucking thankful they switched him.

Having Hayter in MGSV would have been the worst fucking thing ever, didn't suit the direction in PW, barely suited it in 3.
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>>333652585
pretty sure kojima doesn't think about the guy at all
can't say the same for the opposite
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>>333650103

you're just desperate to see anything bad in him
>it must be someone else's fault

>what about your sources?

see op
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>>333654204
where are your sources that it was the director?
didn't you see all the interview where hayter himself said he wanted to change specific things? He even had some pull to veto the writer's dialogue, what makes you think he doesn't have pull to determine how the character sounds like?
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>tfw no John Cygan as Big Boss
>tfw no Tom Waits as Old Snake
>tfw no Laura Bailey as Raiden
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>>333655462
>Laura Bailey as Raiden

Raiden being a sexy girl probably would have redeemed his whole character for me

Literally all they would have to change is give him a bit of chest and some eyeliner, then bam.
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>>333655005

why hire a guy as a director if you don't want him to do his job?
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>>333655684
Fug, I need this....
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>>333655684
that works perfectly, it would make his more emotional side a lot more believable too

but what about rose? does this mean she's a lesbian?
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>>333655689
http://mp.i-revo.jp/user.php/kp-ryan/entry/79.html
listen to this and get BTFO
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>>333656859
Nope. Just change her to the clingy, somewhat creepy boyfriend Ross. Also works pretty well.
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*************
PICK ONE
*************

David Hayter as Snake
--OR--
Mark Hamill as The Joker

The one you don't pick gets replaced with an inferior voice actor.
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>>333657179
How do you get inferior to Hayter?
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>>333657253
'sup
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>>333644071
>>Doesnt ask me to put my controller on the ground.
Dropped.
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36 MPG a good thing?

Wut
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>>333657253
SHE SHURFIFED?!?!
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>>333644502
And when they told Hayter to go deep to try and match it, that's when western audiences thought his voice was going bad. Again, the Japanese did not understand that two different, two different languages = two different voices and tones, dumb Japs.
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>>333657702
36 MPG is pretty good but my 2005 Nissan Sentra gets 40 MPG.
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>>333649113
>Knows gameplay
>After the hot mess that was MGSV's open world

Nope.
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>>333657179
But Hayter already got replaced by Sutherland.
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I never really cared about Hayter, but I think him being a little bitch for the past 3 years is more than a little retarded and he just needs to let go. People like to say Kojima has a big ego, but Hayter honestly matches him (if not more) since he literally thinks of himself AS SNAKE when to Kojima, the real Snake was always Akio.

Also, I liked Kiefer's acting in MGSV. The trailers were kinda shit, but he can do emotional scenes very well and his range shows in the quiet nuance that Hayter has never been able to do.
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>>333659456

>all this head canon

It was real in my mind!
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>>333657179
Hayter as Snake

Troy Baker's Joker was decent enough. So was Dimaggio's
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>>333645583
He just wants to go even deeper
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>>333657179
Hayter got replaced by a superior voice actor, so I pick Hamill
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>>333659618
Except Hayter really does think of himself as Snake/BB. He's always going on about it in his tweets and you can even see it during his interviews:
>>333650471
>>333651095

Like I said, if he'd taken this more gracefully I'm sure more people would be sympathetic, but he's been throwing a bitchfit and waging a PR war against Kojima for years when I doubt Kojima even cares.
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>>333658757

That's aweful for a new car. It's certainly not something to boast about.

Or are the American car stereotypes true....
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>>333657179
literally both iconic voices that can't be replaced
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>>333648740
I can hear him in my head
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>>333658540
If you listen to the interview linked earlier. He talks about how HE came with with the voice and what old snake and big boss should sound like you deluded fan boy
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ITT: Desperate newfags trying ultra hard to fit in with the Hayter hate meme.
He's a shitty leftist as a person, I give you that, but you are beyond retarded for not separating a man from his work.
Also voice director for Peace Walker was inept and that's a well known fact.
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>>333657179
Hayter as Snake
There is no good voice substitute for Snake, while Joker has a perfect replacement in form of Troy Baker which sounded like a younger Hamill Joker.
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>>333661903
>for not separating a man from his work
Like all those tweets he made about being dropped for MGSV

He's a man completely removed from his work and should be treated as such. Yep.
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>>333661903
>separating a man from his work

Too bad his work is shitty as well.
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>>333651385
At some point /v/ is going to have to admit that not every shitty part of MGS2 was a brilliant post-modern subversion instead of just being a shitty part.
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>>333661998
You retrards keep saying he's a shit Snake because of his temper tantrum and his leftist views. Who gives a shit, when his voice was perfect.

>>333662075
Keep up the good meme, memester.

And on that note I'm out since neo/v/ is pure cancer trying so hard to fit in that it physically hurts.
Enjoy your shitposting thread.
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>>333662142
Keep defending Hayter faggot. You must be one of the few that still like him after all this time. I'm honestly surprised after all of this bitching that he still has any fans left on here.
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>>333659895
I mean, that depends on the kind of cars you're comparing.
Six cylinder or four?
A fun car or a cardboard box with wheels like most Brits tend to get?
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>>333661724
This. Why do Hayterfags keep scapegoating the voice director when it's all him? You don't see Kieferfags saying it was the fault of the voice director.
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>>333662295
>Caring about twitter drama
Jesus dude, just let it go. Some people like his perfomance, some don't.
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>>333648483
No.
Hayter did some voicework for a non-vidya related shill video, then I figure he went maximum overshill and pitched the marketing company to do MGS-themed commercials. Ford then negotiated with Konami for the rights to use MGS material. Hayter than managed to snag a few extra jobs out of this and "be" Snake again.

Make no mistake, MGS is dead and will never return except in pachinko form or something (which will be voiced by Otsuka only obv)
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>>333662705
>Jesus dude, just let it go.
Maybe he should let it go first :^))
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>>333662793
I'm talking about his work as a voice actor, not e-celeb drama. You seem to care more about that than the actual videogames
>:^))
So you're just shitposting then
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>>333662891
I'm not even that guy, I'm just saying that expecting us to let it go when he clearly can't is silly.

And if you want me to judge him purely for his VA work, he was awful from MGS3 onwards.
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>>333662705
Even if you exclude the twitter drama, you can't ignore the fact that he's still doing PR interviews, podcasts and shit like this. I'll let it go when he does but seeing how long he has dragged this on, I doubt it will be anytime soon.
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oh lol NBGO BTFO
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>>333663041
>>333663158
>And if you want me to judge him purely for his VA work, he was awful from MGS3 onwards.
I actually agree with that, and yes he's a bitch. But this whole "stop liking what I don't like" and "Hayter has been shit since the dawn of time" is getting old
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>>333642593
>what is a commercial
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>>333655684
Unfortunately one of the biggest reasons behind Raiden's creation was that Kojima wanted to attract horny Japanese school girls to the game. Female Raiden was never meant to be.
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>>333636374
Pffft, Hayter thinks he can compete with the stud that is Lex Lang.
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>>333645717
Of course. It's my god given duty to call out shills for what they are.
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>>333664148
This whole "Kojima recast me and I can't let go of the fact that I'm not Snake anymore" is getting old too.
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>>333664779
Good thing that's restricted to his twitter account and not in-game dialogue then
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>>333636374
he stopped crying, they said
it's only been 5 years of buttmad, they said.
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>>333665041
Does OP's video look like his twitter account, m8?
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>>333665390
Is OP's video in a MGS game?
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>>333665495
>E-celeb thread
>We're not allowed to judge people for being shitty people

Like I said, he's fucking awful as a VA and seems like an egotistical douchebag in real life. No wonder he and Kojimbo didn't get along - two egos can't co-exist.
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Based Otsuka does it again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGfTHBKQeko
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>>333648740
GOLD
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>Konami allowed Hayter to voice Snake once again
Sutherland/Kojima fags btfo
MGS5 confirmed not canon
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>>333638917
JUST
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>>333636374
what the fuck is this
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Chief Kief does a better 50 year old man voice.
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