Duke Nukem 3D > Shadow Warrior > Blood
Shadow Warrior 2013 > Blood 2 > Duke Nukem Forever
Prove me wrong, /v/.
>>333626890
Why would I disprove the truth?
WHO BEST DUKE?
Blood has better weapons though
>>333626890
Blood > DN3D > Shadow Warrior
Here, the literally non-shit opinion.
>>333628087
This tbqh famalam
>>333626890
I cant, you win OP
>>333626890
Serious Sam>all that shit
>>333628087
Fucking this, eat shit OP.
>>333628087
DN3D has a jetpack. Blood does not.
Therefore DN3D>Blood
>>333628274
SS has lazier level design though
HERE COMES THE KNOT
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>>333628325
Better than Shadow Warrior 2013's
>>333628483
Just wait for the release date, i guess
Why do I enjoy custom maps for Doom more than I enjoy those for Duke3D, even if I enjoy the vanilla versions of both roughly the same?
Blood beats Shadow Warrior, but otherwise yes.
Its sometimes hard to rank them because one will always have something the other doesnt, unlike with DOOM, Quake and Wolfenstein
I've not actually played Blood yet but Duke Nukem is definitely better than Shadow Warrior. Not to say the latter isn't great.
>>333627958
Middle.
>>333629048
A lot more talent working on custom Doom maps than Douk maps.
>>333628483
2016
>>333629428
Doom > Quake > Wolfenstein
>>333630479
This: Doom is more fun to play, Quake has better level design and Wolfenstein hasnt aged well
As someone who doesn't care much for DOOM, but loved Shadow Warrior '13, what other shooters should I play?
Blood looks kind of neat, but kind of similar to DOOM.
>>333631045
i heard good things about the new rise of the triad
>>333630670
>Quake has better level design
>>333631045
Blood and Doom are nothing like each other.
>>333631353
oh, i had fun with it though
>>333631353
doesn't change the fact that the quake campaign is still more consistently fun than the doom campaign
>>333631045
Blood/Duke/SW look similar to Doom, but only on a superficial level.
They have way more complex... pretty much everything. Doom is a lot more basic, neutral and mazey compared to them (but that isn't necessarily a bad thing, for most people. Doom is still considered one of the best FPS for a reason).
>>333628284
You can play football woth zombie's heads in Blood.
Therefore, Blood>DN3D
>>333631820
that's only because id had already moved on from 2.5 engines to working on quake while the imitators were playing "dress up the old technology" for their games
>>333631045
SW'13 was more of a Serious Sam clone than anything else.
I'd check out the Serious Sam and Painkiller games, though they are rather hit and miss
>>333632134
Shadow Warrior has in-game cameras, derivable vehicles, ladders, etc, etc. Quake didn't.
>>333632809
this isnt a drawthread
Blood > Duke 3D > Shadow Warrior
Blood easily wins because it has the best weapons in terms of balance, creativity and actually being fun to use, the coolest aesthetic, amazing gore and environment destruction, the most challenge and the best level design. It also takes itself seriously enough to have a very spooky atmosphere in addition to being goofy as hell. Duke's fun but too easy, the guns are either generic or interesting but unfun to use (Shrinker is the worst idea for a gun). Shadow Warrior's level design is a nightmare and you pretty much have to play each level at least twice to actually enjoy it. All of the games are great though.
>>333632490
>>333626890
Huh, just realised Bloodborne is kinda of a successor to Blood.
>>333633065
Fuck you buddy, the shrinker was awesome in multiplayer and it produced al those "you must shrink yourself to advance" puzzle in the levels.
>>333628007
Mighty Boot/Foot > Pitchfork
Pistol < Flaregun
Douk Shotgun > Blood Shotgun
Ripper > Tommy Gun
RPG = Napalm Launcher
Pipe Bombs = Dynamite
Devastator > Tesla Cannon
Freezethrower > Leech Life
>>333633750
but atleast the guns in blood have alt fires
>>333633065
>coolest aesthetic
If you're 15.
>amazing gore and environment destruction
All the games have that.
>the most challenge
It's actually the easiest.
>best level design
Most forgettable you mean.
>>333632316
Serious Sam 3 is very good, although the first four levels start off really damn slowly.
>>333633750
>Douk Shotgun > Blood Shotgun
that's one of the most incorrect opinions I've ever seen.
>>333626890
Eh, personally I like Shadow Warrior the most but I won't deny it has a lot of problems.
All 3 are good games though.
>>333634127
Douk's shotgun is good at all ranges and looks cooler.
>>333633864
>If you're 15.
As opposed to 12 if you prefer Duke and Shadow Warrior?
>All the games have that.
When's the last time you bounced around an enemy head like a football in Duke or Shadow Warrior? How about exploding an enemy into chunks and then exploding each individual chunk into small chunks?
>It's actually the easiest.
Bullshit, especially considering the fact that you basically have to play each episode without dying on the Extra Crispy.
>Most forgettable you mean.
Oh yes because grey military bases and space ships in Duke are so memorable. Shadow Warrior has more memorable levels, but the problem is that they're laid out in such an awkward way that they have no flow to them until you know exactly what you're doing.
>>333634513
>When's the last time you bounced around an enemy head like a football in Duke or Shadow Warrior? How about exploding an enemy into chunks and then exploding each individual chunk into small chunks?
SW did both of those before Blood.
>>333634127
Duke's shotgun is awesome though. You probably can't shoot properly.
>>333634621
Are you playing a different game or something? No it didn't.
Which game do you think has the best quotes? I think SW, just because I love the accent.
>>333634513
>Duke
>military bases
It's like you've never played the game. Duke is filled with urban environments like restaurants, movie theaters, flooded cities, and subway stations. It's Impossible and Area 51 are the only military bases out of 30+ levels. Then there's the space levels and alien hive levels, for extra variety.
This expansion alone makes Duke the best.
>>333635097
Best expansion ever made.
What did people expect from Duke Nukem Forever, anyway?
The Duke has always been reminiscent of whatever style is popular at the time (side-scrollers, DOOM, etc). Just because it changed with the times doesn't mean it was bad. I actually liked the levels where you were tiny, my only complaint with the game was the driving.
>>333626890
>We'll never have a 90's FPS cinematic universe where Douk, Caleb, Doomguy, BJ and Shadow Warrior unite every couple of years to fuck shit up
Just kill me senpai
>>333634626
Feel aside, it only has one firing mode. Blood's shotgun has two firing modes each with its own unique set of properties. The primary fire is good for long distance combat because of its accuracy, low ammo consumption and stagger while the alt fire's great for when you get close up. That's already far more depth than what Duke has.
>>333634930
Depends on your taste.
Action movies, horror movies, Kung fu flicks. Whatever you prefer, there's a game for it.
>>333635136
I feel the alt fire in Blood is pretty useless since it fires so instantly before reloading anyway. Compared to Duke where every shot takes a second.
>>333635136
>>333635334
I think we can all agree that the Riot Gun is the worst shotgun in the Build engine games.
>>333635334
It's really not useless when playing on higher difficulties. It destroys enemies with more health and is very useful for taking out cultists quick before they have a chance to fuck your shit up.
>>333635097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo6LJ3EheA4
>>333635479
Fuck no.
>That range
>That four-motherfucking-rapid-shot alt-fire
It's Godly. Maybe even the best.
>>333635849
>Riot Gun
>range
Shit spreads so god damn much, it's useless unless your inside the guy's asshole.
>>333628325
Serious Sam was never about level design
>>333635806
YOUR ASS IS GRASS AND I'VE GOT THE WEED WHACKER
>>333636390WOOHOO
>>333636484
MMMMMM I like mine sunny side up
>>333636683
You're blocking my Sun, ass whipe
>>333635849
>>333636987
Your game must be broken, dude.That enemy couldn't even shoot you either.
Duke Nukem 3D is the greatest shooter ever made and the standard upon which all of us should judge other FPS.
Prove me wrong /v/.
Prove-me-WRONG.
>>333632316
Too add to this: only bother with Painkiller Black edition, Overdose, and Hell & Damnation. Resurrection is dogshit and Redemption & Recurring Evil are only enjoyable is you REALLY like Painkiller. Hell & Damnation is really good but there's fuck loads of Dee-el-see so you might wanna skip that too if it really bothers you that much.
>>333640569
>Overdose
Enjoy NEVER fullfilling those card conditions.
Like who's idea was that the marsh/swamp level is the melee only level?
>>333638581
I have more fun with Doom
>>333640569
Hell & Damnation is just Painkiller Black Edition Remix with some weird changes. I had some fun with it, but the original Painkiller Black Edition is better and has more content for less money.
Also H&D somehow managed to have a WORSE final boss fight than the original Painkiller
>>333635479
Visually I like it the most
Gameplay-wise, it's really disappointing.
>>333631770
>doesn't change the fact that the series known for it's multiplayer, is still more consistently fun than the series known for it's single player
lolno
