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It still hurts, brehs
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It still hurts, brehs
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Wait for E3.
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>>333616236

>brehs

Go off yourself.
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>>333616428
>getting upset over 5 letters

Pathetic
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>>333616236

I just started playing MGS3 for the 1st time, im at the end fighting the metal gear right now. I can't believe people think it's better than MGS5. So far I've played 1 2 3 and 5 and 5 is definitely the best. The most interesting part I noticed is the scene in 3 where the main theme kicks on as you climb an insanely tall ladder. Howcome in the thousands of whiny MGS5 threads where everyone complains about the music kicking in on the car ride with skullface, people dont complain about the ladder music?
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>>333616660
Because ladder is a calm moment before Groznyj Grad

Skull Face's speech was supposed to explain fucking everything, it was supposed to be a fucking climax.

>WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
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>>333616637
>getting upset over 3 words
Lmao faggot
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>>333616948
>doing damage control

My sides
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Kojima was too busy taking Joost on dates to work on the game properly
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>>333617416
Maybe they fired him because he got too big for his britches.
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>kojima makes a game better than 99.9% of all video games that came out in the last ten year
>/v/ hates it because they wanted a 11/10 game instead of a 10/10 game
>/v/ calls it easy and messy despite shooting through the entire missions and getting E ranks
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>>333617619
>came out in the last ten year
Yeah, really setting a high standard there.
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>>333617897

Look at this cool guy on a video game board, he hates video games.
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>>333616236
you know nothing of pain
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>>333617619
the level design and boss design were utter shit.

gameplay means nothing if the levels suck
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>>333617968
You seem upset.
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Why? WHY?
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>>333618125

Im always upset. Constantly surrounded by faggots.
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>>333618216
Gee, maybe if you had any actual taste instead of just eating up whatever shit is thrown at you then you wouldn't think everyone is a faggot except for you.
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>>333616236
You feel it too, don't you?
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>>333616236
I feel like I'm reliving the whole ride again with FFXV this year: massive hype for a long-awaited game that will restore faith in gaming. It just can't be helped. Getting on and off hype trains is the only thing that keeps me going.

You feel it too don't you?
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>>333616993
>damage control for the damage control of your damage control
Huh?
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>>333618293

> if you had any actual taste

Spend your day on a video game board, talking about how shit video games have been for the past decade....

BOY YOU GOT SOME GOOD TASTE, FAGGOT
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Why is it that you faggots love Obsidian games despite them never being finished and running like dog shit but when its MGS you chimp out over muh missing chapter? Fucking literal autists.
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>>333618449
>doing damage control for damage control of damage control with damage control
Seriously?
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>>333616660
The ladder was supposed to be a moment to reflect on what had happened up to that point. It wasn't an awkward silence after the big bad explained his master plan and forgot how to time it so neither person knows what to do.
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There is literally nothing wrong with MGSV, it is a gameplay masterpiece. That smooth gameplay and legit operator simulator makes me want to rub my dick on the CD.
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>>333617619
It wasn't even better than some of the games that came out this year.
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>>333618521

> reflect on what had happened up to that point.

That is literally what the music in the car ride is for. He just had a giant speech and now you have time to reflect on it.
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>>333617989
At least mass effect can redeem itself in upcoming games
MGS V was the final game in the series
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>>333618485
Yeah, I do. The past decade has been pretty poor for video games, as anyone who played them before gen 7 can tell you. Of course there are exceptions, but saying a game is better than the majority of games in the last ten years doesn't set a high standard, when the majority is largely mediocre at best.
Look bud, it's okay if you like a mediocre game, but that doesn't mean everyone who has higher standards is a faggot. No need to freak out about it either.
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>>333617989
This is pretty much ME3 again.

Except instead of just the last little bit, just the last 15 minutes of a game, it's pretty much the entire game.
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>>333618721
>At least mass effect can redeem itself in upcoming games
What do you think the actual chances of that happening are?
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>>333618873

Thats such horse shit. There have been so many good games in the past decade but your head is too far up your own ass to notice. Go back to playing deus ex for the 57th time.
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>>333619162
Sorry.
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>>333618517
>doing damage control for damage control of damage control with damage control in response to damage control
Why?
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>>333619162
inb4 argument about how Deus Ex is too old and has aged or whatever.
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>>333618629
Not really. One, the scene itself isn't quiet. The music is blaring in TPP. In MGS3, it's muted and whispered, barely there, and it's just the voice. It's actually quiet, inviting reflection for the player. And nothing else is happening either visually. It's just you and nothing else but a ladder. It's practically an intermission, since if they took away much else, it'd be a black screen with no sound.

In TPP, the main baddie is right across from you, leaving you wondering if he's going to start talking again. The music is hitting fever pitch, which drags you to listen more and think less. It's visually cluttered, lots of things are happening on the screen, things in the background to draw your attention.

It's not well constructed for reflection.
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>>333619254
>damage controlling this hard for damage control in response to damage controlled damage controlling after doing damage control for my damage control attempt at your damage control before doing damage control
What's the point?
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>>333619430

I know right? I mean The Odyssey is 1000+ years old and I read it almost every day, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. All books written after it are mediocre to be perfectly honest with you.
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>>333618875
ME 3 was complete shit from the start
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>>333619593
>lots of things are happening

Nigger it's a car ride, do you get super distracted and can no longer think while driving IRL? Aint shit happening.
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>>333619671
Well, uh, the Odyssey wasn't really a book, so...
Y'know, if you're going to throw strawmen around like a child, at least put some effort into them.
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>>333619875

God damn you people are gigantic faggots. You can read a poem you know. It's not like that gigantic fuckin epic was only ever acted out or spoken by word of mouth, you can read that shit.
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>>333619613
>damage controlling this hard for damage control in response to damage controlled damage controlling after doing damage control for my damage control attempt at your damage control before doing damage control featuring damage control from the damage may control series
What did he mean by this?
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>>333620017
>God damn you people are gigantic faggots
When you think everyone is a gigantic faggot except for you, maybe it's time you considered the possibility that it's you who has the problem.

Have you ever considered the fact that maybe you just need to grow up instead of sitting around dumping strawmen against people who disagree with you?
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>>333620368

>When you think everyone is a gigantic faggot

No, I KNOW you are all gigantic faggots.
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>>333620436
Well anon, that's a problem that you're going to have to work out on your own.
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>>333620517

Ya, I'm working on it. Calling out faggots left and right.
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>it's a mgsv fan gets really mad when other people say they didn't like it episode
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>>333616236
The phantom pain never stops, I was so hyped the night it came out, the game that would conclude the whole saga and tie all the loose ends.
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>>333620836

Hey look it's a faggot.
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>>333618537
The gameplay is bland and feels like another 3rd person shooter. The charm from the previous games is missing.
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>>333617416
Every day Hideo Kojima winds up happy clockwork doll Stefanie Joosten, Kojima takes the wind-up key and puts it in happy doll Stefanie's key slot and turns it to make her /Volumes/Sans titre 1/docs/steefanie-joosten.jpgmove, each turn of the wind-up key makes robot doll Stefanie giggle and jitter from the grinding and working of her ticking mechanical clockwork insides that fill her perfect automaton body. Happy silly cooing comes out of her perfect plastic doll lips and her shiny glass eyes light up with joy and cheerfulness from having her perfect mechanical doll robot body wound up by Kojima's hands. Then she gets up and goes about her day to please all of Kojima's fans with her perfect happy Stefanie doll face and clockwork Joosten toy body. Each of her moves brought by the grinding and ticking of the cogs and springs and gears and pulleys and all happy clockwork insides that fill her doll body. And all of Kojima's fans fall in love with her because she's a perfect happy robot Joosten doll and that makes Kojima happy, and nothing makes clockwork doll Stefanie Joosten happier than making Hideo Kojima and his fans happy with her smiley happy plastic face and perfect doll body. That's why she's the forever happy perfect and thoroughly mechanical Stefanie giggly robot doll.
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>>333616343
Oh for fucks sake
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>>333620224
autism
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>>333619593
I think it's fairly obvious Skull - face was originally going to be a boss fight of some sort.

>unique gun that was talked about in GZ
>depot his long speech there is still plenty more on tapes
>Venom literally does his default ACC animation
>WHHHOOOOOO!

Kojima pro. probably hadn't finished it when Konami basically gave them the boot, so they hurried up, slapped his speech in a lame car ride, and let Sahalanthropus smash his legs and Huey kill him cuz "fuck you"

Seems just as rushed as Volgins remains coming back from the dead for no reason at all.
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>>333616236
To be fair, having shrapnel embedded in your face would hurt for a long time
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>>333621164
You're not even trying. Name one game that this feels "exactly" like. Lemme guess, CoD? Halo? Assassins Creed?

If you're gonna be such a faggot, at least try to fake it better.
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>>333616236
A good Saga dying in agony, fuck Konami.
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>>333621819
Skullface was NEVER going to be a boss. His unsatisfactory death is part of the game's theme of revenge, and how pointless it is.
How people miss this is beyond my compreention.
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What an amazing game. One last fuck you by Kojima to the people who didn't know what MGS was really about.
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>>333623463
You know...
I don't like to pull the "it's 2 smart for you, m8" card.
I don't even think Kojima is as brilliant as his autistic fans think he is.
But goddamit, most people just don't get it, really.
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>>333623463

What is it about?
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>>333624556
memes
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>>333623463
>>333623980
I must have missed something when I was playing the first four that made somehow not able to understand the super deep and intricate plot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc0EzLc7NZg

YOU FEEL IT TOO, DON'T YOU?
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>>333618620
It was the best game last year...
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Don't go back and watch the trailers after finishing the game. I did. I only feel sadness.
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>>333626854
that's the point
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>>333626917
>it sucks on purpose
stop
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I'm still debating whether I should play Peace Walker before this or just not bother with either of them at all.
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>>333627136
only after you recognize that V is actually a good game
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So we can agree these two fooled around at least once right?

Do you think before Big Boss dumped Ocelot like he dumped EVA, he was at least a little bit happy in his miserable life?
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>>333627236
But if he were to recognize it as a good game, would that contradict the concept that it sucks on purpose?
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>>333621258
what the shit?
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>>333627443
no
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>>333616236
Did the nukes EVER got dismantled or something? Did Konami EVER show again how many nukes were left? Is being months since I turned on the game.
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>yfw Ground Zeroes - a one hour demo - had a more coherent and cogent Story than TPP.
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>>333627230
Peace Walker is pretty good. I honestly liked it over MGSV.

Portable Ops is absolutely skippable, it "sets up" Peace Walker but it's practically ignored by the rest of the games. There's a small reference at the start of PW and the final plot point is tenuously canon if you look hard enough. It's also slow, has ugly and boxy stages, and some characters feel out of character.
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It was an objectively good game and vee only hates it because it was overhyped and popular

Prove me wrong protip you cun't
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>>333627760
Not hard considering the story of GZ is
>you rescue these two kids
>they destroy your base
>fall into a coma
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>>333616660
Rotten casual detected. Go back to fps and mobile games.
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>>333627554
But you said you won't stop saying it was shit on purpose until he recognized it as a good game.

So is it shit on purpose, or a good game?
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>>333627839
Well yeah it has the best gameplay/controls of any metal gear I've played. But the absolute worst story and I'm not generally critical of a game's story.
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>>333627760
Not hard considering GZ's story is as complex as the one from a Super Mario game.
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>>333627802
I actually played a little PW a while ago, but it was trying to be a TPS on a system where it expected me to use buttons to aim.
I assume the PS3 version uses the sticks.
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The gameplay was tight. The mechanics were good. But it just didn't feel like a metal gear game. It was overly serious, there were no joke weapons or camo. No unlockables. It just felt streamlined with the weapon and upgrade system and I hated the mother base sim mode. The bosses sucked and the story was a letdown. The whole thing lacked finer details so it felt rushed. There weren't even any memorable bosses (a huuuuge part of mgs). At the end of it all, I feel the phantom pain of his shitty game eating away at me, so Kojima wins on that front.
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>>333628781
>tight
I'll never understand why this word is used when referring to something as ''good''.
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>>333628860
I think they still use it in middle school.
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>>333616236
>The game I've lost, the characters I've lost... won't stop hurting! You feel it too, don't you?
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>>333628781
>no joke weapons
>water pistol
>hand of jehuty
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>>333628860
Meant to put tight mechanics. As in responsive, well designed.
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It was a letdown, but i've always wanted this kind of operator simulator.
Every day I play it and I just complete a few of those ''filler'' missions and some side ops.
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>>333627385

Snake NTRd Ocelot with Miller.

https://youtu.be/cbOI8FNzD0o
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>>333616660
bait
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>>333616343
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>>333616660
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>>333628252
Of course.

I hated PW when I played it on the PSP but grew to really like it playing through it again co-op with dual analogs on the PS3.
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>>333616236
> still hurts

You had since mgs4 or at least shitwalker to get over mgs being shit
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>>333617619
>calls it easy and messy despite shooting through the entire missions and getting E ranks
Hold ups are easy. CQC is easy. Using absolutely nothing was still fucking easy.
Using anything just made it even easier.
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>>333630245
MGS4 was a masterpiece though
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>>333619162
Incredibly wrong. Last Gen was the worst since pre nes
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>>333630258
post all missions s-ranked please
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>1984
what did he mean by this?
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>>333630245

Peace Walker was a masterpiece.
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>>333627534
>Kojima keeps Joost because he likes to fuck her
>Kojima fans like her because Kojima likes her despite her lack of personality or anything interesting

That's what he meant.
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>>333629265
>date missions
>canon

Though, BB probably did replace Ocelot with Miller.
Remember when they wrestled? BB probably did the same thing with Ocelot. Why was BB so hesitant about saying how many people he slept with?
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>>333628186
Isn't that the point? TPP had a worse, less-satisfying story than a fucking Mario game.

For the record, you don't need a complex story to have a good story. GZ was good specifically because it was simple and to the point, and didn't introduce stupid fucking ideas like PARASITES.

Man, I'm so mad.
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>>333627385
No. Ocelot had a one sided crush on Big Boss, but he's not gay and Ocelot respected that. Besides EVA, BB is borderline asexual or at least doesn't feel the need for love, being a sterile PTSD sufferer and all.
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>>333633870
>Ocelot had a one sided crush on Big Boss, but he's not gay

Wat
EVA flat out implies it and called BB dumb for not picking up on it.

>Besides EVA, BB is borderline asexual or at least doesn't feel the need for love
Couldn't be more wrong. EVA says not once, but twice she loved Big Boss. And in peace walker says "I know we loved each other" though it's likely EVA just assumed that.
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>>333633452
Thing is if MGS was simple it wouldn't have any fanbase today.
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>>333630331

What are your favorite games? Lets say the best 3 games you can think of.
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>>333616236

its ok, dark souls 3 will redeem sequels

r-right?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPnTa1UJPEI
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>>333634449
Sorry, I meant Ocelot is gay, but BB must have been raised on a farm and didn't even know being gay was a thing. And EVA only really saw Snake that one time in MGS3 and a brief time after they joined the Patriots, and he was pretty pissed at her for trying to steal the Legacy so I don't think there was any love there.
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>>333635203
Eh, it was alright till they had to namedrop Shadow Moses and the Fulton. Then it just got cringey.
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>>333635220
EVA loved him though, she says it more than once. Also in Peace Walker, he knows what homosexual is. He figured out Strangelove, although it took him a bit, but he did understandt.
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Well I officially beat MGS3, other than those kickass moments of riding in the sidecar with my infinite ammo mg63, MGS5 is way better.
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>>333620479
>tfw venom is more handsome
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>>333621258
Damnit the Joost is too damn cute
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>>333617619

>MGSV is a 10/10

6/10 max.
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>>333616236

I love MGSV for many reasons. One being the best stealth gameplay in the series. The other being that it revealed /v/ for the utter casuals that they are. /v/ hates the game because it's not "muh wacky anime story" and hour long codec calls. It focuses all on gameplay and minimal story.

All those fucking threads all these years you hear over and over: games are too easy, gameplay is king, gameplay is all that matters. MGSV comes along and you fags hate it because it wasn't wacky and didn't focus on dumb convoluted anime storylines.

Love it. /v/ is just a bunch of tryhard casuals pretending to be hardcore.
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>>333632337
Can't. Sold my copy for amazonbucks a while back.
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>>333641150
Disregard. Forgot there was a trophy for it.
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>>333637974
Well on that scale MGS1 is 2/10, MGS2 2.5/10, MGS3 5/10 and MGS4 1/10
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>>333638446
The MGS series has always been heavily story focused. Therefore, there's an expectation that all games in the series will have a rich storyline.
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>>333616236
I might play it again today, I want to just 100% it and then be done forever. I think I'm at 83%.
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>>333616236
What happened to 'We take Gameplay over Story' /v?
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>>333642445
the problem is MGSV's complete lack of engaging gameplay though

story has its problems too, but that's secondary
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>>333638446
>the best stealth gameplay in the series.
LMAO

And you have the nerve to claim everyone who doesn't like it is a casual when MGSV requires you to make contact with the enemy unlike previous games
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>>333641463
the hell am i looking at?
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>>333638446
this. If you want to talk with people who actually like and are good at games, go visit /vr/. Some generals on /vg/ are good, but overall the place is just as bad as /v/.
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>>333616660
because it fucking fits and its basically one of longest ladders in game history?

Also... It was onyl voice of singer over there. AND IT FUCKING FITS THE WHOLE SITUATION

its not "le epic music XD" used in a car ride

Its supprising and its just feels good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgaYe4ZYYyY&nohtml5=False

"Sins of the father" should be a soundtrack of one of the most epic battles of video games in history. The ending of Kojima MSG saga. The final "FIN" that will make us shit our pants.

NOT SOME FUCKING JEEP RIDE WITH ANTAGONIST THAT WE DONT EVEN FIGHT

AND IT DONT EVEN FUCKING FITS IN THE WHOLE SITUATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB0SlwIoT6o&nohtml5=False
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>>333617619
>kojima makes a game better than 99.9% of all video games that came out in the last ten year

kek dat fucking standards of kojimadrone
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>>333623202
Le epic bait.
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>>333617619
It wasn't a 10/10, Peace Walker was way better
>you're actually Big Boss
>character dialogue is fun, free-spirited and not in short supply
>Hayter
>no long drawn out helicopter introductions preventing you from replaying missions
>co-op
>more bosses
>more mission variety
>better story
>better villains
>scene where Big Boss has to phone NORAD is better than anything in MGSV
I could go on but I think I've made my point faglord
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>>333646187
>story
>story
>story
>story

MGSV has better gameplay than your monster hunter shit
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>>333646832
No, it really doesn't
MGSV heavily penalizes you unless you kill everybody in the most unlike-MGS fashion possible
Shit like the helicopter sequences ruin the flow
Peace Walker's levels have much better, tighter, focused level design
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>>333646187
>more bosses
>when they were just bullet sponges made for co-op
>better villains
>there was none actually

>scene where Big Boss has to phone NORAD is better than anything in MGSV
No, it isn't, there's absolutely nothing memorable about that scene, in fact, it shows just how superficial Kojima's writing is.
>Big Boss saves the world because he tells one of the guys that he shaked the president's hand in a secret meeting

Literally cartoon-tier.
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>>333646990
PW's level design is absolute garbage, nothing more than a bunch of generic corridors with obvious ways to bypass absolutely everything, heavily flawed due to PSP's shit hardware.

>No, it really doesn't
>when the HUD is a fucking mess
>when the controls are garbage
>when you can't even move prone
>everything feels clunky as fuck

PW's gameplay is probably the worst in the entire series.
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>/v/edditors defending Peace Walker
Well, with this we have confirmation that the moment MGS6 comes out every single one of you drones will start automatically liking MGSV.
This place is nothing if not predictable.
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MEANWHILE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPnTa1UJPEI
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>>333647443
/v/edditors? What are you talking about? I came over on the boat during the war on eBaums a decade ago, fuck off
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>>333647351
The controls in Peace Walker are better than MGSV, MGSV was bogged down with way way too much context sensitive bullshit, Peace Walker kept it more simple like an arcade game but that's not a bad thing
I play video games to play video games, not jerk myself off about how everything is so realistic
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>>333646187
>character dialogue is fun, free-spirited and not in short supply

Unfortunately, the PW tapes cast (aside from Miller) are some of the dullest in the series. An annoying kids spurging about cryptids, Paz and Amanda providing useless info. If there are interesting tapes in PW, I didn't find them. Did Zadornov record any?
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If MGS4 was Kojima being tired of MGS then what was MGSV? I feel like the trailers might be insightful because it reminds me of MGS2, "Oh shit, why am I Raiden?" like MGSV, "Oh shit I'm the medic and this game was disappointing."

Kojima HAD to know the helicopter scenes and other gameplay drags were bad.
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>Kojima had to know that the gameplay drags were bad

If Fukushima's departure and PT proves anything, it's that Kojima can only make a good game when someone has him on a leash.
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