is this the best classic Mega Man game?
no its the most poorly designed one
its probably 4 or 7
No, not by a longshot. It's just the most nostalgic one right now.
>>333549723
Probably.
Only thing wrong with Mega Man 2 is how overpowered the Metal Blade is, and being unable to beat a boss if you run out of Crash Bombs, otherwise it's great.
I am partial to 6 and 7 though. Both are on the easier side so it's a great start off point for guys to get into the series.
>implying 3 isnt the best
>>333549723
One of. The best being Rockman & Forte/9.
>>333549816
>>333549723
Its the most overrated and the one made a lot of people begin with the Megaman franchise
My personal favorites were 7 and 10
No. This is.
>>333549816
This.
Buoybeam trap is a shittily designed boss no matter how many times you play it.
>>333550109
>10
My nigga. 10 also has the best music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pGHXBuKB4A
>>333549723
http://strawpoll.me/7309584
Not sure about that
>>333549723
No because everything after Mega Man 1 was rushed to hell.
>>333549723
>MM1 was avoided because of shitty box art
>MM2 somehow got noticed and became popular so people went back to MM1 but decided to fuck it because it's harder
>MM3 was still pretty good but didn't sell as much as MM2 for some reason
>MM4 basically kind of went unnoticed because 16bit era started
>MM5 went like it didn't even exist
>MM6 also went like it didn't even exist but not as much as MM5
>MM7 nobody knew this was a thing also people hate it because of the scaling
>MM8 was very stale
>MM9 good revival of the series
>MM10 good continuation of the series
Fuck,I love Mega Man but why is it's history so shit?
MM4 NES and GB are both light years above and beyond MM2 NES.
>>333550823
The history as you described is shit because it is so, so wrong. Look up somw sales figures sometime and see for yourself. MM7 was not considered to have bad scaling at release, which means that didn't factor into its poor sales. Moreover 7 and 8 in particular are finally starting to be looked at more favourably than ever before in the last few years, which is due to nostalgia and recognizing the games are not as bad as purists claim. The same vehicle that saw MM2 explode in popularity after years of MM3 being considered the best by fans.
>>333549723
2 is impressive due to the leap in quality from 1 to 2, but other megaman games are better, like 4.
>>333550823
>>MM8 was very stale
wut
>>333551529
>>333550823
>>333551921
Mega Man 8 is really not a bad game. I don't know how that age old meme got started.
inb4 muh voice acting
>>333552285
No, I agree that 8 is not bad. The meme was started by purists forever and a half ago.
>>333551529
I wasn't implying that MM7 is bad because of the scaling,I've just heard allot people disliking the game because of that,and I can kind see since the platforming at times seems a bit awkward.I personally really like it though
As for it's sales I wouldn't say they were bad if an original SNES cartridge of MM7 didn't cost 100$-200$ on ebay
It honestly sold poorly because MegaManX was going on and was popular at the time
>>333552786
The scaling is bad though. It was made by the company behind GB 1, 3, 4, and 5 which were all good to amazing games themselves. I think they were trying to apply what worked on the small screen (large sprites, small rooms) to the big screen and it didn't work out perfectly. I'd still play 7 over 1, 2, 5, 6, and the shitshow which was Bass.
>>333551921
The story was ok,I liked the anime cutscenes,the english voice acting I won't even talk about it
The gameplay is like any other megaman game,except the swimming part,that was new.
In the end it was...just another megaman game,good but didn't do anything much new or different
I like it,but nothing to write home about.
>>333553395
wasn't the powerup system new? 7 let you buy etanks and lives but not drastic changes to your buster and other things. its ost was chill as fuck and very different from any other mm before it. idk i've always really liked the game maybe i'm bias
I have more fun with the mods and some of the fangames anyways.
>>333552786
You hit the nail on the head for MM7's sales. X was already out and had captured player's attention as Capcom gambled it would.
>>333553787
Yeah the bolts system in 8 was pretty solid.
3>2=9>1>4>10>5>6>>7>>>>>>>>8
>>333549945
i agree with the wrongs.
3 is probably my 2nd
>>333549723
I prefer 3, longer game, better balance of the weapons, the only thing i wouldn't say is superior to 2 is the music.
what do you guys think of the 8bit remakes of megaman 7 and 8?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDOn56hpR7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hP4I_u0_m8
>>333551215
Mein Neger
>>333554830
They look much better to me.
>>333549723
No, MM2 is objectively the most poorly designed MM game.
>>333549723
Yes.
Although people who say 3 have a strong argument.
Anybody else think that 9 and 10 had a pretty big hand in killing the series? I think they are fine games, but instead of being sequels they just created essentially a romhock of 2-4. 5 and 6 definitely stagnated the series, and I think 7 and 8 took strides to update the serieswhich were steps in the wrong direction if you ask mebut 9 and 10 were just an attempt to pander to nostalgia instead of updating the series. I think that when you bookend your series like that it's definitely putting the final nails in the coffin.
>>333554830
I kinda wish they did one for Mega Man & Bass
>>333554830
I still prefer the artstyle and music in the original mega man 8
It's a tie between 2 and 3 for me, but 2 probably wins because of the nostalgia factor.
>>333554830
I'm disappointed that they aren't actual NES ROMs.
>>333549723
yes
>>333555501
aren't megaman 8's stages too big for the NES?
>>333555103
>but 9 and 10 were just an attempt to pander to nostalgia
Gotta disagree with this somewhat. Visual nostalgia? Yes. Gameplay nostalgia? Not at all. 9 & 10's difficulty is well above that of the NES/GB MM's to the point where it felt like Capcom/Inti misinterpreted the "hardcore" part of hardcore fans.
>>333555808
Meh, 9 is right there with 2 difficulty-wise. 10 is piss easy.
>>333556180
>Piss easy
Even in hard?
>>333549723
Got a rep as being the hardest of the series which was just flat out wrong. Decent game, but I'd rather play the first even.
So here's a question /v/, is pic-related a better bundle than the recent Megaman collection released on 3DS and all the consoles?
This is cheaper and it comes with 8 games instead of only 6. Also i have a PS2.
>>333556180
MM2 is piss easy. So you're saying 9 & 10 also are?
>>333549980
This.
muh nigga
>>333558351
I've had the AC since launch and played through the games on it many a time.
Picked up the LC on 2DS and visually the games look very right. And you can play the JP versions of the games if you want. Felt great to play.
>>333550172
Get a load of this...
>>333558351
Not really. Get the Complete Works ports for the PSone.
Anniversary Collection has audio issues ahoy on a good hunk of the games, no Mode7 for VII, none of the extras for 8. Also, INPUT LAG. However, slowdown was fixed, since AC is based off the CW ports.
LC is better than AC as a whole, emulation wise, but the slowdown being back isn't really that good.
>All this hate on /v/ towards AVGN
>All them megaman threads, tho
fucking hypocrites
>>333549980
The only real answer
This guy is a serious contender. I loved the Stardroids.
>>333558949
CW's also have L/R weapon cycling. Something that's been standard in MM games since the first X. Apparently that's evil according to the dudes who made the Legacy Collection because ???
>>333559193
All I wish this and 4 GB had was a fix for the insane amount of slowdown they get sometimes, it would be neat to see them "NESized" even if just to remove the slowdown
>>333550407
>No Turning Back as best Wily Stage track
Mah nigga.It syncs up perfectly with Frost Man's theme and it's fucking beautiful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJDJ7K-Yxk8
>>333559257
Anniversary Collection has the L/R weapon cycling, too.
>>333549980
I'd like 3 a lot more without the Doc Robot stages.
4 is the pinnacle of Classic Mega Man.
9 is great too but that one is more "MM2 done right"
>>333550641
>2 and 3 too even
>>333554830
7FC is better than the original
8FC is worse.
>>333562613
If only 4 didn't take a million years for the screen to scroll and for lifebars to fill up.
>>333562613
4 is fucking terrible. The music especially.
>>333558351
>tfw megamain in smash
>found myself liking the GC edition because it has the big A button for lemons
The best is either 4 or 9 in my opinion, 2 and 3 are close. I really like 2 a lot but it just feels way to easy, still a phenomenal game. Worst classic game is 5, even then it's just mediocre.
Best robot master.
>>333563321
What's so bad about it? It set the precedent for the perfect length MM stages should be. 2 and 3's were a bit too short. The weapons are all amazing, more balanced than 2's and much more useful than 3's. And it did an extended endgame much better than 3 did by having 2 castles instead of reused levels and bosses.
>the music especially
Don't even fucking start with me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-ABrEvM_ZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZl4wMMf11w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRGotA3Yzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LZg6Mvf8U
>>333563760
Megaman 4 was the first one I played, I thought it was extremely difficult but fair
I think the only reason people like 2 is because it's the easiest and Wilys castle is best music meme will never die
>>333563760
Also that music fucking takes me back man. Pharaoh man will always be the best robot master (also had the coolest ability imo)
>>333562613
>>333563605
I've waited decades for the attitude to shift in favour of MM4, to see it slowly happening is great. I always loved 4 best.
Brightman's stage caused me no end of grief when I was a kid until I finally got the timing right.
There is one glaring flaw with 2 that constantly prevents me from praising it outright, and that's the inclusion of boss battles that can be rendered unwinnable if you run out of energy for the proper weapon.
Here's to you, Boobeam Trap and Alien Wily.
>>333563760
To add to mega man 4 music I love these tracks.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6mveZtpf_5Q
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QMPq6AzQTWI
Also love this remix from 2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z-NTq_PA3tc
Best interpretation of the character in my opinion.
>There are people on /v/ who haven't played Rockman 4 Minus Infinity
>>333564360
>>333564127
>>333564002
To be fair as >>333563605 who feels 4 is the overall best I feel both 2 and 3 did have better soundtracks. 4 is not bad in the slightest just weaker in my opinion. 5's is bland as hell though.
Was ten dollars worth something in the 80's?
>>333564360
not happening. 4 is just way too easy. 1, 2, and 3 were pretty difficult, and after you clear any one of them, you are at an intermediate skill level for platformers. then 4 comes along and drops the difficulty down to beginner. it's not on the same level as the previous releases, it's beneath them.
megaman 4 is a rental. i feel legitimately bad for any kid who had it taking up space in his library instead of something actually worth owning.
>>333563760
It just sounds boring compared to others. Even 5's music was better (although, Pharoah man is one of my favorite mega man songs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5YIJ_-WlNM&index=21&list=PL68DA338C7EA8D0FA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C75Q7bdQAQA&index=10&list=PL68DA338C7EA8D0FA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcYU6WnyrAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFwmNeV0pJc&index=16&list=PL68DA338C7EA8D0FA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI0_v340OPM&list=PL68DA338C7EA8D0FA&index=9
>>333558351
actually it has 10 games, there's 2 arcade games you can unlock
also concept art and more options
>>333565080
All Megaman games have absolutely kickass tracks. It's hard for me to pick out which one has the best music. I mean, 5 has got Darkman's theme which is one of the best there is, but 10 has Nitroman's theme, 2 has Wily Stage 1, 4 has Pharaohman's theme, and so on, and so forth. I couldn't say that 4 has boring music much like I can't say that any Megaman game has boring music (unless we're talking about the real outliers like Megaman and Bass for Wonderswan or something)
>>333565032
Opinion discarded tripfriend
>>333565032
>2
>more difficult then 4
I'll give you 1, maybe even 3 which is pretty easy, but 2 is literary like a kirby game. Mega man is a easy series anyway.
>>333565080
>>333564673
>>333564431
>>333563760
4's music was okay, but R&B (rockman and bass) is where it's at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tgTfWwQzTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n32STSDGmA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htbbK4dQVX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FkWPHHwNxw
>>333565532
2 is WAY more difficult than 4 simply because you can grind energy tanks in 4. and that's forgetting all the super hazardous shit like quick man's lasers, heat man's lava, airman, wily 1's boss..... what's hard about mega man 4? a few spikes in dive man's level and a skippable pit in bright man's? please
>>333565604
RM&B as a whole is underrated in my opinion. I've done two playthroughs as mega man and loved it, actually some challenging moments.
>>333565604
MM8's music doesn't get enough love either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ClNZ0uym0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBf_80w4mMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-wez5eZwWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGq0X2cjWpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkIS7mAfzGU
>>333564127
what do you get when pharaoh man dances?A disco tut
what do you get when pharaoh man dances, with Dr. Cossack?the winter of our disco tut
>>333565953
Nothing you listed was difficult. Quick man's laser are a bit tough but dollow a simple pattern and flash stoper allows you to cheese it, item 1 lets you cheese heat man which is simple already as the blocks appear mostly in a straight line. Wily 1 and air man are difficult how? Some pits? You have to be kidding me. 4's robot masters have the most complex patterns of the nes games except toad man, giving a robot master a undodgeable attack though was stupid and had to be made manegable.
I love 4's weapon set. A homing weapon which doesn't suck. A screen clearer which also pierces armor. Shield which is amazing. Powerful chargable & aimable weapon. Two other power weapons with distinct extra utility. Time freezing weapon which isn't garbage. And fucking rings. Can't go wrong with any of them. But few people know this because "muh buster only" fanatics.
>>333566570
I've never actually beat Heat Man's dissapearing blocks over lava area, I always use item-2
>>333566570
This guy deserves his own game. His SFxT appearance was pretty good though. He could meme harder than Dan ever could.
>>333566732
>mfw archie mega man 55 is just a montage in comic book form
The charge beam directly contrasts with a core design element of Megaman. I like the slide though, since it's a platformer, there's nothing wrong with giving MM more mobility. I'd say 2&3 are the only good NES ones.
>>333566708
Item 2 I meant, my mistake. It might take a few tries but I think people make it worst then it actually is. After the first few block they start to appear in a pretty linear line making it pretty simple.
>>333567006
it's usually the one that appears right over mega man to fuck up your jump that gets me
>>333554830
7 FC is very well done, I prefer it to the SNES version.
8 FC (different dev) isn't that great, the 32bit versions are better.
The main problems :
- Their enemy respawn code sucks, you don't have any margin, just move a little and the enemies will respawn
- They fucked up the mega ball implementation. In the original game you can jump bounce on it, but it is not possible in the FC version
- They didn't implement the possibility to use the buster + weapons simultaneously. The MM8 weapons were designed to be used that way, but no rebalancing.
- Whole sections of stages have been removed or hugely altered, especially in Frost Man and Search Man's stages.
- No buster upgrades in the shop, no MM8 rush items.
>we will never see blues/tempo double tsundere action
>fire man never got a backup story of his very own
>>333567006
Iceman's blocks felt worse in MM1 because of the slip factor, Heatman is just a long procession of linear blocks.
2's were harder because of the sheer number of blocks you had to jump, increasing the chance that the family dog or a younger sibling would run a distraction, throwing off your timing or blocking the screen.
>we never got to see ian flynn desperately write his way around trademark problems
>>333567417
I found the foot holds the difficult part of ice man's stage.
>>333565532
>maybe even 3 which is pretty easy
WHO ORDERED RAPE
All of the doc robot stages beats anything 2 had to offer. Hell, 2 doesn't even have a yellow giant.
>needle man never got to finish that sweater he was knitting
>refuses 2nd chance at life so he'll never finish it
>>333566708
It's fucking easy, I wonder why people make a big deal of it. Actually I often start Heat Man. There is only 3 sets of overlapping blocks in this dreaded part, and the first 2 are right at the beginning, over safe ground, so it's not hard to remember them.
The only part where you have to be careful is after the lava pit, once the lava disappear from sight, the next blocks will be overlapping blocks. That's it, aside from that, it is only "jump to the next block on the right".
>>333567713
>RAPE
>Not Doc Quickman
>shadow man never got to meet his old boss again
>>333567670
This level was suffering. And unlike on the NES you can't just cheat with the magnet beam.
>drill man will never doggedly chase after tempo's affections
>>333567713
Sorry, doc robots are kinda tough but you have to admit that's from shitty design though. Keeping the same pattern with nearly double their height was bullshit.
>proto man will never redeem himself
>>333550407
why can I not buy 9 & 10 at the playstation store? it says I can only rent them. wtf
>>333568045
It's actually brilliant. Name another game where they put the most difficult boss from the last game into a bulkier body.
I was just a kid. Cool to see some returning bosses, Airman, Metalman. But there was this feeling on unease in the back of my mind, like impending doom, a rapist around the next corner.
And then I saw Quickman dropping down from the ceiling. No no no. Hastily I opened up the menu to use Time Stopper, which I don't have. NO NO NO. I unpause and he's already collided with me, taking 1/4th of my health. NOOOOO
That's all fine and dandy, but we all agreeXis the best series right?
>>333568109
He did redeem himself, he just doesn't feel he did.
>>333568405
>we all agree X is the best game right?
FTFY. Classic is solid as fuck while X went downhill immediately.
>>333568479
>Implying X4 isn't the best in the series
>tfw fully playable zero for the first time
>>333568376
No, it definitely is a cool concept just very poorly designed and implemented. Wish it was used in later games and improved
>>333568376
>Using Time Stopper on Quickman
>Not going on buster only fun
Even when Doc Quickman is a pain in the ass, you should try practicing that part.
>>333569740
Practice? But the whole level is hell, who'd want to replay that over and over?
>>333569932
You mean in 3?
Only Doc Quickman is the hard part of the stage
Besides, i hated the spike fall part more than Quickman
>>333558707
So which did you prefer?
the 2nd half of MM 3 has got to be the worst part out of any classic megaman game
i don't get why 3 is sucked off so much, here
>>333568573
>X4.
>The best.
>A playstation Megaman.
>>333568405
>X is the best series
Nah.Classic = BN > X1 specifically > Zero = SF3 specifically > Legends > ZX > rest of X > rest of Star Force
>>333572090
Mine just game in today. It's beautiful.
>>333568405
>anything other then X1
>good
3
>>333573757
>>333573614
>>333572458
>all these shit tastes
I forgot I was on /v/ for a moment
>>333574130
What X game other then 1 is good?
>>333574318
>X4
>X5
>X8
>Command Mission
>Maverick Hunter
>>333550641
>trying to decide between 2 and 3
I CAN'T FUCKING DO IT
>>333550641
>MM8 dead last
I'll never understand why this game is so hated worldwide
>>333570841
I always prefer playing on the big screen which these games originated on. However it's pretty nice to have portable versions that lack input lag or shitty dark filters. I do miss having 7/8 and the two boss rush games though.
I don't understand why the covers look the way they do for NES megaman games.
>>333574389
>X8
>good
Look it's a monumental step up from X6 and X7 but let's not go crazy here. The devs lost the magic for making this series after X4.
>>333574835
or you know, maybe just isn't everyone's favorite, I don't hate it but is not one of my favorite Megaman games
>>333549980
THIS
>>333575328
Whats wrong with X6? Dont think i ver even played that one
>>333576105
Blatant cash grab. Retconned X5's finale for the series, forced Zero 1 to be written. Doughnuts. Levels largely consist of the the same single enemy copy pasted everywhere. Great soundtrack, and they brought back Dynamo because why not so those are decent upsides.
I wish I could git gud at Mega Man games. I tend to suck hard at them.
The only classic MM I've ever beaten has been MM9 and it took me so long to do it. Died so many times, etc. Felt satisfying as fuck though, not gonna lie.
>>333576719
Try 1 now anon, it's fun
>>333574835
Voice actor was one of the most common flaws about it, also the gimmicks of the stagesSLIDE SLIDE JUMP JUMP
>>333578915
>SLIDE SLIDE JUMP JUMP
Is it so bad when games give you a little heads up at times? You really like dying to blind jumps/obstacles?
>>333579234
Not them, but those 2 are usual reasons why 8 is one of the most disliked ones.
>>333576105
Almost every part of it feels sloppy. Level design is really bad, the translation is google-translate tier at points, the plot just undoes everything X5 did for no real reason, etc. It's also miles and away the hardest X game, and probably one of the hardest mega man games period.
>>333578915
I refuse to believe anybody dislikes the either the dub or sub voice acting.
The gimmicks were Rush Jettting over parts of a stage and being on a non-Rush vechicle. Both of which were in various previous MM games. Nothing new nor bad here.
>>333579234
The bad thing about it is the fact it is a fixed sequence compared to rush jetto.
Rockman 8 was ok. Megaman 8 on the other hand...
>>333580759
What do you mean? They're both fixed sequences. Enemy/Obstacle spawns are fixed in Rush Jet sections too.
>>333549723
I'd say 4 is but it's all pretty much personal taste. But to be fair all the classic megas are pretty good. I'd love another in the same vein. Waiting for MM 11 here.
>>333581703
Rush sections didn't tell you what to do.
>You lived long enough to see megaman become a meme franchise
People nowadays either, think of megaman as a LITERAL WHO or just spew meme opinions.
I like 2, but when people ask me to rank classic megaman games (which is a meme itself) they always ask me in disbelief why I rank MM2 so low. Well, it's because I actually played these games as a kid before MM2 being the best became a meme.
also the SNES X games are all infinitely better than any of the classic Megaman games.
>>333550172
>>333579646
I understand the game has a lot of flaws but I still like it, I had fun playing it. Maybe because I don't handicap myself playing with regular X I don't feel the rage some anons get with this game.
>>333549723
It is a good one, but very overrated. I think 3 does things better.
>>333576105
Honestly I thought X5 was a chore and have replayed X6 dozens of times over the years. I even got a perfect save file where I rescued everyone and got the ultimate upgrades for X
