The neverending thread.
>>333540187
Anyone who says SMW is an absolute faggot and doesn't understand platforming.
world
World 2 > World > SMB3 >>>>>>>> SMBJ > SMB > boring 3D Mario > SMBUSA
>>333540187
Both great games but I have to go with 3 it has more variety.
>>333540424
Because platforming is about fighting the garbage physics.
>>333540741
Platforming is about gitting gud, which you can't do.
3 is a 10/10
World is a 9/10
The winner isthe people that like both
>>333540187
Super Mario 64 trumps both, faggot.
>>333541209
I bet you fuck farm animals
World has better the better OST, bosses (except Bowser, which was shit), stage design, Star World, and Yoshi.
SMB3 has better physics, better powerups, overworld, difficulty, and overall world design.
I prefer SMB3 but still find myself replaying SMW world, probably because you can save. I really need to get the GBA port of SMB3 for that reason, but I heard it's shit.
>>333541794
>SMB3 has better physics
bro no
>>333541794
>SMW world
BUH BUH BUH BOTH
Holy shit, there are people that like SMB3 better? Next thing you'll tell me people thing Galaxy is better than Galaxy 2.
>>333542012
tired and writing a final paper. I meant SMW more.
>>333541906
>liking floaty physics
Stop. I bet you dislike SMB1 when it was the pinnacle of Mario physics.
>>333540187
SMW has better everything
/thread
All mario games > any other games
>>333542173
Some people think Sunshine is the pinnacle of 3D Mario, so you never know.
>>333540187
I'll throw a new hat into the ring.
SMW, the mindfuck of finally beating all the star road secrets as a kid and everything changing puts it above 3.
3 also has that shit as fuck pipe maze level in world 7
>>333542173
>thing
>>333540187
I prefer World's cape to 3's raccoon suit.
>>333542213
except a challenge. I don't know how you can call a platformer good if you aren't challenged at any point in the game
>>333542567
When was SMB3 challenging?
>>333542784
Dark World and Pipe World.
>>333540482
Lost Levels is trash and the game we got instead is much better. Kill yourself.
>>333542784
skyworld was more difficult than the entirety of smw
>>333540885
I literally can't participate in this debate because I know I can't be objective about it.
SMW was my first video game and I played it so much that it's one of my favorites.
I got SMB3 on the GBA when I was 8 or 9 and it was fun, but it can't match the enjoyment I had/have with SMW
>>333540187
>>333540424
NSMBU is better than both. Prove me wrong.
I personally prefer SMW. SMB3 has it's merits, but I enjoy the level design of SMW more, as well as the powerups, it's much more simple and back to form. There's too much junk in SMB3.
3 was the fucking best and worldfags can suck a big dick.
>>333540187
I like SMW more but that's probably because the reasons I dislike SMB3 are due to the NES limitations.
I also wish abusing the cape in SMW wasn't so easy.
>>333543762
Prove yourself right
>>333541331
don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again.
>>333543861
How the fuck are you calling SMW 'back to form' compared to SMB3? the only game really left is the original.
>>333543762
Come on man we don't need to hear this verbal diarrhoea.
The fact is SMB3 and SMW are both patrician-tier and really whatever one you grew up with will be your favourite
>>333544086
Superior world map to both games, with the secrets making links to further worlds in a visual way. No broken powerups like Cape. Generally better level design than both. Multiplayer and Challenges add things that the two didn't have at all.
>>333544503
I grew up with 3. I think it's World = U >= 3
Love all the classic nes/Snes mario games but hate yoshi's island
Whats that about?
And smb 3
I've never played 3 and I only played World when it got released on 3DS a few weeks back. I finished it and it was fun but every time I see gameplay of 3 I always feel like it isn't for me. Am I wrong? There's the SNES remake on Wii I could try out but I'll need convincing
>>333544609
Worse artstyle, worse physics, worse music, gimmicks, lazy rehashing.
>>333543762
Nsmbu is soulless
Like most modern nintendo games
>>333542213
That's funny, I feel like it's worse in most ways.
>shit graphics relative to other games on its system unlike SMB3
>levels not as distinct from one another as SMB3
>levels less creative in general
>map reduced to level select, no roaming enemies or other cool gimmicks
>doesn't get as challenging as SMB3
>less powerups than SMB3
>cape lets you totally skip any outdoor level
>spinjump trivializes the hazard enemies and obstacles you're damaged by jumping on used to present, now they are all glorified platforms
>Yoshi breaks the game with blue shells, in many situations can give you dozens of free hits, and can be sacrificed to save yourself if you fall
>can store a power-up that drops if you get hit, lessing the already low challenge
>easy to unlock top secret area early in the game gives you access to all powerups, Yoshi, and infinite lives, as if the game needed to be any easier
>simplified physics so baby doesn't slide off a ledge and feel bad about themself
>does nothing to advance the formula; where SMB3 pushed the series and the platforming genre as a whole to new heights, SMW is content to be a rushed out rehash (with a lot of what are likely programmer graphic assets) to sell the new SNES
both games are great though.
>>333544718
I grew up with World.
Huh.
>>333545019
>Nsmbu is soulless
That's just an excuse because you know it's better so you have to attempt to disqualify it.
>>333544796
>Worse artstyle
Wrong. It looks far better than both.
>worse physics
Arguable. But it also has more jumping mechanics and flows more smoothly than both.
>gimmicks, lazy rehashing.
Wow, neither of these matter in the least!
>>333545019
>soulless meme
Neat. It means nothing!
>>333544609
>Superior World map
Bull fucking shit, the new Mario games' maps are so copy paste it's retarded. In SMW and 3 it feels like an actual map with landscapes and you can identify the memorable levels based on their placement a lot of the time. In all the new games it's just the same 8 worlds repeated
>Secrets making links to further worlds in a visual way
Not sure what you mean by that, the star world in SMW is an incredibly fun to find and play secret that's better than anything in U
>No broken powerups like the cape
Cape isn't broken, and I think you're forgetting about both raccoon and LITERAL GOD MODE FOR BABIES
>Generally better level design than both
Heavily disagree, the new games barely utilize the world. The best way to put it is that the maps only take up about 1/3 of the vertical space as SMW and 3
>Multiplayer
But the levels now have to be designed around both multiplayer and single player, making them mediocre for both instead of great for either one
>Challenges
I've only ever played this game at a friend's house so I don't remember those
>>333540187
>He thinks World was better than 3
>>333545249
Didn't even finish the 2nd world mate, even getting that far was a chore
>>333545286
It's formulaic as fuck
>>333545628
>I think you're forgetting about both raccoon and LITERAL GOD MODE FOR BABIES
The Racoon suit isnt' even in NSMBU. It actually has an actual balanced flight powerup unlike the Cape or Racoon/Tanooki.
>>333545980
Still literal god mode exists
And my mistake, but the cape and Racoon/Tanooki is still not OP. The levels are designed with a lot of verticality OR they don't give you enough space to get flight going
>>333545628
>In SMW and 3 it feels like an actual map with landscapes and you can identify the memorable levels based on their placement a lot of the time.
Yes, the same goes for NSMBU, but moreso.
>star world in SMW is an incredibly fun to find and play secret that's better than anything in U
Why don't you just admit you never played U? It has secret levels AND a Star World that is far more challenging than World's.
>Cape isn't broken
HAHAHAHAHA
>I think you're forgetting about both raccoon and LITERAL GOD MODE FOR BABIES
You mean the mechanic that scars your save file if you use it even once, doesn't actually count the level completion, and only shows up optionally if you lose more than 7 times in a row on a level? Man, that's terrible! Nothing like the Cape that lets you attack infinitely and fly over any level without a ceiling!
>>333545947
>I'm casual, so the game is "soulless"
Sweet logic broski.
>>333543762
>Extremely bland and generic art direction paired with bland and generic level design and bland and generic music
NSMBU sucks. The first NSMB was a nice little game that was refreshing since it was a brand new 2D Mario and NSMBW had its merit being based on the simultaneous multiplayer being new, but every NSMB game since has just been rehashing.
Both are cool
>>333546335
>Extremely bland and generic art direction paired with bland and generic level design and bland and generic music
None of those fit NSMBU. Are you trying to make a point?
>>333540187
Gonna be a cheep-ass and say both are good, but I like World's sprites more.
>>333546196
that looks like a 13 year old girl vomited after eating too much colorful candy and alcohol
>>333546424
All of those fit NSMBU.
>>333546280
Not casual, the game up to that was piss easy, part of why i stopped playing
Its just boring like the majority of nintendos modern platformers
>>333546196
And that image doesn't even show the areas in Star World, the secret paths, or the forest inside the mist.
>>333546458
>"It's bland and soulless!"
>"I-it doesn't have a defined, unique map!"
>"It doesn't have landmarks for memorable levels"
>map proves him wrong
>"w-well it looks too colorful and not bland!"
>>333540187
Three is more challenging but I think Word is a bit more fun.
>>333546562
>the game up to that was piss easy, part of why i stopped playing
It's harder than World or 3 by a landslide. You're just shit, mate.
>>333546424
The new art style with the 3D models are unpleasant to look at compared with the drawn sprites. It's hard to put in words but it ends up looking plastic and soulless.
>>333546646
that was my first post in this thread
>>333540187
3 is better overall, but World had a lot of interesting level design and secrets. 3 has more classics in soundtrack, but I really enjoyed the World soundtrack and how it changed when riding Yoshi. I also think World manages to feel a lot more lively and natural than 3 as well.
It's subjective of course, but I think 3 manages to look better visually . World didn't really push the SNES to it's limits, replaying it a lot of the areas look somewhat ms paint-ish and flat.
>>333541209
Mario 64 doesn't feel great now. It did remarkably well on camera and controls for being one of the first major 3d games, but it is not one of the games that hold up from that generation. The castle is mostly empty, the soundtrack and environments have a sort of eerie/lonely quality, and something just feels off about it in general. The ds remake was a little more robust with the character selection increased, but it still is one of the worst main Mario titles as far as I'm concerned.
Both are great but I would pick World since it was my first game ever
>>333540424
/thread.
3>>SMW
I hate Yoshi's sound effects and music.
And the overuse of 'mode 7'
>>333540187
SMB3 has better level design up until world 7 then it goes straight into the trash.
SMW so easy that it's rarely challenging.
>>333540187
Smb3 was absolutely garbage. It has objectively the worst and post vomit inducing art style of the whole series.
>>333546806
That's your opinion. One I disagree with. The backgrounds in U in particular look gorgeous.
>>333540187
We can at least thank Nintendo we are not arguing over whether "Super Hornio Bros 3" or "Super Hornio World" was the best porno ever.
SMB3>SMB2>NSMBU>SMW>NSMB>SMB>NSMBW>NSMB2>SMBLL
That's just your opinion, man. One I disagree with.
>>333547338
A weird opinion, but I can dig it.
>>333546646
NSMBU map is literally just the same boring world themes glued together. Certainly not as good as SMW map.
>>333540187
3 has bad sprites work, World does not.
>>333547536
World has the same themes, but less of them! And it's bland as fuck, very little color variety, and very few notable landmarks.
>>333547624
>3 has bad sprites work
elaborate
>>333540187
It doesn't matter, they're both fucking great.
>>333546335
>The first NSMB was a nice little game that was refreshing since it was a brand new 2D Mario
No, that's bullshit. I was willing to lower my standards so fucking much for a new SMB and it was still garbage.
I was so excited playing the first stage with the enemies hopping to the new Koji Kondo track. Then the soundtrack quality plummeted, the trash physics became obvious, the subpar level design began to show, the lack of variety set in, and the difficulty became near nonexistant. I've played fucking fangames better than NSMB.
>>333547776
Colourful does not mean aesthetically pleasing
>>333547939
>the subpar level design began to show, the lack of variety set in, and the difficulty became near nonexistant.
All of these are lies you saw shitposters use on /v/.
>>333547958
You're right. Good thing NSMBU's map is both, while Worlds is only one.
>>333542173
I think both of those things.
SMB3 is brilliant in every way and as an atmosphere that no game will ever reproduce, an Galaxy has an infinitely better design than Galaxy 2, which is a bit uninspired
>>333542405
Litterally the ONLY good level is that star one.
>>333548146
I don't understand why people can't accept that modern games can sometimes be superior to games from their childhood
SMB3
>that level in world 3 with the weird mountains and the guys throwing you iron balls
>that pyramid level
>that fucking level in world 5 with the green boot
>THE FUCKING TOWER that brings you from the edge of the forest up into the sky
>the little boat in the overworld od world 3
Holy shit every part of that game is infused with mistery and wonder
They both have shit graphics
I'll take halo 3 anyday
STILL THE KING
SMB2>3>World>1
>>333540187
>The neverending thread.
Both are great games.
Only a massive faggot feels the need to pick one over the other.
Can anyone explain to me why Moviebob should not be considered the posterchild of the SMB3 fanbase?
>>333548997
It has the most irritatingly catchy overworld theme ever
>>333540980
this 2bqh
>>333548525
I agree with that but i genuinely think the nsmb games are bad
>>333545019
my first console was an NES and I think NSMBU is charming as fuck
I wish it was harder though
>>333548060
I own the game. I even collected all the star coins, hoping to unlock some kind of actually worthwhile content. A Star Road/Special World equivalent, maybe. It wasn't fun. I wanted very badly for it to be fun, but it wasn't.
I think the only actually taxing part was that Mini Mario coin in the little pipe in World 8, and that was due to the controls and long walk to get there as Mini Mario rather than the level design. I don't even know what the Game Over screen looks like.
>>333545019
Hi JonTron
>all this hate for NSMBU
Garbage music and sterile art style aside, it's actually one of better the Mario platformers out there in terms of mechanics and level design.
3 has better level design.
World controls better, and has a better style.
They're both amazing games.NSMB U is up there with them.
>>333545019
NSMB DS is one of the most charming 2D Mario games.
You just hate it because it became a rehash series.
>>333551683
This.
10 years ago this game was praised by everyone.
Nowadays people shit on it and lump it together with the rest of the NSMB franchise because >muh rehash
>>333540187
>>333540187
3 had the better levels and power ups, World had the better exploration and bosses.
FACTS
SMW = SMB3 = SMG = SMG2 > SMW2 = SM3DW > SMS = SM3DL > DDP = SMB2 = SMB = SM64
