Why did Castlevania stop being good after this?
It didn't.
>>333532414
>He didn't play OOE
loser
>>333532671
OoE was a damn good game and Empty Tome is up there with Bloody Tears and Vampire Killer.
Also, would it be fair to say that Shanoa's one of the strongest non-Belmont protags?
it stopped being good after rondo of blood. metroidvania weebshit killed the series.
>>333532414
because they made it anime
>>333533292
And there he is everyone.
>>333532414
Aria of Sorrow is better than Symphony of the Night.
It has much better gameplay, the Souls for sub weapons are fun and diverse, the bosses are all challenging, the exploration is good with the world feeling more focused, and the difficulty curve is just right.
You can break SotN far too easily and everything is extremely easy even if you don't. It's one thing to look up a guide to figure out game-breaking combinations and another thing entirely for anybody with an IQ over 60 to figure out which two or three items can make the game go from easy to laughably trivial.
>>333533561
That's absolutely true.
But, then again, every Metroidvania is really easy save for OoE which can be balls hard if you don't figure out how to use and combine your glyphs.
It's funny how most threads don't actually take hold unless someone shitposts and starts a pointless shitflinging contest.
Is it proof that Castlevania fans aren't retards like the rest of the fanbases being discussed on /v/ and aren't interested in giving reddit memers any attention?
>>333532414
sotn is the only truly good one. The gba games are inferior in every way, gameplay mechanics, gfx, music, design, size of the map, number of equipment. Etc.
The ds games were decent in terms of gfx, but also inferior in every aspect. Especially the amount of moves available without having to go into a menu. No special moves, no dedicated transformation buttons.
How anyone can even compare them is beyond me.
>>333533840
It wasn't that hard for me, personally. I mostly used the Lance glyph paired with the proper elemental glyph I needed and got most of the game just fine. The only times I had to set up specific setups were against the Elevator Crab, the Shadowmaster, and Drac.
>>333532414
Because of memesters. The DS Castlevanias are as good as and arguably better than Aria.
>>333533063
Arguably one of the weakest, she's pretty much the only one that can't kill dracula without turning his own power against him (which would still be fair game if it didn't kill her)
>>333534446
How the fuck did he do all that. Man I played through the game on Xbox 360 and I didn't feel that fast.
>>333534446
SOTN
+
>large map
>great variety of enemies
>great variety of equipment
>equipment combos
>music
-
>Easy as fuck
>repetitive combat
>repetitive bosses
>equipment combos that RAPES the whole game raw
>Inverted castle is lazy as hell and non interesting
It's not perfect. In contrast, Order of Ecclesia was much more interesting and had a much better atmosphere. I only wish they would have added a Belmont mode. You know, bring back Simon or Trevor instead of putting Richter in a game every chance they get.
Richter is my favorite Belmont, but holy shit why can't I play Trevor in a Metroidvania?
Metroidvania was never good
ReBirth was better than every single Metroidvania
>>333533292
wooow! its just like your opinion!
>>333535157
I disagree. They could have picked any other Castlevania to remake other than a Gameboy one, you know like the third one or something.
Or how about making that 1999 Castlevania, Konami? Make it 2D plateformer for a change,
>>333535104
They already had Richters moveset, thats why.
>>333535361
>like the third one or something
Why remake an already perfect game?
>>333532414
OoE was great and I thoroughly enjoyed PoR
Order of Ecclesia has the best characters, mood, challenge, and sense of adventure.
Portrait of Ruin has the best whip gameplay and bosses, and the funkiest music. Mastering weapons is a great idea, but they turned it into a grindfest.
Dawn of Sorrow has the worst map design of them all, worse than Harmony of Dissonance.
Aria of Sorrow came together so well, with great aesthetics, pacing, and responsive mechanics.
Harmony of Dissonance is fun to dash around like a madman killing anything and everything, but it's got the worst bosses and literally half of the game is filler.
Circle of the Moon has the best story because of its simplicity, it has good bosses, the card system is interesting, and the map design isn't the worst, but the controls aren't quite right and bring down the whole game.
It's been too long since I replayed Symphony of the Night, I don't remember much about except that it has GOAT music and the second half of the game is mostly nonlinear.
>>333535075
It's just time efficient use of game mechanics. Sotn has lots of cancels and momentum affected actions. There's normally no need to be that efficient because the game is so easy, but it makes replaying it a bit more interesting.
>MFW each time i see that shitty "spiritual sequel" to castlevania that got kickstarted, that IGA and old devs? are working on, but the main character looks like absolute trash
>tfw want to play the DS games but the emulation on computer or phone doesn't feel right
Man the DS is fucking weird.
>>333536201
a DS is super cheap now, and games are easily piratable
>>333535892
Any website or youtube channel were I can read about these cancels?
>>333532414
>Aria of Sorrow
best art direction of the entire series
>>333534446
see >>333533561
Symphony of the Night has no difficulty curve whatsoever and while it's a very pretty looking game and set the standard for Metroidvanias, with a great soundtrack to boot, the overall challenge, gameplay and consistency was vastly better in Aria of Sorrow.
Some of the boss fights in Aria were truly intense like Death or Julius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjyku6HuUIg
>>333536435
Nah it costs too much still
>>333537323
>everything should be free
This is how we spot a retard.
>>333533063
Fuck. Time to play it again.
Any tips for my fifth playthrough? Maybe something like a "nuzlocke" thing?
>>333536492
Actually yes. https://sites.google.com/site/darkwavestyle/games-research/castlevania-symphony-of-the-night-ps1-psp-360
>>333532414
I don't know what the fuck your talking about that one and Dawn of sorrow is the best in the series
>>333537438
Nah I'm just saying it costs too much. Maybe 20$
>>333533561
Aria gives you a ridiculous amount of HP from the get go which nullifies all challenge the could throw at you unless you deliberately gimp yourself.
Controls are certainly not smoother than SOTN.
There is little in the way of sequence breaking, which is bad for a Metroidvania.
Souls are a neat concept but it encourages grinding, more than anything in SOTN, unless you know how to tamper with the RNG values.
Furthermore, DOS had better variety of Souls.(to bad the Weapons in that game are mostly shit compared to AOS)
And " the bosses are all challenging" is just such a ridiculous statement, unless you consider fighting a random Great Armor the epitome of boss design.
>>333536593
I just remember a lot of mudded blue and grey due to handeld limitations.
Go play Rondo.
Unless you are talking about Ayami Kojima then yeah, her designs in that game are pretty good.
>>333537257
You perhaps interested in a 300% boss hp mod?
>>333537538
I know you are implying its tech is so garbage it should cost only that much. Thats why you are a retard.
>>333537680
It's a DS. It's old as fuck.
>>333537774
And you can get one for ten bucks used.
How do you think this game will turn out?
>>333537513
Thanks, brother.
I love cuhrayzee shit and SOTN is one of my all time favorite games.
>>333537848
Stop complaining.
>>333537572
You don't need any HP in SOTN since the enemies have way, way more poor moves. Not like Aria's hard, but SOTN's difficulty is not relevantly different either.
>>333537969
Or?
There's literally nothing wrong with PoR
>>333537932
Its going to be a solid IGAvania, judging from the progress posts.
>>333532414
Konami kept decreasing the budget. Nothing complicated.
>>333538058
>smug anime face
The sign of a defeated weeaboo
>>333537572
>Unless you are talking about Ayami Kojima
those are nice, but I was referring to the rest of it as well
>>333538471
How was I defeated? Please do tell, reddit face using champion of the people.
>>333538503
Why is Mina so underrated?
>>333533063
I played OoE, while I enjoyed it, I still don't think it deserves all the praise it gets.
Artwork was a HUGE plus though, going from generic anime to a much more clasic, western look was the way to go. Music was fantastic. The bosses are probably the best in the metroidvania line, specially the bigger ones that require some platforming.
But still, it feels a bit lacking, Dracula is a massive disappointment, it has a pretty weak story, I just feel theres something missing from the game, I don't like the weightless feel of Shanoa, though I understand it's due to the gameplay and level design, wich is weak in my opinion, there are not any particularly memorable levels other than the library or the lighthouse.
Maybe I was just burnt on metroidvania at this point, I'd give it a 7/10.
>>333537959
Enjoy bruh. If you're going to play and have a stream setup I'd be interested in watching
>>333538721
>bland, useless, flat
She's rated just right. She is the Nia of the game, here to make Yoko look good
>>333538721
because westerners like to be pegged harder by domineering women
>>333539527
I bet you like it when your wife fucks other men while she works while you sit at home waiting for her dick to fuck you in the ass
>>333539774
>violently defensive of the miko no one else cares about
I know you probably got a lot of spare time since you got laid off after the reboot but get off the board, drac
