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What's the general opinion for this game, /v/?
Is it any good?
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It's basically truck simulator in space, with occasional laser battles.
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>>333518806
>le truck simulator meme
Care to explain why this stuff is thrown quite a lot when talking about E:D?
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>>333518606

A comfy ocean of content that is miles wide but only one inch deep.

combat is cool, trading is mediocre, and there's no goal so unless you've got a good imagination there's not much lasting incentive to keep playing for more than a week or two.
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mile wide, inch deep.

if you're even remotely in to space sims, you could legitimately spend 15-20 enjoyable hours learning the game, getting to see all of the neat features and such.

After that, all there is to do is grind painfully slow, shallow, and boring currency/faction systems for bigger ships for about ~400 hours until you get the biggest ship and then your done.
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>>333519028
>>333519086
Assuming the game features a galactic fidelity close to Space Engine's one, i'm sold.
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>>333518971

the scale is massive and the mechanics of spaceflight are spot-on but the actual content is incredibly repetitive and boring after about... three hours
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>>333519251
somewhat. there are some neat things such as oblong planets to find and visiting Sag* A, but its an exact scale model of the milky way, so it will probably take ~10 hours of exploring to discover something of note.
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>>333518606
Ask the Elite general on /vg/ :^)

It's utter fucking garbage.
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didn't they say something about being able to enter planets and land with mechs or am I thinking of something else?
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>>333519710
That's Evochron.

Although you can land on empty barren planets in Elite and ride around in retarded dune buggy for bonus 60$.
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>>333519710
new expansion, horizons. again, interesting at first,very shallow.

thats another thing though. Unless they decide to make a change, expect to pay a full $40 for each expansion + repackage.
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>>333518971
Its like the people that say EVE is a spreadsheet simulator but have never actually played EVE.
I don't know the scientific term, but its some sort of 'lying to yourself so you don't have to try it and fail' thing.
You can replace fail with, lazy, poor or uninterested.
Basically its shitposting for yourself.
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>>333518606
Cool game that you have to buy again every three months just to get dlc.

In other words don't buy this cash cow dribble mediocre game. They pulled a destiny.
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>>333518606
I liked it for like 10 hours.

It's massive as fuck but the content is about as sparse as a house in a cornfield. The game is maximum comfy, though.

The thing is they had the balls to charge for content that they had no place charging for later. If they're going to play it like that they can fuck right off.
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>>333519904
You're retarded.
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>>333520202
calling me retarded dosn't prove me wrong
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On a mechanical level it's pretty good.
On a content level it's abysmal.
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>>333520352
It's not good even on a "mechanical" level.
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It's shit
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>>333518606
The controls are really fun and intuitive

However the content is sparse as fuck and it is a REAL FUCKING SHAME because it could be something great
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>>333520451
The sound design is excellent. The flight system albeit gimped is decent. Landing and taking off are fun.
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>>333519904
EVE really is a spreadsheet simulator. I know because I've played it.
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>>333520551
>The sound design is excellent.
Agreed.

>The flight system albeit gimped is decent.
Too gimped, was much beter in early beta.

>Landing and taking off are fun.
Seriously? For a couple of times, I guess, then it becomes a chore like the rest of the game.

Also, graphics are nothing special and get more dated as the time goes on.
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>>333520848
I mean, I'm salty as fuck I even bought ED, but you have to admit it the core gameplay and mechanics are solid.

That's without the time spent when I used frontier's launcher
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>>333521143
>action
>ADVENTURE
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>>333521516
Categories generated from Steam tags.
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>>333521143
Not really. The core gameplay is pretty standard fare for open world space sim. It's a minimum viable product.
Trading is unimaginative, mining is terrible, exploration is pressing a button.

I guess flight mechanics are suitable for someones tastes, even great. I can't agree since I played it before all those restrictions and balancing was put in place.

Also, I've played I-War 2 ans Freespace 2.

It holds a lot of promise for solid mechanics tho.
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>>333521602
>steam tags
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>>333521516
>no VISION
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>>333521740
>manually sorting out 4XX games
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>>333521706
>Trading is unimaginative, mining is terrible, exploration is pressing a button.
Just like EVE. :^)
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>>333521816
>not using depressurizer
Do you even Steam?
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>>333521956
That's exactly what depressurizer did for me though. Sorted my games by steam tags.
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i considered getting it just to use Voice Attack with the Astra pack, and talk to my spacefu all day while drifting aimlessly about.
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>>333522071
>using the autosort feature
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>>333521827
I don't really care about EVE and even then I know that economy there is dynamic and player-driven not random +/-1% price change or heavy handed dev regulation.

Also, exploration is better, you have more things to find at least besides more and more palette swaps of textured spheres.
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>>333522158
EVE online is a big social experiment, anon.
At least on EVE you can have _______________________________________________________________________fun.
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>>333519274
>the mechanics of spaceflight are spot-on
lul wut
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>>333522398
the flight is one of EDs strenghts

you can turn off all flight assists and handle all your thruster balancing yourself to do some crazy space dogfighting shit
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The only fun had in the entire game is learning the basics. The rest is pure grind doing the same shit over and over in an incredibly bland lifeless universe.
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>not playing the superior space game
I'm training right now so i will be able to fly better stuff/use better days! So exciting
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>>333522509
Exacly, should be called Elite: Honeymoon.
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>>333521143
I think you could refund that at 103 minutes
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>>333522712
It's a key given by frontier, not bought on Steam.
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>>333522662
>30 days to train a single skill
>"superior" space game
Please, leave.
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>>333522662
I'd love to but it doesn't have FPS controls.
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I love euro truck sim but this was extremely boring in my opinion, just lining up your ship and making jumps. Not really immersive at all.
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>>333520543
They need to fix the quest system. If they get that right it could be ok. [/spoiler] As soon as I get back from the distant worlds expedition I'll look at it again.
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Excellent game marred by sparse, repetitive content. Still better than Scam Citizen by a longshot, though.

>Star Citizen
>Flight game
>No trackIR support and shitty HOTAS support
>B-But we got GOLF CARTS
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>>333519086
>After that, all there is to do is grind painfully slow, shallow, and boring currency/faction systems for bigger ships for about ~400 hours until you get the biggest ship and then your done.

A combination of Robigo and Fehu got me a well outfitted Imperial Cutter, Python, and ASP and I still have 200 M credits left. Took me about 60 hours. I stopped playing after that because there was nothing left to do.
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>>333522662
>heavy drone op V over basic cap skills
fix your shit
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>>333523018
Yeah I got me a nicely outfitted ASP and then started to get bored

Exploring planets was ok for a bit but the glitches with the rover put me off
im waiting on multicrew to come back
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>>333522864
Because only retards compare it ETS.

ETS has comfy ever changing landscape, roads, traffic and traffic rules, different types of caro that affect your driving.

In ED it's hauling -EBIN TEXT STRING- in a straight line from A to B while jerking your benis to britcuck porn.
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>>333518606
Its fun with an actual hotas, but the game has no real progression.
Its more fun with friends, but you really have to make your own fun.
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>>333523000
It had track IR support, they just broke it with the updates
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>>333523000
nice memes
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>>333522497
>the flight is one of EDs strenghts
lol, you just aim at your destination and press go. There isn't even any gravity.

>dogfighting
oh I thought this was a space game not fucking WW1. why the fuck would spaceships dogfight and not just laser/missile each other from hundreds of miles away?
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>>333523261
>but you really have to make your own fun.
like pretty much every sandbox game ever
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I only wish that you didn't start out so dirt-poor and worthless. The game would be 1000% better if you started out with a better ship than the Sidewinder so you can get right to combat if you want. Having to grind for 5 hours mining or trading just to get a decent ship and play the main draw of the game is pretty fucking shitty. Basically, game needs less grind and more combat scenarios, especially combat scenarios where you won't get fucked(why the fuck are all the fucking pirates I find ace pilots who come in squads of 4?!). Would also be nice to have player alliances where someone with tons of money could buy a big flagship that smaller ships could dock in.

The amount of content in the game isn't even an issue to me, there's enough to support a good game, it's just how much of it you'll never see because it's so much grind between finding/being able to do new things.
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>>333522662
>space game
>click to move
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>>333523192
Why would i want cap skills at this point? I am not really interested in flying capital ships yet, and i am training drone skills because i'd like to use drones more.
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>>333523405
this is your typical eve player
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>>333523229
its space engine with a purpose

I can experience the ETS scenery driving to work
I cant fly around space just yet so I like flying around space, taking pretty pictures and making numbers go up.
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>>333523000
>ed internet defense force shows up
>ITS A GREAT GAME MUCH BETTER THAN STAR CITIZEN GUYS I SWEAER
Not fooling anyone, Jacob.
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>>333518971
Because that's what it was before the expansion.

Only saying before expansion because I didn't play it yet and he's right. If you wanted to make money fast you'd be trucking all day long until you got enough money to afford a ship that isn't shit so you could do Bounty Hunting Missions.
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>>333523461
What's wrong with that faggot? Should everybody be flying fucking capital ships?
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>>333523336
>like pretty much every sandbox game ever
Can I build my castle in this sanbox?

I know I cant.
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>>333518606
It's OK. You'll fall in love with the flight model, only to realize there's almost nothing to do, and it's grindy as fuck. I get drunk and grief people every now and again but there's no depth to any of the content
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>>333520261
EVE is nothing more than a MUD with a GUI
the 3d aspect or visuals are pointless, because its all command/hotbar based attacks. with 0 manual aim and 0 manual movement. you could have it be a text based MUD and it would be an identical experience

ive played EVE. ive played MUDs like EVE before EVE creators were potty trained

the people saying its a truck simulator, is because it actually fucking is,
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>>333523560

Capacitor, you mong
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>>333523341
You can do okay shit in a sidewinder
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>>333523313
sensor ranges limit your engagement range
and yes the best players blast you with lazers right at the edge of their range
but a good pilot in a shit ship can outplay a shit player in a endgame ship.
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>>333523405
because they boost your essential stats and help you fit full builds.

drone skills are okay but you need to get the basics down first. CPU, power and AWU are all more important.
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>>333523486
ED had this feature for ages though.
>scam citizen shills show some pointless boring fight
>it's the best gaem ever guise
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>>333523462
>its space engine with a purpose
There is no purpose but your bank account and collecting ebin achivements.

>I cant fly around space just yet so I like flying around space, taking pretty pictures and making numbers go up.
90% of that is a flat galactic background, the rest is repetetive palette swaps. Wow wee.
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>>333523486
>Hurr I can walk on my ship
Yawn. Call me when the game has remotely decent flying of the actual damn ship instead of an endless dev cycle of broken feature creep and immersion gimmicks.
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>>333523486
>>333523721
stop shilling you queers
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>>333523486
That video really fucking bothers me. The amount of G's that would be pulling on that guy would be throwing him all over that cabin.
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It's a good time killer if you enjoy some relaxing space trucking. Hours just fly by when you're trying to deliver a shipment of food to a space port several jumps away.
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>>333523670
i have cpu management at lvl 5, electronic upgrades at lvl 3, energy grid upgrades at lvl 4, power grid management at lvl 5, and weapon upgrades at lvl 4. I recently re activated my account after 3 years absent, so i've just been spending time training for some new ships and fittings. Slowly training for other stuff.
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>>333523873
The amount of Gs that a person would experience during that kind of space combat would probably kill them anyway
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>>333523641
Yeah, but not against anyone with a ship bigger than a Vulture, or with any good weapons. Plus it's just not worth putting good weapons on because of its abysmal armor and not even that great of speed.
You should be able to choose between a Vulture or two or three other similarly sized ships when you start, imo. Even being able to pick from a selection of tiny ships like the Sidewinder would be better than 'fuck you, have a paper airplane with a laser pointer taped to it'
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>>333523873
The ship has a gravity generator.
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>>333523721
>ED had this feature for ages though.
/edg/ here, you're hilarious, mongrel.

*dies again*
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>>333523873
>G's
>in Space
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>>333523486
Are there ANY star citizen webms that aren't this one?
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>>333523873
>G's
>space

nice try hombre
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>>333524014
acquire sidewinder
kill people
don't upgrade ship
save money
acquire eagle

mission complete
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>>333524123
>i don't know how physics work
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>>333523801
>has no purpose
except these things you can do

>space is repetitive
tell me how SC is gonna hand make every single planet and star in every system

I just like space games and ED is the one that's actually "out" right now
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>>333524214
>I don't know that space is almost Gravity free
Hurr Durr
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I enjoyed it a lot. Super comfy. Mining was a lot of fun for a bit once you get a setup capable of mining a whole asteroid in 30 seconds. Was making like 1.5mil every 30 minutes with travel time.
Did bounty hunting for a while, that was fun but not as profitable for me.
Smuggling was interesting until i kept getting pulled out of warp every time i jumped.

All in all, put about 80-100 hours in it. Paid $40 for it on g2a so i feel i got my monies worth.
Stopped playing when i realized the next ship i wanted was like 30million credits more than i had, and didnt want to grind for 20 hours.
Using HOTAS made the experience much more immersive
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>>333524025
>>333524123
>>333524209
>>333524285

pls

guys

stop
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>>333524209
You have to be pretending, they actually use that as measurement of gravitational pull
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>>333524209
Sure hope you're just pretending to be retarded.
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>>333524213
>acquire sidewinder
>kill people
top brabkek

the only people you will kill in this bucket are your fathers lad
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>>333524285
>i don't know what G acceleration truly is
You're pathetic.
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>>333524025
And? G-forces would still be exerted on the body because of all that acceleration
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>sound in space
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>>333524213
>kill people
>with a sidewinder
>without upgrading weapons
Good luck man. When pirates always come in groups of 2 or 3 really good pirates, usually with Vultures, and upgraded weapons, you're not gonna last long with that strategy.
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>>333524328
This is a really good explanation of the game honestly.
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>>333518606
I just got my vive too, so I'm eager to know. How is this game and how is it with VR?
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>>333524025
it literally doesn't.
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>>333523873
Maybe he's training to go super sayin?
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>>333524398
Guess you have brain issues

Literally just shoot other sidewinders or other ships that are already getting taken down by other ships.

>>333524492
Pirates attack only people with bounties or cargo. Not that hard to dodge pirates. Don't attack people in a group.

This game is easy mode on a whole other level. The only challenge is forcing yourself to play and grind long enough due to a lack of stimulating content.
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>>333524471
Mostly it's explained in sci-fi games or stories that sounds are made up to better immerse the pilot and help him react to his surroundings.
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>>333524471
Star Wars explains it by saying the ship simulates the sound in order to allow the pilot to make use of all their senses. I think it's an elegant solution

>>333524553
One of the few games worth playing with VR, if you're impressed by its graffix it's a pretty nice experience.
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>>333524471
In Elite? There's some bullshit explanation that the ship's computer simulates sound for what you're seeing through your canopy. I guess space madness can set in if you don't hear sound for what's happening around you
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>>333524558
I'd buy it rite nao if i knew my pc was even remotely capable of running it

better wait for pascal
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>>333524328
I still can't believe that some people actually managed to grind so much money to get Anacondas.
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>>333523505
The expansion literally only gives you the opportunity to land your spacetruck on a planetary outpost.
Oh sorry, I lied. You can also do multipart fetchquests now.
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>>333524468
If a ship has artificial gravity then it can exert gravitational forces that counteract natural G-forces. Star Trek calls this "inertial dampeners"
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>>333524492
It works at resource points with lots of greens backing you up. Just shoot the guys with wanted levels.
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>gone are the days of Beta
>everyone ripping around in Vipers with class 1 and class 2 cannons
>cannons could tear apart anything
>you either died endlessly or got gud and fought back

Beta fucking ruled. Then the forumdads started bitching
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>>333524710
Unless you have a good reason to buy it now, I'd recommend waiting until the final game is actually released.

Right now it's extremely bare and everything in a perpetual state of being updated/redone
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>>333524123
Holy shit
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>>333524854
Cannons are still alright

The forums are the absolute worst though.
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It was pretty, but the release was a piece of shit.
Space travel basically being
>aim direction
>loading screen
>aim again
>loading screen
Repeat as many times as systems being jumped is basically absolutely shit.
Supercruise was little better, approaching a random canister in space taking the same amount of gravity-overshooting as a star itself is fucking ridiculous.

I immensely enjoyed shooting shit in asteroid belts - but only really thanks to the DK2 I had.
On a monitor it got boring extremely fast.

No long term content whatsoever, just follow the next carrot on the stick before you - which hardly worked for me as I wasnt that into big ships anyway

All in all, frontier can go suck a dick and git bankrupt, buying this on release was literally cheating myself out of ever enjoying this pile of shit game, by the time I burned out on its repetitiveness - they finally put it together into an actual 1.0
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>>333524247
>except these things you can do
Same could be said about every software ever. There are things to do in Space Engine too and it looks better, has more accurate Milky Way galaxy and different assets for stellar bodies, comets etc.
Things to do in Elite are primitive, repetetive and boring.

>tell me how SC
MUH SC BOOGIE MAN MUH EVE BOOGIEMAN
Why every time you criticize ED for the empty soulless wank it is, there's always that guy who starts shitting on other games. I don't really care for both of them, now what?

>I just like space games and ED is the one that's actually "out" right now
You are free to like whatever you want, pleb. It's not like anyone cares to make you stop eating shit.
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>>333524778
OK, they could incorporate that
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>>333524710
just wait until they actually deliver. I was an early backer and I'm pretty disappointed. Their development of the game is pants on head retarded. The game is more memes and gimmicks than actual game.
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>>333524328
>Mining was a lot of fun
Dave c'mon.
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core gameplay
>godlike control customization
>godlike controls in general, fully playable on mb+kb, all hotas, or gamepad
>docking actually feels good
>graphics are nice
>sounds are nice

but the content
>missions that don't work
>fly from A to B forever
>kill X enemies in Y location forever

that *literally* all
there is nothing to do in the game but either fly from a to b or kill x. no variation ever. still wasted about 100 hours to get my conda.
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>>333525042
Did they get a buff? Last time I used them, they sounded like shit and the projectiles were insanely slow. Big downgrade from beta.

I also loved how stupidly powerful dumbfires were when the game first came out. Crusade of Love was ridiculously fun with /edg/
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>>333525164
I'm an early backer and I'm enjoying the ride

The community is toxic as fuck though, and is going to single handedly ruin the game. They're a bunch of carebears that hate the idea of pirates being able to do anything that could remotely harm them as a player
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>>333524894
>that head bob
didn't know there were chicken mounts
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>>333518606

pretty comfy game desu
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>>333525317
Once they reached a critical mass I pretty much lost interest in the game entirely. The fact that the actual gameplay itself is dogshit because the developers backseated it to work on stupid shit like social hubs and golf carts is just icing on the cake.

Games like these just don't work when you pander to carebears.
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Usually it's much worse, to the point that they're going to include a head bobbing slider because people were getting sick.
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>>333525295
>fly from A to B forever
I'd be fine with this if there were a hell of a lot more variety or better representation of astronomical phenomenon rather than all the procedural generated systems full of nothing except different colored balls.
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>>333525615
>baaaa space is empty
>waaa i want more stuff
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>>333525615
Yeah or something to do on board of your ship.
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I don't expect this game to be done in a couple years time though
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>>333525716
>literally reading with your ass
wew

also a lot of totally empty space sure makes for great gameplay
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>>333525832
Because we can
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post that webm from the perspective of that guy walking on the landing platform where a hornet does a sick flip.
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>>333523621
>>333520723
>how to be wrong at everything
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>>333518606
Even more boring than eve, has about 5 hours worth of content and everything else is tedious grind. This is inexcusable in a single player game. Go play star control 2 instead.
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>>333525304
On a Cobra the non-gimballed are really nice, not sure why you felt the projectile speed was too slow, you'll miss a few shots but you won't even land beam lasers 100% of the time so as long as you make sure to actually chase whatever you're firing at they're better than multi-cannons imo, or at least more practical because you don't run out so quickly (depending on what you're doing of course).
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>>333525615
>>333525763
>>333525901

Indeed, and their retarded stance of "lol no you shouldnt have clan/guild/corp communication, just fly around silently with nothing to distract you from the tedium and repetitiveness of our shit game!!!! space is so lonely, also copypastey
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WHEN IS ANECDOTAL /edg/ COMING BACK

GOD DAMN IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTT
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>>333526374
IN SPACE NO ONE CAN HEAR YOU YAWN
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>>333525317
this is the biggest problem

Open should be the only option
I played ~100 hours and probably ran into a handful of actual players in open
I think once one guy tried to kill me but its easy as fuck to just submit and jump away if your ship isnt total shit.
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>>333526458
Go make one

I miss crusading at Lave with /edg/ anons
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>>333526458
In june when the DEALAYED crafting update comes out.
>tfw half a year without content
>tfw staying tuned
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ED Thread
Turns into starcitizen

This game needs a wider variety of missions.
It needs the ability for people to create their own missions or contracts so that they can interact with other people or npc's

If I'm a trader and I find a good route that has a shitload of pirates, I want to be able to pay for protection.
And vice versa, if I'd like to be a hired gun to actually have some meaningful combat.
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fucking love it
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Think I can make it?
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>>333526695
More populated systems had plenty of players when I last played a month ago, enough that every RES in a system always had several players.
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So i need to fly about 40 jumps or so, to get my new free ship that i got a mail about. But the problem is that my starter ship has so little fucking fuel i ahve to stop in a station every second jump or so, which is tiresome. And at last try, 15 jumps away i fucking ran out of fuel. So what to do?
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>>333527301
Self destruct. Running out of fuel is a death sentence.
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>>333527227
you will likely perish.

>>333527301
call the fuel rats if you're legitimately stuck.
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>>333527227
>0 shields
better hope you'll be able to repair your systems
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>>333527301
http://www.fuelrats.com/i-need-fuel/
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>>333527301
R E F U N D
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>>333527513
the shields wouldn't help him to begin with.

it's you, your hull, and heat in supercruise.
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>>333527406
Thanks!
>>333527609
Bought it long ago
>>333527392
Yeah but that won't solve the problem since i need to go there
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>>333524093
>/edg/ here
Feel free to go back and continue to complain about forumdads rather than shit up /v/ any more than it already is.
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I made it, bros
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>what do you mean the game is lacking in content
>but you have billions of planets to explore anon
6months without a major update from its first expansion and people still defend braben.
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>>333528028
>rather than shit up /v/ any more than it already is.
We need to delete this thread then.
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>>333528064
>loading screen sim 2016
ur not my bro, vegetable
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>>333528064
nice
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>>333518971
It's what Yahtzee said
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>>333525317
>The community is toxic as fuck though, and is going to single handedly ruin the game. They're a bunch of carebears that hate the idea of pirates being able to do anything that could remotely harm them as a player

Elite Dangerous has the same problem. A large portion of the space sim fanbase consist of old dudes from the 80's and 90's who just want a carebare adventure like they had back in the day.
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>>333527682
Right, I meant hull.
not really I haven't played in a while
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>>333528121
Also,

>59.99
They added elite on that package knowing that you only need horizons to play the full game.

Also they have a paint package for a ship called the imperial clipper. The paint package is 7 $ and contains several different colors including white. Imperial clippers default paint is white.
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>>333528523
SC initially hard a large proportion of old men who spent their younger life playing space sims, but now it's mainly full of role players, furries, weeaboos and other sub-human scum that was to live out their gary stu fantasy
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>people who bought multiple copies of the game just to roleplay different characters

This game will survive just from senile dads who think that space games can't get any better than Elite. They're holding the entire genre back with this shitty mindset. All SC has to do is release a stable open beta (probably never) and it'd probably blow Elite right out of the fucking water.
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>>333528631
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>>333528637
While SC's is pretty cancerous, E:D legitemately sabotages it's own gameplay by allowing you to transfer between solo and open without consequence.
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>>333528637
>but now it's mainly full of role players, furries

Oh I knew this thread was missing something. Thanks for the reminder.

https://youtu.be/blPpnnSOiwk
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>>333518606
Has the potential to be awesome but suffers from incompetent dev team and terrible game design decisions.
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>>333528892

Why is this bad? Let people play how they want to play.
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>>333528980
this shit never gets old

THE AUTISM... THE... AUTISM...
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>>333528861
>Scam citizen
>Better than E:D because it has golf carts and walking around on ships
>The actual ships have terrible controls and shit HOTAS support, with no head tracking support so you're stuck looking forward like you're playing ace combat.
Yeah, no. I have both and Scam Citizen is dogshit by comparison. E:D's main problems are repetitive content and carebears making it so you're allowed to transfer all your shit to Solo-mode if you're afraid of losing valuable things. SC's problems are significant and rife through all elements of the game. In fact there's barely a 'game' there at all.
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>>333529078
Hey, let me play with godmode and infinite credits then! Dumbass.
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>>333529128
Having tested it out during the open alpha they had a couple months back I completely agree. They are way behind where I expected them to be based on their proposed schedule.
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>>333529078
If they want to play Solo that's fine, but it's bullshit that you transfer all your content between the two. Imagine Eve where you could haul a bunch of hyper valuable shit without fear because you could just log off from multiplayer and do the trade run in singleplayer, then hop back into multiplayer after you've cashed out.

It completely removes elements like piracy and bounty hunting from the game as far as PvP is concerned. It's straight up cheating.
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>>333529078
Im alright with a solo mode but you should not be able to use it to your advantage in open

it should be a separate save
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>>333523961
>It's a good time killer if you enjoy some relaxing space trucking. Hours just fly by when you're trying to deliver a shipment of food to a space port several jumps away.

>food

Slaves and rare metals get you the most cash.
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>>333529128

Elite has a lot more problems than just "carebears" and repetitive content. You're only scratching the surface. I only have faith in SC because they MAY do better in where Elite failed spectacularly but that is if it ever stops milking people for 1k ships and ever makes significant progress. The base game of Elite is so broken that there's no amount of fixing that you can do to salvage what's there.
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Anyone played this in VR yet?
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I fucking love this game.
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>There will never be 15+ wing raids to destroy Thargoid mother ships or cosmic alien horrors
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>>333529762
LOL, with a bit more contrast your screenshot will look exactly like FFE. Fucking poorfags.
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>>333529565
>SC being fixed
When they spend all their development time purposefully avoiding actual game-play related features instead of immersion gimmicks, that's a pretty big red flag. They are selling this shit on 'muh cinematic experience' and hoping VR carries it through the launch's cash-out phase.

We've all seen this movie before, anon. I'll take E;D any day over SC so far. At least flying in E:D feels like they actually put some effort into it.
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>>333529960
>thargoid invasions are reskinned combat zones
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>>333530069
>When they spend all their development time purposefully avoiding actual game-play related features instead of immersion gimmicks, that's a pretty big red flag.
That's a lot of big words from elitefag. Stones and glass houses.
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>>333527406
>>333527513
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>>333530623
Yeah, thanks for the memes, reddit.
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>finished up elite in combat and now i have exactly zero onus to kill so much as a fly

as it's your only rank that's broadcast, perhaps its akin to the warning patterns found on some animals, and earned accordingly

snake pond, son
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>>333530208
This will most likely be the case unfortunately.....
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>>333530809
>thargoids are just another power in powerplay
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>This game and its squandered potential
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>EVE is a spreadsheet come back after 60 days of training so you can play simulator
>ED is a big empty nothing with not a god damn thing to do and no fucking story
>Star Scamizen will never fucking happen

When will we get a decent modern space game?
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>>333531274
Just give up and fuck around in Starsector like the rest of us
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>>333531274
No Man's Sky.

just kidding NEVER EVER
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>>333531274
Soon. :^)
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>>333520723
Except it's not. As a whole at least. EVE becomes spread-shitty when you get too much into trading. I just loot stuff and trade them at ask price, and that makes me enough to pay sub and buy shiny things to blow up. And it's not even a tiring and long grind. I think people that hate this game are autistic enough to want to become good at every aspect of it, which is really impossible.
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>>333531412
>Starsectpr
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>>333528509
Yahtzee can eat my balls, along with all his elitism.
Well, he could, if he wasn't such a motor mouth.
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The one thing I hate about it is the grind. I've just barely managed to get an Anaconda, but I had to buy back down since I couldn't afford to upgrade it.

I just want my huge ship.
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>>333522801
It's timidly starting to get those. You have first-person camera and manual controls now. Your guns still shoot themselves though.
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>>333531268
you want real depression/anger?

go read through the official forums
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>>333518606
>Buy game for $50, pay an extra $30 just to land on planets

You would think landing on planets would be a core part of a space sim instead of ridiculously priced dlc.
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>>333531750
>The one thing I hate about it is the grind.

but anon, that IS the game
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Reminder that SPAZ 2 is 3D and going to be shit
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>>333531465
Not him but it's not a very interesting space game. You don't fly shit and the combat is done through generic MMO 'press button to watch avatar do all the fighting for you'. It's a spreadsheet simulator because the bulk of your interaction is just fucking with menus for 95% of the game, with 5% being actual combat.
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>>333531938
>Buy a game for $50, pay an extra $30 just to land on planets, customize your face, have multicrew and get missions
wait, i've seen those last three somewhere else...
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>>333531809
Honestly I would be fine even with TPS a la Freelancer. Too bad full control is never gonna happen because it requires some insane netcode to sync all that.
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>>333518606
what kind of fucking idiot masochist thought that flying in a straight line for fucking 20 minutes just to get somewhere in a system makes for good gameplay?
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>>333532654
but the REALISM anon

if it's REALISTIC that will make up for the lack of content
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>>333532654
BUT ANON

MUH REALISTIC SCALE
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>>333532654
Most likely your dad.
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>>333532085
I don't completely disagree that it can be tedious to some but calling it a spreadsheet simulator doesn't do it justice. You could call it an "at the helm" simulator. You are basically in command of a warship in space, you tell your crew/AI what to do and they do it. Would you imagine how dumb (and kinda awesome) dogfighting 20km long behemoths with 15000 crew would be?
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>>333531274
X4 WHEN
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every time I try getting back into it, I fall asleep at my desk
not enough happens in space
its just vast lengths of nothing to traverse.
I'm not vast minded enough to strive to build a large space trade empire so I'm probably not this games target audience.
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>>333531750
Anacondas are worthless in comparison to an FAS

Huge hardpoints are an absolute waste since the only ships that have them have shit maneuverability and thus cant utilize huge points effectively.
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>>333533029
We call it a spreadsheet simulator because most of your time is spent in the market and waiting for training to finish.

It's not a fucking game.
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Didn't they announce "Multi crew" ships for ED, im thinking that means ships even bigger than the biggest we have now to justify having multiple players.
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>>333533186
>still believing cucksoft lies
Five years or more. Remember how Rebirth disappeared from the radar for a couple of years?
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>>333533208
>I'm not vast minded enough to strive to build a large space trade empire
>large space trade empire
You're thinking of X3, you can't build shit in ED.
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>>333533335
>to justify having multiple players
>Implying they need to justify anything
They'll just shit it it out as another half baked gimmick minigame.
>WOW DUDE CONTROL PIP ALLOCATION ON YOUR BUTTBUDDYS ADDER EBIN
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>>333518971
Everything costs an incredible amount of money, back then when I played there was a semi-exploit where you would carry rare goods from X to Y, repeating that process a lot of times to gain money and "specializing" in basically space trucking to be able to actually progress in the game (ship-wise), it doesn't help the way the multiplayer works, which is absolutely retarded (there can only be a few dozens of players at once in an instance, if there are more than let's say 20 (I don't recall the exact number) they will be phased in another instance, leaving only those X players + NPCs on that instance), thus because of that playing with friends and being able to pvp is absurdly hard.

This was a few months after release mind you, haven't tried the new expansion.
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>>333533335
This would really never work.

>Helm! 60 degrees port!
>nothing happens
>HELM WHAT THE FUCK
>helm is AFK
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>>333528064
fucking casual
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>>333533218
That's the "i want to be good at everything now" thing I just talked about.

>most of your time is spent in the market

No. You can get all the monies without meddling a lot with the market.

>waiting for training to finish

So you want to fly a Titan on day 1?
Just do stuff with what you allready have. You can.

Am I being baited right now? That's okay...
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My main issue like everyone said is the shallowness. But its not too bad, its pretty immersive besides the fact that your toon is forever strapped to the pilots seat. I just saved up enough to get a t7 through trading. Thing is a lightly armored truck. I don't really mind the flying in a straight line so much.

The only thing I really hate is when the game leaves you stuck coming out of fsd. I've been stuck on that screen for ten minutes before exiting the game. This happens way too often and I doubt it will ever be fixed.
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>>333533935
>So you want to fly a Titan on day 1?

Of course not but having to waste real world time on progression is anti-fun. Let me play minigames or complete quest or fucking anything to speed up the training.
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>>333532952
Scale is one the things ED does right though.
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How would you fix elite dangerous in a single update?
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>>333534171
In one star system it should not take nearly as long as it does to go from A to B, given that

NOTHING

FUCKING

HAPPENS

between A and B.
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>>333534062
Then it's just a matter of a different approach to fun. For me flying a new ship I trained for weeks (while at the meantime I was doing anything but sitting on my ass and waiting) is like opening a christmas gift. Not a reason to shit on the game.
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>>333534273
what is relativistic acceleration
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>>333534407
Obviously some people are going to enjoy it but a lot of us don't. We want progression.
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>>333534254
Allow single player (or pirvate servers) with mods.

Done. Infinite content for free.
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>>333534254
Give me a chance to beat one of the FD dev monkeys with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire.

Sandro Sammarco, I choose you.
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>>333533186
Ok no joke X:Rebirth is pretty good now. It just took years of updates but it a pretty solid game now.
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>>333534602
But there is active progression. Just not the "grind for xp - level up" kind. You actually get better at doing things, you become wealthier, more powerful etc. It just might be what you personally consider fun or fullfilling as progression. Don't generalise and say what it ABSOLUTELY IS to is what I'm trying to say. And I'm leaving it here...
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>>333535082
>Patch 2.3 literally fixed everything
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>>333523721
>ED has multi crew
dont lie you fuck
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>>333535161
this is accurate, at least for me.

i was nowhere near as good in a fight when i started compared to now, sidewinder or not. the majesties of flight assist off were only relatively recently made apparent to me. i can put a lot more, worth a lot more in a cargo hold and print credits by the millions. i'm faster navigating around, quicker to dock, harder to kill, and far more resolute in bad circumstances. i've killed my fair share of other players in defense and fun, and now i'd balk at the suggestion of actually executing another commander without cause.

between my fer-de-lance and cutter, i've got more money than i know what to do with, even if it's only well north of 100mil right now, liquid.
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>>333535787
I... um... think you are on the wrong post string. I was discussing EVE. Thread got sidetracked a bit... yeah...
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>>333535787
>>333536454
Heartly lol to be honest.
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>>333536454
>>333537079
yeah fuck my mouth and call me sally but that was completely detached

don't blame me, though, i've played the shit out of eve too.

lost its magic a long time ago.
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>>333537761
It's ok...
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>>333525317
>They're a bunch of carebears
Haven't heard that term in a while.
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>tfw over 300 hours played

BravenVision got me bois.
Muh Fer-De-Lance
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I know it's unlikely but I hope they release the server and allow people to mod it when Frontier goes under.

Just look at steamdb, it's embarrassing how few people play it. And most of them play in solo mode so the empty space is also deserted.
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>>333525317
tfw early backer
>suddenly expansion comes
>have to pay for it
>people that didnt buy into the game first get the expansion as the full game
fuck ED
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>>333538754
It gets better. each milestone is late and features shift so expect some to be part of the next "season pass"
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The game is just not very fun if you're not into autistic flight sims and oldschool space games.

People coming into Elite expecting Ace Combat in space are in for a huge disappointment.

I'd love for an Ace Combat game in space with the Elite ships, that's for sure.
For now though I get to hunt bounties at RES sites and see capships fly in and shoot shit up in Conflict Zones.
Beyond that and Community Goals, I don't really see the point in playing the game anymore.
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