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>reach Iron Keep in Scholar of the First Sin

>not one but two invader phantoms both with infinite stamina and magic who just happen to have large amounts of health and be heavy-hitters in melee (who also get in your way even if you're hollow)

>even MORE Alonne Knights spammed everywhere, bordering close to almost twenty on the way to the first boss

>the aggro range in the bridge area is nearly the whole room, meaning that the safest way to eliminate the knights one at a time is to stand still with your thumb up your ass and wait for about three of them to slowly make their way all the way down from the higher platforms, otherwise risk an attack from behind once you cross the bridge

>once you make it all the way there, the boss (Smelter Demon) is no pushover either, punishing melee players who have the audacity to attack in melee range with unavoidable fire damage without a long-reaching weapon

What the fuck were they thinking?

And before you say "git gud xD", I'm already long passed this part. I was already rocking a weapon that two shotted all the Knights. Point is that long & tedious =/= more challenging. This shit fucking sucked. It's boring enough as it is without having to artificially making what amounts to a long hallway take even longer to complete for no reason besides "dude difficulty lmao".
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Fuck the weeaboo knights and their homing greatarrows
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>>333516996
Git gud

/thread
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>>333516996
Yep I agree. That whole area was pretty disappointing. Also fuck bridge PvP, it's so boring.
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>mfw SoTFS was my first Souls game
>play DS1 after
>easy as fuck
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I agree with all your points except the last one. I killed Smelter Demon in 2 tries, both with dual broadswords, never a shield, and did not take AoE damage except for maybe twice during both fights.

He isn't that hard and his AoE effect is not constant. I added Pine Resin to my main broadsword and he went down fucking easy.
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>>333516996

>Not being immediately invaded by the Forlorn after killing the two red phantoms

Yeah, I was surprised how they pretty much kept things the same here, minus the jump between one Alonne captain and the treasure box with the zweihander.
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>>333517143
no faggot
Dark Souls II is just shit
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>>333516996
>And before you say "git gud xD", I'm already long passed this part. I was already rocking a weapon that two shotted all the Knights.
Tempted to call either bait, or lack of clarity in writing.
Equipment has no bearing on skill. A better weapon doesn't make you a more competent player.

DaS2 is kinda bullshit sometimes tho and the entire fucking place is infested with Alonne Knights so I believe it
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>>333516996
the invaders are easy, git gud

the alonne knights just require you to be careful and plan your approach accordingly, git gud

the fire damage from the smelter demon can be countered with lifegems, git gud

in short: git gud
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>Play exclusively melee chars as I don't enjoy the way the spells look in souls games nor the spell system of attunement slots and uses
>Get to smelter demon, heard people complaining about it, decide to pop an orange burr for some added fire res expecting the worst
>Body smelter, barely use 2 estus flask charges on my first go
>Think wow I must have gotten lucky
>Second play through using a different melee weapon
>Decide to not bother with an orange burr this time
>Wreck smelter again
>Played through countless times, Literally find the boss free, don't think I've even had a death to him across the multiple play throughs I've done

Saying this guy is hard is a meme or something right?
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>>333517291
Once you've played one you've played them all. I don't see how From thinks we fell for the same tricks 4 times in a row.
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>>333516996

You can easily fight those Knights one at a time even without waiting.

>Run into room
>Fight Knight who runs to you
>Go up staircase to the right
>Kill Knight on staircase
>Continue up
>Kill Knight in window with Greatbow
>Go around and kill other Knight with greatbow
>Run out
>Kill Knight who runs right at you
>Kill 2nd Knight who runs at you after him
>Lower bridge
>Kill 3rd Knight who drops down to fight you
>Kill Knight with Greatbow on bridge
>Kill the Knight who runs across the bridge to kill you
>Head across bridge
>Kill Captain to the left

This is literally the only point where you have to fight a bunch of guys now, when you have to fight the 4 Knights at the other end of the path, or you could simply go through the fog gate without aggro'ing them. They are completely optional.

No waiting with my thumb up my ass, no getting ganked by multiple enemies at once.
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>>333516996
Don't be a whiny faggot
Literally git gud
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>>333517825
I don't get it either.
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>>333516996
The smelter demon's fire damage is really not that bad. With the right armor/burrs you can counter it very effectively.

The allonne knights aggro is ridiculous though, that's true. They come all the way from other countries just to fuck you up. But you can manage to get them 1vs1 most of the time.

All the invaders are pretty BS in SotFS desu. B-team just decided to make them hard by giving them "infinity everything zomg XDDD" and ridiculous tracking.
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Man I'm glad I haven't play Dark Souls 2 in like a year and a half
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>The Iron king was wooed by some faggot showing off his glorious nippon steel
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I don't understand how people think smelter is hard, the only thing he has is gentle damage over time and an AoE that can only hit you if you haven't figured out that it happens after his jump attack

Literally every other attack is just some huge swing with zero tracking and a whole second of telegraphing before it happens

I think he just a shrekts shield shitters because he's the first boss you can't block with your Drangleic shield
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>>333516996
I bypassed smelter demon and did the Iron King on second try, what a simple boss.
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>>333517361
>his AoE effect is not constant
Yes it is.
You haven't even played it.
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>>333518289
>iron king

literally the easiest boss in the game
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>>333518289
In all the times i faced Old Iron king, i must have died a total of 3 or 4 times. And that's from him pushing me into that little lava hole in the arena.

It's a massive letdown how easy he is.
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>>333517862
Because theyre enjoyable
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>>333518490

>easiest boss
>not the sermon and those 2 priest guys

Shit, every time I died to Iron King was because of shitty hitboxes knocking me into the lava.
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>>333518490
What about covetous demon?
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>>333518490
>>333518534
Yeah when I first saw him I thought that I was going to have a hard time with him, but I only died to him because I thought he was going to do a melee attack but did a lazer attack instead.
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>>333518614
>3 summons for OIK
Why.
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>>333516996
stop complaining and get gud

Seriously, I recently played the game for the first time and didn't have much problems with Iron Keep.

>meaning that the safest way to eliminate the knights one at a time is to stand still with your thumb up your ass
Oh, did you want to rush into the room and buttonmash your way to success? Dude, learn to Dark Souls
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>they failed to make the area harder, just longer to get through and only succeeded in making it less fun to fight through

>the response to this is "get gud"

Is this just shitposting or are people unironically defending the worst entry in the series
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>>333516996
get good
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>>333518840

>OP comes in making mostly wrong complaints and assertions about an area that generally terrible players make
>Being told to be less shit is "shitposting".
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>>333518626
I died to him on my first try because he rolled on me

the fat cunt.
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What's even more bullshit is the red phantom near the leather set chest that gets two turtle knights escorting him unless you remember to clear off the roof with the bastard sword on it
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>>333518840
gittu guddu
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>>333516996

Earthen Peak was worse than Iron Keep

I'm pretty sure Sharron and the armorer dude fuck off once you kill them, and the Alonne knights are chumps. No shield and they only do modest damage so you should have no trouble killing them git gud
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>>333519024

I got eaten by him and thought he had stolen my equipment, so I ended up killing him with just my fists, not knowing my shit was still in my inventory
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>>333516996
Git gud, dont complain try aigain
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I like how you can kill everything with a +10 Lightning Mace.
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>>333516996
the smelter demon is a pushover ur just bad
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>>333518840
You can't criticize any souls game because they're all 13/10.
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Is dark souls 2 sotfs worth it? I already own it but never played it. I played vanilla ds2 though. I might be tempted to finally play scholar with all its DLC before ds3 drops in the West. Is there any online for sotfs on ps4?
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The only thing that's bullshit in Iron Keep
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>base game bosses are easy as shit
>DLC bosses are hard as fuck with huge healthpools and resistances to everything
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>>333519370
>Wanting to get shitty contest winner shield.
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>>333517825
Some people are hard workers, some lazy.

I for myslef took 3 times i think and i play every Souls game once, blind.

It's a challenge if you dont know where the good loot is hidden and you get immersed more that way
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>>333519296

Online is pretty active for SoTFS. The DLC's are the best part of the game. Other than that it's DS2 with an ENB effect, and revamped enemy/item spawns.
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>>333519296
If you haven't played the DLC then yes. Overall its a decent improvement.
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>>333519370
>flash sweat + flame ring + some mildly flame resistant armor and you barely take any damage
>bullshit
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>>333519504
It's a pyromancy though.
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Don't know where to cry so here's as good as any.

>just beat Flamelurker in DeS
>was having trouble for ages
>cheesed him by getting him behind a bone structure and smacking him while he couldn't touch me
>felt fine at the time because he'd taken me so long to beat
>read message behind bone structure after the kill
>coward

I feel fucking awful right now.
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>>333519678
can you make it back as well?
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>>333519296
If you haven't played the DLC, do it. The frozen DLC is particular felt very reminiscent of DaS1 in level design, with how large and interconnected it was. The poison/sunken one has a lot of cool puzzles and the iron one has a lot of verticality and two of the best boss fights in the game.
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>>333516996
>bordering close to almost twenty
so, 10?
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>>333517862
Isn't this every fucking game ever?
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>>333519678

Just finished a playthrough of SoTFS

Fire quartz ring+2, flash sweat, and the highest fire resistance clown suit I could put together kept me alive for all of 5 seconds, if that

It's not nearly as easy as just putting on some equipment and getting it, you have to plan for it and upgrade specific equipment
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>>333518481
I beat him and didn't even have to use much Estus.

If he did have a constant AoE, it wasn't very noticeable. Maybe you just suck.
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>>333516996

DaS2 and SotFS were shit and don't exist.
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>>333520263
But that's literally impossible unless you had full alonne armor on and fire sweat or whatever it was called
his fire aura is always on
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>>333520234
The fuck you do mate... I seriously dont understand how you can die that quickly to him.
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>>333520234
You're either bullshitting or they changed it.

I vividly remember taking as much damage as from those ground spikes in Tseldora when I had a decent fire resistance
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>>333517291
I still found DS1 pretty fucking difficult even after completing SOFTS with every distinct build I could imagine. DS1 just feels so much clunkier, slower and you only have your healing estus to help you along. Also most of the danger in DS1 are from gimmicks and area design instead of enemies like DS2.
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>game is slightly harder in some spots

>complain and cry like a little bitch because it took someone a little longer to beat than the rest of the area.

If only /v/ existed in 98' so I could read the crybaby posts about eater temple.
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>>333520403

>him

I'm talking about the lava bridge
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>>333516996
Iron Keep was pretty easy. Smelter Demon was kinda bs because of that fart attack that all newbies lose to. NPC invaders have the brain of a goddamn peanut so you could just thundercock them with a zwei over and over again.
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>>333520401
No it's not. I think at the start of the fight he has next to no fire damage AoE. It gets more powerful once he gets to arround 50% hp i think.

Still not that much of a problem. The blue smelter demon does a fuck ton more damage for instance.
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>>333519992

Shame the DLC has the worst enemy spam of the game.

Too many bosses have shit loads of hp and/or are balanced around summons too.
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>>333517143

>/threading your own post.
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>>333518840
ゲットグード
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>>333516996
I just beat this part in my ps4 the phantoms were easy to parry same the alonne knigths just dont rush the area and lure some knigths to the castle
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>>333520401
I was wearing the headless dead guy who sells you shit's armor minus the head which I kept uncovered because my guy had boss as fuck hair.

That and 2 broadswords at +10 with Pine Resin. He didn't last very long so I must not have noticed it much.
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>>333516996

i agree OP, Iron keep was already quite tedious pre-SOTFS and now it's a total chore.

that being said though, it's pretty much the only of the 4 "big soul" areas that was even remotely challenging. lost sinner is a short run after the n00b area, black gulch is a short run with pushovers for enemies, and brightstone cove is easy as fuck as long as you bring a torch.
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Is there anyway to increase the attack speed in DaS? Every big weapon has literal garbage attack speed and NCP's seem to completely ignore that.
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It's easy to kill invaders if you just walk backwards and then wait for a 5ft or so gap to emerge, then do one of your heavy attacks that should poise break them. The problem is that most times they DON'T get poise broken and instead follow through with their own ridiculous fucking attack.

There was that one invader with the strange whip-sword thing that pissed me off to no end.
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>>333517143
> Having trouble with smelter demon at all
End yourself man
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>>333520471

I think I may just not have had enough fire resistance, because I'm pretty sure you can become straight up immune to an element with enough defense

Regardless I was still annoyed that I couldn't do it when I first got there
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In what order i play the DLC?
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>>333521359
Release order. Poison > Fire > Ice
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>>333520523
Oh, shit sorry. I dunno what happened to me there.
You still don't need to upgrade anything to get it though. You'll die a couple of times to get the item, but it's doable.

Equip the Dragon's Tooth, it gives extra fire defence and keep downing estus flasks to keep the HP going up. Life gems can help.
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>>333518746
if think that because some people are ok with gangrape
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>>333520684
Only the the bonuses bosses are bad desu

I beat all of them pretty easily minus the fume knight and lmao2kats. They took way more tries
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>>333517825
I felt this way with Fume Knight. I thought it was gonna be a total nightmare, but I killed him after only a few deaths. /v/ talked him up a lot but in the end he was nothing compared to the ass raping that manus was. Though to be fair, after him, I don't think any boss will be that hard.
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I see messages and red and dragon signs but barely any summon signs. Should i change my download region or don't people just put their signs up anymore?
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>>333519165
kek i didn't know he could do that
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>>333519762
Message - kun is right you know
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>>333521576
Summon signs tend to be at the entrance to the boss arena for Smelter. At the very least, you can summon Lucatiel anyway.
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>>333516996
>Iron keep in sotfs
>In a pure dexfag build

Jesus fucking christ that was awful, weaboo knights never stunned and attacked me while being hit with zero fucks given
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>>333520403
>>333520234
>>333519678
>>333519370
>roll into one of the pots holding water
>complete immunity to lava for 60 seconds

You guys are dumb
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>>333521771
It's not just the Iron Keep area, no matter what the boss is i only see NPC summon signs. I also never get summoned myself
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>>333516996
>even MORE Alonne Knights spammed everywhere, bordering close to almost twenty on the way to the first boss
Are you playing SotFS because I'm recently going through that, and I thought they toned the area down a lot compared to regular 2 to the point that I just casually strolled through the whole area.
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>>333521813

I feel your dexfag pain, that overhead slash they do has no more than a few frames of startup for you to react. Also

>can parry just about any weapon smaller than a minivan
>can parry ruin sentinels
>can parry dragonrider
>can parry pursuer
>etc., etc.

>get to shrine of amana
>try parrying archdrake who's einhanding a realistically proportioned weapon
>fail
>whoops, better try again
>fail
>fail
>what the fuck
>fail
>YOU DIED

>look it up
>male archdrakes cannot be parried
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Iron Keep and Heide's Tower were both made way worse in SotFS.
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>>333521764
Yeh I know. But it's not like I looked it up or anything. It just happened and I took advantage of it.
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Is the smelter demon the capra demon of dark souls 2?
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>>333522726

Seeing as it's optional, no

Demon of Song got swole as fuck in some update though, even with whopping 70% equip load armor he was two-shotting me, fucking unreal damage
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>>333522863
Seriously?
I remember the demon of song being a pretty decent boss fight, why make it stronger?
Also I meant more in the way of everyone claiming it to be either super difficult, or not difficult at all.
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>>333522524
Why do you need to parry them? 2 handing any weapon will stunlock them to death. I beat that area 2 handing a scimitar.

People complain about this area having too many enemies but it doesn't matter if the enemies in question are piss easy to kill
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>>333523181

I had been 2handing the entire game up until that point so I decided to use a spear and target shield just for funsies.
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>>333522863
Does armor even do something in this game? I've tried Havels armor and naked and I don't really seem to be able to take any more hits at all.
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>>333523735
Marginally, in terms of physical resistance.
You're better off focusing on HP and elemental resistances than physical if you care about armor. Maybe(?) poise if you use a big weapon, but getting the timing right on those so you don't take hits at all is better.
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>>333523735
You'll only really notice a difference if you have high strength, even then it's minimal. Armor is far more useless in DaS2 than it was in 1.
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>>333523880
Well Poise seems completely broken, I don't think that has ever worked for me. But I've switched to using the joker set for the bonus.

>>333523958
Well I've nearly got 70, since when I started to play I wanted to play as a guy that hits once and the rolls around until I could hit again, but I haven't switched weapon since I found the ultra great sword because I can't find anything that's better.
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>smelter demon
I don't understand how the fuck people actually have difficulty with it. How is that even possible? He literally winds up his swing so fucking much that he might as well light up a massive neon sign that he's about to attack you. In my personal ranking he's literally no harder than Mytha. If anything he's way easier.

Alonne Knights are fucking bullshit though. At least until you realize they have like two attacks and you can just roll through the katana spam to backstab the fuck out of them.
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>>333522337
Are you on worldwide?
Out of SM range?
Softbanned?
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>>333524163
>because I can't find anything that's better.
I'd recommend upgrading one of the clubs because most of the enemies in the game seem to be weak to blunt damage, as well.

Before the 60 FPS fix, I'd roll between the GS, LC, and GC on rotation so that they didn't break.
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>>333518727
>Lazer attack instead
That thing is surprisingly dangerous. The initial palm thrust is a hitbox with knockback, the laser is a hitbox with knockback, and it can GO THROUGH THE WALL. Really easy to get dumpstered into the lava
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>>333523735

Just tested it with endgame (NG) armor, a physical defense of ~800 mitigates damage by more than half
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>>333524282
or you can just block and stunlock them with a mace, straight sword, axe, etc.

I went through that area with a sunsword, mace, and bandit axe on the same build, and would 2-3 shot them after blocking and stunlocking.

I don't get how people have trouble with these guys.
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>>333524394
I recently switched to club after googling for a better STR weapon and it's fucking broken. The only annoying thing is that certain enemies aren't affected by the smash and some enemies gain iframes until they've completely gotten up and some can even start attacking before it wears off.

>>333524496
So to even get +50% reduction I have to get the slowest roll in the game and have end game gear. Why would you ever want that when you can just roll and evade everything?
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>>333524584
I think people are just bad with staying away from archerpleasefuckme zones
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I have finished the cancer hole, but now I don't know where to go. All I found was the snow fortress, but I can't believe that snow king chaos faggot with his legions of knights is some sort of mid game boss. I am still missing like 8 stages and have no idea where to find them.
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>Hear everyone say the DLC is better than the base game
>It's more of the same shit that made DS2 terrible only amplified
At least they're pretty look at from the outside
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>>333525169
How many great souls do you have?
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>>333525205

the dlc is twice as hard as the game.
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>>333525252
Three. I am still missing two bonfires in the Drangleuc castle, but I can't find anywhere to go even after searching for hours in there so I gave up on finding my way. I've got the gate and the middle castle bonfire.
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>>333525512
So you've killed the twin dragonriders then? You need to unlock the elevator which takes you to the key that unlocks the mirror knight door. To do so you need to pull a manakin to one of those soul golems so it can turn the wheel thing (like how you entered the castle). It's somewhere after the twin dragonriders bonfire, you'll find it.

Of the great souls, which did you miss:
>Freya
>Sinner
>Rotten
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>>333525952
Not him, but I've gotten all the great souls but I've got no clue of what area you're talking about.
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>>333525512
The base game is so linear no one has an excuse to get stuck literally git gud
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>>333517560
git gud faggot
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>>333525370
>hard
there's hard and then there's tedious
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>>333516996
Iron Keep, like most zones in 2, is hilariously short and has to be padded with excessive enemies.
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>>333526126
At some point after you climb up the ladder after fighting the twin dragonriders, you'll come across 2 manakins near some chests. If you pull them back into the room you just came from and kill them near the soul golem he'll turn the elevator on which leads you to the mirror knight key.
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>>333524390
Could alt+f4ing the game give me soft bans even if no one is invading? I'm currently lvl 156 and SM is about 4.7 mil.
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>>333525952
I missed Freya and I know which elevator you mean, the one right next to middle castle bonfire, but I have no idea what soul golem you're referring to and yes I killed both dragon riders.

>>333526195
Haha, I had to search for multiple hours to find that small corridor which leads to the scorpion woman boss. It's literally hidden in some corner and I had no clue where to continue. Linear my ass.
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>>333526381
Oh it's the area I just got to, no wounder I didn't know what you were talking about.
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>>333526446
See >>333526381

At some point after climbing the ladder is a room with a bunch of statues like near the first bonfire. Only difference being that they don't come to life. At the back is the soul golem I'm talking about.

Honestly the most unintuitive part of the game. Took me forever to figure out on my own.
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>>333526381
Thanks, man. I would have never guessed this. The fuck is this? Zelda? Riddles out of nowhere.
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I'm terrible at Dark Souls but this was one of my favorite zones and I found it pretty easy.

The invaders were a pain, but it was just a few tries. You can also pretty easily knock them into the lava.

The knights were easy; just let them attack first, block, and kill them with 3 hits (I used Drangleic Sword)

Pulling them takes time, and arrows helped a lot, but it was definitely one of the more doable zones in the game.

I skipped the Smelter Demon after a few tries and returned later; the belfry bonfire was just a few feet away after that.
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>>333526785
You're welcome, anon. Good luck with Mirror Knight. Hopefully you don't get invaded during.
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>>333526796
>get club
>use second attack
>kill in 1 attack
>farm souls like nothing
>wear joker outfit

we be slammin.
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>>333519829
you don't need to. Use a homeward bone or something/
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>>333516996
>once you make it all the way there, the boss (Smelter Demon) is no pushover either, punishing melee players who have the audacity to attack in melee range with unavoidable fire damage without a long-reaching weapon

See now this is where i figured it out. I remember back when i first played the game that Smelter Demon was a tough fucker, but now? Not really. Literally all you have to do is dodge. The fire damage he does when you get close to him is not much, his attacks are easy to predict/learn and if you run FTH just pop a replenish on you and you can hold on and if you still somehow lose to him, you can always summon people/the NPC
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>>333526785

Took me a while to figure that out too.

They obviously intended for the front door of the castle to teach you how it worked but since nobody was paying attention to the golems at that point it didn't work that way
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Are you actually this casual, OP? Even Yahtzee and his gay boyfriend managed to beat it and they can't play for shit.
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>>333517825
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>>333526785
>ESTUS-FLAKON+5
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>>333518490
post the copypasta
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>>333519992
Funnily enough Frozen Elleum loyce was made out of unfinished fifth world of DeS.
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>>333521513
>not beating Fume
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>>333527198
every souls thread ever.
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>>333516996
SoTFS seems like it just added far too many extra enemies. Like even more Persuers around the map.
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>>333527239
Enlighten me on how I am playing the game wrong. No estus upgrades allowed?
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>>333520684
desu summoning seemed completely shit for most of those bosses, your damage got nerfed so severely that it was just better to go solo.
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>>333516996
>playing a spear build
>every invader every
>poke them one or two times
>walk backwards until you have stamina again
>repeat
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>>333520234
did you roll one of the water pots?

If you do that and pop an Elizabeth shroom or two, the healing literally outpaces the fire damage
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>>333527687
I was making a remark on the game's language.
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>>333525205
>vertical, interconnected level design
>neat bossfights

It felt more like Demon's Souls than it did DS2. Enemy spam gets to be a bit much, the the game always gives you management options. Even in that rooms with the 3 fume mobes and the big lava shoulders guy, you could drop exploding barrels on them before you drop in.
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>>333527539
Maybe I wasn't clear but I was saying that that I beat everything solo, just that the 2kats and fume knight took me quite a few tries
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>>333526968
>Hopefully you don't get invaded during.
what
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>>333528361
People can get summoned as phantoms during that fight

One of the coolest things DaS2 did
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>>333528456
>The only cool thing DaS2 did
corrected
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>>333528456
I don't remember that at all when I played through vanilla DaS2. Was that a SotFS addition? My mirror knight just threw NPCs out every now and again.
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>>333517143
You dont thread your own post you dumb nigger
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>>333528586
nah, it's a vanilla das2 thing
it only happens on ng+ or something though i think
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>>333528586
It isn't communicated very well

but if you leave a red soapstone sign outside of the bossroom door, LGK can summon you into the bossfight

>>333528672
it was patched into NG about a couple months after release
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>>333528663
>>333520714
Yeah yeah yeah and OP can't inb4.

Get fucked.
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>>333528750
No, you get fucked.
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>>333521501
having more summons gives the boss more health and it messes with the AI

you dont need more than 1

if you have more than 1 then you're a retard, and you're taking summons from other people
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>>333529067
>you dont need more than 1
but i want more than 1
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>>333528573

Fuck off
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>>333529067
Summons are plentiful as fuck. How are you taking them from others?
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>>333529661
signs are cycled/refreshed every 10 seconds, and there's ten to every one retard summoning 3 phantoms at a time

it shouldnt have to take a five-minute wait for a sign to pop up in the cardinal tower, but it does, because dipshits seem to think they need 3 helpers for the pursuer or the last giant

the wait seems to be even longer in IK because people don't seem to know how to dodge the smelter demon's year-in-the-making telegraphs
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mfw I'm a sorcerer and the npc summon was tanking the smelter while I got an easy kill without being hit once.
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>>333516996
>bordering close to almost twenty on the way to the first boss
>nah that place was easy couldn't be that many
>count it out
>including captains, it's 19.
i guess you were right this time, op
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>>333529067
But what if i like to summon people?
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>>333530807
more power to you, but you're still an asshole
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>>333516996
>long and tedious
Nigga even if you take it slow and wait for the knights to waddle up to you after you enter their agro range it still only takes like 3 mins at most to get to the boss.
Bride bonfire to Smelter is literally
Bride
Room
Stairs
Room
Walkway
Bride
Boss

It's such a tiny area.
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>>333531095
bride?
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>>333531095
are you spelling bridge incorrectly on purpose?

because you did it 3 fucking times
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>>333531550
I honestly have no idea how I fucked up bridge like 4 times.
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>Game can't even play by its own rules
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Faggots literally mad that DKS2 tries to come up with challenges for the player instead of just having ALL PVE be 1v1 circle strafe battles.

Also they quite clearly do not have infinite stamina, their attack patterns are made mimic players so they have player levels of stamina and stamina regen.
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>>333519992
>Play dlc
>this first one on your pic
>7 enemies on 1 bridge
Yea i really like to fight trash that much
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>>333516996
learn to parry alonne faggots
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>>333517825
People who had problems with Smelter Demon are probably people who used Drangleic Shield and never bothered learning how to dodge since they could L1 through the pain
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>>333533181
the dragon comes and roasts them, m8

or are you just having fun
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>>333529067
You can also be helping the summonee out, too. Don't forget that being summoned and fulfilling your task repairs your weapons and refills estus. I think it also undoes hollowing. So you can barely make it to a boss room low on chugs and hollow, put a sign down, win, then you're good to go back in your own world and can even summon if you like.

It's a bit more than a crutch. Plus it's fun.
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>be level 180
>having fun time doing jolly co-op
>starting two days ago literally cannot get summoned anywhere
>internet is fine, co-op on BB still fine
>still cant get summoned in sotfs

wtf is this shit. wtf happened
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>>333534229
What's your soul memory?

Protip: bonfires with the orange border around them when fast traveling are the areas with the most people in your SM range
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